>10/20will you be there?
buy an ad
>>86695365HOLOTHREADHOLOBOARD
>>86695365go back
For posterity’s sake only, otherwise I’ll just wait for the ‘log threads.
>>86695422Holo Affiliate
>>86695280First of all buy an ad.Second of all, no I won't. Fuck off and die.
>>86695280I unironically have no idea who the fuck this is.
>>86695280Probably not no, I don't dislike her or anything but I'm not watching Twitch If she has a VOD channel on youtube or something I'll consider it
>>86695596Just like your parents
>>86695280Can't wait for all the numberfag threads because of all the dramatourists that will be watching her.Followed by all the grudgeposting because of her reaching 3 view status 2 months laters.
>>86695701she’s simulcasting on both youtube and twitch
>>86695280Fuck no. I'll be /here/ watching you retards live post about her.
>>86695422what does some random indie have to do with hololive
>>86695822Proof?
>>86695280Hard pass
>>86695618Ame's next incarnation.
>>86695596Nothing wrong with that
>>86695964I just know
>>86695818cute
>>86695280fucking up already by not streaming while the iron is still hot. a lot fewer people will be interested in her in 2 weeks
>>86695964https://youtube.com/@dooby3d?si=IX3UXKYwed1AcL5Hsays so in the description
No I'm not into NTR
>>86696107thanks>>86695997why not return to her most recent identity before hololive?
>>86695280her yt says Sachi, who da faq is Sachi? I want jumping mouse only
>>86695280Any good thread name?/doob/?
>>86696167But enough about Phase Connect
>>86695280I will 100% will be there. But it depends on her and her content if I or the many others will stay to watch.
>>86695280it looks promising https://youtu.be/fmJaP859kdY?si=kj8VJ-1siQNuiRzFhttps://youtu.be/fmJaP859kdY?si=kj8VJ-1siQNuiRzFhttps://youtu.be/fmJaP859kdY?si=kj8VJ-1siQNuiRzF
>>86695280when will she collab with senzawa?
>>86695280buy an ad fag
>>86696170>why not return to her most recent identity before hololive?Perhaps she plans to do a new slate of content compared to the old and thought a fresh-start would be smarterI kind of expect something more similar to what Filian does compared to her old content
>>86695280Of course I will fucking be there.
>>86695280probably not. that account is not a hololive member. i only watch hololive.
>>86696768you laugh you lose for 3 years sure is new.
lmfao. fuck no
>>86696473
why does her hat look like thief dokibird's
>>86695280yeah probably. I need something to tide me over until mint's 3.0
>>86696226doob probably. Maybe /jump/ if she leans into that.
>>86696226>>86697421It'll merge with awat, changing it's name after her debut. They decided that I think
>>86696473what is this temu ahh Fillian
>>86696904so true and based, sister
No, I watched her "graduation" stream and it was the worst graduation I've ever seen. It is like she didn't care about her fans at all. But on the other hand she is reincarnating quite fast so maybe she does care about them?
>>86697510Proto Filian, but now she is older, 5yrs older. The train already left the station
>>866966532025 is going to be quite the year >:3
>>86695280Hell yes I will. It’s too bad the Ame thread schizos make discussing this difficult.>>86696096I kind of agree. I am hype on Ame now and 2 weeks is a long time. She’ll still be scuffed because it’s not like she’s prepping hard lmfao.
>>86695280Sure, why not, I have nothing better to do.
>>86695280no, i will not use twitch, and i dont have to since you guys will keep me informed
>>86697794>Ame thread schizosBecause you were btfo? kek
>>86695280Never watched Ame in my entire life but sure why not, i like that weird long mouse thingy
>>86696473i clicked on all three links, anon i believe you postet the same video
>>86696473yeesh, whoremelia thotson sure aint wasting no time
>>86695280>mouse on bubble in banner evokes BubbaAhhhhhhhhh.
>>86695280I liked when she played Ame, I still do.She's not playing Ame, I'm not going to watch someone who isn't Ame. My memories of Ame will remain intact.I have decided to stay with the Holos that are left and the ones that will come one day.That's all. To me, Ame is gone. I am not going to go around chasing someone who was. That's not the same person, not the same character.I'm not following this Mouse, this is not Ame. Will neve be Ame. Ame went out in good terms and made peace with it. This is an adult decision.
>>86696473Cover destroyed this girl
>>86695280Why does this leave such a sour taste in my mouth? Feels like she was in a big hurry to escape the blue dorito.
>>86698121You’re clearly not an adult and have some kind of mental stunting. It’s the same creator, so unless all you liked about Watson was her face (which is nice) then there’s no reason to stop. I think if you tried Dooby that you’ll end up enjoying her all the same, but no one is forcing you so whatever.
>>86698243>Feels like she was in a big hurry to escape the blue dorito.obviously
>>86698121shut UP, god
>>86695898>he doesn't know
>>86698269>but no one is forcing you so whatever.I was going to reply something else but you got it right at the end. Decision. That's it anon. You got my point, the point in general. Well done.
>>86698375Weird guy.
>>86697634The graduation stream was required by management for her to have this affiliate status in Hololive. Ame was noticeably stressed out at having to shill her daki again so there were likely several requirements in terms of merch shilling.
>>86695582kinohope Dooby collabs with the Stars more
>>86698243Big hurry? She stuck around for 4 years and then didn't renew her contract. The fuck do you mean big hurry.
>>86698620Did she want that status or did Cover want it as a condition for her to leave?
>>86698688>requirement to leaveThat's not how contracts work, anon.
>>86698688My man, basically all employment that Americans engage in is at-will. Even internationally. They can’t set conditions for an employee to leave, literally unenforceable on U.S. soil.
>>86695280>10/205 out of 10
>>86698121My god, is the boot smeared with jell-o or something? For you to lick it so fervently
>>86695280>day 10 of the 20th month??????????????
>>86695280no
>>86698121>referring to vtubers as "playing" their characterYou want that shit, go watch Nora Cat.
>>86698632I too want to see her speedrun reaching 3 view status. It would be really funny to see her do in 3 weeks what took kson 3 years.
>>86695280Of course no. Her streams were so low effort it's insulting and she'll likely be late to her """debut""" as well, assuming it happens at all.
The better question is how long until the Blue one comes back so they can collab
>>86698620Holos get to choose what their birthday merch is retard.
does she have any good 7tv emotes added yet?
>>86699136>FaunaMost white zoomers do this
>>86698688Unless she signed some (illegal) life-long contract, that doesn't seem like it was the case.Ame can feel REAL guilty for doing the smallest of things and can't take gratitude so I guess she wanted out for a while but didn't know how to get out without it coming out as ungrateful. So when she finally mustered up courage to speak, COVER presented her this affiliate status/contract they probably have been working on for a while to stop having to shelve all IPs with graduations.Depending on how well it goes with Ame, it could become another industry thing. Eitherways it's going to get copied.>>86699070ngl, the morbidly curious part of me wonders if this doomer-level prediction will happen or not.>If it doesn't, schizos btfo. She wins.>if it does, she's retarded. lmaooooo.No in-between.
>>86699141I keep saying that the more people ask for Gura to leave. The more time she stays just to fuck with the antis.
>>86699141>Dooby3D and Gawr Gura have day 1 permission to Indy collab, which is why Watson is still an affiliate. This was Gura’s condition for staying while Ame fucked off because she hated having to go to holofes once a year.
>>86698688Ame is on record of stating that she had to negotiate with management for this affiliate status, which implies Cover was ready to graduate her and had to be convinced to try out this new pseudo graduation instead. This also implies she clearly wants to try stuff that Cover doesn't allow her to do while under hololive (other members still do PL activities, but she can't?) but also wants the safety net of keeping the door open for that income stream in the future in case things don't work out
>worse model>worse site>worse games>worse collab partnersnot a chance in hell i'm watching a default asset play fps slop with faggots on a digital middle school.
>>86699140>>86698883retards, she's a time traveler returning from October 2020
>>86699452>worse gamesDon’t need perms when you aren’t a corpo.
>>86699418Makes sense. The affiliate part carries risks.She's still a member of Hololive so YABs could still carry over to COVER if she's not careful.I want to see how well will this proposal go.
>>86695280Gotta wake up for work on the 21st, so it'll depend on what time it happens at.
>>86695280I think she was just tired of being an anime girl and attracting an audience that was more interested in her being cute then the content she was making. Hence why she’s literally a png of a mouse with long legs, However, as someone who has made many attempts to watch her and failed, I do not think she is entertaining enough without the cute anime girl buff, odds are she’s gonna fall off very quickly and come running back to hololive when it doesn’t work out
>>86699418japs arent very good at thinking outside the boxtheoretically there are zero downsides from not just doing affiliate for everyone going forward
>>86696473What was her tracking setup like for this?And I am curious what her new setup will be for eye/face/hand tracking
>>86695280nope
Gators, how are we feeling right now?
>>86699501That’s not the point
>>86699548You are forgetting that if someone wants out and never back, they are going to ask to get graduated instead of going affiliate.
>>86699520>She's still a member of Hololive so YABs could still carry over to COVER if she's not careful.How does that not apply to other holos that do PL/RM activities while still fully active in hololive?
>>86699635sure if they ask for itjust not it being the default anymore
>>86699418>jap autism says 'cancel every project in the pipeline because that's how we've always done it' >ame says 'wait i still wanna get paid for that'>lightbulb goes off in jap head (6 years late)why are they like this?
>>86698121>This is an adult decision.Not really. Even the japanese who actively refuse to let someone else voice a different character unless the person voicing them literally dies have a better point than you, because anime characters are working with a script and aren't the thoughts of the person voicing them. Only a child would think that she's the same as Goku.
>>86695280Nah. I'm good. Already moved on to CiCi
>>86699605Great. This thread’s better than the Ame general where the nolifers shut down any discussion of Dooby/sachi.
>>86695280dooooobbbbbyyyyyyyyy
>>86699800same but gigi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGIDpzNNdI4
>>86699548>theoretically there are zero downsides from not just doing affiliate for everyone going forwardFans are like 80% of Cover's income. I want you to think really hard about what you believe is zero downsides to a decision that, if it's used for everyone, will basically just be Gamebu's "the people don't matter just the character now spend money on us" bullshit with a couple extra steps.
>>86699876Same but i never moved on from Towa
>>86699469Understandable
>>86696170because she hates the v-tubing fandom
>>86699867dooby dooby doooooo
>>86697794There's literally threads for discussing Indies, you can use either one
>>86699501Watch her play nothing but CS2 and overwatch.Perms were never the problem.
>>86700105>Perms were never the problem.lol
>>86699867what do you want
>>86699141Altare never left
>>86695280of course
>>86700105hey you forgot Valorant
>>86699070>I too want to see her speedrun reaching 3 view status.You do realize that she's got friends in the greater EN indie community unlike Kson?Maybe her Holo fans will leave but if she's going to be collabing with Vedal and Doki then her 4view status is all but guaranteed
>>86700164If you think "freedom" will suddenly improve her content you're in for the same rude awakening ksonfags got.She's going to play the exact same shit with even less variety just like kson.
>>86695280no. because she left.
>>86695280It's not her, calm down people.
>>86700337>There's just going to be more swearing and that's it.Fuck...
>>86700314I heard this 3 years ago when kson fucked off.
>>86695280nah I stopped caring about her when she told me to improve myself
>>86695582https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/filename/1727765714230312.png/mental illness
>>86700337>>86700105Sounds based. Playing games to win instead of games to promote sales, wherein she contractually had to make a performative effort at playing like shit so the stream was worthwhile.
>>86700337once again>Perms were never the problem.lol, dare i even say lmao, maybe a smidgen of rofl as a side
>>86695280I shan't be watching unless she gets naked.
>>86700431Yeah, I remember, anons back then would tell you to jump off a bridge if you dared to say Kson would be anything but below 10k viewers going forward.Well...
>>86698184A tragedy. She was so bratty, so full of life...
>>86700557They still call you Chinese if you ask what happened to her viewership.I legit wonder how it got that bad.
>>86698243bro she's been afk for 2 yearsshe just got sick of all the idol stuff, which is what people watch hololive forshe probably won't keep most of her audience
>>86697311because all the art of it has been shitty mspaint stuff.It looks like she's a train conductor, specifically a steam train. (the future full-time steamer wasn't actually a typo)
>>86700557I don't think she deserved what happened to her if chinkoids hadn't be such unhinged mongoloids she might have still been in holo
>>86696226Merging with awat to stay away from ligniggers.
>>86699418she wants to full time her PL, probably can't do that under a holo contract
>>86700818She probably won't stay away from them. Enjoy!
>already coming backSo, why did she leave then? Does holo really restricts their talents that much? Legit question, looking from the outside it seems like you made it big by turning holo, just gotta deal with the constant pressure and try to stay away from social media as much as possible. Like any idol corpo, almost no one is gonna last forever, but you could easily stay there for 7-10 years if you keep yabs at minimun.
I just want to see the kind of halfassed disaster it will be and then forget about her completely
>wears a hat>"is this dokibird?"
>>86700901yeah man because she was such a social butterfly before
>>86699605they are kappas now
>>86700713The answer is actually pretty simple: she stopped streaming. Unlike Gura who's propped up by both a company and a constant supply of merch and advertisement, an indie can't really get away with taking 6 months between streams and expect to keep her 4view audience.
>>86700922She wants to be lazy and her old, clingy fanbase was unwanted baggage
>>86699858First off, Kson still makes more than most members in EN.Secondly, her CCV ranges from 1.5k-4k whenever she streams on Youtube (which is usually once a week).Thirdly, when Kson came back she massively debuffed herself multiple times and took massive hiatuses without notice as an Indie. Her performing this well is unironically impressive.But you take all your information from the catalog so there's no point in discussing this further
>>86699520This affiliate status is definitely biased to Cover's benefit since it's up to their discretion if and where they want to use the Amelia Watson character. If doob pulls a gigaYAB, Cover can just quietly move Ame from affiliate to alumni. I'm still coping that things go just well enough for both parties that it still makes sense to do projects with Amelia Watson in the future. I highly doubt she'll take up the mantle again full-time, but I've always wanted a Coco cameo at holofes and Ame could be the first to pull it off. >>86700832if she wasn't allowed to do what she wanted part time that she had to essentially quit, then it makes sense her new job would be full timeeither way, all of the above is just one possibility in a future of many
>>86700901I want to stay away from them, don't care about her collab partners but lignigs are insufferable brownoids. Awat consesus was to avoid them.
>>86700922She thinks she can make it.Not even the biggest vtuber in 2020 could. At least in the long term.
>>86700922They have to go to Japan multiple times per year for mocap and recording. Fun once or twice for an American weeaboo, but if you’re not going full expat like Mori then that shit gets old FAST. Most people aren’t built for constant scheduled international trips and just want to sit at home, especially when they’re rich.
>>86699800it's like a carbon copy...https://youtu.be/8gHnOFM3Osc?si=S71wrc4xniamAZy9
>>86700818>stay away from ligniggersDon't be scared that's twin
>>86700922Thirdies think a high salary and fame is all there is to life.
>>86700766>>86698243>He doesn't know about the PL streams last year while she was AFK
>>86700901/lig/ is the cancer of the board I don't know why the fact they are bunkering up in their thread surprises you.
>>86695422>>>>>>>>holo
>>86701104why would I? I improved myself
MARK MY WORDS SHES GOING TO BE GLOVING ON HER HANDS AND KNEES TO COME BACK ONCE HOLOEARTH IS LIVE JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER BITCHES
>>86701114The cancer of the board is /#/ followed by Nijinigs
>>86701114Didn't /lig/ split because it was full of schizos anti-ing 4views?
>>86698121Based take king
>>86701007>First off, Kson still makes more than most members in ENSources cited: ksonHer metrics paint a different picture. Shes not getting money from views or SCs anymore. If companies are paying her 6 figures for sponsorships she must give amazing blowjobs. Because they're not getting their moneys worth since you know, nobody watches her.
>>86701179holoass is doa lil bro
>>86701196Yes.
>>86695280I'll watch, but the moment she does a Phase collab, I'm dropping her.
wonder how her channel will do without the support of millions of chumbuds
>>86700818>>86701114Can't blame them, pretty smart on their part.
>>86701007>Secondly, her CCV ranges from 1.5k-4k whenever she streams on Youtube Yeah maybe in 2022. She had 800 on her last non flesh stream.
>>86701336kiara tier
>>86701242CCV =/= Income you Numbermonkey
>>86701457Probably slightly better. Kiara gets 6k viewers at shitty midday Euro hours. If Dooby keeps her PST schedule then she’ll do fine.
>>867015707k on Twitch is top 3 bro.The numbers are that bad.
>>86701371.
>>86701622Yikes. Ollie can beat that.
>>86701622Isn't this the one after the froot incident?>Dramabuff 1kGrim
>>86701089Understandable, business trips are a bitch. But unless you've found a way to make it for the rest of your life (safe investments, side-project that is already a profit, etc) you aren't dropping your high-paid job just because of a few incoveniences.Of course, that's just my wagie mentallity talking.
>>867015707k is Filian tier, no way she's even coming close.She'll be a steady 1-2k CCV streamer after the debut buff of twitch and maybe double that on youtube
>>86701620Yeah I don’t watch twitch at all. The last thing I think I watched there was an Ame stream when she pulled one, lol. Really hope Doobson actually simulcasts everything so that I don’t have to put up with twitch’s shitty UI and 13-year-old memer aesthetics.
>>86701823Slightly above Doki/Mint tier is the safest bet honestly.
>>86701622>lose dorito>lose everything
>>86701823Simulcasting means she won't be reading Youtube chat, just twitch chat.
>>86699070You ever thought of the fact that she wants to avoid weirdoes like you?
>>86699950>different model in every cliplooks like a woman who cant make up her mind alright, 100% Ame, 100% not watching.
>>86701947that was in 2018. she was inventing vtubing
>>86701622she made ~150 dollars from that stream, that's more than most people on this board make in a month
>>86701776Assuming she'll last longer than kson did is laughable because at least kson has her big ass and tits bringing in the coomer views.Nobody is going to watch dooby for the cs gameplay. And one she starts interacting with ligs and indies it'll be fucking over.
>>86695280My oshi is Yagoo and Cover, no i will not be watching.
why would you delete this >>86701760lmao talk about butthurt
>>86701933It's cool bro I fucked off after that one karaoke stream 2 years ago.I'm just here to grudgepost in 6 months.
>>86701990ame invented air, its only thanks to her that we can breath
>>86702094this anon moved on
>>86701622I feel kson's story is more about moving on than something else.Went from full time streaming, to do side projects and stream every once in a while, got a job for her fave franchise and keeps on getting contact with fleshies that usually aren't in the same circle as vtubers. I wanna say she moved on and still streams as another way of income instead of being the only way, but I have no proof of that at all.Tl;dr she diversified and it backfired a bit
>>86702027You'll be surprised. Even if all of the Holobros fuck off she'll just gain a completely new fanbase
>>86701893Not sure about that. She'd need some incredible networking or advertising for that, and I don't know if she's capable of that yet. Right now most people don't even know that account exists, and she's made no real efforts to spread the word. If nothing changes, I can't see her being that huge as an indie just off of word of mouth.
>>86701158>2 years later and still seething about that remarkClearly, you haven't improved.
>>86702390I improve. This whore not.
>>86702390she fucked up and knows itthat's why she stopped streaming after that
>>86696226Why do you need a thread name? Just wait a couple months and use /pcg/Why else do you think they haven't announced the new girls from those auditions a few months back?
>>86702295Word of mouth and the fact she left on good terms without pulling a kson are gonna help her. She is not gonna have a huge dramabuff like Doki on her first months but I could see a good chunk of tourists being interested in her. If she doesn't fuck up I can see her having a 2k average a la Mint/Doki in the long run, the only issue is that the cancer cesspoll that are Twitch vtubers are gonna try to use her for clout. I hope she's ready for that.
>>86702563>phaseThat is such a retarded take and I love it
>>86702496>I improve. This whore not.clearly, you didn't improve your English skills kek
>>86702641I mean that's a good way to debuff yourself permanently, I can see Debuffson killing any future prospect she could have like that.
>>86702390cmon anon, was a pretty clear women moment, female streamers have them all the timeno it wasn't the end of the world as some claim but it did negatively affect her career going forward
>>86702622Name 5 problematic twitch vtubers other than Fefe and Kirsche (who everyone avoids anyways)?
>>86702496your english is improvingkeep it up!
>>86702532>numbermonkey headcanon
>>86702801yeah she just stopped streaming right after that for no reason
>>86702622She doesn't have a tenth of the work ethic doki and mint have. This is the woman that dropped every project she ever started.Even Kiara knew she'd drop that news show.
>>86695280No
>>86702622ame was never less popular than selen or pomuit would be wild if she couldn't replicate their results
>>86702750>ERB exists>her performance post debut and gushing over the homos didn't changeAnon...
>>86702777Marina alone counts as 12.
>>86702874>spelling bee>aquarium vrRetard
>>86702777>Mentions only right wing vtubers as "problematic"Their beliefs are irrelevant. If she starts collabing with indies who spout left wing American political nonsense what remains of her holo fanbase will quickly fuck off. Hololive is so popular because there's 0 political bullshit of any kind.
>>86702801Yeah a lot of people stopped watching her for no reason.
>>86702998Both of them had the biggest drama buff in the history of vtubing.
>>86702998Doki took advantage of her drama buff to build a fuckton of goodwill and network even harder. Mint was shilled 24/7 by vshojo for a while until she got on her feet and started spamming cons and events. Ame definitely had a bigger audience and isn't any worse than them, but that won't matter if people haven't realized she exists.
>>86703031>Look at these 2 streams she did in a span of 4 months Thanks for proving my point
>>86702998Selen and Pomu had exits that were so public, it permanently altered how PLs are treated going forward.Meanwhile every other day tourists and gators have to constantly ask who Dooby is when people talk about her.Are you serious? Look at her twitter growth and compare it both notMint's twitter and quickly it grew post graduation.
>>86696096I mean Mint stalled for months and she's doing pretty good these days.
>>86703194i doubt ame will be interested in doing lots of sponsorships and networking but i think she's serious about renting out her 3d studio to indies, and if so, dokimint would definitely be her patrons
>>86702998holofans will never ever leave their walled gardendiehard teamates who would've followed her probably all oshihen when CC debuted
>>86695280>another twitch thotNo thanks.
If she wanted numbers and popularity she would've stayed in Holo in the first place, I don't think she wants to draw attention to this new thing she's doing.
>>86697634She cares about money and fame. As all women do.
>>86703194This. Part of me kinda believes that she's intentionally trying to filter some of the less loyal blue dorito fans with the way she's doing things.
>>86696096>fucking up already by not streamingSo more of the same?
>>86703050> If she starts collabing with indies who spout left wing American political nonsensei doubt it, she would avoid anybody like that>>86703334The 3d studio is mostly for her benefit ,plus its in her house and knowing how paranoid she is i'd only seeing her retngint to people' she trusts
>>86699418>This also implies she clearly wants to try stuff that Cover doesn't allow her to do while under hololiveLike bang the holostars
>>86703050>Mentions openly political vtubers as problematic.If you've got any left wing poltubers, feel free to mention them. Either way, talking about politics is a massive filter to anyone not /pol/ or Hasan brainrotted
>>86703433No shitIt's amazing how some people have been following her for 4 years now and they still don't understand the first thing about her thought process.
>>86703409>I don't think she wants to draw attention to this new thing she's doing.Her entire last two weeks was an ad for it, there's seven hundred things she would have done different if she wasn't seeking attention
>>86703612I wouldn't be surprised if she did collab with the boys, can a fan on HoloEN explain to me why anyone would expect someone who actively wants to play FPS games to not male collab?
>>86703031to be fair, a lot of those projects are commissioned to 3rd party artists>>86702874ame excels when she's managing projects she's passionate about, and she's admitted to losing that passion for quite some time. i wouldn't want to work on stuff i don't care for, especially if i didn't need the paycheck that comes along with it.i'm hoping she finds what she's looking for with her return to the indie stint, but i'm also hoping she'd appear again as Ame in the future, like if Myth did ReUnion during a live and she pops in like Suisei did during Shiraken's fes performance
>>86703409What I find strange is that she left a very stable job to test old waters that are already overpopulated. Let's be honest plenty of gators probably already had a second and third option on Ame's timeslot whenever she didn't stream. Even graveyard shift hours have competition now.Sure, it'll mean way less pressure, but unless she managed her finances and connections well, she's eventually gonna be struggling if she's already used to holoprofit-tier expenses.
>>86703409If she wanted to be obscure she would have waited another 2 months. And not have announced and hyped up her comeback.
>>86703231more successful than anything your oshi did lmao
>>86703639They generally avoid vtubing due to thinking they look like little girls and hating lolis in general. Plenty of the regular streamers on twitch, though. >>86703657Yeah, I was wondering that too. She probably wants a real, fresh start without all the perms autism or red tape, and especially without the worst of the holobox screeching at her for being a whore for singing a song or talking to someone with a penis. Basically, she wants to be Doki, who initially wanted to be Ame. Things really come full circle.
>>86703657Please do explain her thought process, why would she leave the way she did and do things this way?
>>86703791>ame excels when she's managing projects she's passionate aboutMan I don't know what alternate reality you're from because I remember her dropping shit like fish tank in her first year.Can't believe she got burned out in a few months. Guess that's what working a few hours a week does to an American woman.
>>86703925wants to do 3d projects she can't do in holo but can't because of the non-compete clause but wants the door open to come back in case things don't work out
>>86703834That's because you've never held a high paying job that slowly makes you hate what you're doing. Job satisfaction is not just about the paycheck. I reckon she needed to get out before holo made her hate vtubing.
>this vtubers is the best, amazing, spectacular, so entertaining and so fantastic!>leaves the company >suddenly the enemy and suddenly evil now, don't watch her she sucks>literally the same exact person
I can't wait until she return to Cover after she lose her views and money
>>86704023she likes working on new things but when it comes to continuing a series it quickly turns into an obligation which she hates
>>86704095
>>86703898>especially without the worst of the holobox screeching at her for being a whoreYou really overstimate the presence and a influence of those.
>>86704095Yeah. It’s really sad that’s how the Ame thread has turned out. Hopefully it’ll be one thread again soon.
>>86704095Corpodrones are easily the worst and it doesn't matter if they're from Holo or Niji.
>>86704095Anon 3/4 of her fanbase started hating her and fucked off 2 years ago. They just weren't very vocal recently because she basically disappeared for 2 years. She got way more hate than this 2 years ago.
>YT streamsSo is she gonna simulcast?
>>86704095you're in the catalog dude, most of the people being shitty were shitty when she was in holo too. bunch of nijinigs and jealous small corpofags.
>>86695422holo after-life
>>86703898selen never auditioned for hololive
When do you think she will Join Vshojo
>>86704095Kson is not Coco dude.
>>86704245Looks like it. I’m subbed on Twitch because it’s available there but have little interest in actually using Twitch unless I’m forced to.
>>86704295ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّٰ
>>86704304never as long as she remains a holo affiliate
>>86704046Oh you just mean that, well that's pretty obvious.What about when she started randomly streaming on the side in November? My theory is that she was checking how many people would notice and tune in at the bare minimum if she left and if it would be enough to float by with
>>86704095Women are only good when they have a strong father figure (cover) to keep them in line.
>>86704193We unicorngods run vtubing. The hololive members that pander to us are the most popular and top earners out of all vtuber for a reason.
>>86704095Both Nijinigs and Holofags have the same corpodrone behaviour
>>86704245>barely streams>leaves the company>suddenly has a motivation rush to streamummm??
>>86704304She can't, still has a contract with Hololive
>>86695280She wants the peace and tranquility of not being a brand mascot, I won't bother her by joining
>>86704415calliope is basically the richest and most popular en by far so idk what you're on
>>86704425>>86704362You do know "affiliate" just mean they can make money off her and to tell their stock holder that there wasn't another graduation so near the last one by saying she staying as "affiliate"
>>86704297No, but she definitely wanted to follow in Ame's footsteps and used her as a role model for the kind of vtuber she wanted to become. She's said it many times. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4piq24kdOdQ&t=5645s
>>86704245>>86704322>>86704421Don't forget that she never cared about anyone but those who can line her pockets
>>86702622Literally the first thing notAme did was follow a bunch of twitch vtubers, and it's gonna be the other way around, she's likely gonna exploit them for twitch clout and for content and ideas, biggests targets on the list, probably Filian and Vedal, maybe even both at once, I mean Filian's whole strategy is doing big collabs too.
>>86704363That's a terrible strategy because most of the people that are aware of these streams are dramafags who are just there in case she says something juicy.They'll be there for her first few streams and will fuck off once they don't get fed.
>>86704078I can understand that. I'm lucky to have a midpaid job that I like and I know people can be absolutely rich and miserable, doctors are a good example of that. But they stay there because money talks. If she knows an option that will give her less and make her happy, it's perfect, good for her. But I have a gut feeling that she went more for a gamble than a safe option. It's not like she gonna crash and burn immediately as soon retards here keep on telling themselves, but if she isn't constant, she's gonna struggle, a lot. On this industry, everyone is replaceable, indies suffer this the most.
Dooby?
>>86704418its unironically okay when hololive does it
>>86704639RRAT
>>86704492Work on your bait
>>86704418>YOU leftChill out, Kson
>>86695280I'm a square
>>86702026no she didn't? youtube takes 30% and then normal taxes take another 20-30%
>>86704681how is it bait? calli has sponsorships out the ass and collabs with major brands
>>86699418>other members still do PL activities, but she can't?To my knowledge, no one in en has done such activities using live2d or 3d models. JPs may have, but the contracts are likely different, especially for the older members.
>>86704557This, "affiliate" was probably a proposal from Cover's end trying to damage control and Ame just went with it (probably for some promise of free money for going with it). It also seems EN is run under a different management structure for most things and they managed to convince Cover to try it. I dunno what they are smoking or who they think they are fooling however as anyone looking like 2 words past any headline reading "Amelia Watson becomes Hololive affiliate" will realize it functionally is graduation.
>>86704620If she cared about that she would've just been like Gura and just kept the status quo. She must know that there's not a chance in he'll she'll make the same kind of money for as little work outside of hololive. >>86704639God, I hope so. >>86704681Anon? She has a fucking universal records deal and shows up on goddamn japanese television regularly. Streaming is just her hobby at this point.
>>86704667It's not even that hard to understand, Holo envrioment is pretty good, gives the girl a lot of opportunities and the interactions between them are great. Nijisanji is a concentration camp.
>>86704710>normal taxes take another 20-30%she's californian you retard. at her tax bracket, it's around 50% effective tax rate for both state and federal.but she could probably write off like 200k for amestudio build
>>86704785Watch streams.>Inb4 cover forced her to say thatFuck off
>>86704747>>86704802Deadbeats are hilarious. They actually believe Mori outearns Gura.
>>86704631She made a calculated gamble negotiating the affiliate status. It keeps the door open for future revenue streams not available to your average indie.I like to think of it like a sabbatical leave, except Cover is not obligated to give her her old job back once she's finished her stint. Maybe there's a timeline that exists where she gets to be the first ungraduated corpo vtuber, but I highly doubt it's gonna be this one.
>>86704875You can tell she was over it in her last stream
>>86704939mori gets higher views on her channel than gura does so yeah she probably does
>>86704956>calculatedame is a high school dropout and can't even do long division. she didn't calculate shit
>>86704939Streaming and getting all the music collabs would do that
>>86704939Mori actually streams so yeah
>>86704956She's not the first.Bullypanda apparently graduated because Niji wouldn't let her play pokemon, and then ungraduated after they got the perms.
>>86704557Blud, Cover made Kanata change home the second Kson got in Vshojo. The second Ame missteps that affiliate changes to graduation.
>>86705088>>86705034>>86705002Gura merch and memberships 100% outperform Mori’s hard work. And I say this as a deadbeat who actually enjoys her music rather than just laughs at it,
>>86704627She already follows Vedal.>>86704628How would dramafags know when a PL account that hasn't been active in several years does a gorilla Counterstrike stream? The only people who would notice things like that and notify other people are superfans who stalk her socials and alt accounts.
>>86704939It's Gura>Mori>powergap>Fauna/Ina/Fuwamoco for EN
>>86705209I absolutely believe fuwamoco earns a ton of money.I also believe they're retards who likely go through it like water with all their idol projects.
>>86704959The big project was the aquarium, the graduation was classic Ame scuff which was pretty nostalgic.
>>86705188The twitter algorithm told everyone who follows vtubers about Dooby3D. Word has been spreading organically.
>>86705188Dramafags stalk socials of big vtubers.Dramafags stalk everything.
>>86705309she has 20k subs on her youtube channelthat's pathetic
>>86705262Yeah, I don't know how to place those three because they all excel in different aspects.
>>86705342Home boy, she graduated 2 days ago.
>>86705342That's more than phase new gen...
>>86705426Kson and mikeneko gained multiple hundreds of thousands of subs after reactivating their accounts.
>>86705524dokibird didn't get any subs until her first drama stream. same with mint
>>86705309>Word has been spreading organically.You mean slowly. I expected her twitter to have at least 75k followers by now but it seems more like a trickle of people finding out, being confused, then figuring it out one by one.If she really wanted to blow up quickly, she should have done a voice tweet
>>86705587Well maybe she didn’t want to. Maybe she just wants to have chill streams her way again and call gamers cucks while playing with her friends.
>>86698121>Least beliavable falseflagger schizoThanks for the daily clowning, I wonder what is under the mask now.
>>86696473For me it's https://youtu.be/cPShs5cleSI?si=DM70HtN9CGjbPq8E
>>86705585NerdMint got like 200k twitter followers when she was on hiatus and her twitter spaces talking about her random breakfasts before school had 2k+ listeners tuning in
>>86705765*almost 200k
>>86704207Niji is unique in that the leadership and the management manages to be even worse than the fanbase. Fans are the worst thing to happen to vtubing, but Niji is trailblazing.
>>86705692i will now watch her debut.
>>86704095Holoponies do be like that
>>86705689I wonder if he’s the guy actively killing the Ame general by suppressing all Dooby discussion there. To what end? Kinda hate how some of this board’s terminally online regulars behave,
>>86706126Nta but you are a nigger and I am glad they kicked you out.
>>86705692>0:32fucking lol
>>86698121BASED
"The things you call dead haven't yet had the chance to be born." -The Scatman
>>86706199Didn’t get “kicked out” of anywhere. Whatever that means.At least we can talk about Dooby3D here in peace and watch old Sachi content without getting the janny called to delete half the thread.
>>86706541Wait for her to debut and the thread to change name/merge fucking stupid twitter nigger. I hate you tourist niggers so fucking much
Any collab notAme does with anyone, los retardados are gonna be calling both the sides leeches. Oh no, the former ivory tower holowhore is leeching off my beloved indie_name. Oh no, that indie tramp is leeching off Ame.
>>86706625>pure unadulterated toxic autismThanks for literally killing your oshi’s general, bud.
>>86699418Well, Noel is a pretty famous example of moonlighting. If cover is willing to overlook Noel's other job, I believe Ame should have quite a bit of freedom.
>>86706673Lig leeches already ready to cry.
>>86706757You ignored my actual point because you know I'm right. Stay in lig nigger.
>>86706625NTA but you do realise that liggers will invade your thread on the 20th and will be there to stay?If you're fine with it, go ahead - but i'm just letting you know that "tourists" will unironically be the majority of your thread posters from now on.
>>86706541>>/big/
Redpill me on the "improve yourself" and the downfall of her channel, where can I read/watch more on this topic?
>>86706942As long as the old guard stays I'm pretty sure we can manage to keep that place not a shithole.
>>86707108it's basically 90% catalogshit fanfiction, don't bother
>>86707108I'm gonna be real, the real problem was her going back to her family and the fucking termites.
>>86706673Me personally I cant wait to see notAme suck Vedal dry, I love when bitches leech him, she better be nice to the Neuros tho
>>86707108She said that people upset that she collabs with males should perhaps use that emotion to go and improve themselves instead.>>86707109You’re making the Ame general a shithole and killing it by suppressing anyone who wants to talk about Dooby3D. Actively killing people watching videos posted in this very thread with no problem, actively killing hype for your supposed oshi’s future endeavor. Because you’re super fucking autistic.
>>86707286Holobronies are just autistic, for all their seethe about Niji, at least they just go and follow their oshis regardless of where they go, whereas to them is a sacrament if you dare leave Holo. Who cares, they're both autistic Jap companies. Yagoo being a cooler dude doesnt meant he makes all the decisions instead of a bunch of suits that dont know shit and salarymen phoning it in, like most entertaiment corporations.
>>86696096weeding out the fakes then
>>86707286Jeez, let the rest of gators grieve for a moment, their Oshi just stopped being part of a corpo in the most confusing way possible.
>>86707286>You’re making the Ame general a shithole and killing it by suppressing anyone who wants to talk about Dooby3DWait for her debut fucking spastic. It's Ame's thread for now the day she debuts it's gonna be Ame and Dooby.
>>86707636Stop talking with the underage lignigger.
you can always discuss dooby in those indie generals
>>86707636Thats anothing thing, you insisting on it being an Ame thread and giving that priority, you dont see the dragoons calling it t he Selen/Doki general, same deal for Mint, or all the ex-nijis and kson in VShojo. Not that we shouldnt talk about Ame, but that gives the impression that the one appereance Ame will make in like a year at some thing will matter more that all of Dooby's streams.
>>86707286>>86707606Also temporarily bake /dooby/ if it really matters to you. Vshojo bakes /mouse/ for a month every year to discuss the subathon and dragooners baked /doki/ during selen's hiatus in january to talk about her PL tweets
>>86701180>general full of Holobros>worse than NijisistersOnly sisters hate /#/ because it shows how inferior their chuubas are
>>86707809Dooby didn't even debut mongo.
>>86707847are you really saying that /#/ is a good thread lmao
>>86707822you're in /dooby/ right now
>>86707900shes posting there every day lil bro, and is planning to focus mainly on twitch and twitch vtubers, keep seething forever or accept that some manner of indie fans will join her new fanbase
>>86707937well then i suggest you bake again, because this thread is about to die soon
>>86707636That’s fine. Just stop seething that there are two threads. Because as long as you actual autistic manchildren keep mass reporting all Dooby3D content in the Ame thread then there’s gotta be two.
>>86707981>Lil broNever post in awat please, good lord we are gonna need to root a lot of twitch niggers...
>>86708047>we
>>86708047so continue seething then, got it. see you on the 20th, lil bro
>>86708021The only one seething is you though.
>>86708047reminder your oshi is also a twitch nigger. as a matter of fact, she prefers twitch
>>86708047told you it's going to be bad. sooner or later you'll need to create a containment thread
>>86708121why are you posting on this and all dooby posts then, shouldnt you be complaining about dooby on the awaiting gen
>>86708180I replied to you seething and crying about getting banned in awat here >>86707286
>>86708274thats not me but i get it, youre actually autistic, and not the high functioning kind either
>>86707847Everyone hates you, numbermonkeyEven holo threads like /hlgg/
>>86708274You’re talking to multiple people and I, for one, am not banned in the Watson thread.Why’d you have to come here and start the same shit arguments you do there? You must actually deeply dislike Ame/Sachi/Dooby if your only contribution is arguing about whether or not we should be talking about what she’s doing.
>>86695280bye bye watson
>>86707847>HolobrosThose subhumans laugh at half of the Holos, you will never be real Hololive fans.
Here's your dooby general, now feel free to discuss>>86708666>>86708666>>86708666
>>86708716Kill yourself
>>86698121Most based take in the thread. Just watch some old sachi clips and see for yourself how TRUE and REAL this is
>>86708663numbermonkeys are all clout chasers, no different that the type that only watches stuff like kai cenat or the paul brothers, or seething unicorns turned anti allied with said clout chasers.
>>86707286Nobody is "suppressing" disscuision there retardthey literally were just saying not to post old stuff that would bait shitposters
>>86709243>autismYou antis are the only shitposters desu
>>86709377>antisretard
>>86695280She should do JAV with Kson
>>86695582I hope she unironically unlives right now
>>86704095Did you forget the part where the people shitting on Ame in this thread were already doing it while she was still in Hololive?