Phase does not deserve to be considered one of the big three. It is the corpo equivalent of a shitpost. The level of vtuber discourse on all platforms is brought down by them and their fans.
Good thread. How long until PJ deletes this?
Would you look at thatTrash fighting other trash
>>81432570Isn't your house flooded Ricardo?
>>81432570she's fucking dead
>>81432282People almost died thanks to Anycolor's actions. Did that happen with Phase?Retard.
>>81432826not their fault some attention whore had a melty
>>81432826People “almost died” because of their pathetic mental fortitude. Adults don’t try to kill themselves because coworkers a little mean to you
>>81432282Aren't they literally not? Doesn't VShojo beat them in numbers?
>>81432716>>81432765She will return and this pointless war between trash will end
I'll take a hundred annoying phasefags than genuinely malicious foids like >>81432967
>>81432282If Nijisanji didn't throw away their reputation then all the other corpos wouldn't have seen such a big increase
qrd on the flood thing?
>>81433501Typhoon hit the Philippines
>>81432282Sorry, I don't think you can be part of the big three, two, or just be considered at all if you have no hopes of ever growing your brand outside a tiny country off the coast of China.>but ChinaChinese fans don't count, bugmen have no souls.
>>81432282Well, then we take vshojo as the third part? Think about that. I like Henya, but we don't want them being part of the trinity.
>>81432964>>81432967Post titsNOW
nah niji even lost it's spot as the under-bridge troll
phase is great
These threads are always funny because everyone else is so many levels below hololive they're not worth discussing
>>81433921Did you know that people who have attempted suicide have extremely high odds of going on to finish the job?
>>81432282Just because people are realizing phasefags falseflag and shit up the board the most it doesn't mean you're suddenly going to be seen as good now, nijisis.
>>81432282Phase, cover, and vshojo. Niji is no longer viable globally
>>81434335>Phase>viable globally
>>81434335>no longer viable globallyneither are phase and v"2guys"shojo though
>>81432282>3rdVSPO
>>81434335Phase is literally just "/pol/ rabbit and her orbiters". They aren't even viable in EN.
>>81432282Niji doesn't either.Nice bait, though.
There never was and never will be a "Big Three"Only the Four Kings with one true Queen, everyone else is just a bunch of maggots butchering their legacy and destroying the vtubing scene. They can boast their bigger numbers, but they left no legacy, only destruction and trash. None respected history, disgusting.
>>81434739>None respected history, disgusting.should every popular vtuber be replaced with a chink VA to respect Ai's legacy?
>>81434721
>>81434562apples and oranges, it's viable in it's Cover-dependent niche, the one it took from niji
if we talk strictly about Japanese vtuber scene, there clearly is a "big three" and it's Holo, Niji and VSPO
>>81434739hey boomer im sorry your whores are long dead but fuck off
>>81432282Muh digital horse races
>>81434832Hololive doesn't have any overlap with /pol/shit
>>81433623>vshojovshojo isnt a corpo just a prominent group of vtubers
>>81434892Fair point, but I'm more interested about potential growth.
>Phase number 3>When VSPO and Vshojo existEven fucking ISEGYE and Neoporte get better numbers than Phase. PhaseJP doesn't even break 300 CCV on a regular day. The only member who does ran away to EN to leech the EN audience.
where did this meme about phase and vshojo having global presence come from
>>81434832Retard
>>81435117>>81434892>>81434506what the fuck is a vspo
>>81435163for a while VShojo was employing two of the top ex-holoJP, including the (still) highest SC'd vtuber of all time
>>81435025>vshojo isnt a corpoSeek medicine.
>>81432826not to defend anyone but ultimately the one who chooses to end (or attempt to) end their own lives is the person themselves.
>>81435281how does that equate global presence when they were both neutered
>>81432282Both phase and Niji are trash.
Mythic at this point is unironically bigger than Phase. Filian alone solos the entire corpo. Wasn't Phase's max viewership ever 7k?
>>81432826Imagine committing suicide over a music video instead of waiting a day.
>>81435202tryhard gamer fps shit "vtubers", they leech off tourneysvspo is worse than phase since they push esport slops to the scene
>>81432964>>81432967>>81435291
>>81435367mythic isn't a vtuber corpo retard
>>81435406think what you want to believe. all this mess started because one woman had a tantrum so there's no innocent sides.
>>81435490neither is vshojo
>>81435406wow your post is really mean, I'm gonna go kill myself. I guess that makes you responsible for my death
>>81435520are you being stupid on purpose?
>>81435371>VSPO is worse than Phaselol, lmao
>>81435369>>81435519Nijiniggers be like
>>81435638i'm not taking any sides, genius. both sides did wrong.
>>81432282>>81432282>implying i'll shake hands with nijiniggersDont touch me.
>>81432282No one wants to shake hands with cocksuckers
>>81434220Damn nijisanji is gonna kill themselves againWomp womp
>>81435371Leeching dramatubers and bloodsports faggots is the lowest you can possibly go
>>81435542Correct. Now don't dilly dally
>>81435291Nice brackets retard
>>81432282I don't think OP should be considered heterosexual as he clearly sucks massive cocks.
>>81436175i didn't mean any malice by it if that's what your brainworms are telling you, Einstein. or did you want me to rephrase it to "to try to"?
>>81434562What year are you living in, pippa disallows politics in her streams now and all those viewers fled to kirsche
>>81437042lmao deflecting to the phase boogyeman once again
>>81437042>She doesn't say Nazi shit in public anymoreogey
>>81437152???Did you reply to the wrong person?Kirsche literally gets more viewers than Pippa now because Pippa tripled down on no politics, she banned people in chat for posting about the assassination attempt, the only people watching Pippa now are all the regular vtuber fans
>>81437394/pol/fags are not regular vtuber fans
>>81437042yeah because she found out it has consequences
>>81437343Pippa is on record praising BLM and other left leaning policies, she said she has been around too much extremism and wants to get away from that part of the internetDo none of you watch streams?
>>81437394She already showed who she is, trying to backpedal and put on a mask doesn't work when you start your career mask off.
>>81437446They all literally went to kirsche, when they both stream at the same time pippa has less than 3k CCV and kirsche has more than 3k CCV when pippa used to average 5-6k CCVThe no politics shit actually worked, dramafags left>>81437448The whole camelot situation was retarded, im glad fishman stopped the rekieta stream from happening, all these political streamers are retards
>>81437549This entire industry is fueled by dumb women doing dumb women things, are you retarded?
>>81437690>They all literally went to kirschemaybe if you say it more times it will become reality!
>>81435700Oh you're so full of shit. Keep seething, sister.
>>81437502So she's a grifter that just spouts whatever shit she thinks will get her the most money, got it
>>81437690Pippa never had 5-6k you retard, stop lying
>>81437927Anon that's every woman, literally every womanThe entire indie twitch vtuber scene is plagued with this shit, camila came out recently to do the same shit as pippa and denounce her past self as retardedSingle women + social media is a cancer, but every non-drama vtuber is being carefully managed by their BF, its a rough life
>>81433283Anon, Nozomi Kasuga has moved on, even if Upd8 actually does bring back Kizuna Ai, it won't be the same.
>>81437951Anon her peak was in the 7's?Now i know you fags don't watch streams, im arguing with retards that dont watch streams and argue about strawmans they've concocted that aren't even relevant in this year
discussion of holo-niji becomes pol vs pol, thanks for this garbage thread op
>>81438424it's inevitable, phasepagpags want a piece of that relevance but they can't deny their nature
>>81438268There’s no argument, you’re just lying about her numbers
>>81437951Factually wrong
>>81438561not a good look
>>81438561One stream does mean average
>>81438555I happened to save these when it was rare for her to hit these viewership milestones, afterwards 5k was regular for her until she cut out drama faggotry
>>81438151She never left, only resigned from an advisory role in the company. She WILL return and shut up these Holo vs Niji garbage throwing contest.
>>81438639Lying on the internet? Who would of thought
>>81437042She'll never be free of sin after inviting the Kiwifags into her fanbase
>>81438652okay grandpa keep inhaling copium, surely it will get you somewhere
>>81438701ESLs pagpags on 4chan? Who would have thought
>>81438606>>81438613>Pippa never had 5-6k you retard, stop lying>oh wait she DID have that, but she wasn't averaging it!I stopped cataloging it because it was a regular thing, her police react streams almost always got 5k viewers, you're flat wrongI get it, you don't like her, but making up things in your head when you admittedly don't watch her is silly, how would you know her average this past yearWhy do you think Filian has been collabing with her so much? You really think Filian isn't chasing numbers?
>>81438652look, anon, i've been きずなー since 2017. in no way is she in the same playing field or level as holoniji. the content she puts out just doesn't appeal to fans of the current zeitgeist.
>>81438788>duh everyone I don’t like is eslNice overly used insult, how original
>>81434335Phase is failing in JP and the only actual JP Vshoujo left. Where is globally?
>>81438702Kirsche absorbed them all, it's why Pippa's CCV got cut in half these last few months and Kirsche's grew by that exact amountPippa is hardline banning it from her community and it was mandated by phase management as well after the camelot incident
>>81438905That's because the current vtubing meta is just flat out wrong and cancerous. Streaming for long hours was a mistake, Live2D was a mistake. The only way to save vtubing is to reverse the course of history and make sure Nijisanji never existed. Or if we kill Nijisanji first, they take priority for destroying the old scene. Hololive can wait for its turn. Western "vtuber" corpos like Phase are ticking time bombs, they will explode on their own.
>>81432282they don't have the numbers to be considered "big" in any way at all
>>81439306cute larp anon
>>81438837>regular thing
>>81439306counterpoint: everyone /here/ has living oshi unlike (You)
Hololive is experiencing Nintendo's dominance in the 80s and early to mid 90s. They're the ones paving the path. Niji, Phase and Shojo are like Phillips, Sega, Hudson trying to get a slice. But only a major corporation like Sony or what not can compete with Hololive as a brand at this point. There is not big three, there's big holo.
>>81439637Niji is Sony - started out strong but losing relevance due to self sabotage.
>>81439708kek true, I still don't understand how they squandered Salome so hard
>>81439708Niji is Sega precisely for those reasons. Sony is a major corporation that was leading the electronics market and then decided to invest in gaming. There isn't something like that yet on vtubing. But it'll happen.
>>81439306>Aifags memory holing the fact their downfall was self inflicted
>>81439708You mean sega
>>81439784I thought the comparison was regarding consoles only.
>>81432282Serious question: why do you give a shit? Like, really. Why are you wasting so much of your limited time on this earth getting triggered by the sub counts of vtubers you don't even watch?
>>81439753From what I heard, her explosive growth/success led to jealousy from the rabid fujo fans of the top boys, and worse yet, her coworkers themselves, one of which straight up told her to be mindful of her place. So she got sabotaged by everyone due to tall poppy syndrome.
>>81440132kek typical of niji
kek I like that no ones even gonna pretend that Pippa isn't the only semi-relevant member of phase
>>81433261VSPO beats both
>>81439868then it's even more sega because sega's issue was to accelerate pumping out a new console with a 3 year average.
>"console" war thread turned into an actual console war
>>81441791Never heard of them.
>>81441791True. VSPO definitely buys more bots than Phase.
The fight for second is now Phase vs Vshojo
>>81442182Mouse does better numbers than any HoloEN
>>81441791VSPO leech on ecelebs and esports sceneThey are not vtubers at heart, just tryhard "gamers" pretending to be vtubers
>>81442235anonchama everyone leeches off FPS tourneys and e-celebs
>>81442228There is no I(ronmouse) in Team.
>>81432964Nothing you say can revive NijiEN's prospects in the west. The war is over. Dokibird and the anti-NijiEN faction won.
>>81442228Only when her clique raids her with 5k+ a pop, which is every day. Let's look at the numbers pre-raid though...
>>81432282Man, NijiEN isn't even in the top 4 EN vtuber corpos anymore.
>>81432282I wanna know what kind of mind thinks "the big three" are Holo, Niji, and Phase and not Holo, VShojo, and Niji
>>81442182/#/ here. There is no battle. It is abundantly clear.
>>81444449kek
>>81444449Happy to see Mika doing well. She was always more Twitch coded.
>>81442235do they do well or are they just there to be in the kill feed?
>>81446598I don't watch fps slops, doesnt matter anywayEveryone in esport is talentless retard
>>81432282>>81432282>Phase does not deserve to be considered one of the big three.They literally aren't EN tardVspo cuties are still miles away those who
>>81446781They sure are.Just look how fast those 6k real people are chatting
I see they finally got enough water out of their huts to start posting again
Nijisanji EN is losing to 3 view shitters>but Kazuh-Nobody cares about NijiJP talents outside of /jp/.
>>81446888Nobody cares about Phase outside of /vt/
>>81446950We're both right. There is no big 3, it's just Hololive.
holos seething because tenma covered shanti better than suiseihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSica-4M2NE&list=RDXSica-4M2NE
>>81432282I wonder who made this thread
>>81435700Based and maturepilled.
>>81447000Posting about non-holos on /vt/ should be a bannable offense. It's basically shitposting
>>81444382People who doesn't speak english and arent from /jp/The top 3 in en are holo vshojo and phase.In the en market Niji is nowhere near top 3 post-selen. They are 5th behind mythic/indie. In the kaigai market as a whole they are like no.6, being outdone by aka virtual.
>>81447717(Me) Oof i mean people who doesnt speak japanese. If you just look at watch hours, ccv, money make probs some corpo in china makes more than vspo. But I don't care about china and I won't care about vspo in the same vein. I don't speak the fucking language.
>>81439010kirsche our sin eater and everything else eater
>>81444642Lol honestly sums us up.