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One final fuck you.

Pekora's cold chicken.

>>86948128
What's the message of Joker 2? Spoil it for me, I'll probably never watch it.

Fuck you all for not making Furiosa a success, only movie of this year to deserve it

>i haven't watched the first one
of course lmao, it came out before her pick me grift started.

>>86948234
get raped and kill yourself incel
unironically that is the message

>>86948337
Who got raped in the movie?

>>86948420
joker gets raped in the ass by prison guards

>>86948450
I see

doesn't jokaire get a girlfriend in the 2nd movie
not my hero

Is this really a big deal? It’s just a movie.

>>86948337
That's pretty based tho

>>86948234
The director hated that people identified and liked Arthur Fleck (the Joker) in the first film. After causing trouble with Harley Quinn and his friends in the asylum, Fleck sees his friend get killed by the guards and then he gets raped by those same guards. He then goes to court and gives up being the Joker and says he's sorry. They take Fleck back to the asylum where another inmate kills him and carves a smile in his own face, meaning he's the real Joker. Also the sequel was a musical

>>86948327
An angry woman isn't compelling.

Every one of us who watches Pippa has gradually come to the conclusion that she's quite stupid so we don't really give much weight to her opinions.

>>86948489
Systematic destruction of enemy culture any time they manage to scrounge together a coherent ideology has been a method of warfare for time immemorial.

I fuckin hate pippa but shes right. Retards that wanted a sequel are dumb af anyways, this was the only way tp progress the story.

>>86948554
Nobody wanted a sequel. They just made it.

>>86948152
>she replied 2 emojis to a male
>shits his pants over it for over 2 weeks now
What is this mental illness?

>>86948554
You are doubly stupid for both hating Pippa and thinking there needed to be a sequel.

>>86948128
This post is already fucking funny by itself because she is a woman and of course missed the point, but adding to the fact that she erps as the incel princess makes it even better.

>a twitter screenshot thread getting mad at Pippa for watching a movie
Who is deflecting today? Holofags? Kawaiifags?

>>86948504
That's pretty funny but I was laughing my ass off at the first one too

>>86948128
i don't trust anyone who thinks current year content coming out of the US is amazing. the good writers and artists were all pushed out years ago. "there's no wrong message in art". except this isn't art, it's state propaganda.

>>86948607
Damn a pippa fan cant fucking read, what a suprise

>>86948128
>>86948609
I'll give Pippa a pass on this one because she's clearly coming at this from a very different perspective than we would. She sees a bit of her own life in the rise and fall of the joker, makes sense. The movie is still hateful, unnecessary slop but "death of the author" and all that.

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>>86948478
define "girlfriend"

>>86948504
I thought you were kidding but it's real, what the fuck

>>86948583
NTA but I find it more funny that she didnt even bother giving him a proper reply kek

>>86948697
>bitch that didn't even watch the first movie
No, pippafag she doesn't get a pass here.

>>86948697
I actually and genuinely think she's just turned on by the gay rape because she's a sadist. This movie is misery porn to her. It's nothing deeper than that.

Lmao incels are so dumb and gay

>entire point if the first movie is that arthur fleck is a mentally ill and scarred man that has been left to rot by society; he is mocked and misunderstood by literally everyone, seen as less than human and used and discarded by all those around him
>finally breaks and does something rash to gain a small amount of power and control back to his meaningless life
>in the second movie life continues to fuck him as arthur continues to just want to be left alone but his rash actions have ensured that will never happen
>incels are surprised that the mentally ill weakling doesnt rise tf up to slay stacey and chad

>>86948856
Wrong tab?

>>86948152
That and not the immediate return?

>>86948450
By itself that's not even an issue. The first movie was also about the fact that the guy was mindbroken by his mental illness and the way people treated him. But instead of his suffering getting worse also worsening his mental condition now it suddenly got better. He got raped and then got better, or the notion seems to be that he was never mentally ill in the first place, which undoes the entirety of the first movie being about "hey maybe if we stop treating mentally ill people like absolute trash they won't flip out like this".

Nah dog, just rape people and they get better :^) The tone is also not "wow holy fuck these conditions are absolutely abhorrent and no human being should be exposed to them no matter what they did" and more toward "lol get raped and murdered haha".

>>86948777
Yeah I bet she got off to it.

>>86948128
I'm trying to be a vtuber.

Hook me up with some paid vtuber model that is a Fire Emblem esque male and not a fucking shota vampire. I want to vtube. I will amsk slip constantly and give you all so much content being a miserable evil minded fucker. Just give me a fucking vtuber model. For like 35 dollars or 100. I saw the vamprie shota ones they ere like 3500 yen. Hook me up. I asked in "aspiring vtubers" thread and they were gay fucking retards refusing to help me. Sorry if I sound like an asshole or miserable but I was literally as nice as could be in that thread and they told me to go fuck myself.

So hook me up with those vtuber models that cost reasonable amounts and I'll be the most evil mask off vtuber imaginable. You'll LOVE my unhinged rants.

does she actually think this or is this a shitpost? if it's a shitpost it's actually pretty good. if it's unironic it's still funny in a 'she's actually fucking retarded' kind of way.

>>86948504
Honestly, it's not a bad message to all those who think they're the Jokers of society, when in reality they're the 'I'm da Jokah, baby' guys.
We like to think of ourselves as dangerous, but if you ever met a real bad guy, you would know.

>>86948955
Wait, so rape correction works?

>>86949010
>it's not a bad message to all those who think they're the Jokers of society, when in reality they're the 'I'm da Jokah, baby' guys.
I am actually the Joker of society and will behave and give takes in a way respective of that.

>>86948859
You'd have a point if that's what the movie was about or ended in a meaningful way that engages with that narrative. But it never actually rises to that, it's just torture porn where a guy is broken down and killed and the way people treat fleck is basically glorified. Not going to pretend it should have had some magical happy ending but this was just
>Man is miserable and abused
>Breaks down and people get hurt
>Man is miserable and abused more
>Dies
Wow. Great.

>>86949064
For men, apparently. I really don't want to get dragged into MRA idiocy but I would love to see this same movie with a female protagonist. The meltdowns would be legendary.

>>86948128
It was always known that she is spoiled furry from rich house. No, she is not femcel from trailer park trash family. She is menhera hipster that fucks male fleshtubers

>>86948128
I wonder if Pippa watch herself as joker or if she watch her fans as joker

>>86948128
>jews flush 200+ gorillions down the drain to own le chuderinos
lol
lmao
rent free

to be honest I can't wait for pippa to hit the peak of her idubbz arc, its definitely started, just wondering where people will be like "jesus fucking christ who is this person"

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>>86948152
>two emoji to an holostar, when she NEVER ignored them
>not scheduling her indie redebut literally 2 hours after her graduation stream

>>86948543
I wanna plappa her plapkins

>>86948128
jezas

>>86948128
lolcow take

>>86949255
Anon. Speak English you blubbering mess.

>>86949269
This can't be real.

>>86949274
>indie redebut
Lol what?

>>86949317
What part about it gives you that impression? The right/political side of youtube will lap up literally anything and everything and shower you with attention if you pretend to agree with them, they are ridiculously gullible.

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>>86949340
She debuting next week as a train driver rat

>>86949010
your daddy taught you that every night did't he

>>86948664
State propaganda can be art though

>>86949313
Pippa has been changing alot recently, and at some point there will be a peak of unrecognizability in comparison to the way she presented herself before.

Personally I think that after 1-2 years, maybe less, most vtubers settle into their personality, you'll hear alot less cutesy anime girl voice etc. Vtubers who change drastically after this point is usually a sign of some abnormality

>>86949377
How the fuck she is allowed to do vtubing if she affiliated to Hololive?

>>86949388
This always happens, and vtuber fans never learn. When you become somewhat successful, you need to mind what you say to attract sponsors. This is not rocket science, even if you are part of a corpo, indie or whatever the fuck VShojo is, you have to bow to sponsors.

>>86949099
Pure kino

>>86949456
There are current active vtubers in hololive who do Live2D vtubing. This is not nijisanji where you have to stop doing any kind of streams on your PL.

>>86949470
it feels like she's gaslighting herself into being "better" to avoid the cognitive dissonance of self censoring to appease the sponsors/company.

>>86949522
She just wants to get paid, nothing more to it. And Sakana surely doesnt mind that she's becoming more advertiser friendly.

>>86949355
No, that I know. I just thought it was insane for her to be recommending people to lean into that, knowing her own fanbase.

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>>86949456
She's partially graduated.

>>86949522
Anon you think vtubing is some lifestyle of art form? It's a fucking job. Any performer worth a damn will adapt to their audience to a degree.

>>86948128
>I haven't watched the first one
Imagine typing that and not having a single moment of self criticism to realize your opinions on the direct sequel and any messages it might have are therefore worthless.

Her voice is just insufferable now in its tone and demeanor.

>>86949795
>Give context to your opinion
>"Aha this means you don't meet my arbitrary standards and thus I don't think your opinion is worth anything!"
Cool story dog, put it in your blog.

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>>86948234
Didn't really have one. I watched the hand cam. No rape btw. The cinematography was pretty bad and they made some major coninuity mistakes by trying to insert Heath Ledger becoming the new Joker by killing Fleck at the end and cutting the smile in his own face with the same mouth. They dropped the ball with Harley Quin because the studio is too afraid to show a whamen getting abused and manipulated in 2024. 90s Harley Quin is never coming back, all we get now is female deadpool. It's just nonsense that the director thought could be called art. It's completely forgettable. No memorable scenes or character moments.

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>>86948732
sure

>>86949798
But enough about Kiara

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>>86949820
Sorry it's late. I meant continuity, and with the same knife.

Ah! The mind of a woman

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>>86949064
>you can rape the joker out of people
imagine that

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>>86948128
>I haven't watched the first one though
Stopped reading there. Who the fuck skips to the sequel and then expects people to give a shit about their opinion?

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>>86949891
>Rape them straight
That only works on women.
Believe me, I've tried.

>>86949891
its funny because it actually doesnt count in this case because the retards pulled a mcu mandarin in the end
>he wasnt actually the joker but someone who was pretending to be one and the real joker was the one that killed him
same thing with gaga harley quinn

>>86949064
>Has sex
>Stops being incels
Funny how that works

>>86949912
>You cant just a work by its own merits you need to know all the everythings!!!!
Imagine being this much of a simpleton. Just accept the fact that the work is being judged on its own and take that for what it is instead of immediately going "Aha! I found the laziest excuse to dismiss what you're saying lmaoaooooo"

>>86948128
grifting grifta stopped grifting

>>86949946
This is the third time you've posted this in 3 separate threads

>>86949960
Are you stupid? What kind of moron watches the sequel to a movie before watching the original in the first place?

>>86949456
The safe assumption is that the only real restrictive clause in her new contract would be never seeing her in Vshojo but indie vtubing is fair game.

>>86949960
The movie sucked dumbfuck. Just like everything else out of Hollywood for the past 15 years

>>86949998
>Urrrr I uhhhh cannot understand what anon is saying, I might be retarded but NO! It is he who is stupid!
Bruh. If you cannot even apply basic literacy what the fuck are you doing talking shit about other people's opinions? Again, just accept the fact that their opinion is based on the second movie in isolation. If you believe such a perspective has no merit then move on with your life instead of sperging out about it like some fucking retard that cannot imagine the merits of anything beyond his own narrow views.

>>86949960
I shot 3 black men
>you are going to jai-
Who were walking towards me
>Free to go Florida man!


The first part of any sequel matters, anon.

>>86950062
>Bruh
Rope. Now.

>>86948128
Why would you watch Joker 2 if you haven't seen the first one

>>86950062
you can only do that in long series movies like fast and furious since it's so long that it doesn't even matter what happens in between the first and 10th movie, but if it's just two parts you really gotta watch the first one for your argument to hold any water

>>86949820
Almost like the entire reason the first film was good was because it didn't hinge on it's supposid superhero/supervillain trappings. What made it good was that it was a sort if psycholoical thriller where you got to see a person who fell through the cracks of 'society' snap after getting fucked over left and right in many ways.
How the fuck could a director or studio not see why people liked the first one so much? Is it really that hard to understand, or do they just want to beat retarded messages into people with popular titles?

>>86950014
>The movie sucked
I agree, but that doesn't mean people can't find enjoyment in it. The Room also objectively sucks and yet has plenty of people who enjoy it, and their reasons why can be interesting, no point in trying to just screech at them because "movie bad".

Joker 2 imo sits comfortably in the new meta of "evil" media where objectively bad actions and outcomes are being glorified and presented as justified or worse, something to cheer for, like The Acolyte. It has some good ideas that can work with what the first movie (which was also really fucking bad don't even try to argue otherwise) tried to present but decided to kill off the main character instead of completing the story in a way that works.
>Mentally ill faggot gets no help and is constantly trashed
>Goes ballistic and does something terrible
>Instead of being corrected and/or helped he gets encouragement and positive reinforcement which makes it all worse
>-Sequel-
>Mentally ill faggot gets no help and is constantly trashed
>Gets tormented more and more and he comes to understand that the path he's on has no future, the story basically forgets he was genuinely mentally ill
>with no reason or cause basically fixes himself just because he was abused enough
>His fans turn on him because he was never more than an outlet of their own fucked up fantasies
>The one proper thing he does in distancing himself from the Joker persona and taking a step toward any kind of recovery ends in his death, rather than a confrontation with/acknowledgement of the message of the first movie and showing the start of finding help for this sad fuck
It's a really shit movie that I can't defend even with my best efforts, but at least it's good torture porn for people who are into just watching people/characters suffer for no real purpose narratively or otherwise. The whole duology can be summed up as "mentally ill person gets abused, goes berserk, stops being mentally ill and dies" Wow. What a fucking story.

>>86948128
It's kinda sad how Phase girls constantly have to walk on eggshells in order to not trigger their racist schizophrenic audience who will immediately cancel them at any opportunity but at the same time it's their own fault for catering to those kind of people.

>>86948856
tl;dr please I don't care enough about Shiina to read all of this.

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>>86950296
I am NOT reading all that

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>>86948128
>I haven't watched the first one
then your opinion doesn't mean shit. why are women like this?

>>86948504
That is... so bad, I'm fucking stun locked.

>>86949269
Pretty shitty of Pippa to sabotage new vtubers like this.

>>86948337
I'm still in disbelief that that sentence sums up the plot of the movie.

>>86950309
Some of them don't have to do it because they share the general Phase fanbase's awful views. Shiina being very right-leaning comes to mind.

>>86948707
friend who is a girl
that is allegedly how it works

>>86950296
>Goes ballistic and does something terrible
he was fixing the world

>>86950296
>Let me take this single example with very specific reasons as to why people like it and apply it to Hollywood made films
Eat shit you fucking retard.

>>86948732
Maybe they were especifically banned from talking to holostars en, and using emojis was sort of a way of protest, using a technicality to interact with them

>>86948234
jew guy gets raped by a bunch of white guys then kills himself, reason behind it all ; a woman.

>>86950352
>why are women like this?
it's the usual pick me behaviour...

>>86950632
herb looks pretty free to me

>>86950547
>Blawhahfghahg
Anon can you at least try and write something coherent? What the fuck do you mean "apply it to Hollywood made films"? Use your fucking words you demented spastic.

>>86950062
Fuck off Pippa.

>>86949960
>accept the work being judged as it is
It's fair to do so. I'll even go as far as saying that judgement can be made of just random shots of the movie. However, normal people if being asked "how's the movie" won't reply with "oh, the shots 32678 and 11 are peak fire, 9/10". Same applies for sequels. You would expect evaluation in regard of the fisrt movie.

>>86950749
Sure, you might expect it, which is WHY it's established to not be the case. I have no fucking clue why people sperg out about it when it's established way in advance or feel the need to spell out "well then I don't care about it" as if it's some deep insight or meaningful observation. Yea just move the fuck along, it's clearly not for you then dumbass.

>>86948128
Pippa has notoriously awful taste in all forms of media. Pick any franchise and she'll always like the worst iteration of it

>>86950749
>normal people
where do you think you are?

>>86949269
>people watch v-tubing/anime related to get away from real world stuff and drama
>let's bring that in anyway
Why are they like this?

>>86950717
The Room and its circumstances and creation will NEVER be comparable to a Hollywood made sequal. Trying to equate them with 'People like bad things for reasons' is completely retarded'.

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>As "Fauna" and "saplings", we cannot be friends, or, we should not be friends

>I'm sure you've heard the saying don't meet your heroes, I don't think that necessarily applies to everybody, but I think its good if you can just watch streamers and enjoy their streams for what they are

>Fauna is mean in real life?
>I don't think so, and I think I try to be myself on stream but you know, if we were friends we might have disagreements, who knows
>there might be things that you would be like, like maybe, the fact that I made 10 servings of curries and you don't eat leftovers is irreconcilable
>Because I want to show you guys only the best side of myself you know
>I think that's best, because I don't want to bring your guys moods down, by showing you, like, a non positive side of me, you know

>But I think for friends its important to open up, show them more of you if you want to be really close
>Anyway, I hope that is okay, I know, I know, don't be sad, cherish your friends because they are just as cool as streamers I promise.
>I promise they are

>There's nothing particularly special about streamers, I mean like sure maybe there's a streamer and they're great at singing but does that make them a better friend, no, it doesn't
>someone can be a great friend even if they aren't great at singing

>My friends are cooler than you? I hope so, I hope so
>quite a few of my friends are streamers, what do I do? I mean that's an exception.

>I mean obviously streamers have friends.
>And I'm sure sometimes people have made friends with streamers and it workout out, but you know

>Anyway there's my deep talk, I answered it as honestly as I could, I am happy to be here, and entertain you guys and hang out and its fun

>yeah exactly, the great part of streaming is interaction.
>There's a back and forth which makes it great, the banter.
>you just try to make me laugh? You do, you guys type funny stuff all the time.

>I think I would've had a harder time being a lets player without having a chat to bounce off of mmm hmm
>But, you should always...I know I shouldn't lecture you guys...
>It's important for you guys to not neglect your real lives too

>Put yourselves #1 always.
>I'm just some silly streamer on the internet.
>And I will not be happy if you're neglecting yourselves
>No you wont? *laughs* You must, you must.
>Please take care of yourselves.

>>86949960
It is absolutely fine to judge Joker 2 on its own, your judgement is just entirely worthless since the entire cultural relevance of Joker 2 is how it reframes and desecrates the original. You can't actually understand any of the context of the movie without the previous one so your opinion is only valid to other people who haven't watched the first one.

>>86950296
>>His fans turn on him because he was never more than an outlet of their own fucked up fantasies
Seems like that point hit too close for some people and caused a melty in /vt/. Lol.

>>86948504
Wait really?

>>86950781
The movie wasn't for her just as much as her review isn't for anyone.

>>86950865
>this obvious common sense take made /vt/rannies lose their shit
kek

>>86949510
Aren't they just png's tho?

>>86949010
There are no dangerous people in first-world societies, you do realize all those super scary school shooters and other mass murderers are the timid Arthur Fleck's you are mocking and not Joker's, right? If you wanted the modern Joker equivalent it would be more like a jihadi who randomly beheads someone or a schizo cannibalizing their grandma. Those people don't need a Joker movie to get bad messages, the messages are coming from inside the house.

>>86949274
>when she never ignored them

Uhh anon, have you been living under a rock this past year?

>>86950826
>I am so fucking retarded I think an example is an equation
Jesus fuck anon, never EVER speak again.

>>86950934
>The cultural relevance I only care about people in similar circumstances to me!
Fuck off.
>You can't actually understand any of the context of the movie without the previous one
So?
>your opinion is only valid to other people who haven't watched the first one.
And? You're just stating plain facts without any meaning to them. No shit such a take only really affects those that don't give a fuck about "muh cultural relevance of a Hollywood sloppa movie" thanks for sharing with the class Captain Obvious, please make more threads about it because wowiezowie we needed to all know this!

>>86948630
Kawaii is doing a mass announcement tomorrow with black-on-white text thumbnails, so you were on the money with that.

Considering the level of movies nowadays everyone is free to have opinions for shit subjects. The Joker was a boring as fuck movie with a le edgy pay off. The whole thing was designed to be baba's entry to watching a drama movie using comic material as the bait.

>>86948504
So he gets raped and becomes sane. Let’s me wonder where the director was on Epstein’s list if this is the message.

>>86948128
The mask slipped off for ecery single chuuba that cried after Rushia fucked off. They knew, approved and feared their secret will be uncovered next.

>>86948128
pippa is a fucking idiot. like genuine high school drop out mental case with no life/work experience
I don’t care about whether her opinions align with the majority for some clown movies, I already know her brain is mushy. Hjonk

>>86951234
>Actually my example has no correlation to the discussion, I just wanted to say it!
You're fucking retarded.

>>86951039
If a message cuts too deep, they'll freak out.

>>86951575
>correlation is the same as equation!
You're not improving retard. Stop talking.

>>86948859
You are just saying it’s a shit second movie, which is what the thread is about. Where’s the point?

>>86948128
>I haven't watched the first one
Opinion discarded

>>86951728
I wouldn't blame her the first one was also shit.

>>86948128
what mask

>>86951299
You're literally patrolling a thread to simp for a Hollywood movie because some e-girl said she liked it.

>>86951948
>I made up this weird-ass fantasy about you and now I'll act as though it's worth something!
How do you even get as deranged as this and not realize?

>>86952169
Have sex.

>fujo gives the movie an inflated review because there's male rape in it

>>86952213
Yes yes, cope, seethe, reddit spacing, summerfag, and you mad bro. Do you have any more to add?

>>86950429
I never got that impression from her when I watched a few of her streams like 1 year ago, is this recent?

i have no idea what the joker 2 is so im going to /tv/ to get an even worse opinion

>>86952555
I mean she did a burger king crown bit, also made a joke of her stream elements thing saying nig****. Typically things that would make redditors seethe etc. Haven't quite gotten her opinons on taxes yet

>>86952269
This, phasefags always forget that their girls absolutely love gay shit because most of them don't actually watch streams.

>>86952604
Everyone hates taxes anon, it's just that sane people hate shitting in the streets even more.

>>86948337
Well at least that way you stop being an incel

>>86948337
You know what, I kneel to that director. There's a point where the hatred for your audience is so strong that it stops being off-putting and it just leaves me staring in awe at his hatred.

>>86948504
>learns his place by getting raped
there it is
i'm telling ya, no one hates women more than male feminists

>>86949573
that screenshot is like 3 years old, her fanbase wasn't that bad back then

What the fuck is going on in movies nowadays where they're having iconic characters get raped and stop being evil?
People shit on Japan for having weird shit, meanwhile this is happening in America

>>86948128
She clearly sees herself in Arthur as someone that unwittingly became the champion of a cause he didn't have his whole heart behind and then was abandoned and scorned by the people that supported him and also as a rape victim

>>86948128
Shondos recent 'im a stinky femcel' revealed to be fake when she had to sit her simps down and tell them she'd been fucking her mod on the side

"Keep donating though my precious husbands!"

Grim.

>>86948128
happens pretty rarely but it's so funny when it does
glad I sticked with Shonshon and not with these SEApandering twitterinos

>>86954063
Is she seriously so clean that all you can do is lie

>>86954142
Where's the lie? She admitted it on stream

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>>86953892


It's purposeful demoralization. What can you say? These people aren't in it for money, they're in it to ruin things. The only thing they hate more than themselves is everyone else around them. A cosmic murder-suicide where they die and take all life with them is their deepest subconscious wish.
Contemplate how this civilization ended up in this situation.

why are holokeks like this?

>>86953892
This was a very popular character among right leaning people so they're destroying it to demoralize those people.
It was written and directed by the same people so it was either their own decision or they were influenced into radically changing the tone of the film.

>>86954063
https://youtu.be/LGXrELL9wUc
stay mad

>>86948955
sounds based
but i'm sure it sucks anyway

>>86948128
>slip off
Why is the "s" so hard for ESL's to understand?

>>86954303
I really want to go back to 2012, man.

So many people defending Pippa on vt. You love to see it.

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>>86948420
*trigger warning*
here is the rape scene

>>86954303
>you may think I'm overly dramatizing this. I'm not.
Well. Okay then.

Lmao.

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Pippa has been mask off for years already at this point and only willful retards don't realize it.

But it's okay, Jerry Chudshiumi is better anyway.

>>86948128
The way she describes it makes the film sound good. Feels like the only bad part of the film is that it's supposedly capeshit when it's obviously just an original script reworked into capeshit.

>>86954841
>Attacking retards is defending Pippa
Probably the most senseless take in the whole thread anon, congratulations.

>>86954841
>on vt

Fucking phase ain't buying the best that for sure, now buy an ad instead and fuck off newfag

>>86954303
fassnating.. it's like if /r9k/ went through puberty and someone touched its willy thus encompassing their only human connection.

>>86954303
Satanic demoralization and perversion warps people in a way that is hard to even imagine. Hollywood is doing more than breaking these people they are spiritually destroying them. The combination of porn and 24/7 hate propaganda is demonic.

>>86954860
BATMAN FOREVER
IT SUCKED BACK THEN
AND IT SUCKS FOREVER

>>86955016
It's a pretty reasonable take on the film all things considered, though I'd say it still fails in its execution where Fleck goes from legitimately insane to "lol I was faking it" which is an incredibly shitty way to portray mental illness and its consequences, especially when the movie never really grapples with what it just did and just goes "and then he dies lol"

It's kind of just a whole mess of "wow things sure are fucked up aren't they??" It's pretending to be something like American History X or Shawshank Redemption without the actual heartfelt message of solidarity and growing out of that terrible shite. "It's all fake, you're miserable and alone and will die that way after all your suffering.". Great if you're into depicting suffering pornographically though, so if that was the intent it did a decent job of it.

>>86948504
Sounds like a pretty standard message I've seen before and you'll see in a lot of in upcoming woke media, especially as the tides rapidly turn. hey chuds you think you're being funny by larping as a racist fascist joker but the evil you unleash is bigger than you and it won't stop even after it takes over and kills you. There's an element of truth to the finger wagging but it's such basic twitter tier culture war propaganda it becomes repulsive and dated, not like I expected much since the first mediocre film had shitty writing that was hard carried the the main actor

>>86954841
I'm not defending her, I just don't like Phasefags and these retards attack her every few weeks everytime her opinions don't perfectly match with theirs.

>>86948420
>>86948337
>>86948234
all right, so, bs aside, do I take it that the "message" is a "fuck you" to the alt-right, because they liked the character too much?
is that what I'm supposed to take away form this? am I missing something?

>>86948777
>I actually and genuinely think she's just turned on by the gay rape because she's a sadist. This movie is misery porn to her. It's nothing deeper than that.
kek, probably true
shes a furry into weird swinger shit and anime gore porn, i bet you hit the nail on the head, she loved the misery, its just a small slip on her "le based" grift, when shes probably closest to people like vaush or destiny believes wise

>>86948583
it's schizo behavior even for unicorn standards. even jp holos send their fans messages and emojis all the time and thank them for participating and supporting them

>>86955271
Nah. That's just what snowflakes (yes, unironically) are loudly whining about, because the movie calls them out on their bullshit, the moment the joker stops conforming to their views they all drop him like a sack of cold shite, both his fans in the movie and his fans in the audience.

It's still a pretty shit movie for how they get to that point, and how they wrap up afterward though, but the core message seems to just be "sperging out gets you nowhere"

Joker 2 was dogshit but if it's making phasefaggots seethe, based lmao

>>86948128
>This film is about me, it's so profound
Meanwhile the nerds getting angry were thinking the exact same thing, all annoying narcissistic autists

>>86949815
>Cool story dog, put it in your blog.
her reasoning is shit
if you review a direct sequel, advertised as a sequel, from same director and actors you cant act shocked when people see it as that

still, more worrying is her pretending to not know what the drama is about, like the movie is a complete critical and commercial failure after the first one made a billion $ and reviewed well, this isnt an opinion, this isnt an interpretation, its a fucking fact
even if she wasnt to ignore the politics of the thing, she cant deny fucking reality of its release with a straight face, i guess she can, and she can look like delusional leftist twat

>>86954860
AVGN was ahead of its time.

>>86950309
thats the problem with being a grifter, you cant keep your bullshit straight
you dont see lumi or tenma give a fuck about saying anything edge, since they dont claim to be someone they arent
if you break kayfabe be honest, otherwise you end up annoying people with your lies

still they have it better than holo chicks, they wont get graduating for jabbing, people like gura dont take breaks since they are lazy, they just cant keep up with the pressure

>>86954860
Based

>>86948128
it's the last jedi all over again

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kek

>>86950309
Pippa having arguments with her audience is nothing new, she does it all the time.

>>86948152
I wonder if they gonna collab in her new life since now she'll be freeeeeeeeeeeeeee like a bird.

>>86948128
>mask slip
>its just them saying they like a movie
this is retarded even for bait

>>86955875
Don't tell me Pippa thought Last Jedi was good too... I have my limits. This is an instant block and delete. Might even turn into an anti.

>>86956217
Pippa antis aren't really known for their intelligence.

>>86951039
I'm more amazed how babski managed to bait Kronii, Fauna and IRyS to make statements that their antis would hold up against them for years

>>86955344
Women are the biggest fags in media, they purposely ruin good characters to fit their fantasy.
Yaoi to them is the exact same as Yuri to us.

>>86956217
It's not just any movie but a culture war movie of which she didn't even watch the first one, which only makes it even more triggering.

>>86955576
>WAAAAAHHHH MY BELIEFS ARE OBJECTIVE FACT AND SHE DOESN'T CONFORM TO THEM
Lol. Get over yourself nigger.

>>86948504
>Joker gets raped by the same guards.

I actually laughed at this reading it don't know why. What the fuck they were thinking

>>86948504
If this is the real story people is right to hate it is totally trash.

>>86956341 thats a lot of words just to say something everyone already knows kek

>>86948504
It's kind of an interesting concept. It implies that there are multiple Jokers in the Batman universe, and when one dies another takes his place. Maybe that's why Batman refuses to kill any of them, because he knows that another person will turn into the Joker if the current one dies.

>>86950296
>showing the start of finding help for this sad fuck
In the context of the movies, Gotham is totally fucked, and Arthur was never going to get proper help.

>>86955884
These superhero comics are so fucking old...

>>86948504
>Also the sequel was a musical
this is the worst part btw

>>86950182
To be a contrarian

>>86948504
No he didnt retard, he stated that joker was a one and done but then he got paid 20mill dollars and the actor for joker got 50mill to create what retards wanted

>>86950182
she's special

>>86951502
Post Koefficient's
>you parasocial fucks
Moments. Both forma de Rushia and forma de Kronii

would joker be a good vtuber

>>86948128
pippa has terrible opinions about literally every piece of media

>>86948856
I don't respect anybody who shares a discord with fans.
Looking at you too Towa.

>>86949944
Which universe does this even take part of? The suicide squad one with leto joker (lmao) or the one with twilight batman?

>>86956678
yes he did retard, todd philipps hates the joker as much as rian johnson hates star wars
what are you going to believe, curated interviews or your lying eyes?

>>86950967
Thats because its entirely a left wing fantasy. Right wing and natonalist populism is extremely hierarchy-focused and tends to uplift its figureheads to the point of idolatry, while is generally the revolutionary left that eats its own.

>>86948504
honestly not surprised, when you expect the director of the hangover movies to write a script that isn't just ripping off taxi driver and king of comedy you get this trash

>woman plays the contrarian for social media clout
Not surprising.

>>86949099
Would you say "Point of the movie ≠ narrative"? the narrative was there just to tell us a story, meanwhile the point of the movie was there to shove in the face of our modern society how fucked up is it.
Like, you don't even have to get political, in this very same board we have people glorifying shitty abuse just because muh corpo/vtuber, just because it's entertaining.
Arthur is there to shown the very real bad ending that can befall to the people in the middle of that drama, like Sayu or Rushia.

>>86950865
based fauna

>>86957148
>sakana bans pippa from making political hot takes
>pippa does movie review hot takes instead

>>86957057
tbf the left has it's idol too, which is the state

>bunch of randos calling her out
>unironically tries to justify why she likes it
You get what you fucking deserve lmao

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>>86948128
>I haven't watched the first one though

>>86948128
Pippa knows exactly what she's doing and that's deliberately inserting herself in drama. For what purpose? I have no idea. At least Shondo with the manager thing was funny and entertaining but this is just sad.

>>86957311
Tell that to an anarchist

>>86948128
>>86948234
>>86948504
>author's thinly veiled gay rape fetish: the movie
wew lad

>>86957546
>For what purpose?
Attention
Shondo has been trending, now Pippa is trending for her shit opinion

>>86955203
It's funny you retards post shit like this even as the foreigns you import start to ban gay flags from the cities they have overrun. Protip: When they bring you to the roof, it isnt because they want you to help hang the pride flag back up

>>86957579
anarchy is impossible as there will always be strong and weak people, some bastard will sooner or later take the reigns of power rendering the whole thing moot

>>86948489
It's not a big deal, but dramatroons like to create drama out of anything related to vtubers.

>>86948128
Pippa is a known for hot takes which are about 50-50 based or retarded.
Pippa loves musicals.
Pippa is a contrarian.
It's easy to see how she arrived to this conclusion

>>86957639
It's sad to see people retreat to fantasy this desperately. I hope you get better soon anon.

>>86957744
This movie is a musical?

>>86957173
>Joker 2 was a commentary about menhera vtubers
was it kino all along?

>everyone defending her hasnt seen the movie either

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>>86957951
nobody did

>>86957951
>Everyone who things different from me is xyz
Lmao. Child.

>>86954442
Oh nyo, the shoncuck ATM is having a melty
Keep paying for those plane tickets like a good little cuck

The movie would have been great if main character was a little girl

>>86950309
If only Pippa had the balls to drop her kiwi friends for good. They can go cry about it on TVA whilst they find a new 2view that the site owner recommends to groom.

>>86957951
I torrented it. Honestly. It's not bad. Tho I was expecting to see smth on Morbius levels of bad.

>>86958060
>things
Slapped your keyboard too quickly, huh?

>>86948128
Pippa's entire schtick is being a retarded contrarian, this isn't anything new

>>86958060
>things different
kek brown

>>86957579
Not that anon, but I know one self-proclaimed anarchist, and the logic he operates on is "if we can't have a truly stateless society, then the state we have right now has to be the most elaborate and controlling one possible".
I don't know how indicative of the movement that person is, but it would track with what that anon said.

>>86958132
>>86958184
>Ah, you may have told me, but I found a minor mistake so I win, nyehehe!
Do I even need to say anything?

>>86958222
that sounds fucking retarded

>>86958237
No, but for some reason you feel obligated to defend your stance despite acting as if you're indifferent to the situation.

>>86958060
I hope you realize the irony anon

>>86958317
NTA but that's this whole fucking board in a nutshell. Neck yourself retardchama

>>86957825
Yes
LMAO

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>>86958257
That much I figured myself.

>>86958090
>Clussy loli goes to jail and gets raped by the guards
Fucking kino

Joker 1:
>Mentally ill man gets treated like shit repeatedly by a society that takes advantage of him and is unable to get the help he needs eventually resulting in him snapping
Joker 2:
>What if he sang and dance and got raped and murdered?

Truly brave

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I kinda liked the movie too.

>people making a huge deal about her shit taste in movies
>meanwhile she DMCA'd Henya

>>86949269
Kinda worked for Kirsche, if she didn't lean rightward I don't think her ranting about sounding would have saved her career. But Blair White, seriously? They're the right's version of Dylan Mulvaney, the moment they drop the trans act is when their career's over.

>>86958257
leftists are retarded, yes

>>86958449
>Mentally ill man gets treated like shit repeatedly by a society that takes advantage of him and is unable to get the help he needs
This is literally like 3/4s of the movie, but he also dances and sings lol

>>86958499
I'm pretty sure she wouldn't do that. Probably some Indian cunt abusing the DMCA system.

>>86953892
>>86954303
Please don't let Ryan gosling act in a movie where he is getting raped or cucked

>>86958609
Please let Ryan Gosling act in a movie where we see his lubed up body get sodomized while he arches his back

>>86958535
I feel like there was a way to set up Arthur's eventual death without undermining the whole thing about how society would rather do anything except take care of its own.

>>86958645
ok but it has to be consensual

>>86958645
Based

>>86958651
That I do agree. It felt so sudden and anticlimactic. Also the dude killing him being THE ACTUAL JOKER felt so cheap. Other than that I kinda liked everything else. Except how they adapted Harley.

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>>86958609
I doubt he would take a role where that happens, even in movies where he plays characters that are written to be "pathetic" he still manages to give them some charm

>>86948337
kinda based
hope all unicorns suffer the same fate

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>>86958679
Fine. But we have to show his erect penis too

>>86956324
Babski is a unicorn shitposter that wants to cause drama between the girls but so far has avoided making a condom superchat.

>>86951088
NTA and late but no, Rica used to use L2D before she was booted, and nayuta has an L2D right now

>>86958775
I'm still not sure if they were contractually forced to do that, or if it was on their own volition. Probably the first seeing as they were bawling their eyes out (at least ewiwa)

>>86948128
who cares, shiity movies flopped

>>86959008
Either way, and no matter whether you think the company was right to fire Doki in the first place or not, it changed Elira's image permanently.

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>>86948128
WHY DID THIS GET MORE TALKED TO THAN TRANSFORMERS ONE AAAAAAAAA

>>86959158
Transformers is just another Transformers film