buy an ad

>>86695365
HOLOTHREAD
HOLOBOARD

>>86695365
go back

For posterity’s sake only, otherwise I’ll just wait for the ‘log threads.

>>86695422
Holo Affiliate

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>>86695280
First of all buy an ad.
Second of all, no I won't. Fuck off and die.

>>86695280
I unironically have no idea who the fuck this is.

>>86695280
Probably not no, I don't dislike her or anything but I'm not watching Twitch
If she has a VOD channel on youtube or something I'll consider it

>>86695596
Just like your parents

>>86695280
Can't wait for all the numberfag threads because of all the dramatourists that will be watching her.
Followed by all the grudgeposting because of her reaching 3 view status 2 months laters.

>>86695701
she’s simulcasting on both youtube and twitch

>>86695280
Fuck no. I'll be /here/ watching you retards live post about her.

>>86695422
what does some random indie have to do with hololive

>>86695822
Proof?

>>86695280
Hard pass

>>86695618
Ame's next incarnation.

>>86695596
Nothing wrong with that

>>86695964
I just know

>>86695818
cute

>>86695280
fucking up already by not streaming while the iron is still hot. a lot fewer people will be interested in her in 2 weeks

>>86695964
https://youtube.com/@dooby3d?si=IX3UXKYwed1AcL5H
says so in the description

No I'm not into NTR

>>86696107
thanks
>>86695997
why not return to her most recent identity before hololive?

>>86695280
her yt says Sachi, who da faq is Sachi? I want jumping mouse only

>>86695280
Any good thread name?
/doob/?

>>86696167
But enough about Phase Connect

>>86695280
I will 100% will be there. But it depends on her and her content if I or the many others will stay to watch.

>>86695280
it looks promising
https://youtu.be/fmJaP859kdY?si=kj8VJ-1siQNuiRzF
https://youtu.be/fmJaP859kdY?si=kj8VJ-1siQNuiRzF
https://youtu.be/fmJaP859kdY?si=kj8VJ-1siQNuiRzF

>>86695280
when will she collab with senzawa?

>>86695280
buy an ad fag

>>86696170
>why not return to her most recent identity before hololive?
Perhaps she plans to do a new slate of content compared to the old and thought a fresh-start would be smarter
I kind of expect something more similar to what Filian does compared to her old content

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>>86695280
Of course I will fucking be there.

>>86695280
probably not. that account is not a hololive member. i only watch hololive.

>>86696768
you laugh you lose for 3 years sure is new.

lmfao. fuck no

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>>86696473

why does her hat look like thief dokibird's

>>86695280
yeah probably. I need something to tide me over until mint's 3.0

>>86696226
doob probably. Maybe /jump/ if she leans into that.

>>86696226
>>86697421
It'll merge with awat, changing it's name after her debut. They decided that I think

>>86696473
what is this temu ahh Fillian

>>86696904
so true and based, sister

No, I watched her "graduation" stream and it was the worst graduation I've ever seen. It is like she didn't care about her fans at all. But on the other hand she is reincarnating quite fast so maybe she does care about them?

>>86697510
Proto Filian, but now she is older, 5yrs older. The train already left the station

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>>86696653
2025 is going to be quite the year >:3

>>86695280
Hell yes I will. It’s too bad the Ame thread schizos make discussing this difficult.
>>86696096
I kind of agree. I am hype on Ame now and 2 weeks is a long time. She’ll still be scuffed because it’s not like she’s prepping hard lmfao.

>>86695280
Sure, why not, I have nothing better to do.

>>86695280
no, i will not use twitch, and i dont have to since you guys will keep me informed

>>86697794
>Ame thread schizos
Because you were btfo? kek

>>86695280
Never watched Ame in my entire life but sure why not, i like that weird long mouse thingy

>>86696473
i clicked on all three links, anon i believe you postet the same video

>>86696473
yeesh, whoremelia thotson sure aint wasting no time

>>86695280
>mouse on bubble in banner evokes Bubba
Ahhhhhhhhh.

>>86695280
I liked when she played Ame, I still do.
She's not playing Ame, I'm not going to watch someone who isn't Ame. My memories of Ame will remain intact.
I have decided to stay with the Holos that are left and the ones that will come one day.
That's all. To me, Ame is gone.
I am not going to go around chasing someone who was. That's not the same person, not the same character.
I'm not following this Mouse, this is not Ame. Will neve be Ame. Ame went out in good terms and made peace with it. This is an adult decision.

>>86696473
Cover destroyed this girl

>>86695280
Why does this leave such a sour taste in my mouth? Feels like she was in a big hurry to escape the blue dorito.

>>86698121
You’re clearly not an adult and have some kind of mental stunting. It’s the same creator, so unless all you liked about Watson was her face (which is nice) then there’s no reason to stop. I think if you tried Dooby that you’ll end up enjoying her all the same, but no one is forcing you so whatever.

>>86698243
>Feels like she was in a big hurry to escape the blue dorito.
obviously

>>86698121
shut UP, god

>>86695898
>he doesn't know

>>86698269
>but no one is forcing you so whatever.
I was going to reply something else but you got it right at the end. Decision. That's it anon. You got my point, the point in general. Well done.

>>86698375
Weird guy.

>>86697634
The graduation stream was required by management for her to have this affiliate status in Hololive. Ame was noticeably stressed out at having to shill her daki again so there were likely several requirements in terms of merch shilling.

>>86695582
kino
hope Dooby collabs with the Stars more

>>86698243
Big hurry? She stuck around for 4 years and then didn't renew her contract. The fuck do you mean big hurry.

>>86698620
Did she want that status or did Cover want it as a condition for her to leave?

>>86698688
>requirement to leave
That's not how contracts work, anon.

>>86698688
My man, basically all employment that Americans engage in is at-will. Even internationally. They can’t set conditions for an employee to leave, literally unenforceable on U.S. soil.

>>86695280
>10/20
5 out of 10

>>86698121
My god, is the boot smeared with jell-o or something? For you to lick it so fervently

>>86695280
>day 10 of the 20th month
??????????????

>>86695280
no

>>86698121
>referring to vtubers as "playing" their character
You want that shit, go watch Nora Cat.

>>86698632
I too want to see her speedrun reaching 3 view status. It would be really funny to see her do in 3 weeks what took kson 3 years.

>>86695280
Of course no. Her streams were so low effort it's insulting and she'll likely be late to her """debut""" as well, assuming it happens at all.

The better question is how long until the Blue one comes back so they can collab

>>86698620
Holos get to choose what their birthday merch is retard.

does she have any good 7tv emotes added yet?

>>86699136
>Fauna
Most white zoomers do this

>>86698688
Unless she signed some (illegal) life-long contract, that doesn't seem like it was the case.
Ame can feel REAL guilty for doing the smallest of things and can't take gratitude so I guess she wanted out for a while but didn't know how to get out without it coming out as ungrateful. So when she finally mustered up courage to speak, COVER presented her this affiliate status/contract they probably have been working on for a while to stop having to shelve all IPs with graduations.
Depending on how well it goes with Ame, it could become another industry thing. Eitherways it's going to get copied.

>>86699070
ngl, the morbidly curious part of me wonders if this doomer-level prediction will happen or not.
>If it doesn't, schizos btfo. She wins.
>if it does, she's retarded. lmaooooo.
No in-between.

>>86699141
I keep saying that the more people ask for Gura to leave. The more time she stays just to fuck with the antis.

>>86699141
>Dooby3D and Gawr Gura have day 1 permission to Indy collab, which is why Watson is still an affiliate. This was Gura’s condition for staying while Ame fucked off because she hated having to go to holofes once a year.

>>86698688
Ame is on record of stating that she had to negotiate with management for this affiliate status, which implies Cover was ready to graduate her and had to be convinced to try out this new pseudo graduation instead.

This also implies she clearly wants to try stuff that Cover doesn't allow her to do while under hololive (other members still do PL activities, but she can't?) but also wants the safety net of keeping the door open for that income stream in the future in case things don't work out

>worse model
>worse site
>worse games
>worse collab partners
not a chance in hell i'm watching a default asset play fps slop with faggots on a digital middle school.

>>86699140
>>86698883
retards, she's a time traveler returning from October 2020

>>86699452
>worse games
Don’t need perms when you aren’t a corpo.

>>86699418
Makes sense. The affiliate part carries risks.
She's still a member of Hololive so YABs could still carry over to COVER if she's not careful.
I want to see how well will this proposal go.

>>86695280
Gotta wake up for work on the 21st, so it'll depend on what time it happens at.

>>86695280
I think she was just tired of being an anime girl and attracting an audience that was more interested in her being cute then the content she was making. Hence why she’s literally a png of a mouse with long legs, However, as someone who has made many attempts to watch her and failed, I do not think she is entertaining enough without the cute anime girl buff, odds are she’s gonna fall off very quickly and come running back to hololive when it doesn’t work out

>>86699418
japs arent very good at thinking outside the box
theoretically there are zero downsides from not just doing affiliate for everyone going forward

>>86696473
What was her tracking setup like for this?
And I am curious what her new setup will be for eye/face/hand tracking

>>86695280
nope

Gators, how are we feeling right now?

>>86699501
That’s not the point

>>86699548
You are forgetting that if someone wants out and never back, they are going to ask to get graduated instead of going affiliate.

>>86699520
>She's still a member of Hololive so YABs could still carry over to COVER if she's not careful.
How does that not apply to other holos that do PL/RM activities while still fully active in hololive?

>>86699635
sure if they ask for it
just not it being the default anymore

>>86699418
>jap autism says 'cancel every project in the pipeline because that's how we've always done it'
>ame says 'wait i still wanna get paid for that'
>lightbulb goes off in jap head (6 years late)
why are they like this?

>>86698121
>This is an adult decision.
Not really. Even the japanese who actively refuse to let someone else voice a different character unless the person voicing them literally dies have a better point than you, because anime characters are working with a script and aren't the thoughts of the person voicing them. Only a child would think that she's the same as Goku.

>>86695280
Nah. I'm good. Already moved on to CiCi

>>86699605
Great. This thread’s better than the Ame general where the nolifers shut down any discussion of Dooby/sachi.

>>86695280
dooooobbbbbyyyyyyyyy

>>86699800
same but gigi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGIDpzNNdI4

>>86699548
>theoretically there are zero downsides from not just doing affiliate for everyone going forward
Fans are like 80% of Cover's income.
I want you to think really hard about what you believe is zero downsides to a decision that, if it's used for everyone, will basically just be Gamebu's "the people don't matter just the character now spend money on us" bullshit with a couple extra steps.

>>86699876
Same but i never moved on from Towa

>>86699469
Understandable

>>86696170
because she hates the v-tubing fandom

>>86699867
dooby dooby doooooo

>>86697794
There's literally threads for discussing Indies, you can use either one

>>86699501
Watch her play nothing but CS2 and overwatch.
Perms were never the problem.

>>86700105
>Perms were never the problem.
lol

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>>86699867
what do you want

>>86699141
Altare never left

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>>86695280
of course

>>86700105
hey you forgot Valorant

>>86699070
>I too want to see her speedrun reaching 3 view status.
You do realize that she's got friends in the greater EN indie community unlike Kson?
Maybe her Holo fans will leave but if she's going to be collabing with Vedal and Doki then her 4view status is all but guaranteed

>>86700164
If you think "freedom" will suddenly improve her content you're in for the same rude awakening ksonfags got.
She's going to play the exact same shit with even less variety just like kson.

>>86695280
no. because she left.

>>86695280
It's not her, calm down people.

>>86700337
>There's just going to be more swearing and that's it.
Fuck...

>>86700314
I heard this 3 years ago when kson fucked off.

>>86695280
nah I stopped caring about her when she told me to improve myself

>>86695582
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/filename/1727765714230312.png/
mental illness

>>86700337
>>86700105
Sounds based. Playing games to win instead of games to promote sales, wherein she contractually had to make a performative effort at playing like shit so the stream was worthwhile.

>>86700337
once again
>Perms were never the problem.
lol, dare i even say lmao, maybe a smidgen of rofl as a side

>>86695280
I shan't be watching unless she gets naked.

>>86700431
Yeah, I remember, anons back then would tell you to jump off a bridge if you dared to say Kson would be anything but below 10k viewers going forward.
Well...

>>86698184
A tragedy. She was so bratty, so full of life...

>>86700557
They still call you Chinese if you ask what happened to her viewership.
I legit wonder how it got that bad.

>>86698243
bro she's been afk for 2 years
she just got sick of all the idol stuff, which is what people watch hololive for

she probably won't keep most of her audience

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>>86697311
because all the art of it has been shitty mspaint stuff.
It looks like she's a train conductor, specifically a steam train. (the future full-time steamer wasn't actually a typo)

>>86700557
I don't think she deserved what happened to her
if chinkoids hadn't be such unhinged mongoloids she might have still been in holo

>>86696226
Merging with awat to stay away from ligniggers.

>>86699418
she wants to full time her PL, probably can't do that under a holo contract

>>86700818
She probably won't stay away from them. Enjoy!

>already coming back
So, why did she leave then? Does holo really restricts their talents that much? Legit question, looking from the outside it seems like you made it big by turning holo, just gotta deal with the constant pressure and try to stay away from social media as much as possible. Like any idol corpo, almost no one is gonna last forever, but you could easily stay there for 7-10 years if you keep yabs at minimun.

I just want to see the kind of halfassed disaster it will be and then forget about her completely

>wears a hat
>"is this dokibird?"

>>86700901
yeah man because she was such a social butterfly before

>>86699605
they are kappas now

>>86700713
The answer is actually pretty simple: she stopped streaming. Unlike Gura who's propped up by both a company and a constant supply of merch and advertisement, an indie can't really get away with taking 6 months between streams and expect to keep her 4view audience.

>>86700922
She wants to be lazy and her old, clingy fanbase was unwanted baggage

>>86699858
First off, Kson still makes more than most members in EN.
Secondly, her CCV ranges from 1.5k-4k whenever she streams on Youtube (which is usually once a week).
Thirdly, when Kson came back she massively debuffed herself multiple times and took massive hiatuses without notice as an Indie. Her performing this well is unironically impressive.
But you take all your information from the catalog so there's no point in discussing this further

>>86699520
This affiliate status is definitely biased to Cover's benefit since it's up to their discretion if and where they want to use the Amelia Watson character. If doob pulls a gigaYAB, Cover can just quietly move Ame from affiliate to alumni.

I'm still coping that things go just well enough for both parties that it still makes sense to do projects with Amelia Watson in the future. I highly doubt she'll take up the mantle again full-time, but I've always wanted a Coco cameo at holofes and Ame could be the first to pull it off.

>>86700832
if she wasn't allowed to do what she wanted part time that she had to essentially quit, then it makes sense her new job would be full time

either way, all of the above is just one possibility in a future of many

>>86700901
I want to stay away from them, don't care about her collab partners but lignigs are insufferable brownoids. Awat consesus was to avoid them.

>>86700922
She thinks she can make it.
Not even the biggest vtuber in 2020 could. At least in the long term.

>>86700922
They have to go to Japan multiple times per year for mocap and recording. Fun once or twice for an American weeaboo, but if you’re not going full expat like Mori then that shit gets old FAST. Most people aren’t built for constant scheduled international trips and just want to sit at home, especially when they’re rich.

>>86699800
it's like a carbon copy...
https://youtu.be/8gHnOFM3Osc?si=S71wrc4xniamAZy9

>>86700818
>stay away from ligniggers
Don't be scared that's twin

>>86700922
Thirdies think a high salary and fame is all there is to life.

>>86700766
>>86698243
>He doesn't know about the PL streams last year while she was AFK

>>86700901
/lig/ is the cancer of the board I don't know why the fact they are bunkering up in their thread surprises you.

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>>86695422
>>>>>>>>holo

>>86701104
why would I? I improved myself

MARK MY WORDS SHES GOING TO BE GLOVING ON HER HANDS AND KNEES TO COME BACK ONCE HOLOEARTH IS LIVE JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER BITCHES

>>86701114
The cancer of the board is /#/ followed by Nijinigs

>>86701114
Didn't /lig/ split because it was full of schizos anti-ing 4views?

>>86698121
Based take king

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>>86701007
>First off, Kson still makes more than most members in EN
Sources cited: kson
Her metrics paint a different picture. Shes not getting money from views or SCs anymore. If companies are paying her 6 figures for sponsorships she must give amazing blowjobs. Because they're not getting their moneys worth since you know, nobody watches her.

>>86701179
holoass is doa lil bro

>>86701196
Yes.

>>86695280
I'll watch, but the moment she does a Phase collab, I'm dropping her.

wonder how her channel will do without the support of millions of chumbuds

>>86700818
>>86701114
Can't blame them, pretty smart on their part.

>>86701007
>Secondly, her CCV ranges from 1.5k-4k whenever she streams on Youtube
Yeah maybe in 2022. She had 800 on her last non flesh stream.

>>86701336
kiara tier

>>86701242
CCV =/= Income you Numbermonkey

>>86701457
Probably slightly better. Kiara gets 6k viewers at shitty midday Euro hours. If Dooby keeps her PST schedule then she’ll do fine.

>>86701570
7k on Twitch is top 3 bro.
The numbers are that bad.

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>>86701371
.

>>86701622
Yikes. Ollie can beat that.

>>86701622
Isn't this the one after the froot incident?
>Dramabuff 1k
Grim

>>86701089
Understandable, business trips are a bitch. But unless you've found a way to make it for the rest of your life (safe investments, side-project that is already a profit, etc) you aren't dropping your high-paid job just because of a few incoveniences.
Of course, that's just my wagie mentallity talking.

>>86701570
7k is Filian tier, no way she's even coming close.
She'll be a steady 1-2k CCV streamer after the debut buff of twitch and maybe double that on youtube

>>86701620
Yeah I don’t watch twitch at all. The last thing I think I watched there was an Ame stream when she pulled one, lol. Really hope Doobson actually simulcasts everything so that I don’t have to put up with twitch’s shitty UI and 13-year-old memer aesthetics.

>>86701823
Slightly above Doki/Mint tier is the safest bet honestly.

>>86701622
>lose dorito
>lose everything

>>86701823
Simulcasting means she won't be reading Youtube chat, just twitch chat.

>>86699070
You ever thought of the fact that she wants to avoid weirdoes like you?

>>86699950
>different model in every clip
looks like a woman who cant make up her mind alright, 100% Ame, 100% not watching.

>>86701947
that was in 2018. she was inventing vtubing

>>86701622
she made ~150 dollars from that stream, that's more than most people on this board make in a month

>>86701776
Assuming she'll last longer than kson did is laughable because at least kson has her big ass and tits bringing in the coomer views.
Nobody is going to watch dooby for the cs gameplay. And one she starts interacting with ligs and indies it'll be fucking over.

>>86695280
My oshi is Yagoo and Cover, no i will not be watching.

why would you delete this >>86701760
lmao talk about butthurt

>>86701933
It's cool bro I fucked off after that one karaoke stream 2 years ago.
I'm just here to grudgepost in 6 months.

>>86701990
ame invented air, its only thanks to her that we can breath

>>86702094
this anon moved on

>>86701622
I feel kson's story is more about moving on than something else.
Went from full time streaming, to do side projects and stream every once in a while, got a job for her fave franchise and keeps on getting contact with fleshies that usually aren't in the same circle as vtubers. I wanna say she moved on and still streams as another way of income instead of being the only way, but I have no proof of that at all.
Tl;dr she diversified and it backfired a bit

>>86702027
You'll be surprised. Even if all of the Holobros fuck off she'll just gain a completely new fanbase

>>86701893
Not sure about that. She'd need some incredible networking or advertising for that, and I don't know if she's capable of that yet.
Right now most people don't even know that account exists, and she's made no real efforts to spread the word.
If nothing changes, I can't see her being that huge as an indie just off of word of mouth.

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>>86701158
>2 years later and still seething about that remark
Clearly, you haven't improved.

>>86702390
I improve. This whore not.

>>86702390
she fucked up and knows it
that's why she stopped streaming after that

>>86696226
Why do you need a thread name? Just wait a couple months and use /pcg/
Why else do you think they haven't announced the new girls from those auditions a few months back?

>>86702295
Word of mouth and the fact she left on good terms without pulling a kson are gonna help her. She is not gonna have a huge dramabuff like Doki on her first months but I could see a good chunk of tourists being interested in her. If she doesn't fuck up I can see her having a 2k average a la Mint/Doki in the long run, the only issue is that the cancer cesspoll that are Twitch vtubers are gonna try to use her for clout. I hope she's ready for that.

>>86702563
>phase
That is such a retarded take and I love it

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>>86702496
>I improve. This whore not.
clearly, you didn't improve your English skills kek

>>86702641
I mean that's a good way to debuff yourself permanently, I can see Debuffson killing any future prospect she could have like that.

>>86702390
cmon anon, was a pretty clear women moment, female streamers have them all the time
no it wasn't the end of the world as some claim but it did negatively affect her career going forward

>>86702622
Name 5 problematic twitch vtubers other than Fefe and Kirsche (who everyone avoids anyways)?

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>>86702496
your english is improving
keep it up!

>>86702532
>numbermonkey headcanon

>>86702801
yeah she just stopped streaming right after that for no reason

>>86702622
She doesn't have a tenth of the work ethic doki and mint have. This is the woman that dropped every project she ever started.
Even Kiara knew she'd drop that news show.

>>86695280
No

>>86702622
ame was never less popular than selen or pomu
it would be wild if she couldn't replicate their results

>>86702750
>ERB exists
>her performance post debut and gushing over the homos didn't change
Anon...

>>86702777
Marina alone counts as 12.

>>86702874
>spelling bee
>aquarium vr
Retard

>>86702777
>Mentions only right wing vtubers as "problematic"
Their beliefs are irrelevant. If she starts collabing with indies who spout left wing American political nonsense what remains of her holo fanbase will quickly fuck off. Hololive is so popular because there's 0 political bullshit of any kind.

>>86702801
Yeah a lot of people stopped watching her for no reason.

>>86702998
Both of them had the biggest drama buff in the history of vtubing.

>>86702998
Doki took advantage of her drama buff to build a fuckton of goodwill and network even harder.
Mint was shilled 24/7 by vshojo for a while until she got on her feet and started spamming cons and events.

Ame definitely had a bigger audience and isn't any worse than them, but that won't matter if people haven't realized she exists.

>>86703031
>Look at these 2 streams she did in a span of 4 months
Thanks for proving my point

>>86702998
Selen and Pomu had exits that were so public, it permanently altered how PLs are treated going forward.
Meanwhile every other day tourists and gators have to constantly ask who Dooby is when people talk about her.
Are you serious? Look at her twitter growth and compare it both notMint's twitter and quickly it grew post graduation.

>>86696096
I mean Mint stalled for months and she's doing pretty good these days.

>>86703194
i doubt ame will be interested in doing lots of sponsorships and networking but i think she's serious about renting out her 3d studio to indies, and if so, dokimint would definitely be her patrons

>>86702998
holofans will never ever leave their walled garden
diehard teamates who would've followed her probably all oshihen when CC debuted

>>86695280
>another twitch thot
No thanks.

If she wanted numbers and popularity she would've stayed in Holo in the first place, I don't think she wants to draw attention to this new thing she's doing.

>>86697634
She cares about money and fame. As all women do.

>>86703194
This.
Part of me kinda believes that she's intentionally trying to filter some of the less loyal blue dorito fans with the way she's doing things.

>>86696096
>fucking up already by not streaming
So more of the same?

>>86703050
> If she starts collabing with indies who spout left wing American political nonsense
i doubt it, she would avoid anybody like that

>>86703334
The 3d studio is mostly for her benefit ,plus its in her house and knowing how paranoid she is i'd only seeing her retngint to people' she trusts

>>86699418
>This also implies she clearly wants to try stuff that Cover doesn't allow her to do while under hololive
Like bang the holostars

>>86703050
>Mentions openly political vtubers as problematic.
If you've got any left wing poltubers, feel free to mention them. Either way, talking about politics is a massive filter to anyone not /pol/ or Hasan brainrotted

>>86703433
No shit
It's amazing how some people have been following her for 4 years now and they still don't understand the first thing about her thought process.

>>86703409
>I don't think she wants to draw attention to this new thing she's doing.
Her entire last two weeks was an ad for it, there's seven hundred things she would have done different if she wasn't seeking attention

>>86703612
I wouldn't be surprised if she did collab with the boys, can a fan on HoloEN explain to me why anyone would expect someone who actively wants to play FPS games to not male collab?

>>86703031
to be fair, a lot of those projects are commissioned to 3rd party artists

>>86702874
ame excels when she's managing projects she's passionate about, and she's admitted to losing that passion for quite some time. i wouldn't want to work on stuff i don't care for, especially if i didn't need the paycheck that comes along with it.

i'm hoping she finds what she's looking for with her return to the indie stint, but i'm also hoping she'd appear again as Ame in the future, like if Myth did ReUnion during a live and she pops in like Suisei did during Shiraken's fes performance

>>86703409
What I find strange is that she left a very stable job to test old waters that are already overpopulated. Let's be honest plenty of gators probably already had a second and third option on Ame's timeslot whenever she didn't stream. Even graveyard shift hours have competition now.
Sure, it'll mean way less pressure, but unless she managed her finances and connections well, she's eventually gonna be struggling if she's already used to holoprofit-tier expenses.

>>86703409
If she wanted to be obscure she would have waited another 2 months. And not have announced and hyped up her comeback.

>>86703231
more successful than anything your oshi did lmao

>>86703639
They generally avoid vtubing due to thinking they look like little girls and hating lolis in general.
Plenty of the regular streamers on twitch, though.
>>86703657
Yeah, I was wondering that too.
She probably wants a real, fresh start without all the perms autism or red tape, and especially without the worst of the holobox screeching at her for being a whore for singing a song or talking to someone with a penis.

Basically, she wants to be Doki, who initially wanted to be Ame. Things really come full circle.

>>86703657
Please do explain her thought process, why would she leave the way she did and do things this way?

>>86703791
>ame excels when she's managing projects she's passionate about
Man I don't know what alternate reality you're from because I remember her dropping shit like fish tank in her first year.
Can't believe she got burned out in a few months. Guess that's what working a few hours a week does to an American woman.

>>86703925
wants to do 3d projects she can't do in holo but can't because of the non-compete clause but wants the door open to come back in case things don't work out

>>86703834
That's because you've never held a high paying job that slowly makes you hate what you're doing. Job satisfaction is not just about the paycheck. I reckon she needed to get out before holo made her hate vtubing.

>this vtubers is the best, amazing, spectacular, so entertaining and so fantastic!
>leaves the company
>suddenly the enemy and suddenly evil now, don't watch her she sucks
>literally the same exact person

I can't wait until she return to Cover after she lose her views and money

>>86704023
she likes working on new things but when it comes to continuing a series it quickly turns into an obligation which she hates

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>>86703898
>especially without the worst of the holobox screeching at her for being a whore
You really overstimate the presence and a influence of those.

>>86704095
Yeah. It’s really sad that’s how the Ame thread has turned out. Hopefully it’ll be one thread again soon.

>>86704095
Corpodrones are easily the worst and it doesn't matter if they're from Holo or Niji.

>>86704095
Anon 3/4 of her fanbase started hating her and fucked off 2 years ago. They just weren't very vocal recently because she basically disappeared for 2 years. She got way more hate than this 2 years ago.

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>YT streams
So is she gonna simulcast?

>>86704095
you're in the catalog dude, most of the people being shitty were shitty when she was in holo too. bunch of nijinigs and jealous small corpofags.

>>86695422
holo after-life

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>>86703898
selen never auditioned for hololive

When do you think she will Join Vshojo

>>86704095
Kson is not Coco dude.

>>86704245
Looks like it. I’m subbed on Twitch because it’s available there but have little interest in actually using Twitch unless I’m forced to.

>>86704295
ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّٰ

>>86704304
never as long as she remains a holo affiliate

>>86704046
Oh you just mean that, well that's pretty obvious.
What about when she started randomly streaming on the side in November? My theory is that she was checking how many people would notice and tune in at the bare minimum if she left and if it would be enough to float by with

>>86704095
Women are only good when they have a strong father figure (cover) to keep them in line.

>>86704193
We unicorngods run vtubing. The hololive members that pander to us are the most popular and top earners out of all vtuber for a reason.

>>86704095
Both Nijinigs and Holofags have the same corpodrone behaviour

>>86704245
>barely streams
>leaves the company
>suddenly has a motivation rush to stream
ummm??

>>86704304
She can't, still has a contract with Hololive

>>86695280
She wants the peace and tranquility of not being a brand mascot, I won't bother her by joining

>>86704415
calliope is basically the richest and most popular en by far so idk what you're on

>>86704425
>>86704362
You do know "affiliate" just mean they can make money off her and to tell their stock holder that there wasn't another graduation so near the last one by saying she staying as "affiliate"

>>86704297
No, but she definitely wanted to follow in Ame's footsteps and used her as a role model for the kind of vtuber she wanted to become. She's said it many times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4piq24kdOdQ&t=5645s

>>86704245
>>86704322
>>86704421
Don't forget that she never cared about anyone but those who can line her pockets

>>86702622
Literally the first thing notAme did was follow a bunch of twitch vtubers, and it's gonna be the other way around, she's likely gonna exploit them for twitch clout and for content and ideas, biggests targets on the list, probably Filian and Vedal, maybe even both at once, I mean Filian's whole strategy is doing big collabs too.

>>86704363
That's a terrible strategy because most of the people that are aware of these streams are dramafags who are just there in case she says something juicy.
They'll be there for her first few streams and will fuck off once they don't get fed.

>>86704078
I can understand that. I'm lucky to have a midpaid job that I like and I know people can be absolutely rich and miserable, doctors are a good example of that. But they stay there because money talks. If she knows an option that will give her less and make her happy, it's perfect, good for her. But I have a gut feeling that she went more for a gamble than a safe option. It's not like she gonna crash and burn immediately as soon retards here keep on telling themselves, but if she isn't constant, she's gonna struggle, a lot. On this industry, everyone is replaceable, indies suffer this the most.

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Dooby?

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>>86704418
its unironically okay when hololive does it

>>86704639
RRAT

>>86704492
Work on your bait

>>86704418
>YOU left
Chill out, Kson

>>86695280
I'm a square

>>86702026
no she didn't? youtube takes 30% and then normal taxes take another 20-30%

>>86704681
how is it bait? calli has sponsorships out the ass and collabs with major brands

>>86699418
>other members still do PL activities, but she can't?
To my knowledge, no one in en has done such activities using live2d or 3d models. JPs may have, but the contracts are likely different, especially for the older members.

>>86704557
This, "affiliate" was probably a proposal from Cover's end trying to damage control and Ame just went with it (probably for some promise of free money for going with it). It also seems EN is run under a different management structure for most things and they managed to convince Cover to try it.

I dunno what they are smoking or who they think they are fooling however as anyone looking like 2 words past any headline reading "Amelia Watson becomes Hololive affiliate" will realize it functionally is graduation.

>>86704620
If she cared about that she would've just been like Gura and just kept the status quo. She must know that there's not a chance in he'll she'll make the same kind of money for as little work outside of hololive.
>>86704639
God, I hope so.
>>86704681
Anon? She has a fucking universal records deal and shows up on goddamn japanese television regularly. Streaming is just her hobby at this point.

>>86704667
It's not even that hard to understand, Holo envrioment is pretty good, gives the girl a lot of opportunities and the interactions between them are great. Nijisanji is a concentration camp.

>>86704710
>normal taxes take another 20-30%
she's californian you retard. at her tax bracket, it's around 50% effective tax rate for both state and federal.
but she could probably write off like 200k for amestudio build

>>86704785
Watch streams.
>Inb4 cover forced her to say that
Fuck off

>>86704747
>>86704802
Deadbeats are hilarious. They actually believe Mori outearns Gura.

>>86704631
She made a calculated gamble negotiating the affiliate status. It keeps the door open for future revenue streams not available to your average indie.

I like to think of it like a sabbatical leave, except Cover is not obligated to give her her old job back once she's finished her stint. Maybe there's a timeline that exists where she gets to be the first ungraduated corpo vtuber, but I highly doubt it's gonna be this one.

>>86704875
You can tell she was over it in her last stream

>>86704939
mori gets higher views on her channel than gura does so yeah she probably does

>>86704956
>calculated
ame is a high school dropout and can't even do long division. she didn't calculate shit

>>86704939
Streaming and getting all the music collabs would do that

>>86704939
Mori actually streams so yeah

>>86704956
She's not the first.
Bullypanda apparently graduated because Niji wouldn't let her play pokemon, and then ungraduated after they got the perms.

>>86704557
Blud, Cover made Kanata change home the second Kson got in Vshojo. The second Ame missteps that affiliate changes to graduation.

>>86705088
>>86705034
>>86705002
Gura merch and memberships 100% outperform Mori’s hard work. And I say this as a deadbeat who actually enjoys her music rather than just laughs at it,

>>86704627
She already follows Vedal.
>>86704628
How would dramafags know when a PL account that hasn't been active in several years does a gorilla Counterstrike stream? The only people who would notice things like that and notify other people are superfans who stalk her socials and alt accounts.

>>86704939
It's Gura>Mori>powergap>Fauna/Ina/Fuwamoco for EN

>>86705209
I absolutely believe fuwamoco earns a ton of money.
I also believe they're retards who likely go through it like water with all their idol projects.

>>86704959
The big project was the aquarium, the graduation was classic Ame scuff which was pretty nostalgic.

>>86705188
The twitter algorithm told everyone who follows vtubers about Dooby3D. Word has been spreading organically.

>>86705188
Dramafags stalk socials of big vtubers.
Dramafags stalk everything.

>>86705309
she has 20k subs on her youtube channel
that's pathetic

>>86705262
Yeah, I don't know how to place those three because they all excel in different aspects.

>>86705342
Home boy, she graduated 2 days ago.

>>86705342
That's more than phase new gen...

>>86705426
Kson and mikeneko gained multiple hundreds of thousands of subs after reactivating their accounts.

>>86705524
dokibird didn't get any subs until her first drama stream. same with mint

>>86705309
>Word has been spreading organically.
You mean slowly. I expected her twitter to have at least 75k followers by now but it seems more like a trickle of people finding out, being confused, then figuring it out one by one.
If she really wanted to blow up quickly, she should have done a voice tweet

>>86705587
Well maybe she didn’t want to. Maybe she just wants to have chill streams her way again and call gamers cucks while playing with her friends.

>>86698121
>Least beliavable falseflagger schizo
Thanks for the daily clowning, I wonder what is under the mask now.

>>86696473
For me it's https://youtu.be/cPShs5cleSI?si=DM70HtN9CGjbPq8E

>>86705585
NerdMint got like 200k twitter followers when she was on hiatus and her twitter spaces talking about her random breakfasts before school had 2k+ listeners tuning in

>>86705765
*almost 200k

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>>86704207
Niji is unique in that the leadership and the management manages to be even worse than the fanbase. Fans are the worst thing to happen to vtubing, but Niji is trailblazing.

>>86705692
i will now watch her debut.

>>86704095
Holoponies do be like that

>>86705689
I wonder if he’s the guy actively killing the Ame general by suppressing all Dooby discussion there. To what end? Kinda hate how some of this board’s terminally online regulars behave,

>>86706126
Nta but you are a nigger and I am glad they kicked you out.

>>86705692
>0:32
fucking lol

>>86698121
BASED

"The things you call dead haven't yet had the chance to be born." -The Scatman

>>86706199
Didn’t get “kicked out” of anywhere. Whatever that means.

At least we can talk about Dooby3D here in peace and watch old Sachi content without getting the janny called to delete half the thread.

>>86706541
Wait for her to debut and the thread to change name/merge fucking stupid twitter nigger. I hate you tourist niggers so fucking much

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Any collab notAme does with anyone, los retardados are gonna be calling both the sides leeches. Oh no, the former ivory tower holowhore is leeching off my beloved indie_name. Oh no, that indie tramp is leeching off Ame.

>>86706625
>pure unadulterated toxic autism
Thanks for literally killing your oshi’s general, bud.

>>86699418
Well, Noel is a pretty famous example of moonlighting. If cover is willing to overlook Noel's other job, I believe Ame should have quite a bit of freedom.

>>86706673
Lig leeches already ready to cry.

>>86706757
You ignored my actual point because you know I'm right. Stay in lig nigger.

>>86706625
NTA but you do realise that liggers will invade your thread on the 20th and will be there to stay?
If you're fine with it, go ahead - but i'm just letting you know that "tourists" will unironically be the majority of your thread posters from now on.

>>86706541
>>/big/

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Redpill me on the "improve yourself" and the downfall of her channel, where can I read/watch more on this topic?

>>86706942
As long as the old guard stays I'm pretty sure we can manage to keep that place not a shithole.

>>86707108
it's basically 90% catalogshit fanfiction, don't bother

>>86707108
I'm gonna be real, the real problem was her going back to her family and the fucking termites.

>>86706673
Me personally I cant wait to see notAme suck Vedal dry, I love when bitches leech him, she better be nice to the Neuros tho

>>86707108
She said that people upset that she collabs with males should perhaps use that emotion to go and improve themselves instead.
>>86707109
You’re making the Ame general a shithole and killing it by suppressing anyone who wants to talk about Dooby3D. Actively killing people watching videos posted in this very thread with no problem, actively killing hype for your supposed oshi’s future endeavor. Because you’re super fucking autistic.

>>86707286
Holobronies are just autistic, for all their seethe about Niji, at least they just go and follow their oshis regardless of where they go, whereas to them is a sacrament if you dare leave Holo. Who cares, they're both autistic Jap companies. Yagoo being a cooler dude doesnt meant he makes all the decisions instead of a bunch of suits that dont know shit and salarymen phoning it in, like most entertaiment corporations.

>>86696096
weeding out the fakes then

>>86707286
Jeez, let the rest of gators grieve for a moment, their Oshi just stopped being part of a corpo in the most confusing way possible.

>>86707286
>You’re making the Ame general a shithole and killing it by suppressing anyone who wants to talk about Dooby3D
Wait for her debut fucking spastic. It's Ame's thread for now the day she debuts it's gonna be Ame and Dooby.

>>86707636
Stop talking with the underage lignigger.

you can always discuss dooby in those indie generals

>>86707636
Thats anothing thing, you insisting on it being an Ame thread and giving that priority, you dont see the dragoons calling it t he Selen/Doki general, same deal for Mint, or all the ex-nijis and kson in VShojo. Not that we shouldnt talk about Ame, but that gives the impression that the one appereance Ame will make in like a year at some thing will matter more that all of Dooby's streams.

>>86707286
>>86707606
Also temporarily bake /dooby/ if it really matters to you. Vshojo bakes /mouse/ for a month every year to discuss the subathon and dragooners baked /doki/ during selen's hiatus in january to talk about her PL tweets

>>86701180
>general full of Holobros
>worse than Nijisisters
Only sisters hate /#/ because it shows how inferior their chuubas are

>>86707809
Dooby didn't even debut mongo.

>>86707847
are you really saying that /#/ is a good thread lmao

>>86707822
you're in /dooby/ right now

>>86707900
shes posting there every day lil bro, and is planning to focus mainly on twitch and twitch vtubers, keep seething forever or accept that some manner of indie fans will join her new fanbase

>>86707937
well then i suggest you bake again, because this thread is about to die soon

>>86707636
That’s fine. Just stop seething that there are two threads. Because as long as you actual autistic manchildren keep mass reporting all Dooby3D content in the Ame thread then there’s gotta be two.

>>86707981
>Lil bro
Never post in awat please, good lord we are gonna need to root a lot of twitch niggers...

>>86708047
>we