Tell the chef she is cute! EditionProduction kawaii:https://twitter.com/Prodkawaiihttps://www.productionkawaii.com/First Live Concert:https://youtu.be/wVhb43V3MbMSecond Live Concert:https://youtu.be/hQrNdJ4U7EUSong Covers Playlist:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgw0Icl_o0Y2Ogqdlux_YYhJnMPk8x3AxMerchandise:https://productionkawaii.booth.pm/https://otakumode.com/shop/label/Production%20kawaiiArt Archive:https://mega.nz/folder/WHwUyTJD#yBsru-Y8aiz6BtuRmlhVMg▼ Talents>Generation EONIA【Charlotte Suzu シャーロット・スズ】https://twitter.com/charsuzu_kawaiihttps://youtube.com/@CharlotteSuzu【Isla Coleman アイラ・コールマン】https://twitter.com/isla_kawaiihttps://youtube.com/@isla_kawaii【Nene Amano 天野寧々】https://twitter.com/amanene_kawaiihttps://youtube.com/@NeneAmanoChhttps://www.twitch.tv/nene_amano_kawaii【Reina Sun レイナ・サン】https://twitter.com/reina_kawaiiihttps://youtube.com/@ReinaSunCh>Generation novamore【Lua Asuka 飛鳥瑠藍】https://twitter.com/LuaAsuka_kawaiihttps://youtube.com/@LuaAsukahttps://www.twitch.tv/luaasuka_kawaii【Namiji Freesia ナミジ・フリージア】https://twitter.com/namiji_kawaiihttps://youtube.com/@NamijiFreesia【Shee Icho 銀杏しい 】https://twitter.com/SheeIcho_kawaiihttps://youtube.com/@SheeIchoKawaiihttps://www.twitch.tv/sheeicho>Generation Hanamizuki【Kaya Nishikino 錦野楓夜】https://twitter.com/kaya_hmz_kawaiihttps://www.youtube.com/@KayaNishikinohttps://space.bilibili.com/3493298966629107【Yuno Hanaki 華鬼結望】https://twitter.com/yuno_hmz_kawaiihttps://www.youtube.com/@yunohanaki【Ran Tsukiha 月蝶蘭】[Graduated]https://www.youtube.com/@RanTsukiha>Generation Ephemira【Hiyori Mokami 桃神日和】https://twitter.com/mokahiyo_kawaiihttps://www.youtube.com/@HiyoriMokami【Kohaku Yumekui 夢喰己白】https://twitter.com/Kohaku_kawaiihttps://www.youtube.com/@KohakuYumekuihttps://www.twitch.tv/kohakuyumekuihttps://space.bilibili.com/3546738539366728/【Lethe Bonapuchi レッテボナプチ】https://twitter.com/lethe_kawaiihttps://www.youtube.com/@LetheBonapuchi【Meimi Majokko 魔女っ子めいみ】https://twitter.com/Meimi_kawaiihttps://www.youtube.com/@MajokkoMeimihttps://www.twitch.tv/majokkomeimi【Navina Nova ナビナ・ノバ】https://twitter.com/Navina_kawaiihttps://www.youtube.com/@navinanova【Tomoe Carmine トモエ・カーマイン】https://twitter.com/Tomoec_kawaiihttps://www.youtube.com/@TomoeCarmine▼kawaii FriendsPrima >>>/vt//ppg+/Vereverie >>>/vt//vrex/Tsunderia >>>/vt//tsunx/V&U >>>/vt//vnug/Pixelink >>>/vt//pxl/Athy - https://twitter.com/owlthyRei Tadano - https://twitter.com/zinseifunTaiShabel Tonya -https://twitter.com/ShabelTonyaAuri Lunami - https://twitter.com/AuriLunamiFelynne deRouge - https://twitter.com/lynnerougePrevious Thread: >>86624169
Huh. So Meimi was live.
>>86651710She had a mahjong members stream
Feel better Nanonyan
Fellas, we are having a feast tonight, with these triple kawaii collabmaxxing platter.
Live:Hiyo Deadlock collabhttps://youtu.be/2viEA5YqFTQEONIA Baldur's Gate 3 collabhttps://youtu.be/ygTQCMnMJYghttps://youtu.be/4TNuHws4KM8Shee and Lethe Supermarket Simulator collabhttps://youtu.be/3jl_wEYaGWgTomorrow:Tomoe eats Nano's nanoshttps://youtu.be/0YKnQ51rhbINene ASMRhttps://youtu.be/zLqQdAUX6I0
>>86651879Feel better Nanonyan
Majokko Meimi is about to join Hiyori Mokami.
>>86652182
Does Reina like DnD?
NENE SAID THE THING. JINGLING KEYS.
key jingling mentioned in the EONIA collabThis is NOT a drill
reina can ensalve me
>>86652270>>86652272I need to edit Yuno out of this
>massive collab overlap>even Ms Bonapussy is on tonight
>>86652200All I know is, Reina loves Baldur’s Gate.
Hiyorin switched up her women
baldass gay 3 sucksthis game feels like it was made for tumblr girls
>>86652443Isn't it weird how neither Nami or Yuno have streamed it?
>>86652510Nami probably played it off-stream while masturbating
>>86652443I wish they were doing like tabletop simulator or something but they are being cute together and engaged in a way they aren't sometimes so I will take it
>>86652510nami saw how people reacted to reina/nene endless bg3 streams. and it's not like she doesn't have tons of other stuff she wanted to stream instead.
honestly DnD and other tabletop RPGs are mostly for women too nowadays
women hate me so much it's unreal
>>86652638EONIA playthrough when?
>>86652669My guy, it’s time for you to hagmax. They will want you.
DON'T BULLY CHARZU!!!
I am that dog stealing Isla's underwear
watching the pride and soul now
Going through last thread...and...I really didnt want to say this but you left me no choice.YASSSSS QWEEN SLAY Y'ALL INCELS SHOULD TOUCH GRASS!!!
>>86654448
>>86654448Shut the fuck up. We are watching streams.
I did not expect Meimi to say “I’m going back to yellow, daddy(me)” THANK YOU DEADLOCK
im gonna mu mei mo
>>86652443>baldass gay 3 sucks>made for tumblr girlshaving all the eonia girls around makes it more fun to watch than just having nene reload saving points to salvage her retarded dating routes
bwa to you to my beloved
Koha makes me think of impure thoughts...like...visiting India. *laughtrack*Ohhhhhhhhh I crack myself up sometimes...
Lethe... toothpaste is not edible. Fluoride is poisonous.
r8 Lethe and Shee chemistry
The kawaii girls all talking about stress at the same time is concerning
>>86656246thatswhat happens when you have a massive shift in company direction
>>86656246When I realized it wasn't something related to the bachelorette party with Nene, I started to worry. When two of them started it I started to really worry. I hope I am just a paranoid faggot.
>>86656334Like what? Your nijification agenda?
I love agency vtuber (virtual YouTuber) Ms. Lua Asuka of Production kawaii Generation 2 (novamore)https://youtu.be/k5cM-S8G4RQ?t=4958https://youtu.be/L-hUs3lac5E?t=2298https://youtu.be/tisDJbuJQ6c?t=15557https://youtu.be/YkK8Qyb2Jxs?t=693https://youtu.be/FacugYZY6hg?t=4076https://youtu.be/Q5LYUJMT8PIhttps://youtu.be/CEg5IM82ZyUhttps://youtu.be/Omc6G2511AI?t=6274https://youtu.be/HEduIcBKu1Uhttps://song.link/safebyyoursidehttps://open.spotify.com/artist/4rK2djeLDePuTTKJliiStjhttps://music.apple.com/us/artist/lua-asuka/1718476456https://www.amazon.com/music/player/artists/B0CP68CCWW/lua-asukahttps://song.link/luaasukaradioLatest covers:https://youtu.be/wgd1qCfUVeEhttps://youtu.be/4MgJVX8rpqMhttps://youtu.be/v_71Fhr0aSghttps://youtu.be/DkPQplRx2oohttps://youtu.be/tceWVMr-rRQhttps://youtu.be/dNu8Fvr4d7Yhttps://youtu.be/afRPQjxNWj8https://youtu.be/R7uiwbTx4qkhttps://youtu.be/jbWqMe1z-Uohttps://youtu.be/2tivSeY0iQ8https://otakumode.com/shop/label/Lua%20Asuka
https://youtu.be/6wxCuq2OltE
>>86656246>The kawaii girlsi havent payd attention who is stressed? the ones i watch didnt say nothing
The good news is, the kawaii cards finally arrived in the kawaii hq
>>86656636A few tomos have mentioned NeneIsla is stressed and can't sleepHiyo just mentioned at the end of her stream that she has been very stressed and we will find out why soon
>>86656707>>86656636add Yuno to the list of doom
Breaking News: Isla is doing another Battle Cats yap thread in X(formerly known as Twitter)
>>86656404maybe nene got knocked up during the totally seiso and not degenerate party and she is keeping the kid
you just know charzu saw that lewd fanart and is seething right now
gooned the charzu will do it again tomorrow
it was a good run
>>86659073https://youtu.be/L88r98G4YiM
>>86658063charzu was hot and bothered during the 1 dollar 1 kiss stream she is gooning it as much as fanpires are but wont break character that easily
>>86656246https://ceg.co.jp/news/corporate_release20240902/Could be related to Culture splitting off its video business and company structure changing.
>>86659337Huh. We are listed under music fwiwhttps://ceg.co.jp/about/group/
Was there any digging done about Culture? There was a bunch of black corpo shit dug up about Brave when they started buying up vtuber companies, would make even Riku blush. Is Culture pretty clean as far as Japanese corpos go?
>>86659466"detectives" could have done something useful, but nooooooooo
>Shee said the magic wordstressIt is all a coincidence.
>>86659466Its an old school jap company with their hands in multimedia, you would have to dig through the japanese internet to find something about them.
>>86659791Maybe the new talents are going to pull a gen 3 or Culture is trying to sell them after they got all their investor funds
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000104.000066676.htmlThey do have another vtuber group under them. Same thing where they aren't doing much with them.
>>86659927Lmao what a wild imagination. We’ll be fine.
>>86659294Whenever she acts up I listen to it in the background, damn brat can talk down to us all she wants, she's still covering me in kisses
>>86660095They seem erotic.Would a cross collab be kino?
>>86660095>they all made mahjong their thing>Meimi probably didn't even invite them to her Mahjong event>Culture couldn't swing them a Lua/Nene/Koha collab>/pkg/ won't even shill OR shit on themtruly they are adrift
>>86660214Lol I don't even think they are aware of each others existence.
>>86659390>under music>kawaii pumping out songs and concerts>girls stress concerts need do good numbersthose retard jap boomers think kawaii is actual idol music company first before streamers dont they......
>>86660095uzuki michiru, the rabbit maid, has 5k subs, and does a lot of asmr.
Guess we know who is their Nene who grows through ASMR.https://www.youtube.com/@uzuki_michiru/streams
>>86660436She's also the only one with a different outfit too, lol.
>>86660451oh theyre brand new
>>86660529They debuted last year, so they aren't really brand new.
>>86660529nvm theyre a year old with those numbers jesuswe're actually the good child
>>86660529No, they've been around for almost a year now. JP market is different so it's hard to say if they are crashing and burning but if our best was 5K after 11 months we would not be satisfied I know. I wonder if they have done this same song and dance we have and seen their more successful overseas cousins.
>>86660406You can do both but I dont think the last two gens want anything to do with the idol thing
>>86656246kawaii is FINISHED but it was a good Ran
>>86660676t.threadreader who lacks information
Hiyori's sub growth is picking up some serious steamShe's going to end up passing Kohaku
>>86660706Even if 3 of them want to sing they cannot be idols with how "own le incels" they all are
https://x.com/kiminomirai0302/status/1826171684199759919https://x.com/shirotama_1105/status/1826086135640240473https://x.com/yotsuyu_yume/status/1825702829602099229https://x.com/uzuki_michiru/status/1825505136690811018Look at this they get swimsuits.
>>86660836Before this I was looking at those sub growth charts being posted and seeing 30K/mo being on the outer bands of the leaderboard and thinking about how Nene has been holding about 1K/day. Long story short I plug Rin Penrose into a chart as a point of comparison and her line goes utterly vertical at one point. What Shee has is impressive, that was something else to see even if I know it was at the height of the shorts bump and idol pumping ad moolah in to juice the numbers
>>86660907They do strip Mahjong?
>>86660907Can we get swimsuit 3D outfits for sub 1K my guy?
>>86661025That would require the company to pay for that.
>>86661000trans vtubers are in demand especially in corpos
>>86661213testing out the shadowban huh.
don't be racist lah
Yeah only be sexist
>>86651993ty
Nano will cancel Tomoe's stream
>>86656246Kawaii is going to be dissolved or changed from the ground up into something that won't work for the original talents.This is why Nene has been talking about us finding her again if she does have to reincarnate as another vtuber.I am just shitposting btw, if this actually makes you paranoid it's your own fault.
I want Shee 3d sololive...
>>86666536Nene already appeared on the British channel
Hiyorin was so popular back then
zumi croakednano will croak
going to lick nano's nanos today
Reina is a dumb whore
What if Yuno doxx dropped and she is just a sssssssssmoking hot delicious tanned Asian goddess? Would you forgive her?
>>86671143Reina will forever be one of the biggest grifters in vtubing. She has zero redeeming qualities. She literally just got into vtubing to make money, and thats it.
>>86671176pretty much pretty much
>>86668541Hiyorin flopped like a bitch and should fuck off from kawaii with her male indie and micro corpo friendsI cant believe what kind of trash even joined this corpo. Literally yassss queen slay types trying to change the culture from the ground up.
>>86671580Hiyopi is out here making kawaii known to the plebs who only know kawaii gen 1 and gen 2 and have basically written off kawaii as a corpo, and this is how you thank her? don't come back bawling like a baby when Hiyotan gets poached by Hololive once they notice her. oh man, you're going to remember me that day.
>>86671664>making kawaii knownReina collabed with some of the biggest small/medium sized vtubers on the EN side and got nothing out of it.I've seen enough from this corpo to know what time it is when they think that collabing with males and other micro corpos will somehow lead to growth.Most of these girls will struggle to get even 10k on their next donothons. They are boring grifters that just do the same shit that dozens if not hundreds of vtubers before them did, and they bring absolutely nothing new to the table.
>>86671990You got start somewhere, small corpo and eventually big corpos. Hiyo is going to finish what Reina started. Hiyori is going to save kawaii. screencap this post.
>>86671664honestly, like someone already said, kawaii is way too bland and safe. probably even safer than holo en which is quite an achievement. all that networking wont do much if you end up checking out kawaii and realizing that its the exact same "act" with different vtuber models and voices.
Go to sleep Isla-sama
>>86672082>screencap this postI will do an oil painting of your post. Hold still.
>>86672110The issue with vtubing is that if you say something is too safe, they immediately translate that into "Oh you just want girls to act like trashy whores".No that is not what the argument is. Kawaii fans especially can translate that immediately to "Oh you want girls like Neena".Nah. This is what I like Lethe. She is not trashy but also not your copy pasted "uwu" cute girl vtuber persona that you already saw a million times before.
>>86672441ok smart guy, who is your copy pasted uwu cute girl vtuber persona in kawaii? lets see how much kawaii you actually watch.
>>86672110In your opinion, if networking won’t do much, then what would you suggest that they do other than networking?
>>86672635Nene, Shee, Isla, Meimi, Nano, Charzu, Reina.Nano tried to go the other way with that incest joke at the beginning, but was probably told off.This only works for Nene because if you do a toddler act and expect adult money, you better be GFE or something. Otherwise your audience will be a bunch of kiddies that never donate.
>>86673067He thinks dumping thousands of dollars in ads for fake engagement will help kawaii in the long run. Spend 1 dollar to get back 10 cents. Why do that when your own talents can network and advertise themselves. Hiyori has the right idea, now it's just a bunch of 2 view shitters like us but you just have to be at the right place and time to get lucky and start hanging out with the right crowd. At worst hiyori will have another corpo to hop on to if she ever drops kawaii, at best kawaii becomes more mainstream. What's not to love? Oh some autists on 4chan who never donate will get angry? Kawaii will live on with or without (You)r support.
>>86673272>incest jokenigga are you serious? is that what this is all about? they're uwu because they're not talking about bbc incest and hentai on stream to you?
>>86673067The truth is, you gotta have a strong personality in there that will draw people in. Someone like that is a better ad than networking or actually buying ads.The other part is fans themselves being shills, which I never ever saw in kawaii. Kawaii fans just sit in their discords, jerk each other off and gossip about other chatters.
>>86673481You are obviously ESL and dumb as a brick so talking to you is pointless. I already said that doesnt mean girls should be trashy. I just said Nano tried to be "different" by going down that route and using dark humor.And lets not pretend like incest is something edgy when most girls played that incest game and jerked off to it.
>>86673508nah Hiyori has the best kind of personality, the kind of personality you can't hate. Shee as well, they can yap for hours on end and bounce off of chat like they're talking to their irl friends.
>>86673605you're obviously a tourist or a brand new kawaii sorry i took your post seriously for a minute.
>>86673508Strong personality who does not do any networking, and rely on ads. I see.
btw respect to Nene finally getting involved in outside collabs like the one pillow asmr thingEONIA and novamore please do more external collabs
>>86673869>btw respect to Nene finally getting involved in outside collabs like the one pillow asmr thingI'm so happy for her, she's just a longstanding mainstay in the western Vtuber ASMR scene it would have been a shame for her to be left out
>>86673699>you're obviously a tourist t. Came to kawaii with ephemira or hmzkek>>86673797You are putting words into my mouth just to prove yourself right.>>86673396>He thinks dumping thousands of dollars in ads for fake engagement will help kawaii in the long runThis is one example of it. Your current post is the second one. You argue like a tranny.
>>86673994all those words and no substance.
>>86673994Apologies, if my statement offended you in some ways, and I am ESL. My intent is to not prove anything right, but merely gain insight from your perspective.
When Gen 3 debuted, Whorse and Depressed menhera gave you a recipe for success and no one cared enough to follow it. Or maybe they were just too proud to do it. Yes, that is why you join a corpo, to stay a mid 2view and not pander to your audience.Whorse abused the shit out of algo while flirting with the GFE angle (like Oceane) while Oceane went full on with spicy ASMR and shilled herself on a drama-tubers channel.If you didnt notice already, drama is a huge thing in this cancer community. Depressed Cucksagi and that "Parrot4chan" stream and have over 1k people watching them and more supas that kawaii girls ever saw during one stream.Pippa literally inclined with this angle. Lia "borrowed" that angle, went full on lolcow and did that Chris Chan stream which made her blow up and then continued to make waves that made people talk about her. Kawaii girls are just vanilla safe and boring. You tune in to get a cute "uwu" girl act and 3 topics recycled over and over again for 3 years already.
>>86674489Damn, I sure cant wait for 700 different vtubers to play Bunny Garden 2 and all make the exact same jokes!
>>86674489I refuse to play any dating sims and am retaining my seed until Tenshi Souzou Reboot comes out.Sex with imoutos!!!
>>86674588it do be like that
>>86671580What the fuck has Gen 1 or 2 done in the past two years? They haven't made any events or anything to promote kawaii other than con showings and birthday donothons. They'll kill Kawaii just by coasting on their seniority
>>86674682>They haven't made any events or anything to promote kawaiiNami and Reina got that one normietuber to go to Forever Bloom and make a video about it
>>86674772And how long was that again
>>86674658>yuzusoft vnanon you can do better
>>86674682>They'll kill Kawaii just by coasting on their seniorityHeh HMZ and EPM trannies and pro male collabers slowly revealing themselves.No wonder that their girls get more discussion in /pkg/ than anyone else.I am actually rooting for the threadshitter now.
>>86674829Well under a year and a half ago
>>86674908retard. ephemira are all likeable and worth talking about when they're all doing a bunch of extra work besides just streaming. >i am actually rooting for the threadshitter nownever go full retard
>>86674682They had a concert with 3k ccv just recently. Nene had multiple concerts with 500-600-700 ccv.She still streams for more people than most ephemira girls combined and her ASMR streams get over 1k ccv. Know your place dog.
>>8667496050 ccv Meimi and 40 ccv Nano will save kawaii. Trust the plan. Meimi is cooking something behind the scenes.
>>86674908I'll give you HMZ but Ephemira have only ever tried doing more new things and connecting outside of their small pond>>86675011So you're agree, gen 1 and 2 d nothing but the bare minimum
>>86675011nta but using Nene to represent gen1 and gen2 is cheating, can the rest pull their own weight already? Shee is doing her thing I'm excluding her.
Someone in kawaii, please do a Tropic Thunder watchalong.
>>86675126It has to be Charzu and you know exactly why.
Gen 2 has honestly aged the worst, and i'm shocked they always get a pass
>>86674960ephemira are pathetic flops, even their networking is a meme because it's always down to other talents and corpos to organize events and invite them
>>86675118Shee and Isla have more ccv on average than all of those girls without raids. Try again. Even Reina, one of the least liked girls in kawaii has like 80-90 ccv.
>>86675083Nano still doing covers and helping with company projects bts while her mental is cooked gets a pass from me, she is doing her best. I haven't been keeping up with Meimers so I'll let you have that one.
>>86675210Gen 2 has Shee, one of the most beloved girls in the company. I will trade entire HMZ and half of EPM for one Shee.She streams a lot and loves her fans. She recently got her playbutton. Something that is not very common among small corpos.
>>86675241ok first of all. I'm not trying to start a gen1 and 2 vs epm war ok? I just want them to collab more like epm is doing. second, you're just going to compare isla and reina to the rest of epm when they have a 3 year headstart like that? it's not fair.
>>86675258>doing covers and helping with company projects btsimagine being the kaya of EPM
>>86675238kawaii is their first corpo job, but you can tell they're hungry for more, they are eager to learn and it shows. Next year Hiyori, Meimi and Nano will be starting their own projects and inviting other girls. You will see. Screencap this post.
>>86675258>while her mental is cookedFor some reason I have zero sympathy for that because these girls willingly joined a vtuber corpo knowing that it will translate to extra work.They are either too dumb and do it anyways, or they think that the debut buff and all the possible income from it will be worth it.And when its not, they slowly fade away until they graduate. That will be Nano btw.Typical indie trash recipe. Debut, see if you pop off for 2-3 months, retire/fade out if that doesnt happen.
>>86675118Lua is 10k away from reaching 100k subs, and yes, I am aware it does not automatically translate to viewership. Her Ccv fluctuates, between 2view, and 3view. She gets a descent amount of dono, she sings well, and her model is sexo . We are all aware that her major debuff is timezone, but, in my opinion, if she were to stream in prime time NA. She would become one of the popular kawaii talent.
>>86675370Nano is actually entertaining though, my point is that she is not in the right headspace, you'd know if you watched her. also it has nothing to do with kawaii, its all irl stuff, if yuno yuno. back to my point, despite her irl shit, she's still doing work the best she can to help prop up ephemiera and kawaii, that's love, cuh. Nano cares, I wish her the best, she's a silly lil gal that deserves better.
>>86675336>I just want them to collab more like epm is doingSome girls are not that extroverted and prefer doing things solo. This is not Niji EN where every other stream is a collab with 5 people on the screen and 3 males lurking in their voice chat.I dont know why the fuck did you people get drawn to kawaii in the first place.
>>86675336>collab more to boost my friend's flop genepm is flopping like a brick even with collabs, usually it's the newest generation that lifts up everyone else in the company but ephemira pl frens want 2-3 years old dead vtubers to do boost the 6months old generation that was supposed to carry kawaii
>>86675533>Some girls are not that extrovertedI know that's why they can't grow. >every other stream is a collab with 5 people on the screen and 3 males lurking in their voice chat.some of the most memorable ephemira streams were when almost everyone spontaneously jumped on hiyori's VC, you could feel the unity. perhaps you have something to learn from nijien.
>>86675482>if she were to stream in prime time NA. She would become one of the popular kawaii talent.I believe this. Come back to America Lua.
>>86675512>muh irl shit>not in the right headspaceoh no another reina, even down to the retarded technical issues
>>86675622Both Nene and Shee grew without over the top forced collabs. Or maybe you think that Shee's 1 and 2view friends brought her all those subs and views? Get the fuck outta here.You are unironically that type of a brainlet who thinks that collabs = more ccv.
>>86675775>Both Nene and Shee grew without over the top forced collabsCOVID is over bucko
>>86675622>perhaps you have something to learn from nijien.Go back tranny. Go back sucking off Vox while he flirts with your oshi on stream.All Niji EN fans are just gays trannies, fujos and disgusting mentally ill shippers. No man follows Reimu just for her singing.
>>86675622>I know that's why they can't growEPM shitters can't grow either
>>86675775>who thinks that collabs = more ccvyes you idiot, the chances that someone who has never watched you increases when you collab with someone youve never collab with before. this is not hard stuff. I love Shee but she did initally get a blessing from the algo, she handled it like a champ and here we are. everyone's a slave to the algo, so even getting your name @SheeIchoKawaii in another vtuber's channel is a good thing for kawaii girls.
>>86675826Shee popped off way after COVID ended. Try again bucko.
>>86675890We've seen many collabs over the years that translated to barely any new subs or viewers. This is not new to us. You are obviously new to kawaii or even vtubing in general if you think that forcing collabs will be good for numbers.Guess what retard, most people tune in to watch their oshi, and chat interactions with the fans is one of the biggest appeals of small corpos. Start forcing collabs and see what happens. Go back and see the post that says "Hiyori has 200 ccv and only 4 guys chatting" if you dont understand what am I talking about.
>>86675775Shee and Nene got what it takes. Collabs may not give them more ccv, but atleast it will spread their presence wider. Some people may gain interest, and some will not. It does not hurt to give it a try. If you think, collabs ain’t enough, then what would you suggest that they do to grow even further?
Nami hit 50k!
>Reina collabs with Tenma, Lia, Runie, Clara and doesnt get shit out of it>These trannies are trying to convince me that Hiyori collabing with literal who's will make kawaii explode with popularityAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY LMAOThis reminds me of that small JP vsinger that had Suisei visit her channel and everyone was like OH WOW SHE WILL BLOW UP NOW SUISEI GRACED HER WITH HER PRESENCE.Guess what, no one cares. People stick around for the personality. If your personality is shit, no amount of collabs will save your channel.
>>86676000>most people tune in to watch their oshiyou must be new to vtubers, nobody only has 1 oshi, you can have 1 kamioshi and several oshis.>Start forcing collabs and see what happens. I know what happens when vtubers start doing cross company projects and collabs, Selen happens, Kanna happens, Dokibird happens. You're coming at this from the wrong angle, you think like a groomer, you would never make a good manager at a corpo.
>>86676062congratulations my guy
>>86676092And then they collabed fairly recently again, with Tenma, Lia, Nami and Reina. Did that translate into any new viewers? kek When they all sperged out about Twilight or whatever it was? It was boring so I tuned out.
>>86676092not gonna mention how reina doesn't even fucking stream after she does anything good?
>>86675890what a fucking retard, we've been over this, collabs don't increase ccv unless they are frequent enough that you start to build a shared fanbase, and the one you are collabing with is significantly bigger than you (leeching)collabing one or two times with random literal whos with roughly the same or smaller fanbase does nothing for ccv, EPM is doing exactly that (because they have that twitch trash mentality) and they got nothing out of it
>>86676110Oh my god, please go back. You are so new its painful.>>86676110>Selen happens, Kanna happens, Dokibird happens.You are talking about big sponsored collabs with somewhat relevant people. No one will invite you to do that if you are still a 50 ccv streamer, JUST because you play the same game as your somewhat relevant e-sports streamer. And spamming collabs wont get you there either.You know what, I think its pointless to talk about this anymore. Let EPM spam collabs and we can talk about this again in 6 months where we see where they ended up with all those collabs.If it results in streams with big names and sponsored shit, while improving their ccv and subs, I will admit that I was wrong. I'm not too proud not to do it.>>86676062Sex with Freesia. Congrats.
>>86676223you're wasting my time. fact is, we already tried your way, you have gen1 and gen2 living on a deserted island that is Production kawaii, the gfe girls, the no males allowed ever girls, etc etc. 3 years later and we've lost several paypigs to the traitors and others just fell out, can you guess why?Ephemira is trying new things, I'm all for that.
>>86676223>because they have that twitch trash mentalityI remember like 2-ish years ago, some twitch indies actually debunked "Twitch is a better platform for networking" and pointed out how collabs do nothing.EPM is trying to do the same, on youtube...2 years later lol. The absolute state...
>>86676302>You are talking about big sponsored collabs with somewhat relevant peopleoh was selen just liked by everyone and anyone the moment she debuted in nijien? you think maybe she did some networking bts. who would like that fat bitch if not for her extrovertedness and her workaholic personality? you only see the result you don't know how much time it took for her to get there.
>>86676062Congrats Nami!
>>86660836Is it the Stellar Stellar cover? I've noticed it's still getting 150-200 views per day which is very very rare for kawaii covers that have been out for a month
>>86676319So you are for male collabs? Noted.This is just HMZ/Yuno trannies posting lol
>>86676319what new things? flopping after 6 months?
>>86676410Selen had 2k ccv when she started doing that. She was already a fairly big vtuber and her main shtick was being an Apex streamer.
>>86676468im not for male collabs but I'm not delusional enough to think they can avoid males while trying to reach to new people for collabs. I'm ok with it as long as they don't start doing 1 on 1 collabs, theyll lose me then.
>>86676410selen was in the hanamori clique, the proto-nijiEN, do you even know what you are talking about lol
>>86676626holy shit what an answer. where do i even start.
>>86676469>>86676223That’s the problem. You’re automatically thinking they are a flop, which blinds you. New things, hello? Like organizing events, and inviting other small corpo girlies to do events. Getting invited to do events by other corpo girlies. I mean sure it won’t suddenly gain ccv, but it spreads their presence. It’s a slow process to grow nigga. What would you suggest then? Other than personality. If they have the personality, then what other ways could they grow?. If they don’t have the personality, then what would you suggest that they do in order to grow?
>>86676524these 2view males do nothing for growth, the only homos worth involving are e-celebs
>>86675238>always down to other talents and corpos to organize event and invite themHiyori organized a big karaoke relay for her birthday
>>86676795one event everyone already forgot about, wow
>>86676792Nigga fuck off, the fall guys one didn’t even had male interactions it. They just played the game with other girls in vc. I don’t even know what happened in the Yuno one.
>>86676795Nani also organized a big karaoke relay. I don’t remember the Japanese holiday it was themed on though.
>>86676900that's not what I said
>>86672110>bland and safe. probably even safer than holo enAnd I like that about them and want to preserve it that way. Phase Connect and VAllure are down the hall if you want to push the envelope.
>>86676964
>>86676964(me)Sorry for my eslness, Nano*
>>86677033
>>86676996looks like Tanabata
>>86676795>>86676964>two events in six monthskaya the mistake did more than them, imagine being worse than kaya
>>86676900Yuno didn't even stream her pov for that collab.
>>86674682>They haven't made any events or anything to promote kawaii other than>these things they are doing to promote kawaii
You nigs keep forgetting Kaya, the one who is organizing those Kaya matsuri concerts.
>>86677143true. kaya deserves more credit but i just dont like her personality so im biased against her.
>>86677132it's milestone stuff.
>>86676783collabs with literal whos don't work, they need to start leeching from someone big, for example pillow was propped up by v4mirai, kirsche became relevant through phase and pippa, miori has the Bae/holo buff... if you collab with other flops you just flop together, never upwards
>>86677091Why do I need to imagine if they are doing worse than Kaya. When they are doing a good thing to start their own karaoke events?
>>86677255problem is kawaii can't just collab with big names from the start, hiyori has to put her name out there, get in other people's mind until the big names notice her. every 2 view shitter is a step towards that.
>>86677255Kohaku is participating in the Pillow asmr event. Not sure if Nene will though.
>>86677143kayamatulis have more value than anything the epm pieces of shit have ever done and I say that as a the yimanposter
>>86677336hiyori is retarded because she went with the esport game networking route, the endgame there is a ton of male e-sport players and maybe doki
>>86677378Nigga, you keep forgetting, they just started. You’re expecting them to do a lot in the span of 6 months.Hiyo and Nano organized those karaoke events once, and suddenly it’s a flop or they didn’t do shit to you? Wait till they do more to make your judgement.
>>86676453To add to this, something really interesting about Hiyori's Stellar Stellar is how many likes it gets each. That means the song is being recommended to people who haven't seen it before AND are the proper audience that would enjoy the cover. Definitely a big algorithm win for Hiyo.
>>86677529That’s merely your speculation and delulu.
>>866775606 months is already half of their most important year as vtubers gone, without miracles like shee ad campaign they are just going to become more and more irrelevant. Vtubing careers are usually depreciating goods, they are the most valueable on debut day and it goes down from there.
>>86677529She didn't even go all in on that though.
tldr for those that don't want to read the threadHiyori was a good hire
>>86677592they might be using the same ad thingy they used to boost reina subs, her kpop videos were recommended a lot and you can see it in the commentshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_viy9n7Aj_Q>got this as a youtube ad, it's really cool!
>>86678047nah everyone in EPM was a flop hire, twitch hire, literal who hire, male collab hire, anything bad really
>>86676062ok now show me her second outfit's tits
>>86677143kaya and yuno are not true kawaiis they dont count
>>86678180If that’s the way you see them, then sure. Believe what you want to believe.
I’m not here to convince anyone. I just see this as a debate, to present and gain insight on both sides opinion regarding the state of kawaii union.
I'm looking forward to the Sunday collab with Maria twisty and finana. Hiyori is going to outcute them all and gain new fans. Hiyo is om the hunt (for new fans)
>>86678393is she after grifty's pissfags or feesh's antiparasocial fucks
>>86678180hiyo was a troon hire and a longboard hire, very neutral very demure
>>86678447Whoever donates subs and likes her streams.
Speaking of the transdog on a longboard, when is she going fulltime? Was it another donothon scam?
>>86678555>donates subsleast obvious ephemira pl astroturfer
>>86678558Around December
kawaii won
>>86678638,
>>86678638Meimi is the one who mixes up membership/sub, technically not a ephemira pl astroturfer
>>86678683sure twitchnig, sure
Look at this blue woman, fifty-thousand people used to live without her in their life, now it's a Nami town. I've never seen anything like it.
>>86678887I am happy for her but confused why I noticed this weeks before the official twitter did
>>86678875nobody says "donates subs" retard, twitch bitches call it gifting subs.
>>86678093not very likely. Advertising boosts views for sure but it does not boost likes.
>>86678333Need more girls that are ambitious and want to grow which is something they should be looking for whenever they open up auditions.
>>86678935stop digging, ephemira pl astroturfer
>>86679065ok you got me, I'm actually Meimi, It's always been me. All the posts you don't like? it was me, Meimi mu me mo
>>86678945it boosts everything if they serve it on other vtubers-related channels or to people with that interest
>>86679119post witch cunny
>>86678926Right. Where is the Nami 50k Celebration, and 50k outfit announcement.
more importantly where is Shee 3D Sololive?
>>86679554November
>>86679554Yeah what the fuck happened to that. Did Shee give a reason?
>>86678986The only one they got this round was Kohaku, sadly she's too much of a whimp to act as the leader and she doesn't have a clear plan either. Say what you want about Enchantasia (bitches and whores) but the fact that they got TWO diehard grifters with a good plan in the same gen was godtier hiring. It's not a coincidence that gen3 lifted up everyone in kawaii during their prime, clearly too good to be true.
>>86679513>and 50k outfit announcementThe outfit pipeline is 10 miles long from when Kawaii redid the points system because for years only Nene was able to hit their original milestones
>>86679211You are flat out wrong. It only boosts views because each ad-play is a view. That's why this extremely heavily ad-boosted video has over 2 million views and ~16k likes. That's a ratio of ~125 views per 1 like. By contrast Hiyori's Stellar Stellar cover has a ratio of about 2.75 views per 1 like.
>>86679701that just means hiyori ad isn't as boosted as the vnu one, kawaii has no money after all
>>86679831kawaii produce is organic, no preservatives or pesticides.
>>86679881>no preservatives or pesticidesvery accurate post kek
>>86679675
>>86679619we need more people with the whorse's drive (while in kawaii), she quit her job and went all in on vtubing like a retard, grifting all the way to 100k in less than 6 months
>>86680040>and went all in on vtubing like a retardYuno...
>>86680040She pretty much lit a fire under her ass doing that.
>>86679881it's not even organic, they just use small quantities of cheap garbage quality pesticides and preservatives so it's even worse than brave GMO vtubers
>>86680085You need to have a plan before even thinking about going full time.
>>86671580All of Ephemira needs to graduate. Gen 1 and 2 are enough to make kawaii a success
>>86680465You're a funny guy.
>>86680040Whorsefags don't exist on 4chan but if they did they would tell you that her prime was in kawaii, vtubers like her need structure to perform.
>>86680277Hiyori Mokami…
>>86680894her longboardman should support her vtubing dreams, the whorse did it alone
>>86676972>Mention bland and safe>He immediately translates that into "OH YOU WANT GIRLS TO ACT LIKE WHORES!"That was also talked about in this very thread and it was explained that being somewhat different doesnt mean that you should act like a whore. If you want a good example of this, look up Grimmi for example. Not a whore but not your cute "uwu" copy pasted personality either.
>>86681036>not a whore>not copypasted personalityyou're asking too much, vtubing is random Beckys down the street, without whore behavior or pre-made NPC personalities they have nothing most of the time
>>86681036I don't think you get it. I like the cookie cutter because it is actually shockingly rare. There is a vast landscape of what you are asking for out there for people to watch. I want seiso CGDCT. No men. Them being "literally" my girlfriend and idol concerts on top of that are nice cherries on the sundae that I encourage.
>>86677560>You’re expecting them to do a lot in the span of 6 monthsAletta reached 100k in 6 month and had a very successful donothon. EPM debuted, and lost their debut buff in like 2 weeks.
>>86681343different time, place, and context
>>86681343oceane was also on track but she doxxed out
>>86677840This is why I was always screeching about the vtubers debut buff being one of the most important periods ever. You can debut, do a debut 2.0 and then jump into "who gives a shit" casual girly slop games or tarot readings. First 2 weeks literally need to be all fireworks if you want people to notice you.Dont know whats the issue with kawaii. Maybe its a management problem and getting the right perms, or girls not being allowed to plan their own content or just being lazy in general.As a holo or someone big, yeah,you can debut and then play some slop 4 days later and people will most likely stick around. As a small corpo, your ccv evaporate. Happened many times in the past to many small vtubers.You are either a strong personality that keeps peoples attention or you are a very very good gamer or very strong in a certain niche to attract that kind of crowd. If you are none of those, good fucking luck.
there is no way tomoe beats the kawaii record for cake eating. but it is good to see another challenger
>>86681375EPM losing their debut buffs so fast has nothing to do with the gen3 incline but keep coping and making excuses for your flop hires
the nanofag mikiposter knows all about dogshit debut weeks, post the Uta debut schedule lmao
Sup Kawaiifags, how are you taking the impending death of v-dere?
genju arsterrorist on his dads credit card
>>86681955we will die before them
>>86681522Unironically saying "Dont expect anything crazy from this stream" lol This is always a good strategy.
>>86681955Vdere death ? They have a gen 2 on the way its just mozzu lol. I look forward to my well blended black rum pina mozzu tropicana wangobango colada
>>86682196she lowers our expectations all the time and it really does work
Nano's nanos
Tomoe reminds me of my ex. Literally like I'm listening to her. Even the mannerisms are the same. And much like Tomochi, she was pretty sickly all the time.
>>86682936>And much like Tomochi, she was pretty sickly all the timeTomoe hasn't been sick in months...
Tomoe...>Pterodactyl = pointy one that fliesThis woman needs to narrate a dino documentary. I would watch the shit out of that.
>>86682995Tomoe said very early on that she has issues with her anxiety and breathing. Hence her running to open her window and close her window a bunch of times during her streams.She also said that being in big places like malls make her extremely anxious and she feels like passing out. Those are just some examples among many other things.Sick girls company. Nami, Shee, Tomochi, Hiyo with all the transitioning pains *ba dum tssss* nah I'm just kidding.
Tomochi : I need to share booba with the family.Dont you dare take this out of context.
>>86678047still gonna shake her
>>86682891I regret not suggesting the tomoe butt image now. that would have been so aamzing to see on the cake.
>>86683245That wouldnt be a cake it would be a muffin.
>Is it chewyits a fucking cake genjutsu u spastic retard
>>86683307Cake can have a pretty wide variety of textures depending on how its made
>Eating out my vtuber genmatewould have been a clickbait title Tomoe
Chinese wife love. LOVE!!!
is she still sucking off that greyname producer?
>>86683483She's rotated to arsfags this stream
>>86683460shut the fuck up aster
>>86683507shut the fuck up cuckiddo
>>86683483You know what, I watched Tomoe from the start and I didnt understand even when people from here tried throwing around those "she already has favorites" narratives. I feel like everyone gets read no matter who or what they are. Those that chat more often tend to get read often, like CuckSteve for example.
>>86683625ConstructionSteve is in her chat like once a month...
>>86683625>keksteve>I watched tomoe from the startbaffling larp
Tomoe's pink nipples
>>86683661>>86683726No I'm not saying that he is in her chat. I'm saying that people that chat a lot like him, get to read a lot because their messages flood half of the chat all the time. I've see him in Meimi's, Koha's and Hiyo's chats.Buncha jumping to conclusion faggots.
>>86683593kill yourself el terror arsfag
Tomoe just fed us on stream. Later virgins!
Omg Koha is in Tomoes chat*sits up straight and fixes hair*
>>86683840The greyname producer got his messages picked out and got an inside joke with tomoe, that's beyond keksteve attentionfag level. Hiyo has her chatty mods, Meimi is similar but with more cringe trannies in chat, Nano has her 1view indie friends, you name one type chat cancer and one in ephemira has it.
Tomoe >Do you guys eat food that is a 10 out of 10?Yes. I recently found a recipe for this biscotti cake and honestly, I'm not saying it just because I made it but holy shit, one of the best cakes I ever ate.
>>86683136passing out: low blood pressure problemwindow opening: late spring/summers are hot afshe does have an actual problem, stop making shit up so that she fits your gf fantasies
shut the fuck up scott
>>86684191Nah. Going to open a window because you're hot is different from rushing to open it because you feel like you are going to suffocate inside.
how come nobody ever name drops me here?
>>86684293You're clearly not well established enough, sorry anon, do better
>>86684293troon out in chat and you will get namedropped
>>86684293I dont know, I cant figure out the method either. I was in /wvt/ since the /jp/ days, hopped around Tsunderia and every other small early corpo right up to today and i've never found a single mention of my name in the archive
>>86684188My bad its not biscotti its a lady finger cake.
>>86684408you have to do something irredeemable
>>86684293You're not interesting enough
>>86684293you need to become a bbc unit
>>86684293The secret is to namedrop yourself here heh
Tomoe is a silly goose
>>86684565Red Grizz....
>>86684293we namedrop you on discord heh
>>86684409https://youtu.be/JbepN4dKLbU
>>86684664shut the fuck up vesperam
>>86684278the only time when she was actually in distress and rushing somewhere was when she ate mayo. you are delusional my friend>>86684293we are both unimportant regulars, its peaceful dont you think?
>>86684293A lot of people never get namedropped. With how only Ben and Ian are ever mentioned you'd think that Charzu only has two fanpires watching her.
shut the fuck up Writer
Tomoe and I will make babies in astronaut suits with just one hole for "docking" in between us. No germs for me and my Dutch wife!
>>86684834Ben is good peoples and deserves Charzu's virginity. Ian is a troon. t. not Ben
lol Tomochi is a weirdo. CUUUUUUUUUUUUUTE!
Cakes over, you can all fuck off and stop watching Tomoe now you tourists
>>86684920>my ex- my ex job
>>86685228>tourists>100ccv for handcam+eatingephemira being a flop wasn't a meme
>>86684834The local parrot picks names and drops them as his addled mind dictates. There is no real reasoning.
>Any Germs in the chat?
I like Tomoe hand movements during this.She studied under Marcel Marceau.
Cargays cucked by random german guy on a train
>>86685461shut the fuck up meimi
shut the fuck up Coronas de Laurel
>>86685680grim for KEKEDgays
>>86685680she escaped asap. that exactly how she would act if any of us here randomly met her and started talking to her.
>>86685863cargay cope
>>86685863maybe (You)
I saw Tomoe's reflection. she's a total beauty bros
>>86685863>he's not a sun tyrone who smokes weed with her
Tomoe met her daily goal!
she looks like a transbian
>>86686653nano will cancel
>>86686807she will cancel hunger with those juicy tits u right bestie
Tomoe is very cute
>>86686060>>86686144have guys ever heard "to whom it may concern" lmao
I want to color drop Tomoe's nipples.
>>86686990cargay cope
Tomoe doesn't like when people insult her. She's so weird
>EPM don't do anything>Compare to whorse who actually didn't do anything except randomly blow upEPM are being included into the big small corpo eventsHiyori did 24 hour stream into a kawaii hosted relayNano hosted a PAM-style concertKoha is streaming on 3 different platforms in 3 different languagesThere are so many collaborative kawaii song covers and other projects that EPM are headingIt's clear you're only looking at results and not effort so just say so instead of pretending they aren't doing anything
>>86687272I'm hoping Ephemira inspires eonia and novamore. nothing more.
>>86687272you are completely right but pls dont alert the drama fags
>>86687272>EPM don't do anythingno one said this, they do stuff but not enough, not in the right direction and they are generally flopping even with "effort"
>>86687272>Compare to whorse who actually didn't do anythingWhorse streamed more than anyone besides Nene and networked so hard she got a collab with fucking Neuro at the height of her popularity
>>86687272CTRL + F flop my guy. He doesn't care. He doesn't watch streams. He posts to provoke you or the girls.
>>86687370oh so now they're not doing enough? nigga stfu.
>>86687399some of them aren't doing enough, some of them are spinning their wheels in 300 directions and going nowhere, some of them are going in the wrong way, Ephemira isn't one vtuber
>>86687315Those 2 were streaming for a long time. Cant wait to see EPM in 2 years and their level of motivation, if they even LAST for 2-3 years. Do you understand what an anomaly gen 1 and 2 are? Most vtubers just quit after a year or even less than that.
>>86687315Gen1 and gen2 are waaaaay past their prime, you can't expect geriatric vtubers like them with mostly dead channels to boost a new gen, that's not how it works. Ephemira wasted all the buffs it had, management doesn't do enough.
>>86687563>Most vtubers just quit after a yearThe shark ran out of juice after less than a year. I remember watching her and her saying "I ran out of things to talk about I gotta take a break to get something new to talk about during the stream".And she also said that she cant play minecraft and zatsu at the same time because she has to focus. lmao Focus during minecraft? That is like a prime zatsu game. This is one of the most worshipped vtubers on the EN side btw.
