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>>86452780and vspo has the chat speed of 1/10 their ccv, so yes keeping 20% from the embeds is still better
>>86452947Me on the right.
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking>https://vt.poi.cat/Hololive sites>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/>https://holosongs.com/>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber>https://www.nijiuta.com/Twitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/>https://streamscharts.com/
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zUF-RPFb5P0Kanade clipped it herself.
Pavoliatomos are aght sometimes
>>86452947Holy sex
/#/ it's time to decide what the twitch to YT convertion rate is
>>86452747vspo aren't botted according to vstats, their vod views and their clip views. they just have very low engagement in general like a lot of casual streamers
>>86453020Fuck you
>>86453015Are Grems here now? Where has GG been?
>>864530443T is 1Y
>>86453020FUCK YOU
>Only 25k with graduation buffEven tourists do not give a fuck about ENHolo is dead in the west
So what did we learn from the last thread anon
>>86452887>Multiple rage bait streams>Still no 5kShe's looking forward to the end of the election, isn't she? kek
>>86453044Twitch numbers are irrelevant
Queen of EN Ironmouse is going for the rank 1 twitch subs. She might do it
>>86451523There's already an anon doing a corrected tally, it's not perfect but there's only the odd days which end up being debatable
>>86453057
so we are just not going to have an ame op huh
>>86453090it is 25k plus 12k
>>86452947We love little girls here in /#/.
>>86452947
>>86453057>according to vstats
>>86453101Fauna is second only to Gura.
>>864530442 YT = 1 TYT shitters have no purchasing power
>>86453101we may be on the verge of a glorious new era.Now we just need a solution to the homotranny menace and the long, invisible war may finally be brought to an end
>>86453044>>86452842>okay, time to decide what's the convertion rate /#/I'll forever mock whatever retard that even entertains the idea of comparing what cannot be compared directly by using a metric pulled out of their collective asses
>>86453057Isn't Vstats partnered up with streamcharts? Anything they say is worthless.
>>86453125When you say going for, she is adding what?
>>86453090king is dead kek
>>86453125HoloEn could never
>>86453057>like a lot of casual streamers
I'm going to be part of EN5, trust me anons
>>86453020Why hasn't the government stopped your sinful hands
>>86453210>YT shitters have no purchasing powerHow many gifted subs?
>>86453161praise be
>Kiara: I've never been to OktoberfestAryan pass revoked
>>86453145That better not be a complaint about having a Gura OP.
>>8645304410 T = 1 YTVery obvious
>>86453273EN5 is going to be grim as fuck, has all of justice made it to 300k subs yet?
>>86453111>EVIL "X" DOES "Y"and then some people ask why her fans are so toxic. They are dramafags that live only to hate.
>>86453273tits?
>>86453145Next one.
>>86453101The only one that can hurt holo is holostars
Gura...
>>86453273Post tits.
>>86453331yes
>>86453125awww she's crying.
>>86453145Ame's hand is in the OP though
>Kiara don't know the origins of oktoberfesthow
>>86453236Wasn’t she like a 2-3k shitter when she tried streaming on YT? Then she gave up and ran back to twitch.
>>86453273PLEASE MARRY ME [FUTURE EN MEMBER], I KNOW YOU ARE HERE
*FINAL EN COPE TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>09/30 TALLY (1.000 - 4.999)3.038: Rie (Phase-Connect) | New Outfit Reveal2.595: Shiina (Phase-Connect) | Dustborn2.470: Bettel (Holostars) | Who's Your Daddy? w/ Bettel 22.277: Ruze (Holostars) | Birthday Stream2.164: Tenma (Phase-Connect) | Thank Goodness You're Here!2.122: Rie (Phase-Connect) | New Outfit After Party2.032: Jelly (Phase-Connect) | Bloons TD 61.990: Ruze (Holostars) | Birthday Unarchived Karaoke1.283: Panko (Phase-Connect) | Handcam Stream1.142: Octavio (Holostars) | Unarchived Karaoke Stream
>mousey 80k (adjusted for youtube)>shark 25kIt's not even a fight
>>86453125that's like a quarter of the swimmers she got in her eyes
What is YouTube even doing?
>>86453375Oh shit she didDORYAAAAAAAA
>>86453125that thing is hideous
>>86453384damn, she's pulling out all the stops! maybe she'll go to sleep next!
Kiara said niggers
They really just want to make discussion here impossible.
>>86453364no please on the miniscule off chance that anon is an aspiring EN5 we don't need a holo equivalent of /b/omu
>>86453125>most hype thing ever in her career>still loosing>her latest personal best is stuck in 2022
>Monkey dance>That's how diggers celebrateKIARA NO
It's crazy that 2 gens later and EN hasn't debuted a girl as funny or half as naturally charismatic as gura or kronii
>>86453397She was kek. Also remember the $100k concert
>>86453425>EN COPE GOLDS FOR SEPTEMBER 20241) Bae (Hololive) - 4.933 - Just Chatting2) IRyS (Hololive) - 4.739 - ENigmatic Recollection3) Shu (Nijisanji) - 4.820 - Sponsored Stream4) Gigi (Hololive) - 4.950 - ENigmatic Recollection5) Gigi (Hololive) - 4.928 - Just Chatting6) Elizabeth (Hololive) - 4.867 - ENigmatic Recollection7) Raora (Hololive) - 4.610 - Minecraft w/ Cecilia, Kaela, Matsuri, Towa8) Calli (Hololive) - 4.301 - ENigmatic Recollection9) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 2.922 - Breaking Dimensions Watchalong10) Meloco (Nijisanji) - 3.737 - ASMR Stream11) Shiori (Hololive) - 4.706 - Black Myth: Wukong12) Kiara (Hololive) - 4.836 - Luigi's Mansion 2 HD13) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 4.842 - Elite Exorcist Miko14) Mint (Indie) - 4.190 - Karaoke Stream15) Gigi (Hololive) - 4.982 - Sheepy: A Short Adventure16) Mint (Indie) - 3.301 - Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem17) Mint (Indie) - 4.876 - Fears to Fathom: Woodbury Getaway18) Dokibird (Indie) - 4.776 - Pico Park 2 w/ AmaLee, Bao, Juniper, Limealicious, Mint, Rin, Snuffy19) Cecilia (Hololive) - 4.384 - Black Myth: Wukong20) Kiara (Hololive) - 4.527 - Balatro21) Dokibird (Indie) - 3.827 - Sponsored Stream22) IRyS (Hololive) - 3.919 - holoGTA23) Cecilia (Hololive) - 4.886 - holoGTA24) Kronii (Hololive) - 4.389 - Just Chatting25) Pippa (Phase-Connect) - 4.227 - Variety Stream26) Raora (Hololive) - 4.896 - Don't Starve Together w/ Kronii27) Shiori (Hololive) - 4.858 - Just Studying28) Kiara (Hololive) - 4.883 - The Legend of Zelda: EoW29) Shu (Nijisanji) - 3.879 - Crab Game Nijisanji Collab30) Rie (Phase-Connect) - 3.038 - New Outfit Reveal>SEPTEMBER EN COPE GOLDS PER STREAMER3x: Gigi, Mint, Kiara2x: FuwaMoco, Dokibird, IRyS, Cecilia, Raora, Shiori, Shu1x: Bae, Elizabeth, Calli, Meloco, Kronii, Pippa, Rie
>>86453443Neal tends to shadowban vtuber channels.
>>86453444speaking of subsDORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>864530442T = 1YT
My Gura stream is buffering
>>86453015why is gigi so sex
>>86453000We really need a chat rate comparison between ironmouse and vspoThere's vids showing vspo vs niji vs holo, and vsj vs niji vs holo, but I don't recall one between vsj and vspo
>do you grow sausages
>>86453394She's Austrian. Fake German.
Kiara was really careful with that word.
>>86453569>2T = 1YT>2Tlol
>>86452947Gura socks my fetish.
>>86453428
>IronLung 200 (adjusted for youtube)>Gura 25000Holy shit Vshojo 2view now?
>>86453552>SEPTEMBER EN COPE POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 3pts, silver = 2pts, bronze = 1pt)220p: Dokibird211p: Mint207p: Shu206p: Shiina204p: Uruka203p: Kiara203p: Calli201p: Meloco200p: Airi200p: Altare------------------------------------------------8p: Tenma, Sonny6p: Bettel, Dizzy5p: Vox, Vantacrow4p: Rosemi, Luca, Jelly, Uki3p: Rie, Fulgur, Reimu2p: Lia, Kilia, Wilson, Claude, Eimi, Rexford1p: Millie, Shinri, Enna, Ruze, Panko, Victoria, Narin, Elira, Erina>POINTS PER STREAMER (Small agencies/indies) (gold = 3pts, silver = 2pts, bronze = 1pt)45p: Mint40p: Dokibird9p: Kanna4p: Miori, Rin3p: Kilia, Nihmune2p: Nene, Narin, Poma1p: Jira, Lyko
>>86453394She's not German anon
>>86453057kek this is definitely ennacuck
>>86453428retard is the other way around. YT has tighter verification of views ergo 1 YT view is objectively > 1 Twitch viewthe closest possible is 1YT=4Twitchimplying IM is actually around 4.2k
>>86453580She grows my sausage...if you know what I mean.
>Check thread>Imaginary numbers
>>86453592hardest D ever said
>>86453652And not all germans care about it, it is a south german (Bayern) thing
HoloJP and NijiJP almost had the same graph yesterday.
This really is seethe central
>>86453689Means the thread is on its way to becoming a certified statisticians hub then.
>>86453125good for her
>>86453125
>>86453101Clearly Ame > Gura
>>86453689blame ennacuck
>>86453689Here, some real numbers.
>>86453125Honestly stopped watch the shitty dwarf game collab and started to watch Mousey and she is just more entertaining than the other 4 combined.
>>86453101A reminder to all the retards coming here to shit themselvesThey are irrelevant and nothing they do will ever amount to anythingHololive won as usual
>>86453728And Kiara isn't German.
>>86453741is the curse of THE MOST
>>86453800Homonigger
>>86453689>Imaginary >Star Rail typeI can post my cripplewife!
>>86453044Twitch numbers are too inconsistent, there's no stable conversion rate
>>86453347Do you think I'm dumb enough to lose my chance?
>>86453728Austria is just the butt end of Bavaria
>>86453125She is unrecognizable both in personality and style to me nowadays
Kronii 3k from 1 million subs
>>86453776divide by 4>>86453741isn't our fault everyone else comes here to seethe
>>86453125She doesn't feel like a vtuber aside from her appearance.
>>86453804then how come she can speak german
That said, this TCG shop game is surprisingly very very good for retention, both of them maintain their first stream number for every stream after itThe retention rate is close to 100%
>>86453776She about to mog the shark solo
>>86453825>>86453044Since Hololive won the month they needs a handicap to keep things fair and interesting so 1Y = 1T
>>86453834how would the talent scouts recognize your tits
>>86453421I'm a big fan of nenechi so there's a chance
>>86453273Skipping over homoEN4?
>>86453518They've just gotten way too fucking safe with their talent picks, kronii and really most of myth would not be hired today under covers current standards
>>86453898NTA, but there's all kinds of autists.
>>86453845She's too big now, she can't joke like she's a two view now anon.
>>86453884lol no.
Gura is so flat and smooth
>>86453800>check>she's fake crying about le sublol nigger
>>86453954NEAL
>>86453652Cope. Austrians are Germans just labeled differently. A rose by any other name and all that.
>>86453020Leave me alone
>>86453776RUN FLOPSHARK RUN
>>86453020
>>86453069Not a grem but I think Gigi has been on a trip
>>86453125Ok now where is the Mouse?
>>86453044(32*T − 32) × 5/9 = Y
>>86453858She's the best we've got. Everything else is nip owned.
>>86453898Do you really want to know the answer to that question?
>>86453874Miko keep mogging peko
>>86453954the ol' hard-lock +-200 exact CCV for hours Gura special
>>86452947>15 minute thread>140+ posts
Mousey EN gold today?
>>86454055We're inclining!
>>86453985Adolf is this your reincarnation?
>>86453273>EN CINCO DE LAS HOLOLIBRE
>>86454055
>>86454058100%
>>86453898Doing that is first of all wrong and second no whore is allowed in holo, at least not from my perspective. You can lie and all but it's going to be a mental burden once you realize you've done wrong.
>>86453125I regret clicking that thumbnail.
IM biggest supporter is the platform she is streaming
>>86453985You wish lol.
>>86453898>japanese health care system
>>86453264Vpai 1.9k peak ~ 20-40 chats per minutehttps://vrabi.net/video/-fatyzwHm4wVspo 1.4k peak ~ 15-25 chats per minutehttps://vrabi.net/video/PDkYWazEOssNeoporte 1.2k peak ~ 10-20 chats per minutehttps://vrabi.net/video/fUXZrkrl8RIIf you compare their low chat engagement to streams of people at their size (which also have casual audience) it isn't that far different. People just end up comparing their low engagement audience to high engagement streamers like holo since there are usually few to no other streams with low engagement in the upper end of their ccv.
>>86454058How much is her CCV post conversion?
>>86454164Who asked?
>>86454164holy kek
>>86453985Its some party they've been having for a royal wedding for the last three hundred years there's no way anyone knows this
>>86454164AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
What goes on here?
>>86454185divide by 4, so around 5k ish
>>86454119>hololibreNah, it'd be more like>holovivas
>>86454164Holo could never
another day, another easy 20k for mousey
still waiting for the holoEN event that was supposed to cause total unicorn death
She's making ludwig debut as a vtuber. She's lit creating a gura killer
>>86454164lemao. This is why Twitch will never be reliable for gaging popularity. All the numbers there are so cooked and manipulated.
>>86454164Yup talked about it yesterday.
>>86454164>Industry plant
>>86454164the fucking shame lmfao twitchnigger lives like this
>>86454055/#/? An inclining thread UNDOUBTEDLY.
>>86454164They're reaching new levels of GRIM that were never thought possible
>>86454268sorry bud, gotta divide by 4 for conversion.so she's actually 5k
>FINAL COLLAB >No Advent>No Justice What did ame mean by this?
>>86454255Holo en vivo
>EN Tally has its most relevant moment since the IRyS 1M Gold GET>Literally within the hour, the EN YTxTW shows up out of fucking nowhere and specifically calls Ironmouse "Mousey">while getting info wrong on literally post 1
Unpopular opinion but Ride on Time is my favorite EN duo. then FauMei and rounding out my top 3 AutoFister.
>>86454221A relic from a very uncivilized age. Dark times.
>>86454277
>>86454180>trying to reason with holokekslmaooooo
>>86454164absolutely shameless
>>86454349?
>>86454277>5k CCVnot bad
>>86454276Ame's leaving...everyone knows she has the largest unicorn fanbase in hololive.
LA PIEDRITA!!!
>>86454366>a great STREAMERBased Ludwig understanding twitch whores are not vtubers.
>>86454358
>>86454164>embedded numbers across the board
>>86454366Why does everything they say and do feels fake as fuck?
>>86454180>Holokeks are just groomerfags that spam chatTypical
>>86454366>Half Sad.
>>86454293Is this all they said? It's pretty vague honestly
>>86454277>>86454366Get lost you annoying roaches.
>>86454470Because it is just to get clouth
>>86454164Certified twitch baby, gugu gaga.
>>86454164This is like your mom sending you roses on Valentine's Day in school.
>>86454366this is what it takes to even pretend to compete with holo, getting peddled by flesh streaming faggots who are only funny to kids and apes
>>86454366>great story She really is only relevant because she's the token sick and dying Latinx.
>>86454366>also donating half the moneyThat's why they're giving her the money dimwit. She wouldn't be breaking shit without the charity bait
>>86454529I didn't even get that...
>>86454535gotta divide mousey by 4 mate.Sorry to break it to you
>>86454470Because it is, he can't seem to be mad at a crippled Latino girl.
>>86454529hey man, i would've loved to recieved anything on Valentine's
>>86454164>>86454293 No wonder she did it this month
>>86454529kek
>>86454164kek no fucking way
Pretty great day for vtuber mind chair. Ame "graduation" and Mouse gonna become most subbed twitch streamer.
>>86454547but enough about Fuwamoco
>>86454535>5K
>>86454180Here is a counter point>VSPO: 10k+ peak, 9K spot CCV, ONE DIGIT CHAT SPEED
I hope you understand that every time you keep feeding replies, you make the thread even more worthless. And then you complain why # is dead.
>>86451785
2024 and they are still pretending she's dying, i'm gonna die before this cunt ever does lol
>>86454164KEK
>>86454613lmao seethe.
>>86454529Lol
>>86454611Kill yourself.
>>86454550NTA but she's the best we got anon. Gura could never since she's a pedo bait.
>>86454651THANK YOU
>>86454552I want receipts after all is said and done. Should be fairly simple to find out the exact amount she would be donating and the donation website would show it. I don't believe for a second she will be donating HALF.
>>86453044If this website is correct about advertisement revenue per view: https://filmora.wondershare.com/more-tips/twitch-vs-youtube.html>Twitch$0.25-1.5 per 1,000 views>YouTube$3-5 per 1,000 views>ConclusionIf we compare min payout to min payout, it’s 12 Twitch viewers:1 YouTube viewer. If we use max payout, it’s 3.33 Twitch:1 YouTube. If use the most favorable numbers for Twitch by being squirrelly, we compare max Twitch to min YouTube and get 2 Twitch viewers:1 YouTube viewer. This is at least how advertisers value viewers on each platform.
>>86454649They reply to themselves
>>86454180Random niji with 2k peak yesterday ~ 100 chats per minutehttps://vrabi.net/video/FOy8UcXiZRA
>>86454649i hope you anderstand that the retards will samefag and your whining won't stop them
>>86454611Yep, HoloEn passing the torch to Mousey. Mousey even about to mog Gura with her ccv inclining right now
>>86453044>it's timetable decide what the monopoly money to USD conversion rate is
>>86453044>Twitch magic number embeds>Vs>RajeshTube spaghetti coding
>>86454649He literally samefagged for over 16 hours yesterday. The faggot shits up the thread whether he gets responses or not.
>>86454694She's gotta be humble so she won't show which one. Trust her.
>>86454611Maybe one day she can break the 45k record too
>>86454611>facecamshojo>vtuber
>>86454702grim
>>86454649>And then you complain why # is dead.I've actually never done that onceI'm pretty sure most people who do that are the same people spamming shitposts, actually
>can't even get 30k on ame's final collabdwarfniggers lost again. this wouldn't have happened if they played a game with elves, like vermintide
>>86453044
>>86454702Take the median of both
>>86453044divide twitch numbers by 4.take it or leave it.
>>86454694>give me the money first and I'll totally donate it later onI wonder if those people are interested in buying a bridge
>>86453090The true ccv is 56k, though.
>>86453057You Vstats interns disgust me
>>86454611It really does like a real passing of the torch moment between EN and ironmouse
>>86454719>5k
>>86454702Those websites are usually just random speculation
>literally no one here knows about Twitch "subtember" benefitsI've never seen people talk so confidently about things they know about 10% of the full picture
>>86454649If it more that 30sec, they replies to themselve.
>>86454644That's what never interacting with chat gets you, low engagement viewers regardless of ccv.
>>86454809Are you calling elves vermin?
>>86454810KEK well there went the whole argument
>>86454804Yeah, I actually enjoy when this thread is slow. The threadshitters can't hide when it's like that.
It's boring when Mousey easily mogs the shark
Where are the justice frames today?
>>86454864Welcome to /#/.
>>86454864We already laughing at twitch being her biggest donnor
>>86454277ew
gura is laying pipe...
>22k views>Ludwig vtuber milestone passed>9k to break the record
>>86454864You are blind >>86454293
>>86454864Then educate us, senpai.
Is it just me or is this collab extremely low energy
>>86454980Yeah, me
>>86454810AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE DONT ROOK
>>86454164>Anons are this stupid>They don't read the thread>>86454293What's even the point of posting news here, if all anyone cares about is braindead baits?Bet you fuckers don't even remember Choco, Flare and Botan released albums this week.
>>86454953Only justice today was raora member earlier
>>86455025Look who's in it
>>86453000>1/10too generous
>>86454707>biggest phrase in the word cloud is kawaiinijis viewers may not have as high engagement as holos, but they're a lot more engaged than vspo if they bother spamming that phrase
Ame is the least interesting person in this collab...
>>86454470She's a minority on top of being a chronically ill person. Unless she does something absolutely horrible on stream, you're simply not allowed to criticize her, at all. I don't like using the term, but she really does feel like an industry plant. Like Twitch saw the growth and opportunities Hololive had been getting and resentful that the Holos mostly stay in You tube decided to prop up their own "Holo", she's reaching "popular for the sake of being popular" levels, and even the people gassing her up like ludwig don't even seem to actually watch her, since, you know, he's not getting caught with IM merch unlike the couple of times he has with Holo merch.But I'm starting to sound bitter and whatever, I just really don't see what people like her for
>>86454864and this is during eu hours, no way an euroid holofan wouldn't know about twitch. This thread is just sea during all hours.
>>86455025Check your autism and maybe you can piece together why.
>>86455025>>86455064keep on the twitch peddling niggers you had a good thing going lol
>>86454864Twitch is gifting more subs to their streamers than their own fans. That's all I need to know
>>86453020why gamecube tho
Ignoring the shitposting Ironmouse does a great job of spreading vtubers in areas hololive can't reach and shilling the ideas of vtubers this subathon is a win for all vtubers fans.
>holoEN's entire box can't beat mousey's 45k
>>86455080She literally just woke up you inbred retard.
>>86455080She's always been terrible in collabs. The only time she's ever really been an active participant is when she was the one organizing them.
>>86455075You can buy bots that spam simple phrases in the chat, sort of like what chinamen were doing to Coco. Hell you can probably get AI ones that spam semi-coherent and topical variations of phrases nowadays.
>>86454864>subathon>but with twitch gifting more than fansWhat is there to discuss?
>>86455080Kinda based. It just means she'll be irrelevant the day right after
>>86455163>11.25knot bad
>>86454366> has one of the best storiesAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE STORYARC SCHIZO I KNEEEEEEEEL
>>86454810>simulcastretard
>>86455162>spreading ((((vtuber)))) to twitch niggers normiesroru
>>86455162yeah, I love all of the IRL cam and face reveal shit in vshojo. top quality vtubing. the nonstop collabs with connor the fleshfaggot are top quality vtubing too.
>>86455162If someone's first impression of vtubing is Ironmouse it's a disservice to the medium.
>>86455162>in areas hololive can't reachYeah the the whole west.
>>86455170You will always be terrible in life.
>>86455162She evangelizes being a twitch whore. The shit she spreads is anathema to being an actual vtuber and is responsible for the grim state of Western vtubing outside of hololive.
>>86454644jezas
>>86455162Unironically most people here don't care about her, because they don't want that side of streaming.But this is bait central and IM falseflagger has been a bitch for 2-3 years so people are taking it out on the face of those baits.
>>86454180Yeah except you forget that they are all under 2k while we're talking about 8-10k streams, even Hinano who has multiple 10k+ streams, retard.
>>86455261She is here before hololive existed
>>86449112Since this is causing a lot of screeching, let me add a bit more fire here.Pekora actually KNOWS what her fanbase thinks, even if they aren't open about it.This is pretty obvious in the next section -https://youtu.be/47Cyv5D0p_8?t=7319> Do you want your idol to tell you "please chase after your own happiness"?> Or do you not want to be told that?> It's a difficult question isn't it..> Do you guys want Pekora to tell you guys "I want you guys to chase your own happiness!"?> "It's fine if Pekora comes second. You guys should chase after your own happiness peko!"> "I don't give a shit" - chat. Fuzakenna.> *spraying stinkies*> "I'm fine either way" - chat. "I want to be told that" - chat. "Don't care" - chat.> You guys are mean *more stinky sprays*.> I guess that's how my community is.> You guys are acting tough aren't you? The ones saying "I don't care".> You guys actually want Pekora to say "Please become happy with Pekora" right?> I understand y'know. You don't need to pretend.> "Please cheer for Pekora alone!", "Please keep Pekora as your number 1!".> You guys want me to say that right~ ? I get it y'know~> No need to pretend so much~Pekora can be GFE as hell when she wants to be.
>>86455162you mean shilling the idea of being a lazy reactslop streamer?
>>86455258I won't deny that, but you also didn't deny my point.
>>86455297I disliked her before it was cool to dislike her
>>86455016wtf is that mouth who approved of this?
>>86455319You've never posted proof.
>>86455162Subathon is one of the worst contents ever since it stopped being about how long you could stay awake. Her bihgest streams are just fleshie galores.Nothing she has ever done benefited or is reacheable by indies.Subathons for indies is a way tonsupport themselves but unlike mouse they dont have the im dying excuse. Even zen does more for indies than her.
>>86455297>most people hereMost people in the whole board, phase has more mindchair than Ironmouse here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsVSmqEOULw
>>86455162>>86455297You react slop shit will never be vtubing
>>86455162I don't care about vtubers outside of Hololive, if Holo isn't reaching somewhere I don't care about who actually does it. It has been proven several times that those who don't follow the Hololive model are fated to become lolcows or girfters, if anything IM's antics just give vtubers a bad name as a sub section of entertainers that take advantage of sleeping streams. I'm honestly looking forward and wish for Cover to make the change from Vtubers to Virtual Idols, so people can't stop associating Hololive with the rest of the vtuber thrash that plagues the westerns sphere of the hobby
>>86454707>>86454180not looking good for vsbots kek, i wonder why ennacuck only took the dead 1k ccv ones
>>86455319Crazy how we can't talk about or link any of those streams from back then though.
>get shoved a random announcement https://x.com/LUNETTA_0930/status/1840330875348943138>All 5 members of this small idol group where terminated for contract violation.Does this happen often in idol world?
>>86455162> vtubers fanshololive fans aren't "Vtuber" fans
>>86454180>>86455300It’s not even just Hinano. Here is her collab mate, exact same point in time as >>86454644, also single digit with an even higher CCV
I'm rewatching the hololive vomit compilation, it's so good
>>86455386You also can't link a lot of recent vshojo streams because they have IRL facecam content or face reveals. It's strange that vshojo is even consdered on-topic on this board if you can't even discuss their streams here.
>>86453689Ennacuck really loves those keyboard numbers, I don't know why he rarely brings it up now.
>>86455401>Not even nijifags or phasefags went this low
>>86455428They aren't fans of anything.
>>86455415Low end idol stuff can be akin to prostitution
>>86455319Post proof please
>>86455386I could post proof but I'd probably get banned for obvious reasons
>>86455016>DAY 30wtf, am I misunderstanding, she has been doing a begathon for 1month straight???? What the hell goes on over at twitch,I see there is even a sale on to bait more engagement
>>86454180dodging the big botted numbers huh, here is a random forgotten niji girl vs vspo bots on the same exact content
>>86455486other than hololive, yes
>>86455343Everybody here is emotionally and physically exhausted.
>>86455486I'm fine of my Oshi and i'm thankful she is in hololiveI loath you shitters like there is no tomorrow
>>86455433>Another VSPO whore as your datapointAnd? What are you trying to say here? Do you want to prove that my argument is right even more? Might as well recycle those keyboards numbers, I'm waiting.
>go in the holegeez Gura take it easy it's my first time
>>86455456That is pretty crazy
>>86455401>Not even nijifags or phasefags went this lowyou got some good selective memory right there negro
>>86455505It's the meta. the more you stream the more you gain engagement and get fav by twitch algorithm. It's grindy I admit but it's still more fair than YT random harsh algorithm
>>86455550Gomen anon, misclick.
>>86455401lol.lmao, even.
>>86455550>Do you want to prove that my argument is right even more?Y-Yes? Isn’t that obvious that you and I are arguing the same point opposite to that anons cope?
>>86455505Just leave the stream on running YT vids or other people streaming and go to sleep. Its the twitch meta
>>86455401speak for yourself
>>86455602It's just as bad because it encourages lazy garbage like sleeping streams.
Kiara talking about anal
>>86455505I learned about "subathons" recently so I'll fill you inTwitch subs, like on YT memberships, only last a 30 days without renewalSo the game is to beg for as many twitch subs as they can get within 30 days before the new gift subs start expiring
>>86454933Yeah if you're a literal retard maybe. Do you honestly need an explanation for why the YT streamer is getting more views on YT?
>>86455658Yeah, sorry, that's my fault. >>86455621
>>86455355who cares, she'll get a new one next month anyway
>>86455297I only watch Hololive nowadays, but i have a lot of respect for Ironmouse and i can't find a reason for me to dislike her unlike that rabbit from Phase.
>>86455602roruthe way to make it on twitch is to suck of the person above youit's been this way for a fucking decade
>>86455162>"vtuber" fans>same >fans who encourage face reveals, faking numbers, all kinds of twitch sloppery and drama + grifting
>Ame Graduation >new group makes their moveOdds of it working out?
>>86455415>20 million viewsNumbers.
>>86455602It promotes lazy content because there is no way you fill all that stream with good quality. Is terrible and worse than yt where you just spam what is popular.
>>86455714Pippa is unironically more honest than IronMouse.
>>86455725Why do you think every vtuber raids ironmouse?
>>86455016>Ludwig vtuber milestone passedWhat the fuck does that even mean. Ludwig has vtuber milestones?
>>86455806It's going to be another thing like this.
>>86455754Oh I heard this from Lottie is cool that we have a second moon.
>deletedsennacuck ban evading again
>>86455680Jesus, it's a different world outside of Hololive
>>86455415kek, some small vtuber chick twisting the knife and making her move!
>>86455806Ironmouse has been trying to make Ludwig stream as a vtuber for almost a year now
one thing that I do think it's starting to take shape recently is that a lot of groups and companies seem to be growing increasingly bitter towards Hololive, specially the [walled garden] approach, simply because they're taking the biggest piece of the pie and keeping it to themselves. a win for Hololive is not a win for the wider vtuber scene, it's only for them, because their success only applies to them and the girls have structured things so it works that way. the insane propping up and support unrelated to their popularity other chubas like karubi have been getting feels like a direct response to IF THE HOLOS DON'T WANT TO SHARE, THEN WE WILL MAKE OUR OWN HOLOS, as if they're desperate for someone, anyone, to be on part with the holos, even when the gap continues to grow increasingly big by the day. earlier today there was some talk about how it's unhealthy for HoloEN to be the only actually popular vtuber group in the west, but the same can be said about Hololive JP beacuse no one is even close to the relevance they have currently, a growth and popularity that they only share among themselves, holos prop other holos up, that's how it goes, they support their sisters and no one else (which is good) but I think it's starting to piss off a lot of people from outside of Hololive.
>>86455016Why is she so... long?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-1Ue0FFrHY
why the fuck would gura stream at this hourshes fucking pro at this
>>86455415> 2.7k followersWhat the hell. Well i guess its not like they were throwing away a big career but still not a great look
>>86455806Why the fuck is everyone on Twitch obsessed with a YouTube streamer in the first place
>>86455602youtube promotes literal 1views to me as an option for every single stream i watch. Twitch instead only promotes the ones already with big numbers
>>86455806Remember when HoloEN debuted and had a massive sucess you had flesh cunts like pokimane come out with "vtuber" models, was horrendousgonna be the same shit herejust another griffting angle from those hobby tourist
>>86455947Edgy.
>I used to play Tony Hawk on the gamecubeBased
>>86453273>I'm going to be part of EN5, trust me anons
>>86455680not quite right. a subathon a sub marathon, viewers sub to keep your stream live. Many vtubers tried it but couldn't pass a week max. Ironmouse is a special case.
>>86455960Because he used to be a twitch streamer. And the one who popularized subathons too if i remember correctly. Though thats just what i remember from this thread.
Almost as if chat speed is content depended, and how many EOPs you have spamming in chat.
>>86455754>it is expected to be with us until November 25th.No... graduation planned already...
>>86455947kronii has been good for a while now. She's learned her lesson
>>86455927I don't really see it in the EN scene ever since the collapse of NijiEN. I think it's a symptom of a close second competitor existing, but slipping.
>>86455016talk about a soulless model, damn
>>86455947there isn't a single RideOnTime stream out there that's not kino>>86456105retard
>>86456080>viewersTwitch is the top donator though.
>>86455947Wow, you sure fooled us by using a Gura image. Don't worry noone can tell you are in stealth basically
>>86455680This is technically possible on YT with gift memberships but I've never heard of anyone big doing itThe culture on YT is just different and google also doesn't really give a shit about livestreaming so they don't have an equivalent of twitch's subtember
>>86455477Unprotected vaginal sex with Ookami.
>>86455927Success breeds jealousy
>>86455163>mousey's 45kNot even close to the EN twitch record for vtubers.I'm ignoring Opera GX embed abuse debut
>>86455977Not saying YT doesn't promote 1 view but it's still random. I could count on my hands indie vtubers who made a vt career solely on YT alone from scratch without being linked to a big corpo one way or another.
>>86454164>60% money back to them>50% of that money goes to ironlung's pocketRORU KEK RUMAO
>>86456129i was mostly talking about JP to be honest, but it probably will become an issue for EN eventually
>>86456083All he did was ape King Phil.
>>86455754I'm no moon scientist but I think that's just an asteroid?
>>86455927>a win for Hololive is not a win for the wider vtuber sceneWrong. A win for Hololive is a win for vtubing. Hololive = vtubing. Everything outside of the walled garden is just twitchthottery, leeching and grifting.
>>86456192who?
>not even 30kmyth fell off
>>86456170Youtube streams have a 12 hour limit before they need to be reset.
>>86456243If hololive was vtubing they would nurture their own talent from scratch. 80% of their talent comes from NND or twitch scene.
>>86456164Ironmouse is unironically becoming one of the main female faces of twitchs.
>>86456218anon?..
>>86456299The graduation is going to be grim.
>>86454366>one of the best stories on Twitch How fucking transparent.
Ironmouse will have more haters after this just like the SA girl that won an award against the top twitch streamers.
>>86455927that's what's amazing, they mostly keep on groing on their own while the outside is heavily reliant on external factors and peoples
>>86456299that bitch Kiara is stealing views
>>86456219moom butt
>>86455903lol.
This collab is ok, Ame isn't adding much unfortunately. Kiara is doing good keeping the conversations going.
https://youtu.be/S5uqwFhQKfA
>>86455300>>86455433>>86455506https://vrabi.net/video/jahMBZPow2w (12k peak, single digit chat)https://vrabi.net/video/SsOEGDLwyCE (6k peak, single digit chat)These sort of low engagement viewers aren't exclusive to vspo anon, here are some with decent ccv and single digit chats per minute. most vtubers have viewers that are highly engaged due to the nature of the business. streamers like vspo or neoporte who tries to court the casual fps viewers have much lower audience engagement than someone who makes their content as a background to interact with their viewers.
>thread immediately died after the banAlmost as if 1 bot account replying to itself was propping up all the "seething"
>>86456219No, that's that's I mean.It DID happen a lot in the EN scene when Niji was still a legit (but slipping) competitor. A real second option for people into Vtubers, but with a slowly (then suddenly rapidly) reclining marketshare.My idea is that Niji proper is slipping from "real competition" to the position NijiEN was to HoloEN last year. That's when I saw that kind of seethe in the EN market, and I think that dynamic is repeating for Niji proper.
>>86456313Well yeah but you can just create a new frame and redirect to itAlso the very fact there's a 12 hour limit is just another symptom of how little google cares about livestreaming
>>86453044It should be proportional to how much a platform pays for every view a stream gets. A rough estimate would be something along the lines of>4 T = 1 YT
>>86456299>>86456342Ban evading
>>86454366>donating half the moneyWhy not all the money? What seems to be the issue?
>>86456426Gura seems to be having fun so I'm having fun.
>>86455927All the biggest Youtubers went out of there way not to get their brand associated with other youtubers. Joining the wider community would put a cap on Hololives growth, a cap that they've already surpassed.
>>86456201youtube is pretty ass when it comes to promoting individual streamers, but it think that's just a side effect of how the site is structured in the first place, youtube feels more personality focused than content focused in comparison to twtich. If you're watching someone stream on YouTube it's because of who they're as a person, meanwhile I think twtich has a lot more people who're willing to watch anyone decently good or entertaining as long as they're playing whatever game (you) are interested in at the moment. that an game streams (which are the focus of twitch) are a lot more approachable than personality driven content like zatsus or utawakus, and I think twitch chubas lean a lot more towards games than they do chatting, with youtube being the oposite, even if on both games still make up most of their content
>>86456429>literally 3 viewsAssbitch, stop self promoting.
>>86455947Don't ever shit post with my daughterwife ever again.
>Wawa-You love betrayal don't you kronii>Kronii- It's what I'm used to >The girls all go quiet for a moment
>>86456101look at all them EOPs in Ema's karaoke
>>86456483dw she's totally rich and totally paid 100k for that shit looking concert lol
>>86456171Here you go
>I am guras parasiteLATER LOSERS!
GURER IS HORNY
There are a lot of little tasks in this game. Normally I'd think that would make Gura's brain hort. I guess she just likes dwarves enough to power through it till she learned it.
>>86456548>andI understand English is very hard anon.
>>86456101you already tried the EOP angle you dogfucker give it up
>>86456496Kiara and Kronii are being good company for her, which makes me appreciate them greatly.
>>86456219
>>86456438I'm very curious to see how large of their audience watches on phones. I remember when I was in Japan, all the teens were watching stuff on their phones on the train.
>>86456483I mean can we set aside the shitposting for a second and be real here?If they explicitly started this with the premise of>I will donate half of it to charity, but I also want to keep half of it for myself to make moneyThere is literally nothing wrong with that. I hold no grudge against someone making bag.If they LIED then it would be a problem for sure. But if they didn't, it's not a bad thing.
>>86456403
>>86455140Gura Cunny=GC=GameCube
>>86456544I can('t) fix her
>>86455927The idea of the walled garden was only created because vtubers outside are acting like animals. If everyone behaved with dignity there would be no need for walls
>>86456626>he replied twice with the same narrow angleEww, get a life.
>>86456613stop coping, viewerbase don't just suddenly change like that
>>86455602>Site is in red>Instead of promoting short quality content and good image so more people spend money on it it decides to instead promote hours of nothing and SFW camwhoring
>>86456647Remember when Ironmouse did a watchalong of a QTCinderella stream where she was offcollabing with Connor and making him cookies? Vshojo fans are gigacucks.
>>86456243I like how you think and agree that it's the proper and only way to look at things, but the prevalence of [Hololive = vtubing] is one of the key factors in why so many people are desperate for someone to rise up to Holo's level, so the whole thing doens't become a monopoly, how it was back when Myth first debuted. when everyone just assumed all vtubers were "hololive" with NijiJP slipping more and more, hololive will inevitably become the only face associated with vtubers as a whole, that's why they're trying to hard to artificially make other vtubers appear just as popular or influential
>>86456705based retard dogfucker there is only you and me ITT right now
>>86455927All this does is illustrate the leech mentality among streamers. They NEED to leech popular things and if they can't they are pissed.
>>86456643>give me all the money then ill go off in secret and donate half, i promise
>>86456610Gura has excellent taste.
>>86456610Yea. It just tickled her brain in the same way DBD did
301k subs. 5k to go queen
>>86455754why do big holo events always get accompanied by big world events?
>>86456749>he replied tree times with the same narrow angle
>>86456643Using the incentive of an event + a charity cause for personal gain
>>86456521Wrong. Twitch has zero discoverability. You could be a streamer with the best content but if you are not in the top 6 slots of a directory there is NO way for anyone to discover you.
Kiara died...
>>86456686I'm going to play some GameCube right now.
>>86456756Sure, that could be an issue with some people.But like, it's impossible to claim that's what Ironmouse is doing. Because she donates half to the IDF. And the IDF notably and explicitly sings her praises about it and gives her awards and shit every time.They're clearly getting their end of the bag, too.
>>86453015what would be sex with Gigi like
>>86456643>making bagPlease fuck off and never come back
>>86456859based dogfucker keep sucking off vsbotcock
>>86456728Mousey and Conner are like the romcoms of anime. The slight moments where they get closer together yet are unable to meet due to mousey sickness are bittersweet, yet they still deeply care about each other. Then Connor takes Mousey with him on streams to show her the outside world while going on dates on screen. Then they bond to the point where Connor does charity streams for Mousey so that one day her illness will be cured and they can finally have a beer together. Then add on the friends and the side ships then It truly is rom-com Kino in real life.
>>86456859All that worthless number peddling and made up shit just to end up poorly trolling like a retarded kid, what a shame
>>86456863Yes, and I think there's nothing wrong with that, because I don't fault people for making money as long as it isn't made under false pretenses.
>>86456643because it's not half of 6 dollars, it's half of whats left after twitch's cut so half of 3-4 dollars. donate 6 dollars to charity but only like 2 of it actually goes to charity.
DWARFCHADS!KIARA WANTS TO SEE DWARF DUMPY TWERK
>>86456643Is scummy as fuck. Because now you are using the goodwill of people to promote your own gain.
>>86456643I'm not saying that. I am saying is that she is saying>look i'm donating to charityWhich will incentivize people to donate more than usual because>Charity = gud Froot I doubt her subathon would have earned as much if she did not donate half and due to that her 50% is higher than what it should've been, so it becomes kinda disingenious
>>86456994Mousecuck...
Reminder it’s subtember on Twitch. Subs are 25-30% off and there’s currently bonus subs being given away by Twitch.https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/subtember-2024-faq?language=en_US
>>86456438/#/ constantly ignores reality to pretend holo has bo competition in terms of popularity. reminder that they started to push the vspo bots narrative after multiple vspo girls gets 100k+ streams for their 3D debuts beating a lot of their holos.
>>86456994If I had a cancer gun I would blast you like and old school gangster spraying down a stool pigeon.
>>86457032disgusting
>>86457037Well she did have a man. She is a cat mom now.
>>86457094that's a looooooooot of keyboards
>>86457094and now VSPO fails to hit 10k CCV with any of their streams on most days.
>>86456994she's a rare niche of shipfags it shouldn't work on paper or for any other vtuber but somehow it works for her.
LAST MISSIONSAY BYE BYE TO AMEBYE BYE AME!
>>86457015But that's true of everything that goes through Twitch. Or YouTube, unless you use their built-in Charity feature where all the money of a video goes directly to a charity with no middlemen.Mind you, I think if the goal was to maximize charity donations, this isn't the right approach. But it clearly isn't. She wants to also make money. That is inherent in the fact that she'll only donate half and says so publicly. Maybe if you put the asterisk "After Twitch Fees," it would make a more assumed part of the deal more transparent, but I don't see that as a lie or anything.
The irony of Connor shitting on Hololive girls for only being popular because of the brand while he and the entire Twitch streaming world make sure to keep Ironmouse as popular as possible will never not be funny.
I love Gawr Gura.
>>86456610She (and Ame) clearly like the game, but I wish they chose some other game for their last ever collab
>>86457094CPM
>>86457037Shes been married and divorced like twice now. She herself said it
>>86457233jesus
>>86457190Isn't most of youtube charity drives using third party sites?
>>86457233ANOTHER ONE???
>>86457190Ame donated 100%
>>86457094>reality
>>86457273ame won't get a cent from hers
>>86457233Wait. Wasnt there one that was up to $800? What happened to that?
>>86457174Thats one of the issue with courting casual viewers, they don't stick as well
>>86457251Who the fuck is Ironmouse?
>>86457324Neither will youtube, that's the point
>>86457354
>>86456643Funny part about that. The money going into her hands first, then going to charity, wouldn't she get a huge tax write off? Seems like she gets a free 100k plus a 100k tax write off. I'm no accountant, that's just how it appears to me.
Is this the power of Ironmouse, All kneel to her power
>>86455016that is one ugly design
>>86457190>But it clearly isn't.Which make the use of charity morally questionable. I think that is the issue people here are having.
>>86457273>>86457303Forgive me if I'm wrong here but wasn't the first charity drive done with the YouTube function?The recent one, that was just donating directly to the charity's website, so clearly it was 100% for sure, but I forget the first. It's been years, she probably did use their website, but I thought I remembered her using the YouTube function.
>>86457233COVER, GET OFF YOUR ASSES AND DO A SECOND RUN.
>>86457233I accidently bought two hats and I wanted to sell the other one. Ebay later permanently banned me for “being a serious threat to the community” or something.
>>86457356>Thats one of the issue with courting portuguese, they don't have keyboards
>>86455162XQC does a better job
>IronmouseThe only retards more pathetic than ennanigger are subhumans larping as ennanigger.
>>86457233They really do need to do more greatest hits reruns. Surely this has occurred to them.
>>86457273There is a built-in YT charity functionI recall nijis like Doki using it beforeI dunno what the cut isIn any case, Ame used tiltify which only takes 5% with 95% going to the charity
Kronii is so much louder than everyone. How many years do you need as a streamer to figure this shit out?
>>86456438Oh NOW you're moving goalpost from>like a lot of casual streamersto>They are courting casual *FPS* streamersOne of them is Reid which is a frequent VSPO regular collaber and the other is Emperor which is a known tourist prime.
>>86457396Pretty much.
>>86457396Also, twitch doesn't take a cut from charity streams.
>>86457396The tax write off should really only cover the tax revenue that would've been taken from the second 100k, iirc
>>86457316qtcin... again
>>86457407It was designed by a fan in a contest she organized. she decided to rig it. Your oshi would never.
It's over, Gura lost against Ironmouse head to head. She has now singlehandedly beaten all of HoloEN
>>86457470nijiniggers running ebay
>>86457595Wow, even her fans sucks
>>86457094>holo bo competitionGo on
>>86457599Mousey has beaten the shark many times in the past.
>>86456647What site is this where you can see who raided and how much?
>>86457595>It was designed by a fanshe should get better fans
>>86457488ok now this is bait
>>86457679Twitchtracker of course
Ironmouse should really be offtopic insta delete itt, there has never been a time where someone has brought her up in good faith.
>>86457632Unironically may be true as they wont tell me what rule I broke
>>86457495>Greatest hits But that hat isn't. Even Moom sold more.
>>86457599>>86457668your shitter got mogged by each and every holoEN girls including Sana
>>86457595>Your oshi would neverYeah, my oshi would never settle for that hideous trash.
30k DORYAAA
>>86457751>7.5keh
Mousey EN gold
>>86455016oh my goooood why are redditors so obsessed with this chick. go give money to starving kids in africa or some shit this bitch is already set for life
Anons don't know how hard it is to stream 30 Days straight 24/7 this is the result effort of everyone of her fans to her friends everybody finally coming together to break a record from the top streamer on the platform Mousey earned this.
>>86457428Look my point is more.>i host a party>people give me minor giftsVs>i host a charity fundraiser which is also a party>i take 50% because i am the organizer>people give way more because it's attached to a charity labelThe individual profit, although 50% of the total earn amount, is way higher than it would have been, had it not been attached to the charity label and i get to boast about doing something good. It makes it just kinda icky. Just donate the whole 100%
In case you guys forgot to get your daily free holoearth coins now's the time since they just refreshed!Why is most female avatars running around with non-free underwear
>>86457813They like Vtuber, except IM is the only Vtuber they know so they support her
>>86457396Anon high chance she gift subs to herself to maintain the timer.Her timer being 2-5mins from expiring for like 20 days isn't normal for big streamers that do this it's mostly 1 day to 3 day gap.So high chance she did this half to charity thing and not full because half of it will be use for gifting herself.
>>86457813She's a disabled POC who does cuck content.
>>86457813hai domo, watashi wa Africahere's my paypal account
How many pity raids did it take?
>>86457510weird nitpick but casual fps viewers are a subset of casual viewers anon. my first post includes streams that a casual viewers would watch but not a casual fps viewer would. the examples in my second post happened to be streams where casual fps streamers are likely to watch, which is why I made the specifications albeit unnecessarily
>>86457811She would, if she streamed on youtube. Alas, twitch simply does not matter.
>>86457843>how hard it is to stream 30 Days straight 24/7
I am SO FUCKING BACK bros
>>86457843It would be hard if she actually had anything to show. Her goals most of the time are>play x game>chat choose something (make a poll)And not like she wasnt sleeping 6-8hrs
>>86457495worst thing is that they DO know, they have done it for graduations, they know what are the most popular items from each holos, they're just really weird about it. i get being a little more conservative for things that are really expensive to produce like Mio's hoodie, but Okayu shouldn't have had such a hard time just to re release her oppai mouse pad. things like the MILF hat or the basic mascot plushies should be regularly available
>>8645790414k from cinderella.
>>86457973Not now.
>>86457902konnichiwa Africa-san, paypal account wa doko desuka
>>86457849>take 50% for organizing the charityThis sounds scummy as fuck.
Reminder. We hate Bloop ITT
>>86457857Nada a bunch of russian (subs are 1dollar for them) saved her many times
>>86458007Why are you getting mad when you are voluntarily in the wrong thread?
>>86457994My guess is that it has to deal with the revenue split, those specific merch items give the girls a way higher cut than the stuff they come up with.
>>86457861I'd rather watch the Jason Mewes stream
The day Vwhorejo DiedBots won't say you
>Puerto Rican Vtuber
sharkie has chronic tummy hort
>>86457973BUY BUY BUY BUY
>>86457973MY WIFE
>>86458007> seething
It's boring when Mousey shows some of her true power.
>>86458043Kek, of course.
>>86458007Calm down connor
Made a longer version, silenciobros. Hyp for when we encounter /baubau/ next vt leaguehttps://files.catbox.moe/9dfzx0.mp4
>>86457973wow she's really good, why hasn't holo hired mikeneko yet?
>>86458150>true power>sub 10k
Seethe harder, number monkeys. It's glorious.
>>86458170Legit. EN Gold.
>>86458052The charity is for people with her conditionstill a bit weird, though
BRUH
>>86457727>Fauna vs. MumeiKill yourself, you disgusting freak.
>>86458007nigger >>86458170
>>86458052My point exactly
It's funny how Ame is graduating today but more people ultimately care about Ironmouse breaking an unbreakable record and that's what everyone will talk about. When we look back at today a few years from now, Ironmouse's achievement will still be significant and will get noted on Wikipedia while Ame will be a footnote on a shitty fandom wiki. Hololive really is insignificant in the wider EN streaming scene.
>>86457959
>>86457904
>>86458222>PirateSoftwareBased
>>86458218Subhuman nijinigger
>>86457751Who raided?
>>86458052It’s seen as benevolent on twitch cause everyone else does donothons for self enrichment. Kinda like how on YouTube the small corpos all do a donothon at some point. I remember pirate software convinced people to donate a shit ton of money to him by framing it in the way of “let’s break the hype train record!”.
>>86458170Lmao. I despise raids. Even for EN. What happened to Natural Funneling my love
>>86458222HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>86458255>writes garbage for (you)s
>>86458274Isn't that the please tab out and mute channel?
>>86458274lol
>>86458285Cinderella 16kPirate software 14kConnor 5k
>>86458342its a view farmer yeah
>>86458043>>86458170>>86458274KEK
>>86458317That doesnt exist in twitch
>open IM stream>immediately get giftedBut...but I don't want it...
>>86458222>piratesoftware>authorized viewersEverything about twitch fucking sucks
It's happening. The queen of vtubers is nearly back on her throne
>>86458304>for charity>proceeds to pocket 50%
>never eat anything>whenever you eat something eat 1/10th of a normal portion>why is my tummy always rumbling?!
>>86457973Not again...I still really want to lick and cum on her pale skinny thighs.
>>86458222thats like 23k in raids lmao
>>86458279>Basedkys Blizzard cocksucking shillSIGN. THE. PETITION.
>>86458317Because raids are infinitely better
Mousey wonGura lost kek
she did it ! gg
>>86458419Will she finally hit 50k CCV today?
>>86458047konnichiwa anon, aa chotto mate kudasai7065839233, pureasu gibu ju hyaku man desu, arigato gosaymasu
>>86458222Why don't other streamers care about HoloEN? HoloEN self isolating has been disastrous for their growth and their brand. They can only lose viewers, never gaina by new ones.
>>86458522She will if she gets the front page buff
Where the fuck has Ame been this entire stream?She's so damn quiet.
>>86458210kek
>>86458552>never gaina by new ones.shitter not welcome you can keep the eceleb cocksucking all you want
>>86458432She needs a team of people to tell her exactly what to do every second of her life just to be semi functional
>le sub-30k sharkIrrelevant shitter
I will be going to sleep after this. You guys enjoy the shitshow when unityfag Amelia Watson does indeed end up having homos in her graduation stream.
>>86458552>raided by all of twitch>sub 50k
>>86458575AAAAAAAAAAAA
>>86458552Nijinigger/homonigger
>>86458419Why tf she got 2 layers of fang
>final (the last one) (now for real) Holomyth collab>not even 40k combined viewersThe homobeggar of EN going out sad.
>>86456935There would be records of the donation. Non profit have to legally keep receipts pretty sure So there should be easy proof of the 50% donation because we will also have the number of subs.
>>86458419censor that disgusting mouth please
>>86458522not enough raids
And just like that Kai Cenat just got mogged. Hololive would never, not even HoloJP would be able to do this Holofans are so poor these days.
What will the cope be when Amelia slips to Mousey's 45k today?
>>86458210LMFAO
>>86458052Precisely, if she was genuine about the cause she would have donated 100% like Ame or DougDoug or Mori or etc.
>>86458218You legitimately forgot what day it is today
>>86458635
>>86458723I will raid her
>>86458222Is this out of date? It's not including >>86458274
>>86458591Collab ame is a ghost. She just woke up before the stream also, but still this is normal.
Another day another Natural Holo Gold
With 12 hours to spare
>>86458713I didn't know Kronii was Myth
>leech off graduating coworker and still lost kek
>>86458759>holoEN needs a graduation to beat a mousey just chatting stream
>>86458759I thought it was tomorrow kek damn that's a bummer I like Ame.
>>86458591shes watching mousey on the other monitor. her future collaborator
>>86458210>perro chino
>>86458713blame kiara
Gura eating my frosting
Reminder that Aqua is still signing her merch
sharkie is an embarrassing failure
is this the power of grifting? The vibe I get from ironlungs is so similar to mr.beast let hope it doesn't end the same way one day kek
>>86458846You bore me, faggot
>>86458759>Not a graduation, explicitly stated by Ame and repeatedNo one is going to show up, because Ame is coming back
>>86458522sorry she only wins in metrics that actually matter
Lend Mousey your energy today a vtuber take the records for the history books is not only a win for vshojo but for vtubers across the globe lend her your energy.
>>86458497You mean the mousey who jumped on senzawa's dick when that random tweet came out?
>>86457396It’ll depend on how it plays out. I don’t recall if she’s in Puerto Rico or not, but PR does have a separate tax treaty. I’m familiar with US tax law, so here’s a take. First, none of the viewers can deduct contributions because they purchased goods (subs and bits).For Ironmouse, hopefully the money goes directly to charity, so no charitable contributions deductions. However, for her to deduct the money from this month she has to report revenue.Let’s say she earns 100k from this event. That’s 100k more on her Sch C. The 100k would be subject to SE tax of 15.3%. She can then deduct half of that on Schedule 1. She can then itemize 100k on Schedule A as deductions. She’d also be allowed Qualified Business Income Deduction on Sch C net income assuming she’s below the income threshold. The net effect on her tax would be additional SE Tax and however income tax is effected.This is not even considering possible effects to her AMT, NIIT, and other high wealth taxes and credits.
Are we being raided?
QueenThe Peaple Want Cute and Funny Girls
>>86458591normal ame behavior
>>86458977>fleshshojo>vtubers
>>86458535wakarimashita, issen man aruzenchin peso okurimashita
>>86458956LOL
>>86459013Obviously
>>86459013Vshojotroons mad mouse will never be relevant.
>>86459013No
>>86459008puerto ricans don't pay federal taxes. she got the racial buff
>>86458968>50% of the proceeds will be donated to the IDFEverybody keeps ommitting that 50% will be pocketed
>>86458977TAKE MY FREEDOM
>>86459013Yes
>>86458977GREAT VICTORY FOR CONNOR LETS GOOOOOO
>>86459013>constant mouse and vshojo spam>sharkie flop spamidk, you tell me
>>86459013When are we not being raided?
another day, another easy EN gold for mousey. it's boring when there's no competition.
Are there multiple people larping as ennacuck? How is this fucking nigger active in every timezone
>>86459099Why are you replying?
>>86459099the only thing you're omitting is that it's not a charity.
>>86458903Evergreen post, she's never going to be done
>>86458968Funny how everyone talking about her sounds like a press release. So goddamn artificial. Vshojo must legitimately run twitch to make these peons kiss her ass this much.
>>86458961that's right, sleep hours
>>86459099Ironmouse is contributing to Palestinian genocide? YAB.
>>86458977I don’t know anon, I would like to hear from Mr. Satan first
>>86459021>sub 26k collab
>>86459149just some shitcord kek
>>86459013Not as much as ironmouse
So just eyeballing without raids mousey is a sub 5k shitter right?>>86457861>>86458222>>86458274
holoEN reclining
>>86459021where this from?
>>86459099Most people have enough brain cells to piece that together without it being directly stated
>>86459193She's known as the flopshark in the EN vtuber community for a reason.
>>86455927VTubing is ultimately a niche-ass hobby for women to show off their talents without exposing themselves.But women as a whole aren't really incentivized for that. They get far more money flashing their tits on camera or whoring their body out on onlyfans. Putting yourself out there without "you" being center stage is an entirely different ballgame for women.Hololive is the only company that has strict requirements to keep your roommate separate from your chuuba identity, keep up the kayfabe as much as possible even during handcam stream and just let the girl's talent speak for them.Women that aren't Hololive are pissed because the typical fleshie VTuber grift of "have a model" --> "flash tits/show face" --> convert viewers to onlyfans paypigs doesn't exactly work in this industry because it's dominated by Hololive fans and Hololive culture.Tenma, who was openly encouraging the VTuber - IRL tag one year completely flipped and shat on the people doing it, because it went against the culture and caused immense amount of grifting (all of which got exposed).The people seething at hololive are talentless whores, because VTubing is designed and incentivized towards giving talented women a platform to show off their talents without exposing their body on camera.Don't get me wrong, chuubas still get lewded, but on the stream at the very least, the focus is on whatever the girl is doing, rather than what she's wearing - or what she's not.
>>86459218still higher than holo en without bots
>>86459218sub 3k on youtube
>>86459218you have to divide her total by 4
>>86459149There's a trannycord server dedicated to raid this place all day
>30/30 monthly EN golds>30/30 silvers>29/30 bronzesIt really is over for the rest of the western vtubers when their crowning achievement is a singular bronze
>>86459218
>>86459246There's a high chance that Amelia will lost to Mousey today.
>>86459246she already passed the milestone, its only downhill from here
>>86459246No one is tuning in on their own will lmao.
The thing that really makes Twitchies seethe is that despite Ironmouse's "record-setting" stream going on right now, her numbers have no affect on the EN collab. They hate that Holos don't need them, that their audience doesn't watch them, and that they can't leech them.
>>86459324>There's a high chance that Amelia will lost to Mousey today.Whaet?
>>86458942She is a Jewish (Blackrock-Soros) Industry Plant like Taylor Swift.Everything about her is Fake and manufactured.
>>86459218Just like everyone in EN except Gura
>>86456643shes a grifter whose whole existence revolves around emotionally manipulating peopleend of story
>>86455927The creation of the walled garden was also the product of the chinkout. At that time no one wanted to collab or sponsor with holomem, so they resorted to just strengthen their core and minding their own business. Now that everything is going great for hololive everyone want to leech on them when everybody avoided them before. That create a very wary nature in holos and only recently the JP have started opening to others very close to them, but shit like mel made them still very reticent. I don't think holoEN will open to others because is way worse and toxic outside. There are oddities like Mori that learned her lesson, or nerissa and Kiara but they are being retards and unless something really bad happen to them they will not learn.
>>86459353>They hate that Holos don't need themyea even holos don't need holo anymore
>>86459302Who got the bronze?
>>86459343saying this to the one who recruited her to her own company.
>>86459253i aint reading allat
>>86459397blatantly false but you do you negro
>>86459149Like other anons said, it's an unironic discord raid, but to answer your question: Ennacuck is legitimately mentally ill enough to spend 16+ hours threadshitting here. Go to the archives and start skimming quickly through at 5 AM EST. It's unsettling.
>>86455927the good thing is that I don't care who hates Holo because Holo is all that I need
Is this the anti thread?
>>86459397
>>86459039chotto matte anon, tishu pepa mo issho ni katta ho ga desu ka?
>>86459408and shes donating money to the IDF BASED
>>86459235The say it, be genuine and honest instead of attaching the label of charity or donate the whole 100%
>>86459353I didn't even know this HoloEN collab was happening
>>86459432I am sorry I don't follow 1k irrelevant shitters.
>>86459451Bots and raids
>>86459426Doki, during the day right after ENReco where almost no one streamed. It was when she was doing that fighting game tournament
>>86457014that why i dont donate
>>86459450This is the Hololive loving thread
>>86459512Nobody gives a shit about holoEN in 2024. They were nothing more than a lockdown meme.
>>86459451>High CCV but low VOD viewsI don't want to say it but Fauna would fit right into VSPO
>>86459253chatgpt summarise this diary blog please
>>86459522We are not talking about IronMouse.>>86458274
>>86459522uh oh melty
>>86456643Kill yourself.
>>86459214my sides...
>>86459575kill yourself ennatranny
>>86459454soudesuka, jyaa tishu pepa no NFT okurimasu
>can we raid into the stream?>no, I haven't put the frame updebuffson......
>>86459450It's quickly becoming the holo anti thread because of this raid that's totally not sponsored by our benevolent overlords.
>>86459450depends, who's your oshi?
Kronii was watching the myth collab too
uh oh mythcuck melty
>>86456483Maybe she is not as rich as vshojofags want to claim.
>>86459575Have you ever looked at Fauna's vod views? You are straight up lying.
>>86459214
>>86459673We know that already. She tweeted about them fucking up her shit in MC
>>86459608if you want to actually be competetive you need to post youtube numbers with graphs so we can see they are legit because most of them aren't
>>86459214KEK
i wonder if ennacuck is secretly an ironmouse anti
kek
>>86459671Fauna
>>86459214Kek
>>86459703Other half goes to her weekly new model fund
>>86459451Fuck, I'm going to go watch Fauna's first day of EnReco again. Shit was great.
>>86459713She rarely gets 100k vods these days despite decent CCV. She fell off hard and the numbers are being masked by saplings trying to hide the recline.
>>86459478There is nothing dishonest about saying "50% of the proceeds will be donated to charity."It is inherently understood that the other 50% necessarily cannot also be going to charity, and so it is going to the entity receiving the money.Again, people who have functional brains do not even need to think about this. It's obvious.We don't need it spelled out like we're 5-year olds with terminal autism.
go play with phasekek outside in catalog vshocucks
>>86459214kek
>>86459714>slipped to mouse and kuzuha in the same month kek
Mousey won. holoENslop lost.
>>86459758>IRySFucking subhumans
>>86459758>70 views in 15 hoursDon't post your channel here.
>>86459673No shit
>mousey biggest stream of her career won't even be the biggest english chuuba stream of the day oof
>>86459809she's been grifting with her totally real health issues for like a decade now there is nothing wrong about that
>>86459714Why did Pekora abandon unicorns? It's cold chicken all over again.
>>86459877Daily reminder Mouse nendo did so bad it didn't even appear in the official shop.
>>86459713we’ve known she’s botting for years retard
>>86459789Ennacuck, you need to kill yourself.
>>86459880Heh
>>86459546>>86459671
>>86459417>also the product of the chinkout. At that time no one wanted to collab or sponsor with holomem, so they resorted to just strengthen their core and minding their own business. That’s true but the Holo girls mostly kept to themselves pretty much from Gen 4 debut forward and most of the external collab parties from that point on were the ones that stuck even after the chinkout: Shiina, Hoshikawa, Toko, Tamaki and similar close friends of the girls.
>>86459809>It is inherently understood that the other 50% necessarily cannot also be going to charity, and so it is going to the entity receiving the money.Therefore she is grifting the "charity" label
>>86459935We are not talking about Ironmouse.
You know what. Just let them talk to themselves. Abandon the thread.
>>86459937Uh nyo nyo nyo >:3
>>8645987740k Streams Doko?
its almost there anonthe end of a hero
>>86459580
Fauna doesn't even have 1k members watching. She raided less than 500 yesterday and you expect me to believe her public numbers are legit kek
>>86459660ie ie, tishu pepa tsukattara, kimi ni ageru yo
>>86459877getting a bit desperate, are we?
>>86459809But it only benefits her, she gains more money by using the charity as bait than she would if she would do a charity steam seperately and the charity recieves less.
19k people hearaing gura kick barrels in the background
>>86460102It's true.
>>86460063>leeching off a graduating organ and still lost to mousey
>>86459922did he cosplay ame yet, I missed it
>>86460031Yeah, I guess that makes sense if you have schizophrenia
>ennapaki seething about Fauna on cooldown again
>>86459877>L sizekek
>>86460102thanks chatgpt
>>86459877>L Size
OH NYO
>>86459789>She rarely gets 100kOut of the 13 vods there, only 5 haven't hit 100k, and one is about to at 99k
>>86460211It makes sense if you have more than 2 braincells.
>enters the thread to make us seethe about IronLung>ends up seething about Fauna on cooldownthis dude is so fucking dumb
>OH NO NO NO NO NO DISNEYBROS!Now Hololive can FINALLY make a superhero gen for the girls!>DIBS ON THE SPIDER HAG, I ACCEPT NOTHING BUT EIGHT FUNCTIONAL LEGS AND SEVERAL PAIRS OF EYES!
OH NO NO NO PHASESISTERS WHAT NOW?!
>>86460423lets gooooo(i didnt even know that was something you could trademark)
>>86460401I think he was just banned.
It's not over yet bros!
>>86460401A study should be done on his low IQ
>>86460455Don't post these here. Shit thread doesn't deserve it.
>>86460177>Twitch Numbers
>>86460480Did she beat her 45k from 2022? That's got to be around 80k in raids today.
>>86460102
>>86460512What are you doing in the shit thread then retard? GTFOH, i will defend my daughterwife anywhere and everywhere
>>86460164>and the charity recieves lessSo let's take 310,000 subs at $6 a pop (she's still going and this is not counting bit donations)That's $1.86M, she receives 70% so $1,302,000So this means that she is giving $651,000This is already multiple times larger than any amount she's ever previously raised during dedicated charity streams.
>>86459925You aren't even trying to be subtle
>>86460538>Yotube Numbers
We are watching this now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb-I0YBqdVw
She's the queen
>>8646054134kPeople enter the stream and insta fuck off.
We're watching our debuff queen not knowing what a funnel is.https://youtu.be/UNaekMLkXPY
Everything will be okay
>>86460541Nope. Viewers are refusing to watch her no matter how many raids they throw at her
>>86460608Why did you put ironlung's heart monitor on there?
Hololive won
>>86460623166 hours? that's a lot of connor for her to play to her "viewers" while shes nappin
>>86460623Holy shit Miko.>27 hours>1.26 m
>>86460580My bad. God speed.
>>86460583>Every sub is in USDHoly cope
Ejaculate in and on Fauna and her salad.
>>86460623She's the only one that makes EN proud.
>>86460623>5.3× the air time>only 1.2× more watch hoursHoly kek that mega grim. Why are you celebrating that???
>>86460455>>86460661>thank you for everythingit's over...
>>86460127Vod has 1.5k likes, over 8k views. the pre-verification vod views when it ended were at 4k.That wikipedia reading one has 11k for some reason
Shiori... don't do this to yourself.https://youtu.be/UNaekMLkXPY
>>86460724Don't hate the player hate the game. Your lazy oshi should have streamed more.
>>86460634ironmouse has eye raped so many innocent people that were forced to look at her disgusting models
>>86460720>Ame 400k>19 hoursAme is bigger than Mouse wow.
We're watching shiorin next btw
>>86460331>botting as he writes his postsapcucks are sad
someone should do a total of all the raids and put it next to her peak i think it would be funny
>>86459789Why lie about stuff that takes 10s to fact check??
>>86460623that's kinda sad, 166H and the holo girls by comparison would be mogging her if they had the same hours
>>86460819Yes
when a video ended, do you guys also have that one recommendation specifically in the bottom left used for saviorfagging purposes? I never watch tiny ass chuubas like this
>>86460836>ban evadingPLAP THAT ROUTER
ONELASTPUSHONELASTRAID
>>86460608>Has to burn welfare checks to mimic a fraction of twitchs number fuckery
>>86460798Proportional views retard. How pathetic can you be???
>>86460623>more airtime than the top5 combined
>>86460795She's got a free slot, game is debuff but not enough make her 3view or anything.
>>86460423it is kinda weird that there's no Toku Hero/Super Hero/Magical girl Holo.
>>86460861all it take is letting a stream run for 30 days while watching slop and sleeping
>>86460861Nah, YT numbers fall off after 2 hours, that's why they stop
>>86460885not always bottom left but yes I do get saviorfag shit
>>86460798>Your lazy oshi>Literally streams herself while sleepingAnon...
anons, this is the very last trinity
>>86460848PLAPS
>>86460708Yes. Twitch doesn't work like YT. She gets $4.20 USD for each sub regardless of how it was bought.In the same way, 1 bit is $0.01 USD regardless of the currency it was bought in.
>>86460727>nijisissy never saw a talent be grateful for her fans without graduatingTruly grimI toas tmy fellow holochads for another 15 years of gura
>>86460623wtf why is filian korean now?
>>86460623>hours watched>half of her stream time is her sleeping
>>86460455>>86460661context?
Saplings are a cancer.
>>86460974Stop falseflagging, you pathetic Phasecuck.
>sapoops being exposed as holoan
>>86460819>Huge 35K collab just ended>Sub 1k waitingWhere did they all go?
>>86460861To be fair that's pretty much the only reason Koyori shows up on these charts its sheer volume
>>86461023
>>86461030>>86461057you're not fooling anyone tranny
>>86461023gura just quit live on stream
>>86461030nah, facecamshojo and troonsanji are cancer with how much they push political shit into the vtubing sphere.
>>86460819Wasn't she doing paper Mario today? I love Katamari, love when chubas play it
>>86460819The sub 600k sub and 2k ccv shitter? Yikes
>>86460819Ha! She thought she was debuffing herself streaming at fuck you hours for her usual audience, but there's nobody now until ame! I will watch you, you autistic sexy retard!
>>86460974Holy delusions
>>86460541The attempted pissing contest Ennasister is trying to pull right now is hilarious when Vtubing on Twitch is seemingly hardcapped to be always be under 45k.
>Shiori 1K waiting.Why you do this to her? She only wanted to be ignored today and not have some anoying people potentially asking her questions about Ame and what happens today.
>>86461116i want to have sex with hebe fauna so badly
>>86460993Is this part of why Twitch is bleeding so much money?