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Lime Time Edition
Previously on /fvr/:
>Nyana is doing a new donathon! https://youtu.be/l42RBrLiJYE?
>Donna is now a gyaru and played Noita! https://youtu.be/itqfTX7hivw
>Juwun had a collab with two friends, Saltea and Kyuunii! https://youtu.be/oglkRT5FFy8
Kino played more Luigi's Mansion, stealing everything! https://youtu.be/-E6MxCc2jzM

>What's this about?
Phase Connect's Pipkin Pippa (and eventually Panko) designed a parody VTuber company with AI-generated art. Some of her fans played along and it outgrew the joke to become an actual indie circle (with Pippa's blessing), using a corpo-style gen structure and AI art as a kickoff point. Some of the talents have reached consistent 3views and a couple of 4views, it is only time for complete FlaVR domination. Some designs were made /here/ by AI wrangling anons.

▼Community Hub & OP Template:
flavr.kuraicorp.com
rentry.org/FlaVROPCopypasta

▼FlaVR General Friends
Korean Vtubers >>>/vt//vnug/
Chocolate Chuubas >>>/vt//choc/
Idol Corp >>>/vt//jidf/
Kiki’s Thread >>>/vt/pyon
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>>86761395
Kino can be a bit scary at times...
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Been going for 2 hrs!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7iZ8c3JaSk
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>>86763267
Sheet, I forgot about the 'tism gang.
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>>86764199
Never 4getti
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>>86766192
Man. I miss Sawas streams...
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>>86745638
I really liked choc in Divegrass. It was pretty fun. I don't know what goes on with lig but now they have big which looks like lig 2.0. It feels like liggers can't even stand each other.
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>>86770506
It sounds like two cliques who each want their own thread, since /big/ sound like /lig/ with a different label.
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>>86770506
Divegrass was fun this year, even if we didn't win imo
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>>86773727
the last few matches were pretty intense even though my second pick didn't win either
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>>86763267
Zoochosis... was expecting a zoo sim with horror elements, got amoung us but with alot of bugs glad I got for free LOL

>>86764199
You know it LOL

>>86766192
Sawa Love
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>>86774564
Hey, it's like real soccer then, right? Also if anyone is looking for something to watch besides then donathon, FlaVR Friend Maika is streaming Poppy Playtime. https://youtu.be/YP02LqNsf3I?
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>>86774564
Glad to hear you guys enjoyed divegrass. I haven't forgotten about the post divegrass poll, I've just been busy with the new full time jorb taking all of my energy away. It'll be up soon.
I don't think we'll have a prospective player poll this time around, just a write in for any new players you'd like to see added to the team. The thread's changed a lot over the last two years and I haven't kept up all that well this league cycle to make a list on my own.
I'll also ask if we want to do a full team restructure that would take place before next cup to help collect poi or if we want to keep most of the players. Just a yes or no vote, so don't worry about much changing just yet.
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https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkxj0Zc_bcowZAD_BDwU0vqkjJJzosPWABO
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>>86768761
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>>86782215
YEEEEEEEAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAA MY HOMBRE THANK YOU.
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Goodnight /fvr/ see you tomorrow!
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>>86770660
I have no problem with that if it helps people have some peace and quiet. That's how it is with the other Phase threads, pcg is way too chaotic for everybody.
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>>86785720
Phase got too big for one thread, like what happened to Holo and Ninjisanji. Guess the indie scene is centralizing now too in its own way.
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>>86787794
I cannot imagine Hololive with a single thread, even before EN they already had like 30 JP talents
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>>86783928
Goodnight
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>>86782215
she's back, incredible
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Midnight bump
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>>86770660
What's the difference between the two?
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>>86803313
Do you think if you died in the same room as her, she would eat your face?
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>>86798378
I guess the new ones, big, want to focus on the over 1000 CCV liggers, and not worry about the smaller. That helps prevent shitposting with fewer chuubas.
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>>86804288
no
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>>86798378
Nothing it sounds like, except who's on-topic.
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>>86800885
: )
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>>86811791
It's like a weird mix between Sawa, Raimi, and Nyana.
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>>86809964
It sounds like semantics at that point imo.
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>>86812940
If you consider chuubas smaller than 1000 CCV that invites talk about a lot of chuubas. Simply by putting the limit above 1000 CCV, you provide a higher bar of entry, and thus more focused discussions. It is a noble goal but if the posters are the problem, then no matter what threshold you put, the thread will still be shit.
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>>86812940
I think I can understand if you look at things from a numbers perspective then focusing in on a few higher ccv chuubas guarantees to some extent that they stay around longer.
And considering most Chuubas have a attrition rate of 1 year those are not good numbers it means that your Chuuba might graduate earlier than average. I not much of a numbers person but I can understand if your Chuuba doesn't have the war chest to supply what should be a hobby then they're relying on either dono's or adverts. And if a lifespan of a Chuuba is 1 year then the average war chest is about 1-3 months before having to get a job.
And if your Chuuba gets a job then that mean infrequent to more less than streams.

From the Board perspective its probably very unhealthy as it splits the community and doesn't really solve the the posters. I wonder if its even healthy for the Chuuba in this instance as it makes things more tribal between the segregated boards.

I hope it gets better over for you and things get resolved as a divided community is never a good thing. I've visited and had very good and fun interactions with both Pyon and HaHa and I love FlaVR cause doi LOL. It always good to have a healthy relationship
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>>86814785
>segregated boards.
they are threads, not boards
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWAM_Y0TooQ Brolime doing something
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>>86815451
He's playing Witchfire it seems.
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>>86782215
yeah baby LFG
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>>86816183
I know, it's gonna be great.
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>>86814122
Sounds about right.
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>>86814785
I think you need a new chestplate, Malone.
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>>86821820
Boobs are king.
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Nyana back on the grind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWCWtIcNgF0
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>>86828469
This next concert better be a doozy.
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>>86829146
don't think she's going to get enough from this to actually do anything, unless people are holding out
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>>86761395
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>>86829692
Yeah, probably just a small one at best
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>>86828469
Glad to see she's still 8n high spirits.
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>>86829692
yeah just checked and she only has 1.5k raised out of 30k with one day left I think the timing was a poor choice with most dumping a lot of money into vtubers last month because of twitch's subtember thing
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Juwun time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfL68lxtwtw
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>>86835741
the idol dramas and general 2view behavior have really hurt small/mid sized indies income wise, even alienmixture is planning on calling it quits if things don't pick up
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>>86836919
could also be people just don't have money to give because things are way to pricey in the states
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>>86837901
could also just be too lofty of a goal
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>>86838691
could also be she has done 4 or so of them and only being around for a year and a half
milking them dry like come on
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Splatts is live with Lulu Teala

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S43btHclFHg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S43btHclFHg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S43btHclFHg
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>>86839035
Aside from the first one carried by a single whale, none of the rest of them actually made that much, probably less than other vtubers her size make in a month even without doing dono events
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>>86836919
>alienmixture
I literally just found her too, look like the smaller indies are going to be feeling the squeeze.
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>>86839942
I dropped her after that donothon when foot reveal was the impossible amount and that whale met it and she pussied out. Kind of impressively shameless of her to try and contiue to grift footfags after that.
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>>86836919
this is not generalized, it's on a case by case basis.
>calling it quits
Well, yes, but... who? Just because one indie quits it doesn't mean other indies aren't doing okay. Nyana is a success story but she's a bit too eager with these donothons.
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>>86841631
I forgot all about that no wonder she doesn't have a whale anymore lol
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>>86844342
>she's a bit too eager with these donothons.
I think her issue is that she wants to do these big projects but doesn't have the backing to do it, so she keeps running a donothon to try and fund it. Also doesn't help going straight from a charity stream to a donothon. Not the best of ideas.
She might have better success with applying to a corpo to see if she can get the resources from them to do what she wants, but the small corpo field is a minefield
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>>86848155
I don't think Nyana is corpo material, unless it's a corpo that basically lets her do anything she wants, in which case why be in a corpo in the first place. I think she wouldn't trade that freedom. I just think she's trying to grow too fast; she should grind more just regular streams and collabs before attempting big projects.
With that said... I don't know her personal finances nor any other details from her personal life. For all I know, she already has enough money to carry these projects, so she will do them anyway.
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NiiCola guitar effects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZKJ8hUEI-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZKJ8hUEI-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZKJ8hUEI-4
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>>86848897
Nyana loves her freedom too much for sure.
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>>86841631
She didn't pussy out, she said it was the feet of her model. I think the worse thing she's done is fleshpost too much. She doesn't need to do that; that's Twitch-like behavior.
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Splatts is in between two streams right now and just announced her seventh stream this week, dafaq

https://x.com/AmandaSplatts/status/1842744471768760361
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>>86855563
He has MSD (Marathon Stream Disease)
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>>86855437
>she said it was the feet of her model
yeah, after he met the goal
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>>86855437
I'm so sorry bro but she pretty much is a twitch vtuber at this point.
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>>86858074
But she's treats on Youtube?
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Minna soon tabun maybe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPUi7b8P9KM
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Goodnight /fvr/ see you tomorrow!
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Splatts is live with Minna

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FosFFeZpfbE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FosFFeZpfbE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FosFFeZpfbE
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>>86857541
No, she said it before the goal was met.
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>>86858074
She's on the verge of going full Twitch but she hasn't crossed that line.
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>>86864869
>feet posing in 2024
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>>86866614
I trust in Nyana.
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>>86766192
Cute outfit
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>>86766192
great outfit
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>>86761395
Dead Community
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>>86878920
I can fix her
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Splatts is live again with Half Minute Hero, finishing off the main campaign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RN7qX0Rh2w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RN7qX0Rh2w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RN7qX0Rh2w
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>>86882855
He is on a roll, I hope he doesn't burn out.
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eem
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>>86882855
"I dropped the screw in the tuna"

Old Hag confirmed.
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>>86886165
No shit, look what he plays lol.
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>>86782215
niceee
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>>86869927
Yeah, hopefully she stays the course.
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>>86889412
I iniw I'm glad Sawas gonna be back doing her VN voice overs
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>>86892108
I'm sure she will, she has a bunch of vtuber friends on youtube.
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>>86895407
more than staying on Youtube, what I mean is that she should avoid going full coomer or something like that; that type of content is what I consider Twitch-like.
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Splatts is watching Manos on Tuesday.
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>>86883721
He does this. Stream 7-8 times one week, then 1-2 times the next.
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RAIMI RICOTTA
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wat da hell!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxDMAwpxjnY
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>>86898572
Oh, this is in 3.5 hours from now
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>>86899173
Damn brolime has a waiting room up early for once
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I love how chill the board is these days. No drama. Just enjoying your oshis.
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>>86899652
Interesting subject matter too.
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>>86901694
most of the posters left that's why splatt and its thanks to you shitting up the place
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I was a bit exhausted with all the shit flinging... fucking gays
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Splatts' 7th stream this week, Risk with Zosimus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsvYb0zO9-U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsvYb0zO9-U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsvYb0zO9-U
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Nyana playing TCG Sim apparently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRYq6hU3B3c
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Minna and her dad doing a Q&A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DegCtHTSd8c
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>>86904802
Her Dad looks jacked
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>>86904802
Minnas dad is cool.
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>>86898572
brother lime in 40 minutes
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>>86903175
Jeez, Risk gets nuts when you get down to two people.
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>>86907917
I would say that's when it stops becoming table politics and starts being about strategy and risk assessment.
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Bro Lemon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxDMAwpxjnY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxDMAwpxjnY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxDMAwpxjnY
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>>86909938
>:(
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>>86909938
Huh.
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>>86909938
kek
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Nyana will be back at 18:30 CDT, or in about 1 hour.
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>>86903443
Nyana should be back shortly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRYq6hU3B3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRYq6hU3B3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRYq6hU3B3c
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Packed night.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8KV8JauIjs
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>>86909938
Now for Raimi's stream
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OtsuLime
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Juwun is playing Getting Over It

https://www.youtube.com/live/FFKUch9gNUE

https://www.youtube.com/live/FFKUch9gNUE

https://www.youtube.com/live/FFKUch9gNUE
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>>86920639
I guess it's time for another wave of Getting Over it speedruns then.
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I remember when Nayvell tried Getting Over it... or the other one by the same developers.
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>>86924159
Bless the half normie's soul
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>>86924159
I miss Nayvell
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Cowun is hot is there any porn of him?
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>>86928737
She'll pop in at some point again.
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Is that a typo?
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>>86935000
He meant Juwun I think.
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>>86850214
cute image
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Goodnight /fvr/ see you tomorrow!
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guunite faggit, however, the board is a bit fast at the moment because of a series of "announcement" streams incoming in two days
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>>86940929
Is this a Hololive or Ninjisanji "announcement"? Or is this more a small corpo kind of one.
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>>86941065
Production kawaii
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>>86762385
scary can be kino
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Neo's parkour stream was kino
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>>86951894
catatvideogames, that's funny
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>>86947646
Shame we'll never get this again.
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>>86953158
you're going to monkey's paw another wave of Ark FOTM spam anon
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv_GMpc66OA Brolime zatsu soon
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>>86953476
That's pretty cute for a trend.
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>>86954712
>trend
What, vtubers in traditional Japanese wear?
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>>86953975
Started 1 hour ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv_GMpc66OA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv_GMpc66OA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv_GMpc66OA
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>>86956365
It's a pretty chill stream compared to yesterday's one.
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>>86953476
>巫女
Interesting. Apparently this combination of kanji is read "miko", and means "shrine maiden".
Individually the characters are read
>巫 = kannagi
shaman
>女 = onna
woman
So 巫女 has a special pronunciation for the concept of "shrine maiden".
One of the Japanese members of Phase who debuted at the beginning of this year is
>巫ロキ = Kannagi Loki
She's a "goddess of fertility", so she's kind of a shrine maiden as well.
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>>86814941
Shhh, let the tourist go on believing it. Its funnier that way.
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>>86953975
>>86956365
OtsuLime. Lime bro ended and raided Himawari Koutetsu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsAWT2iF_Oo
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>>86956791
Shrine Maiden Nyana sounds pretty cool ngl.
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>>86761395
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>>86953476
Not sexy enough imo
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what did she mean by this?
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>>86964758
>she
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Kinolime playing Cry of Fear again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnOeiEP8xLk
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>>86965985
Finally, so good fucking food.
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>>86964758
the transexual shitting on "those" people? what?
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>>86967659
the "Rainbow Coalition" isn't as united as they like to claim.
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>>86965985
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Horrorween month continues with Carrion
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>>86972449
Lewd thumbnail.
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>>86972449
Wew
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>>86978770
That's one thick kitty.
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So whats the deal with Sena these days, I hardly ever see her posted
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>>86980592
She's on Twitch, and unfortunately I don't check Twitch often. She has a very solid schedule, almost every day at the same time, 9 PM EDT or 6 PM PDT. So if you ever want to see what she's doing just go to Twitch at that time and you'll probably see her.
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As per her schedule, tonight Sawa returns with Higurashi. It's in 4 hours.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=morlSPSadd8
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>>86980592
Nobody itt uses twitch, so nobody watches the streams, leading to nobody posting about her. Her streams will sometimes show up in choc, as that's where the last build-a-bear went to after the babinikus invaded
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>>86978770
Onahole
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>>86983371
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>>86986229
WHY IS SHE WHITE REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>86984069
kek
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>>86986562
Because she's just tanned, it's what happens when she's not in the sun lol.
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Sena is not streaming!
https://www.twitch.tv/sena_bonbon
https://www.twitch.tv/sena_bonbon
https://www.twitch.tv/sena_bonbon
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>>86980592
she usually overlaps Nyana, and I can't watch two chats and keep up with other streams, I try to post her schedule when I catch it though
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Juwun has been playing Prince of Persia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Br2rdB0BHY
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>>86990189
She doesn't tough? Sena usually streams at 9 PM EDT, while Nyana starts her streams at 6 PM EDT, so often Nyana ends before Sena starts. Sena basically overlaps Pippa, and Nyana is often in Pippa's chat, which means Nyana ends her stream and then watches Pippa.
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>>86990530
Juwun can be my prince
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oh nyo! your phone has been infected with the sena virus!
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>>86992061
Can Sena fix my phone then?
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>>86994444
yeah, but it'll cost ya...
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Sawa Halloween costume
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=morlSPSadd8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=morlSPSadd8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=morlSPSadd8
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I should watch Sena's streams more often.
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>>87000988
Ogey
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Goodnight /fvr/ see you tomorrow!
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>>86995258
Fine, I'll pay up.
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>>87002535
goodnight
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>>87003464
alright. all it's gonna cost is your virginity
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>>87002535
Good night anon!
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>>87007701
dat's good roleplay, not gay at all, just wholesome direct heterosexual seggsy time
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Mehloposter went back to pcg it seems...
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>>86967659
>>86967659
>>86968387
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Why isn't Sena's mouth wrapped around my cock this very moment?
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>Discordniggers
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>>86965417
based
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he's a crazy motherfucker... not a surprise, really
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I wonder if mehloposter knows about a certain chinchilla
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>>87007701
sounds good
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>>87012996
He does I'm pretty sure.
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>>87012996
All the dedicated marshmallows were there day one for the chinchilla. Don't worry too much
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>>86996449
VOD gang coming in late, good to have Sawa back, and god damn this playthrough has some great cliffhangers, can't wait for the next episode on wednesday.
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Yeah
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>>87020994
Cute costume!
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>>87016370
My wife.
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Cute smore playing the wizard game
https://www.twitch.tv/mixiemixin
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https://twitter.com/Bonbon_Sena/status/1843686762876678168
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>>87024094
Wizard game seems fun
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>>87025707
>RPG Maker games
So Mad Father or Ib then?
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>>87028601
Are RPG maker games in style again? I know Splatts played Misao recently.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNiZx0s7feM
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It KINO Time with pumpkins!
https://youtu.be/X4PZ6gSDTH0
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>>87021059
It is cute.
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>>87029640
She has pretty good art for her thumbnnails
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>>87031914
She's a decent artist.
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Horrorween with Water Delivery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwZxJdZc1b8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwZxJdZc1b8
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>>87035199
Interesting subject matter for a horror game
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Nyana soon with the weather https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16TSdUxpdw0
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>>87040129
she gonna talk about the weather?
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>>87040987
>>87040129
Wait, is she in Florida?
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My Internet is garbage today. I can only assume it's the storm affecting the Internet pipes that eventually lead to my home.
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here's the skit https://x.com/Nyanabanyana/status/1843788275556987370
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>>87041891
Probably, it's gonna be really bad if your in the danger zone.
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Lulu is playing Symphony of the Night. Based.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkwvOA2m7Wk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkwvOA2m7Wk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkwvOA2m7Wk
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>>87041289
I hope not.
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>>87046508
Florida bros stay safe
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>>87044328
Lol, nice one Gato
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>>87037183
This was a very fun game and it was not a simple delivery job LOL... was not expecting the Epstein island turn at the end LOL
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Splatts is live with a movie watchalong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHhPyjcd1Oo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHhPyjcd1Oo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHhPyjcd1Oo
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Sena started 2 hours ago. Charlotte episode 1.
https://www.twitch.tv/sena_bonbon
https://www.twitch.tv/sena_bonbon
https://www.twitch.tv/sena_bonbon
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>>86798378
It's two cliques arguing about what the thread is supposed to be about. Same shit as /vrt/ and /vrg/.
Not coincidentally, all of these generals are probably among the hardest to get any value out of if you're not a regular.
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>>87057573
Separation of /vt/ into /vt/ and /vtg/ when
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>>86956791
Pairs of kanji getting a different reading and a nuanced meaning is par for the course. This part is all imported from Chinese basically (in multiple waves across history).
>巫ロキ = Kannagi Loki
Did you know Clara's name is a pun?
"Kaminari" would normally be the reading of 雷 meaning "lightning", but she writes it with
>歌 = uta
singing
>美 = bi
beauty (also used to write 美しい = utsukushii "beautiful")
>鳴 = na (but not used by itself in Japanese)
鳴る (naru) is to make a sound, 鳴く (naku) is the same thing but for animal noises
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>>87057785
I wish.
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Splatts movie night, second try

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BipWsB6ezSI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BipWsB6ezSI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BipWsB6ezSI
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>>87058458
Oh, yeah, I saw the Kaminari thing when she debuted. When you analyze it, it's brilliant; her name is "lightning" but written with a combination of kanji that could be interpreted as "singing pretty sounds".
However, I think the "miko" 巫女 reading is pretty unusual. According to jisho, the 巫 kanji has a kun-yomi reading of "miko", so the 女 kanji doesn't add anything to the pronunciation, basically it's just a sign to indicate it's a woman, a maiden.
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>>87056874
Tits?
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>>87056874
OtsuBon. Sena ended her stream and raided Bagsterd who's playing the Silent Hill 2 remake which is a hot game now.
https://www.twitch.tv/bagsterd
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>>87058598
I can definitely see that being a thing as the indie scene starts to consolidate and you start to see generals get set up around certain cliques. Eventually some big drama will happen or it'll get too crowded and the mods will do what happened to /v/ and make a new board.
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Goodnight /fvr/ see you tomorrow!
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>>87068568
Goodnight anon!
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>>87068568
Have a good night! ^ ^
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>>87068568
goodnight
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>>87033598
are those not commissions?
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>>87075540
I think they are
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fvr, no!
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LIVE
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>>87079908



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