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Love my wolf wife

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>>79679274

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Zen is blowing the mailman

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>>79679284
fuck off

>>79679345
That mailman? Me

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https://twitter.com/valstrax445/status/1807569655873274176

I love Michi so much.

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Damn Heavenly hit Zen with the young lady

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just got done jacking it to vex and fefe i miss my wife.

>>79679450
When you pour love out into the world like this you're truely brighting it a little for everyone. Not just the one you're sending it out towards.

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I just made Froot pee in koikatsu

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ironmouse is sexy

>>79679621
Well? Where is it?

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MMM

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Let's keep the good times rolling, friends!

>>79679709
l..lewd...

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I want to cum inside Zentreya so bad, it's physically painful.

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>>79679709

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>>79679709

Has anyone told Michi there are actual topical anaesthetic sprays she can use if her throat get too sore and not just chinese bat oil?

>>79679709
Sex. More sexy merch please

>>79679709
>Little devil
missed an opportunity to put semen demon

>>79679709
>>79679809
I want to taste the flavor, of you catch my drift.

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Ari on Zen

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>>79679363
seethe

>>79679809
I still wish Mouse would use her demon princess model and talk about this merch drop feels like she's not talked about it much other than tweets.

>>79679709
post the melody bikini one

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>>79679809
>>79679709

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>>79679972

>>79679650
in my mouth

>>79680050
man, I love fat bitches

>>79680050
too much cream cheese on her bagels

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>>79679972

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>>79680109
>>79680050

>>79680050
Where's that fat bitch lovin Froog?

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>>79680126

>>79680137
Rose has a modeling career?

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>>79680137
>>79680050
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX

>>79680137
if you showed me this image a year ago i would not have been interested, however over the past 6 months I have watched a lot of mint castella and now this has my dick on the verge of exploding

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>>79680126

>>79680271
>giri almost wore this
fuck me

>>79680234
welcome to the fat bitches loving club

>>79679709
>>79679809
>>79680050
>>79680126
>>79680137
>>79680271
This is the best merch Vshojo has done in a while to be honest.

>>79680126
>>79679809
>>79679709
Goddammit, Moeflavor where's the credits of the models!

>>79680126
Crazy the effect just a little bit of oil on the skin has to how it looks.

>>79680320
Share pics Onibro

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https://youtu.be/1SYbyRt2994
HAGS in 100 minutes

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>>79680337
Yeah I need the credit of this chick.

>>79680461
Do you not understand what "almost" means?

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>>79680050
>>79680126
>>79680137
>>79680271

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>>79680137
what a great time to be both a vshojo enjoyer AND an ebony bbw enjoyer

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>>79679709
>>79679809
>>79680126
>>79680271
>>79680489

>>79680402
Makes everything pop. There's a reason it's used in most physique photoshoots and on stage in competition.

>>79679709
>>79679809
Ever since Mouse mentioned wearing this merch at home I haven't been able to sleep. Just the idea that we'll never get to see it is depressing af.

>>79680559
>Mouse mentioned wearing this merch at home
Lucky welshman.

>>79679614
Not my intention but nice to hear, I guess.

>>79680559
1m subs goal for subathon

>>79680603
Considering she is just now starting to be able to look at herself in a mirror I highly doubt anyone is getting pics of that. At least not anytime soon.

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>>79680577

>>79680559
BLTs Unleashed

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>>79680137
>>79680050
No matter how bad this world gets, I will always be blessed and at ease by the existence of fat bitches.

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Heavenly is in trouble

>>79680722
Mouse trying to reclaim her property

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>>79680722
he's gonna need to call in for some help with this one

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>>79680722

I wonder if he will become like Quinn after the experiment. ( ￣-￣)

>>79680902
need that ass on my face PRONTO

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I wasn't able to watch Melody's Elden Ring stream, how many bosses has she beaten?

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Reminder, a lot of bitches on Twitter were gushing over buying these. And plenty of them had OF.

>>79680722
Go back to the mines boy!
Your massa is watching!

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I love Sushidog and her yapping

>>79681047
I can't wait

>>79681096
July 10th and August 5th are the estimated ship dates for first and second batches.

>>79681151
I bet Mouse is looking forward to seeing girls and guys posting images

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Nice. If anyone else got a Dino Zen plush it might have shipped.

>>79681220
I want her to commit to asking Monke and Kaho to wear her swimsuits. Kaho would probably do it, Monke is too prudish now to do it unfortunately.

>>79681245
Emmy...

>>79681288
Intentional this time because this anon yesterday made me laugh >>79631802 and I've always been more of a Zen fan anyway

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https://twitter.com/nem0esis/status/1807821474985828486

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>>79681245
>Emmy

>>79680577
This is the different one from the video?

>>79681245
Everyone should order everything under the name Emmy now. We are all Emmy.

>>79681245
The Zen Novel Horizons figure is also shipping and also got several Vshojo store items shipped.

>>79681422
same one, check the tats.

>>79681283
He seemed really bothered by that clip/screenshot thing people were sharing that complied every time the outline of his penis was visible in anything he wore, because obviously. In the past he's gotten over stuff like this, like all the comments about his hairline got to him for a while, but he seems to be ok with it now. Maybe it just needs some time for this to pass too.

>>79681283
kaho absolutely will, she would do it without mouse even asking her to, she just needs to be made aware

>>79681481
She has a thinner waist in the pic. Frickin photoshop

>>79681283
Kaho should buy one or two sizes too small.

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>>79680989
She beat the controller randomly bugging out boss, the learning how to level boss, and the elevator boss.
https://x.com/ProjektMelody/status/1807671147724460058
She's still working on the how to play the game boss though. That one might take a while.

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>>79681422
Yeah, she is not in a video. I assume her images might be edited a good amount because she looks insanely amazing and should be the one in them.
>>79681481
None of the videos show the tatoo'd chick with the tramp stamp, unless I am mistaken?

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>>79680050
>>79680137
The should try hitting a gym

>>79681507
dude got on every hair drug known to man, not like he got over it

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>>79681576
Bust out the wig.

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>>79681652
you shut your mouth, worst froogposter

It’s kinda awkward now

>>79681652
False prophet

>>79681623
I was wrong. I was thinking with my penis.

>>79681652
They should try hitting you

>>79681283
he never even did that second cosplay he has of her, no shot he's going to wear the swimsuit. honestly he's become a lot less fun over time. he plays things too safe now.

>>79681763
His fans sudden obsessions with his penis scared him off of it. Mouse needs to whip him harder for the fun to happen again.

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>>79681747
If I take two steps to the left those fat bitches will die from heart attack trying to catch me
>>79681729
>>79681700
You might hate me but you know I'm right. Fat bitches are the worst.

the dudes into fat bitches are some of the nicest people I know

>>79681652
that mouse model is an example of a naturally curvy/thick lady. I have a couple of friends like this where they're always roughly that shape no matter how little they eat, it's very frustrating for them but they figure out how to look hot as fuck regardless. you just need to grow to appreciate it

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>>79682045
That bitch should figure out a salad.

>>79682045
Anon people who are overweight often hide or lie about how much they eat

>>79682045
>roughly that shape no matter how little they eat,
Not that I care but this is cope. Anyone can lose weight if they just maintain a caloric deficit.

>>79682011
It’s called low confidence and a small penis

>>79682111
no matter how much you try, fat bitch loving froogposter will always be better than you

>>79682129
This. its physically impossible to keep weight on if you intake less calories than you use

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>>79682222
Reality can be harsh and unfriendly. I only harbing the truth.

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>>79682228

>>79682208
you have to be a sociopath if you liken being nice to having low confidence

>>79682333
kek

>>79681623
I know you typed words, but that is one nice image anon.
Very nice

>>79682118
>>79682129
two of them were my roommates and everyone was wfh so I know what they ate (less than me despite me being smaller), but there's no point trying to convince you I guess

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>>79682333
what

>>79681623
I want to cause property damage with her

>>79682118
>>79682129
idk, i used to cook regularly for a family member who is overweight. even though they really didn't eat that much food compared to someone a normal weight they never seemed to lose much weight. granted they weren't exactly working out everyday but they certainly weren't stagnant either.

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>>79682426
were they pisces?
this is super important.

>>79682475
Your family member does not defy the laws of thermodynamics.

>>79682426
>>79682475
ok so they were perpetual motion machines that should be researched to create infinite energy

recommend me some jav bbw or ebony bbw porn

Zen thinks Mel can get as far as the middle of the game in ER. I appreciate Zen's vote of confidence but I'll be happy if Mel can beat Margit.

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I got a notification my Kuro keychain is finally being shipped

>>79682499
That isn't a Pisces trait at all though, if anything it's Aries.

>>79682594
Why is Mel in the emergency room?

>>79682426
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1454084/
>>79682590
MAGURO. Anything under that label is great

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>>79680485
Hell yeah

>>79682609
Yatta!

>>79682339
That’s not exactly what I meant kek, I’m saying dudes that settle for fat bitches is cause they set a low bar them in life cause they have low confidence and take the crumbs that is thrown at them or they have a fat fetish

>>79682716
You are not japanese.

>>79680909
Quinn is a bad influence. Whispering into Kuro's ear that his model is dogwater. We must kill him inshallah

>>79682745
>or they have a fat fetish
it's that one
people into fat bitches are just into fat bitches, nothing complex about it, same as any other fetish

>>79682509
>>79682564
idk what you want man. they literally moved more than me during a day while eating less and yet continued to weight significantly more than me.

Somebody needs to knock down Zen from her high horse and remind her Moonmoon is doing a SL1 run

Do you think Kuro will get mad if I draw Kuro x furry gay porn?

>>79682884
Kuro is a sick, demented pervert.

>>79682594
Same, I'm thinking the mountaintops are the wall

>>79682853
She is very confident in her damage and strategy for someone who took 3 days to beat Malenia and has resorted to using a weapon that needs actual changes to not be so absurdly broken in PvE and PvP. Like does she think 3-shotting bosses is normal or intended on a build with basically no setup or thought?
Some of the bosses are a bit much yeah but her having no health is not helping. If she isnt gonna do a no-hit run while being in 1 shot range all the time she cant blame the bosses for being hard. Health is a resource and she refuses to use it.

>>79682650
damn, im not into BBW, but this is really good.

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>Wake up
>Check the last two threads
Bored much?

>>79682650
>live together
>grocery shop together
>share fridge and pantry
>no one goes out to eat because we're all terminally online
I used to be more skeptical about it but after spending months eating a 2.5lb cheesecake sampler once a week while they were using hellofresh meals and I was the one still losing weight, that was proof enough for me

>>79682818
Sometimes, but I have two friends that settle for fat bitches cause they have low confidence. So yes some people just set a low bar in life and take what they can get. And they both admit they don’t have a fat fetish their just “lonely”

>>79682426
Were you with them 24 hours a day, keeping track of everything? I remember my mom describing being roommates with a chubby girl who wanted help losing weight. See, the chubby girl was eating less than my mom at meals, so she didn't understand why she was so much heavier. So they decided to start tracking everything she ate. Pretty quickly discrepancies started appearing. My mom saw the girl eat a snickers bar earlier in the day, but it wasn't listed. The girl said "Oh it was just a little snack". Well it turns out there were a lot of little snacks when they went over it. It's not so easy to lose weight just by eating a bit less at dinner when you're still eating a candy bar, drinking a soda, and munching on chips throughout the day.

>>79683213
Ok bud. Get them to a university for study, because they may hold the key to the energy crisis.

>>79683214
That really only applies to IRL dating. I can assure you that people into bbw porn are into it because they have a fetish for it. Otherwise they would be watching non-bbw porn if they didn't.

>>79682793
(￣~￣;) uh huh ok...

>>79682884
Can I ask for a kuro art request ;_;

>>79683390
Well if you wanna put it that way then yes…ok I hope you’re happy now

>>79683289
genuinely yes. rooms next to each other, work from home, grocery shopped together because it's fun with friends, no one liked going outside

>>79683213
No matter which way you slice it they had more calories going in than going out

Happy Canada day (whatever the fuck that is) you dang ole canucks

>>79683721
happy canada day my favorite latin americans.

>>79683721
thanks!!! same to all other leafs around

>>79683721
Thanks bro, happy monday to you.

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30 minutes until the new podcast episode

>>79683479
I'm not good enough for that. But i'll be working on Kuro getting railed from behind by a werewolf, and if I'm satisfied with it I'll post it here. <3
Captcha : PVPM8

>>79684030
Ok good luck ( ・∀・)

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zen cute and currently afk
spam amongusgaysex in the chat

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>>79684917
You'll get zentreBanana and you'll like it.

Just woke up. Why are people spending three paragraphs to say 'zen is overconfident about her skill at videogame'? Did we get a catalog raid or something?

zen and mouse need to oil up and get naked

>>79685152
But then we'd just have oily clothes on the floor. I propose they get naked THEN oil up.

>>79685215
mel should be the one to oil them up

I want to draw Myself beating up kuro .-. But then I will just cry

>>79685300
that sounds like a great idea

>>79685105
I'm not sure what set anon off but Zen was talking about video game skills earlier this stream.

>>79685105
I rolled a die and it says mousefags.

>>79685522
unironically correct answer

>>79685522
Is it fair to call it a die still when it's just the same thing on every side?

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PODCAST TIME https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SYbyRt2994

>>79685300
A lot of art is about getting feelings like that out of your head. Expressing things lets you process them in a way that just thinking them can't.

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>watching zen
>I LOVE YOU SO MUCH YOU HAVE TO DIE
wait what huh

>>79685684
Art heist today is getting into the vault for certain.

Geega really overstepped on gta,

>>79685827
don't know what you are trying to say but ok

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>>79685743

>>79685725
Mmm...everytime I have an idea it doesn't go on paper wether it was a good or bad thought

>>79685933
That's cool
Can you do take my fucking kisses?

>>79685990
Even just sketching stuff or outlining a story or whatever really feels like it lets your brain do some kind of processing. It's hard to explain, but I'd compare it to how when you're stuck on something sometimes you just need to go to sleep and when you wake up you have a solution.

Mint says she gives up. She's /out/

>>79685725
expressing anger is the entire reason why metal and punk are a thing in the first place, after all

>>79686096
( ￣-￣)hmm maybe...

geegin
more gta
zen collab

>GTA then collab with Zen and Chilled.
Is the best of both worlds truly possible?

>Zen watching youtube videos to learn how to counter a thrusting shield user
Zen's salt truly knows no bounds kek.

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Surely Geega will not get hooked on GTA and skip the collab, surely

Geega goes to an 'ophthalmologist' who of course discovers that she desperately needs treatement because she doesn't blink often enough. How do they come up with this stuff? It's just openly a scam, but they say it boldly enough and a lot of people fall in line,. I guess.

>>79685300
the absolute STATE of /vsj/ in current year

>>79686888
Good thing this is /vsj+/

Lads, I haven’t watched any chuuba content in nearly 6 months; why do I keep coming back to this god forsaken’ed place?

>>79686808
>ophthalmologist
pretty sure they do stuff like eye sugery and shit, not just simple vision checks
and not blinking enough is a bad thing, as blinking not only prevents your eyes from drying up, it also cleans them of dirt, dead cells and other stuff

>>79686720
she should give in and use one against the final boss, it’s great

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>>79686985
You like gay penis

>>79686969
What even qualifies as a ‘+’ these days? Can I sperg here about Vinny yet?

>>79687047
Only Froot-poster’s gay penis

just jerked off to geega

>>79686985
dramafag

>>79687206
No idea what current drama is. Went cold turkey on everything.

>>79687278
Froot got fucked by Katie

>>79687354
>no homo

Captcha: 0W0S

>>79687354
Hot

I'm geeging out I I I I I'm geeging out

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Going forward they should kick out anyone below 50 hours streamed per month

>>79685811
No heist happening today, omie and sykkuno arent gonna be on

Mint watched Michi's stream

>>79687800
Shut the fuck up, numbermonkey and go back to /#/

>>79687800
Hime has immunity.

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>>79687800
kys

>>79687629
Anon calm down. You're Geeging out too hard.

>>79687800
Mata is safe

Momo update
>Hey all, un sure about tonight's sponsor as Haruka is not feeling well but I 90% can't do it if it's tomorrow or later due to travelling for AX + being busy...
>Chances it's later tonight...
>I'm nervous cause we're recording and I got my period and I gotta pack and

>>79687800
>numbers
(You)

>>79687800
Agreed. Hime needs to be gone she is literally a waste of banner space

>>79687963
Forgot this
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
That's it

>>79687963
Moosebros...

>>79687963
classic.gif

>>79687931
AH FUCK I’M GONNA FUCKING GEEG

>>79687800
Kick out anyone who has more than 4 syllables in their name

>>79687963
>Haruka is not feeling well
When is she ever feeling well? She joined Vshojo and took a permanent debuff.

zen brown nipples

>>79688104
o7 henya, mel, michi and haruka

>>79687963
classic haruka

Mata is the kind of person who actually inputs their birthday when asked...

>>79688310
Once you're over 18, there's literally no reason to lie.

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>>79687963
Feel better soon Haruka

>>79688375
except to actually keep your personal data safe.
I'm 30+ and have never input my real age on any "age verification" site.

>>79687963
Haruka should be dissected and studied when she dies
this bitch is more sick than Mouse lol

>>79687963
So she just doesn't give a fuck about screwing up Mata's streams. What a great coworker.

Why is YT so ass. I resized my screen to move monitors and the CHAT CTD'd

>>79688507
Ok 17 proxy dead drop shopping only anon.

I'm going to marry Zen

Kson will sue Mint for copyright infringement. It's so over.

>>79688536
It's not a little tummy ache. The chat with Michi the other day about her IUD got her curious enough that she started touching and prodding at it and pulling on the string and managed to her herself. So now she has to get it reseated.

>>79687800
Going forward they should kick out anyone who receives less than 50 creampies from me a month

>>79688716
>can't stream, womb hort

>>79688507
Its also faster and more convenient to just be born on january 1st 1911 than to input any actual date

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Who’s next to get a lewd swimsuit?

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I like it. They did a good job.

>>79688914
Zen & Henya for the meme.

>>79688914
HARUKA PLEASE

>>79688914
Froog & Froot

>>79688914
Froot's race queen outfit is the closet

>>79688675
what did she say?

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>>79688914

>>79689179
GMMF
Good Morning Mint Fantomers

All of these vtubers in this video Zen is watching? Yeah, expect a collab coming up.

>>79688375
I can't shake my habit of defaulting to Jan 1 1990.

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>>79688914
Geega

>Fraiki is already a 5k streamer
Gunrun you need to be faster next time

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Mint...

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>>79689663
>isreal
wtf

>>79689670
is /out/

>>79689724
>>79689663
shes on the front page but good for her

>>79689663
this is what happens when you get dicked down by both Froot and KAtie at the same time

>>79689771
Everyone knows that only GunRun can get people on the front page. Fraiki is /in/.

>made an OF account because of Mel and my dick
End me

>>79689840
it should have been me

>>79689724
>>79689663
I like her low voice accent
is it French?

>>79690056
?

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Gunrun
For once, we should listen to Bao
https://x.com/wasabimspj/status/1807693786568626324

>>79690066
well it could've been you if you were a vtuber attending Twitch Con EU 2024

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>>79690075
>is it French?

>>79679284
i dont remember posting this but yes, i do with all my heart.

>>79690112
That seems like such a waste of money.

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>>79690112
>Bao casually walking around AX
>Chatting with friends, looking at booths
>Mouse

>>79690169
pff idk you tell me

>>79683721
You think moose'll stream today?

>>79690205
Progress isn't cheap.

>>79690205
For once, it will give a use to the walking animation she pays in her models kek

>>79687800
You can just say Haruka, its alright anon

>>79690294
true, it required a lof of dead people

>>79690458
I say we sacrifice Mouse.

>>79690500
why waste a sacrifice on something that will happen soon anyways

what even are kuro and hime's "official" colors? like I know mel is purple, mouse is pink, etc.

who do you think will be the first +/ fleshy + that will wear a mel swimsuit or a mouse swimsuit.

hard mode: other than any of the TT boys.

>>79687963
What's this from?

>>79690582
To get the value out of it, obviously.

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>>79690689
The official site has a pale yellow for Hime, and it uses both black and red for Kuro.

>>79690689
Kuro is Red/Black (mainly Red), Hime is Yellow
>>79690727
Mata's discord
She was also supposed to do a sponsor with Moose of MappleStory

>>79690689
Kuro red
Hime yellow

>>79690703
none of the tt boys are wearing those

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>>79690689
If you go by the background colors on the talents page:
Zen - #c66657 Fuzzy Wuzzy Brown
Henya - #bbafd8 Wistful
Geega - #491e2f Cocoa Bean
Kson - #cd6195 Hopbush
Hime - #f9eee1 Linen
Mata - #aa65a0 Bouquet
Mel - #88dbf7 Malibu
Haruka - #b2daad Moss Green
Mouse - #e67698 Deep Blush
Michi - #a84df6 Heliotrope
Apricot - #b0ee76 Sulu
Kuro - #3a383b Ship Gray

Ex-Vshojos
Nyan - #bbafd8 Wistful (they reused it for Henya, I guess)
Silvervale - #ace7fa Sail
Veibae - #f0c9ae Mandys Pink
Nazuna - #6458c2 Fuchsia Blue

>>79690689
If you're doing something with this info then stick to black for Kuro since Zen is already extremely red.

Have any of you nerds considered that maybe Ironmouse is IronSTINKY?
-Post from Ironmouse is possibly a little stinky comity (sorry i called you nerds, I'm sure your swell)

I feel like Michi may need more than three days for her voice to recover. It's better to play it safe than to push it and cause even more damage, it's just going to exacerbate the problem and lead to more/longer breaks in the future. If she takes a week off and can go back to a slightly lighter schedule that would be way better.

>>79690970
She needs to be live as long as possible and not take breaks.

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I just finished drinking my whiskey on a friday night

>>79691089
But it's Monday...

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>>79691089
but it's monday...

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>>79691135
fuck

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>>79691089
Are you okay? Did you mean you finished the whiskey FROM Friday?

>>79691175
Petra is /IN/

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>>79691205
well, I did buy this whiskey back on friday

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imagine an alternate timeline where Froot and Layna spitroasted Nyan with their futa cocks

>>79691500
A timeline where Nyan was 1% gay instead of 1% straight.

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>>79691230
hell yeah

I want a fucking atlas robot with an ipad head.
Make it happen boss man

>>79691557
>ends up in lesbo relationship with Layna and moves to New Zeland

>>79691561
Smashing Petra's skull in with a pickaxe.

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>>79692138
rude and uncalled for
petra is cute and nice

>>79680234
Hell yeah oomfie

>>79692103
Wrong, Layna would come to America. Like she did anyway.

Something BIG is coming for Zen.

Zeb

>>79692236
Petra has literally zero redeeming qualities and brings nothing to the space. She is the dictionary definition of an oxygen thief.

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>>79692443
Giantess org

>>79692463
fuck off tribalfaggot.

>>79692463
why are nijischizos like this

Man why isn't anyone streaming

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>>79692463
This anon takes /in/posting way too seriously

>>79690783
what? Then why tf did they say momo?

>>79692463
she is cute and funny, so you're wrong
also she was reallynice to Froot, so that means she is Mother Theresa

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>>79692641
The thing that surprises me is that random /in/ posting brings out the like one sperg of that person randomly that either searches that name or is lurking /here/

>>79692756
I know it's not mold but ever since someone thought it was I can only see mold when I look at the momo with the pen marks

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whenever i have to resub it always feels strange looking at how long i've been watching these bitches. like christ i've been watching zen for 30 months? 2 years and some extra change? it doesn't even feel that long..

>>79692463
You spelled Mata wrong.

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https://x.com/Hapticmaniac/status/1807514779839349096

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>>79692443
Big Zen.

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imagine being a hateful person but then Froot hugs you and cums inside your ass and you become Nelson Mandela

>>79692756
I'm pretty sure it's the same person who also posts
boreclan *puke* and /mint/ whenever somebody mentions mint

>>79692910
>supposed to be
I mean. I think it is?

stinky live

>>79692910
HOOOOOOOOOLY

Also new thread
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>>79690841
thanks bros
>>79690873
I'm not doing any art or anything, was just curious.

>>79692910
>sonch picture with twitter link
>expect ass
>get ass

the masculine desire of a black woman caliing you a cracker while rifing you so hard you experience the hardest nut in your life