Is Ironmouse the most powerful vtuber in the world right now? She was both vtuber of the year at vtuber awards and content creator of the year at The Game Awards last year. How did she do it?
>>86486003Since when is 300k subs impressive? It really puts into perspective how far Hololive is ahead.
>>86486003The /vt/ catalog is not the place to post disgusting third worlders, so cut that shit out already, I'm tired of seeing that grifting sleeping rat.
>>86486003I can never wrap my head around the fact that the most popular streamers in youtube AND in twitch are both niggers. They've truly ruled the world.
>>86486446Retard. Subs on twitch are like monthly 6 dollar donations
>>86486446sub on twitch is the equivalent to membership on YT she have 1m followers on twitch which is equivalent to YT sub
>>86486446Anon...
>>864879872 Mil on twitch, 1 mil on youtube
>>86486734youre being replaced. bow down.
>>86486446This is a retard false flag trying to direct hate towards chumbuds as usual.
>>86486003>most powerful vtuber in the worldOnly on twitch, 200k subs is barely worth anything to sneeze at compared to youtube subs. Even Nijisanji girls have more subs than her.
>>86486003> Be Mousey> 1st Twitch chuuba> No petty dramas with other people> No retarded Twitter takes> Make content that Twitch algo loves> Not an unironic whore> No GFE> No politics> No cheating> Backed by and befriended with normie streamers that matter> Bonus point for illness and IDF charityIt's simple as that. Hell I can even say that VShojo will start their downfall once Mousey decides to go indie like her ex-coworkers
>>86486003Lmao, not even close. vshitshow dont represent a 5% of the whole vtuber industry.
>>86486003No>>86486446Fpbp
>>86486003>have a few extreme paypigs that give out subs like dust in a carpet flooring room>wooooooooooooooowyeah nah fuck off. hate this stupid whore for her connor shit
>>86487987(me) *correction she have 2mil followers on twitch and 1mil followers on YT and 300110 sub(membership) on twitch
>>86488860she have 2 million followers on twitch the twitch sub is like YouTube membership and the followers on twitch is the equivalent to YT sub . so no niji is Dead compared to her
It's so inspiring to see someone find immense success even when the odds are significantly against her. What the fuck are (you)r excuse?
>>86486003Twitch is a small pond. Every other month that record gets broken, who cares
>Ame retirement on everyone's mind for the past few weeks>Froot's controversy burning down vshitshow>l-l-look at all the s-subs griftermouse gotI am calling bullshit on the legitimacy of the subs.
>>86492940>lying and being a nepo tard is inspiringI wouldn't say more since the lung mouse is sacred and you get banned for saying the truth
>>86486003>twitch event has a twitch streamer woah no way
>>86492940>even when the odds are significantly against her>he believes this
As fake and gay as this achievement is, and as much as I dislike ironmouse, it amuses that twitch must now put up with the fact that a vtuber, a part of their platform that they despise, holds this record.But we know they'll just bot, fake, and bullshit their way into a fleshtuber break it in a few weeks, at the longest.
>>86502833smaller vtubers will still get persecuted because they can't offer sexual services to the moderators like mouse
>>86486003>How did she do it?capitalize on being ill, it is that simple.
>>86486003No she's just the most vainglorious grifter who's willing to gift the most subs for the #1 spot (which are probably at a discount due to gunrun). Same energy as getting #1 watched ranking by doing 71 stream (sleep) hours over a 3 day period while the next person has 12h. Bunch of meaningless metrics that are only good for getting your name on some tweet for publicity, even though everyone who looks at it just goes "who?"
Wasn't she supposed to be dying of cancer or something?
>>86508425she never claimed to be dying
>>86486003The Game Awards also said TLOU2 was GOTY.
>>86509089What the God damn is this picture for fucking ants suppose to say? I assume it's about Cookie but Hell if I know since you made it so damn small
>>86509128they also said Ironmouse was SOTYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fTDdZlXrz4
>>86486003she's even going after catbox, the power is getting to her head
>>86486734why?minstrel shows were massively popular
>>86486003No, but she's the western face of chuubas. Yes, chumbuds, Guura has more YouTube subs, but she doesn't do anything with her numbers. Even then, she's behind the Japanese top dogs. They're just that much better. Their popularity is based on who they are, and the content they produce. Not any other way of boosting themselves like charity subathons or other creators rallying for their success. Either way, she's fucking huge and anyone denying it is just trying to act blind. That and she's also based for beating that loud unfunny nigra.
>>86486003>streamer "news" trying to set vtubers against normies againwe already have our own cancer. trying to set an army of angry preteen kai simps high on prime and mr beast lunchables into the mix to shit on vtubers is going to make everything far worse
>>86510052She's the worldwide face of chuubas.
>>86486003holochuds seething
>>86510052>she's also based for beating that loud unfunny nigraThe only downside to this is that his fans will only grow to be more annoying. They're already seething hard.
>>86486003>most powerful>twitchTwitchfags are actually this retarded?
>>86510481When will she die?
>>86510481Pekora's primary audience is Japanese why the fuck would they search her romanized name dumbass
>>86486446What the fuck is a Kai Cenat??
>>86510699>youtube monkeys seethinglook rasheed we all know the number 1 demo for youtube is india
>>86505514LITERALLY BOUGHT HER OWN SUBS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>86505514Is this what ironlung fags are flexing? The lengths these 2views would go through to get a fraction of Hololive's aura
>>86510851And what the fuck is an Ironmoose?
>>86505514as expected of the pity begging attention whore. Everything about her is fabricated including her success
>>86510851someone fanum tax this ohio skibidi rizzler
>>86505514>>86510892>bought her own subsmost likely. for weeks she was constantly under 5 mins (a subathon ends if the count reaches zero, 1 sub = ten secs). Hell, some of the large ones she doesn't even thank, it's transparent as fuck
>>86510052>Guura has more YouTube subsI like Gura too, so please stop embarrassing us. A youtube sub is the equivalent of a follow on twitch, we're talking about paying subs (the equivalent to youtube members), you dumbfuck.
>>86488822Chumbuds don't need help directing hate towards themselves
>>86510892Better than >10% prime subs, by the thinnest of margins.
>>86512404>Hell, some of the large ones she doesn't even thankI wonder if vshokeks would rather choose to be labelled cucks or admit that ironlung is a grifter
Holy seethe, it's pathetic at this point.
>>86509698>wins content creator of the year at TGA>then best vtuber at the streamer awards >now bots and grifts her way to top of twitch subs>all within a yearthis growth is disingenuine
>>86510481holoturds, what went wrong?
>>86510481
>>86510481Wtf??
>>86510820Why would the rest of the world search for her name in japanese? This is a worldwide popularity poll, not a popularity poll in japan.
>>86492940she's not doing anything though? she has a few rich simps in her community. that's like saying it's inspiring to see someone get born into wealth. she's not doing anything. she hasn't accomplished anything.
>>86513266She sucks a ton of dick for someone who apparently physically can't touch others
>>86513266no conflicts or nepo shit to see here, move along
>>86514073this is the most retarded picture the number monkeys ever created
>>86514073Lmao this old screenshot. That channel only existed for paying for QT's streamer awards and never raided Mouse ever. I challenge you to find a screenshot showing its QT's main channel
Imagine letting this little pink worm make you seethe.
>>86513648If thats the cope you want to go with
>>86514213Imagine flexing the worm as "the best vtuber" and not expecting to be exposed
>>86514203>you don't understand, the streamer who teaches her fans how to afk ad farm for her would NEVER have her fans ad farm on main, they have too much integrity for that!looooolll
>>86514277And what cope are you going with, ironlung fag? That buying subs for your oshi is expensive and is therefore a valid way of getting her to the top?
>>86514353Very real and active raided viewers, as you can see.
>>86514213I thought the 0/50 subs to pay bills that everyone used was sad, but god damn, this bitch is insane with that sub counter at 90k/200k.
Imagine if Hololive fans bought subs for their oshis on twitch. The top 10 will be all Hololive. Luckily for the pity beggar, Hololive rarely touches radioactive trashheaps like twitch
>>86514446She's just playing the game as she knows it. That counter in fact encourages her cuck fans to actually donate more, because they see it as an activity with their e-friends and get high from the dopamine every time they get cheered on for dropping 100 subs. Watch this to understand the mindset of the average twitch sub gifter cuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtW9gOETPdw
>>86514446that was last years record
>>86514507Sure bud. That's why there so many Youtube Memberships as high as IM, oh wait nope.
>>86486003I support ironlung over that creature
Unstoppable rat won yet again!
>>86514692they are the same type of creature
Sure are lot of mad fucking losers in here.
>>86514431remember when numbermonkeys made a dedicated thread for three days about this and all the board laughed at them kek
>>86515354>chat replay>both ccv hiddenwhy do you keep posting this embarrassing cope lmao
>>86509782What is the copyright Infringement? Her sleeping all day? lol
>>86486003It's interesting how whenever there is any talk about her it's always about numbers or some other metric showing that she "won". It feels really artificial like people need to keep telling others that she is popular. No one needs to tell others that Pekora or Gura are popular and while people do talk about their numbers they also talk about their content a lot.
>>86515453Look in the archives.
>>86514507Yeah except for La+ who's regular platform is twitch and she can't even keep up with Henya and Zen, let alone get close to Mouse.
>>86515556Aren't you just agreeing with him?
>>86515354kek still funny how they cry every time about cherry picked webms whenever you post this.These numbermonkeys literally have no self awareness.
>>86515467If you try to bring up Mouse's streams no one believes you because no one on /vt/ has watched any of them and will claim all she does is sleep, anon. There is no point having that discussion.
>he's replying to himself nowlole
>>86493841You can see when the records are set on the tracker. Ninja's was set in 2018 and stood for 3 years until Ludwig beat it. Ludwig's stood for another 2 years until Kai beat it last year, and MOuse beat Kai today.
>>86515414Thats the point he's mocking you about how easy it is to cherry pick
>>86515906Lmao cope and goalpost moving is all they have at this point why are you coming in with facts and evidence.
the seethe is real; mousey #1 fact, your "opinion" means nothing lololol
>>86516015that's not even a cherry pick thoughit's like drawing ironmouse sucking a cock in paint and saying that's "cherry picking"
>>86486003By actually streaming. A lot. She actually enjoys it and isn't just doing it till she catches a fat enough paycheck and then fucking off.
and somehow normalfags still don't care about the "top vtuber"
>>86516414I'm sure it'll work if she throws another million at it.
>>86514431Truth brother
>>86514976>unstoppable>diesKek
Watching the w community tear vshojofags apart on twitter has been really funny lmao
>>86516539Post a link
>>86516414She doesn't need them. As long as her circle says she is the most popular then that is all she needs.
>>86514283>denying the worm isn't the greatest model of all time
>>86514431>>86515354> all the board laughed at themNo, I remember how that stopped the spam because you guys were crying that your bitch was exposed.
>>86516539what the fuck is a w community
>>86516865Name of KaiCenat and others in that clique's community. They're not really doing what anon said though so he's not posting a link.
>>86516414I still remember that old timey vtuber that got huge on twitter then doubled her views to 500 or something
>>86516706cringe, hololive made that joke years ago.
>>86516900Quite the opposite some are going "Who?" but most are giving props. Even fucking Adin Ross gave Ironmouse congrats
>>86516706sex
>>86515354Wasn't that just Pekora's waiting room?
>>86513334I don't get why you vsjfags hate holo so much
>>86505514>>86510892this is EMBARRASSING
>>86516924The worm is years old bro. This isn't a new model.
>>86517353I don't hate, I just don't watch a lot cause most of my faves are JPs and I don't speak japanese and I like to do other stuff while I listen. Korone, Subaru, and Marine are mine. I have the live translate add on if I really want to catch something on occasion. If you ever see /vsj+/ you'll find most of us don't dislike any of your chuubas, especially since a lot of our girls are friends with many of them or fans as well we just want them to be happy.
>>86516924nyanners invented worms
>>86486003>has more subs than some retard no on has heard of>awards that don't mattershill your stupid whore on reddit. /thread
>>86517844Then make more of an effort to reign in these cataloguenig compatriots of yours
>>86517958Kai is the biggest streamer in the world btw
Buy an ad
>>86518058>vsj>catalogyou must be new here
>>86518058>compratriotsThere's more people within the other fanbases using Mouse or the rest of VShojo as their flag to make the other side angry and kept on trolling, and since they are falseflagging with it We just want to enjoy our vtubers man, and we get these wack schizos every single day...
>>86518217There's literally like 3 cataloguenig threads about IM where people there are picking fights with holofags for zero reason.
>>86518382Doesn't change the fact that Ironmouse is a pity begging grifter that doesn't deserve to be successful. Literally the andrew tate of vtubing, fuck her.
>>86515021I see that nigger was lying
>>86519693The things subhumans like IM and her fans do to get a fraction of Hololive's success
>>86519671She does deserve it because she's multi-talented, funny and an extremely hard worker.Keep coping and seething but that's not going to change anything about her success.
>>86519914>extremely hard worker.>react streamer>does "irl" streams which is just her on video call dates with her boyfriend
>>86486003There is no way IM fans brag about numbers. That would be like chumbuds bragging about Gura’s numbers. This has to be bait.
>>86515556followers are not the same as paid subs on twitch, for the last time, retard. IM has a follower count of 2M
>>86518162NTA but never heard of him btw
>>86505514Jesas. Props to her paypigs I guess. But you know what I always did wonder why her peak viewership was that low considering her popularity. Makes sense that it's propped up by a lower but dedicated viewers.
>>86520339Congratulations anon. That doesn't make the statement any less true
>>86520385>why her peak viewership was that low considering her popularityHer popularity is completely artificial.
>>86486003Look, Mousey and the rest of VShojo have never been my flavor of chuuba. The most I see of Ironmouse is clips and when she's in the news, and from that alone I can tell why she's in her position and its pretty admirable even if shes not for me. She's without a doubt one of the most hard working and ambitious I've seen in the scene, and definitely blows the rest of Vshojo out of the water in comparison with her dedication. She seems to be a genuinely good person, stays out of most drama, has a lot of solid connections, and a good reputation. She definitely feels like she has a more normie appeal, and thats admirable in itself that she appeals to a really wide audience. I don't have anything bad to say, and I'm happy that a VTuber is holding such a big achievement on that platform. I don't get why we need to seethe so much about it when non-vtuber fans are doing the seething already, I'm willing to just be happy for this achievement for all of VTubing.
>>86505514So she earned 1,268,945 $, Twitch takes 30% so she's left with 888,262 $. After she donates half, she's left with 444,131 $. Not bad.
>>86521429wait, twitch and amazon takes a cut?
>>86521429mods get a cut too
>>86521301nigga, nobody cares about this.
>>86486003Did she meet Ronaldo?
>>86521703shut the fuck up faggot dont talk to me, youre filth under my shoe
>>86510052>No, but she's the western face of chuubasliterally a lie, especially when she has a million faces.
>>86521301Total vshitshow death
>>86521785
>>86521581Sure, also she could be donating the 50% to charity after the 30% Twitch cut, so she might get a bit less. This is just a best case scenario because, as it is with YouTube, not all currencies are the same so you lose a bit from the conversion.
>>86521823youre a faggot who cant find joy in anything in life, your mother is suicidal because of you and your dad rapes you in hopes that he'll see the tiniest fragment of pleasure cross your face for once in life
>>86510481>Kai Cenat fags google her name>look how popular she isReally?
>162,000 of her subs are giftedlol
>>86521910
>>86522520grifted*
>>86521817ok nijisister
>>86510481So all of hololive's "popularity" is bots and they're actually losing to kson
>>86516598>goes to fleshfags Rust server>makes VShojo Academy>leeches over every popular fleshtuber starting with Connor>sHe DoesN't nEEd 'em
>>86521775This guy is not doing black people any favors.
>>86514431Much more real than all of hololive's viewers.
>>86516808Nah the whole board has laughed at you and holoshite since.
>>86515354>>86515623>>86527826Why don't you keep your numberchimping to /#/ Ironshill? Because you already know you would get BTFO again?
>>86528173Why should we do that? We own this board and can do whatever we want.
>>86505514>gift subs don't countwhy not?
>>86486003What content does she create that isn't just other people's content?
Im thinking were back
>>86527826Holoboard newfag, aint nobody praising the ironmouse co & show
I'm actually curious, no shitposting, how many of these subs stay longer than a month?
>>86530208It's vshojo board see >>86510481
>>86530336Check how many are watching right now.
>>86530537KEKAROO How humiliating It really is just a gunrun and griftrat tax write-off
>>86528446So I could just make an account and gift subs to randoms and be the number 1 vtwitcher as long as I have enough money?
>>86530537I thought she was the queen of vtubing? Filian mogs this whore every day
>>86533933How does she mog her? She can't even stand still while she streams? Its like she is constipated in VRchat> Verification not required
>>86530537AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE CONNOR TASUKETE
>>86530537Wow...
>>86530537Pffff
>>86530537this is fucking grim. shameless botted whore
>>86530537TELL DOWN NOW AIIIIEEEEEE
>>86486003I think Ironmouse is alright but I don't give a FUCK about industry awards.
>>86530537All the proof you need that she's a botted grifter
>>86530537Guys, easy with the replies, Ironmouse is sleeping. And has more views for some fucking reason. When I took the first pic she was doing react content.
>>86537626Just bots...
>>86537156The industry awards are rigged anyways.
>>86530537Her average audience engagement/dono count is usually just slightly above the higher EN Holos, so most of those are probably bots.Her follower count is also weird, because she kept gaining and losing massive amounts of followers, which would be weird for people, but not for bots. One almost suspects that Twitch is banning just enough viewer bots to look like they're actively being pruned, but ignores enough to keep the myth of wider Ironmouse relevance alive.
>>86540043Makes a lot of sense, we all know she's botted and twitch is probably avoiding a PR nightmare by banning a dying girl
>>86537626that's even worse, it just proves the viewer count is fraudulent if she gains viewers by not being there
>>86510892>>86511360>>86512404can you prove they're self-bought?
>>86519874>>86519693>my lazy cunt is better than your lazy cuntboth of you should kill yourselves
>>86486003>california only cares about those of their own and those who worship themWow! I'm not surprised.
Would Mousey still be as popular if she didn't have the 'sick girl' persona going on for her?
>>86542520She was a legit 2 view before she made up the 'im dying' lie, you be the judge
>>86542520Nope. That's her gimmick.
I have yet to see holochads provide evidence of her claiming to be dying
>>86542520LOLFuck no, she's got a dogshit voice and her only jokes are her getting jizz in her eyesUnless you're a cuck there'd be no reason to watch her
>>86542520lolno. that's why she leans into it so hard
>>86515906Notice that all those other records were made in March or April, and not 'SUBtember', the month where Twitch gives you free extra subs.
>>86486734Basketball is more popular than Soccer
>>86544990This was actually the first year they did that. Other years Subtember was just discounted subs
Is the entire hate for Ironmouse simply because she's successful and doesn't have the blue dorito?
>>86545909People will say no. But yes.
>>86486003I think she's really boring, much like trash taste and ludwig, her appeal is being really well connected and collabing with other ecelebs in a sort of network of safe gray mediocrity where everyone involved wins.
>>86546127This
>>86545909No? She's just obviously fake as fuck.>but vtubers in general are fakeYeah, but she's obvious.
>>86546127For sure seems like she is more popular with her industry peers than with general audience. Makes sense that other content creators would respect her as they see her do the same job even though she is sickly and by supporting her they also improve their image. But this also helps her win awards like the one on the game awards which exposed her to a big general audience watching the show. As long as she keeps her good image and relations she will be propped up by the people in the industry.
>>86545460LOL, wait wait LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>>86545909No. It's because she's MORE successful than everyone serving the blue dorito.
>>86547064lmao
>>86547125Show me any holoshit with 300k memberships
>>86494038It's almost like the people on twitch who follow people like mouse aren't the same audience who gives a shit about hololive.
>>86547181show me irongrifter raking in millions a year like holos do
>>86537626The first screenshot you took was just after the 48 hour stream reset which forces everyone to refresh the page. It takes a while for people to do that and some don't. This is a known thing for all twitch streams then streams crash or reset.
>>86547234She literally did just last month
>>86532828for that metric? Sure.Doesn't seem to stop holo when they brag about superchats.
>>86547254if that's true then all this means is that they're all immensely successful and capable of raking in millions.what are you even trying to argue here you schizo?
>>86547234320k subs after Twitch's cut = roughly 1.3 million from the subathon alone. Now that's not all literally going to her because she's pledged to donate half of it to charity, but that is the money she made in September
>>86547379that's good i'm happy for her
>>86545909Occam's razor: Yes.
>>86547234Lmao the evil IM probably makes more than them. Vshojo doesn't take a single cent of channel revenue, unlike Cover.
>>86547273Because unlike holo you can't prove it? 90% of the subs are gifted.
>YOOO CHECK THIS STREAMER EVEN THOUGH I DONT LIKE HER VOICE>SHE HAS SUFFERED GREATLY BUT I ACTUALLY DONT LIKE HER VOICEcoon opinion
>>86548209So they're fake botted subs? Some robot billionaire bought them?
>>86548180>probably>maybe>perhapsSo you don't actually know and can't back it up. Got it.
>>86486446Anon... Gura has like 6k at best...
I'm just gonna say it, you guys only care because she's beating a content creator who is black.
>>86486003mousefags cannot seem to get it through their thick skulls just how insignificant twitch numbers aretwitch has maybe 3-4% of the audience that youtube doesliterally smaller than bilibilidont take my word for it, try an experiment for yourselftry telling your family about ironmouse without first having to explain what twitch ismeanwhile every human with an internet connection knows exactly what youtube isfurthermore, with regard to the kai comparison, you know as well as everyone else that mouses numbers are giga inflated by the subathon and will collapse dramatically over the course of the next monthyou know damn well she cant maintain 5view for anything but a charity subathon or a concert, meanwhile the actual large corpos have multiple talents that do it every daythe best part of all is you know damn well you wouldnt be pushing her so hard if it werent for her condition, because pity baiting is really all she has if she had to stand on the quality of her content alone shed be low 3viewshe produces maybe one hour a year of decent clip material and the rest is a massive snoozefestbut saviorfags need to justify the money they dropped on a grifting whore so they will do whatever mental gymnastics are necessary to convince themselves that she deserves it
>>86546127 >network of safe gray mediocrity where everyone involved wins.this is lit hololive
>>86548676Speaking of that, what exactly is her condition? Wasn't she becoming better? Yeah I know its a tourist question
>>86548676You are 100% correct but don't ruin it for them. Ironlung subathons are the only times they can brag about...well, anything really.
Constant exposure to Ironmouse /here/ has turn my indifference towards her into general annoyance, that might be the point of these threads though
>2022 120k>2023 200k>2024 300kcan we give her 500K subs next subathon
>>86548676Twitch has 4x the streaming viewership that Youtube does anon.
>>86548676that's a lot of words for a seethe post. I'm not reading all that
>>86549118>youtube only does livestreaming
>>86549184being a tribalfag over a jew website is omething but arguing in bad faith is another.
>>86549184It doesn't. But we're talking about streaming numbers. And if we're talking about streaming numbers and trends, then Twitch is still dominating Youtube
>>86549268>But we're talking about streaming numbers.Not that anon, nor me are talking about streaming numbers, but the site in general. YouTube is more popular than Twitch.
>>86549485If you're not talking about streaming numbers then no streamers are relevant next to Youtube's non-streaming numbers lmao.
>>86549485>YouTube is more popular than Twitch.yes but the meta is still streaming, and as long as the vt meta is streaming twitch is still more relevant and more popular as a career for vtubers than YT.
>>86548676HOLY BASEDthere isn't a counter to thiswatch the IMcucks scurry off to jerk off over their Connor self insert
>after losing the /#/fag war by a based anon, the vshocucks are now numberfagging a website Sides in orbit. I guess with a streamer with such a shit voice and dull personality numbers are all you have left when you can't stomach the slop she calls 'content' No wonder her monkey fans are so obsessed by them
>>86550066Who are you talking to
>>86549555The current meta is Twitch/Bilibili streaming, because becoming relevant through Twitch alone is almost impossible without the support of someone much more popular. In fact, becoming relevant through Twitch is so hard that most VTuber companies focus on YouTube, since it does a much better job at recommending people to streamers they might actually like than Twitch, which seems to prefer recommending big streamers.
>>86548597>similar viewer count>substantial whalers, as we've seen>nothing taken by a corporation besides the host website and Uncle SamIs it that unreasonable?
>>86551524Whether it's reasonable or unreasonable is irrelevant as it's nothing more than an assumption based on "probably". Unless there are actual numbers to back it up?Ironmouse pulls in a lot of money, especially during subathons, but even with cuts Holos pull in a lot of money from many different sources of which there are no hard numbers. There's no way of knowing and as such retarded to speculate on unless your goal is shitposting.
>>86552188It's fun to speculate though.Ironmouse probably gets less on merch than Holomems. However, she does a lot of sponsorships, way more than anyone in Holo, including some fairly big ones. Who knows who makes more but she's up there.
>>86552441holos do sponsorships all the time too and with big brands. some holos are so busy with sponsorships and other work that they barely have time for anything else.like the other anon said, only a shitposter would try to speculate on imaginary numbers
isnt she doing a subathon like every day of the year
>>86552718Once a year, for a whole month, for the 3rd year in a row
>>86505514/thread
>>86486003Grifting.
>>86552441The biggest Holos pull in a million+ dollars easy with merch alone, and per merch run no less, so yeah. As for sponsorships, Holos do them all the time as well and really big ones at that. Juicy amounts from that seeing as they're from a big brand themselves. Hell just being featured in baseball at Dodgers stadium was massive the likes of which has never been seen before in vtubing.There are just too many factors to take into account. Is Ironmouse up there? She is. But without hard numbers, of which we'll never get, there's no point speculating.
>>86552718Once a year, the big bars are when she does them. The only time she is relevant, the rest of the year her average views are pretty consistent.
why does ironmouse get so much hate? she's a bedridden girl suffering from IDF. shouldn't we be cheering her on?
>>86544990>>86545783lmao this record becomes more and more pathetic, this is worthless.
>>86505514>>86510892>>86512404You are all retards, like actually there is something wrong with youThat number isn't the amount SHE gifted, it's the amount of total gifted subs to her channel
>>86555676And that makes her "powerful" how?
>>86555848Her? Maybe not. Her fans? Some of the strongest in vtubing.
>>86514073This entire image is a fucking lie, and it's incredibly easy to prove ithttps://www.twitch.tv/qtcinderellaThere's the channel that sent the raid in this image.Guess what? It's NOT the channel that blurb comes from.She made a second channel called QTEvents, which no longer exists.https://www.dexerto.com/twitch/qtcindrella-hits-back-at-scam-accusations-after-launching-twitch-re-run-channel-2526049/
>>86556129>Some of the strongest in vtubing.No, not really. Holofags spend the same amount of money all the time.
>>86556129How are they strong? Spamming gift subs doesn't do anything.
>>86556318>most subscribed streamer (not vtuber) of all time>doesnt do anything
>>86515354>YTfags: Twitch chat sucks, it's all emote spam!>YT chat:
>>86514156>>86514203>>86556199Lmao cope
>>86556409What's going to happen now that she's the most subbed streamer? Nothing.
>>86556430What are you talking about, that image shows that YouTube fans are right about this.
>>86556316As far as I know, the highest SC of all of Hololive is still Rushia, at $3M equivalent. She got there over ~2.5 years. Ironmouse got halfway to that total in one month.
>>86556409>most subscribed streamer (not vtuber) of all timeon twitch, which is worth nothing.
>>86556733>As far as I knowYes, and you are an ignorant person who knows nothing about the subject, not an expert.
>>86556842>on twitch, which is worth nothing.never thought I would see someone tribalfagging for jewtube on 4chan. Hope you're getting paid for this.
>>86556596>if we disregard her achievements nothing happenedTrue, but also equally true of everyone else. One day Pekora will die and be forgotten and none if it will matter, Ozymandias and all.
>>86557079What is she going to do with this "achievement"?
>>86557226I donno anon. What would you do with a million dollars?
best content creator huh? what's her best content ever created? gameplay and react content don't count of course but i don't have to tell you that
>>86548836She has Common Variable Immune Deficiency.In simple terms, her body's immune system is almost entirely nonfunctional.Even cursory research will show you that CVID is manageable and patients may live relatively normal lives when properly cared for, so you might think "well what's with Mouse?"The answer is poverty (and American healthcare costs). Her entire life before streaming, her family just didn't have the money required to get her the treatment she needed. Often they would have to pick and choose which medications she could have for the month.This meant that her immune system was in a constant state of varying compromise, allowing all manners of disease to wreak havoc. In particular, she contracted a MAC infection which ended in her having to rely on oxygen machines, which is one of multiple life-long complications she has to deal with.But since becoming successful as a vtuber, she IS getting better. Of course, her possible peak is much lower than "healthy" or "cured," but here's how she was in 2020>bedridden, can barely even sit up>can't digest food, requires intravenous nutrition and fortified liquids>had spent an entire year incapable of speaking and lost a large amount of her vocal register>significant disinfecting protocol for even just her mom entering her roomcompared to now>capable of walking around her house, standing without support and using a treadmill>can eat simple foods like rice and bread>has regained part of her lower register and can hold low notes with much less effort and for longer>can be around her family more often and with less caution (ex. years ago her mom would call her when she needed to talk, now her mom just walks into her room)
>>86557445Her music probably.
>>86557045and you are "tribalfagging" Twitch, which is more Jewish than YouTube.
>>86555848Who the fuck is talking about how "powerful" she is?
>>86557633Lmao
>>86557356Why can't you answer the question? Also what was the deal with calling her fans the powerful ones if you were just going to shift it back to her?>>86557756OP is, you fucking retard.
>>86557852I wasn't replying to OP, I was replying to retards who can't read a simple chart right
>>86557599This is a lie, but I can't prove it because the mods are going to ban me for doxing.
>>86558052That information is not the contradiction you think it is.
>>86557356spend them, but what does it have to do with the topic of the thread?
>>86486003Is she? I only know she exists because of you guys.
>>86558006The person posting the chart was replying to OP to disagree with them. All the discussion that follow is about that.
>>86558108It is, she and her fans exaggerate how bad her health was before.
>>86557802Mousey's music is better than holoshit music
>>86558228OK? I'm still not talking about how powerful Mouse may or may not beI was very specifically correcting an incorrect understanding of the chart
>>86558154Yes, why do you think we hate her?The fans of this rat spam this Board all the time.
>>86558233It really is not contradicting at all, and it doesn't take a lot of brainpower to figure out why.If you have a functional understanding of linear time, the answer should be fairly obvious.
>>86558312Lmao nope
>>86558440>really is not contradicting at allStop repeating yourself, I never said it was a contradiction.an exaggeration is also a lie.
>>86558467Yes it is.
>>86558625And that information is not proof of exaggeration, either.For the exact same reasons already stated.
>>86558467Show me a holomem performing a song this consistently. https://x.com/ENVTubersOOC/status/1832647562609713395I don't even say this to shit on Holo or say Mouse is a better singer than Suisei. But if you haven't paid attention you wouldn't have noticed she's surprisingly good at it.
>>86558756> nuh nuhgreat argument, stupid>>86558664>>86558930Shit taste
>>86489175You know she does stream with hasan right so he may want to kill america
>>86549485Okay and google is more popular than YouTube so you should stream on google
>>86559089Cope and seethe holobrony. Ironmouse is better than every single holo.
>>86550523Spoken like someone who has never actually been a vtuberCorpos choose YouTube because the cuts are way better and there's less moderation. In terms of discoverability, Twitch is much much better.
>>86558930As a Spanish speaker, this is terrible. She doesn't know how to sing this song, she ruined it.I also like that even the example you gave is a reaction and not original content.
>>86559240>latinx anime chipmunk sounds betterbau bau won
>>86489175> No retarded Twitter takes> No politicsShe says pro-tranny shit all the time
>>86559388>complaining about ironmouse voice>watches the holos who sound like they are from nick jr
>>86559089Listen buddy. There's only so much I can say about this, you know that.You think that X happened during Y period of time. It did not. Simple as.Mouse has said, on multiple occasions, that she had lived a mostly normal life before her diagnosis. There was even a period of her life where she stopped getting sick, which is common in CVID patients according to the IDF. Her condition in 2020 was not present from birth, it built up over time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_OuKhUXkOULike I said, if you can understand the concept of linear time, there is literally no issue here.
>>86558930Anon, she just sounds good here because she's haromising with herself. Not knocking her singing, but your ears are deceiving you hereIf you get 5000 untrained people to sing the same thing at the same time they will sound good because they are haromonising with each other
>>86559207>stream on google?????
>>86559603Stop trying to explain it to Pedro. He's made up his mind and he won't stop until he takes down the lying whore (exclusively through samefagging threads on 4chan)
>>86559207Anonymous, YouTube IS Google
>>86559388Are you seriously claiming that the teletubbies are the best vtubers in hololive?
>>86559607She's not harmonizing with herself, this is a couple dozen discreet karaokes of a song that isn't even hers. Very few people can belt out a song identically on command. It takes serious talent.
>>86559650it's got more traffic than youtube, so stream on google
>>86559817Anon, I need you to go and learn exactly what harmonisation is from a scientific perspectivein addition, I'm not doubting her technical skill but you can be the most technically talented artist ever, but that doesn't make you inherently better
>>86559388>Ruffian calling ANYONE "anime chipmunk"Holy lack of self-awareness
>>86559779yesbiggest sub count and ccv in their groupand their operators have the biggest buff imaginablethey're retarded
>>86559919Not sure what's so hard to comprehend when I say YouTube is more popular than Twitch. If YouTube didn't matter, then why do big Twitch streamers upload their videos/vods/highlights there?If you are not uploading stuff to YouTube, you might aswell not exist.
>>86559975Anon, that clip is Mouse watching a video where a fan lined up 16 different times Mouse sang La Camisa Negra across several months.She is not harmonizing with anything in any of those performances.>you can be the most technically talented artist ever, but that doesn't make you inherently betterThat's exactly what it means.Whether you like the technically talented artist is an entirely different, subjective conversation.
>>86560102>If YouTube didn't matterNobody said this>If you are not uploading stuff to YouTube, you might aswell not exist.It's almost like the two website perform two very different primary functions and that trying to perform the wrong function on the wrong website is a stupid idea and that total traffic is a terrible metric in which to tell someone they should stream on a certain website
>>86559975I know what harmonization is you're just wrong. She's not harmonizing with herself, she just sings the song identically every time.>that doesn't make you inherently betterI already said that.
>>86560202>She is not harmonizing with anything in any of those performances.Again, go read up what harmonisation actually is>That's exactly what it means.No it isn't because singing is a form of art and the subjective conversation surrounding that art is inherent to it
>>86559986Why do you ruffians dislike rest of hololive so much?
>>86559975You really need to stop coping, brony. Ironmouse is a much better singer than all of hololive's "popular" singers.
>>86560250I'm saying that you get more eyes on you if you upload/stream on YouTube than if you were to stream on Twitch only. Hololive is only streaming on YouTube and they are doing very well for themselves. And they are not the only ones.
>>86560313Why don't you go ahead and actually argue your point instead of telling me to do the work for youIf you're trying to say "yeah, well, it only sounds like that because they got lined up together" then... yes?That's the point? That she's so insanely consistent that 16 different performances overlap perfectly?
>>86560462>I'm saying that you get more eyes on you if you upload/stream on YouTube than if you were to stream on Twitch onlyNo you don't, there is a reason why nearly every single small indie uses Twitch> Hololive is only streaming on YouTube and they are doing very well for themselves.A. JapaneseB. CorpoC. Now reveal to me all the 0 views streaming on YouTube right now (hint: you can't because there's nearly no way to find them)
>>86560499She sung it at least twice in the subathon subsequent to that and those were also identical to all the others.
>>86560313>>86560499Also just because something is art doesn't mean there aren't objective, measurable qualities to its construction or performance.But I'm not about to have a fucking objectivism v subjectivism in art argument on /vt/
>>86560451I watch indies, I don't watch corpos>>86560499I'm not doing your homework for you. If you don't understand what harmonisation actually is from an audio engineering perspective then don't argue that she isn't harmonised.>That's the point? No the point is that as the number of singers increase within a song, the likelihood of that song sounding better than if any one individual sang it, increases. She is not singing the song perfectly consistently each time, hence why we can still tell this is multiple instances of her singing it just from the audio, hence harmonisation is occurring
>>86560615>Now reveal to me all the 0 views streaming on YouTube right now (hint: you can't because there's nearly no way to find them)Why do you speak so confidently about shit you know nothing about?
>>86560811I'm an indie vtuber, I know what I'm talking about. Jump onto YouTube's homepage right now and show me all the 1 views you can see
>>86560615There are YouTube only streamers who can get an audience. Both platforms are shit at discoverability, but with YouTube you still have a higher chance to get noticed due to the bigger audience. Especially if your VODs remain and don't get deleted after a week.
>>86560811NTA but I have no idea how to find 1views on Youtube either. I do know it's effortless on Twitch though. Here's the ones that are currently live
>>86560859Oh so that's why you hate hololive and japanese vtubers in general.Why are you moving the goalposts?
>>86560957That doesn't look like the homepage of Twitch to me.
>>86560763>the likelihood of that song sounding betterBut it doesn't "sound better"It just sounds like 16 Mouses singing the song, all of whom are doing so within such close margins to each other that they can, I suppose, harmonize.Had to go back to realize you were hung up on claiming she "sounded good" because of this harmonizationWhen it was never about her sounding good when there's 16 of her, it was about how consistent 16 different recordings were with one another.
>>86560992>random deflection away from showing 1 views on youtube to " you hate the japanese"Strange man you are.
>>86560859Anon, YouTube algorithm recommend you stuff based on what you watch. If you never watch streams on it they won't recommend it to you.Also here, I found one.
>>86559240I accept your concession
>>86559388Based
>>86561223Why did you move the goalpost?
>>86561253Sure, but I can go to Twitch and search for a game category I like. If I watched nothing but Runescape on youtube, the chances of me getting recommended a 1 view runescape streamer? From a small indie perspective, not having nearly anyway people can find you unless the algo blesses you as compared to Twitch's searchability, raid functions, and promotion of streams compared to long form content, I'm picking Twitch every time.
>>86561253inb4 the retard says just "wow you found ONE"https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=vtuber&sp=EgJAAQ%253D%253DHere's a bunch of channels live right now.
>>86561087The question was if you wanted to find 1views. The homepage is different
>>86559603>You think that X happened during Y period of time.Yes, apparently you read minds now>>86559739The victim complex that you have is impressive.
>>86561369I didn't. The entire argument is about which site is better for streamers. Twitch is better in nearly every metric unless you're a corpo or japanese
>>86561518Uou did wheb you demanded to be shown 1 views on youtube's homepage
>>86561458Great results anon. Stellar stuff lmao. 2 streamers, 3 24/7 channels
>>86561456Why are you moving the goalpost again?
>>86559457>>86559779>>86559985cuck rats really have shit taste.https://youtu.be/Yr1EI_jYBB8?si=F4KzDsUOYuvYZcah
>>86561456People don't just grow an audience just from streaming on Twitch, or even YouTube for that matter. You need to advertise in some way, either using YouTube and uploading highlights or using Twitter.There's plenty of 0view streamers on Twitch who will never grow an audience because people just watch the popular ones, just like on YouTube.
>>86561458Sure, now find one that is playing mech warrior 2. You will also notice how even under 'vtuber' nearly none have an audience because the audience on youtube in general is not for streamers it is for longform content.
>>86561601>moving the goalposts
>>86561512The only way you could think that it's some big "gotcha" that disproves her condition is if you have a false assumption of when it took place.When the truth is that it was some other time.Simple as.
>>86561601Is your scroll button broken?
>>86561581Yes and why do you think a test of a platforms discoverability is a different goal to seeing which platform is best for streamers?
>>86561681Why are you moving the goalposts? You asked for 1views and got them.>youtube in general is not for streamers it is for longform contentYou have no idea what you're talking about
>>86561625I didn't? The goal is still about platform discoverability which YouTube is shit at compared to Twitch.
>>86561681Here's a better search function, looking for VODs of playthoughs of Mech Warrior 2. Those stay there 24/7 and there's a bigger chance to get noticed that way than if you just happen to stream at the same time someone wanted to watch you play that game.
>>86561836You did. You claimed it's impossible to find 1views on youtube and now you're moving the goalposts to finding ones playing a specific game.
>>86561686I think it's okay to move the goalposts when the criteria was "show me 1views" and you show a pile of literal garbage with a 1view mixed in and expect to be taken seriously when your competition is this >>86560957
>>86561787Anon, I asked you to show me something as a point of comparison, not as an ultimatum. I'm well aware you can find 1 view indies on youtube
>>86561518>The entire argument is about which site is better for streamers.No, it was always what platform is more popular in general. Not just for streamers.
>>86561937Looks like the exact same pile of garbage to me. You just pretend the other one is worse because it's on youtube.
>>86562021The Youtube pile is worse because it's filled with channels that aren't actual streams. You scroll past those first results and in the next group of 5 you get 3 more AI channels with 2 actual people lmao.
>>86561971Wrong. You said this>Now reveal to me all the 0 views streaming on YouTube right now (hint: you can't because there's nearly no way to find them)You were shows 0 views streaming on youtube right now and than moved the goalposts because you were proven wrong.
>>86561863Or I as a viewer who is interested in watching someone play Mech Warrior 2 live, should I scroll through YouTube and pray that one of these vods will just coincide with someone playing that game? Or would I just go to Twitch and search for Mech Warrior 2?
>>86562109Again, it's the same pile of shit and you just don't like it because it's on youtube.
>>86562181You were literally just show how to see live channels and now you're acting like it's impossible to find live channels.
>>86561689>The only way you could think that it's some big "gotcha" that disproves her condition That's why it's not worth arguing with you guys, you don't know how to read.
>>86562005Therefore google is best site
>>86561863True
>>86562250>you can find this thing you want, just jump through 5 loops and do a backflipOr I can go to twitch, type in Mech Warrior 2 and hit enter
>>86562262Anon, you are acting retarded on purpose. Let the grown-ups talk.
>>86562258What did I fail to understandPlease, tell me
>>86562190The Twitch pile is actual people. You just hate them because they're on Twitch. But if you wanted to watch some small streamers you can find them on Twitch without slogging through garbage. You even get thumbnails of the actual streams so you don't have to click them individually to see what's happening. And if you wanna be really crazy like search a vtuber playing a specific game that's also easy. Check out the vtubers playing Monster Hunter on Twitch RIGHT NOW
>>86562337How is selecting the live filter "jumping through 5 hoops and doing a backflip"? Are you twitchtards seriously that retarded?Also you cannot find a mech warrior 2 stream on Twitch by just typing mech warrior 2 and hitting enter.
It's strange how rat fans defend Twitch so much. It's even suspicious, it's like they work for the company or something.
>>86561481Nigga the hompage is what pushes small channels in both sites.No one goes and says Mmmmm i watch a 1view today.Without mention YouTube recomend you even while offline. That alone puts it ahead of twitch discoverability
>>86562388Why am I going to explain to you if you don't know how to read?
>>86562543Oh, OK, so you're just full of shit 'cause you can't accept being wrong.
>>86562474For real, I know YouTube is dogshit, but Twitch is barely any better. The only thing that's different is the chat culture and all the TTS donations that annoy me to no end.
>>86562356>makes a point that popularity = better>NO NOT LIKE THAT
>>86562428>you can find them on Twitch without slogging through garbageThis argument again? You're really showing that you really don't know shit.Here's vtubers playing monster hunter on youtube RIGHT NOW.https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=monster+hunter+vtuber&sp=EgJAAQ%253D%253DWhat's your next cope? That there's too few?
>>86562513The homepage does recommend stuff though. It also has a constantly viewable sidebar recommending you people you aren't following. And these are all specifically streamers because you want to know what ACTUALLY kills Youtube discoverability? It's fucking Youtube itself. Streamers there aren't just competing with other streamers. They're competing with the millions of other people posting regular videos. Twitch cuts that out entirely so you're only seeing streamers which removes 95% of the competition that Youtube streamers face.
>>86562513Anon, I'm an indie vtuberNearly every single person I know within the indie sphere other than some hardcore JP Idol larpers, all use twitch
>>86562733Anon, you are stupid as fuck. You can't stream or upload videos on Google. We're talking about streaming and video sharing platforms. If you said TikTok you might have a point.
>>86562740Why would you click on any of those when you can't even see the stream?
>>86562736>1 English>4 non-English>Doom radio stream>24/7 Resident Evil longplay streamSo this is the power of the incredible and superior YouTube search algorithm
>>86562789Why do you hate japanese vtubers so much? What's with this grudge you have against them being successful on youtube?
>>86562812Ah, so the functions, features and userbase of a website is actually just as if not more important than popularity is what you're saying?So why is YouTube a longform content platform, better than Twitch for livestreaming if popularity doesn't matter?
>>86562736Now explain the steps you took to get there because news flash if you go to youtube and search monster hunter vtuber here's what you actually getBut if you want to see something really funny check this shit out
>>86562892Are you implying that there's tons of streams that just can't be found because of the search algorithm? You're going to have to prove that.
>>86562892>1 EnglishAnd he's not even playing MHW, so literally no people.
>>86562919I don't. JPs work on YouTube because the JP audience is on YouTube and not on Twitch
>>86562975>Filters>Features: LiveWow, needed a PhD to learn that
>>86562975>if you go to youtube and search monster hunter vtuber here's what you actually getWhy are you lying? And why are you moving the goalpost again?
>>86562975I fucking love Youtube's search so much bros
>>86562594I accept your concession.
>>86562789>im a 2 viewAnd it shows. Because every succesful streamer or indie multistreams and advertice on youtube because it let you be discovered WHILE NOT BEEN ONLINE. That is the only reason youtube is better it will recomend vod, shorts, streams in the side bar or homepage which has more recomendations based on content.Your shitty recomendsation side bar is bases on viewer patterns so you get recomened people that you know anything about.
>>86563016Why would that make a difference when the horrible search algorithm literally prevents everyone from ever getting viewers?
>>86562981I'm saying that YT served me streams that were entirely divorced from the search query
I like how this one YouTube anon keeps proving the Twitch anon wrong yet at every single turn the Twitch anon straw mans simply because Twitch anon can't handle being proven wrong. Hilarious to witness this unfold.
>>86563096You're going to have to prove that there's a monster hunter world stream buried under these unrelated streams to make the argument you're trying to make.
>>86563238Why does it matter if it does that? You had enough braincells to determine that the results didn't match what you wanted to see which clearly shows that nobody is streaming what you want to watch right now.
These side by sides are funny as fuck>>86563286Maybe there will be eventually. But what does it say of a search algo if you're getting Yakuza 5 when you search monster hunter world.
>>86563186Small streamers shouldn't multistream because it splits your already tiny community. All small indies know to make content for other platforms including YouTube. Stop pretending like you're some authority on content creation. We know all of this, but we are specifically talking about streaming. Streaming is better on Twitch.
>>86563211Because JPs have corpo backings.
>>86563386>Maybe there will be eventually.So you're full of shit and talking out of your ass then.Also I just realized that you had to add "world" and "rise" to the search to make the search not show any monster hunter streams as it would without those words.
>>86563469No they don't, but your hatred for japanese vtubers who are inherently better than you has become very obvious.
>>86563239To begin with, the argument is stupid.That Twitch is easier to find people is a pure meme, not based on reality.
>>86563394SMALLEST STREAMERS SHOULD TOYALLY MULTISTREAM BECAUSE YOU REACH MORE PEOPLE.no wonder you mofos remain small. Fucking twitch finally allows you to do it and you mofos are just lazy because you need to work a little harder to accomodate for a another platformWork niega Work
>>86563386tons of monster hunter streams showing up without world or rise added to it. just search monster hunter
>>86563286Y'know on Twitch if you go search for a game and nobody's streaming it, it just doesn't show anything at allLike you would reasonably expectAlso there ARE Monster Hunter World streams which can be found from anon's search link. At least 3 people are streaming MHW but that guy didn't get shown any of them.https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=monster+hunter+vtuber&sp=EgJAAQ%253D%253D>>86563374>Why does it matter if it does that?Because that means that the search engine is literally not functional.You know what's fucking crazy?When you search and click "Live" on the category buttons, it actually gives you different results than if you select "Live" from the Filters menu. Try it for yourself.YT search is just actually broken trash.
>>86563542World and Rise are specific Monster Hunter games. The newest ones in fact. If I wanted to search Monster Hunter 4U I might have more luck, but if someone wants to watch the new games they're not going to want to watch a janky 3DS emulated game. But here's your proof buddy
This thread is hilarious, the rat fans lost multiple arguments and still do not accept reality.
>>86563542>Also I just realized that you had to add "world" and "rise" to the search to make the search not show any monster hunter streams as it would without those words.Yeah because he wants to see World and/or Rise specifically. This is how normal people search for things, by typing in the specific thing they want to find.Just searching "Monster Hunter" could get you any of the games from the last 20+ years
>>86563611No you should not. The most important thing as a small streamer is growing a community, having your viewers split across two different platforms unable to interact with each other or feeling that the stream is disjointed is a fucking awful impression for a first time viewer.
>>86563726>The last result isn't even live, it's a 2 day old stream
>>86563597Ok
>>86563834This is peak twitch mentality.The communitt interacts in other ways bebidas streams. For example hololive twitter and discord. Previously reddit.If the content is good the community will grow
>>86563798i see one mhu3 and one mhgu stream, the rest are numerous world and rise streams
>>86564018So why didn't those streams show up when he searched for World and Rise?
>>86563659>Y'know on Twitch if you go search for a game and nobody's streaming it, it just doesn't show anything at all>Like you would reasonably expectWhy is that a reasonable expectation? Youtube search simply shows other potentially relevant content based on the search terms but you're acting like there's actually a million streams that match your exact search terms that you just can't find.>Also there ARE Monster Hunter World streams which can be found from anon's search link. At least 3 people are streaming MHW but that guy didn't get shown any of them.And those streams show up even with the search the other retard made.>Because that means that the search engine is literally not functional.How is it not functional? I already asked if there's actual livestreams buried under the unrelated results and you couldn't answer the question.One you retards earlier asked for "mech warrior 2" which doesn't even have a category on twitch and if you search for it you get anything but mech warrior 2. After I pointed this out the mentions of mech warrior 2 suddenly stopped. Explain to me how this is functional while youtube search isn't.
>>86564098fuck if i know, im just commenting on what i see. works fine when searching monster hunter so i dont see the issue so long as he's getting what he wants
truly the superior platform for live streaming
>>86564001I didn't understand, can you repeat yourself?
>>86563726It's almost like nobody's streaming Rise. How have you not figured this one out yet?>>86563798>>86564018>>86564098It actually shows every world stream with world added so I can only assume this guy is intentionally doing something to his search to not see them. Nobody is streaming rise.
>>86564165>Why is that a reasonable expectation?Are you being entirely serious right now?What the fuck else would you expect to happen if your search yields no matching results?
>>86564257I don't care about this argument, but it's obvious that you manipulated the system to have that result.
So the Twitchfag is a seething 0view who believes that every single japanese vtuber has corporate backing which is the only reason why they can get viewers on youtube.
>>86564001Anon, nobody will join your discord or r*ddits if people don't like the experience of your stream you mongloidYou're speaking as if you can just copy what Pekora does and get the same results, the rules are different based on your size
>>86564257lmfao>>86564329>Nobody's streaming RiseMaybe that's true. But can you be certain? Because otherwise I can definitely find Rise streams very easily on the other platform >>86563386
>>86564380search it for yourself
>>86564380You shouldn't fucking be able to manipulate the system, it should just show you what you asked for
>>86564342Have you ever used any search engine? When you write in search terms and there's no exact matches you will get approximate ones.Even your beloved Twitch does this but you mysteriously don't have any issue with it when it's Twitch.
>>86564397It's up to you to prove that there's a secret MH rise stream that can't be found because of youtube's search being bad.
>>86564481>Even Twitch does thisIt doesn't lol
