What can we learn from this?
>>86668466that Sana graduated over 2 years ago
>>86668466Hololive isn't as explosively popular as before. I'd even say their growth hit a plateau. They're still massively popular but their cultural reach is pretty limited compared to the now much more prevalent ironmouse and company.
>>86668466Ina isn't to be trusted for nepohires.
>>86668672literally all of them have more subs than mouse retard lmao
>>86668466All of them get higher ccv than Sana did 2 months after debut.All of them will have more subs than Sana in a year.
>>86668672They need to target youtube kids if they want to expand, although it's likely the fanbase would end up being filled with manbaby mommyfag hag-loving adults instead
>>86668672Use HololiveEN and not Hololive as whole, but you're still gonna get called retarded anyway.
the fucking industrial tier cope from hololive haters lmao
>>86668672Ironmouse averages 4k views on a platform that counts people not tabbed in, unlike YouTube.Ironmouse can't fill a 40k venue.Ironmouse doesn't have sponsorships from McDonald's, taco bell, Nintendo, the dodgers,.toyota etc
>>86668775Ans the lying holocuck exposes himself
Pity subs given in a different time are very hard to compare to anyone else's metrics.
>>86668672>much more prevalent ironmouselollmao
>>86668890Why lie?
>>86668926Sana was way more popular than /vt/ likes to admit or remember. Every gen has its runt, but she didn't do badly at all and easily could've been one of the stars of Council if she wasn't working outside of Hololive.
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>>86668775>comparing Youtube subscribers (clicked a button) to Twitch subscribers (paid 5 bux)(You)
>>86669015Oh cool, she can get a fourth of a Pekora/Miko during her subathon E-begging event.Now post her normal numbers during another month. I'll wait.
>vtubing isnt as popular as it used to beNext thing you’re gonna tell me fidget spinners dont make as many sales as they used to.
>>86668844Well yeah, OP posted HoloEN. Hololive's cultural impact is really limited to Japan.The vast majority of normies have no idea what it is, whereas ironmouse has been making waves in the normiesphere.
>>86669049Knowing what she looks like irl makes her model even hotter
>>86669124are we really doing this again
>>86669158It's a shame Gura is semi retired or she might have been able to leverage that sponsorship to grow the brand. But as of now, it's a one and done deal.
>>86668672justice hit trending on their debut using the existing fanbase as a multiplier. They really should have just released an english song or kept uploading consistently.
please pass the copium, I'm tired of winning
>>86669098>the same peko that couldn’t even get more votes then ironmouse
Why is Raora significantly ahead of CC? Like that's a surprising gap considering CC seems to be the star...
>>86669158This event could have actually served to increase their viewers in addition to showing prestige by making use of the resulting curiosity. If only most of them weren't out of commision during that time.
>>86668466yeah council did better than they expected
>>86669195She's been semi-retired from streaming for two years and that sponsorship happened this July.
The vtuber hype is over.
>>86669307>votes are worth somethinghow new?
>>86668519wrong board frogman
>>86669307You know damn well no one's is winning any award with pity queen in there, Be Like taking candy from a baby.
>>86668466Sana is eternal
>>86669307Call me when ironmouse fills a venue this large. I'll wait.
>>86668466>What can we learn from this?trust me when I say this... there are so many good liggers on twitch that I didn't bother to go back to holosphere
>>86669601Still posting the shitter that lost multiple most watched vtubers to kuzuha and ironmouseGRIM
>>86669409So did it grow the brand? Where is the big influx of jock fans in hololive
>>86669611Name one ligger that doesn't:>collab with males>constantly talk about sex she's had/having>create react content>openly have a boyfriend>constantly get involved in petty drama
>>86668466I keep learning against my will that OP will always be a fucking cocksucking retarded miserable faggot
>>86669726>ACTUALLY THINKING these are disqualifyingYou get the slop you deserve
>>86668466Cover refused to change her model after she expressed discomfort with the design. Same situation as Flare where they kept promising for years until they finally caved
>>86669793ok cuckboy
>>86669793>You get the slop you deserve
>>86669796picking Flare as an example when there was Irys and the 2 EN homos
>>86669793You can't convince them because, parasocial fucks like you vs unicorn is a different breed.
is hololive having another big event thing? I haven't seen this much coping and seething in a week
>>86668466Wasn't ERB a 100k ahead of her gen mates?
>>86669124>limited to JapanI find it interesting how the vast majority of subs in HoloEN are dead subs. I bet most of them are just japs who subscribe to the holo brand. It's why Fuwamoco tried so hard to pander to them (and failed).
>>86669904Holo 7 days to die.Reminder than enreco got more views than every other EN corp overlapping them combined times 10.Holo GTA had 300k ccv on certain days.Hololive almost has 50% of the market.
>>86669611Name three
>>86669904Nintendo recently announced it was opening a company museum with hololive collaboration on the opening ceremony.
>>86669974>300kliterally stole all of mouse's subscribers
>>866699872/3 already left the twitch shithole for greener pastures
>>86669861Irys was a design mismatch for the company and clashed with Promise, which is different from personal distaste. Irys still kept her design and brand, they merely swapped the art style. Flare wanted a design change that changed her design's external personality
>>86669358Ceci is flat, people care about that
>>86669994That's nuts actually
>>86670001
>>86668466That OP should be killed for posting shit like this
>>86669974And ironmouse mogged every enreco pov whats your point?
>>86670176do mousekeks have some sort of humiliation kink like nijisisters
The only thing I've learned is to avoid any retard that cries about Sana, she didn't even stay a year let alone do anything memorable or worth of merit, hell she barely streamed at all to begin with and they put her on such a high pedestal is beyond absurd.
>>86669015not here to anti mousey but I do not trust any numbers from twitch, the one website that gets caught fluffing up numbers at least once a year
>>86670311Name one thing Raora does better
>>86670176lol
holoEN is not adding anything, every gen has a smaller window
>>86670524Explain Fuwamoco destroying Fauna 2 years later then when Fauna is apparently one of the biggest ENs
>>86670475Now I know why is there Mousey vs Hololive ITT, fucking ennacuck is here.
>>86670451Stream.
>>86669358Raora is actually really charming, is cultivating a good relationship with her chat, and streams at a time that was previously pretty much dead for EN.
>holo vs holook which corpo that's not hololive had a yab today
>>86670377
>>86668763>he still believes this rrat
>>86670711>Raora is actually really charming,So is CC>is cultivating a good relationship with her chatI guess this is a CC weak point for she's kind of like an episode you watch, but there's no deep connection to HER. >streams at a time that was previously pretty much dead for ENCC sometimes stream at dead euro hours, but I Raora's timeslot still doesn't justify the fastest growth in her gen. She'll be #1 by the end of the year.
>>86670838Lovely snek
>>86670575that shows the potential audience one outlier is willing to work for
>>86670838Memoryholed
>>86670838yes there are bots in some streams, but usually on youtube it all gets scrubbed as soon as youtube recounts it all on the vod, tried it last year and youtube will just remove anything that looks like a bot and nobody really gets money from using themwith twitch it's the platform itself that gets caught by advertisers and has to backpedal and remove loopholes after the fact
>>86670838jesassss
>>86668466Each graduation kills the hype, especially in the west.All ex-holos should be put in a new contract, similar to the affiliate oneThen "hire" them once in a while as "voice actresses" for their side projects, like voice drama, games, etc.But Cover is a JP company.Their PP energy is not big enough to pull off a stunt like this.
>>86671285or because people want to quit and not be "affiliated" anymore
>>86671206>as soon as youtube recounts it all on the vodAnon the entire point of botting livestreams is to make it seem like more people are watching at the time so that the algo will recommend the stream to more people and those people are more likely to click in (I'd rather watch someone with 5k viewers than someone with 5)Youtube bots still matter a lot and any company not using them is objectively screwing over their employees.Why do you think Holo started with 50 employees being forced to watch every one of Sora's streams on multiple devices? Numbers and fake engagement matter a lot for making it.
>>86671206youtube also undercounts viewers by a significant percentage, but numbermonkeys will hold the site up as the "true" count because it's ultimately just backwards-justified tribalfaggotry
>>86668775hololive gets more viewership than the superbowl does too!!! hololive is the MOST POPULAR thing in the universe!
>>86668466We learned something about you.
You can slap the Blue Dorito™ on a literal vtweeter tranny and he will gain hundreds of thousands of subs Cattle has more independent thoughts than Holobronies
>>86671478At the time everyone thought it was a hot woman with a cool design. They forgot to unsubscribe because there was no activity to remind them of their sub. Stop being a retard.
>>86671344Some of this is true, and it's an old trick. But retard faggot like this one >>86670838, it’s done maliciously. Just keep in mind. No company will bot their talents like this.
>>86668466People who post these shirts bait threads should be shot out of a cannon?
>>86669726the trouble is i know you also meant to include>speaks englishin that list too, since it's easy to find people that fit the rest of the criteria as it is, they're just japanese.People like ukyochi or milk cnannel
>>86670176Iron mouse is trash who actually unironically watches her?
>>86671206the entire point of bots is to boost your stream visibility in the moment which youtube does nothing at all to prevent
>>86671515you missed the point dumbassCover can grab the most hated female streamer, rebrand her as a Holo and the same holofags that never watched her would become her eternal simps praising her every stepDouble standards plus worshipping a corporation, it's the cult of Yagoo
>>86671785yeah but from my experience seeing people try it all it does is get you deranked into hell, it's the reason why you don't see most of the crypto scam streams even when they manage to pull 75k ccv
>>86668672IM fell off, even with a big sub a thon she is forgotten 2 days after lol
>>86670451She actually bothers to stream.
>>86669726this >>86671758hell, Patra who is 2nd in the indie slice on here >>86669974 fits the billdo your reps
>>86671932IM plateau'd two years ago, we're very far from the clip invasion era where she was literally all you'd see on youtube and her content just turned into the same shit over and over again
>>86671341It's a new type of contract.They can offer it to some of them.It's just gonna be like a small voice acting job once in a while.Some of them would probably take that offer.I'm talking about all ex-holos from all branches btw.
>>86671890nah it boosts your stream exactly like you would expect. on the generic live page it would be all botted streams until you scroll way down if it weren't for a league tournament and speed being massive.
>>86670295Yes
>>86668507>pagpag filename>Indonesian flag
>>86672086Thanks Cover insider. /vt/ was just making shit up because they didn't know.
>>86671889Cover doesn't do that though, which is they they have the reputation they do now. You're putting the cart before the horse. Your argument is literally 'what if Jack Dempsey was actually bad at boxing, he wouldnt be so famous now then would he heheheh'.
>>86672535they most certainly have done that on the jp side
>>86672346Pagpag is Filipino you retard. Be more educated and you can be racist accurately.
>>86670475At least post non botted one
>>86668466Locking people inside for 2 years has them consume more online entertainment, and whichever thing that happens to be gaining traction at that time will become popular out of its depth for a short time.
>>86672659isn't philipines and indonesia two countries on the same island
>>86672588that's a funny thing to say for a schizo vagueposter who doesn't even watch jps
>>86669043Nah, Sana was never as popular as her genmates, you are coping.
>>86672740you got it all wrong, i don't watch ens. also the vagueness is required by /vt/ law.
>>86672730Idc & Idk but my Indo and flip friend can sometimes understand each other word. (similar)
>>86672808sure thing sissy
>>86668466That I miss Sana and her Jupiter sized tits.
>>86668827So ruffians?
>>86672791I literally said she was the runt, but that doesn't mean she was doing badly, just how Flare isn't doing badly compared to girls outside of gen3. Sana had the most potential in Council by far, but she chose chink cock over the golden ticket job.
>>86673035ruffians aren't mommyfags, they're just fags
>>86668466Do not release a new gen every year. Wait at least two years between each gen to build up hype.
>>86673517I'd prefer a mid gen every year if it means we get no new males wasting resources for the girls
>>86673517The wait between 2 and 3 were very rough years for holo en.
>>86668466We need more streams like thishttps://files.catbox.moe/xtfk0v.mp4
>>86668466that advent is botted as fuck
>>86668466That the EN girls need to start multi streaming on several platforms.
>>86669095How many of her subs were donated by the same few whales? 50%?
Why aren't these threads exiled to /trash/?
>>86675165 More than 90%: >>86670119
>>86669974>neo-portesame market share as the neo-geo back in the day lmao
>>86675250I don't watch twitch. Is this the equivalent of a few parasocial FUCKS giving a vtuber 90% of their yt gifted memberships?What's the fuss? I don't see why this achievement is remarkable.
>>86675493its for le charity. well half of it at least
>>86668466hololive needs another coof virus?
>>86668466 >What can we learn from this? almost nothing? ERB is fucking aids, but the people seem to eat her up
>>86668507fpbpKill all numberpags
>>86668466It took Saner the better part of a year to get there, but sure, compare that to girls who've been at it for barely several months.
>>86676174ERB's avarage ccv is much lower than her genmates. Subs at this point mean nothing. The others will likely gain on her soon because she barely streams.
