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Thread for all discussion, shitposts and banter related to the /vt/ League Unity Cup

https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_Unity_Cup

>what is the Unity Cup
The Unity Cup is an off season /vt/ league invitational using live management on PES16. It's purpose is to provide feedback for a new ruleset.

>what is divegrass
Put simply, a simulation of Pro Evolution Soccer being competed between teams which are embodiments of threads/generals of /vt/. The players represent facets of each thread/generals culture. All of the matches are AI versus AI.

>when to watch
July 6-7, 2024

>where to watch
http://vtleague.420699.xyz/

>LISTEN UP! The Official ∕vt∕ League Album
https://files.catbox.moe/nck8ya.torrent

Today's Matches:
/lig/ vs /who/
/lia/ vs /pcg/
/hlgg/ vs TBD
/hfz/ vs /skynetFC/
/manstars/ vs /baubau/
/corpo/ vs TBD
TBD vs TBD
TBD vs TBD
TBD vs TBD
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chat is this real???
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>>80064729
100% real
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Good morning niggas
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>>80064729
my king, I kneel
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I expect at least 11 goals per match.
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/mythread/ will outkwab /yourthread/
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I'm in for /skynetFC/
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>>80065715
WAO!
IKZ SKYNET!
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CAM ON LIA
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30 bings until divegrass

SHOW ME YOUR WARFACE
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>>80064526
>Unity Cup
>No other big corpos like /vsj+/
>No big autism generals like /vtwbg/
Shan't be watching
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>>80064729
Down with the false King! In the bed!
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>>80066311
Ok, gaylord.
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>>80066430
Can't rape the willing
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Gambling is live in NASFAQ, for those unaware.
Bets are up for Matches 1, 2, 4, and 5 now.
Matches 3, 6, 7, 8, and 9 all rely on previous matches in the day to be determined, and will go up when we know the deciding match results.
Here's when to expect each of those matches to be posted:
>Match 3 - After Match 1
>Match 6 - After Match 2
>Match 7 - After Match 4
>Match 8 - After Match 6
>Match 9 - After Match 8
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>>80066714
WAO!
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>>80066626
My PC is hort right now, Why nasfaq doesn’t work on phone?
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For me, it's Lia from Phase Connect.
>>80066714
WAO!
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>>80066714
Neuroshu my beloved
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Fuck dodger collab, why don’t we have divegrass collab?
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>>80067170
this is the divegrass collab
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EH?
DIVEGRASS??
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So is Gura singing on this one?
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>>80067430
Tummy hort.
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>>80067430
I'll play the Gura hype if Global makes it to grand finals
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Brother Wars

https://youtu.be/uZmxZThb084
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>>80067564
Lia is going to get fucked by the Pippenis
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do you guys really support teams that are for generals based on just 1 girl? how boring.
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>>80067564
O WISH I WAS IN THE LAND OF COTTON
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>>80067691
Look, it's not my fault she's the best girl.
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>>80067736
is it wrong to report this for racism? don't report me, i wasnt announcing a report, I was just asking questions.
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Where are my liggermen at?
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>>80067564
how does /pcg/ cope knowing they are the Union Yankees and /lia/ are the rebels?
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>>80067844
Ret's Ro!
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>>80067945
easy to cope when you're the side that's gonna win
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who will win.
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Uuuuuuuu ligma beam
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Liv btw
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KWAB
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>>80066258
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KWAB
W
A
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Okay I'll bite, who's steve jobs?
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>>80069055
ligma balls
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>>80069568
Kill him.
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>>80069568
End it.
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>mirror match
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>>80064729
Sauce?
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Is the /vt/ manager here?
Are you still running this roster poll https://forms.gle/h9kBabFChJ2TWJLz8
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>>80070827
Better question:
Where's the poll to replace that faggot?
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>>80070827
The /vt/ managers are both managing today. It's Aname from /corpo/ and Towa from /hlgg/.

>>80071196
Seconded.
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>>80071196
Replace him with whomst?
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>>80071449
At this point?
Anyone.
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>>80071196
inb4 this thread dissapears too
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>>80070827
I'm going to be extremely honest with you. I know exactly who you are and between your two teams in /vt/ league, you have contributed nothing of value. You did not make the models for your teams, you did not make tactics, you do not make the portraits correctly, you did not submit even the requests on time, you did not update the roster for one of them out of neglect, and you do not even own a computer.

You are a phoneposter who has freeloaded off of other people's hard work for two leagues and you have the audacity to complain? You know nothing, not even a crumb
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Damn /lia/ looks cracked. So this is the power of homosexuality?
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>aname brought his shit here too.
for fucks sake.
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honestly Live managing is based. I hope that becomes the standard.
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>>80072292
absolutely abhorrent post
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>>80072292
absolutely marvelous post
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>>80072292
yeah I like having more reasons to grudgepost, it fuels me
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>>80072292
>92
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>>80072292
Maybe on planet pause simulator.
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>>80070827
Yeah we are.
>>80072208
That wasn't him nor was it me. Just a fan of the main team I guess
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>>80064729
100% real translation
100% real king
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>>80071496
You cant force someone to do something retard, if you vote out everyone who is willing then there is no team. That's probably your goal however.
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I don't think I'm liking this so far. It feels off - but I'll see through to the end of the day before I lock in my opinion. So far though, both PES16 and live managing seem not good.
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>>80072426
Can you keep your shit out of vtl? Thanks.
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>>80072822
Are you pretending that there's nobody that would manage during a manager fucking cup?
The absolute fucking state.
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>>80072822
Just ignore the schizo, he shits up every thread.
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>>80073028
Nobody willing, yes. Unless you are volunteering to do it. Go for it, throw your hat in the ring. You wont tho.
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Im not watching the game, but i can tell england just scored based on my neighbours
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Reminder Lia Likers split /pcg/ 1 year ago just so they could rape /pcg/ in divegrass
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>>80073097
Last time this conversation was raised the idea of a council was discussed. Might be a place to start.
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>>80073185
Um, based?
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what's this poll thing, is there some rigging/voting I'm missing?
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>>80073097
So if someone says I'll do it, Aname fucks off?
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i really really think a change in management would be healthy at this point, also really don't care who does it as long as its someone else
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Friendly reminder that this is about thread teams, thus all posts about the /vt/ team/manager are offtopic and probably made by the same schizo.
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>>80073583
-t aname
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Strongest pussy in da lig!
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so this is the new league huh? phase, microcorps, lig, and celebrity managers pausing the game constantly
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>>80074322
nope, its just a off season tournament
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>>80074322
holokeks, not like this...
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>>80074322
holo board, holo league
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I don't see the point of live managing. The most autistic managers get to do more stuff with their teams while everyone else has to watch more menu fiddling. It makes the playing field less even, too. Just make your tactics beforehand and let RNG decide, this isn't about skill.
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>>80074322
this is the most bored ive been in one of these
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>>80074322
what's the matter? not enough boring shitty TMA favored HoloX autopilots for ya?
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this game fucking sucks lol
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>every match has been a massive stomp
Nice game you've got there PES16 babs.
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>>80074322
They took everything that makes every other league suck and pasted it right over the things that made vtl fun and unique. Good job.
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>>80074562
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next league will take place in wwe2k24
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>>80074422
Good job anon, you just jinxed it
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>>80074564
if by suck, you mean good, then yes.
livemanaging is the way forward to save the vtl.
only 1 big market winner in 6 cups.
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>>80074627
The AI would probably work better
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>>80074562
The first one was pretty balanced if you take out the kwab.
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>worse graphics
>clunky gameplay
>no attack mentality (+1, -1 ect)
>matches are one way stomps

why exactly are we switching to this PES?
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>>80074627
BBB I KNOW YOU ARE /HERE/ DO A FUNNY IMPRESSION NYOW
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joshu having a melty ITT because he won't have commissioner favored exports to make them op
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>>80074653
>big market
this has lost all meaning, no one gives a fuck about most of these teams. you're telling me fucking manstars is big market?
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>>80074739
pes19 hort
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>>80074653
Live managing is boring and turns the league into a competition between invidiuals rather than a meme competition between threads. Just make it all autopilot and assign tactics randomly if you think there's a balance problem.
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>>80074832
all the highest attended games last cup were the same teams. those are your big markets.
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>>80074872
What about the one used for the early leagues? Those were good.
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>>80074886
the individuals represent the threads, all autopilots just means its the commissioner playing against himself
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>>80074886
There'll be some extra rigging mid-match today because of how the day 1 rules are. Tomorrow should be more agile if there's no extreme tictacs autism.
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>>80074947
pes21 also hort
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>>80074832
The teams for unity cup were specifically picked based on the highest attendance last league
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>>80074872
>>80075142
both were just fine, this version of pes is the real hort
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>>80074886
big agree
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>>80074886
big disagress
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>>80075035
>the individuals represent the threads
No, the teams represent the threads. Nobody in the threads cares about the manager, they're just a necessity.
>all autopilots just means its the commissioner playing against himself
No, it's the AI that plays. Someone has to design the tactics, but nobody except some autists in the dicksword cares who does. Just make it so it's roughly balanced with RNG.
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Dogshit game.
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>>80075401
one could say abysmal dogshit
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>>80074832
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>>80075401
Magnificent game.
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>>80074832
Literally yes.
manstars is a much bigger market than either of the last 2 winners which are small market shitters nobody cares about
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>>80075035
>individuals
A lot of teams have more than one person doing work. If you want to help with your team the caretaker/manager will probably welcome an extra hand.
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SAY HER NAME
AND SHE APPEARS
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>>80075771
I BELIEVE IN MAGIC
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>solves divegrass
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>/hfz/
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>>80075715
we are talking about tactics here, not aesthetics.
answer me this: how many cup winners have been autopilots? the answer may shock you.
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What's with /lig/ recently, weren't they completely buck broken before?
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>>80075257
>actually listening to numberfags
Yeah, league is dying and these are the first set of death throes.
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>>80075799
*ahaha.wav*
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>>80075257
it's the most popular of all the managed teams, of which there are relatively few
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>>80076004
>purple watamage
magic bros...
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i miss when vtl was fun...
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>>80076206
I don't. Because it still is.
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Live managing feels like a symptom of the managers and their friends thinking their managing skills should be an important of the actual tournament, when the entertainment actually comes from humanizing the AI players and the commentary.
Vtuber fans should understand the concept of something being more fun without a look behind the curtain.
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>>80076289
Signed.
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>>80076187
big market teams all have managers
who would have guessed?

also managed teams are at a big disadvantage going up against the commissioner tactics he sets for autopilots. In vtl you are punished for caring about your team and having a manager.
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>>80076420
Then make everyone use autopilots and let them put their care into tangible stuff like aesthetics that people actually notice. If this is even an issue more than 10 people care about.
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why does /hfz/ have 2 teams?
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>>80076420
This. There is literally no incentive to be a manger over an autopilot.

Managers should be rewarded for caring about their team instead of autopilots that have nobody who cares enough to manage? managed teams should not punished. Maybe give managed teams an extra bronze medal player
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>>80076890
It's an automated divegrass tournament about threads full of anonymous posters. Individuals shouldn't play any role, with the exception of what's absolutely necessary. Managers making tactics aren't necessary.
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>>80077076
the people want a change.
simple as.
cope or stop watching.
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>>80076009
New PES version and some witchery.
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>>80077252
the only change I want is UV scroll back
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>>80077076
Let the managers who want to live manage for there general live manage.
It is all just for fun afterall, so why do you care if that is what they want to do?
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>>80077421
uuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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>Implying this isn't just a side tournament to let people see livemanaging in action and test drive the new game
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No matter how many games we go through, possession is still a negative stat.
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I'd tell everyone to stop autisting and enjoy the show, but this is /vt/ after all.

Managers have been a thing for a while and this live-managing thing is basically a test, the League will probably have tictacs as usual. The proof it is working is that you can't name more than 2 managers total.

The autopilot domination is an issue, yes, but eh.
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It is ignoring the problem that the house always wins.
Either allow live managers -or- make all teams autopilots and hold a draw to determine which team gets which sets of tactics.
when the final is more often than not TMA vs TMA that is a problem. Again how many autopilot winners have there been vs. managed?
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>>80076927
omg its joshuler i care now
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>>80077694
All autopilots then. This is dogshit.
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VTL is for fun!
>managed teams want to have fun live managing their teams
NOOO NOT THAT KIND OF FUN REEEEE THINK OF THE JOSHU AND KOYO
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>>80077858
this is dogshit because pes16 is dogshit
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wow another one-sided stomp, at least this match had hyp and has mio, two of the only things that make vtl good. too bad the league is turning into every other dogshit league
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live managing means these are your dynasty teams
>skynet
>lia from phase connect
>lig
>corpo
>baubau
would this be ok?
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>>80077858
It's the first PES 16 tournament for all of these teams. I'd give them a game or two to adjust and then we can see how it is.
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>>80077889
what the fuck is joshu and why do you keep bringing it up
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These games are all fucking stomps.
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>>80077989
much better than /mayo/, /holox/, /tsun/, /fag/, and /pixellink/ being on top
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>>80077694
in all leagues autopilots outnumbered managed teams so an autopilot vs autopilot final is just statistically likely
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>>80078033
If I wanted this absolute dogshit I'd be watching literally any other fucking league.
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>>80078061
dont mind the schizo he shits up every thread
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>>80077694
This. Need to do something. Keep doing the same shit over and over again sucks.
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I CARE NOW
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HOLOFIGHTZ SCORED I CARE NOW
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>>80078419
Making everything dogshit is a bold strategy.
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nevermind pes 16 is a good game
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>>80078419
sucks for who? i've enjoyed all the leagues, i fucking loved VTL6, why would we need a change from that???
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>>80078733
the problem is that if nothing changes /pink/ will win the next league and /myteam/ isn't /pink/
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>>80078419
I haven't enjoyed a cup since vtl5
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>>80078803
>another 6 more months of joshu
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>>80078803
>all the teams who have actual fans and managers don't make it past the round of 16 because they get raped by tma tryhard autopilots
no thanks
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nevermind I lied pes 16 poop
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best match of the day so far
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>>80079128
I quite enjoyed phase connect getting raped.
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>>80079261
I thought all ogamen were hospitalized
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>>80079394
KWAGRB
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>>80079325
Oga will die again in 10 minutes
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>>80079325
that's what they want you to think
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behead all managers who didn't send a hype
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>fuwamoco is collabing with males
KWAB
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Tell beebs to use this as a background theme before the beginning of the matches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwV3h1vqU0A
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>>80080526
>90 minutes of silence match
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>>80077252
>the people want a change
the people want funny models and funny shit to laugh at. thats it.
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>>80080909
Ok, then why do you have a problem with people who want live managing?
You can still have your silly shit to laugh at.
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>>80081027
see >>80077889
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>>80081027
The only thing I have a problem with is a majority of the teams being triangle. If they made it mandatory that a team have a "manager" then there would be no issue. no more caretaker only teams. thats all. we dont need live managing.
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>>80076420
>big markets mention
watch the match an shut up, retard
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>>80081027
Because of all of these dogshit pauses.
>>80081207
This kills the league. It's magic comes from the fact that any thread that wants to play, can.
If you need a pes autist, then only the same autists that already manage in everg league get to play.
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>>80081207
just make all teams triangle, or let people submit tactics and shuffle them

we don't need menu autism and we don't need managers
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>>80081339
>It's magic comes from the fact that any thread that wants to play, can.
lol
lmao
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>>80081339
You dont need a pes autist, the rules prevent tryharding (or at least they did for a while before nightlies started being a thing), and literally anyone can pick up the game and make some jank that could work. It's not hard, honestly.
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>>80081027
live managing slows down the momentum of these games real hard imo
only true soccer autists would enjoy that
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>>80081488
This. There's what 40+ teams and 7 or 8 managers?
Make that number 0.
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>>80081599
>>80081488
nah, that leads to rigging. mandatory managers removes the rigging
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>>80081571
The games are flowing at the same exact pace as VTL6.
Plus, not every match would be live managed.

>>80081599
>7 or 8 managers
even better. Not every game would be live managed. This "pause slow down" is a non-issue.
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>>80081662
Mandatory managers turns this into the namefag infested cancer that is killing every league. It's all the same namefags too.
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>>80081787
There is no need to name the managers at all, or to even bring them up. As you have noticed, nobody has been named at all. And if there was no live managing there would be even less talk of them.
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>>80081748
Why do 40 teams have to put up with the dogshit pauses and tangible disadvantage so 8 namefags who already namefag elsewhere are happy?
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>>80081923
>dogshit pauses
non issues. the games today are moving at the same pace as VTL6.

>tangible disadvantage
but i thought this is just for fun, anon?
why do you now care about disadvantage?
i thought you just wanted to laugh at silly players and hype?
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>>80081913
There's no talk about the managers (except when they turn themselves into memes, see this very thread) BECAUSE their existence is insider baseball.
If every thread required one then everyone would be aware of their existence and of whom the better and worse ones are.
It would also attract namefag drama to the threads.
I like /vtl/ because it has none of that.
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>>80082099
Are you stupid? Doing the pretending to be retarded thing?
Statistically all the teams are currently on an even playing field.
Who the fuck would play if only the teams with the right autist won?
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>whiny schizo still going
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>>80082145
If thats the case then your point is moot as there is already namefagging and "whos better than who" with triangle being on top. your very argument is pointless. the only problem we need to address is the "triangle always wins" problem, and that would be fixed with the change I proposed.
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>>80082303
Triangle does not win however. The threads do.
Important difference.
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OR WHAT IF TMA didn't make try hard tactics for autopilots?
in VTL, it hurts you if you have a manager. This is an obvious problem and it should be fixed. There are several ways to fix it.
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>>80082449
People obviously don't see it that way. It's already too late.
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>>80082482
Who is these people? there's 48 threads and most don't have a manager so if its such a disadvantage to have one, just don't have a manager. Problem solved.
>>80082473
Tri doesn't do try hard anything. He's not some kind of pes super genius. If anything the autopilots have a disadvantage because he has limited time that has to be spread over 40 teams.
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>>80082473
>OR WHAT IF TMA didn't make try hard tactics for autopilots?
this is the solution. he should just make basic bitch nothing special tryhard tactics for autos.
this allows managers who want to make an export with their own shit feel like they are positively impacting their teams without having live managing autism
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>>80081748
>The games are flowing at the same exact pace as VTL6.
stop fucking lying you faggot
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>The gameplay was patched from the last few matches
The roses are on crack
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>>80082699
>Tri doesn't do try hard anything. If anything the autopilots have a disadvantage because he has limited time that has to be spread over 40 teams.
lol
lmao
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>>80082795
cope
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>tma this
>rigged that
niggas in here just saying shit
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>>80082715
This is where we currently are.
Tri isn't supposed to hand managers free wins.
There simply isn't enough time for him to put the work into 40 teams that a manager doing only 1 can. So he necessarily does not, and can not "try hard".
There are however 48 teams and that means everyone has a 1 in 48 chance to win.
And if theres 8 managed teams and 40 non managed ones, odds are the coin flip will land on non managed.
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>>80083072
there were 20 or so managed teams last cup iirc.
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>6-6 game
Yup, this is Pes16 alright!
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>>80083133
No fucking way. Chat can we have a fact check?
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Kino.
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>>80083448
Not 20 but close to that. Maybe 18 or so.
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>>80083623
It's way less than that. Some managers have 2 teams but only one of the teams is managed and the other is an auto.
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BAU BAU
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BAU BAU!
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bau bau!
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>>80084071
>>80083998
Kek cute. Source?
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>>80083448
>>80083755
>current managed teams
baubau
corpo
doog
hfz
hlgg
holox
lia
lig
manstars
morig
pcg
rrat
skynet
tactical
who
wvt
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>>80084371
Wait HoloX is managed? Wasn't anon complaining about only autos winning?
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>>80084812
it's managed now but not when it won
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>>80084979
Wait, if managing is a disadvantage, why would they give up the almighty Tri auto and manage then.
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>>80085090
beats me, every vtl winner does it
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>>80084371
list is wrong, pretty sure neither lia nor holox were managed last league
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>>80085271
look at the greentext anon it says "current"
also lia was managed.

18 is more than 40% of the league, a far cry from the 7 or 8 the crybaby anon was saying
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>>80084147
we made them
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heavyweight prize fight
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>>80086076
Nice. How many of these are there?
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>>80087423
Who's up? I'm on the shitter
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>>80087636 there
>>80076927
https://files.catbox.moe/b0fmkq.png
https://files.catbox.moe/cmlq88.png
https://files.catbox.moe/sk642d.png
there's some others I dont have
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>>80087802
/lia/ - /corpo/ went into eggsdra dime
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>>80087965
Thanks anon.
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>>80088210
found another
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>more pause simulator
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wrestlfag need to book a Spica vs Yippe cage match
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>flips
>steals the cup
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>flips
>loses cup vierweship plummets
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>>80090861
>loses cup vierweship plummets
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/holoX/ isn't managed as of this time. Nor was in the previous league.
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Meat and Filian are fucking murdering people out here
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>Flips
>Magnetizes your hard drive
what the fuck
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I think it's safe to say filian is based after all
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How are you all liking the event so far? Taking feedback is 50% the point of this event being run. The other half is testing and working out PES16.
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>>80093618
This is the most boring this shit has ever been. Worst it has looked as well.
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>>80093618
all good except the massive overtime
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>>80093618
The matches are alright. Games before the reset felt very onesided however.
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>>80093618
Good: The baubau vs manstars game was good. Beebs and commentators have been at the top of their game. The pause autism hasn't actually been as bad as I feared it would be.

Bad: There is pause autism and it definitely broke the flow a few times. I miss the players that used UV scroll, they were so fun. I'm a casual viewer so I don't really care about tactics autism or game versions beyond what I can see right in front of me. I hate the other leagues for all the drama and autism they have and I don't want VTL to become that.

Finally, I feel like the matches today have lacked a certain charm. It's a little hard to articulate, but something is off and I've been less invested and less interested than ever. Part of that is because /myteam/ isn't playing and I don't give a fuck about most of these.
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>>80093618
really not a fan.

feels just like 4cc.
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>>80093829
I agree with your final point. The matches have just felt off. I've watched 4cc and VGL matches on 16 and they felt more fun than the maatches today.
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>>80093618
Huge downgrade both gamewise and matches, bring back the funny animated players
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>>80093618
love it, don't touch a thing
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>>80093618
I want funny meme players looking cool and funny, doing meme shit. I don't want menu autism. I don't want real soccer. The menu autism leads to it feeling like real soccer.
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>>80093618
Live managing has been a nice touch I like that part. The games feels a lot different compared to last league.
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I've only ever watched 4cc and even though everything is 'smaller' and lower stakes I'm having a very good time, also >>80094347
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>>80093618
it's fun I have enjoyed it a lot
I think if there was a way to cool the manager autism when it is extra time and down by multiple goals to kinda cap things from getting too meme/retarded it would be better.

not that it was bad when lia went to extras and was putting the full press on, but we have seen it in 4cc where that stuff turns a game that could be over in 5 minutes to a game that ends in 20 minutes because the other team keeps countering and goal festing (kinda like what happened to /vt/ in winter)
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>>80094717
Flags just cause pointless shitposting and distract from the supposed subject of the board.
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>>80093618
I'm actually enjoying the tournament format, I think it should be a yearly thing. The managing isn't that bad, it's not slowing down things as much as i've seen in other leagues before. Not sold on having it in the actual cup.

I'm not a big fan of PES 2016, multiple one sided blowouts/graphics downgrade/missing features
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>>80093618
Something is fucky with the AI. Defenders like to run away from the attacker that has the ball. not even cursor bug
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>>80093618
>>80094910
this is more or less my feelings too, I like the format for an extra cup event, it at least gives it some extra flavor than a standard exhibition tournament. PES 2016 feels a little wonky but then again most PES games are wonky
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>>80093618
Matches on PES 16 feel worse than previous games. A lot of the matches were easy blowouts, most of which were not even remotely interesting. The match quality has not been an improvement over 19 or 21, which both look better and offer better graphics options for teams.
The managing isn't bad, but I don't think it should be in the main tournament. There should still be a periodic invitational that lets managers do the live thing.

5/10. Not awful, but I feel like it could be way better.
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>>80093618
Do consider reverting the PES version
This isn't the 4cc, and hopefully never becomes that
This is the first time I am genuinely bored in a vt divegrass event
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>>80093618
Keep sucking on that 4cc cock despite how much they hate you.
Surely if you turn the VTL into a lite 4cc, they will like you back.
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>>80095076
Pes16 is known for it's very retarded defense and high scoring shoot outs and blowouts. /baubau/ vs /manstars/ was a great example of peak PES16.
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>>80093618
Not a fan. The scores indicate exciting games score wise but everything feels off. It looks worse and even when there's goals the pauses make everything sluggish.
Feels like a big downgrade from last league in every aspect.
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>>80093618
Don't conceed to namefags trying to get their teams through with outside help.
Managers are cringe
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>>80093618
>All of the power if the so called "big market" teams couldn't beat the ccv of THE FIRST GAME of /vt/ League Tag Team Randomizer
The audience has spoken. This sucks
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>>80093618
The refs being retarded and not calling anything except offsides is annoying
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>>80093618
I don't like
Everything looks really bad. Some of the stadiums that usually has sick ambiences look straight of the Star Wars Prequels.
The looks wouldn't be too unbearable if they weren't followed by absolute snoozefest games were one team scores and runs away eith the lead with no chance for a comeback.
You used to never know what would happen in a vtl game, now it is obvious the moment one team scores..
On top of that, the constant pauses and menus killed any flow and excitement left, especially in the only decent game we had, /manstars/ vs /baubau/.

As for the managers aspect, I do not care, never did, never will. There will always be "NO FUN ALLOWED" fags try harding tictacs to get an advantage for their literal who team, it is what it is.


All in all, I feel this change is a noticeable downgrade
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Okay the game speed increase feels like it was good, this feels better pace
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>>80097804
agreed
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>>80093618
Latter half has been better. Most of the games on the first half either were PES flukes or didn't work that well. But I won't blame PES16 for that yet because most of the 16 games I've seen in other events don't really go like that.

Livemanaging went better than expected.

I'll wait till tomorrow to see if the games feel more "reliable".
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>>80093618
Hate all the pausing.
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>>80098112
part of the problem is a lot of these managers aren't used to live managing, they were having to be wrangled. hopefully tomorrow now that everyone's had a little more experience it'll go a little smoother
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>>80093618
The magic is gone. This feels just like 4cc or vgl.
I'm here for cute girls and funny songs, not to watch autists fuck around with menus.
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>>80093618
if i were a manager i would probably think this fucking ruled and would actively tell all the non-managers to shut up. as is, a 4cc autist go to the finals after a snoozefest so, meh
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Thank you for coming to day 1 of Unity Cup. We're going to keep working on various things for PES16.
We have to fix a couple of things we're aware of but simply haven't had the time:
>Stadium intros
>a few buggy aesthetics
>Yubidokan's pitch
We'll try to clean up what we can overnight and in the morning and then additionally for friendlies.

As for me, I will be working to adjust the offense and goalkeepers to bring the matches to a more tenable level with a GPM around 5.75 rather than the 6.67 we had today.
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I miss Beebs already
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