Retro Edition>What is /lig/?/lig/ is a thread for viewers to find, share, and discuss indie vtubers who have on average 500 viewers or more.>Why /lig/?Large indie vtubers have more net fans, but they are outnumbered by 2views by the thousands. This is a thread for the VIP, regardless of what language they stream on.>Can I shill my 499view oshi here?Considering averages fluctuate widely, all the way down to 100 is reasonable. The minimal requirement however is being Twitch partner or the YouTube equivalent in numbers.Numbers for 7/4:1: https://twitch.tv/vedal987 (6,982)2: https://twitch.tv/sakurah (5,458)3: https://twitch.tv/vei (4,802)4: https://twitch.tv/Silvervale (4,273)5: https://twitch.tv/Shylily (3,772)6: https://twitch.tv/Sweetily (3,061) *Tie7: https://twitch.tv/snuffy (2,826)8: https://twitch.tv/nymphelia (2,595)9: https://twitch.tv/chibidoki (2,500)10: https://twitch.tv/Kenji (2,425)Non-English:1: https://twitch.tv/akamikarubi (7,051) *Japanese2: https://twitch.tv/soraposhich (3,897) *Japanese3: https://twitch.tv/KSPKSP (2,591) *Chinese>Wait isn't that one a corpo?A corpo that doesn't own talents IPs and has, at most, a single member with greater than 1000 CCV is still allowed to be discussed here until it has surpassed this threshold.>/lig/ Numbershttps://lignumbers.neocities.org/>Twitch Clips Guidehttps://pastelink.net/34vd5>VOD Archival Guidehttps://rentry.org/Vod_Archival_Guide>/lig/ VOD Archivehttps://rentry.org/Indie_Vod_Archives_lig>Koikatsu cards (SEEEEEEEEEX)https://mega.nz/folder/JYtkXJwL#07gAQCQqI_9FsmX9oQJKSA>Tiermakerhttps://tiermaker.com/create/-lig--16586688-3>/lig/ Chuuba Birthday Calendar (WIP)https://www.canva.com/design/DAE-XgWodVg/ofLz4QC1yPPQ4T6TTAE0fw/edit?utm_content=DAE-XgWodVg>Upcoming BirthdaysJuly 8th - Lumituber & Marimari_enJuly 20th - Callie CalicoJuly 23rd - FallenshadowJuly 24th - Yuniiho & Shxtou>OC material for the OPhttps://mega.nz/folder/IIVD1IaJ#cfsRhWdJvzneIoG8HZUPuw>Ducks(embed) https://www.twitch.tv/dashducks (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)Other useful threads:>>>/vt//wvt/>>>/vt//corpo/>>>/vt//uoh/>>>/vt//hag/>>>/vt//indie/>>>/vt//vrt/>>>/vt//vsj+/>>>/vt//swarm/Previous Thread: >>79963406
>>79973185i like minto :)
I love my cute, horny and bratty sex fox. I LOVE HER SO MUCH! Erm!
https://www.twitch.tv/silvervaleLove my wolf wifeShe's live playing chained together with Mira!
i like flat chestsnino has a flat chesti like nino
sex. sex with vtubers. sex.
I'm a cuck
Do you guys still watch Saru?
you need the eyeballs the outline of the eyeballs and the pupils
>>79973278SEKUSU!!!!!! SEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXX
just fucked your oshishe was mid
I'm autistic?
Good afternoon lig I blub my oshi very very very VERY much!
>>79973185Can someone tell me more about this Mint girl?Is she cute? Is she funny? Whore status?
>>79973351i know, she fucks horses normally so im actually quite happy she chose a human male this time aroundyou are a human male right
>>79973351send pic
>>79973319Saruei ? She is French and I’m French so yes.
>>79973274I want to fuck Silver's tits>>79973319I jerk off to her R18 animations
2 hour sleep sweaty as hell playing tetris listening to some swedish woman talk about the dogshit indie horror slop she will be playing today i see god
Reminder if you aren't using diapers to stream you're wasting time!
>>79973185
mari met shondo, cute.
shontoes
>>79973427
I own lilyhopkins now sorry anon
>>79973319Sure but I don't like elden ring so not this time.
>>79973479OOOOOOOH IM COOOOOMING
>>79973277flat chests are delicious
>>79973351If they were good at fucking they wouldn't be chuubas
>>79973511how much did she cost?
Die liggerman die
>>79973369i want to smell her butt
wow... even anny is smarter than filian, lol.
>>79973319She's my oshi, why would I not?
>>79973351Can I clean up after you?
>>79973474what
>>79973319Of course
My Oshi (that is cuter than yours) is playing Elden Ring, support her, she's a pure angel!https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
any yappers online? I'm reading a chinese 2k chapters sloppa cultivation novel and would like some bg noise
>>79973617German is such an ugly language
>>79973319Obviously, why wouldn't I?
snowbunny liggers?
>>79973757möge dich der blitz beim scheißen treffen
>>79973732>ERNo thank you.
Shondo like most Anglo females has been spending her time on this "work trip" getting plowed by African-American cock.
>>79973130He really tries hard to get a British VTuber gf, doesn't he?
>>79973721Fanguu twitter last night posted buncha their phones, Mari is there with Oli and Shondo.
>>79973755inis is rambling rn
>>79973721
>>79973870Most anglo females are on this work trip?
>>79973873cheaper than paying import fees
>>79973898whenever vtubers do that stupid phone thing there's always someone no one's ever heard of who somehow managed to worm their way in
>>79973873how did he fuck it up with camilla? I thought they were really close
>>79973448Miss Peggy is a cute and rare ligger
>>79973659wdym?
>>79973873He probably has one already, he has a dog barking in some of his streams and i don't see vedal being a dog person
What game is Vesper gonna play tomorrow when she streams?
Shondophrenics, we're saved! Olivia has confirmed that they just spent all night talking at home! We're almost out of the woods!
>>79973474Yeah they both "met" a row of big black cocks too.
>>79973972thats why i didnt mention whoever that other one was, i had no idea who the fuck it was lol.
>>79973947ok that confirms they specifically went for black guys, red heads dont fuck white guys nowadays
>>79973972they're called friendsforeign concept to you probably
>>79973977>how did he fuck it up with camilla?He met her in person
>>79974004Are you saying he's dating a dog?
>>79974039DYRBI?
>>79973972I think vanille is fang's gf
>>79973319Yes
>>79973972>>79974050I think its Riona it looks like her model, shes discount hinabobina from what I remember
>>79974039We were always safe. BBC obsessed sisters are just having moments
>>79973802
>>79974087Minawans... It's over
>>79973319I stopped in December 2021.
>>79974013Mii Mii... I LOVE YOU!!!
>>79973977ozempic wasnt enough to save the relationship
>>79974166well why the fuck is your mascot a big black guy? you're just feeding them whenever theres a lewd of her with the mascot
>>79974190a tack
GOD i love scandinavian tubas>my grandfadderso cute, their accents are adorable unlike AMERICAN WHORE CHUUBAS
thinking about Beri's feet
>>79974039Absolute nonsense. They have been reading /here/ and /shon/ and have deployed a cover story, exactly like meat did over the 3AM AI art debacle.
Are (You) okay?
/flip/ is funny
>>79974246that is definitely a (You) problem.ligga looks at his shadow and thinks there's a black man chasing him baka
fellow AX goers how many chuubas have you plapped so far, I'm at 5
>>79973419I thought the French don't like her, because of her accent, or something
>>79974309homie...
>>79974351i dont have to visit AX for that
>>79974146Vanille, she's Fang's friend
Big /lig/ News. Lucy violated Numi
>>79974309smart snuffy
Wakes up and sees the Filian news Holy kek
>>79973979my ligga
>>79973947what are the badge things underneath the relevant 3
I love my wife! I want to pamper and praise her!
>filian is a scammerim so surprised oomfies. not
Konnichiwagwan
>>79974386>hey can you introduce me to those large streamers????
>>79974293>mumble mumble>cough cough>mumble mumble>it's PISSING me offThey're a delight
>>79974406Everyone knew it was going to happen. It's been posted for well over a year that she didn't have commercial rights.
>>79974441I could hear that last one so clearly
>>79974295i bet beri has gout
>>79974349its never gonna catch me
>>79974415Minion cookies, you can see part of the goggles under Oli's phone
>Silvervale actually streaming with another personHas hell frozen over?
>>79974434You didn't get angry when Coqui was fawning over her so I assume you're either a tourist or a woman on her period
Gobbing to Green Bean’s joints
Rare Swedish horror liggerhttps://www.twitch.tv/misspeggyx
>>79974030no idea also isn't she streaming on Sunday?
>>79974325No.
>>79974457I figure she has some type of permission or was paying royalties but shes more retarded than I thought kek
>>79974499what does it mean
>>79973319Yesn't.
>>79974395Imagine hugging Lucy and she just starts huffing in your scent.
>>79974441god shes perfect
>>79974506is it her boyfriend?
>>79973351were her brasts clopping like I imagine in my fantasies
>>79974550It means Mari is the leader
>>79974592Some chuuba I don't recognize
>>79973369What's this bitch doing out of the deep sea?
>>79974476>that fag at the end stealing his hard workthis really is a metaphor for vtubing. the one ram grinded hard for the fruits of her labor and then a leech swoops in asking for collabs
>>79974550They're part of the Gru Crew
>>79974587Imagine her blown out vagina
>>79974592her girlfriend
>>79974415Those are Minions because they went to watch Despicacble Me 4 together.
>>79974340they're kinda based >>79974294
>>79974217i authored this post
>>79974431This is good banter from her tbf
>>79973972>>79974434why are you such a dick
You do have a rare limited print Filian cup that will never see the light of day again right?
Why is Anny shiting on Filian?
RAKASTAN LOOMIA JA HALUAN MENNÄ NAIMISIIN TÄMÄN DORKAN KANSSA, PERUSTAA PERHEEN TÄMÄN DORKAN KANSSA, JA KASVATTAA AINAKIN 43 LASTA TÄMÄN DORKAN KANSSA, LAPSIA JOTKA PERIVÄT PARHAAT PIIRTEEMME JA OMINAISUUTEMME, MUTTA JOTKA OVAT MYÖS YHTÄ AUTISTISIA SUOMALAISIA KUIN HEIDÄN KAUNIS DORKA ÄITI
Thoughts on Shylily?
>>79974499minion bikinis next
>>79974517Yes! Her stream today will be fun, Ninas day off I can watch my green Bean!
>>79974587I hope we get more 3D Alice at some point, it feels like it's been ages
>>79974819No liggerman, you won't be able to appreciate soundposts!
>>79974325No
>>79974648it might seem crazy what I'm bout to say
In 3 DAYS Lumi will hold a celebration for her birthday! Show your appreciation by contributing to her birthday card! Lumi is a comfy Finnish wolf who likes pepsi and meat a lot! But there's also some rules:>No AI art>No tracing/copying/editing other people's artMaking edits and memes is okay, and you can mess with Lumi model however you wantLumi has multiple designs and hairstyles, feel free to use any!https://imgur.com/a/c4kjzxKhttps://imgur.com/a/E08zow8https://imgur.com/a/ujQIlxhhttps://files.catbox.moe/4a5eq9.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/kbsuf4.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/th3n9a.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r2qi0d.pngThe rest of the rules are standard: tiles must be SFW and have dimensions that are a multiple of 200 (i.e. 200x200, 400x400, 200x400)Also if anyone has posted any and you dont see it here pls repost them I might miss replies sometimes
>>79974517She should stream earlier.
>>79974880theres an apk to browse that can play soundposts now anon, the age of computers is OVER
>>79974856Money making machine
>>79974838Why does her head look shopped on?
>>79974856womp womp
>>79974871
>>79974926but phone too small
>>79974836what did she say?
>>79974838Your wife is absolutely built Raka!
>>79974517Do not gob to green bean
>>79973319At the beginning of /lig/, Saruei and Vienna were my favorite chuubas. Then she had a weird rough patch, then she took like a 2 month break because she was working on a redebut/animation/whatever and that's always a bad idea in a market that was becoming more saturated with good indie alternatives. But now Saru is actually back. She's playing fun games, having a good time, the imouto thing suits her (even though she's older than me by a year or two), she still has the high production value and style.Basically, we are so fucking back.
>>79974926name please?
>>79974856My Oshi Doki likes her so I do too.
>>79974795well why arent smaller 1-2views more self aware, youre like that one guy in every vr stream that just silently follows the streamer constantly moving around to be on screen
>>79974856Rapidly losing her poopcrown to Rain
Has sulkycats been streaming this week? I like her
How large do you need to be to be considered large?
>>79974926>they need an apk
>>79975009
>>79975043kurobaex, gotta turn it on in the settings somewhere though goodluck.
>>79975078friendships are not limited by viewcount homie
>>79975038Before there was /lig/...
>>79975091its funny I always thought her vr model looked like natsumi moe and now they work together
>>79974972What I wouldn't give for an Alice talk show where she just quietly mumbles about horror movies and incest while the guest sits there looking uncomfortable
>>79975091I love my Yuri Bean
>>79974856Shylily is on the official list of poop vtubers. Would you like the full list of poop vtubers?
>>79975142shes not shitting on her. thats the same thing this thread been saying for over a year
tismhttps://www.twitch.tv/chiwadesu
What large indie do i jerk off to today?
>>79974859Little girl belly erotic
>>79974836she doesn't like her
>>79975142thats not shitting on her its a legitimate question
>>79975078You're that school kid who lost on on girls because he didn't think he was cool enough
>>79975105read the OP
>>79975142look at the date ligga
>>79975148>hey I know you're going to be with that group of large streamers that don't know me and I'm not part of that friend group but can I still take a photo with them?
>>79974856I don't watch her streams but she makes my dick really hard and I've jacked off to her several times so I like her
>>79975142That is old and out of context
>>79975183Do you think her and Gigi explored each others bodies while in Japan?
>>79975093I know shylily has it in her to take the crown back. I barely watch her but when I do she is in the middle of telling some poop-related story, and they are absolutely vile. But she is German, so they have different views about poop than normal humans.
>>79975142>this is what catalogsisters view as shitting onis this why the catalog is in turmoil, because even asking questions is deemed a slight against you. how do holoniggas even live
>>79975105for purposes of this general as low as 100 consistentlyfor purposes of having any meaning I think you're a "big" streamer if you pull anywhere near 1k and abovethere's a marked difference in streamers once they hit 4view
>>79975250ok so youre vanille and apparently esl
>>79975192I think you should deploy the list Anon.
>>79975093>>79975192You mean like because she’s German(scat porn) or does she talk about taking fat dumps??
>>79975343there’s something wrong with this torb
>>79975400both
womp womp
Having diarrhea and thinking of Saruei shitting her pants
>>79975319I hope they had steamy lesbian sex in an onsen. I know for a fact she has had sex with Nina.
>>79975260>>79975344I was joking about them inches
It's such a comfy rainy day. I hope you're all as comfy as I am today and find something to smile for today.
>>79974901>3 DAYS
I don't like Bat, but I absolutely would fuck her in the ass, just to see her wobble about afterwards. I wonder if she's attractive irl.
>>79975480fuck you I'm in traffic and its like you're just rubbing it in my face
>>79975480It's 38 celsius and arid as fuck. Fuck you asshole!
>>79975536it could always be worse, theres also the absolute state of the marimari card right now
>>79975453Gonna dick this whale down
>>79975418ai generated
>>79975583there's a mari card?
bnuuy cnuuy
>>79975374Current list of poop vtubers. Poop vtubers are vtubers who love to tell disgusting stories about poop.BaoRainhoeSarueiShylilyVeibaeZumaIf you would like to nominate your oshi for inclusion in this list, please reply to this post and state your reasoning.I also have a question: hypothetically if I were to start a /poop/ general and I were expand to include non-indies are there any holo or niji or other corpos who love to tell poop stories? That may seem like a silly question with respect to holo, but I have heard it said that some of the JP holo girls can be pretty disgusting sometimes.
>>79975536>2024 is over halfway passed
I think Grapes hinting at a plush coming soon, she posted art of fumogrape and said soon
>>79974856https://files.catbox.moe/lz38uu.mp4
absolutely pounding the scandi out of the navian
>>79975480Hi Oli, please look after Shondo and don't let her near any lecherous brown fellows, ta very much!
She's gone...
>>79975038Yea we're really in the Saruei renaissance. And It will only get better.
I Love Lucy
>>79975563>I'm in trafficwhy the fuck are you on your phone posting in traffic. eyes on the road retard
Remember when Saruei used to be mean, and then she became nice? And they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks!
>>79974856Terrible new model, needs to do more VR streams
>>79975682I've been saying this all fucking year since the MGS arc
>>79975632/poop/ might be going too far and the mix of corpo cultures won't work in the long run
>>79975632I don't know much about non-indies but I think that Holo Indonesia has a lot of poopers. I think that Kobo girl even pooped on stream!
>>79974856I still love her and her voice and listening to her talk about haircare and her fat shits
>>79975480It's nice and sunny today. The wind's making the heat a lot easier on me. I think I'll take a hike after work since Nina's not streaming today.
>>79975740It's good to have brother that dicks you down is the moral of the story
>>79975348>if you don't agree with me you must be the chuuba!Grow a spine. Outside of general employment, you're never going to make it anywhere avoiding people that are at higher station than you and you're totally fucked if you're avoiding your friends just because they have more clout
>>79975748People are always talking about Shylily's body language and expressiveness. Whats so great about her? Can she dance? Does she shake her ass in a sensual manner? Because zentreya, for example, is very good at these type of things, and she is a man.
>>79975812Wow, that's amazing! Let me add this to my notes
>>799756822-3 more months and she will go to her depressed phase. It's cyclical
>>79975734If he's in bumper to bumper, then fuck the law. Post away.
>>79975822Thinking of NINAS BIG FUCKING TITS, GOD I LOVE THEM
>>79975740That art contest drama really made her reevaluate herself. She definitely grew as a person because of it.
>>79975663nice, I will purchase
>>79975835I have never heard anyone say that about lily, she's good at piloting l2d and hitting the right toggles at the right time
>>79975632>I were to start a /poop/ generalYou'll get deleted and possibly banned. The thread was kicked out of /vt/ and moved to /d/. It's called /ringo/
>>79975822For me I think i'll have a couple more drinks and fall asleep to the rain
>>79975632filian shat herself on stream, thats gotta count for something right?
>>79975870Even her depression phases aren't as bad as they used to be. It's usually happens during her periods.
>>79975933Ohhh maybe that's what they were saying and I merely misunderstood. Like they are saying that she is like a master puppeteer
>>79975319Judging from their collabs, no
>>79975480nah I hate my life and don't know what the weather is unless I'm outside for the purpose of going to work
>>79975936that was a piss general though
>>799755363 days is plenty of time, as long as it gets shilled in every thread there'll be tiles
what is it with autism women and mspaint
>>79975427Based and subbed
>>79975480i'm watching cartoons :)
cya 2morrow saru. dlc soon. I havent played it nor watched it really cause i wanted to experience through saru's stream
>>79975865Ah yes here it is the SEA-chuuba Kobo taking a shit on stream!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izidXGyPdSM
>>79975936lol what is Ringo? To be clear I'm not asking dir people to write scat fan fiction and fan art, the main purpose will be to discuss vtubers who tell poop stories: for example you could, post, did you hear Amelia Watson yesterday talking about her clogged toilet! That was really gross! Yeah that was really gross but not as gross as Zuma!
>>79975997Ringo catered to a wide gamut of bodily secretions. The four humours if you will.
First tweet under top is Filian's george floyd joke. They're trying to take her down from all angles now.
>>79975936fuk jannies..
>>79975997The OP literally has scat audio, ligga
>>79975949Is this a serious post?
>>79974856A favorite. How freely one breathes in her marvelous streams! Lucidity of thought, purity of poetry. A woman of infinite talent.
I was going to say meh saru stream but the last hour or 2 made it a little better. Maybe Im getting burned out on her playing elden ring so the post might be overly negative but today felt very boring and low energy, no progress, every boss gets beaten in 2 or 3 tries, she didn't really talk with chat a lot outside of just chatting.The last part was better though and it felt like we actually started to make some progress but bosses were still very easy except the damage spunge one, and it felt like she started to banter more with chat the last hour which was fun.I hope we can focus on the main bosses tomorrow since she's only half way after 6 streams. Good night saru! Have fun resting. Good night lig.
>>79976067I'm scared to click on that right now but maybe I will when I'm not at work
Filian's drama will not stop me from sucking her penis
>>79975984When you say things like that you reinforce it to yourself. I know how it feels to be depressed and hate your life but I think you too can find something to smile about today.
I love my wife
>>79976101Filian's downfall is inevitable
>>79976101this won't affect her in any real way though, she's mastered the art of ignoring vtweeters and just going live
>>79976101Filian is just a 20something mild edgelord. No one cares about this sort of thing. If she regularly made racist jokes that would be one thing
>>79974856Isn't she fucking her "manager"?
>>79975828Being social with higher ups is the best way to get promoted in the corpo world. Autistic people (/here/) seethe at this fact because they are too retarded to hold a normal conversation
>>79976139Goodnight frogbro
>>79976266Perfectly normal, perfectly healthy
please link the filian butthole image
>>79976139Good night bro. Elden Ring is kind of a turn off for me which is why I'm skipping these, but also since its party weekend I'm awkwardly also trying to go outside and talk to people which is kind of working but staying up too late to catch these.
Earthbound https://www.twitch.tv/lzysusan
>>79976247>If she regularly made racist jokes that would be one thingeven if she did it would still be a nothingburger. Para and Kirsche exist.
>>79976247she brings up hitler a lot
>>79976101I hope she's not dumb enough to apologize. Give the devil your little finger, and he'll take your entire arm.
>>79976266Her boyfriend that she lives with and treats her right and is seemingly commited to? Yeah Boeska is cool
>>79973403She's cute AND funny (as well as "cute and funny", but she doesn't play that up much). Hardcore idol otaku, has Metal Gear brainrot and doesn't stop talking about it, has a sweet personality, stays out of drama, loves to sing karaoke and go to cons. Kind of a pervert but doesn't play it up or make it her whole personality. Seems very (mutually) attached to her fanbase.
>>79976101vtweeters are just sharks in the water chasing any blood, filian will just ignore these guys again but problem is she might get looked into by corps this time as theres legal issues involved with rindo/mint models and see this so it might not be as easy to ignore.
>>79976375And filian has them onstream. But I've never watched her collabs, does kirsche go off on MAGA shit on Fijian's stream? I have a hard time imagining she would. No one wants to hear that
>>79976214your wife should have a play date with my wife lucy
>>79976101Hahahah the sisters are crawling out of their cretinous caves
>>79976375Para isnt racist and Kirsche is literally Italian she has the pass.
>>79976443The Shondo Lucy VR collab will happen one day...
>>79976387Doesn't everyone? That's how Godwin's law exists
>>79974856euro whore
Mello got her own Advanced.gg flavorhttps://x.com/ChongusDongus/status/1809277120444617131
state mandated 3D to 2D anime girl conversion therapy for real womenwe will force them to be anime women
>>79976463>Para isnt racistshe is and that's a good thing
>>79976139she just got out of tooth surgery or something right? i wouldnt hold it against her and say bad stream. as for beating the bosses, maybe im an elitist but endgame bosses are mostly faceroll and the giant bosses like fire giant are terrible because they dont hit you if you just hug them. i think the endgame will be a decline of excitement since the novelty is really in the beginning of the game and fighting uphill battles - which i think would come back with the dlc since it scales off the new level system. with that said i hope she closes out the game and doesnt do the secondary bosses as much
>>79976214So do a myriad of black men in the Los Angeles populace.
>>79976392This. Don't make any public statements Filian. Get it all settled in private.
>>79976395I mean good for them but I find it a bit weird she still insists she's a sexless maiden.
Could someone with a direct line to shondo ask her to stop having an illness so she can stream again?
>>79976516>raspberry açaiwas expecting ass flavor but im not complaining
>>79976468Thank Squ for getting Lucy back into vr coombaiting although I'm sure Numi put a bunch of ideas in her head about how she should take more breaks and be less creative
>>79976516Thanks for posting Mello, we have happy for you.
>>79975886Have some more.
>>79976589contacting her right now. that direct line to her by the way? yep my penis
>>79976516Impressive some 4views can't get their own flavour for a long time.
>>79976535racism doesnt exist
>>79976400Sounds like a good girl, I might invest.
>>79976516advanced flavors are mostly temporary rebrandszen had that one for valentine's
>>79976589shes coming back next saturday https://twitter.com/fallenshadow_YT/status/1806417216486687172
>>79976623No Numi will just throw a fit in her chat and force Lucy to end like what happened last time after Squ.
>>79976392That's not a universal truth. For example, if she was suddenly losing tons of sponsors and views an apology would be pretty much necessary though unlikely to change anything (see doctor disrespect, lol). But if none of those things are happening, no one would consider apologizing
>>79976375I don't believe it will, but there's not a 0% chance that it could hurt her career. Kirsche already got herself blacklisted from Offkai, regardless of their importance in the grand scheme.
>>79976671It's not gamer supps but all the same garbage.
Just got a Home Depot credit card, liggers for this feel?
>>79976563she's not stupidshe knows she'd lose half her viewers if they knew
>>79976700Okay good I was getting tired of her having an illness. I want some funny Barbie girl collabs
>>79976563Yeah its weird how shes so back and forth on that, most times she talks about never getting laid but then randomly says she can get it anytime and starts calling boeska her man, either the dudes gay or shes a big fat liar
>>79976709>For example, if she was suddenly losing tons of sponsors and views an apology would be pretty much necessaryIt would do nothing to bring back the sponsors. She'd always be a brand risk from then on and it would only further rile up the cancerous vtweeters looking for a target to bully.
>>79976516Don't like her at all but good job
>>79976729Heavenlypadre
Sinder is hosting some kind of event at the Nikke booth (in cosplay) and the booth itself is right in the lobby of the convention building. She posted a video of ithttps://x.com/SinderVTuber/status/1809132717763874974https://x.com/SinderVTuber/status/1808712671841431946
Ecto what if posting
>>79976655I want to bust on that bust
>>79976716I did not even notice that it's not GS. Assumed Advanced was the name of the flavour. Makes sense then.
>>79976729pink thing
>>79976772Yeah but your damned if you do damned if you don't, if you're losing sponsors and you refuse to even address the allegations people will keep piling on until you disappear
>>79976729Nino has the home depot color scheme and she's part mexican so her I guess.
>>79976117Well in the stream where she ate 2 pounds of tacos she was right on the verge of throwing up but managed to say her goodbyes and end normally. After her first laxative stream she was telling people she didnt shit herself in the follow up stream. And during her most recent laxative stream she pulled the plug mid-sentence and didnt bring it up again.
Unless "you" believe that you have legit fucked up, NEVER apologize and ALWAYS double down.
>>79976837I mean that alone is not enough to put her on the list of poop vtubers. But we will keep an eye on her for future poop-related activity
>>79976797thanks for the update sinder. i look forward to seeing your boobs in cosplay
>>79976797ok, silver
>>79976801I'd watch her play revolutionary war games
>>79976730I'm pretty sure everyone knows or at least suspects something. You gotta be really naive to think the man living with her for years is just her manager.
>>79976729A Mexican one
>>79976846Okay but you're never going to believe (or claim to believe) you did anything wrong unless you start to experience serious consequences. No one is seriously boycotting filian so it's a non-issue
>>79976797>Cosplay>The new Nikke event is bikini themed
>>79976846no one asked though
>>79976846She did fuck up though the terms of service literally say don't make merch without permission
>>79976516>raspberry acaiFucking dropped. I'm not buying unless it's chongus asshole flavor, sorry
>>79976818Nah. These people are sadistic bullies looking for a reaction and a victim. Any kind of apology or interaction with them will only encourage them. By apologizing to them, you are only affirming to them that they are in the right. Never do that.
whore clan btfo
>>79976797I hope the cosplay is a micro bikini so I can see her incredibly fat tits and puffy mound.
>>79976801What if ecto was really big?
If you don't like rtx just don't watch the vtubers that do it. Lmao.
"You" have to gamble NOW and FIX your fucking LIFE https://www.twitch.tv/miia/clip/ProtectiveSpookyLapwingPanicBasket-iAb3q6X5goY5cFsp
>>79977018a literal who
>>79977018extremely based whores out
>>79976949>you're never going to believe you did anything wrongthen never apologize>unless you experience consequenceslook to previous answer>>79976979Unless *you* believe you've fucked up
>>79976801Fighting for the confederacy with ecto
what if your oshi set herself ablaze to destroy the corpotree and you woke up in the Crumbling Farum Holovoid
>>79976797Is she shaking her milkers all around the convention hall again or nah
>>79976846Based.Deny and reaccuse
isn't this mikan friends with chromu? kek
>>79976797god call me fucking homelander because goo goo ga ga lemme at them titties.
>>79976751Barbie collab on Friday (the 12th) per Nina.
>>79977018Mikan can stfu
>>79977142>Rob someone>Get caught>Don't think you did anyone wrong>Go to jail anyways
>>79976751Barbie collab next Friday. Shondo might not be there since it’s before her model reveal
>>79977018Based. I stop watching them after they RTX.I'd still rim layna though.
>>79977008That's an oversimplification that doesn't apply to every case. Some people do genuinely fucked up shit (think of certain famous cases outside the vtuber sphere), and people pointing out what they did are hardly "bullies". This doesn't apply to the filian case but sometimes it does
Nina has started uploading her Dokomi songs! Come listen to it if you didn't watch it live!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPrmpIEY76s
>>79977018Psalm 106:3Blessed are those who uphold justice, who practice righteousness at all times.
>>79977238intellectually dishonest argument. It's more like>Rob someone>Government doesn't exist and the best they can do is whine on twitter>proceed to profit
>>79976797I would watch her shake them all day and I'll save every picture of it but if she really is just hanging out in a Bikini at her con booth she's too far gone and shouldnt ever be considered a vtuber again
>>79977018this is not only a correct opinion, it's a fact
>>79977106Miia touched my willy in an artists alley at Anime Expo last year
>>79977311shut up i sex you mom
>>79977276>That's an oversimplificationNo, it's not.>Some people do genuinely fucked up shit Doesn't matter. The only people hounding you over something like that are sadistic, grandstanding bullies looking for a victim. Decent people do not attack others like that. It's that simple.
>>79977202There are multiple Mikans.
>>79977099some vtubers push it on others, it's a rat race to the bottom
>>79977018I think there can be a balance. VTubing these days, especially in the indie sphere, is more of a social thing than it is a business strategy. An argument can be made that doing something like attending a convention or taking part in a live concert is worth "breaking the kayfabe", but the chuubas who feel compelled to throw their anonymity away with a selfie on Twitter for some likes are pretty retarded
>>79977386Okay I'm arguing with a troll or someone very, very dumb, so I'm gonna stop. "I accept your concession," as dumb people like you, often say.
>>79977353im jealous
>>79977165I would love my oshi even more
>>79977322Are you implying that the artist has no right to copyright protection?
>>79977165my oshi isnt a tribalistic redditor who hates hololive just because she is an indie
>>79976801my dad used to do this
>>79977473Here we go again
>>79977458I accept your concession
Layna is worthless and useless. I'll make her drink my pee.
>>79977458There is absolutely nothing to be gained in making a public apology. It's that simple.
>>79976934I don't think you realise how gullible average vtuber viewer is
>>79976139Sweet dreams frog bro
>>79977473copyright is retarded and shouldn’t exist filian once again proving how based she is
>>79977106the way her mic peaks a little bit from how excited she is so adorable
>>79977473copyright law is a tool of the elite that prevents higher quality products from being created. Oh, and just to trigger you, I support AI art as long as it's art I like. The sooner "artists" are living in cardboard boxes on the street the better society will become. I will no longer reply to you as I have won *shits on the floor*
>>79977543It's really not that simple. Sometimes you have an employer or a legal arrangement rhat requires it. Again this doesn't apply to filian but it's not a universal truth
>>79977545this, see 'plausible deniability'
>>79977526I already accepted yours, so it's too late
>>79977541Good yes join the pee force.
>>79977302Luv Nina, great singer
Filian is a wonderful person who is worthy of love and support
>>79977598>Sometimes you have an employer or a legal arrangement rhat requires it.Someone forcing you to do something is not a gain. I put a gun to your head and force you to apologize to me.What exactly are you gaining here?>Again this doesn't apply to filian but it's not a universal truthI have a feeling you're on the spectrum.
>>79977654If she is so wonderful why didn't she get a real model years ago and avoid this unnecessary fiasco
Infact all liggers should drink my piss, it's doing very well for Saruei.
>>79977594this is how I will look when Buff or Reiyu peg me
>found curse ring and keep it>get curse>surprise the curse ring did in fact curse you
>>79977654not now snacker
>>79977459It was an accident, she apologized profusely and was very embarassed
>>79977530What are the chances Chibi immediately breaks hers like all those coffee mugs that go flying off her desk
>>79977679Is that a serious question? Are you that dumb?
>>79977713unfathomably based.
>>79977654she really shouldn't have stolen from 4 fucking artists though
>>79977738You calling me stupid as a deflection and as a sign of you being upset does nothing to further anything. If you want to end this off-topic argument, just stop replying.
>>79977721There's nothing to be gained from apologizing though
>>79977444>but the chuubas who feel compelled to throw their anonymity awayim gonna guess this is what the problem is for people who like the allure of vtubing, either as a viewer or vtuber themselves. indie and western vtubing fused with being a streamer in general and RTX / con-going is one in the same over here. My guess is that eastern or "purists" think that their vtubers will see RTX as a meta that is profitable and therefore their vtubers are "forced" into doing it to keep up, when its not necessarily true. I dont really care if our liggas do some RTX here and there but i wouldnt want them to abandon vtubing, which i dont think will happen. its prob more uptight in the corpo sphere or eastern sphere
>>79977721honestly that makes it sound even hotter. how did that happen?
i ain't reading any of this
>>79977715I wish she found the ring of being gunganbanged instead
>>79977784Your stupidity doesn't upset me in the least, but it mildly everetains me. I'm going to reject your kind suggestions of how I should spend my free time.
>>79977679>Your employer says you have to apologies to continue being employedIs pretty cut and dry. I know you're doing the whole "don't give into the woke bullies" thing without saying the "woke" part, but yeah people need money to live, so it makes sense to do things that ensure you continue getting money.
>>79977654YES! FILIAN IS FUCKING MOGGING EVERYBODY RIGHT NOW!!!!
>>79977837Avoiding a loss is not a gain.
>>79977654Filian has a penis
Filian planned all of this, btw. She just wanted to see how far she could take it without the artist taking action. Now she has all this free drama that will drum up interest in her "reluctant" debut of her new model. Yes she is going to pay out of pocket for the merch already sold but that is a calculated loss.
>>79977888You are really, really, really dumb. Study economics, finance or accounting on the most basic level
>>79977819read on this
Fillan LITERALLY can't stop winning. https://files.catbox.moe/ydjug8.mp3
>>79977888Neither is doing nothing to minimize the loss, and one of those options is objectively better than the other. Are you actually retarded?
>>79977819based and retardpilled
>>79977995Yes, he is.
>>79977833>can't even type entertains me right>not upsetAh yeah>>79977948Anon please. You suddenly starting to call me stupid in the middle of an argument is a concrete sign of you being upset. That's all there is to it.
>>79977458It would be simpler if you would provide an example of someone posting a twitter apology that ended the drama and was a net positive for them
copyright this you fucking pussies
>>79977701>>79977767Copyright is gay and overreachingLike 10 sets of lawyers have ok'd merchThere's a separation between the model, and the designMaking a generic catgirl model for vrchat doesn't give you ownership of generic catgirl designs Seethe 0views
I respect filian less every time someone defends her for this. It wasn't a biggie, but it for sure wasn't right. You're making it bigger than it was and highlighting her crimes. It reflects poorly on her that her fans defend this.
>>79977819rotating something that massive will surely generate it's own magnetosphere
I am banning all discussion of Filian after this post.
I have never liked filian so nothing has changed for me
>>79977815I was buying her art and was pointing over her stall at one I liked, I moved closer to point more accurately (she had her back to me and didn't know I had moved that close) and her autistic outward flopping hands brushed against my johnson.
>>79977973Giving Mint a Russian taunt on her butt mole...
>>79977903do you think she'd be a true demon lord in the tensura world?
>>79977530henya already almost caught up to nyanners...
>>79978015Yes typos are a sign of intense rage.Imagine a world where someone is amused rather than angry at your mental deficiencies. Try very hard to imagine it. Use all your immense intellectual energy.
>>79978061that's a lot of cope to defend blatant theft.
>>79977825>gunganbanged>gungan
>>79978043Yes I agree that moving the goalposts does tend to make things simpler, when you're stupid and losing an argument
>>79973185>Each step you take is paved with the corpses of your enemies...
>>79978158
>>79978129It's obvious you're intellectually insecure. That insecurity got triggered by getting into this argument and so now you're deflecting and defending your ego by trying to enforce the idea that I'm stupid.
>>79978090I'm so jealous and that sounds so cute
>>79978158yes have you seen their tongues?
>>79977985Ahahaha you are a dirty little bastard but a funny one
>>79978182That you are stupid is not an "idea"; it's an empircal fact. Did you finish the task I assigned you? Can you imagine your stupidity being a source of fun and amusement?
>>79977985Very good VA, you should get hired for this
>>79978093I dont know what that is but she absolutely has that kind of potential
How old would you say snackers itt are on average?
>>79977903Now this is a schizophrenic take.
>>79978161You said it makes sense to write an apology on Twitter (in some cases), didn't you? I just ask for an example of such case
>>79978320Physically 40, mentally 8
>>7997832012 or 42 there is no inbetween
>>7997832037 give or take
>>79978290based I knew she can do it
Filian was better when she was more chill on stream. I fucking hate TTS and random sound effects so much bros. It adds fucking nothing to the stream imo.
>>79978320well Filian still shits herself so can't be that much older
>>79977973nice panties. mind if i sniff them?
>>79978410AnonIt adds moneyTo her pocket
>>79978260Oof. Now you're even coming off as narcissistic. How insecure are you?
>>79978410It adds to her wallet and thats all that matters
>>79978320Honestly they mostly seem like older guys who like zoomies. Most of her serious fans are probably 30+
>>79978483>>79978483>>79978483
Filian can be spared the rod if she posts naked dogeza on Twitter
>>79978260>Can you imagine your stupidity being a source of fun and amusement?nta but I was entertained reading the whole thread and this punchline was the cherry. Reminds me to certain local faggot in hlgg roru
Was Filian the one asking creators for free video edits and only offering to pay people who got more than 100k views on theirs or something like that?
>>79978509does she have permission from the model maker to post naked dogezas?
>>79978645as long as she doesn't sell it
>>79973979I like that shes actually a diagnosed autist
>>79978493BBC BBC BBC BBC BBC BBC
>>79974600Margo is at the con,yes
>>79976823if you bring this up on stream she might actually kill you
>>79977707is that you Machida-san, how is life
>>79977825Jar Jar not like this…
>>79975142That's just a reasonable question. Why hasn't she?