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>>86280017So this is the vaunted "good" euro hours
from this point on holo v holo posters will forfeit their testicles
>>86280329Only place that gave the gang shit is american places like here who think it's good to ignore how the game should be played, Euros, SEA and nips thought the cops were the crappiest faction.
If you guys have evidence against what the retard said just post it and stop giving him (You)s
>>86280411crosspost samefag applesauce
>>86280252>>86280277>>86280287>>86280291Imagine being this delusional
What sort of CCV are we expecting for ReGLOSS from now on? They should all be consistent 5views after that incredible performance, right? No more 1k/3view streams from them?
GI MURIN!!!
>>86280465
Man, FWMC surely mastered the comedic time for this one>HoloJP Reacts To Clip Of FuwaMoco Ignoring Kanata For Garibaldihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc3kZ1c5NrsKanata, as usual, played the perfect straight man too.>ALSO: SINCE WHEN TOWA ROOM IS THIS NICE AND SHE'S THIS SEXY?AM I TURNING HOMOSEX?
who the fuck is timmy?
MASSIVE collab happening right now outside the garden
>>86280017Every fucking western vtuber idolizes Mori lmao, even fucking Ironmouse does
>>86280475are you this bored? try drinking or something idk, this morning was a lot more fun than this dumbassery
>>86280479>incredible performance????It got good numbers but that was one of the most boring lives I've watched this year
>>86280475Yeah, just imagine spouting this unironically >>86280017
>>86280475holoENfags believe their dead branch is still relevant, please understand.
>>86280451you're a eunuch now, congrats
>>86280479>What sort of CCV are we expecting for ReGLOSS from now on? Same as the day before.>They should all be consistent 5views after that incredible performance, right? Not really.
>ReGLOSS 3D Live Reach the Tophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIYvks57cQA>1st Album "ReGLOSS"https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1833478041307385980>Feeling Gradation *new*https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=u4uDiV3u-do>セプテンバーさん / September-san (cover) *new*https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=OHQ-npgd2Ok>快晴 / Kaisei (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=YA7QcvdHk70>青と夏 / Ao To Natsu (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnAk_ZGfvdw>青のすみか / Ao no Sumika (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=efF_c9D-R-A>Bling-Bang-Bang-Born (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=vFDysagoQw0>奏 / Kanade (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=VT1on_WaMzw>My Dearest (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s>DAYBREAK FRONTLINE (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg>名前のない怪物 / Namae No Nai Kaibutsu (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok>Shunkan Heartbeat Otonose Kanade SOLO ver.https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnRwOG06UtI>カバー曲 / Cover Songshttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUEA7yBOKxdRPdI4vYmL-dR>歌まとめ / All Songshttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUogkBSe9WqTU0X1ia7xi_1
>>86280557It's what happens when you let jpcucks feel comfortable in the thread
Reminder of how sexxo Jimmy is
What set the Nijipiggies off this time? Is their JP branch getting constantly mogged by EN starting to get to them?
>>86280570I warned you about the jpcucks bro
>>86280570oops, there goes another set of balls
Someone post Ironlung oshi’ing mori
>>86280516no matter how disgusting towa's voice is her design is pure sex because everything rurudo makes is sex
>>86280532REAL MALE VTUBER HAVE NEVER BEEN TRIED!Also:>WHO THE FUCK HAD THE IDEA OF FALL GUYS IN 2024?!?!It was THE meta in mid 2020 but .... four years down the line?
>>86280557>>86280566Show me a single VTuber that does. Just a single one that isn't part of Holo and actually knows what they're talking about instead of talking about surface level shit.
>>86280507
>>86280516The part where Kanata goes back to the bakery is great. FWMC kept playing Born to be BAUdol on the TV in there and they even put some grafitti up on the building.
>>86280612It's euro hours
How about you guys actually post some evidence to BTFO the retard instead of just shitflinging for 200 posts and making the entire thread unusable?You can also ignore him of course but clearly you're not doing that?
>>86280532>organize collab >get 22 viewersI have to imagine the globie males are psyops of some kind and people are getting paid to collab with them
Why is Marine like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nckkVBZ6ULw
>>86280121>>86280136>>86280172>>86280212Feel free to post streams, clips or references that indicate that EN indies are watching HoloEN.I can wait for a VERY long time.
HoloEN has finally figured out that they need to prioritize THEIR audience and yet still some last samurai think that pandering to nips is the way to go.
>>86280667Because schizo seamurai nijifucks don't care about evidence and will continue their delusional crusade regardless
>>86280612They are resorting to holoEN vs holoJP threadshitting. Not understanding how this simply means that HOLOLIVE IS AT THE TOP WITH NO FUCKING COMPETITION
>>86280708https://youtu.be/BH2jB3FXulI
so heres a quick chatspeed report from yesterday>despite getting more ccv than towa, hinano got something around 1/10 of towas chat speed. Vsbots as usual.
>>86280374>>86267851Ok this sound hilarious after rion self-admitted fake signature. Anyone have the image of it?
>>86280667There is no any evidence because no EN VTuber gives a single fuck about Holo
>>86280635none of them. holoEN doesn't even get discussed outside their little bubble outside of things like nyanners making fun of them when she was reacting to videos. holoEN is a non-entity at best and a laughing stock at worst outside their bubble.
So, how long till we see a post on the subreddit about what Miko said earlier lmaoSuppose there’s probably not an English clip yet
>>86280744inb4 'Gura isn't EN' or some retarded seamurai cope
>>86280635https://x.com/kissykissynumi>Inb4 it doesn't count
>>86280721Ok then why keep giving him attention? Don't you even dare say "they reply to each other" because that guy was getting 10 (You)s per post last thread
>Get perms for big seasonal minigame server>Do this
>>86280516Sometimes all it takes is to pick a vocal tick AND STICK WITH IT!The repetition makes it amusing in itself, peko
>>86280746just an average day at vsbots
>>86280809based
>>86280798out of everyone you could've pickedkek
>>86280809The Fubuway
>>86280557NTA but he's right. Most 4views in the EN sphere are more into Ironmouse, Neuro or the western twitch chuuba clique.There's no big indies who do watchalongs for stuff like Breaking Dimensions, or hell even TALK about idolshit in general.Whether this is a problem with the "world outside the garden", the seethe at HoloEN for not "sharing" their views, or the lack of influence of HoloEN is debatable though.
>>86280799Because if you let threadshiting retards propagate narratives without pushback catalog subhumans, nnewfags, and dramanigs that farm the board for content will take it at face value
>>86280799Because >>86280751>>86280753Are replying to themselves
huge flop
The only thing EN VTubers want is for Holo to implode because they didn't get in.
>>86280746I was wondering about that myself. Hinano surely bats above her chat speed very frequently
>>86280858>NTA butLolLmao
>>86280744> hololive walked so indies could runisn't she just seething about EN?
*FINAL EN COPE TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>09/28 TALLY (1.000 - 4.999)4.883: Kiara (Hololive) | The Legend of Zelda: EoW3.915: Shiori (Hololive) | Team Fortress 2 HoloEN Collab3.454: Dokibird (Indie) | Apex Legends2.376: Dokibird (Indie) | Freddi Fish and the Case of the Missing Kelp Seeds2.330: Shu (Nijisanji) | Pico Park 2 Collab1.781: Shu (Nijisanji) | Valorant1.445: Sonny (Nijisanji) | Street Fighter 61.294: Pippa (Phase-Connect) | Variety Stream1.240: Uki (Nijisanji) | Crime Scene Cleaner1.178: Luca (Nijisanji) | Minecraft1.074: Rosemi (Nijisanji) | Just Cooking1.057: Muyu (Phase-Connect) | Voices of the Void1.017: Bettel (Holostars) | Just Chatting
>>86280881ENshitters...
>>86280593sex
>>86280908Learn English. She says that hololive set the stage for indies to flourish
>>862808584views don't actually watch streams, they don't have the time.
>>86280667It’s fun to laugh at retards. Ironmouse kneels to mori and Shylily literally said its thanks to Holo that indies can run. What the fuck more you need? Literally only one else that matters is Filian and she rather shit talk everyone else.
>>86280809fubuki is chilling
>>86280708Filian talking about how Gura got 3 million with the Sushiro collab?that was pretty funny
>>86280912>SEPTEMBER 21-30 EN ULTRA COPE POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 3pts, silver = 2pts, bronze = 1pt)218p: Dokibird211p: Mint204p: Shu204p: Uruka203p: Kiara203p: Calli203p: Shiina200p: Meloco200p: Airi200p: Altare
>>86280809Sasuga friend, she just wants to fish
>>86280783can you point me to a recent gura stream where she is speaking the [EN]glish language
>>86280798>Literal who twitch thotConcession accepted
>>86280809>今年の釣りがはじまりました。 その1>その1
>>86280532lala... groomed by literal 2views
>>86280961I mean they REFERENCE EN plenty of times anon.The question was about "idolization".No one in the twitch scene really "idolizes" HoloEN or want to follow the path of VTubing that they set up.EN indie culture was never "inspired" by HoloEN.
>>86280799>just let them tell their lies broNo
>>86280994Fuck off already, you're spamming your seethe on cooldown with the sole purpose of shitting this thread up
>>86280593Her waist is so tiny I could probably nearly wrap my hands completely around it
>>86280744She wants to suck gura's dick so bad. She was in gura's twitter replies for a while but eventually gave up.
>>86280908More like hololive ran so indies could walk/step forward with a cane
>>86280994Ahahahahaaha
>>86281016>it doesn't countCalled it
>>86280860>if you let threadshiting retards propagate narratives without pushbackYou just said that proving him wrong doesn't matter now you justifying the counter shitposting as pushback.It's either one or the other.
>>86280994what is this AI generated nonsense? Fix your bot
Some numbers without those who no one cares about.
>>86280809has she done fishing irl yet?
>>86280858PippaFilian
>>86281033this is my first post in like 4 hours little faggot ive been watching poe
>>86280858>NTA
>>86281027>moving the goalpostsSasuga jpnig
>>86281031see >>86280667 >>86281068
>86281087least obvious bait
>euro hours>thread is shitLike clockwork
>>86281082I remember there being a vlog with group of holos that had fishing but I don't remember if FBK was in it
>>86281077phase is stealing viewers from homos, kek
>>86281117>doesn't countJPcuck seethe
>EN needs literal who indies to watch them otherwise they're nothingSounds like a /lig/ger got bored of shitting up the catalog and other holo splits>>86254545>>86254571>>86254584>>86254602
>>86281129>clockworkclock you say huh
>>86281068This is why you don't humor the subhumans by playing along with them, they just spring the goalposts down the field. >>86281027You just need to provide consensus for onlookers, that's what really matters and attempting to build consensus iswhy threadshitters samefag and reply to each other endlessly
>>86280746Why did you choose the moment when her chat dropped to 4?
>>86280958i don’t remember her shit talking anyone except fentanyl floyd
>>86280746vspo doesnt know what shame is
>MOST INFLUENTIAL THREADdoesn't have to do anything and schizos will still flock here like moths to a flame. Are we too influential?
>>86281099read nigger >>86280017> EN indies don't idolize HoloENstill no counterexamples btw
>>86281129Thread is great actually. Shitting on schizo narratives.
>>86281242>schizosnot your hugboxposts you dont like =! schizo
>>86280809Fubuki's autism is something else.
>>86281206You are a thread shitter. It's not jps. It's larpers
>>86281176of course
>>86281254>still no counterexamples>>86280798
>Still no evidence that any VTuber outside of Holo gives a fuck about HoloENGrim thread
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>204,313: DEV_IS (Hololive)>76,090: Miko (Hololive)>46,174: Fubuki (Hololive)>45,858: Botan (Hololive)>35,900: Subaru (Hololive)>32,256: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>30,774: Subaru (Hololive)>27,759: Pekora (Hololive)>27,607: Amelia (Hololive)>27,317: Korone (Hololive)>25,834: Ange (Nijisanji)>18,997: Akira (Nijisanji)>18,824: Chiroru (Indie)>18,808: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>16,700: Subaru (Hololive)>14,486: Fubuki (Hololive)>14,119: Koyori (Hololive)>13,683: Towa (Hololive)>12,600: Meika (Indie)>12,586: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>11,972: Chaika (Nijisanji)>11,879: Koyori (Hololive)>11,865: Kanata (Hololive)>11,734: Mio (Hololive)>10,681: QueueTan (Indie)>10,538: AZKi (Hololive)Gold for Hololive DEV_IS channel for the 3D debut of the five girls with Miko getting silver with GTA clips and Fubuki, bronze
>>86281281Funny that sounds just like what a seething schizo would say
Is it time?
jwu is CCRR cute
>>86280744>Hololive walk>indies runrumao
>>86281316>>86280798
I see we’re going the global route and feeding the schizos so they feel welcome
>>86281347Yes, always
SOONhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Ufi2lU7SIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Ufi2lU7SIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Ufi2lU7SI
>>86281176I don't remember /lig/gers being this fucking schizo. Am I just misremembering or the Justice debuts did damage them permanently?
>>86281316PippaFilian
>>86281344yes, unleash the CUNY and scare the roaches
>>86281281t. least obvious schizo
>>86281372Welcome to euro hours
>>86281343>>86281281
Hina.
>>86281379What's with that completely off model thumb?
>>86281379Isn't this guy the one who shipped himself with Zeta
>>86281347Yeah. CC was bit horny but now she just wants beer but RR is against that.
>>86281396The schizo doth protest too much methinks
>>86281290Pretending that /jp/fags don't cause a lion's share of the ENseethe isn't going to change reality. Now they mostly aren't HoloJP fans, they're the same Niji/VSPO cumstains that tried and failed to flee to another thread. But they are /jp/fags.
wawa's wawas
>>86281344time for what
>>86281382No this is just jpcucks taking on a new tactic
>>86281205the fact that he's moving goalposts is already a win and it forces him to adapt his shitposting on the fly which you know these subhumans aren't good atI get what you're saying to some degree but if the point is creating consensus at least some evidence helps
Echoes of Wisdom looks pretty shit desu
>>86281369Looks like your average grifting e-thot
>>86281344I just got here but won't be able to help much. I'm pretty busy.
uoooh
>>86281290Yeah anon it's not like the 600 euro frog doesn't spend every day in this thread seething about miko and en
>>86281461>Looks like your average grifting e-thotEvery single vtuber outside of HoloEN is like that.
>>86280858
>>86281461>it doesn't count
>>86281461>your average grifting e-thotYou asked for non-holos and you got non-holos
>>86281382lig ended up picking up a lot of anti corpo (speak anti hololive too) people and with Justice those some of those people got really bitter because of CC and they secretly hope she returns to being indie
>Check /jp/>Nene is under lockdownhuh>>>/jp/47903621
>>86281461>if she mentions HoloEN she's a gritting ethot>if she doesn't mention HoloEN HoloEN has no presenceDo jpcucks really
>>86281211Damn blind retard
>>86281514>>86281534>>86281548Exactly. No one, outside of Holo and other corpos, give a single fuck about HoloEN.
NOOOO........
BAU BAU?!
>>86281596>>86281602LolLmao
guess its time to post this thenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME6TBt5g2JY&list=WL&index=21&t=9861s- Sayu says Fillian is a millionaire and was surprised Fillian was still using plastic forks- Fillian was shocked and said she wasn't a millionaire- Sayu pointed to Fillian's youtube channel and her v-tuber ranking- Fillian said it doesn't count since she wasn't part of a corpo and that her shorts don't make much money- Sayu argued that her money isn't taken away then not being in a corpo- Fillian said that she is nothing like Gura who got those deals in Taiwan/Sendai etc. while she burns through her money on headsetsfunny part about shortsheres the quote, your stamp is kinda shit>do you know how much youtube shorts makes?>they will send you like 5 pennies for 1 million views on shortsat around 2:45:25
>>86281602>nobody who isn't interested in vtubers cares about HoloENOk I agree with you. They probably don't.
>>86281617>brazilian shuba...
Grems...
>>86281077Why did this happen? Is it really from purplefag?
>>86281602
>>86281704Anon you're late by like 12 hours
>>86281639THIS IS NOT AN EVIDENCE TIME TO MOVE GOALPOSTS
RAID
CC kneels to the superior Germany!
>>86281704>/pol/verminThis isn't the phase thread
>>86281731SHADOW LEGENDS
CCRR raided Kiara, I'm out.
>>86281339
>>86281698I am amazed it took this long.>>86281639I used to watch Filian and I am pretty sure she literally said Gura is her oshi.
>>86281602what about Ludwig being subbed to Gura with notifs on? or the OTV fags vouching to get her attention?
>>86281704kys /pol/nigger
>>86281698>Doesn't actually talk about streamsSuch is the case with all your grifting e-whores
>>86281754NIJISEETHE!>also: tweets that aged badly!Pic related!
>>86281766I'm fucking IN.
>>86281704McDonarudo
youtube keeps sending me to this vtuber, what up with that
>>86281673She fucking loves that girl goddamn, maybe she really is a teamate
>>86281789
Will Kiara ever raid CC back? She's ended stream instead of raiding her a few times already.
>>86281801Yes it's nijiseethe that I don't want to see /pol/ garbage here.Fucking retard
>>86281776You know I'm actually curious how long it'd take for anyone in this thread to post an example of a jp indie gushing over hololive
>>86281801MR YAB IS IN TAIWAN??
>faster than globalYEAH, WE ALIVE # HOMIEShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfF_Lell2fsYEAH ! YEAH !
>>86281161So phase like watching homos? That would make sense with their cuck fetish, I guess.
Odds of Kiara saving ERBs numbers by raiding her or does she stream until Ame
>>86281639Ok ok fine. But other than large indies, small indies, other corpos, major flesh streamers, and the Los Angeles Dodgers, nobody cares about HoloEN.
>>86281839>Vtuber pioneersGrifter words
Give it to me straight. What are the chances of Gura graduating in the near future?
>>86281843PROVE YOU ARE NOT NIJISEETHING, POST YOUR OSHI CELEBRATING SOME SEASONAL MCDONALDS PRODUCT!>Protip: you can't
>>86280798>>86281310Ok I want to know where all the idiots constantly shitting on EN indies ran to hide during this topic.HoloJP's influence is obvious and visible in how the rest of the scene developed. Nijisanji started copying the idol formula (Selejo being the first of many attempts), VSPO started doing idol concerts, hell even big indies like Shigure Ui follow the Holo formula and have found great success with it.And as I've mentioned time and again, plenty of girls find insane boosts in success just by being superfans of HoloJP, whether it's the tanuki girl who Suisei visited, or the singer girl who's a big Aqua crew, or people in other corpos like Hoshikawa fangirling over Aqua (this can go the other way as well, Matsuri and Mayuzumi for example).EN indie culture has been influenced more by VShojo, fleshie converts, whores and dramafags. Mostly centred around VShojo, but not completely.It's mainly because HoloEN's clout (i.e. numbers) are only somewhat on par with the bigger twitch chuubas who tend to connect with the greater indie scene and spread THEIR culture around quite a lot.Holos are obviously more isolated but their culture still spreads around because they have NUMBERS.And HoloEN is still not yet at the peak of what their potential is, which is why the EN indie scene does not idolize them.
>>86281673Based Giggers
>>86281845I worded it poorly sorry. I meant I am amazed it took this long to post Mint. I instantly thought about her when I read that question.
>86281754>86281785raid evidence, nobody in the past threads reacted like this kek
It might be worth noting that most of the talents are either millennials or boomers who grew up with gendered upbringings. Back then, the line between "what girls like" and "what boys like" is much stricter. For example, girls were expected to be into fashion and homemaking, while there's cars and sports for boys. The same can be said for their sense of humor; the Stars tend to talk about toilet humor, while aside from the Yuri teases the girls' humor is tamer. Whether this is *biological* or a *result of social conditioning*, there is not much fans can do about the talents' current preferences. If the girls prefer to be with girls, and the boys with boys, that's fine.
>>86281841>KIara>Ever raiding anyoneLmao
>>86281906Zero, depending on how "near" is your "near future"
>>86281602Nobody that matters in the vtubing world gives a shit about anything but Hololive
>>86281920
>>86281900>does she stream until AmeYes.
>>86281801kek their mcdonalds collab was them probably paying to get their songs played on some mcdonalds stores + some cardboards in a few of them, btw
>>86281906Sorry I only give it gay
>>86281906No very high, she really loves the idolshit, shes just not crazy about streaming, shes like the anti-Ame
>>86281975within 6 months
>>86281937There's probably a good amount of holo inspired EN chuubas on youtube but good luck finding them, they could be solid 3views and you would never know because they are attached to some obscure German music genre algo
>>86281905>>86281789>>86281602>>86281596I called his playbook right from the get go, damn I'm good
>>86281937Phase doing idol concertsVshojo doing idol concertsNext question.
>>86281776Even I could post Doki one, and then ObokatiekatDunno whats her name and then shylily, and then- like what? Ain't gonna fill this thread with xitter post, they just move goalpost again
>>86281937>comparing twitch numbers to Youtube numbersah ah ah retard alert, if you were actually interested in making a point in good faith you could have simply mentioned that the vast majority of the JP sphere is on one platform and EN is split
>>86281966Shes 100% raiding Ame later retard
>>86281704slowpoke
>>86281937holoENfaggots can't handle the utter irrelevance of their branch. please understand.
>>86280746Does anyone met a real vsbot fan? And I don't count those exlazufags or the intern here, they just cum to their arts.
>>86281937I have zero idea of what you are talking about for two reasons1) EN Indies and even corpos (like VShojo) took on the "fleshstream, but with avatar" model.That's more an indictment on their ability to succeed (they won't, the can't compete with fleshies at their turf and twitch management will make sure of that) than on anything related to HoloEN2) The EN indie and small corpo scene DEFINITELY idolises and looks up to HoloEN and, amusingly, one of the most mentioned influences in every single debut happens to be >unfeminized Mori
>>86281776I mean you can take a look at >>86281789>>86281789>>86281905To see why nobody gives that much of a shit about engaging him in good faith
>>86281937take some extra retarded nigger to shit out that non-sense when every single indie shitter would skewer their own mothers for a chance to get in HoloEN
>>86281906I'm guessing cover won't let that happen. She gets all the money and perks(no streams) she wants to stick around.
>>86282034Then zero.
Sorry advertiser-san, I'm going all out just this once.
>>86281339>>204,313: DEV_IS (Hololive)So? was it worth it to sacrifice their individual debuts in exchange for one big live? I hope they don't do this with any other non DevIs gens
doing holo vs holo is their only chance...
>>86281937>twitch fake numbers comparable to youtube nerfed ccvkek its this retard again
>>86281937You say that like everyone doesn't gnash their teeth whenever a new debut lists mori as their inspiration on debut
>>86282047And their audience hated both of it. Phase connect was mostly Mint fans who are all idolfags. One of the Phase girls openly said they barely scraped by in terms of finances for that concert.
>>86282091>idolise
>>86282084Your shit branch got a 2k box lmfao sit down cock sucker
>>86282143What I wonder if other DEV_IS gens will also be attempts at unit focus model or will they be their own experiments
>>86280746>Less then 1k waiting room with no drop, 6.7k>Around a 3.5k waiting room wignificant drop off and recovery, 5.8kIt's such a jokeOnly way that could make any sense is if Hinano had no frame until the last minute.
>>86281639wait. so they Holos aren't millionaires? Only Gura
>>86282135No you aren't
>>86282070Are you implying that HoloEN not being on twitch is the reason they aren't being idolized?
>>86281937Anon the only ENs outside Holo who get competitive numbers are Fillian and IMSometimes also Veddal, thats about it, what the fuck are you talking about
>>86282173That is irrelevant to the argument. They still tried because HoloEN proved there is an EN audience for idol stuff thus influencing them the same way JP did.
Phase box is almost 1K
>All these twitter screencaps and no actual evidence of them talking about actually watching and supporting HoloEN at allGrimVery grim
>>86281841No, she a jealous bicth. She has several chances to raid her and she never raided CC, she even choose ERB SC reading.
>>86282231>Less than a Shu streamkek
>>86281937vshojo is more comparable to dokibird alone kek
>>86282260>not even hiding it
>>86281841>Will Kiara ever raid CC back?No. And CC will just keep on raiding her to make her look like petty bitch. Good old teutonic rivalry.
>>86282237>it doesn't count
>>86282210ToT
Is it still seething?
like 8 hours seething at HoloEN non fucking stop my negro, i don't know about shitter indies' idolization of EN but they sure are yours when you do nothing of your days but seethe about them kek
>>86282343Is it still euro hours?
>>86282216I'm going to make this post assuming you're the mong I replied to. No, that's not what I'm implying, I'm calling you at as a threadshitting mongoloid who is making no attempts to argue or discuss in good faith. I provided you the contextual argument for your position if you had been engaging in good faith. You're nothing more than a retard trying to couch his idiocy behind walls of text. There has been more than enough evidence to the contrary posted.
>>86281937>EN indie culture has been influenced more by VShojo, fleshie converts, whores and dramafags. Mostly centred around VShojo, but not completely.There's where you are wrong there's no indie vtuber culture in twitchThere's just twitch culture. They aren't really vtubers in any shape way or form they literally just do the same content everyone else does, and acts in exactly the same way but with a pngOr are you saying that pewdiepie is an indie vtuber as well? It's a meaningless statement for the most part, the en vtuber scene IS just hololive en
>>86282261chu!
>>86282360ITS ALWAYS EURO HOURS
>>86282343As long as there are replies
>>86282390Then yes
>>86282360Prime too. Like 8/9/10 pm there. It's grim
>>86282352I went to bed after ReGloss 3D live and the guy was spamming seethe about HoloEN and then I wake up 6 hours later and he’s still posting on cooldown. Absolute seething obsession, kek
>>86282367>t. has never watched any of the indies that lean heavy into the kayfabe Grim
>>86282352I warned you about the jpcucks bro
>>86281077I love pico
>600 euros
>>86282436>t. has also never watched any of the indies that lean heavy into the kayfabe since they don't exist anywayGrim
>>86282426ruining his life for what? I'm not gonna start hating holoen nor holojp KEK
>seething hours>seething about seething hoursGRIM
>>86281937the EN indie culture is just seething they didn't get in that's about it and who can blame them when outside the garden is nothing but dramafaggotry and grifting shitthere is no reasons to bother with anything that's not hololive because everything else will give you cancer aids
>euro hours are good they said
>>86282360>>86282457Ah, you ran out of arguments so you are back to this.
>>86282510>seething seething hours>seething about seething about seething hoursGRIMBALDI
>86282510(He's the shitposter)
What causes one to seethe for 8 hours straight?
Hey yo Ame where da charity stream frame
>>86282477>He doesn't know
>it's the nijifaggot that claims AI is an honorary niji shitting the thread seething at ENimagine my shock
>>86282550Can't wait for ame posts to go the way of the purple dragon
https://x.com/EmicoOtero/status/1840068025363636612https://x.com/EmicoOtero/status/1840068025363636612Fuck my eyes are watery. Using animal crossing is not fair
>>86282576pancreatic cancer sadly
>>86282457>>86282536Wait, I saw you usually at JP/SEA prime time when I do my reps. Go to sleep fliptard.
>>86282605Why cry? She's a full time streamer now :)
>>86282582>no one in fact knows since if said creatures existed they are all 2 views anyway
>>86281673I'LL WAIT, AND WHEN SHE COMES BACK I'LL SCREAM LOUDER THAN THE OTHERS GI MURIN!!!ALSO SEE AME'S STREAMSAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>86282643>euro hours
>looping againsad...
>>86282644So were FWMC. What is your point here? That they never existed at all because their audience was/is small?
>>86282706Welcome to euro hours
>86282597>86282643don't reply to me faggot.
>>86282091> That's more an indictment on their ability to succeedWhy did they do that while the JP scene mostly followed HoloEN's lead?Because some of them found success on twitch with that formula, and HoloEN did not eclipse them in popularity the same way HoloJP did to their side. You think JP doesn't have half-fleshies and converts? They just do not find success because the culture around VTubing has basically been molded by HoloJP.Ironmouse is the TOP VTuber on twitch btw, and half her streams are reaction streams, garbage commentary streams and collabs with the welsh guy.That's who most EN indies aspire to.Sure there'll be a lot of smaller chuubas that want to join Hololive, but if you express yourself as a fan of HoloEN, whether it's watching Holos or referencing them, you won't find the level of automatic success you'd get if you were a JP chuuba doing it.And hell, most such attempts end up being leech attempts, like that one Brit girl from Idol did with Gura.
>>86282741More streams for me :))))))
Kiara got raided by Kaela too. And Mozumi Pichi.
kek yuros selfreport even easier than seafags
I see almost no cuny here, I thought this was a uoh friendly thread
>>86282767>if you express yourself as a fan of HoloEN, whether it's watching Holos or referencing them, you won't find the level of automatic success you'd get if you were a JP chuuba doing it.Uto
Speaking of Euros... What I've learned about CC thus far is that she just wants to fuck bitches, drink beer and gamble. She radiates more big dick energy than whole of Homostars combined.
>>86282741Uh oh raid baby melty
>>86282720>That they never existed at all because their audience was/is small?No, that they never existed until they were in hololive
>>86282843>What I've learned about CC thus far is that she just wants to fuck bitches, drink beer and gamble.This is the median euro
>>86282793She's becoming quite the raid baby lately.
>>86282876But what about shitting up the thread?
>barely 2k zatsuG r i m
>>86282767>https://x.com/EmicoOtero/status/1840068025363636612Your comment is all over the place, I can't even parse it right despite all of it looking perfectly intelligible English. I think you lost me at "while the JP scene mostly followed HoloEN's lead?" which might be a typo and you meant HoloJP lead
>>86282767You've been arguing about this long enough, throwing tantrums and moving goalposts every time someone proves you wrongLet's try something else, post the JP indies, with averages. Surely you have the data on hand to back yourself up since you've been crying all thread. You've got 5 minutes.
>>86282767>Ironmouse is the TOP VTuber on twitch btwKek no fillian is, unless you use meme metrics or take into account 0 contextOr who do you think is more popular: Streamer one that can get 10k on their own from time to time, or streamer 2 that often fails to get 10k with 8k viewer raids?
>>86282862>ALL HAIL THE BLUE DORITO>NOTHING ELSE EXISTS BUT THE BLUE DORITO
Miko fishing with Fubuki
>>86282969liggerseethe
Oof
>>86282767>if you express yourself as a fan of HoloEN, whether it's watching Holos or referencing them, you won't find the level of automatic success you'd get if you were a JP chuuba doing it.anon do you really believe grifters and leeches dont exist in jp sphere? for every 1 succesfull leech you hear about on this thread, there 1000 other dead jp ones that youll never hear about, because they are not given any attention
>>86282969Inshayagoo
ERBros explain yourselves, what's this thumbnail?
>>86282969You are in the numbers thread in the hololive board, why are you complaining about pointing out the fact that most people only care about hololive? We literally have the numbers for it
>>86283023They're really gonna merge these niggas huh
>>86282969This but unironically
>>86282767twitch nigs look up to twitch nigs for leeching purposes, it's the very nature of the platform and that got NOTHING to do with vtubers it's the shit culture of the placewon't change the fact that everybody is looking and talking about what Hololive do
>>86283023Where's Twisty numbers? I need to check Finana and Twisty stocks.
>>86282969Yes
>>86282361I mean I get your point, "EN indie scene is fucked", "the world outside the garden is hell" etc. are common talking points on this thread.Does that not indicate that the greater indie scene didn't take that much inspiration from HoloEN?They had a road to success laid out for them but decided to seethe about it instead.We have the whole twitch vs YT numbers autism, but among the masses that shit is irrelevant. They see mouse getting like 10k or 20k doing react/sleeping/subathon streams and that's what influences them.HoloEN just isn't big enough to overcome some of these perceptional barriers in order to spread and influence that culture.JP also had a long streak of successful content, whether it's Minecraft, or Ark or Sports/Summer festivals, Rust, and now GTA.Did anyone from the EN side even talk about stuff like ENReco or the other RP storylines?Pretty sure no one from that side even knows that this happened. And that's because - again - lack of competitive numbers.
>>86283022Liggers have no soul. I like my VTubers with substance.
>still no frame for Ame's charity stream
>>86283106>niji2view
>>86283072Let me guess, the artist for the thumbnail is a homosister.
>>86282793If about 1/3 of people move over in raid, Kaelas members had 1K people.
>>86282969Now you get it good job!
>>86282767>You think JP doesn't have half-fleshies and converts? They just do not find success because the culture around VTubing has basically been molded by HoloJP.imagine being this retarded>>86282969This unironically
>>86283122None of this is related to my post, except for the part with you trying to couch your idiocy behind walls of text. Actually, now that this goes on>Walls of text with vapid content>Seething at EN regardless of evidence postedThis is arcschizo isn't it
>>86283125CC...
>>86281841Anyone else find it weird that kiara spent years begging for EU branchmates and now that she got them she really doesn't do anything with them?
>niggerfaggot really bawled his eyes for HOURS seething and malding at HoloEN using holo v holoactual brain damage on display. your fanbase division just don't work, buckbroken lil bro, you may now get some rest and sleep
>>86283122woops
>>86282969sorry liggerchama
>>86283122> And that's because - again - lack of competitive numbers.WrongIf gura was pulling 300k ccv viewers every stream everyone would talk about her regardless of "competitive numbers"You are retarded
>>86283122this nigger is using chatgpt kek
>>86282767>>86282941 (me)Time's up. Looks like you don't actually have the data to back up the claim about JP indies you've been running with all thread. Curious.
>>86283220Not now, selenfag
>miko is now fishing with fubuki
https://x.com/YahomieButters/status/1840083103605502193Look at what the unicorns did to cc
>enter the numberfag general threads>see Rajesh melty grim desu
>>86283292Holy based CC
wait until he finds out that the indie JP scene is also trash full of dramafaggotry and grifting
Wtf is this erb thumbnail?
>>86283217She only wants them if they are bigger shitters than her and kiss the ground she walks on.
>>86283292CC is perfect for this job
How do we save ERB
>>86282839Yeah I suppose at the peak of the pandemic, HoloEN WAS basically the EN VTubing scene.The thing is, times have changed. And I suppose Omega and the grim years are to blame for it, but HoloEN isn't really as big of an influence on EN chuuba culture as they were back then.
>>86283292I need the soundpost, NOW!
>>86283292classic pickme behaviour
>>86283122
>>86283292Why are there two fucking "I know what you are" clips from two different Holos
>>86283214She was never a real ligga
>>86283330proofs?
>>86283292 BASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASED TOTAL HOMO DEATH
>>86283375You know why
>Still no reservation for the 2nd Ame collab today besides the one with MumeiUh oh… looking more and more likely it’s with you know who…
>platinum tally
>>86282969
>>86283374>Pekora and Suisei event featuring the sharkI don't see your point here. holoEN has no influence on its own. They have not achieved a single notable thing in 4 years.
>>86283385Mikeneko joinning on some fucking Rust server full of indies and fleshbags running a bully train on her.
>>86282969Based and true
>>86283410With Altare?
>Several months behind on superchats to read>Leaves supers on during her superchat reading streamsWhy is erb like this she's going to end up like mori who has a backlog of supers from 2023 to read
Tbh I have no idea what you guys are even arguing about half of the time
>>86283410axel.....
>>86280532HOLY GRIMyou increase their viewership by 10 times and they'd still be 3views lmao
>>86283278Cute squid heads
>>86283410she doesn't even have her charity frame up yet
>>86283466she isn't even friend on steam with the fag anon
>>86283390This stream was amazing because in his attempts to brag he actually gave us so many details about how segregated the holostars areThe guy really thought we'd be owned by them having their own separate cuckbus and not being allowed into any building at the same time as a Holo, kek
>>86283444it keeps getting worse and worse
>>86282941Hiyori Lara, Tanuki Girl, Ui (hololite), Patra (hololite), that one purple Ninja sister I forgot the name of.All except one in 4view status, and the exception did get 4view during the peak holo interaction period.Btw this goes the opposite way as well.Ex-holo who shit on another chuuba and stole her hashtag, the victim chuuba got an INSANE boost from that incident, just because she handled it professionally.EN scene REWARDS people that engage in drama, not the opposite types.It just shows how little HoloEN has managed to influence EN indie culture.
>>86283511>Holo steam friends cope
>it's that time of again
>>86283410LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO DUBAI CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!!!!
>>86283510Isn't that charity stream supposed to be starting soonish?
>>86283540Don't bother arguing with them. holoEN fags are blind to the irrelevance of their failed branch.
>>86283292Yuri will happen, whethercyou like it or not.
ITT
>>86283540You took over ten minutes to finally reply and you postedZEROEROdataNot an image, not a vrabi link, nothingKill yourself
>>86283410>you know who…Yeah, the one who meantioned having a collab with Ame
>>86283444>8hours and counting of the retard seething at EN>>86283547What will be >your cope when your sad niggers won't be showing up to anything Ame related? why were they not playing with her yesterday?
Ceci is Reine levels of gay
>>86283057That just adds to my point, only chuubas who are honest to god actual fans with merch and shit end up getting that holo influence.It's simply not a thing in EN, that's my point.Kanata has a whole-ass Aqua shrine for example.Even within the company there's no adulation on that level, much less outside of it.
>>86283492They wish it was only 10x to get to 4view
>>86283072Her oshi mark is a lipstick and she has eyes and lips emotes
>>86283550
>>86283444>>86283590Ennacuck...
>>86283620Ceci likes little boys thoughbeit
Jesas, I went to sleep 5 hours ago and this guy was spamming the thread. Wake up and he's still going. No word from Ame?
>Aah the pepeloni, pepeloni. You know the pepeloni? The no one? I always- I always order the domino, domino pepeloni; and without pepeloni. I always order the pepeloni and without pepeloni. Pepeloni! I like pepeloni. I always- I always order the cheese-cheese pan. How can I explain? I can explain by my drawing. I always, order like the cheese pan that it has cheese on here, this part, the ear. Ear of pizza. And then I order, when I order pepeloni the ear, it always have the pepeloni on the top. But I pick up this, Away! Because I don't eat it!
>>86283096My point is that the culture developed that way because HoloEN doesn't have enough numbers(clout) to override the numbers they get from leeching.Twitch numbers are different from Youtube, sure, but for a typical normalfag it doesn't really register.
>>86283603I'm curious about something. During euro hours, what's the main EU zone that shits up the thread? Is it known?
>>86283683I read until the “doesn’t have enough numbers” and knew the rest is bullshit
kek ennacuck is back to samefagging
>>86283667The only good post ITT!!!
>>86283715>"star" of holoEN is a 12k shitter with the minecraft buffMousey and Filian can easily get more than that with just about any type of content.
>>86283667NO I REJECT THE PEPELONI
>>86283683Still no data, yet he continues to seethe and assert that his position is correct despite rejecting all evidence to the contrary. What do we call this?
it's always amusing you can make the most incendiary, baseless and dogshit statement and this thread will trip over itself to "correct" it while receiving "no u" level follow up responses
>>86283711Sweden
>>86283250Anon the whole reason HoloEN and Myth became a talking point was BECAUSE Gura had insane numbers, both in subs AND in streams.Fucking 100k karaokes, 190k outfit reveals, just dominated the entire industry so much that VShojo, twitch indies etc. were never even a talking point at the time.Current EN just does not have the numbers(clout) for that kind of domination.
>>86283683Your point is wrong because :>small corpos still try to dip their toes in idol stuff (Vshojo/Phase)>JP indies are not all Holo lite>EN indies are not all vshojo lite (Mint)
>>86283786Retard read the post againthen kys
Shiori cute, do not look at the top one though jesas christ.
>>86283793Mint is literally a vsj+. She'll probably follow the GEEGA route within a year.
Every gacha general on /vg/ house a Holo fanbase, this is an actual thing
>>86282969>NOTHING ELSE EXISTS BUT THE BLUE DORITOthis is unironically true for me why i consume a product that I like knowing that it's a jungle outside, i started with indie and even small corpos(unironically use to watch clips) but now I am 100% in holo and literally I am not interested in what happens outside BAU BAU
>>86283711No clue but I remember this being a topic of discussion once
They all look up to HoloEN because they have no choise, they are all at the bottom lol>>86283683Nigger retard it went that because this is the way of twitch and guess what even grifter prime Iron Whore made a shit Idol concert, every fucking big indie twitch nigger talked about ENsTwitch is Twitch they'll always have this retarded mindset, you're a buffoon and a fag your father was drinking turpentine when he impregnated your dumb mother>>86283748>le twitch numbers
>>86283786Gura leeched off JP. This isn't news.
I'll go hiking in the niji mountains
>>86282969Yes you are starting to understand
>>86283711>600 eurosThe frogs are to blame
>>86283711Poland.
>>86283605the people I posted are pretty well known here, but I suppose these are EU hours
>>86283805what did the retard do?
>>86283818Vshojo is full of idol fans? Good to know HoloEN influenced all the scene then.
>>86283838>skippa SKIPPA
>>86283767I haven't tried correcting anyone. After a while all schizos become white noise to me
>>86283888Very ugly picture of him falling that's being "memed". It's even worse now because a Niji actually direclty @ the fucker of an edit of the image
Myth built EN vtubing. It doesn't matter if there were few before them. The rest of HoloEN are blessed by Myth so they are untouchable. That's it.
>>86283834I'm kinda like you except there's one indie who I like a lot. Otherwise, IRyS.
Nerissa was, at one time, gaining more subs per week than FWMC and slowly closing the gap. Anyone have a non-troll answer to wtf happened?
>>86283879He's an arab it's always some shade of brown in the end
>>86283890> Vshojo is full of idol fa-AAAAAAACK
>>86283875Ah I see you have traversed to the sacred Niji mountains my good sir. I tip my niji tophat to you, m'Anon.
What ever happened to /jp#/ anyway? Did that guy really get run out of his own thread by homos and 2 views?
>>86283885Text on an imageboard is not data, it's 'dude trust me'. Just admit that you hate EN, because posts like >>86283786 make it really fucking obvious
Enter HEROES
>>86283928ENshit fell off. Raden will beat FWMC to 1 million subs.
>>86282969vt is literally a board built for holochads to bully everyone else into submissionThe funniest thing is that by coming here to get cucked publicly like that you've already lost as you are the parasocial incel that feels the need to protect people that LITERALLY AND VOCALLY don't give a shit about you in the slightest, are a dime a dozen and will never accomplish anything in their lives outside of >stream fotm game get paid
>>86283942I guess she's more Holo aligned then.
>>86283968subs matter now?
Replace a letter in corpo name with BHobolive Bshojo BSPOBijisanji
>>86283983>still seething
>>86283818Her content is very much not "twitch culture", no matter who she is friends with.
100k possible?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyaz5VVekCY
>>86284035That is Americas ass.
enter
Nijien management doesn't give a fuck anymore. There's also rumors of a group collab that's going to happen with an ex nijien
>kiara raid retentionchattini are so obedient, imagine how easy it would be to rape them
>>86283951Wonderful niji tophat you have there, very steep and natty I must say
>>86284011>Her content is very much not "twitch culture"t. Has never watched mint beforeShe is peak twitch and reddit imo its great
>>86283956I'm just gonna summarize what I'm trying to say here> 1st year of Myth was pretty big, but as competition cropped up, their numbers faltered> Current holoEN does not have as big of numbers/events as JP does, and therefore has less cultural impact on the EN VTuber scene> If Gura still had 100k karaokes and if holoEN had big box events that produced NUMBERS, they would still have influence in the EN indie sphere, like HoloJP doesNumber = clout = cultural impact.On /#/ this argument is irrefutable no matter how much you cope about relativity, muh twitch v YT etc.
>>86283683meanwhile Filian,:>THE ULTIMATE SPELLING BEE
>>86283928She doesn't have any more family members to bait subs with and she keeps taking vacations. She's streamed the least of any Advent member in the last 4 months.
>>86284116t. HolyKoshi
>>86284113Sorry for asking but is this perhaps…doxxing on main?
>>86284116>chattini are so obedient, imagine how easy it would be to rape themt.
>>86284113That much was obvious with Kunai literally following Sunny on the corp account.
>>86284131>but as competition cropped up, their numbers falteredIncorrect, competition didn't crop upDidn't read rest of the post as the starting premise is completely incorrect
>>86284116thats the side effect of being raped daily by their mamma
What will the cope be when Amelia's graduation fails to even hit 50k CCV?
KNEEL
>>86284113>There's also rumors of a group collab that's going to happen with an ex nijien>>86284152>doxxing on main?grim
>>86283906>I haven't tried correcting anyoneYou should try correcting this brat
To me this is twitch culture. Just streaming for the fun of it, and playing games just for the fun of it.
This has to be a sister falseflagging as a retarded ligger right? They couldn't possibly be this stupid.
>>86284232>mindholing the cullcatalogpigs disgust me
>>86284271That is a male.
>>86284131Nobody who was around for 2020 believes your AU fanfiction
>>86284316Even better
>>86284131Post data you illiterate JPmonkey. Here, I'll post some for you.Oh wow! It looks like not even your argument about EN numbers holds water! You're actually just vomitting all over the thread despite having no idea what you're talking about! Amazing!
>>86284291There's enough evidence of liggers going into holothreads and shitting them up
>>86284232What cope? Is anyone actually expecting some huge numbers for her not-graduation after this weeks numbers? Everyone and their mother in Hololive keeps saying "see you again".
>>8628427110 hours of civilization 6, with no pause? Yeah, thanks for doxxing me
>>86284291liggers use twitch, they are pretty stupid
>>86284316Ew
>>86284291they really are that stupid
>>86284354especially since Justice debuted
https://youtu.be/A6A1Jlb2jZshttps://youtu.be/A6A1Jlb2jZshttps://youtu.be/A6A1Jlb2jZs
>>86284271Post this in twitch chat or any forum related to twitch and watch people laugh you out for being a newfag that doesn't watch twitch
>>86284116Kiara just saw it and said the same thing lolwell, without the rape
>>86284291The bottom ones at least are that stupid.
Collabs are Mumei and Gurahttps://x.com/watsonameliaEN/status/1840113604013547567
>>86284400where is...
>>86284376>samefagging grim desu
>>86284291This is unironically archschizo having a meltdown about EN again for some reason. The massive walls of text with little substance match his MO
>>86284271holoEN could never
>>86282969this but unironically
>>86284447Finally, ggg can have some peace.
>>86283928non-troll answer: lowered content output caused by recording the EPmost likely hoped the EP gonna pop off harder, considering it's the most comprehensive and one of the most quality music releases in HoloENthe problem is that it released like a week before Phantomime
>>86284447AAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEE WHY SAYING HER NAME???? IT BURNS STOOOOP
>>86284271Every day I dream about Clio’s feminine penis slapping against my stomach while they ride my cock
>>86284225Other chuubas in EN have comparable numbers to holoEN anonno one in the JP scene have bigger numbers than the biggest JP holos
Kiara raiding erb soon
>>86284131The best # case against this is that the only small EN corpos with any kind of numerical success—Phase, Idol, V4, and early NijiEN—are HoloEN variants (faulty) and their talents are HoloEN fans.They are "the scene" (corporate).
>>86284552Ui does
>>86284447Prepare your grudge posts
>>86284552Really? Name some chuubas with comparable numbers to Gura.
>>86284475Ame is trying her best.>>86284406That's what https://www.twitch.tv/directory is for.There is literally no such thing as "twitch culture"
>>86284505Hasn't ggg just been posting burgers whole day? Last time i checked because someone said it was melting down it had like 150 images of gura eating a burger
>final gura/ame collab>will probably be sub-30k CCVgrim days for holoEN. this would have had a 50k floor back when holoEN was still popular.
>>86284546>feminine >penisanon...
>>86284524She recorded the EP prior to her sub growth slowing down. She only recorded one of the songs in Japan, so 2/4 were recorded before May and one was recorded long before April.> it's the most comprehensive and one of the most quality music releases in HoloENDelusional.
>>86284636It was bad yesterday.
>>86284621CookieSwirl gets more video views in one month than the shark has gotten in her entire "career". Filian has more than 3x the shark's total video views too.
>>86284639blame NijiEN for making everyone hate vtubers
>>86284349One buff event doesn't overtake regular numbers anon.The HoloEN numbers also partially come from JP tourists. HoloJP is influential enough to give even EN numbers a boost just from that association.That's what cultural impact means.
>>86284630erm actuallytwitch culture is when raids and sleepathons and hype trains
>>86284700CHU
>>86284291There was one in /who/ earlier today >>86255484 they are pretty retarded
>>86284447oh no ennacuck your last rrat...
>Gura doko?stfu now
>>86284746Wait, I thought the JPbox had no interest in EN. Which one is it?
>>86284621Pretty much everyone since most of them actually stream.Gura's fans treating her like Ayame doesn't mean she has the same level of clout she did during her heydey.
>>86284447NOOOOOO OUR ANGLEGOD DAMN IT
AME FUCKING HATES THE OCEAN IS THIS BECAUSE GURA IS THROWING A TANTRUM AND GHOSTING HER
>Rajesh astroturfs >Rajesh melty I raughed
>>86284799On the 28th, the 29th, and maybe the 30th
I just realize Ame situation is akin to putting her into a cryochamber
I think Irys has one of the sexiest voices in holo i will put mori in the most unsexi voice if there was an topmy top sexi voices will look like thisIrys FaunaKronii(what a waste)>>>>>>>>MumeiGuraFuwamocoNerisa>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>InaBibo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MoriAmeShiori
10K people watching EU Holos read supas vs. others.
>>86284583Most of their audiences seethe at HoloEN instead of idolizing them anon.
>>86284873You're forgetting Haachama buddy. She's called Gen 0 for a reason.
>>86284746Amazing cope. Still no data. Still no knowledge of what you're speaking of. Still no attempt to explain why you feel the need to run your mouth when you don't know anything. Sit down and either shut the fuck up or post something that actually proves your point. But you won't, because you can't, because all available data is against you, otherwise you would post it.
>>86284858>Wake me up when you need me
>>86284718That and the twitch thots doning the vtuber title.When holocure blew up, you can clearly see that majority of non JP people only know the kind of vtubers that yo use on twitch, and they all cringe at it.it's like street whores calling themselves idols and when you ask a random americanut what an idol is, they think crack whores.
>>86284801oh fuck off Cathy Newman
Wtf is this dynamic
>biboo MW Thank God theres something besides ame to watch tonight
>>86284824>Gawr Gura June's average 20k>Ironmouse this month's (her most buffed month) average 9kNah holo wins. Also, fun fact Fauna's average this month is higher than Mouse.
https://youtu.be/k8tgS84QDXo>Subaru: I watched lots of NijiGTA Police clips.>Subaru: Eh, no one is slacking offww.>Subaru: Our Police station is the weird one.
>>86284799All that time spent seething and shitposting wasted. All that time lost, like tears in rain.
>>86284873>Ina that lowimagine her voice trembling while acting bored in bed
-> UFC 193 SPY HERERonda Rousey made a major scene and dissed Holly Holm! Good thing she can't lost this, I bet my entire monthly paycheque on her, Ronda will grind Holly Holm to a pulp!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64y0xv_bb-I<- UFC 193 SPY OUT!
>>86284824Really? Who's an indie that got a collab with a major baseball league? What about in a popular game ip like fnaf?Several concerts this year as well? Surely there's tons of them since ou are speaking so confidently
>>86284639>Probably
Why can't holoEN fans just accept that vtubing has moved on from their vtubers?
Why can't you retard just accept that your mom has moved on from your dad?
>Rajesh melty grim desu
>>86285048Moved where? ... >>86284881
>>86285011As always, betting against the top shark is a foolish endeavour indeed
>>86285041Going by her god awful graduation tour numbers, sub-30k is expected, yes.
>leaves her last collab to her girlfriendcute
ENfags can seethe all they want, doesn't change the sad reality of their numbers, or the reality of the EN scene not idolizing them (other than pandemic-era Myth) due to them not having numbers.
>>86285117and the JPnigger mask finally comes off
I have moved on from this thread
>>86284546/lig/ talks about obkatiekats penis being feminine but that one is quite large and masculine
>>86285094thats my dick btw
>>86284873I remember first hearing Fauna and Kronii and thinking wow that's what a vtuber should sound like
>>86285048holoEN is the only en vtubing option
>>86285035God I love watching women get beat.
AIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MY MASK IS FALLING OFF
>>86285040HoloEN being bigger than the rest of the scene was never in question you fucking retard.My point is that they're not big ENOUGH to the point where they can passively influence the culture of the rest of the scene.
Nigga Japanese can bold their text???
>>86285219>>86283793
Final amesame ccv predictions?
>>86285151see you tomorrow
>>86285035>holly holm>holmwait is she a swede or a burger swede
>>862852671 ERBillion ccv
>>86285198pull it back
>>86285219the twitch vtubing box is far bigger than the holoENbox, especially if you remove JPbox tourists from holoEN's numbers.
>>86285196I'm usually not into it but this time ... man, Ronda deserved a good ass kicking
>>86285219and yet everyone is still doing concerts.nigga stop. they might not suck holoen dics but they reluctantly follow them becasue they dictate what vtuber is about.
>>86285196lunaito.....
>>86285219>My point is that they're not big ENOUGH to the point where they can passively influence the culture of the rest of the sceneNo it wasn't.>>86281937>It's mainly because HoloEN's clout (i.e. numbers) are only somewhat on par with the bigger twitchYour point was that EN is only as big as the top twitch streamers. And you're wrong, you have continued to be wrong, and you will be wrong for the forseeable future UNLESS YOU POST SOME FUCKING DATA
>>8628526727k. the EN vtubing audience moved on from holoEN a long time ago.
>>86285151>announcing its departure
>>86285318Likely the later. >>86285343Anon, ironmouse highest stream was 45k and sh only got beaten by Opera GX vtuber with embeds and the LATAM Nimu with flesh doxx buff
https://x.com/akinko_300/status/1836676607550837144?s=46&t=vAuMk6FVLkrJxgLS90A6gw>Lunlun is hanging out with KuzuhaI SHIP
Fucking kek, Ame
>>86285361>>86285035>>86285196fuck off UFC niggerswe only like WWE here (the REAL fighting sport)
>>86285219Nearly all of the bigger small corpos are on youtube dabbling in idol stuff and cute girls, there is a plethora of vtubers debuting with Ina/mori etc with their oshis. There are tons of small indies all trying to pad out their resumes for Holo.
>>86285343lol
idol stuff sucks desu
Now that the dust has settled, Bae has spent 3 (THREE) minutes sending Ame off, skipped most of ENReco, while not missing any JP events.
>>86285515>single JPbox-boosted event
>>86282091> unfeminized MoriI mean, Mori was successful, which is why she was looked up to.But it's not like anyone post-2023 really followed Mori, they just followed her at her EN success peak. Most of her newer projects have been JP oriented and not very well known in EN.
>>86285562>not very well known in ENProof?
>>86285449>ironmouse highest stream was 45kAnd that was in 2022, she never got close to that again
>>86285492>Nearly all of the bigger small corpos are on youtube dabbling in idol stuff and cute girlsThey're all dabbling in HOMO COLLABS
>>86280374Recent clip numbers>>86257119>>86257208>>86257309
>>86285551>single twitchbox-boosted event
>eurokek deadhours >not being deadwho are you people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Ufi2lU7SIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Ufi2lU7SIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Ufi2lU7SI
>>86285551
>Youtube won't let me search for Mori's song because it thinks i'm trying to kill myself
>>86285377> and yet everyone is still doing concerts.Because HoloJP got huge numbers from their biannual concerts lmaoHoloEN didn't even have regular concerts until about a year ago.
>>86285626Doesn't count, all JOPS know English at a conversational level and are able to understand English language based humor
>>86280374* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *>204,313: DEV_IS (Hololive)>76,090: Miko (Hololive)>46,174: Fubuki (Hololive)>45,858: Botan (Hololive)>35,900: Subaru (Hololive)>32,256: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>30,774: Subaru (Hololive)>27,759: Pekora (Hololive)>27,607: Amelia (Hololive)>27,317: Korone (Hololive)>25,834: Ange (Nijisanji)>18,997: Akira (Nijisanji)>18,824: Chiroru (Indie)>18,808: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>16,700: Subaru (Hololive)>14,486: Fubuki (Hololive)>14,119: Koyori (Hololive)>13,683: Towa (Hololive)>12,600: Meika (Indie)>12,586: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>11,972: Chaika (Nijisanji)>11,879: Koyori (Hololive)>11,865: Kanata (Hololive)>11,734: Mio (Hololive)>10,681: QueueTan (Indie)>10,538: AZKi (Hololive)
>>86285626Can you please stop posting factual proof and start vague posting? That's the only language they understand
>>86285626>needed all of holoEN to barely beat mousey's 45k
>>86285467Did Ame misread the time or did Mumei fuck up
>>86285692>>86285146
Wait, Suisei and King have the same outfit
>>86285678>all JOPS know English at a conversational level and are able to understand English language based humorSurely you jest.
>>86285615
>>86285644very much a skill issue
>>86285692>Connor Hasan and QTcinderella are weaker than HoloEN
>>86285542JP rat is based
>>86285665holoEN's concert numbers are pathetic too. breaking dimensions barely got 30k for the first day an barely got 20k for the second day. Ironmouse can beat that on her own.
>>86285692that was 2 years ago
>>86285730what is that style even supposed to be?
>>862857013 hours is soon.
>>86285340sex
>>86285691pfft who needs proof I'm just gonna assert my position ad nauseam all over the thread and when confronted with evidence to the contrary I'll ignore it and assert my position harder (without proof)
This is some great retention considering people are only watching her read supas, either chattinis are kfp or kfps are chattinis
>>86285775Dunno but I know for sure it pander to fujo, I call it the Genshin faggot style
>>86280374*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN COPE TALLY*>09/28 TALLY (1.000 - 4.999)4.883: Kiara (Hololive) | The Legend of Zelda: EoW3.915: Shiori (Hololive) | Team Fortress 2 HoloEN Collab3.454: Dokibird (Indie) | Apex Legends2.376: Dokibird (Indie) | Freddi Fish and the Case of the Missing Kelp Seeds2.330: Shu (Nijisanji) | Pico Park 2 Collab1.781: Shu (Nijisanji) | Valorant1.445: Sonny (Nijisanji) | Street Fighter 61.294: Pippa (Phase-Connect) | Variety Stream1.240: Uki (Nijisanji) | Crime Scene Cleaner1.178: Luca (Nijisanji) | Minecraft1.074: Rosemi (Nijisanji) | Just Cooking1.057: Muyu (Phase-Connect) | Voices of the Void1.017: Bettel (Holostars) | Just Chatting
>>86285615Subhumans came back from their vacations
>>86285424Here.All these are "events", sure, but most regular JP events get somewhere 80k and 100k, which would show up here.JP GTA's reaction streams had 90k.JP Sponsorships streams have had 40k.JP Gacha rolling streams have had 100k.All of them would regularly show up in this table, alongside top streamers.EN simply does not have those level of numbers.Idk why you guys are coping so hard about that.
>>86285615nijisis btw
>>86285769yeah sure
>>86285551ironmonmouse got like 30 raids there kek
>>86285377>they might not suck holoen dics >uh oh
If Amelia's final collab with the shark doesn't hit at least 50k, we know holoEN is in a death spiral.
>>86285839>EN COPE GOLDS FOR SEPTEMBER 20241) Bae (Hololive) - 4.933 - Just Chatting2) IRyS (Hololive) - 4.739 - ENigmatic Recollection3) Shu (Nijisanji) - 4.820 - Sponsored Stream4) Gigi (Hololive) - 4.950 - ENigmatic Recollection5) Gigi (Hololive) - 4.928 - Just Chatting6) Elizabeth (Hololive) - 4.867 - ENigmatic Recollection7) Raora (Hololive) - 4.610 - Minecraft w/ Cecilia, Kaela, Matsuri, Towa8) Calli (Hololive) - 4.301 - ENigmatic Recollection9) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 2.922 - Breaking Dimensions Watchalong10) Meloco (Nijisanji) - 3.737 - ASMR Stream11) Shiori (Hololive) - 4.706 - Black Myth: Wukong12) Kiara (Hololive) - 4.836 - Luigi's Mansion 2 HD13) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 4.842 - Elite Exorcist Miko14) Mint (Indie) - 4.190 - Karaoke Stream15) Gigi (Hololive) - 4.982 - Sheepy: A Short Adventure16) Mint (Indie) - 3.301 - Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem17) Mint (Indie) - 4.876 - Fears to Fathom: Woodbury Getaway18) Dokibird (Indie) - 4.776 - Pico Park 2 w/ AmaLee, Bao, Juniper, Limealicious, Mint, Rin, Snuffy19) Cecilia (Hololive) - 4.384 - Black Myth: Wukong20) Kiara (Hololive) - 4.527 - Balatro21) Dokibird (Indie) - 3.827 - Sponsored Stream22) IRyS (Hololive) – 3.919 - holoGTA23) Cecilia (Hololive) – 4.886 – holoGTA24) Kronii (Hololive) – 4.389 - Just Chatting25) Pippa (Phase-Connect) - 4.277 -Variety Stream26) Raora (Hololive) – 4.896 - Don't Starve Together w/ Kronii27) Shiori (Hololive) – 4.858 - Just Studying28) Kiara (Hololive) – 4.883 - The Legend of Zelda: EoW
>>86285602Arguably that's from HoloEN's influence as well, it just seems like EN indies are a year or two behind in following trends.
Ironkeks... this is getting embarrasingdon't you ever get tired of being BTFO'd ?
>>86285478SHE SHOULD HAVE TOUCHED GLOVES!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIK6ALz3cX0
>>86285876kek mask off
>um actually HoloEn is bad and dyingthis thread has been like this for 2 hours now. you ok bro?
>>86285615YABman leftover schizos
>>86285853Uh hello? vtubers? This is the vtuber board, why are you posting fleshies? Did you think this was going to help your position that HoloEN wasn't bigger than Twitch vtubers????? You've lost the plot clown. I posted Ironmouse's highest peak this year, which you handwaved away despite being infinitely more relevant than whatever the fuck you just posted. I accept your concession.
>>86285984holoEN has been on a steady recline since day 1. Just look at their rolling 365 day average CCV chart.
>>86285853Are you drunk?
>>86285906If the Phase whatever just started right now, doesn't hit 10K, Phase is done.
>>86280374SEPTEMBER 2024 holoID>1) 1,144: Anya (Granblue Fantasy: Relink)>2) 4,567: Kaela (Tavern Manager Simulator)>3) 3,483: Kaela (Honor of Kings)>4) 3,386: Kobo (Honor of Kings)>5) 2,385: Kaela (Tavern Manager Simulator)>6) 5,377: Kaela (Minecraft)>7) 6,315: Reine (NEW OUTFIT)>8) 1,722: Risu (Coral Island)*>9) 15,999: Reine (3D Birthday Live)>10) 4,669: Kaela (Captain Tsubasa: Rise of New Champions)>11) 4,826: Reine (DRAWING COLLAB w/ Gigi)>12) 3,214: Kaela (RUNGORE)>13) 4,092: Kaela (Lethal Company w/ CCGG)>14) 3,193: Kaela (EA SPORTS FC 24)>15) 4,098: Kobo (BeAT x Kobo Kanaeru)>16) 2,438: Risu (M.M.M.)>17) 2,195: Ollie (holoGTA day1)>18) 6,279: Kaela (Shogun Showdown)>19) 2,826: Kaela (Shogun Showdown)>20) 4,834: Ollie (OMUSUBI)>21) 1,936: Ollie (holoGTA DAY5)>22) 3,606: Anya (HoloGTA DAY6)>23) 2,842: Zeta (Guerilla Zatsudan)>24) 4,180: Kaela (Lethal Company)>25) 4,327: Kaela (Paincore w/ Kronii)>26) 1,931: Risu (Two Point Campus)>27) 3,378: Kaela (Honor of Kings)>28) 3,294: Zeta (Gary’s Mod)> PER STREAMER13x: Kaela3x: Reine, Ollie, Risu2x: Kobo, Anya, Zeta
>>86285984I left a bit after the regloss 3D show to play Map painters and he was already at it back then.
>>86283410KNEEL
She has about the same people watching her read supas today as she did yesterday playing undertale, guess she has a pretty loyal 3-4k, which is atleast better than shiori
>>86284927australians have the most hideous and unsexy accent, this is why bae and hachama are out of my top
>>86286021If you were literate enough you would have seen that it's actually inclining. But I'm probably talking to a bot
>>86286021sure ennacuck
>>86285683SEPTEMBER 2024 GOLD>1) 107,848: Hololive (Hololive) Holo Summer Bingo lottery [29]>2) 60,469: Miko (Hololive) Koemane King [23]>3) 69,212: Subaru (Hololive) Chained Together w/ Miko [19]>4) 42,818: Miko (Hololive) Happy Announcement [19]>5) 40,548: Miko (Hololive) 7days to die Holo7DTD Finale [20]>6) 68,007: Rika (Nijisanji) 3D LIVE [17]>7) 155,940: Hololive (Hololive) 3D LIVE Gen0 [23]>8) 92,975: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Important Announcement [30]>9) 54,530: Miko (Hololive) SUIKAWA LEAD [20]>10) 47,850: Hololive DEV_IS (Hololive) ReGLOSS 1st Anniversary [20]>11) 47,854: Mio (Hololive) Holomem boke-tsukkomi chart [20]>12) 86,852: Miko (Hololive) Koemane King w/ Fubuki [14]>13) 61,436: Miko (Hololive) Best of hand-drawn clipshow [12]>14) 91,258: Miko (Hololive) Holomem ranking w/ FubuMiko [25]>15) 132,300: Marine (Hololive) Important Announcement + New 3D model reveal!? [27]>16) 94,497: Subaru (Hololive) 6th Anniversary totsumachi [27]>17) 54,796: Miko (Hololive) holoGTA day1 [21]>18) 85,775: Miko (Hololive) holoGTA NEWS [23]>19) 83,699: Suisei (Hololive) holoGTA NEWS [18]>20) 86,288: Miko (Hololive) holoGTA NEWS [24]>21) 93,084: Suisei (Hololive) holoGTA NEWS>22) 108,427: Suisei (Hololive) holoGTA NEWS>23) 123,580: Miko (Hololive) holoGTA NEWS>24) 108,506: Fubuki (Hololive) holoGTA clip watching>25) 98,715: Pekora (Hololive) holoGTA clip watching>26) 90,347: Miko (Hololive) holoGTA clip watching>27) 62,925: Meruto (Nijisanji) 3D debut>28) 204,313: DEV_IS (Hololive) ReGloss 3D debut> PER COMPANY25x: Hololive3x: Nijisanji> PER STREAMER12x: Miko3x: Suisei2x: Hololive, Subaru1x: Rika, Nijisanji, DEV_IS, Mio, Marine, Fubuki, Pekoram Meruto, DEV_IS
>>86286075It's Nijinigs
>>86285620Graduate.
>>86286170How things have changed...
>>86286153There aren't that many of them left.
NovemberDEV_IS gen 2
>only 1 niji organ made tally on the 26thKEKAPOOPY
>>86285620Kobo....
Who would win? Couple of Holos reading supas or Phase revealing 3D chibis?
>>86285644Why are you pretending to be a hermanos?
>>86286302You can't talk about them doing 3D chibis because they aped that idea from EN
>>86285683SEPTEMBER 2024 SILVER>1) 92,146: Miko (Hololive) Gen0 collab + announcement>2) 48,526: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft holoserver tour>3) 44,784: Miko (Hololive) 7days to die #Holo7DTD>4) 36,591: Miko (Hololive) Koemane King>5) 40,035: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) The k4sen FF14>6) 52,107: Lauren (Nijisanji) New outfit>7) 59,914: Hololive (Hololive) HoloPro 7th anniversary>8) 50,503: Miko (Hololive) Holo Hardcore Minecraft w/ Fubuki, Okayu, Suisei, Lui Day2>9) 43,189: Gura (Hololive) 2.0 REVEAL>10) 33,862: Miko (Hololive) Doraemon dorayakiyasan monogatari>11) 39,433: Marine (Hololive) The Bathhouse Re: w/ Koyori>12) 25,390: Lauren (Nijisanji) STREET GRAFFITI ROLE PLAY>13) 60,005: Roco (Nijisanji) 3D debut>14) 58,666: Subaru (Hololive) BIG3 Koemane King>15) 95,815: Miko (Hololive) holoGTA explanation>16) 59,546: Ibrahim (Nijisanji) VCR Minecraft>17) 44,314: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCR Minecraft>18) 51,682: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCR Minecraft>19) 40,444: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCR Minecraft>20) 65,386: Akari (Nijisanji) 3D reveal>21) 40,085: Subaru (Hololive) holoGTA Day 5>22) 44,336: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Fresh vs. veteran Quiz Show>23) 86,099: Hibari (Nijisanji) Birthday 3D Live >24) 94,788: Miko (Hololive) HoloGTA clip watching>25) 38,954: Miko (Hololive) Among Us>26) 55,933: Marine (Hololive) HoloGTA clip watching>27) 62,925: Meruto (Nijisanji) 3D debut>28) 42,299: Chiroru (Indie) Baseball>29) 76,090: Miko (Hololive) HoloGTA clip watching> PER COMPANY16x: Hololive11x: Nijisanji1x: Indie> PER STREAMER10x: Miko4x: Kuzuha2x: Lauren, Subaru, Marine1x: Hololive, Gura, Roco, Ibrahim, Akari, Nijisanji, Chiroru
