Do yo agree with her?
>>80142200https://x.com/shylilytwitch/status/1809916252007092419
English vtubing was non-existent prior to Myth. Although she probably owes her success more to Veibae.
Every knee shall bow to the queen of vtubers Gawr Gura
>>80142200>2view who hololeeching
>>80142200Yes, but I don't want to.
>>80142200Didn't she ripoff Vei?
>>80142200yes but fuck off leech
>>80142376>Shylily>2view
>>80142368Most based comment of the day
>>80142200Facts. Hololive is THE company to take it mainstream to a wider audience. The Vtubing community is better for their presence.
>>80142200>Someone said good things about HoloYeah very true and I will agree. Only assholes, retards, mentally ill, and disgusting person will disagree
>>80142376>2viewLmao, she owns that fucking GamerSupps thing pretty much every indie is partnered with. She's definitely rolling in money from every EN indie shilling overpriced caffeine powder.
>>80142200
>>80142200I don't really pay attention to Shylily but this is just in general a good attitute to have in life. Contrast the sisters who are always whinging about people in Hololive getting everything for free and totally being talentless.
>>80142650Is this you?
>>80142200myth literally the one who boost the EN vtubing, even their anti know that
>>80142733>point out it's just overpriced caffeine powder>apparently this means I think it's a good thingAre you retarded?
>>80142200Always has beenEven Nijisanji EN managed to take off due to Myth's success
>>80142200another who another leech
Which one of you is this?
>>80142823Extremely. You didn't answer my question though, Archie.
>>80142200Rising tide raises all ships, unless that ship is a sinking yacht
>>80142856Yes that's me.
>>80142200Note: deepthroating hololive will not increase your chances of going through auditions
>>80142856Okay so you are retarded, or ESL. Probably both.
>>80142200I dislike all western vtubers by default and especially the twitch ones but I don't think I've ever seen anything truly bad from this one.
>>80142855>pay the wave
>>80142200>pavesshe said "paved", which is true.
>>80142905I knew it.
>>80142929Bitch please, Shylily is one of the biggest indies, joining Hololive would be a downgrade for her
>>80142855>pay the wave>incorrect possessive apostropheIt's always the ESLs
>>80143043those waves ain't working for free man
>>80142200orcat <3
>>80142200Is this the vtuber that lives with her "manager"?
>>80142856>>80142905>>80143077What is even the point of this samefagging? Oh wait...
>>80143034Orcatfag here, despite the falseflaggers, the worst thing you could say about Lily is that she's milquetoast. She tries to avoid drama, and generally keeps to herself because she represents her own brand for nendos and her other business things.
>>80143034I liked her old model and when it comes to her streams i detest gacha games so i have not watched her. She seems fine tho
>>80142200Then act like it. Shylily is such a bad representation for vtubing because of how raunchy she is.
>>80143152>twitch chuuba>not living with their managersshe already had that yab when she was less than a 2view, only reason anons remember is because veifags spammed it to death after her not reacting to veibae's bait made some of vei's oilers go to her
G-guys... Niji collabed with the NBA (paid them to be able to slap their logo on their organs and sell merch with it)... They're relevant too okay...
Considering she's ESL, I assume she meant "I love Hololive men." That's pretty dangerously based. She's into Holostars
>>80142929Shylily would never make it in because of her indie status and her humor. Then again if Gigi can make it, i dunno maybe Shylily could as well
>>80142200hey it is that poopsoupgirl
>>80142316after their beef i highly doubt it lol
>>80143236Sounds like she knows exactly what she needs to do to make it.
>>80143554https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBu1hA5s7a4
Hololive IS vtubing.
>>80143554>>80143864Quintessentially german.
>>80143742Nta but in many ways she does. Her complete refusal to get involved in the drama Vei and her fans tried to keep dragging on actually made quite a lot of people start following her - simply because she came out looking like the better person.
>>80142316>English vtubing was non-existent prior to Mythwut
>>80142733>blocking Holo_EN accountHahahahahaha holy fuck imagine being you.
>>80142200paved* the path yeah
>>80142200There is not a Vtuber community
>>80142200Someone better shill her that random ass 2view who beat Hololive to it!
>>80143742qrd?
>>80142929Shylily's probably one of the most well off indies. She owns part of Gamersupps and has a Nendo.
>>80142200>Hololive continues to ruin vtubers and flood the space with fucking tourists>good thingRetarded bitch.
>>80144087Ofcourse I blocked it, the Holo EN account is annoying as fuck with all the homo spam.
>>80145396it all makes sense now
Holotourist in natural habitat
>>80143090It would only be a downgrade for her because she won't own that overated gamersupps even though she knows that twitch is dying
>>80142200lily is based for that
>>80142376she has bigger numbers than some holos lol
>>80142200This so much >>80142616
>>80142200Cringe ass hololeechbuy an ad
>>80145396>deservingUse a dictionary retard.
>>80144873Vei and her fans were trying to start shit with Lily since they sounded similar, iirc.
>>80145396and now she's an avatar for pedos
The actual low 2view is here shitposting, I can smell the jealously
>>80142200I guess even fucking the current CEO of Twitch isn't enough for this grifter.
>>80145784That shit was funny, man. Socials went nuclear.
>>80146864Bro her pussy must be so fucking tight. Look how small this little semen demon is. Fuck I want to go full blitz on her tight german cunt
>>80142200She grifting but true. Shylily is honestly the most brand safe twitch vtubers in this space, she knows how to run a business and has publicly shown profesionallism rarely seen in the indie space. This statement by her consolidated that fact. Hololive EN Myth is the foundation of western vtubing (with some help from Coco) and it will always remain that way
>>80144071Unless you are a newfag, you can't be serious. I still remember how when Myth was announced most people were skeptical and a sizeable chunk of them were outright doomposting about how it was going to ruin vtubers. Turns out fuckers were right but aimed at the wrong target, EN vtubing had its own renaissance arc to the point it became bloated and now there is a whore of your choice for everyone, yet Myth and hololive are still the Kings on the EN side.
>>80147187>Bro her pussy must be so fucking tight.LOL
>>80144087>not blocking homo shills
>>80146090It's either Italian or Arabic.
>>80144071What are you confused by? If your CCV was 1k-ish, you were among the top 10 biggest English vtubers prior to Myth debuting. Now that's just dime a dozen. In fact, Cover initially thought of EN as a minor project. They invested so little in Myth that they didn't even prepare a PV for them. Ame made this last minute https://youtu.be/8c4_22LjGQoEnglish vtubing was such a non-entity, both in terms of viewership and number of vtubers in existence, that Hana and Pikamee were the most well-known and celebrated chuubas for English-speaking fans at the time.
>Hololive paves the way then backs up and paves over the plebs who decided to party in their freshly-paved path
>>80147484today I will remind them
>>80147949 (me)Also /jp/ got so fucking assblasted by the runaway success of Myth that this board was born. So in more ways than one, yes, hololive did pave the way.
>>80142855based
>>80148115And now myth is less popular than JPs again
>>80148252>>>/jp/ go back to your dead board
>>80147949>Ame made this last minute>A lot of the fade-ins are actually shit you can find by default in most video editors>Now looking back, the whole video has the feeling of something that only a content creator would make instead of a professional.I belieb, what the fuck Cover Poor Ame. Shitposting aside, girl did a fuckton to make it work, I remember she even made stream assets for everyone in Myth because she wanted to give them as gifts
>>80148034>>80147484*BOO*
>>80148034That this board was made by holotourist jannies? We know.
>>80148399>2021Retard king.
>>80148611here you go champ
>>80148580I was there when this thing surfaced and still don't remember shit about it, aging fucking sucks dude
>>80148842Now you're dishonestly picking out one single day of Melody's career, during the period where she was the hottest shit on the internet because she blew up for being the only English-speaking anime girl whore leddit knew of. I don't know what you're trying to prove. I know you searched up Ironmouse, Veibae and Nyanners. Why don't you just show me their numbers in 2020? And even then, even if I grant you the 4 of them, you still need to fill out 6 more slots for a top 10 list, which you can't.
>>80148532now she's tired
Agree?Agree? This is like you faggots rediscovering the wheel. I am aghast at how many "vtuber fans" don't seem to understand their entire geographical region and every single twitch indie they follow would have never been vtubing were it not for hololive. Bow you shits, dogeza 2020's HoloJP for making your hobby a reality. Dogeza to Myth for showing it can succeed in the west.
>>80149250>anon said if you were 1kish prior to myth you in top 10>It was false>I corrected it.It's not that deep nor an epeen contest.
>>80149433But you didn't correct anything.
>>80148399>5 views only counting max views not averagealso>prior>2021GTFO newfag
>>80149433You're still wrong. Melody wasn't even a vtuber at the time. She was still doing her e-whoring. You just have Ironmouse, Veibae and Nyanners. How about you just list out 10 English vtubers in 2020 prior to Myth with 1k+ CCV?
>>80149433Fuck I cannot believe I share a board with people this dumb.
>>80148034>This board was literally only made because 2hu faggots on /jp/ couldn't handle one (1) thread>We are literally cursed to have an e-celeb board essentially because of 2hu and /q*/I fucking hate touhou
>>80149563>You're still wrong. Melody wasn't even a vtuberI stopped right there.
>>80149433You didn't correct it though, and what's more you initially seem to think Myth debuted during or after 2021 (and then deleted your embarrassing mistake). Just admit you're a newfag who doesn't know what he's talking about.
>>80149668>1 threadKill yourself back to re**it
>>80149750One thread two threads who fucking cares, the 2hu faggots cried endlessly to the moderators and here we are. A bloated garbage board that's the most tribalistic amongst 4chan that will go on goose chases over the dumbest crap imaginable.
>>80149433I checked the numbers myself since no way this guy is going to be honest and gonna cherry pick shit againAlso did ironmouse botted her followers? She randomlygot 100k followers then 70k got culled by twitch.
>>80144087Unicorns are mentally ill.
>>80149810You don't blend in. Go back to l3ddit.
>>80150227Yeah im the redditor for saying thisFOH
>>80147949>English vtubing was non-existent as long as you disregard the english vtubers that existedalright then
>>80142316By non-existent you just mean that it didn't matter to you.
>>80149810>two threadslol>thread hits bump limit>retarded holotourists make 5 new threads>repeat every hour
>>80150025A bunch of vtubers got bot followed at the time
>>80150025Damn melody really paved the way to western vtubing.
>>80150586No, I mean actually non-existent. Try listing out 10 EN vtubers prior to Myth.
>>80150025Those mass bots follows are from fuckers trying to get channels flagged.
>>80147949That's just arbitrarily setting the bar retroactively to inflate the importance of the current vtubing paradigm. I will also create an arbitrary standard to mark the true start of the vtubing industry, where everyone prior was not really vtubing.For my own arbitrary standard I will imagine a future in the 2130's with over 10 billion people on Earth that all have instantaneous internet access. In this future the top vtubers gets 500k to 1 million ccv daily. If vtubers aren't getting 100k ccv daily they're not really vtubers, and the vtuber industry hasn't even started yet.Just imagine that, we're living in a time before vtubers even exist and we're still talking about them. What an amazing feat of logic, right?
>>80150792Except the ones that existed of course. This isn't even an argument.
>>80150251>reddit spacing
>>80151133List them then.
>>80150792NTA, but I could just list current corpos who were Myth rejects. A lot of them started streaming as indies before Myth did.
>>80151091Also English Vtubing is such a misleading term. You could be an EN vtuber and have no viewers from EU or NA. Nijisanji EN is a big example for this. That's just a broad term to shove SEA viewers under the western audience bubble.
>>80147949oh ame made that? No wonder its more kino than all other HoloEN debut pv's combined. subtle but funny, doesn't slap you in the face and gives a charming amateurish feel vs soulless corpo.
>>80150792That's not how it works.
>>80142200Did she just admit she jumped on the badwagon
>>80151299Myth rejects like Hime that wasn't even a vtuber at the time? Think back on whether Myth themselves were proper vtubers. I feel like this is an illuminating thing for a lot of people because you act so shocked by the idea but haven't really thought about it. Try listing out 10 EN vtubers prior to Myth. You too >>80151091
>>80151641Even if you try and list vtubers active right now it doesn't count. You can't even list 5 vtubers since they don't exist yet according to the arbitrary standard of a vtubing fan in 2130. It's literally not possible. Watch as you try and list a vtuber and they're not even a real vtuber.
>>80151641>illuminating
>>80151871What the fuck are you talking about, retard? Just list the EN vtubers or shut the fuck up.
>>80146909it will be overshadowed by this
>>80150650Oh no the heckin Remilia scat thread got deleted! We need a board for Vtubers!
>>80149668So touhou fans are elitist?
>>80142200>barely streams>gets big dealsWat
>>80152324See, you're proving the point. You think some weird paper doll cutout that wobbles around with a human controlling it is a vtuber. Nobody watches them and their streams aren't even in 360 degrees and 64k streamed directly into neural implants. How can you even call that a vtuber? You have no idea what a vtuber is by my arbitrary 2130 standard.
>>80142733>blocked @Hololive_ENHoly kek
>>80142200i fucking hate these whores larping as vtubers, she said the same shit about ironmouse "paving the way" shut the fuck up slut, if you actually meant what you said you would end your account this moment, seriously all these whores always have to show their ugly irl self to get attention when the point of vtubing is having avatar, literally all you have to do is not show your face and you fuck up, literally the only rule, seriously what is wrong with these people? how can they be so fake? they literally gave the "best vtuber award" to fucking ironmouse, when gura has been carrying the whole EN industry, fuck vshojo, fuck twitch, and fuck these sluts for ruining everything as always
>>80142855>ESL momentHe's not completely wrong, but I'm still going to point and laugh.
>>80152531List out whatever you consider is an EN vtuber prior to Myth. 10 of them.
>>80142200Me me me me. God damnit I hate twitch whores. No body is doing anything for you and you are larping from this hobby.
>>80149433go to sleep forever dumbass newfag
>>80151641No, Myth rejects like those who eventually made it into HoloEN in subsequent generations. Some of them started streaming with vtuber models after being rejected for not having experience, and many of those did so before Myth managed to debut because there was half a year window. Mint, at least three current EN members outside Myth who started streaming with vtuber models before Myth, three gen 0 Tsunderias, Vshojo before they formed Vshojo, one current NijiEN member I've seen frequently mentioned in /wvt/. Not going to go for easy pickings with EN speaking non-ENs like Pika or Hana.
>>80145874she's also not a virgin and she confirmed it during a stream lol
>>80153196yeah she also doesn't have a contract, so has to sell her dignity before becoming homeless and irrelevant lol
>>80144087Are you the same femanon that had a 4 hour long melty because I blocked ERB?
>>80153196I have bad news about the entirety of Holo, anon...
>>80142200From an indie perspective... yeah. I don't dislike Holo but it isn't for me, but it made a lot of people aware of vtubers, and a fair amount of viewers trickle off hololive and find they prefer watching indies or other small corpos.
>>80153573yeah cause not being a virgin it's automatically the same as saying it in front of everyone
>>80145874>upskirt bait for toddlers on justintvQuarter that ccv to get the number of sentient watchers
>>80152448>not a tourist btw
>>80143309She’s keeping it from being sanitized crap. Hololive is Disney-tier
>>80142200But /vt/ told me these Western whores hate Hololive
>>80142733>you and your gamer suppslmao
>>80153692For most normal people it's not an issue.
>>80153980you meant "promiscuous people" because we normal people don't want to hear about your sex life
>>80148580This video gives me a weird reassurance that as much as people complain about Mori, Kronii, and now ERB, they are all still gifts from God even at their absolute lowest points compared to who we could have gotten.
>>80153196if you finger yourself with screwdrivers then you probably aren’t
>>80153980Normal people would go "too much information, I didn't need to know" too.
>>80153980I have a like a dozen female work colleagues and I have no idea about whether they are virgins or not. I mean, some of them have/had boyfriends/husbands, so it might be a given, but it's not like a topic like that ever came up. Not a single one ever said "I'm not a virgin" or "I had sex" and I've been working with some of them for nearly 10 years.The only other female "friends" I have are girlfriends of my male friends and they never said anything about it either, even though various weird topics came up when I were at their places (some of them live together, so I guess that's also a given, but still).Maybe we live in different environments, but for me it's not normal to talk about stuff like that. Maybe I'm old, maybe it's not an issue for younger people.
>>80154136>>80154656>>80155023Seem to have triggered a few anons with this. I wonder why...?
>>80142316>English vtubing was non-existent prior to MythOkay newfriend
>>80155231NTA, but fuck off with your falseflagging, stop using my favorite twitch whore for your console wars, retard.
>>80155231Kek, you were the one spouting what "normal people" do, don't be surprised people call you out on actually being weird.My guess is you don't have anyone to talk to about stuff like that anyway and you just post things like "talking about sex is normal," because you can't cope with the fact your oshi's been with another man.
>>80155365>>80155454Oh yeah, they're definitely mad. lmao
>>80155575you can't just pretend or assume stuff that it's not factually true and expect people to not call you out lol
>>80155575
>>80149250It was specifically because of the Science Team meme group on YouTube, not Redditt.
>>80155307but shiori debuted this year
>>80142200She's right also based for being one of the few indies to acknowledge Gura (they only like to mention Mori or Kiara).
From what I've seen, the larger western vtubers tend to like Hololive more than the 2views. Myth's success caused the western market to boom and was basically the rising tide that lifted all boats.
>>80148034The fucking irony of that image using Coco and Haachama
>>80153871Professionals have standards. Shylily's standards are garbage.
>>80153871>Hololive is Disney-tierDoesn't Disney nowadays stream softcore porn on their Netflix-like platform?
>>80156623I wonder if the 2views hate comes from jealousy.
>>80149668>This board was literally only made because 2hu faggots on /jp/ couldn't handle one (1) threadThis is unironically false./vt/ was made in collaboration with Hololive Global and sharkmeido, who asked the thread if they would be interested in a dedicated vtuber board.I don't know what you heard wherever, but /vt/ was specifically made because Hololive Global decided it'd be a good idea and helped workshop Rule 1 prior to the board's creation (if you look into the archive you can even see the mod talk about making the board, then finally linking the board in the thread). It's not a "containment board" or anything which is why you see vtubers everywhere else on the site too.
>raising normie awareness and becoming mainstream never has and never will backfire
>>80159313Schizoid thinks everything works the same way everytime
>>80159313But enough about HoloEN
>>80142200You would have to be a retard not to agree.If Gawr Gura, and to a lesser extent the other girls of Myth, did not exist, there would not even be a /vt/ board for you to post this question on right now.
>>80144071People forget that Nijisanji was before Hololive. Just like with the NBA, lol? Was that what you were trying to say?But there were indies like Nyanners and Senzawa, One threw it all away.
>>80159911>Just like with the NBAYeah, "lol" is right
>>80155307NTA but non-existent is clearly just a hyperbole for nigh-irrelevant, which is true
>>80159195>not a containment boardBecause this shit doesn't and has never worked. MLP still crops up everywhere, we still have fucking Goodra pasta for god sake. No matter how you slice it, if not for the stink on /jp/ getting the mod staff attention, nothing would have fucking happened.
>>80160339>if not for the stink on /jp/ getting the mod staff attentionThat's wrong too you fucking retard.Sharkmeido was a regular of Hololive Global. That's why he's called "Sharkmeido". /jp/ had no handling on whether the board was made or not. Ironically, /qa/ was a bigger factor because they'd raid the threads trying to make mods move the thread to /trash/, leading to an increased number of reports and /qa/ shutting down. It's why Rule 1 was workshopped since that time lead to an increased amount of people also visiting IRC to bitch about things.
>>80159911Seriously why did they do an "NBA" collab?
>>80148532and somebody else took credit. Sad
Some vtuber History
>>80161804
>>80145600Is he wrong?
>>80142200Well yeah. HoloEN was the driving force for EN vtubing.
>>80146864>Twitch CEOYou mean the coomer who follows only e-thots on his site.https://clips.twitch.tv/WealthySillyOwlImGlitch-ym4xP6EHbEaYcbZD
>>80142200is this another vtuber who stole a model from VR?
>>80160651>>80160339You're conflating a lot of things.This was still that board, the Global thread started there so was the Hololive thread. The spat spilling out into /qa/ and IRC does not predate starting out on that board to begin with. A minor detail in the grand scheme of things.
Shiori had a stream where she talked about the early early days of vtubing, if people are interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neAHCkmIGhg
>>80145600He is not wrong.
The History of vtubers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhkLY7ZZsNIIt was just domination after Myth debuted.
>>80163279Sometimes you just have to stop and think that Moe carried en vtubing basically on her own until Myth.
>>80163279Nyanners was also kicking ass. What happened?Not shown was a gremlin reaching 800k in May 2020, already surpassing all but the top 2.
>>80163977Hope she's doing well now ;)
>>80163977She was a 2view nobody outside of bilibili her entire careerCarrying EN? Lmao
>>80166367Eilene, just let it go.
>>80142200WHO
>>80160339Tbf the shitfest got worse because anons were false flag schuzo posting to get vtubers out of their board, probably didn't predict it's own separate board though.
>>80162030>>80162885>insect hivemind like behaviorlol
>>80170701That's not an argument.
Generally i don't care about Shylily, but this gives me atleast some deserved respect for her, she isnt a total grifter and knows where all EN vtubers should be giving respect. Hololive EN/ Hololive paved the way. As much as i hate EN indies existence this is still nice to see someone actually paying proper respects
>>80172198>Hololive EN/ Hololive paved the way. As much as i hate EN indies existence this is still nice to see someone actually paying proper respectsthe correct post
>>80142200Kudos to all the dodgers fans who were converted into weebs for the night.
>>80172244Yeah i could've just said that but i mean it when i say i have seen bigger grifters than shylily who don't even know where all this originated
EU next.Ame and Gura will be joining Kiara's panel at Japan Expo Paris.
>>80172457I remember Shylily because one of the first Vtubers collabing with Asmongold. She was breaking barriers herself.
>>80142855based esl
>>80172639Eh, I like Lily's yapping enough to stomach the fleshie podcast, even if most of said podcast ended up being WoW.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUoeZTJzcyY
>>80142200can't stand this whore
