Filian is in deep shit now
Mine
cant wait for nothing to happen
>>79961968sisters salivating. why are they like this
He's a negev fan he has no rights.
The difference is that the dude is Jap and Goodsmile is jap. Every other thing before wont matter but I expect the Goodsmile thing to get canceled
>>79961968
>>79961968Filian is really lost.
>>79961968Does Filian credit Jingo for the model? If so, she's in incredibly deep shit as the USA laws are actually worse than Japan when it comes to actual copyright infringement like this.The companies will likely save themselves by just pulling out but Fillian will be hit full force with a cease and desist on using the model.
>>79961968Actually, that plushie is based of her lil fil model which is made by another artist with the same conditions in their contract about merch KEK
>>79961968What a fucking retard. At some point, you have to decide to not use store bought assets for your brand.
>>79962309maybe that other artist is less gay about these things
>>79962287The license givey you permission to use the model without crediting the author. But the license also requires you to contact the author for permission when it comes to tangible goods
>>79962101it really depends on how pissed the artist is and how much money he has... It can really lead to a terrible lawsuit but it's easier to just reach an agreement over it.
>>79962455I might contact him on a whim and ask if he's okay about it. If he's not the double lawsuit is gonna be pretty fun.
>>79961968Sisters are so ecstatic about this drama lol
>>79962557Don't be such a little tattletale bitch, anon. That's peak woman behavior.
>>79962557well you're trash
>>79961968This doesn't even mention her YouTooz figurine.> flips> gets into legal trouble
>>79962457Welp, she's boned. The only saving grace is that they are not already published so the damages will not be a nuke...given the other merch were authorized.If not, they can ask up to the last cent for every sale in USA. It's gonna be a ride.
>>79962750>>79962776nta but I'm gonna do this >>79962557 as well now just to spite you two. Fuck it would be so funny.
>>79962989yeah? well you're gay
>>79963040That retard Filian is lucky Musk is a giga faggot
Shouldn't have taken those laxatives
>>79962813>flips>lands in a courtroom
>>79963101based elonblox
>>79963101Get X premium faggot.
>>79963101Just sent him an email
>>79962839>given the other merch were authorizedit wasn't
>>79963358*send
>>79963358Good idea
>>79961968they will most likely get to agreementthis is nothing burger unless filian is idiot and tries to not pay up for permament rights
>>79963596>unless filian is idiotUh oh
>>79961968BASEDFree-loading VRChatters need to be taught a lesson in the meaning of intellectual property.
>>79961968Filian is not stupid she talked about it a year ago, she will probably come out with some bad publicity but just that
>>79963714>not stupidLOL LMAO EVEN
Sisters trying to deflect attention from fact that no one showed up to con. Literally nothing there but a wallpaper stand kek.
>>79963596The problem is not even this nendo, but the merch she has sold before. Hopefully for her, the artist won't be coming for all her earned money from the merch.
>>79962989Dont fucking do it you drama faggot.
>>79963700>free-loadingshe paid the 40 bucks for it
>>79961968>Gamersupps cupI haven't seen anyone actually buying this Twitchers drinks, but how are they making money?
>>79964025Getting few suckers is probably good enough to keep their business afloat
>>79963714>Filian is not stupid she talked about it a year agoAnd yet here we are...
>>79963861That doesn't mean you are actually the owner of the intellectual property for it.That's like buying a game on Steam and saying you own the entire franchise now.
>>79964025they keep making vtuber cups so clearly someone is buying it
>>79963890Considering the great work she did with Neuro, I expect Anny to be getting some design work coming her way soon.
>>79963861if I pay $40 can I be Filian in a game of pretend on vrchat?
>>79964168>anny >workThe lazy bitch can't even finish a single neuro model
>>79964125yeah but it's not a game it's a crappy 3d model used for lols. basically the artist is stabbing her in the back
>>79964168dosent anny hate her for cucking vedal from her
>>79961968>flips>pay a legal battle
Facts:>Filian did not talk to the original owner of the model before releasing merch>Claimed she owns it and was directing people to make more merch of the model (she isnt the owner)>She uses 4 different models on stream: The Jindo one which is the main one, "lil fil" 2 models by another artist, and 1 more unrelated to filian as a whole model. All are premade and arent original models, anyone can buy them off booth>She uses 2 models for merch, the Jindo one which we now found out was never contacted about the merch, the lil fil one which we dont know is the same situation>She uses 1 model for a video game, same artist as the lil fil one, also needs permission from the owner to be used in video games>No word from good smile or Filian about it
Grifter lawyerbros.... We lost???
Honestly the artist should just be the bigger person and settle this off court. This is just maliciously wanting to drag Fillian through the mud.
>>79963861>she paid the 40 bucks for itActually. There is no proof of this. Some people are saying she pirated the model which is why she didnt know about the tos
>>79963890>anny already shitting on fillianoof that didn't take long wonder how many of her other "friends" are gonna backstab her like this
>>79964516look at the date
>flips>ends up in legal trouble
>>79964452We don't even know what "this" actually is. The only thing that's certain at the moment is that Jingo messaged both Filian and GS, the rest is all speculation and shitposting.
>>79961968*flips into deep doodoo*
>>79964486PLEASE BE TRUE PLEASE BE TRUE
>>79964221>for lolsFor profit you mean. You think Filian does this shit for free?
>>79964562Also aired the dirty laundry for all to see. If she really was serious about resolving the issue, she wouldn't have cried in public.
>>79961968I wonder more how the asset's creator had never heard of Filian (or was told about it) all this time later until now. You'd also think someone at GSC or something would have checked up on the IP holders to make sure everything was cool as well. Nobody anywhere commented or told them that Filian's using a common asset?
>>79964452>stealing is ok if I like the person doing itNo
Vtubers in general are so self absorbed and only care about getting their next hit of merch or a brand deal, they don’t care who they stomp on to get it.
>>79963890>when a ukrainian prostitute is smarter than you
What's gonna happen is she'll fan the flames and blow this up. Asmongold and Tectone will REACT. Her viewers will 2x. Having exploded in popularity, she settles the matter because she always had the ability to from the start. That is the mindset of the Twitchtuber.
>>79964663That's a bad mindset anon. When someone shits on your lawn you don't owe them discretion. The artist was was only responding in the first place because people were blowing up their inbox
>>79964674According to google trends Filian is basically nonexistent in Japan until last month (no idea what happened then). That artist has probably thousands upon thousands of customers he cant check every single one of them and he just found out about herAnd you dont automatically assume that someone is doing something illegal. I dont think it crossed anyones mind that she was breaking tos when she released this and she most likely lied to good smile how she is the owner. Does that make them look bad too? Yeah, and he can definitely sue them too
As a Holochad, I will have a lot of fun with this twitch drama.
>>79961968>Flips>Gets nendoroid cancelled
>>79964847Convenient how no one apparently decided to contact them until she releases a Nendoroid.
>>79964900This. It's very entertaining.
>>79964957Filian wanted to steal his work so she didn't inform him beforehand
>>79964900This is why JPs are autistic about perms.There will come a day when someone from a small corpo will get nuked or almost nuked for lacking perms and then Idol and PhaseConnect will start asking too.
>>79964957Exactly. This is maliciously planned.
>>79964957>contacting the person you want to steal money from to let them know you will steal from themI... ?....what?
>>79964628>she thinks the model is the reason Filian is popularcope sister lmao>>79964696>muh stealinghilarious people are pretending the assetshitter trying to pull a fast one on a successful brand is somehow an injured party
>>79964900>holochadSure buddy
>makes fun of Dr, Disrespect all week>gets cancelled herselfkek
>>79965068No one's exporting that backwards garbage in regards to streaming games.
>>79965145kek
>>79964900No hololive fan can be a fan of pathetic people online trying to be copyright lawyers to get others in trouble. They were a scourge upon Holo for a whole year and made we lose a lot of streams.I remember the NND fags who would harass every Hololive vtuber, going as far as arguing that despite Rare being okay with Korone playing Banjo, she didn't really have the full go ahead of all the parties involved, which made her not play the game for a long while and almost cry in her Subnautica stream because of the constant stream of people asking if she had perms for that.
>>79964204yes
>>79962101filian will lose a lot of money regardless of what happens, but that will likely be itprobably a settlement for merch already sold and then future royalties paid to the artist for future merch
>>79965110Yeah that is the kind of response I would expect from someone with no reading comprehension.
>>79964957>Convenient MOM I'M NOOOOOOOTICING I COULDN'T HELP BUT NOTICE
>>79965134Phasecucknet ofc
>>79965233Filian deserves shit now and Holo deserved shit then, stop stealing other people's work.it's completely unfair when everyone else has to play by the rules, that others get famous by breaking the rules.
Just fucking pay up. It's about time you purchased the fucking IP.
>>79965233The artist already confirmed that Filian didn't contact her and asked for permission though.
>>79965383She cant buy the IP or the rights to it without the logistical nightmare of having to deal with potentially THOUSANDS of people that also paid for it
>>79964674Filian probably told GSC that she owned the model for god knows what reason, and they wouldn't have any reason to doubt her since she's released merch through other companies and the overwhelming majority of successful indie vtubers own their own models.
>>79964543>does a flip>lands in a lawsuit
pretty sure nothing will happen what happens on twatter stays on twatter most of the time
>>79964957Yeah, a Japanese person finds out when a Japanese company gets involved.
>>79962101you know that because of this, Filian has the opportunity to host the biggest vtuber outfit reveal in history whenever she gets her own model
>>79965427nope, they can use their models as their agreement allows, but any futher models are subject to new rules
>>79965372Nijisanji wasn't overtaken by Holo because Holo played whatever they wanted.
*flips**cracks skull open**Gets sued*
>>79964957No one cares about Filian in Japan. The biggest creator using Rindo model is not even her get your head out of your ass.
>>79965476doubt that, pekomama wins
>>79964957>japanese man notices Japanese company steals his IP to profitWOW YOU DONT SAY
not sure kurosanji fans have any right to talk about copy right violations given they are on record for stealing art :D
Why is no one bringing up that Rindo allows you to use the models for commercial purpose?
>>79965615>its ok for filian to do copyright theft because nijisanji stole some art
>>79964696>you wouldn't download a car
>>79965559i don't even watch holos but pekomama was big enough to get into my faplist.
>>79965656Where's the artist credit on Goodsmile's tweet? Where's the royalties?
I'm gonna laugh when they settle out of court and holobronies get nothing
>>79964221No, she is quite clearly selling official merchandise of it for a profit. There is a big difference
>>79961968two different models, my frienddoesn't absolve here, but the one in the upper left isn't a Jingo model (Rindo) it is "Mint" (the one she used before) from a creator I can't remember now.
>>79965431She's probably as retarded as her fans and thinks she really does own the model.
>>79965810Pay for your shit first Filian.
her nendo is dead, im surprised if they dont take the announcement sign off the AX floor today considering this is such an open and shut case of IP theft in japan
>>79965810how holo is even remotely relevant to this? holy rent free syndrome
>>79961968Nothing big will happen. They reach an agreement, she will give him a percentage and they will regulate stuff for the future. The guy has no interest in sending her to the bottom when he can make money from her.
>>79961968Wads the point of joining Mythic Talent???
Probably this will end with Fillian paying 5 figures in damages and commissioning a new model that is legally distinct and she has the rights to. Might never get a nendo again, or maybe she'll get another super quickly. I really don't know.
>>79965155matter of time
>>79965834If she really is her own manager and all... this might be unironically true.I would prefer this to be settled outside, with both creators getting a bag full of money. Or hey, maybe even commission Jingo to make her a custom model.This could be settled SO quickly. Especially for "the 4th largest vtuber" with an income such as hers.This problem is so easy to get rid of with money.
>>79962839>given the other merch were authorizedThat's the neat part, it wasn't. If it's just the nendo they can strike a deal or something, but the other merch though, oofff that's going to take a long time to process.Either way, unless she's getting a new model, she's a radioactive entity to other companies due to how fucked she's managing her model right now. Also, high chance most high-profile artists with high-quality models have already blacklisted her because of this.
>>79965525Except that was literally what happened, while Nijisanji was making a deal with Sony to be able to play the games, Hololive was pirating and stealing shit left and right. There is no bigger proof than the amount of streams deleted, without those, Hololive wouldn't have been famous.
>>79965897they just help with sponsorships. its not a vtuber org
>>79965263>future royalties paid to the artist for future merchShe'd be absolutely braindead if she still continues to use that model after all these shit. If she hadn't been such a penny pincher she'd have an original model already and wouldn't have been in all this mess in the first place.
>>79964365>>79961968desu cant even tell that plush i supposed to be Filian
>>79961968God dammit I should’ve gotten her gamers cup when I had the chance prolly worth more now lol
>>79965950(you)
>>79965994>inb4 she uses a different booth model and repeats everything
>>79964452What has the artist done so far other than 1 tweet?99% chance their lawyers are talking to each other right now and trying to work things out.
>>79964452>just be the bigger person and let your property be stolenCuck
>>79965882It's a false flagging nijisister. They hate filian.
>>79965940Case in point, her building her whole brand off of a mass distributed model anyone eith a few bucks could own. Why the fuck would she do that and not immediately switch once she eas making money if she wasn't dumb as bricks? It's a nightmare for the exact reasons we're seeing
>>79966088>settle this outside of court>I am retarded and think this means "dropping the case"come one now...
>>79965233>No hololive fan can be a fan of pathetic people online trying to be copyright lawyers to get others in trouble.You're so retarded KEKW
>I sell you a shirt>You host a podcast and gets famous>Well you used my shirt while filming the podcast, so where the fuck is my share? You are stealing from me!
>>79965922Why only 5 figures? He can go for every single penny she got from merch.
>>79964516That's from months ago Retard-Kun
>>79961968Maybe she is, maybe she isn't. She has the rights to stream with the model though, so she's not going away like a lot of these people hope. She'll just do a flip, pay the money to get mama happy again and continue on her way. I think in the past her momma has gotten mad about things and it was just down to miscommunications.
>>79966100spitting facts, I seeIt's the reason neuro-sama got her own model, once the handler noticed she blew up.
>>79961968inb4 Sexpat Mindset's 10 consecutive livestreams about this case
>>79964957>>79965105>>79965357Pay attention everyone this is what a faggot who watches grifters all day looks like
>>79962101yeah nothing is going to happen, thing is with copyright law is that filian is just going to either send him a check and get him to fuck off or she'll just need to prove the artist did fuck all defending his IP in the past and only decided to get mad because he missed out on putting his name on a jp brand deal>>79965556all she needs to do about this is show the artist never gave a shit until now, tldr if you don't defend your IP for long enough, the main user using it gets the rights
>>79966163Comparing apples to oranges
>>79963432How do you know?
>>79966163That model was already famous and popular, thats why Filian hopped onto it. Its because she is a grifterIts more like this>Buy Super mario for the SNES>Make a game with mario on the PC and claim you made mario>Nintendo is supposed to bend over and lose copyright because.... THEY JUST ARE OK!!!
>>79965994She's nit a penny pincher. She spends a shit ton on equipment cause she breaks it constantly being a spaz. I don't know why she was so stubborn about something as vital as a model. Maybe she thought she was hot shit and she'd basically monopolised the Rindo model so it was her's as far as she was concerned?
>>79966206Why out yourself like this? At least falseflag a little harder like you did with Raora.
>>79966267>tldr if you don't defend your IP for long enough, the main user using it gets the rightsNigger, the IP owner is Japanese, IPs dont have squatter's rights in Japan you fucking retard
>>79966167I think they'll split it 2-98 (Industry standard).
>>79966267>she'll just need to prove the artist did fuck all defending his IP in the pastThats trademark law not IP
>>79966285>>79966163Amazing how both sides have no idea what they are saying
>>79961968Isn't this the equivalent of a photographer making a stock photo that got used by someone else who made bank with it, and now they're pissed they didn't get that money even though they released that photo for public use?
>>79966163Am I the only one knowing Rindo was super and still is super famous outside of Filian?
>>79966304NTA but he is correct about the defending IP thing. If a court finds evidence you haven't actively protected your IP, it can become public domain.This is why Nintendo are such assholes.
Is her youtube vod ch fucked too? She making a lotsa money from clips on youtube using someone else copyright kek
>>79966163>I sell you a shirt>you make a vlog with only the shirt visible in the video, while you voice over everything>because the shirt is now the brand of that channel and everybody who knows the channel knows the shirt as "your shirt", you decide to get a company to produce shirts that look like "your shirt">apparently this is not stealingCool! Just gotta know the rules.
>>79966373Only if that stock photo had a giant terms and clauses attached to it where one of the terms was "DO NOT USE THIS FOR MERCH WITHOUT CONTACTING ME"
>>79964957That's because the other merchs weren't using the Rindo model you stupid fuck. You can't even read >>79964365
>>79966062he thinks the jewess who was too cheap to buy her own model will pay for an actual lawyer
>>79966267That's trademark not generalised IP law and you have to show the other party was aware of your usage and knowingly did nothing
>>79966412Show precedence got this.
>>79966390only you vrc-sisters know about itfor the normie outside, this is the filian model
So does this mean we are gonna see Filian panic debut a copyright free model soon?
>>79966390I never claimed that Filian made Rindo famous, I am saying they sold the model, including for commercial use and never went after fanart and merch before, including in Japan.Is that what is behind this autism? People thinking Filian somehow stole Rindo?
>>79965476lmao, good one anon, in gura's prime she pulled 100k for outfit reveals, fillian isn't getting anywhere close to that
>>79966485Is it?
>>79966304no, even in japan your brand has to be defended, it can't be selective and it's why JPs are obsessed with nuking everyone>>79966345it's the same, law stipulates internationally that you can't just pull the rug from under random people unless you make special agreements a judge can look at>>79966461the retard said at the end that he's been bothered about her usage in the past, now all she has to show is the fact that he did fuck all and a judge will "oh so you're just mad NOW"
>>79965922>5 figuresIf he actually sues it could be 6 or even 7 figures.
>>79966509People didn't make merch out of Rindo outside of Fil. And if they did they contacted him apparently.
>>79966437Point to the term.
>>79966519wrong reply?I was talking about the model filian uses being identified as "this is the filian model" by people not familiar with vrc.Your image shows most watched vtubers.
>>79966586
>>79966412You have to enforce once you know about it. This artist just learned about so they're taking action now. The amount of time you flew umder the radar doesn't earn you any points
>>79966373It's the equivalent of a vtuber using a publicly available model that doesn't include commercial licenses then selling merch of that character...
>>79962141She said something bad about St. Floyd. Nows their chance to take that racist bitch down!
>>79962141Women are socialists by nature and are envious of others doing better than them.
>>79966644AAIIIIIIIIIEEEEETELL DOWN
>>79966414No. The model is allowed for streaming. Sorry sister.
>>79961968lmao deserved
>>79966163Hey retardo, your shirt doesn't come with terms and conditions
>>79966710It depends on what corporate use means tbf. Is mythic a corpo?
>>79966644>make a license agreement>even gives easy to understand images with easy to understand text so that zoomers don't need too much brain power>still can't read license terms because adhs is so fucked that they don't even scroll down to the letter QWe (as a society) are so fucked...
>>79965894Exactly. It's messy, but in the end a nothingburger in terms of Filian's larger career.
>>79966572Objectively wrong.
>>79966644kek. Nice to see a retard get BTFO every now and then.
>>79966549I doubt any of the Filian merch has made anything like that much money.
>>79966690Is that why there are redundant threads on /vt/ almost daily, seething at popular female vtubers for simply being popular and having a lot of money to do whatever they want?
>>79966780>And if they did they contacted him apparently.
>>79966757Ask Mythic themselves
So who's gonna be the first if her friends to toss her under the bus when this blows up?
>>79966304But that other Anon is right though.That's the reason why Nintendo is so banhammer happy. Its IP protection. If you don't do anything to protect your IP at all, and then suddenly you cry because WAAH, somebody finally made enough money for me to care, you get called a retard by the courts.
As an aside, Jingo or whatever is a really cool artist. I love their style. Filian should just commission them to do a new model for her.
>>79966542>the retard said at the end that he's been bothered about her usage in the pastWhere does he say that?
I believe the Rindo design is too generic/not original enough to be copyrightable in the first place making this entire controversy meaningless.
>>79965897So they're not going to help her with this case?
>>79962557I've seen Twitter users behaving exactly like you. Total unwarranted crabbing. Guess 4chan isn't any better.
>>79966163Missed the part where you try to make the shirt your branding and you push that every appearance you make has to include the shirt, including toys.
>>79966841But that merch doesn't follow the "rules" either. It doesn't link to the author. It has been for years too. Since Jingo is aware of this vtuber, it is grounds to say they were not enforcing such a rule before.
Imagine using an open-license model without actually bothering to read the fucking license. What a retard Fillian is
>>79966934Maybe the design by itself is not but the fact that all the elements are used in the same exact way could still make a case in court.
>>79962141I'm not a sister, but I'm fucking baffled at how retarded someone has to be to make merch off a design she didn't own the rights for. And then to post stupid shit like this on twitter.
WHERE ARE MY SHEKELS FILIAN?
>>79966934That can be said about pretty much most vtuber models
>>79966962>But that merch doesn't follow the "rules" eitherIt does. The only rule is >contact me>>79966644
>>79964452all he did was 1 tweet saying he doesn't aware of the situation and you said he has to be a bigger person? lolfilian is fully in the wrong here and they aren't in the same company or even know each other so shut the fuck up about what he should do
>>79966934nobody has ever confused Rindo with anything else
>>79966976There's no way she didn't know...
Why didn't Filian get a non copyright infringing model as soon as she started blowing up, is she retarded?
>>79966999Fuck, forgot the picture. And it was a trip too...
>>79961968ironic vtuber grabbing random booth model instead of designing one like the nerds do and monetizing it in in every way possible, how could this have happened
>>79966890That's only if you can demonstrate the IP holder knew about your infringement and still did nothing. It'd be basically impossible to prove in this case since this is a individual artist in another country and not a multinational conglomerate with tons of resources
>>79967016I thought she was based on a nekopara character when I first saw Filian.
>>79967015Learn English before trying to argue.
>>79966934Good thing your opinion is worthless
>>79967071Yes, she is. People seem to assume she's putting on an act but she's unironically retarded and does things without thinking things through which makes her super entertaining.
>>79967006I agree and that's why the big corpos and the smart indies make sure to make their design unmistakably unique.
>>79966962where did you asspull this "rule" from?
>>79966998jingo doesn't own filian's IP, even if he thinks he's entitled to it
>>79967072Uses the iconic Kemono Friends Serval blank stare face and Girl's Frontline Negayev as their CORPORATION logo, and thinks he has the room to claim others are taking his copyright?Go pay Kadokawa, Sunborn and Griffin & Kryuger their share of your work first
>>79965656sure, I can do that for you.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QxPH35idalnqYYCs9zS9DDuTvhNSfnOv/viewnow read it again retard.
>>79967110Which one?
>>79965476>Filian has the opportunity to host the biggest vtuber outfit reveal in history whenever she gets her own modelThe outfit reveal record is ~192k by Gura. I don't think anyone's ever beating that. The twitch scene is too small, and YouTube has culled their numbers too much since then
>>79966976Or like, y'know, not try to make merch of a model you just bought and are aware that anyone can use, she was open about how she's just been using a VR chat model, so somehow it didn't go through her head she had to truly make it "her's" before licensing a nendo?
>>79967229Hopefully he'll be smart and humble enough to try and work out a deal with her instead of going the legal route considering no one would give a shit about him if talented people weren't putting the models to good use.
Can anybody explain to me who would be sueing whom here? Is Rindo sueing Filian directly or will he sue all the companies that did merch runs with Filian?
>>79965810we already got enough retardthe indie scene is burning
>>79967229He owns the model's likeness. He is 100% entitled to products made with the likeness of the model, even if Filian is what made that likeness popular.
>>79967115yeah my english suck, but unlike you I'm not a moron when it's about rights
Didn't she harbor a pedo in her server for months too
>>79967247Man, I remember the good old days when 50k live viewers would've broken the stream.
>>79961968>Flips>Into a lawsuit
>>79967271>boughtYou think she did that?https://youtu.be/bbmYkcsUTXgLiterally the first 10 seconds:>paid zero dollars>using for free
>>79967359Based
>>79961968>flips>gets blacklisted by every Japanese corpo
>>79967315Rindo is the character Jingo made. It's unclear whether Jingo will take legal action immediately or will try to settle for a deal first, but I'm leaning towards the latter. I'm assuming it's more relevant to contact the company since they'd have to follow laws, whereas Fillian could just pretend to be retarded and ignore and delay the whole thing.
>>79967072Pushing into his Negev merch would be a good angle to get revenge if he goes after Filian.
>>79967404lol it just gets worse
>>79967315At the moment noone is suing anyone. But if someone sues Rindo would have the right to sue both. Goodsmile would have the right to sue Fillian if they think they were deceived. Likely no one will sue and they'll resolve it in some way.
>>79967413Edgy
>>79967315He'd most likely sue just her for her cut of the revenue from sales. He could go after the retailers but it gets more complicated since they'd lawyer up and drag it out arguing he should be only suing Filian since they're just middlemen. It's why his best option would be to settle out of court or just work something out in private.
>>79961968Now wait until Pixiv hears about one of the biggest twitch streamers using their platform's publicly available assets for monetization and merch without the ARTISTS permission. It's over for her ever getting a model from a japanese artist, this is a huge slap to the face.
>>79967315At the moment no one is sueing anybody, the artist simply posted a tweet inquiring why this literal who is selling nendos of his own model without even asking for permission
>>79961968i genuinely thought something like "i shouldn't release merch of things i don't own without permission" was not only common basic decency but also... like, common fucking sense that everyone was aware of. how could you even begin to defend this?
>>79967503Suing Goodsmile would be dumb. He can just sent a cease and desist letter to them since they didn't actually make any profit yet.
>>79967503I'll just not assume malice if it can be explained by (filians sheer amount of) stupidity.Everybody would win if they settle outside of court.Filian could show "see? I care!" - defeating the alligationsJingo (and the other creator from the other model) would get money and maybe even some cut of some merchpeople will be more sensitive about licenses in the futurefilian most likely will get a custom model after thiseverybody wins in the end
>>79967404Sorry, obviously I wouldn't watch her, that only makes it more baffling that she didn't think at any point she should contact the artist to truly lock the model as her's. At this point it comes out as more entitled than willfully ignorant.
Her management needs to be punted into the sun
>>79967637because it's greedy as fuck to try and claim ownership over an entire productline that you did nothing to make popular. the model is completely interchangeable with any other
>>79967298If anything, I'm curious about how Filian is gonna respond to this or if she's just gonna pretend Rindo is full of shit.
>>79967404>>79967485>>79967665full disclousure:I don't know if she is saying that in persona (I doubt Filian is like that outside of vtubing), aka. as a joke, or if she is for real.She seems to talk a lot of shit that shouldn't be taken seriously.
>>79967637Because she's been streaming for 3 years and he hasn't said shit until now when suddenly it seemed like big money was involved.
>>79967404No fucking way
>>79967614>Filian>Literal whoShe has more subs than fucking Gura retard
>>79967689uh oh
>>79967346yup, i see this and the first thing i think is "holy shit that's rindo"
hey chatFILIAN DID NOTHING WRONG>starts dancing
>~7k viewers per stream>Gets a ton of sponsorships>Has a lot of subs>Been doing this for yearsI literally don't understand why she didn't get a custom model a long time ago. She most definitely has enough money to get a super high-quality one and a really HQ 3D one.
>>79967229copyrights in many SEA countries are pretty strict, specifically for things like designs
>>79961968This is gonna be settled by giving the artist some hush money and her rebranding by commissioning a clone model by someone else. Nothingburger imo. If she's smart that is.
>>79967752>subsGura is more popular than Filian by a wide margin her reach is global. Fil is only known in America/Europe.
>>79967689>mythic>management
>It's not my model but I'm popular so it's now mine.Is this how the world works?
>>79967752She's a literal who in JP idiot
>>79967756That's a mint.https://booth.pm/en/items/2258111
>>79966439She didn’t have permission to use that model either. Plush confirmed for zero permissions.
>>79967404Flip bros, our response?
>>79967724I think you're just retarded and don't understand how copywrite and ownership works
>>79967823only if you're a white trash stacy.
>>79967756Yep I see this and I think "holy shit that's mint"
>>79967838god damn kek
>>79967809Yeah, I'm sure the goodsmile contract being breached and every japanese artist/company on the planet blacklisting her is just a hecking nothing burger
>>79967404What a silly cunt. I hope he sues the fuck out of her
>>79967797Because streamer brain is antithetical to business and money brain. It's why the smart ones have managers or agents that habdle all of that for them.
>>79967838How do you fuck up like this?
>>79967838Uh...
>>79967838>>79967841Kek, c'mon she's made so much money from vtubing, how hard can it be to pay artists the minimum?
>>79967838Jesus christ it keeps getting worse.
>>79967797Probably laziness, can't be bothered to rebrand after her fanbase associating that model with her.
>>79967583It would be a shame if someone emailed them...
>>79967959Piracy is based!
>>79967838Who the fuck is this? Don't you know that Filian is popular? She doesn't need to listen to some random no name.
>>79967735You can steam with the model. You can't make merch out of it. Not his fault she didn't read the T&Cs of the model she's using
>>79967997only when it's from corpos dummy
>>79966282You literally cannot get merch of a pre-made model that numerous people are using.
>>79967833>>79967881HOLY-
>>79966593That is another Ringo in that image you braindead retard
>>79967756That's mint. Another thing she doesn't have the rights to make merch of
>>79968025Once you stream with it and base your brand on it, you basically own the right.Bet you didn't know. But now you do.
>>79966960lul
>>79968016I know you’re trolling, but still...
>>79961968I'm guessing this Filian vtuber is a Chink.
>>79964696>stealing is ok if I like the person doing ityes.it would be great if the authors just let fillion get away with everything, because she's using the model as intended, also huge clout for the author
>>79967858I think you're retarded and don't understand how there is zero incentive to buy assets from booth if at any point the artist later decides they want to milk any commercial success you might experience
>>79967997It's not even piracy, though. It's more like the people who sell band t-shirts they made themselves out of the trunk of their car in the parking lot of a concert.
>>79967838So it's either retardation or she genuinely thought this wouldn't bite her in the ass.
>>79967892>goodsmile contract being breachedCan be settled by reaching an agreement with the artist>every japanese artist/company on the planet blacklisting herEven if that happens, won't be of much concern to her. She's independent and can easily work with western artists for the rest of her career. Her zoomer fans won't care and her twitch whore friends won't either.
>>79968103Nice I didn't know I can stream using one of ironmouses 20 models and now I own her brandThanks!!
>>79968092>Ringo...legit where?I can't see and Rindo in that image.
>>79967838OH NONONONO
How did GSC fuck up so bad? I thought JP corpos were super anal about IP rights
>>79968159did ironmouse sell it to you for $40 and then wait for you to get popular?
>>79968103This has to be a joke right? No one can be this dumb
>>79968143There's no way he's letting it slide. He specifically has the merch sales clause because he knows all the other streamer activities just make the model more popular and he can cash in by letting the streamer do all the marketing when they eventually sell merch.
>>79968209>What is a lease, Alex
>>79968146not the anon, but the incentive is it's insanely cheap for a functional 3D model. really good if you're just starting Vtuber or using it just for fun.
>>79967881True, and this is Coldsteel the Hedgeheg and not Sonic. Even Coldsteel is more derivative than her
>>79968233the trap is sprung. tough luck indies, should have read the fine print>"artists" will defend this
>>79967881>>79967833>>79967756The fact that I didn't realize this was a different character is proof of >>79966934 She will probably come to an agreement with the artist but if this did go to court Filian would win.
>>79968103This might fly in a third world country like the US but not in grorious nippon
>>79968126Worse, an American.
>>79968146Yes anon, it's called a rug pull. It's one of the easiest ways to get rich.
>>79966293...what is the "falseflag" about that anons post?
>>79968226>>79968287>4chan>now needs a /s at the end of a clearly sarcastic post>otherwise brainrotten /vt/ doesn't understandI hate you niggers
>>79968249you have to pay for it AND there's a mn embedded clause for the creator to steal your revenue. that's a horrible predatory deal
>>79968280>I am stupid therefore I am rightshe would lose horribly in court. that's why everybody is dunking on her right now
>>79967838>she's gonna get double sued now
>>79968280>Filian would winLmao. I hope you are trolling just hope both of them don't take her to court over this shit.
>>79967237that's his personal twitter profile image you stupid fuck, not a brand logo.
>>79968163In between Lauren Iroas and Ironmouse.
>>79968207Would you doublecheck if Nintendo own Zelda's IP before making a Nendo?Would you doublecheck if Intelligent Systems own Fire Emblem's IP before making a Nendo?Would you doublecheck if Activision-Blizzard own Diablo's IP before making a Nendo?Would you doublecheck if Hololive own Fubuki's IP before making a Nendo?It's pretty safe to assume that a vtuber owns the IP to their model and GSC, as well as anyone who's ever worked with Filian, is adding extra procedures now, because they never assumed anyone would be that stupid.
>>79967838She's cooked
>>79967404i want to put the penut butter onter her ass hair tail, then i want to harvest the resulting infection. i want dat succ
>>79968207I'm convinced everybody just took Filians word for it because of how popular she is.
>>79968280>your honor>as you can see I am retarded>therefore there can't be grounds for legal action
>>79967838racing game bros... it's over
>>79967735streaming with it was never disallowed you fucking retard.
>>79967838Wait this is a real tweet https://x.com/komado_booth/status/1809231410429042794SHE IS SO FUCKED
>>79967752why did you lie about something that can be easily checked
>>79967724>you can't claim ownership of something you made, because it isn't popularwhat the hell lol is this a falseflag to make filianfags look retarded or am i just missing a joke
>>79968399>there is a rindo>what where?>there!>*points at mint*I mean, at least you somewhat prove my point that normies see "model that was used by filian" and see it as "the model filian uses".You have now heard that "we" (people in the know) call it "Rindo" so you mislabel "Mint" as "Rindo" because you falsy/correctly identified it as "this is the model filian uses".
>>79968447sure, who's to say that our enterprising artist couldn't have claimed that sponsorships constitute "commercial use"? according to your logic, ANY income she makes is subject to the model creator's right to claim any or all of it
>>79968365predatory??? they told you outright what's allowed or not allowed, most of the users don't even use it for profit.Yes, Vtuber shouldn't use it. and that's why most Vtuber have their own model. filian is a retard, it's ALL her fault.
>>79962141Why sisters would hate her?She is not hololive or a lolituber, chudtuber or Pippa
>>79967735Pretty sure if it was just streaming and not the marketed plushies, figures, gamersupps cups, and the fucking racing game appearance, this wouldn't be as big of a problem as it is now.
>>79968400All those you losted no one double checks because they set the precedence for years that they will go after people legally and even have them jailed for infringing copyright (botters). Not defending her but your argument is retarded.
Why can't these ungrateful artists be happy that people make their work popular? How dare he go after Filian. Without Filian no one would know who he is and the model would be left collecting dust because no one uses it.
>>79968540>someone should be able to steal all revenue from someone else because they used an avatar they paid $40 for and were told they could stream withpants on head retarded
>>79962202Is that a reference to a negro who kill himself doing that?
>>79968420>>79968384>>79968374>no argument
>>79967239I'm surprised they're even that lenient when it comes to digital goods and software, she would've been allowed to just make bank by selling this borrowed likeness and it onry became an issue because nendos are physical
>>79968578>um sweaty it's your fault you bought the scam>simps for the scammeryeah you just hate filian
>>79968670>If Entity A has more money than Entity B the law should protect themUnironically Cyberpunk pilled
>>79968627I'm not even against the artist and think Filian is obviously in the wrong but also think the way this artist is doing things is a dick move only motivated by money.
lol lmao
>>79968400>Filian, is adding extra procedures now, because they never assumed anyone would be that stupid.Fillian is one of those people that are responsible for the bleach having "Dont drink" on it...
>>79968712you just quoted 2 arguments, presented in a humorous fashion to make a point.
>>79968712Both of the designs are a copy. She breached both of their guidelines. Doesn't even need a court case they could just walk show the evidence and take all Filian's belongings on the spot.
>>79968722>buy a game>wow this character so cool, I'm gonna make a merch out of this>get sued>call it scamsure
>>79968274she's using a sexo model. typical woman tactic using a moodle to get attention and it works, i just want results
>>79968775>the way this artist is doing things is a dick moveThey tweeted so that people would stop DMing them. All they've really said is that they've contacted GSC and Filian about it.
>>79968811but he did not understand the point, so no point exists
>>79968670>because they used an avatar they paid $40 foruh oh >>79967841 where's the goalpost moving to now, anon?
>>79968775>Everyone knows about GSC>Artist doesn't even get notified that his model is getting something from GSC>That fucking artist is so greedy. Why does he care that he was not notified when this big corpo decided to make a product off his work?
>scamscamscamscamscam>unable to read a line that says you have to ask for permission for merchandizing prospectsOh god, it’s like watching the leper colony attempt to prove they’re not afflicted to some soldiers
>>79968870>They tweeted so that people would stop DMing themOh you poor naive child
>>79968813The designs are not original enough to be copyrightable characters, thus their guidelines don't matter.
>>79968787Yeah, you can use the model for free. It's on a bunch of avatar worlds. Dunno why people keep mentioning Booth for it.
>>79968874that the character is generic doesn't suddenly absolve her of plagiarism. it would be trivially easy to demonstrate how filian's model is a literal recolor.
>>79968938Squatter mentality.
I can't believe anybody would be against the artist when a big company is making a mass produced figure based on their work and they aren't getting a cent
>>79969002All the elements are used in the exact same way. They absolutely are. It's not just >sailor uniform and hair accessoriesIt's the combo of all of those together in the same exact spots.
>>79969002The voices in your head are not a valid source
>>79969002>not original enoughplease don't assume other people are art illiterated as you are.
>>79969079Her fans are scrambling to defend her kek
>>79968636Exposure doesn't put food on the plate
>>79969079filianfags running damage control (or just anons taking the piss for fun)
>Low view vtuber steals, traces, copies, etc other people's work>People instantly shit on them>Popular vtuber does the same>Well, actually...KEK. The power of popularity.
I'm just wondering, if your model being a knock off of a knock off is not enough to save you from the artist chasing you down, what happens with Neuro?
>>79969002True, i own this character btw. Corpo please don't sue
>>79969030>plagiarismThis isn't a question of plagiarism. Filian has always been open about the fact that she didn't create the model. The character not being original absolves her of copyright infringement.
>>79969245Aki! My Beloved
>>79969234There couldn't be any merch of neuro being sold because its owned by vtstudio even if its a "free" model. Thats why Vedal commissioned a new model for her
>>79969245Oops meant for >>79969003
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/crx9Xmvue6IThoughts??
>>79969245ign? wanna makeout in rindo models?
>>79969247>The character not being original absolves her of copyright infringementBut the character is original
>>79969245Cover isn't a black company. Make some merch and they will happily let you sell them.
>>79969354It's not, it's a generic catgirl.
>>79969307>>79969245Not what I'm saying, anon. I'm saying that people keep mentioning that she bought the model off booth. I'm saying she didn't even do THAT. The original creator has had no money from her. She's even more of a jew than the people in here are saying.>>79969373Not if you're a corporation they won't let you. I assure you Taco Bell had to pay a pretty penny for Gura's likeness in their commercial.
>>79969373Yes, because it's literally in their guidelines you retard. The opposite is true for the Rindo model. Are you starting to understand how this works?
>>79969245Aki!
>>79969313>2 layers of gray areaOne layer of grey area being... they legally bought the model and are allowed to legally use it...This kind of implies she at least FEELS that nobody but her should profit of this model, because it is HER model.Just my assumption tho.
>>79969245Aki, stop shitposting and focus on streaming.
>>79969339Take me to dinner first. And a Quest 3 for a gift
>>79969434Your opinion about how unique it is has no bearing on whether or not the character is original legally speaking.
>>79969373Cover has guidelines, anon. So does Jingo. Filian didn't follow Jingo's guidelines, are you following now or are these words still too complicated for you?
>>79969503You're right, my opinion doesn't matter, but neither does yours. A court would have to decide.
>>79969567Guidelines don't matter if you're popular enough. Is that too complicated for you?
The dreaded reader context. The fact GSC has not taken it down must mean the have something cooking right?
>>79969636What?
>>79969583I haven't given any opinions. Filian's model is quite literally a recolor of Rindo. That's not up to debate, and a simple recolor does not make something legally distinct, thus that's still Rindo and selling merch of it without Jingo's consent is grounds for a lawsuit.
>>79969636then filain is not popular enough because she's about to get fucked by copyright law. lol
>>79969675No clue, since it’s GS.
>>79969636Oops, you're right. I don't know how I missed that.......
>>79965994>>79966289She's not penny pincher, she was scared that people wouldn't like a new original model.Just a coward, Zen took some heat after going to dragon and from the dragon to the cyborg too, but Filian shouldn't be scared of her own fanbase.
>>79969498only if fbt ready,regardless nice to meet chuuba lovers. Add Bob~
>>79966412Stop spreading misinfo, they are just assholes.>Petrella v. Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Inc.>It is hardly incumbent on copyright owners, however, to challenge each and every actionable infringement. And there is nothing untoward about waiting to see whether an infringer’s exploitation undercuts the value of the copyrighted work, has no effect on the original work, or even complements it. Fan sites prompted by a book or film, for example, may benefit the copyright owner. See Wu, Tolerated Use, 31 Colum. J. L. & Arts 617, 619–620 (2008).
>>79969728>I haven't given any opinions Ok, what is your opinion then? >Filian's model is quite literally a recolor of Rindo. That's not up to debate, and a simple recolor does not make something legally distinct I agree completely. However, if the character you are recoloring isn't copyrighted, then it doesn't matter if it's legally distinct, it still wouldn't be copyright infringement.>thus that's still Rindo and selling merch of it without Jingo's consent is grounds for a lawsuit. And then a court would decide if the design of Rindo is original enough to be copyrighted.
>Here with the indies, we love small creators and defend their intellectual rights>You won't get your model stolen by a mean corpo, you own it all! Come! Be an indie!>*Steals a small creators model*>*Vehemently defends the thief because they're popular*lol
>>79970019Just another day in the /lig/ger den of madness
*flips**ruins vtubing for indies even more*As if indies werent already getting fucked hard enough already getting ghosted by artists and whatnot and them refusing to work with indies (because of cases like this)Fuck this grifter. Hope she goes homeless
>>79969872>but Filian shouldn't be scared of her own fanbase.not that Fillian isn't retarded, but I don't think comparing her with Zen is fair in terms of fanbases. Zen built her viewerbase off being entertaining despite TTS, while Fillian mainly appeals to zoomers with supreme brainrot who are a fickle bunch. She probably rightfully fears her own fanbase since while logically enough wouldn't leave over a model change, but her brain might still try to kick her in the dick if any numbers go down.
>>79969636Fuck man I wish I could live in fantasy land like this anon. I bet having an empty head is so awesome. You can say the most retarded shit and still think you're correct.
>>79970016>However, if the character you are recoloring isn't copyrightedSomething is copyrighted literally the instant you make something original.
>>79970114Calm down cover employee, her channel will still be in the ranking.
>>79970335>And then a court would decide if the design of Rindo is original enough to be copyrighted.
>>79970019It's only bad if a corpo does it.
>>79966890>>79966267>If you don't do anything to protect your IP at all, and then suddenly you cry because WAAH, somebody finally made enough money for me to care, you get called a retard by the courts.That's specific to trademark and only trademark. Rindo is not Jingo's trademark, it's his copyright. With trademarks if you don't protect it it can be made generic and the courts may decide your trademark has become generic enough to become void. That's what happened to products like Thermos, Velcro etc. Copyright is a different type of IP and they don't lapse in that same way. You can only lose it if you transfer your ownership of it or it expires.
>>79969177I like watching her and even I can agree she's a fucking retard for not getting the model copyright shit sorted after all this time.
>>79969567Guidelines especially become important when you are popular, no one cares that your are making pocket change as a nobody.
>>79969675They're trying to figure out what is going on right now, give them a few days for a proper response.
>>79969442>I'm saying she didn't even do THATFucking impressive
>>79964232It's wooter under the bridge. I'm keeping her budy in bed her now
someone tell Rindo about this merch drop as well kek https://filian.co/
>>79970369>fox ears>yellow bells under those ears>hair bands forming an X over her bangs>two long hair strands pointing inwards>two ahegaos>sailor outfit with turtleneck shirt underneathdone, more than enough design traits combined to make it legally unique as a whole.
People are giving her too much leniency by just attributing this situation to her being stupid, but she's an entitled brat.She constantly has this no fucks given attitude on stream and that's fine for content, but that clearly extends to behind the scenes. She'll probably spit on the artists face if she ends up with a deal in her favor.
Oh shit are we doing this again?
>>79961968She should naked dogeza to apologize
>>79971052Missing the forest for the trees
>>79970723They did it already.
>>79971157The difference is she isn't popular so she doesn't get a pass. I don't make the rules
>>79971096nah she's just retarded, she likes to portray herself as a genius for starting literally from nothing but it was always at the expense of others, even the model is not completely hers. She sits on a mountain of money and doesn't know what to do with it.
>>79966267>all she needs to do about this is show the artist never gave a shit until now, tldr if you don't defend your IP for long enough, the main user using it gets the rightsFucking kek you retard, it has never ever worked like this.
>>79971052Your opinion about how unique it is has no bearing on whether or not the character is original legally speaking
>>79971157difference being Fillian's using a model that someone else owns the rights to, to make money with merchandise
>>79971157Even that bitch has a better legal case than Filian
>>79971339nta but it has in VERY limited circumstances. Obviously this isn't one of them, but if she does actually try to fight this (retarded idea) that'd be about as good an argument she's going to be able to make.
>>79971161am i? rindo's design is unique based on the combination of the elements that make it, filian has no rights over it just because she recolored it.>>79971380you're confusing me for someone else. also what i said is objectively correct.
>>79971157Thats not what this is at all
>>79971157That can fall under plagiarism but at the very least they made an actual effort into making a different design instead of a literal recolor that they later sell merch of
>>79971380Why are you reusing my phrase to apply it to something completely unrelated lol, that anon didn't give any opinions, all that literally makes it legally original and thus protected by copyright.
>>79961968Should've bought the rights for this model then. Pretty sure that she's got the money for it.
>>79971653>>79971759>more than enough design traits combined to make it legally unique as a whole This is just your opinion until a court makes a decision.
>>79966163>Well you used my shirt while filming the podcast, so where the fuck is my share? You are stealing from me!Only if you sell copies of the shirt I gave you then it would be a problem. Me selling you a shirt means you have the rights to use the shirt. It doesn't mean you can make copies of it and sell them.
>>79971940She should have just done what Vedal did and commissioned someone for a copyright free model.
>>79970367Flipfags, the only reason your oshi's on the chart is because we'd like to make use of that VTuber awards she gave to our talents for no apparent reason to our advantage.Otherwise, your oshi is as irrelevant as many other indies we didn't list, so irrelevant that Kobo doesn't even remember she got the award. We can drop you off the list no problem.
>>79971958Well good luck beating that with your "uhh the design is just a catgirl so filian dindu nuffin"
>>79972047she's not smart
>>79971618So I can ignore all written agreements because I can claim the artist didn't try to protect his work?Artists now have to play defense?>Find a model>This isn't mine but I'm going to use it>The written statements for the model mean nothing and are not there to defend the IP>If the artist doesn't actively go after people then that means I own it nowArtists need to be like disney and nintendo now it seems
>>79968397It is also the logo of their booth.https://jingo1016.booth.pm/Did they ask for permission before using these characters and memes as the face of their business?
>>79963861nah she's straight up said she got the model for free
>>79972175Thanks to people like Filian. They will be
>>79972240that probably means someone else paid for it, she's a parasite.
>>79972086Ok
>>79971421>>79971683>>79971706You're not wrong, but do follow the conversation anonkun.
>>79969636>Guidelines don't matter if you're popular enough. Is that too complicated for you?The president raping children is actually ok, since those babies were not popular anyways.
>>79971157Not the case at all, Fillian bought the rights to use a 3D model in an internet site, that allow her to use it for VRChat and other games, without the intention of making money.She built a character around that 3D model that she doesn't own and, without consent from the artist, she is using the design to get a monetary gain.It's like when you buy a movie, it doesn't mean that you can use it to make money and release merch related to that movie.
>>79971940Why do dumbasses keep saying thisYeah, just screw over the thousands of other people who bought the modelNow you're giving other people besides the artist, Filian, and GoodSmile something to worry about out of nowhere
>>79972439Nigga you started the conversation, this isn't a case of plagiarism just copyright infringement
>>79972186Maybe he is fucked then, but who cares. What matters here is that Filian is a bitch and will lose all her money
>>79966711>Falseflagging while using LUMI of all fucking peopleeverybody knows you're a Sister larping as a Phasenigger, you're not doing a very good job of it.
>>79972476Yeah it's retarded. I think the easiest solution would've been to commission the artist to make an original design specifically for you
>>79972525I'm not giving that chucklefuck a (you) for having a retarded argument>Well it's different than ringo model so it's fillian original and safe from copyright
>>79972451According to the supreme court, yes. He can fuck a kid and it's not something he can be sentenced for.
>>79972637Only if he was acting in an official capacity while raping them.
>>79964486Oh, she is royalty fucked then, any decent lawyer will ask the proof of her buying the 3D model from the booth and the tos, which should be the purchase confirmation and move from there. If she doesn't have that, then she is in deep shit, and if she does have the purchase confirmation, then she will still have to pay for not respecting the tos
>>79971940Maybe she does now, she certainly didn't when she started vtubing. When she started using the model she didn't even know what vtubing was. There's no way she expected she would be this popular where people would even buy merch she sold.
>>79968397It's actually his personal pixiv pfp, you make a Booth account by linking to your Pixiv, so it will always automatically use whatever your pixiv pfp is.Either way, not a "logo". And even if it was, you'd have to prove that you need to "ask permission" to use this fanart of that character or to edit that screenshot of Serval or that you're not allowed to use that particular edit as your profile picture on Pixiv or that profile pictures on Booth are considered to be "brand logos" legally. Not everything has terms of "ask for permission", after all, that's something the owner would have to clearly define otherwise how would anyone be reasonably expected to know?
This artist is already so fucking rich from sales increasing 5x since Filian became popular. Just last year theyr reported a record of popularity, while every previous year since release bad been downward.No wonder he has a Jew as his avatar, greedy as fuck and miopic. Filian will get a new avatar and he will lose a source of popularity.
>>79972175As I said, very limited circumstances usually hinging more on other shit rather than JUST "They didn't sue me fast enough". Typically stuff to do with motivations of the plaintiff, it doesn't really apply here at all. She doesn't really have a leg to stand on here.
>>79972822If something doesn't have the terms, the default is that you can't use it.
It really just is a prerequisite to open warosu hust to read /baubau/ huh
>>79972869IMO he can earn a lot more money shaking Filian down for one big sum than that model is likely to make over it's lifetime.
>>79972869i know you're trolling but i have to wonder what compells people to genuinely make the retarded "he so greedy 4 asking for money after being stolen!!" argument. yeah no shit, everyone with common sense would want the person that is making money off of you without you seeing a dime to get punished for it or pay you back.
>>79973050Wrong thread lol? But I do agree with what you wrote.
>>79972685I seriously doubt this ever sees a courtroom. They'll settle something out of court. It's not in the artists interest to take this to court. It will get settled and figured out of court. Especially now that a huge JP corporation is involved.
>>79972990Forgot to also mention, even if it were infringing copyright, you'd also have to consider that the original creator wouldn't just not do anything about it because they're fine with how it's being used in that particular instance. Like how every fanartist ever doesn't hound everyone who's ever used their fanart as a personal twitter profile picture without crediting them.
>>79973087Trying to use the retarded Japanese corpo concept of stealing doesn't work when he would also be considered a thief by that own rule.
>>79972869Such a dick move to do this just after she got big.
