She is not wrong tho
>>86765008Because Shondo wouldnever lie about such a thing.
>they're schizos in 90% of the cases but they're right all the timeWhich one is it woman????
I genuinely wondered if she’s off her psychosis meds seeing that
>>86765161true but she is probably going to delete everything tomorrow anyway
>>86765272She doesn't know which it is, she only holds whatever opinion will make her followers more parasocial for her at the moment.
>>86765008This works for 2views and low 3views who "hire" managers of personal relation.It doesn't really apply to 4views like Doki who can afford to delegate tasks like a businessperson.
>>86765008I must admit, I don't understand what she's trying to say.
>>86765406She's not talking about Doki.
>>86765406You don't understand. Shondo doesn't have a manager, so obviously any vtuber that does have a manager must be a whore instead.
holy shit
>>86765008most sane pedophile streamer
>>86765532based
>>86765532based i guess
>>86765491Pick me, pick me, pick me. All these girls have boyfriends but not me. Pick me!All of them have boyfriends, femcels aren't real.
>>86765008I understand every single word but once she put them together I fail to understand the meaning of them
HOLY PICKME
>>86765567LMAO
she's off her meds
>>86765511She's responding to a post about emails to more popular indies being handled by a manager.
>>86765691I wish Shondo was the cute kind of pick me, but instead she's just the annoying kind, what a waste...
>>86765709>saying it how it isBASED
>>86765691'pick me' is supposed to be appealing thothis is just hysteria
>>86765008The "manager" will always be sus when you're not a in corpo but who cares, almost all Vtubers are lying pieces of shit.
she going to delete everything in a few hours unfortunately
>>86765532Kek
>>86765532Is she wrong?
>>86765529shondo said "indies" not any vtuber you seething cuck ligger
>>86765532Very based.
Holy shit hahahahaShe’s the seething femanon and this is great
>>86765691>>86765709Holy moly, I may have to pick her. This is so fucking based.
>>86765272That isn’t even what she said
W-who is doing sexual favours to Yagoo?
>>86766043There are some gigantic indies. Do you think Doki is dating her manager?
>>86766227Doki is in the top 1%. For every Doki, there are thousands of tiny ones.
>>86766227Doki, Shylily and anyone in Mythic are not indies according to Shondo
>>86766142unless she goes on hiatus
>>86765008>>86765532>>86765691Whether or not you agree with what she's saying in these tweets, she's gained quite a lot of support in the indie community on twitter over her hiatus and her two recent bans - I think this will probably harm that support.
>>86766198Yes it isRead her post again
>>86766304Kinda crazy that someone who admitted to attempting to murder her whole family and then herself has so much support from everyone.
>>86765942>RANDOM E-THOT HAS APPEARED!!I pick YOU, Shondo!
>You can trust me because I check emails myself UNLIKE OTHER VTUBERS WHO ARE ALL WHORESdo I have that right?
>>86765691Roastie hands typed this post
is pickme supposed to be an insult?
>>86765532
>>86766377Wait until you learn there are unironic school shooter fanbases.
>>86766389Alright anons, roll the clips of her implying to have never been in a relationship!
>>86766377its the internet, people forget about shit
>>86766433Yeah. She's based.
>>86766516It's used solely by women, men who think they're women, or men who are larping as women to bait.
>>86766389>I've talked about it extensively on streamHas she actually? I don't really watch her but I feel like I would've heard about that from the sheer seethe it would generate
>>86766389NO WAY KEK
>>86766653Anon, it's a well known fact.
i...i don't think she's ever mentioned a previous boyfriend on stream...
>>86766653She has multiple times.
>>86766716Yes, she has. In fact, it comes up in her general often too.
>>86765532Maybe I'm a degenerate but I don't consider it slutty to have one boyfriend at any point.
>>86765691has she ever heard of kson
Shondo is off her meds and scanning the catalog to see what people REALLY think about her, say something nice!
>>86766389>ratmannjonesIsn’t this the schizo that Tenma told to kill himself?
>>86765567(you)?
>if you have a manager it's your boyfriend>it it's not your boyfriend it's someone who just wants to have sex with you>lol checkmate, you're a slut!
>>86766836Please have sex with me and be mine, Shondo.
>"I'm a hag now and I'm so lonely">is confirmed married to a dude>"I'm a virgin and will never have anyone of my own">*Actively trying to fuck one of her discord mods who gets weirded out and exposes her*>"I'm so alone and did I mention I'm horny chat, also a virgin!"
>>86766742did shondo claim said boyfriend to be her manager though?
>>86766938These are facts. Men who help a tiny indie and can't get paid well want to fuck her.
>>86766971No.
>>86766953Did she ever respond to the exposse?
me btw
>>86765272>all the timeWhy are you lying about what she said?
>>86765008And I thought I found the best tweet earlier.
>>86766389She's telling the truth, she never said she was never in a relationship
>>86765691this is the person making schizoposts on 4chan btw
>>86765691Has she ever heard of Dokibird?
>>86765942Let's be honest Shondo is probably right about this particular girls case lol
>>86766953Qrd? I like this horny slut
>>86766938She's not lying though, that's why I work solo <---indie
>>86765272Being a schizo doesn't mean you're necessarily wrong, just that you're not arriving at your conclusion by valid reasoning.
>>86765532>Writing shit like this when all eyes are currently on youNiji tier stupidity
>>86766836shondo the time you did the onee-sama accent I got rock hardt. clipwatcher and also unironic schizo
>>86766304But she is right, if you as an indie don't think it matters than you should be open about having a bf if you have one, if you think it do think it matters than you wouldn't have one thus would not have a need to lie.
She's kinda fucking based rn ngl
>>86767188She basically counts big streamers as a different species
>>86766377QRD ?
>>86767285(you)
>>86767188Dokibird is basically a corpo with 1 talent.
>>86767367Agreed
>>86766281She is right, Mythic is a talent management company that provide managers and mods, collabs partners, partnership with business and manage ads.
>>86766227She literally is incorporated
>>86767202the way she respond is funny
>>86765532B-B-B-B-BASED and, dare I say, red-pilled.
>>86765008she’s 100% right about all of this, you don’t even need to like shondo to admit that
>>86766836Shondo please either take your meds or have sex with me. You can't have it both ways.
>>86767383Such a retarded cope. Oh well, I can't disprove her if she refuses to accept any example of big indies, I don't follow many small ones.
>>86765008BAYZZZZZZZZZZZEDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>86766377Now you're making her sound interesting. Why did she do it?
>>86767188By her definition Doki isn't an indie. Her argument is basically "if you don't have the income and numbers to actually need or be able to afford to have a manager, how do you have a manager? It must be a boyfriend or a groomer"
>>86767431So independent contractors (who have an LLC, just like she does) aren't actually independent either then?
>>86767568And she's right!
>>86765532Actually based. Roasties gonna stay mad at the truth.
Based and truthpilledAlthough to be fair, I never watch indies with a "manager"
that's literally manager's job you dumb fuckshe's basically saying>there doesn't exist an indie with a manager because i don't consider people with managers indies
>>86765008reminder that out of all the cliques in the indie scene shondo's barbies have the best mindset to be a holo (proven by two of them being there)
>>86767509Well it IS a very different situation when you're a low 3view with a volunteer "manager" and a high 4view with a paid manager.
>>86766938I mean, not wrong. Wasn't pokemane or amoranth who's manager wanted to fuck her?
>>86765590>femcels aren't real.that's true.
>>86767069She vanished for weeks and months. That was her response.>>86767242Oumiya Emma
>>86767684It was just some twitch mod for pokimane
>>86767684since when is it weird for a dude to want to fuck an attractive lady
>>86765709She may be off her meds but she's absolutely right. No dude offers to do all of your annoying work unless he wants to fuck.
>>86765532Unfathomably based. It's not so hard to stop sucking cock for a few years while making bank. If you can't live without sucking dick, then you deserve to be called a whore.
>>86767572Weird thread to discover this in for you but if they are indies you are going to have to make a lot of room in /lig/
>>86767684Her manager was her husband. You're thinking of a chat mod.
>>86767384>>86767539She's talked about this publicly so it's not against the rules before any jannies come after me - but that anon is being dishonest in how he describes it all. She has schizoaffective disorder and has done since she was young - she goes through periods of suicidal depression even now and at one point when she was kid she kept hiding knives in her bedroom because she genuinely thought her family was trying to kill her.
>>86767691I know her I’m just asking about her being “exposed” . Did her dms get leaked or something
>>86766761She's talking about chuubas that lie about having one.
>>86767646I've never watched her but the more I see about her the more I feel like she's just gfe grifter Pippa
>>86767752Girls have a weird idea that men don't want to in these positions, which is the problem.
>>86765008>>86765532>>86765691>>86765709I want Shondo tell me again the story of when she flew out to have her back blown by her boyfriend
>>86767760I don't get why that matters though
>>86765008>retarded schizosCANCELLED
>>86765691Somebody fucking help her!
>>86767783Doki and Mythic are discussed in /lig/ though (and in that new /lig/ split).
>>86767646>INDIE chuubas managers are their boyfriends>If you belong to a chuuba group like 3AM or a corpo they give you a manager, it's not your boyfriend.Why do you struggle with this logic?
>>86767646Independent means Independent. Doki is an indie. Kson is not. It's pretty simple. Filian is not an indie
>>86767752If a lady fucks with you, she'll tell you. She'll be around and she'll make time for you. There's no need to pine after someone hoping they'll change. That's not how things work. So being a mod for someone in the hopes of fucking them is pants-on-head retarded.
>>86767783Retard? Many liggers have managers.
>>86765709holy shit, she dared to tell the truth to her, this woman is super based
>>86767916You missed a lot of logic.>>86767918I never mentioned kson.
Man, she's probably the best English speaking indie I know of. Too bad she's British.
It will be the funniest day on the board when this bitch gets exposed for having a boyf... worse, a manager secretly.
>>86767646I get that there's a worthwhile distinction to be made between small indies and the big indies, but it's kind of autistic because the term "indie" is meant to contrast against fully corpo owned vtubers.
>>86767425Mythic provides boyfriends???!!
>>86768011She literally had one and talked about it. She doesn't anymore, but this is a known fact.
Shondo's so based for this because it's legit so simple. If your in a relationship, don't do GFE and don't lie about not having one if the topic comes up. Easy.
>>86765008RRAT:Her ovaries are SCREAMING
>>86765008A lot of big youtubers/streamers/vtubers have actual managers, but BIG not 3views or 2views. The last thing you want to spend money on as an indie trying to make a living as a streamer is a manager. You don't get 1000000 promo emails, you don't get invited to any events, you're a nobody to have a "manager". If you're going to spend money, spend it on editors or assets to improve your stream and your content creation, not on some retard who checks your emails, and if you have someone like that, he either wants to stick his penis in all your holes or is already doing it, that's the reality
>>86768011? >>86766389
>>86767752it's only weird if the dude is ugly or fat
>>86768095Yeah, for me.
>>86767816https://x.com/nbdykng/status/1799939015455719429
>>86768071>>86768099>a managerThat was the joke.
>>86768088exactly
>>86765691Based shondo
>>86768177............ Are you German anon?
She's calling out pillowdear for being GFE while having a "manager". She also unfollowed her on twitter.This is her manager btwhttps://x.com/FluffP_/status/1841951871298076950
>>86767815>She has schizoaffective disorderI thought she talked about halucinations and shit? As un unironic schizophrenia.
>>86767938Is posted about isn't actually a business classification
>>86768095>RRATThat's for crazy theories, not obvious things.
>>86768292This looks like a real manager though, not just some random friend/mod. Also, this is a woman.
>>86766585proof next thread?
>>86768148Oh shit
>>86768311>I thought she talked about halucinations and shit?Yes that can happen with schizoaffective, it basically just means she has both schizophrenia and bipolar and they are playing off each other.
do you think shondo would tie up fauna and rape her every night if there were no consequences or risk of anybody finding out she was kidnapped
>>86768459Replace Shondo with me, and the answer is yes.
Is the "tell" choosing to call them a "manager"? Like for example I've edited videos for people and help them out with various streaming stuffs before but it's because they are my friends and I know how to do it. (and they credited me)What if they just want to call someone like me a "manager" to sound cool or more established or something.
>>86768391he's probably just going to use clips from times she's said she doesn't have much real relationship experience or know much about them. which is true. she's never outright said she's never been in a relationship though
>>86768292This dude seems like a hardcore 3DPD idolfag and manages multiple tubers. I doubt he's trying to bang pillow.
What did he mean by this
>>86768292That's an actual manager. I understand why you would think that though. Good managers are not heard or seen from. They shut the fuck up and do their jobs.
>>86768311You get hallucinations and paranoia with schizoaffective disorder - it's basically a mix of schizophrenia and bipolar, so there tend to be more periods of depression and mania than full blown hallucinations but she's on some pretty heavy antipsychotics.
>>86766953Whomst
>>86768654asking the real questions
If having a male manager is such an issueIdkHire a female one? Some office lady or shit
>>86768452NVM I mixed up schizotypal with schizoaffective.
Shondo schizos are crazier than Shondo. At least she gets paid, these fags do it for free.
>>86768148Lmao
>>86768654ngl she brought this upon herself
>>86768654wasn't leaked. was some old messages in a public discord chat in a general channel before she was a vtuber. nothing more to it, nothing ever actually happened between them and even if you want to believe the rrats it did, are people supposed to get mad at sexual messages between people in a relationship? complete nothingburger bait. you're probably him though considering that's clearly how you know about it
>>86768654why do we care again what shondo did with the guy in her previous relationship that she disclosed prior to streaming?
Is Shondo the closest to being the femanon of my dreams?
I'm waiting to see where she's wrong.Vtubers should literally just say they're in a relationship when they have a boyfriend. They weren't getting into Hololive anyway and that's the only place where it matters.
>>86768934 (me)by him i mean the guy on twitter that clearly got his info from thread antis for any autists that might misinterpret it
>>86768654This is the same person who one-guyed ERB on Twitter too.
>>86768011Shondo isn't popular enough for the Board to care much about this.
>>86765532Fuck this roastie behavior
>>86769015screencap pls
>>86768980i need to know if my cock was bigger than his
>>86765691Fucking roastie pickme
>>86768755There just aren't a lot of women in the vtuber community that want to stay behind the scenes, they all want to be actual vtubers. Meanwhile there's tons of guys that want to be part of the industry but know being an actual vtuber isn't viable for them so they try to get on with actual talents.
>>86768980Hysterical spergs gotta have a gotcha to hold over her head
>>86768986I guarantee you it affects the bottom line, so it matters.
>>86768071>She doesn't anymoreTotally.
>>86769016But the schizos she has are among the worst ones.
>>86765709>when indies say manager they just mean boyfriend>my manager is not my boyfriend>UHHHHHH DOESNT COUNT HE WANTS TO FUCK YOU YOURE STILL A LYING SLUTscrambling around with those goalposts lol
>>86768654I don't see why it matters. I would understand if she claimed she was a virgin and never had a boyfriend but she doesn't.Anyone that cares about her having a boyfriend in the past has already left her. It's kinda cringe reading out or seeing past stuff but obviously shit like that happens in a relationship. What is this supposed to be some kind of gotcha? I don't understand. Maybe if the leaked screenshots were from last week it would matter. Because of the obvious implications.>I admit to have had a bf in the past.>We have PROOF you talked dirty with your ex in the past!Okay? Post proof that shondo is fucking some guy RIGHT NOW and then I'll agree with you.
>>86769137Hiding it just turns it into a ticking time bomb that can blow up your career at any moment.
>>86767820You couldn't be more wrong.
>>86766389Roastie got spotted in pure daylight
>>86765532holy based
>>86769126They'll just keep lowering the bar too. At some point you realize... It was never about making sense at all... It was just about the drama
She is so insanely right.
>>86765532Unfathomably hypocritical
>>86767646This smells like jealous roastie. Stay poor indie
Why do schizos repeat ad nauseum that Shondo was in a past relationship like it's some gotcha? Despite her talking about it multiple times and not hiding it at all?
>>86769137The bottom line doesn't have to be money if you are indie
Shes not wrong. A 2/3view is not going to have a manager. Maybe the top end 1% of indies would have oneUnless they actively push for people to spam their DM/emails vtubers arent going to get flooded with emails on their business accounts
>>86768654Of course the jealous roastie is also an actual cock loving roastie whore
>>86769362When you don't have much else, you gotta grasp at straws.
BASED BASED BASED ! ! !
>>86769070I don't have one saved anon, he was badgering her about not saying HBD to some other holomem and she responded directly even though his username is Dixon Kuntz and his Twitter is entirely WN memes.
>>86768148This seems like a he said she said type of thing. It's always bullshit when these nobodies try to character assassinate a chuuba for clout, especially since no crime was committed.
>>86765691t. seething roastie
>>86765008I can't believe shondo's boyfriend looks like this
Unless you're a 4view it's literally pointless to have a manager, so if they have one, yes they are their boyfriends or simps working for a very low wage and trying to fuck them.
If Shondo can pick some great holos, then I can pick her. Simple as.
>>86769486What an ugly dog
>>86765532ok based
>>86769166I guess, but they're not even close to the worst.For example, Filian fans are worse.
>>86765709
>>86765691>>86765709is shondo wrong in any way?? I can only see whores feeling called out get mad at this.
>>86769574Anon, that's an owl
>>86769362because they have nothing on her that actually makes sense to be mad about without deliberately ignoring context so they resort to lying or being like the troon in this thread repeating one word and nothing else
>>86766761She's talking about the one that cries the loudest about having a bf despite their content being a bunch of asmr and coombaiting.
>>86769182Anon have you ever seen a fat dude in the friend zone? Theyre exactly the type who volunteer to be these “managers” kek.
Can you believe Fauna was close friends and talked with Shondo on a daily basis?
>>86769663She seems like she's be an entertaining person to talk to, so yeah, I can believe it.
>>86769663Yes, she thinks the same.
>>86768654kekgrifter down
>>86769663How exactly is this supposed to be shocking?
>>86769663She's still friends with her
>>86765590The only people I’ve ever seen complain about “pickme’ girls are bitter single women lol
shondo would be based if it wasn't so obvious she was dating one of her discord mods?
>>86768654Gotcha! How exactly? I refuse to elaborate.
>>86765691It's probably a bunch of indie vtubers that has less than 1k ccv boast about having managers like they're some bigshot corpo vtuber or someone big like dokibird.
>>86769734Don't use my shark wife as a way to bait insults please
>>86769770Name the mod.
>>86769810Me. I'm the mod.
>>86765008Doesn't she literally have a bf lol
>>86769753NTA, not really, if you aren't able to recognize a pickme girl and fall for her tricks, it's probably why you ended up in this hobby, my friend.
>>86769810MeAnd dont namedrop me
>>86769663>was
>>86769626>shondo's boyfriend is mumei
>>86769863Used to and talked about it openly without deception around it.
>>86769863Read the thread before posting.
>>86768654And?
>>86769868>my friendtime to go back redditard
Will Shondo be single forever?
>>86769929>bait thread is full of lazy illiterate niggersimagine my shock
>>86765590>>86769868Seething femoid.
>>86769983Not if I have a say in it
>>86769929Stop being a cuck before acting like that pedo is "based".
>>86769868>hobbyWatching youtube videos isn’t a hobby and I’m not deluded enough to think that dating one of these girls is viable, unlike half this board apparently.
>>86765008Green woman leaving her really did a number on this bitch
>>86769663>was close friendsCatalogfag didn't watch her last birthday stream
>>86770047retarded tourist
>>86769362i don't watch shondo i just threadread
>>86770031Lmao keep seething scorned cuck KEKAROO
>>86769663Is it safe to say fauna has the same values and opinions as shondo?
>>86770031I'm not a shondo fan, just here for entertainment. You should just say you're an anti from the get go though instead of feigning ignorance.
>>86765709wait, I thought bitches paid their manager? In that case it would be purely transactional
>>86770047Those who do OF should be accepted for normal relationships
>>86767342anon, did you have a stroke while typing that?
>>86769753Just because they use it doens't mean it's true. How else would you decribe Just Pearly Things?
>>86770203She's pretty much a professional though with how much she subtly avoids drama.
>>86770203Yes but without the mental illness.
What are the suicide rates of people with schizophrenia now again?
>>86770448Id be more afraid of their murder rates than suicide. Shondo literally almost killed her parents when she was a child.
>>86769983she isn't single now
>>86769663>>86770203A hololive girl associating hateful white alt-right incel pandering pickme? Color me shocked. Fauna has always obviously been a white girl grifter type. Look at how she also associated with Pippa, the quintessential example of this type. Her on-stream personality is so disgustingly saccharine and fake, you could obviously tell she's a frigid bitch behind the scenes. This is why I am wary of any GFE/unicorn pandering streamer.
>>86770430This
>>86770381>>86770430Translation: she is better at hiding the controversial details in her lifeI wonder why Shondo doesn't hate fauna
>>86770448relevance? kys
>>86770203>he hasn't noticed any of fauna's close mask slips or seen how she hides her power level
>>86765008I am now a shondo fan
>>86770565
>>86769663yes, actually
>>86770625Fauna's PL dropping the hard R was the funniest thing I've ever seen
>>86770662>hurr kill yourself my based white nationalist oshi is pureHololive chuds really showing their class
>>86770337>ecelebDon’t know but as a man all I can say is that men are tired of trying to please antagonistic women in this society.
>>86770719proof?
>>86769486The worst part of shondo threads is seeing this wrinkly turd
>>86770719>>86770787Unfortunately, this never happened, as much as I wish it did.
>>86770565>>86770722Please try harder with your bait; you added too many buzzwords for it to be believable.
>>86770719please man take one for the team and post it
>>86765532indescribably based and now you have a free avoid list compiled based on the vtubers that get mad at her
>>86770722YOU FUCKING CHUD!!!!!
>>86770842Now do we have the list of hololive girls(non-JP for obvious reasons) who have most likely or with proof have said the n-word?
>>86770788thats not a picture of fauna KEK
>>86770722there is a reason why she has a lot of /trash/ threads
>>86770755I think you should take some time to consider who actually benefits from men and women being at each others throats. People like Pearl Davis are clear ops.
why does she make w*men seethe so much
>>86765532>>86765691>>86765709She's utterly insane and yet she's not wrong.
>>86771004She tells the truth, and that's not acceptable these days.
>>86770911I think Ame did iirc
>>86765008holy shit lmao
>>86768088I wonder if a chuuba being completely honest when asked about having a bf would see her profit drop considerably, compared to presenting herself as single.My logic is that it definitely would, but maybe I've been on /vt/ for too long.
why did this thread get hijacked by schizos spamming disconnected shit about Fauna
>>86770722
>>86766198Esl board, please understand
>>86769486the real boss here
>>86771094The same people who anti Shondo, also anti Fauna. And you're not allowed to notice that.
>>86771094Whenever a Shondo catalog thread reaches a certain number of replies it'll descend into schizos spamming about how they hate each other - and then when that's disproven they just start attacking them both.
>>86771094>disconnectedFucking cope. They are one in the same. Only one has to hide it because they are a millionaire.
>>86765008Fuwamoco PL manager and Rushia schyzo were right, so i believe your schizo wife
>>86770911Kiara (accidental)Calli (on purpose a million times)Gura (almost said it in a very early stream but stopped herself)Ame (said it on her pl while telling a story about annoying black ppl on the bus)that's all i got.
>>86770911Mori probably has since she was poking around /a/ long long ago. I'd not put it passed Fauna for the same reasons. Gura, Mumei, Nerissa, and Gigi would be on my list of also probably have said it.
>>86770911Im not gonna say which uh hololive girl said it in their PL or anything about it, we know I cant say thatIt was Ame
>>86771094forget boyfriend, holodrones cant even be her friend>As "Fauna" and "saplings", we cannot be friends, or, we should not be friends>I'm sure you've heard the saying don't meet your heroes, I don't think that necessarily applies to everybody, but I think its good if you can just watch streamers and enjoy their streams for what they are>Fauna is mean in real life?>I don't think so, and I think I try to be myself on stream but you know, if we were friends we might have disagreements, who knows>there might be things that you would be like, like maybe, the fact that I made 10 servings of curries and you don't eat leftovers is irreconcilable>Because I want to show you guys only the best side of myself you know>I think that's best, because I don't want to bring your guys moods down, by showing you, like, a non positive side of me, you know>But I think for friends its important to open up, show them more of you if you want to be really close>Anyway, I hope that is okay, I know, I know, don't be sad, cherish your friends because they are just as cool as streamers I promise.>I promise they are>There's nothing particularly special about streamers, I mean like sure maybe there's a streamer and they're great at singing but does that make them a better friend, no, it doesn't>someone can be a great friend even if they aren't great at singing>My friends are cooler than you? I hope so, I hope so>quite a few of my friends are streamers, what do I do? I mean that's an exception.>I mean obviously streamers have friends.>And I'm sure sometimes people have made friends with streamers and it workout out, but you know>Anyway there's my deep talk, I answered it as honestly as I could, I am happy to be here, and entertain you guys and hang out and its fun>yeah exactly, the great part of streaming is interaction.>There's a back and forth which makes it great, the banter.>you just try to make me laugh? You do, you guys type funny stuff all the time.>I think I would've had a harder time being a lets player without having a chat to bounce off of mmm hmm>But, you should always...I know I shouldn't lecture you guys...>It's important for you guys to not neglect your real lives too>Put yourselves #1 always.>I'm just some silly streamer on the internet.>And I will not be happy if you're neglecting yourselves>No you wont? *laughs* You must, you must.>Please take care of yourselves.
>>86771287>AmeAlso almost called someone a nigger in writing mid-game, but deleted it before she finished.
>>86767342I don't know if that's entirely honest. Beyond explicit gfe, sexual attraction and a related type of affection are the bedrock of vtubing. Someone "not doing gfe" is still leveraging the desire,whether overt or reflexive and subconscious, for her to be your girlfriend for a huge majority of her audience, and a male viewers enjoyment of the non sexual aspects of what she's doing is vastly enhanced by that underlying attraction-someone is funnier when you're attracted to them. This stirs up a certain type of affection and appeal-not just horniness. While this isn't quite the right term the closest way to describe it is romantic affection, though that term goes too far, at least at first, yet to say you find it cute doesn't capture the whole thing or register how deep it can go. Finding a girl doing something more engaging and enjoyable than a guy doing the same thing in a way that isn't just being horny. It's horniness lending itself to a qualitatively different kind affection with some of the same mechanisms by which, in a healthy context, people in relationships grow to love each other. The same way parasocial relationships leverage mechanisms that the brain has for the purposes of enjoying real world socialisation, despite it not being the same thing at all.I'm not saying this is the case, I don't know at all, but its possible that the reason she's specifically taken issue with this and made a whole thing of it and started fights on twitter about it, is because the fact that vtubers feel the need to hide that they have boyfriends implicitly says something, says a lot of the above. By implicitly saying that what they do would be spoiled by the awareness they have boyfriends, they are saying that what they do, what she does, is fundamentally about exploiting loneliness and stirring up feelings that are meant to go somewhere that you know won't go anywhere so that you can profit from them,whether just with money or because you enjoy having such a big platform. I'm not saying that's wrong to do, the guys(and some girls) are adults with an onus to look out for themselves if this was a bad thing, but some people maybe would think its kinda wrong to do and not want to really think about how huge a part of the vtuber phenomenon it is if they would be complicit.
>>86771178>>86771229This
>>86765532Honestly based
>>86771081Wasn't Shylilly upfront about living with her bf from the word go?Then you have the unironic sluts like Bao and Cottontail etc. so it's not.like the presence of a man is that off-putting.But if you start gfe then you bring this kinda behaviour onto yourself.
>>86771306>this amount of seetheHoly shit woman, calm the fuck down lmao
>>86766198>They're retarded schizos in the vast majority of cases, but it still annoys me when women obviously lie about their "managers" for no reasonIts pretty close to what she says.
>>86770565Frigid? As in, she can't reproduce and is bitter about it?
>>86771287Fauna literally did a raceplay ASMR lmfao
>>86771255>>86771306>but hololive!!!Rent free
>>86771472faunas melty is legendary, holodrones never recovered
>>86771462Bao gets railed?
>>86771462>Then you have the unironic sluts like Bao and Cottontail etcSome of them still try to play up the "uwu I'm a virgin" schtick even when it's clearly obvious this isn't the case. If anything I hate these types the most, kayfabe is one thing but then there's just insulting the watchers intelligence.
>>86771306Hello brownfeet. How's it going? Still seething at green woman?
>>86770977>who benefitsWhat Jews? Dems? I dunno. I only care about myself, my family and my future wife.
>>86770448Terry...
>>86771523Once again, this never happened, even though that would have been hilarious. Are you the guy who spams /trash/ shit in every thread slightly related to Fauna?
>>86771523
>>86771592If her stories of her rampant actually debilitating goonerism are true there is no fucking way a girl with an ass that big hasn't taken dick.
>>86771306you've only made me like fauna even more you retarded schizo
>>86765161Shondo hasn't lied about that though? It's open knowledge and she herself has admitted she has had a boyfriend, she had dated one of her mods. This isn't secret
>>86771636wtf? LMAOFaunaantis... not like this...
>>86771568I was referring to you, kek
>>86771306I now respect green woman.Ceci has better kayfabe though.
fauna loves going to rap concerts like Tyler the Creator and loves African American culture and musichttps://youtu.be/0eIb3rMX-LQwhite bros... its not looking good
why are lesbians so mentally ill
>>86771731I think there were accounts of people seeing her getting into Ubers with large groups of people to the hotel
>>86765008Shes projectingShe fucked one of her mods so everyone on the planet has to be the same as her
>>86771636I've never seen Canada bux before.They look.like those old toffee paper sweets you could get for ten pence.
>>86771636w-what the fuck am i looking at here?
>>86771306>Completely levelheaded take>This makes anon seethe
>>86772073Brown man in Canada hates Fauna and wanted to prove he had a lot of money. Instead, he posts chump change, a disgusting setup with tons of dust, and his gross feet. And he immortalized what the average Fauna anti looks and acts like.
>>86771967She's American, unless she came from Texas or Ohio then chances are she is into rap.
>>86771967All white kids loved Tyler and OF when they first got popular, white chicks love him even more now that he's gay and does pop music.
>>86771051Makes me feel kind of bad for Shondo if she thinks all relationships are so superficial. "Nobody would help other people unless they wanted something from them" is such a nonsensically cynical take.
>>86772125ok holodroneyou know she secretly thinking the exact same thing as shitdo in OP right
>>86771967I'm relapsing...
Is that true that holofaggots like shondo?
>>86771636How much is that in burgerbux?
>>86772282fauna is her best friendits how anyone with a brain knows shes rotten behind the fake nice personality
>>86772213She's a schizo and has trouble forming relationships in general.Girl needs some real honest help, but good luck when you have no ability to trust people.
>>86771967We already know she's American anon.
>>86771523Cool.Post it.
>>86772282>>86772350don't reply to yourself, your posts already make up half the thread now.
>>86771967>white bros
>>86772213sounds accurate to me
>>86772342It's $290 Canadian or about $210 in American dollars. This was the amount he showed to prove he was "loaded".
>>86771306Oh no she demonstrated abstract reasoning to the point of having a comfortably above average IQ, and also substantial regard for intellectual honesty and the concepts of right and wrong.
>>86772460What's going on in Egypt?
>>86771462>Then you have the unironic sluts like Bao and Cottontail etcthey still make money because theyre as you said 'unironic sluts'. How many here dont know that the alternative to route GFE is heavy coombaiting? All the indies that still profit while hanging out with males pander hard to coomers.
>>86772412All things considered if her stories are true she's far better than she used to be. She isn't sleeping with a knife and thinking her family is trying to kill her like she was at age 8.
>>86772460Fuck is going on in Egypt?
>>86772460SAARS, PLEASE REDEEM THE BLACK COCK
>>86772342Like three dollars
>>86772507>How many here dont know that the alternative to route GFE is heavy coombaiting?There is also zoomermaxxing which is what Filian does.
>>86772501Islam and pre-war cuckold memes.
>>86772645I don't even register Filian as a human let alone female
>>86772461Sounds like a terrible fate anon. Humanity would have never got to where it is today if that kind of nonsense was actually normal.
>>86772213She is unironically used goods. She cannot comprehend relationships that are not transactional
>>86772460
>>86765532Holy Based
>>86772213If here stories of her family are true than it makes sense how she ended up this way.
>>86772213I care about her so I wish she didn't make assumptions and generalizations
>>86772520That is a marked improvement.
>>86772645How would you even describe Neuro though?
>>86772745Sociopathcels' frontal lobes are too damaged to understand how altruism evolved as an evolutionary advantageous trait.
>>86772501>>86772546There isn't even any data for the rest of the continent, that's probably just one guySEA however...
>>86772898Not a person.
How can it be that all the threads end up talking about hololive?
im going to marry shondo irl and get her pregnant with my children repeatedly just thought everyone should know
>>86772898A front for Vedal to fuck a bunch of small indies.
>>86772460Forget Egypt, the fuck is up with Korea? That shit is black as night.
>>86772946HoloboardHolositeHoloworld
>>86772946The mere existence of hololive makes many in SEA mad.
>>86772213But that's correct?You never do something unless there's something in it for yourself. It may not come directly from the person you're helping, but you help others because it makes you feel good, that's still transactional except you're receiving benefit from the fucking ethereal realm which is your brain chemistry
>>86772898Neuro is the side piece to programmer autism. The face that the TTS chatbot meshes with so many streamers makes them all as intelligent as an NPC
>>86772977I made this post. And I'm also Fauna btw.
>>86772213Men and women cannot be "just friends."
>>86771081Being a liar is much worse.My current favorite indie 3view has started bringing up how single, virgin, and poor she is so I think it's safe to assume she has a bf who's rather well-off lol.The moment she started saying that shit when unprompted is when I stopped giving her any kind of monetary support. Just the act of baiting with that shit is off-putting even if it's all true.
>>86773048>I-it's still transactional if you achieve some personal satisfaction from it!That's literally not how that word works anon.
huh didn't know she was used goods
SHONDO I KNOW YOU'RE /here/ RELEASE ALL THE SCHIZO EMAILS WE WANT TO READ THEM TOOSHARING IS CARING
>>86772946Large corpo invades small spaces for more profit.Wake the fuck up anon, we got a board to burn.
>>86765008Shondo is a literal retardwhat else is new?
>>86773060fauna hasnt been her bbf for years, keep up. if she was going to get girlpregnant it would be from oli or nina
>>86772645She does those three things at the same time, don't fool yourself.>>86772898automatic joke making machine
>>86765532is this real?
>>86773158>but semanticsI don't care, the point is still true, you do not help someone unless there is benefit to you
Trust me i love to shit on unicorns and retards that cry about homobegging, but this girl is absolutely right. Its really off putting how much some girls lie about their "managers". You cant trust these girls either, remember moonmoon? he cucked a girls manager, because if a girl can lie about being chat's gf, shes can and will cheat on her so called manager (bf) as well. If you ever see a girl lying about her manager just abandon her, shes likely a liar with no integrity.
POST YOUR LOLI CUNNY SHONDO
>>86773139are you a coomer? because yes they can
>>86773139>And other horseshit retarded anons copy from TV entertainment programsYou can't keep living like this anon. A TV show doesn't represent reality in any capacity. They are dramatised for the sake of entertainment.If you are so enslaved to your own dick that you cannot conceive of being friends with a girl without an immediate desire to fuck them then you're unironically damaged.
>>86772946Hololive board
>>86773214but this place is ours, the indies are the invaders.
>>86773201She has done in the past. One particular guy who was sending her multiple huge essay emails a day oscillating between complaining about things she'd said or done in recent streams but more often attacking fellow members of the fanbase. After asking him to stop for a while she eventually just banned him and blocked him on everything. I'm certain he's one of the ones who appears in every Shondo thread to anti her in various ways.
>>86773378Burn. It. All.So that we can end /corpo/ colonialism forever.With a nuke in Holotower
>>86773274https://x.com/goodgirlshadow/status/1842336828235403500?t=m7HAVo43SEQA-I2DAIh1AQ&s=19
>>86773294>But semantics? Why are you acting like this after trying to start a semantic argument? Are you okay anon? Do you need meds?>you do not help someone unless there is benefit to youOkay? This is still strictly false. There are plenty of examples of people who help others to their own detriment and suffer for it, this whole idea of yours has absolutely no grounding to it beyond believing it for the sake of convenience in defending a juvenile world view.
>>86773473Cringe
>>86773274This rant is only a few hours old, anon.https://twitter.com/goodgirlshadow/status/1842336828235403500
>>86769663Fauna didnt see shondo the same way shondo saw her. Fauna enjoyed her company while shondo was obsessed.I was smart of her to cut all communication with her after she joined hololive. Shondo is too much of a liability. If cecilia is smart, shes done the same.
>>86773139Why do i see this on 4 chan all the time, you can absolutely just be friends with women, maybe this is a you problem since you want to fuck everything that moves. The reason why i am friends with some girls is because we have things in common and are apart of the same communities, but i would absolutely not fuck them and they likely wouldnt fuck me either. I am not into indian girls and most Indians are not into east asians, and on top of that our age gap is too big. Its only from the point of view of an absolute pig that would fuck someone regardless of all factors that they cant be friends.
>>86773139They hated you for saying the truth.
>>86773473Please, you don't have the strength to face us.We are the fire and the atomic bomb, boy.
>>86773548>cut all communication with herhttps://youtu.be/hGcutchEBGk?t=13100
>>86773567you are beta wired
>>86773329>>86773342>>86773567https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5Q4KG1ZtVg
>>86772980Dude really does have a long list of groupies starting with Anny at #1. I bet when he goes to Twitch cons or whatever he swims is pussy juice.
>>86769868pro-tip: guys have a different word they use instead of pick me that literally means the same thing. literally only women use the term pick me
>>86773630I hope you get better one day anon. Being unable to have normal friendly relationships with a good quarter of the populace isn't good for you.
>>86773567You seenearly everyone here hasnt ever talked to a woman let alone fucked onethey are all projecting retards>>86773685>child predatoryea ok bud, you should 100% listen to him
>>86773681If you work in an industry with 90%+ women and you are married you are essentially forced to be friends with some of these women in order to get anything done at all
>>86773685You cannot be serious anon...
>>86773659Token gift from 2 years ago.I constantly hear her say how much she misses lily. Probably because they dont talk anymore
>>86773548As they already told you, they became friends again. But I like your theory, it's erotic and melodramatic. It's a shame it's not real.
>>86773687I'd sooner believe he is genuinely gay. There is not a chance in hell that dude would initiate on a girl or even be receptive to actual flirting without folding like a paper chair.
>>86773685Didnt he just flee the country because the FBI found out he was raping children with P-diddy?
>>867736592 years agoObviously fauna left her to rot. She has too much to protect imagewise
>>86773856I watch shondo touristbro, they do not talk with each other.
>>86773903You do not know how people act in private and offstream.
>>86773685True
>>86773754>>86773823>>86773930Resorting to ad hominem attacks is admitting you lost the argument btw
>>86773329>>86773342>>86773567https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_lh5fR4DMAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_lh5fR4DMAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_lh5fR4DMA
>>86774074this is one of the most reddit coded things ive ever seen posted here
>>86773959It'd be a hell of an act anon. Not impossible, but I see no reason to believe Vedal is very different off-stream especially when literally every girl he collabs with treats him the same way and clueing them all in on the differences between his personas is not bloody likely..
I agree that men and women can't be friends like normal. But I always wonder why this topic is always so heated when it comes up. Some people froth at the mouth about this for some reason.
>>86774074>Resorting to ad hominem attacks is admitting you lost the argument btwIn what way is that actually true, anon? Do you actually mean to tell me you believe someone using a fallacy means they lose the argument? Nobody is that fucking retarded, so why are you trying to deceive to people yet fail to put in the least bit of effort into actually being believable?
>>86774152>Independent Filmmakers Jesse Budd and Patrick Romeroone of those is a unironic cuck now and the other murdered their own child
>>86773685I am sure you posted this as a joke, surely. Because yes there are some situations like this, but not every girl is attractive enough to warrant this, and not every guy is this much of a horny pig to be waiting to pounce at all moments. Why would i be intentionally in the "friendzone" just waiting for sex? That sounds like an absolutely miserable experience, thats why i just keep real friendships and look to fuck women in other settings, you know, like most normal people? Most people dont go around fucking their friends and co workers, and if you do fuck your friends well goddamn thats not your friend buddy, thats either your to be gf, your side piece, the "other girl" you are cheating on your gf with, a sex friend, or a friend with benefits.
>>86774174>suddenly reddityou lost, now go back to okbh
>>86766227She said "indies" with "managers" not indies with managers. Cmon now anon
>>86774074pretty sure the argument is that you shouldnt take relationship advice from an unironic child rapistalso niggers
>>86773496I didn't start a semantic argument, you want to argue about dictionary definitions when that's not in the spirit of what I said.>There are plenty of examples of people who help others to their own detriment and suffer for it, This does not disprove my point at all. People suffer all the time to help others because they believe that is the right thing to do and it makes them happy to do it. That is a benefit to them
>>86774279Its easyGuys who stack no paper and get no bitches, call it sour grapesGuys who have female friends dont want to admit that they want to fuck them. Because they're in denial or because its true
>>86774374To make this clearer, the girls i am friends with are ones i am not sexually attracted to, the ones i am sexually attracted to i actually try to get with, and i am pretty sure 90% of guys are like this, but somehow 4 chan men are sexually attracted to every fucking thing that moves, from a 300lb woman to a girl that smells like shit
>>86773754>>86773930>>86774531>guy breathes air>guy is a predator>therefore only predators breathe airi sure hope you aren't breathing air right now
>>86774539>I didn't start a semantic argument, I merely tried to argue the semantics of transactional relationships>That wasn't in the spirit of what I said, which is also by no means a semantic excuse???>People suffer all the time to help others because they believe that is the right thing to doIf suffering for the sake of others is the "right" thing to do, then it's still not beneficial for them anon. Accepting suffering or loss is not the same as doing something for a "benefit". You're twisting words and concepts out of shape to try and make them fit your asinine belief that everyone has to be, at least rhetorically, self-centered.>And it makes them happyYou made that up when that was never part of the example. Shows you have no actual retort to speak of I suppose.
>>86774620>Topic is human relationships>Guy is a sociopath>This means his "insights" on human relationships should be taken at face value rather than heavily scrutinisedAnon you might just be genuinely retarded.
>>86774592>but somehow 4 chan men are sexually attracted to every fucking thing that moves, from a 300lb woman to a girl that smells like shithalf this board unironically thinks the real world works like their chinese porn cartoons
>>86772213>makes me feel kind of bad for ShondoShe flew out to "visit" her mod. She's scamming people
>>86768654Ok but where are the pics of the boyfriend's cock size
>>86774620I'm not going to listen and ascertain wherever a guy with those credentials has a healthy understanding of relationships.you can scream ad hominem all you want, but filtering people with negative credentials stops me from wasting my time.
>>86774341And?
>>86775104Ya i feel like i lose braincells everytime i listen to them talk about women, but then i remember i have an autistic friend that is just like half this board and he too is always crying about women despite the fact that his family is rich and hed get bitches easily if he wasnt dumb as a brick
>>86775138I hope you're not actually trying to suggest empathy should be transactional anon.
>>86774807>If suffering for the sake of others is the "right" thing to do, then it's still not beneficial for them anonIt literally is because the act of not doing the right thing causes mental anguish which is painful.>Accepting suffering or loss is not the same as doing something for a "benefit"That's not the statement that was made>You're twisting words and concepts out of shape to try and make them fit your asinine belief that everyone has to be, at least rhetorically, self-centered.You have yet to actually prove the point incorrect>You made that up when that was never part of the example.So why do people do things which make them suffer when they could choose not to do it then?
>>86773306That whole situation was so funny. And her manager wasn't just her bf but her actual husband from 15 years and she cheated on him with that Moonmoon guy that is fat and bald and look like a pedophile. But then again many girls get wet for Asmongoloid, such a disgusting and filthy human being. A dude that bleeds from his infected gums because he don't even brush his teeth and then cleanups the blood on the walls... But money and clout are 2 things incredibly enticing to women and for it they are able to stomach practically anything. I bet they would even lick his anus right after taking a shit too... Holy fuck women can be so gross and nasty for money and clout.
>>86771462Shylily when she debuted her proper model that got drama with veibae, she started keeping her mouth shut and NEVER mentioned having a bf or anything like that again.So she WAS honest until she realized she could make more money keeping her mouth shut. She never said she was single or a virgin HOWEVER. She has said on a couple of occasions that she doesn't get much dick and similar things which is a lie.
>>86772213No one just mods or is a manager for free, usually its for perks. Mods get to work more closely with their oshi and they get to talk to them more. Manager is something even closer and more time consuming, people usually dont do this for free. Its more of the exception than a rule that someone is going to just do this from the kindness of their heart. Lets use an example, you see charities how they are raising money? Well they arent just doing this for completely free, charity events and charitable organizations typically pay their workers, this is the norm, not the exception, the exception is no one being paid at all. You see people need to feed themselves at the end of the day, if they are doing manager work what need is being taken care of if not monetary? Their mental is likely the incentive of this, and in most cases its a relationship akin to a BF. This is why you have so many cases of scorned mods and managers coming out calling out girls for cheating on them, because in their mind they were the girls BFs, and they likely had a close enough relationship to warrant this, but because relationships are not contracts the girl can just say well we were never dating, those kisses and cuddles and potentially sex? nah he was just a friend.
>>86775686its TECHNICALLY not a lie if her bf is too busy to fuck her on the regular, thats how they get you, partial truths and partial lies
>>86775889A lie of omission is still a lie.
fellas, is it gay to hire a manager?
>>86775591>It literally is because the act of not doing the right thing causes mental anguish which is painful.Now you're trying to argue that not suffering is itself a benefit. What are you going to try next? If you do things for others you need to be alive and being alive is a benefit so you always benefit if doing things for others? Come off it kid, you're being ridiculous.>That's not the statement that was madeWhy are you lying now? What's even the point? Why are you dismissing the argument on that ground in the first place instead of actually earnestly engaging with it? Even if it wasn't made as you claim, why does that matter?>You have yet to actually prove the point incorrectIt's almost as though the discussion is ongoing? You're using the fact that the argument is inconclusive to try and dismiss the concept itself? You're a joke.>So why do people do things which make them suffer when they could choose not to do it then?? Why are you pretending to be retarded? Are you seriously asking me this? Are you seriously telling me you cannot even conceptualise an answer to this question at all? because not everyone is selfish you dense cretin, not everyone knows how to choose the things that benefit them over the things that don't, or have the ability to even if they ARE capable of telling the difference
>>86776146No but you likely dont need one if youre a male vtuber, waste of money, and you aint getting a free manager like many girls do
>>86775761Next you'll try and tell me no one makes fanart for free. Come off it lad, people aren't actually this laughably vapid, that's just you.
>>86776196>]because not everyone is selfish you dense cretin, not everyone knows how to choose the things that benefit them over the things that don't, or have the ability to even if they ARE capable of telling the differenceWhy are you now removing agency from human beings to suit your point? Whether or not someone is conscious of the benefit they are receiving from a good deed doesn't remove that from the equation of subconscious choice
