Production Kawaii is dying tonight. Thoughts? They're kinda oldfags of EN vtubing's history after all.
My thoughts are that they
>>87032472Mozzu won
>>87032511same
>>87032472Im a phasefag and it makes me sad.new small corpos are soulless.long live the 2021-2022 golden age of small corpos
Thread shitter makes yet another bait thread about this, and within first 2 posts he samefags>>87032606Actually hilarious. This guy is permanently online. You can catch him shitposting on /vt/ for literally 48 hours straight. The only reason why he is mostly in /pkg/ is because we get next to no moderation over there.
>>87032703What's the unnamed furry corpo?Captcha:NTRDY
Their general is usually even more of a dumpster fire than some catalog thread. If that's the environment in which they operate, I'd be spooked.I would be sad if they were gone.
Hana was right.
>>87032472Who?
>>87032703Cute
>>87032887She'll save Reina
>>87032472>>87032703QRD?
>>87033172Nobody really knows until later todayAssuming corpo dissolves and everyone keeps their models though
>>87033172gen 1, 2, and 4 posted the dreaded announcement frames a couple days ago. people speculating the company is folding, letting them go indie, or baiting for views. there’s no official statement from the company yet and the the announcement relay starts in five hours.
>>87033305>baiting for viewsThis would definitely not go wrong at all
>>87032472Nene was the face of Kawaii.Nene also spit on its legacy by effectively banning Hana Flores from ever being remembered. Good riddance.
It is wild to think that back in February 2023, with Aletta and Oceane getting hot and doing big things, kawaii looked poised to be the #1 small corpo (with IdolEN nipping at their heels with Yuko getting popular and Rin getting mega algo'd unlike anything small corpo vtubing had ever seen before).
>>87033305>baiting for viewsPlease let this be true.
>>87033305I already barely watch kawaii but if it's baiting I'm stopping altogether. If it's not baiting I probably won'tbe able to watch them anyway.
>>87032472announcing to be flayon's next cocksleeves company
>>87033771At long last
>>87032472I often see kohaku fans so desperate for somewhere to talk about their girl aside from /pkg/ that they bring her to the catalogi hope they can find a better place soon.
>>87033606Kawaii always was "The Nene & pals show", the only one who was remotely close to her was Doxxeane
>>87032703>Im a phasefag and it makes me sadNo it doesn't
>it's le nene company xdI've been watching them on and off for a couple years and never once have I watched her.
I miss all of my /clg/ bros like you wouldnt believe
Sorry Kawaii but everyone is too busy with Dooby/Shondo/Pippa and their various dramas to bother caring about (you). Next time make your farewell streams at a more auspicious time. Thanks
>>87034010Everyone deserves a place away from kektomos
>>87033771I have never seen one gay boy cause so many straight womens pregancies
>>87034311i really don't get why they fantasize so much about him specifically. what is it about flayon that attracts cuckniggers so?
>>87032472Isn't this the company that bragged about having the first vtuber concert in the US when they undercut holoEN right after Connect the World was announced? Good riddance.
>>87034373Don't seek any deep thoughts behind their actions, they're basically bots repeating whatever trash sticks with them.
>>87034373Phasenigs projecting because their girls keep throwing themselves at him
>>87034438Yeah, it was rather pathetic. But just like that one cunt who spent money to advertise herself at a AA baseball game before the Dodgers collab, it did nothing.
>>87032815heavenrendI fucking miss that dog
>>87032472Regardless of what it is, management should've just spit it out 2 days ago and then let everyone say their piece with these streams after people have had time to sink it in.
>>87034617
>>87033305>baiting for viewsThis would be really funny but would piss a lot of people off too
>>87034802Idol doesn't belong to that group. They were younger and belong with Akioair, Pixellink in that newer generation. Not to mention they are still alive
>>87035476Aviel's Idol is much different than soulless nu Idol. it 100% belongs
>>87034070Shee has had a meteoric incline this year. I will be distraught if she gets robbed of her concert and outfits
>>87034438Schizos seething about Kawaii getting the first concert and think that they have the sway to demand a venue will always be funny when they've been planning one for awhile and even had some kickstarter for it.
>>87032472>"GFE company" that doesn't actually do GFERIP bozo
>>87035685If you're going to inflate go add Akioair, V&U, Vreverie and Pixellink too. 3 of those are still alive last time I checked
TOTAL CORPO DEATH
>>87035715>meteoric inclineanon harvesting on dead subs is meaningless. her 100,000 dead subs she has gained have meant so much to kawaii that the company is announcing they are going out of business in 4 hours.As a company, kawaii has gained more total subs in 2024 than they have in any year. And they are dying tonight.
>>87035793he won't do it because it disrupts the narrative
>>87035685Aviel brought about many bad things that spread across the vtuber landscape and was a dirtbag from the beginningWhy are you still shilling for him goy? He took all the shekels and ran you won't get one
>>87033466Seiso Clara was never meant to be
>>87035851because Aviel's idol was unironically fun to follow and had the spirit of the original small corpo carnival that matched with Phase, Cyberlive, etc.Idol's identity as the black jew corp is dead.and all of the people from him to the talents who made Idol what it was during their peak are gone
>>87035851Wasn't it Aviel the main hypeman for "transparency" about revenue split that caused the wedge to form between Kawaii and their Gen3 in the first place and led to kawaii's downfall.It wasn't even transparency about everything just about that one issue, the revenue split.He also popularized donothon ads and paid debut watchalongs, things that kawaii was too poor to emulate and also caused issues between management and Gen3
>>87036034iirc Phase Connect's Ashelia was the first small corpo donothon.
>>87036022You mean Tomer's idol. It was Tomer who nurtured that carnival atmosphere, regardless of anything else he did, and when he left, Aviel tightened things up and made things feel weird for months before Aviel left too
>>87036157ADS for donothonsnobody bought ads in bulk for donothons before Idol did it was an amazing strategybefore corpos bought ads for music or for debuts only
>>87035476But it's not idol logo, it's just aviel.
>>87036285and it still doesn't belong in that imagea man is not a company
>>87036157i had never even heard of a small corpo donothon (only a twitch subathon) until her ill fated one to start off that year. i know rita had done one for charity, but that is charity and not just saying "hey give me money on youtube and i will stream for 72 hours."once lia did hers, it felt like the flood gates opened and idol, kawaii and phase were having them every other week with the stakes getting raised after each one
Meh Nene will continue indie anyway. Only worry is whether or not she'll end up as one of those who sits on a discord with top paypigs and meets them at groomer cons or something.
>>87032472I thought Nene was carrying the company on her back? Is Nene declining?
>>87032472Other than Nene I don't care about Kawaii. Everyone there do male collabs.
>>87036371IIRC Lia got raided by Idol girls 3-4 times during her donothon, something that had never happened before or sense. They were keeping an eye on it for sure to see if she met her goals and to see if you really could just ask a fanbase to give you money for a random donothon not associated with any cause or event.
>>87033466If you look at Clara now it's clear she isn't a fit for a company like Production Kawaii. She's a good singer but she's completely unhinged.
>>87036371Everything that spread out from idol was a net negative for the vtubing scene, gen 3 had theirs, stole the money and ran off when they thought they had enough paypigs to follow them to their indie careers.Idol was a blow to vtubing and people still defend them
Meimi will carry kawaii from now on. SOOOOOO CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTE!!!!!!!!! OMG!!!!
>>87036763yeah but it was a fun time. i miss the wild wild west of small corpo vtubing from 2022.
>>87036889Meimi is kawaii's most sex design!
As much as I enjoy shitting on Kawaii, I hope they don't dieIt'll be the last remnant of old small-corpo vtubing finally falling Take me back to 2022 bros...
>>87032472Gimme a qrd on who's salvageable and who's flushable.
>>87032703i guess /tsunx/ the best case scenario for an ex-corp general
>>87037057Imagine if management got their head on straight and they didn't hire ocean, the whorse and mozu... The vtubing landscape of today wouldnt be filled with so much twitch ethots and NTR trash
>>87032472times for people who live in civilized society
>>87036552That's relative, she's a mid-to-high 3view in a company of 2views and low 3views
DROP GFEGET AN ARROW TO THE KNEEV4MIRAI WILL NEVER BETTAY ME
>>87037295Umm Europe is the cradle of western civilization, sweetie.
>>87032703>avielYou weren't there. There was no small corpo unity. It was /pclg/ on one side and /ppg/, /pkg/ and /tsun/ on the other.
>>87037371don't use my retarded green ghost wife to faggotpost
>>87037371Alias Ohnono he doesn't know
I just hope Charzu gets to be a real charzu in Brave - that's the only corpo they flourish in!
>>87037273Oceane was the only good one tho. The rest of Gen 3 were cunts who deserved all the harassment she threw at them.
>>87037371>he lacks the critical information
>>87037371Isn't v4mirai gfe as fuck, though?The horse was the only one in her gen who wasn't gfe. Are the newer girls different from gen 2?
>>87037371>Alias>shitting on Kawaiihe really doesn't know
>>87037466Wait a second, those are some large orbs to ponder...
what other small indie companies can I apply to now?
>>87036328I still trust in Aviel's plan.
>>87032472ITS OVER!!!!!!!!!!!
>>87034519>>87035732holotrannies are mentally ill
>>87034438indeed thats them they remained uncouth till the very end too so agreed good riddance
https://youtu.be/wVhb43V3MbMhttps://youtu.be/DkPQplRx2oohttps://youtu.be/IFa39yiPPwkhttps://youtu.be/hQrNdJ4U7EUhttps://youtu.be/v30SPRMkIEM
>>87037466Do all of them have a nude variation? I think Reina and Neena showed it as well. Why have that toggle if YouTube is so hostile to it.Based none the less.
>>87038219Reina's had nipples
>>87037363all her ASMR streams are 4views and many of the ASMR Vods end up reaching 200k+ views too. She's by far the biggest vtuber in the company. Like there is Nene and then everyone else. There's a gap.
>>87038219Nene has a lingerie toggle that she's only used once in a member's stream.
>>87037634Only horse's gen is GFE, none of the others have nearly that much interest in GFE
>>87036552Inclining. Which makes how sudden this all is pretty shocking. Vagueposting started maybe two weeks ago but confident talk about the future is still happening even now. It's strange.
>>87038608Dayum.
>>87038801sounds like another idol situationinb4 brave
>>87037634Gen 2 is, gen 3 is like 50/50 on gfe and zoomer, new gen is super zoomer and so far the closest you get is Poma who claims to be obsessive and clingy but doesn't really show it outside of a few throw away yandere moments.
>>87037371V4MIRAI do homo collabs now even though most of them are hardcore GFE. Only like 1 or 2 still don't. V&U are the same. It's hard to find chubas that don't do homo collabs nowadays. From Kawaii you can always trust Nene but from V4MIRAI I'm not sure... Maybe Yae, Mono and Mariya? Alias is not good though unless cuckoldry is your thing.
Someone told a known groomer of VTubers that Kawaii is dead.
>>87039177Mariya plays Apex with some Niji dude on stream every now and then.
>>87038666This is a shitpost for those who are tourists
>>87039255>my sources are NOT V-derereminder this dork begged his little dox forum to buy Mozzu's merchandise or else she was gonna be stuck with thousands to pay for the unsold stuff because it was selling very poorly.
>>87039255Exactly the kind of post I would expect from a kawaii anti and a doxx forum fag. Guy should gargle glass.
>>87039255Guess which gen 1 fanbase he belonged too.
>87039255>Kawaiisus
>>87039365Doxxknight? That or Hana.
>>87039255literally who? who gives a shit about some literal sexpests opinionbeta is probably mad he would get stonewalled if he tried that shit with gen 1&2
>>87039365pippa
Meh, PixelLink is where it's at now, very cgdct and gfe
>>87039461learn to gatekeep dipshit
>>87039177Only Mono, Mariya and Alias are GFE.
>>87039497>Mariyashe LITERALLY collabs with NIJI males.
>>87039177Anon...you can't trust any GFE chuuba.
>>87039255His sources were in fact vdere
>>87039497Yae on the other hand is high class escort experience if you want someone who will unconditionally love you and tease you, but knows she'll always be your side woman
>>87039347grim
>>87039572Your girlfriend will have male friends too, anonUnless you're from the wrong part of the world
at the end of the day>3d concert at a venue>been a guest at big conventions>playbutton>small corpo legend>helped build a company that allowed newer gens achieve some of their goals too>will undoubedtly be one of the bigger indies on youtubeNene won.Mozu lost.
>>87039817>small corpo legend
>>87037449>>87037525>>87037688Fuck it, I'm NTA, you guys talking about Alias collabing with males or some other thing?
>>87036889she's so incredibly sexy
>>87039758Ryoma was the first person she followed on her new account
>>87040071I hear she is actually doppio
>>87040083what new account
>>87040083The sisters in Niji EN want him to be in all the small corpos DMs.
>>87040071newfag, here's a lesson>don't like a chuuba because tribenigger or whatever reason>call them a whore>anons demand evidence>smugly go "anon lacks critical knowledge" or "he doesn't know"anyways yeah she's actually doppio
>>87040029she lasted nearly 4 years as a founding member of a small corpo. She has a playbutton. She has done big 3d concerts. She has collabed with big players in vtubing. She is one of the few small corpo girls who has made over $100k in supas. and she did it all on her own.for her sector of vtubing, nene is a legend. top 10 small corpo girl all time. you cannont tell the story of small corpo vtubing without mentioning nene amano.
>>87039461But for how long? Raki is barely holding on to her mask, Kanna is big but she is a grifter, most of the others besides maybe 1 are about the same as the kawaii girls as far as gfeOverall I dont want CGDCT to be overtaken by degeneracy but it seems like it is
>>87039255>Phase Connect mention.What's with phasecucks and attacking every other vtuber?
>>87040184>She has a playbuttondays away from her fourth lap around it too
>>87040184she didn't do anything for small corps by marketing a generic brand version of hololive. who is she even meant to appeal to? people who want hololive with a different coat of paint?
>>87037466>No nipplesTrash
>>87039255it'd be so funny if someone would doxx this doxxnigger
>>87038306>Reina's had nipplesProof?
lamy will do anything to get her nene backso what exactly did oceane do that caused the other 4 to walk out?
>>87040268NPC cuck spotted
>>87040316Best part it was on a celebration stream with all of gen 1.
>>87040339Dox them relentlessly, and being Indo.
>>87040355i'm serious. what does mimicking hololive do for the rest of small corpo vtubing? what message does it send? "you can kind of succeed if you slavishly mimic someone else successful"? there's plenty of idolshit as is in vtubing. holofags can't even keep up with their own corp. what do the rest of us get out of it?
>>87040184>she lasted nearly 4 years as a founding member of a small corpohow many in niji can say this?>She has a playbuttonhow many in niji can say this?>She has done big 3d concertshow many in niji can say this? ESPECIALLY in a venue.>She is one of the few small corpo girls who has made over $100k in supasniji's newest couple gens would kill for thisshe has had a better vtubing career than most and she didn'; have to go to holo, niji, or vshojo to do it
>>87040268>who is she even meant to appeal to?Me.https://youtu.be/KYLaCVq_TRw
>>87040339She wasnt the main reason gen 3 walked but she should have never been hired. Cant really screen for that kind of behavior though women like that are great at lying through their teeth
>>87039435Apparently his opinion matters so much he is going to be platformed to give advice to others. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nD4QqdNWN8Who in their right mind would take advice from a Kiwi Farms-adjacent host?
>>87040071Brave is imposing content restrictions because of the Sanrio collab, lewd ASMR is the first casualty.Yae, Nova, and Yumi PLs are all in re-branding arcs (Yae's already has a new model), since Mari gave her character to Brave she has an entirely new vtuber made.
>>87040268You need to go back to whatever twitch community or kpop trash you were in before you dragged yourself into vtubers you are what is killing it
>>87040450and mozzu is none of these things. he claim to fame is nene amano didn't like her.
>>87040559You would be better served by fucking NEXAS Harry to learn about vtubing than this clown.
>>87040559why shill this here?
>>87032511FPBP
>>87040580i was part of the vtuber community before the idolshit plague happened. the two aren't interchangable. nene didn't change anything, she was just the best at riding off hololive's coattails outside of hololive's main orbiters. seriously. what is her contribution?
>>87040339She would post doxx and talk shit about the other Kawaii girls (and the other gen3 girls in particular) on her groomcord but that wasn't the only reason the other girls walked out
why the need for so many streams to say the same thing? Just have nene say it
>>87040671There's a good chance that's Proctor himself.
>>87040671Kektomos are on topic!
>>87032511I think you accidentally
>>87040268Your point is flawed, no streamer male or female has done anything new in ages so you can always say "all he/she did was X but with a different coat of paint"
>>87040712>idolshitNIJISHEETHE
>>87040738could be similar to what happened with prism where each talent announced if they’re going indie with the model or graduating from streaming
>>87040712she contributed more than anybody in phase connect.couldn't be pippa who just ran the nyanners playbook.
>>87040654don't give them ideas.
>>87040235Qrd on raki? I like the raccoon but refuse to support whores
>>87039255>"Manager Arc Unlocked?" in profilekek lmao
>>87040738It most likely it's going to be a similar situation to Prism or Idol and the corpo is going poof or getting heavily restructured and they will be given the choice to stay, leave with the model or graduate, and each girl is gonna individually announce what they are gong to do
>>87040886>giving nene credit for running the holo playbook>don't give pippa for running the nyanners playbook?it's hypocrisy. both are heavily uninspired.
>>87040940Some guys manage a bunch of vtubers. God knows how many vtubers TheDuelLogs manages.
>>87040712>vtubers before idolshit>Kizuna Ai and the 4 Heavenly KingsDo better at trolling bucko
>>87032472> Thoughts?Rape correcting Nene for at least 72 hours.
>>87040559Imagine how pathetic you'd have to be to want to watch this
>>87039255>Phase mention out of no where of course. phasefags really can't help themselves.
>>87040712by this metric, nobody made contributions besides kizuna AI and hatsune miku,also if what Nene Amano has accomplished is so easy, why have only like 10 other small corpo vtubers done it? I wil tell you why: cause she is Nene Amano and they are not.
>they all move to twitch>immediately get banned
>>87040932A good girl that is wrapped up with bad people, is currently a freshman in college...It is a horrible fate for everyone involved. If only she knew better and trashpans were not as parasocial as they are things might not go how everyone is waiting for it to go
>>87041129nah, plenty of vtubers are highly influential in vtubing within their specific niche. but i don't see nene as having been transformative of or influential in vtubing--- or even juts the small corpo vtubing sphere, at all. that's what i don't buy. she generally plays it even safer than hologirls. but i don't see her ever really inspiring other vtubers, which i can't say about pippa.
>>87040126>>87040162As in, NijiEN's Doppio?
>>87032511>Candlejack lurks /vt/ tooGod fucking d
>>87041138Anon, I...She already simulcasts everything. The new rules would be a pain for some of her outfits I agree.
>>87041129You are talking with an anon that does not understand how hard it is to survive as a small corpo vtuber for years, especially as someone who began as a starter member. Small corps life is unstable and volatile. ffs Phase Connect has like 5 or 6 girls who didn't last at other small corpos and they had to seek shelter from an established company who already built a viewer base. Clara couldn't even last 3 months in kawaii she was not cut out for the grind of starting a corpo. Nene lasted 3 years.Nene helped pave a road to get her and her genmates places.Clara had to rely on the road that other vtubers in Phase Connect who came before her paved because she was unable to pave one herself.
>>87041476oh i've seen like a dozen? corpo collapses by now. i know full well corpos are a load of shit and 99% of small corp CEOs are worthless niggers baiting young women with their dreams of fame only to completely abandon them when they figure out they have to put in a modicum of fucking work (verdict's still out on fatcat as the 1%). i think it's extremely idiotic to perform loyalty towards corporations that will never, ever return the favor. although things EVENTUALLY went to shit ria had the right idea bailing out of tsunderia as soon as she could. after all; there's about a 0% chance you'd even know who i'm talking about if she didn't. they should've all bailed ship after gen3 walked out regardless of what they thought about gen3 because at that point it was obvious that the corp wasn't gonna survive. and here we are. finally limping to a final resting spot over a year later that could've been devoted on anything else.either way, the point is that nene hasn't really done anything that makes her particularly influential to small EN vtubing. who has she inspired? what has she done for other vtubers? what is different in a world where nene exists vs. one where nene doesn't exist?
>>87041476the funny thing is that clara is so afraid of the grind that she was hired to be their japanese branch face, and she gave up and streams only in english because it was easy numbers and she did not want to actually grind and build for new fans
>>87041841go take a show Mozzu
>>87041476I don't want to shit on Clara but yeah, she isn't built for anything that takes alot of effort. she pads phases number of talents and fills a time slot. she is good at that
>>87041841>they should've all bailed ship after gen3 walked out regardless of what they thought about gen3absolutely not.by staying, they got to have their big goal accomplished of having a 3d concert at a venue.that alone for the 7 of them makes their time in production kawaii worth it.elira, rosemi, enna etc STILL have their dream of doing a full 3d concert at a venue unfulfilled. nene and her genmates got to experience that.
>>87039255>they're a bunch of cat nailsI don't get it.
>>87042044emoji bitch ain't got nothing on Nene's nails anyway
>>87042044phasefags like him are usually brown and low IQ please understand
>>87042013Clara is amazing, she was hamstrung in Kawaii by having to keep up a seiso idol act.
>>87039255does this retard think Phase Connect invented summer events in the year 2024?Life is suffering liking girls from this company sometimes.
>>87042028>elira, rosemi, enna etc STILL have their dreami don't follow nijishit, is it actually their dream? or just a idolshit brain assumption that it's their dream?if you think that extra year for the concert was more worth it than a year of getting out of kawaii, fair enough i guess. either way, there's no reason to stick around now, and i don't think whatever's happening is their call. and i think it's fair to say under the presumption that they couldn't have done it themselves that the concert was production kawaii's accomplishment more than theirs.
>>87042235I don't like non-CGDCT stuff, but I understand some of our girls like your girls, the only reason I avoid most of phase is because of fans like that and the more unhinged talents on your side, but mostly the fans.Wish it was different but ya know... yeah
>>87042235i give likers a pass because, while cucks, they seemingly hate /pcg/ as much as the rest of the board. hated it so much they made their own general.
>>87042292It doesn't seem like you know much about the idol project but it was truly everyone in kawaii that stayed in kawaii that made their dream come true, it wouldn't have happened if they all left and they wouldn't betray their fans like that unlike others. It meant more to them than "making it big" somewhere else or baiting donothons constantly.Watching them perform their orisong Forever Bloom live after everything that happened made me tear up, and I haven't teared up or cried since my father died 8 years ago.inb4 charzu tells me I need therapyI don't hate hololive but there was more soul to that whole journey than what holo has pushed for the past 2 years
>>87042418pcgia is also pretty nice
Dubs and Kawaii closes down tomorrow
>>87042292>that they couldn't have done it themselves that the concert was production kawaii's accomplishment more than theirs.They are kawaii. When they started the group, a 3D idol concert at a venue was an end game goal. And they achieved it. That is a tangible goal they achieved together.Again: Nene, Charzu, Isla, Reina they are kawaii. They were with kawaii when the company was born in 2021, and they are with kawaii when the company potentially dies in 3 hours. They saw it thru until the end. They were there for the ups and the downs.
>>87032472>They're kinda oldfags of EN vtubing's history after all.Isn't that Tsunderia?
>>87042802i would consider any agency that was formed in 2021 or before oldfags. they also outlived tsunderia by almost a year.
>>87033466What's the story with hana and nene?
>>87042235I honestly feel sorry for you anon, I'm the same as some other people. I would love to give Phase a try, but the fans have left a horrendous impression on me that I simply cannot give them a chance and watch them consistently, even though I kinda liked a couple of Pippa's streams and one stream from Runie.People like him need to have the Ui image about oshi marks and social media taped in front of their computer every time they are going to post something on the internet.
>>87042989One schizo is mad that when the company got sold Hana's old inactive channel vods got wiped. There really is no story there. Nene interacts with others so rarely that forcing drama with her is hilarious if you know anything about her.
>>87042499I don't really care about the personal importance the concert had on them, I'm asking about the affect and influence they've had on en vtubing, which I frankly don't think is a whole lot.Insofar as hololive goes, I like them in a vacuum. Hate its fans, though. console war faggotry is one thing, and niji twitterfaggots are another, but idolshit genuinely brings out the worst, most unbearable faggots on the entire website. it's easy to imagine a board where idolshit never catches on and there's a fraction of a fraction of users who are CONSTANTLY discussing ntr, cuckoldry, unicorn shit, etc. worst part of the hobby by far. and i don't feel inclined to give kawaiifags credit for doing their best to make it worst. /pkg/ has always been one of the worst generals on this board. it being so idolshit focused i don't think is a coincidence.
Jesus 8 announcement streams? Just do a collab.
>>87043059/pcgia/ and /pcgen3k/ are not /pcg/shit outta luck if you wanna watch pippa though
>>87043124production kawaii had the first 3d vtuber concert in the United States of America. This is an unwavering fact and important.
>>87032472Wouldn't it be funny if actually this was good news but they're pulling everyone's leg for attention? I don't think it's that however.
>>87043124This you you dumb faggot? >>87039255Cope harder you can't groom idols because you are literally a subhuman.Hanging is your only option
>>87043200is it? which other small corps actually want 3d vtuber concerts in the united states of america? pretty sure most of production kawaii's contemporaries could've gotten it done long before if it was something they actually wanted to happen. is pixellink aiming for it? V&U? perhaps V-Dere?>>87043289no
>>87043326Good god your comprehension skills are trash proctor
>>87043326>pretty sure most of production kawaii's contemporaries could've gotten it donevshojo and nijisanji have not even gotten it done, and they have looked into it extensively.on an episode of the hags podcast, matara said vshojo were thinking about doing one at a venue, but balked at the cost it was way too high.
>>87043374if having the first 3d vtuber concert in the united states of america isn't influencing others, then... it's not influential. it's quite literally trivial.
>>87043124Twitch e-thot fleshtubers aren't vtubers, sorry that actual vtubing told hold in the west against your faggot wishes.
Weird how this pops up right when Kawaii is about to collapse.
>>87043448Reina is saved!
>>87043419the list of full 3d vtuber concerts that happened in america after kawaii set the trend and did theirs:>hololive>v4mirai at a smaller la con>phase connect at anime nyc>nijisanji famously failed at trying to run one at anime expokawaii was the first.
>>87043326>is pixellink aiming for it? V&U? perhaps V-Dere?no, they know idol shit is not worth the price tag
>>87043448I feel like only Reina would go for the easy route only one that would fit that kind of company anyways, being cucks and all
>>87043498>set the trendYou are delusional anon. hololive was going to have their EN concert somewhere in America no matter what your trivial small corpo did.
>>87043448>more gen spam when the company has been stagnant since Januaryffs Pippa was once asked to name all the members of Phase Connect and she could only list 15 and that was including Lia's mother.
>>87043559Sounds like a lot of cope to me
>>87043514You Kawaii cucks were always good at seething, kek.
>>87043498and of those 4, do you think any of them were much influenced by kawaii? i find that hard to believe. do any of their chuubas mention production kawaii, or production kawaii's chuubas & performances? panko ever say anything about nene's singing? REM ever comment on reina's choreography?
Aren't these starting soon?Post waiting rooms
>>87043609phase and kawaii have two seperate vibes, unless you are really going to say phase is actually CGDCT and not just the zoomer meme corpo?
>>87043514damn, kawaiifags really kind of suck
>>87043604>>87043559just fyi the Hololive concert happened like 2 weeks after the kawaii one, so they really didn't follow in anyone footsteps
>>87043595Numbers claim Phase is generally growing month over month
>>87043669Phase is the corpo that cucks you
>>87043669>the zoomer meme corpoaren't like a third of the girls over 30 or very close?
>>87043682>2 weeks afterEven funnier to know.
>>87043609Unfortunately, that was about all they were good at.
>>87043736Hags are the key to stability. And phase seems like the most stable en corpo
>>87043682Kawaii walked 2 weeks earlier for hololive to run. Stunning and brave small corpo.
>>87043401COULD'VE gotten it done. but no other corp besides hololive values 3d lives nearly as much. idk what point you're trying to make. they didn't do this thing that they weren't really interested in doing, vs. corporation that was nigh founded for explicitly that purpose? insofar as influential, i'm also sure it's pretty safe to say that any interest they HAVE gained in doing 3d lives... comes from watching how hololive's went. the truth is that kawaii was way too goddamn safe with everything it does. it had even less edge than hololive. the only people it appeals to are the people who are hardcore autists for people following explicit, written out rules of conduct. and it's probably a big part of why they're about to fold, having not really had much of an impact on the rest of vtubing.
>>87043559>>87043419>>87043760>>87043873My bad I just checked and it was actually 1 day before the Hololive concert so take that as you will
The antis aren't sending their best
>>87044114Your fanbase never had the makings of a winning corpo anon.
Nothing will happen. Nothing ever happens.
>>87043190/pcgia/ is filled with unironic avatarfags who spend more time talking about one another than the talents and /pcgen3k/ has maybe five posters in it
>>87039572yeah his girlfriend collabs with males for his entertainment too.
>>87032511fpb
>>87044321still better than /pcg/
>>87032703Isnt shlomo's corpo still kicking?
>>87037229That's because tsunderia was absolutely goated with their talent, I'll never forgive them for letting that ship sink. Thankfully some of their best are still active
>>87044278this doesn't apply for vtubers anon....
>>87032472fishman... https://twitter.com/PhaseConnect/status/1843780925571612709
>>87043686>Noombers claim-
>>87044394True, but that bar is 6 feet under
>>87044604Are there any in Kawaii worth poaching though?
>>87040575>Brave is imposing content restrictions because of the Sanrio collab, lewd ASMR is the first casualty.>Yae, Nova, and Yumi PLs are all in re-branding arcs (Yae's already has a new model), since Mari gave her character to Brave she has an entirely new vtuber made.Also Alias has to censor her avatar
>>87044771Clara wasWho knows what the other girls are like outside of Kawaii "culture"
>>87044771none of them were in tsunderia, sorry
>>87044819alias should let me cum inside
>>87044771They didnt hire any ex-Prism girls yet
>>87044475Brave Group is buying them out but quite a few are leaving including Rin Penrose.
>>87044819Disgusting. Big hooters breasting boobily in your face (seiso) was a core foundation of kawaii philosophy. Who will carry this mantle?
>>87044819what's the Yae PLalso it's very funny lol, I doubt they'll leave, they'll probably just double dip as Coni has been doing
>>87044920Damn, I did not know that. Thank you
>>87045110Double dipping seems like the new meta. Gives the talent a lot of power over their corpo knowing that they could easily hop back to an active and growing PL.
>>87045283also squeezing your audience dry, literally having so much content they can't even catch other vtuber's streams
>>87044884Prism girls declined joining when he tried to poach some of them
>>87045328Nene already does that. there have been more "slow" weeks with only maybe seven to nine streams in recent memory. Twelve to fourteen when she was in high gear was my preference. I did nothing with my life but work and watch Nene. Sleep optional.[/spoiler[
>>87045441nice spoiler phoneposter :^)
>>87036896>NIJISEETHING FALSEFLAGGING
>>87044321those 5 posters? all me
Reina made it into Phasse. It's not even up for debate.
>>87040288No nipples are good.
>>87042013> she isn't built for anything that takes alot of effort??? Yes, her regular streams can be perceived as low effort which I would disagree with but the women does put time and effort into some high quality streams. Her Grease one man show was my favorite creative stream any chuuba has done this year. Kawaii took an early gigantic loss by not being able to retain her as Hana.
>>87038608>Nene has a lingerie toggle that she's only used once in a member's stream.Which one?
>>87046342She simply didn't want to grind in that way, she's a great singer and I have no hate in my heart for her. Most people aren't built to help create something from nothing, she isn't that kind of person and at the very least left early so it wouldn't hurt everyone even more than it already did. She found her place in this little world and I am happy for her and wish her and her fans the best.
>>87032703cyberlive will always live on
>>87043829Stable economically, yesStable emotionally, holy fuck no
>>87046653you're missing some people from the gen1 that quit predebut. a phase and pixellink girl.
>>87046551that's just the entire vtubing industry. All the top chuubas are corpo and they are all where they are at least in part because the corpo gave them the resources and visibility needed to gain traction. Kawaii just gave no resources or visibility to their talents, which is probably in part why it is where it is today. The only vtubers who genuinely did the "grind" from nothing to success is like, gen 0 hololive.Which isn't a criticism on chuubas who join a corpo that already has a footing, you need to have had your own path and experience to be able to edge out the other applicants. They just don't drag themselves through years in a stagnant corpo to find success.
>>87046527>>87046551Oh, if you mean from the ground up and building the corpo, I would only partially agree. But if she didn't like putting in high effort for ground up activities, that conflicts with the fact she has the 3rd highest subs count in the company from the last 3 generations of Phase. She grinded a bunch of streams and did nearly 5 months of straight consistent streaming before taking her break in June. No one who was lazy assuming no external circumstances would do what she did.
>>87046653There is a god and he shoved all the most insane girls into one corpo for our entertainment.
>>87046653god Menace's new model is pure unfiltered SEX
>>87046972Phase Connect is no bigger now than when Clara joined Phase Connect 10 months ago. She has not really done anything to help Phase Connect. If anything, it could be argued she has hurt Phase because she was supposed to build the JP branch by being a JP and they spent a lot of money advertising her as the focal point, and she has abandoned that completely for easy numbers from the existing Phase fanbase.
>>87032472vdere won barelyI'll kickback and enjoy the stream with a couple pints. They denied my oshi her graduation stream so I'll make sure to laugh at their own
>>87046908Which pixel link girl? im unfamiliar with this lore
>>87047301Corposlayer.
>>87033771how many cocksleeves does this dude have? like damn
>>87034373I just think it's funny
>>87047391sounds much more like you're unironically into it.
>>87047335and which one is that?
>>87044864yeah he's been waiting for other tsun girlshonestly can see meru joining soon and with el presidente reactivating her stuff it's only a matter of time till she goes home to mama
>>87042096I will not miss these fucking disgusting dragon claws or her bitchy attitude but i will miss her tits though that was and is the best thing about her
I can only hope /pkg/ stays contained to their cancer of a thread
So was the ones that would have started now all pushed back until tomorrow? Seemed like it. Only a couple including Nenes are schedules for tonight still
>>87047466I'm guessing he means Arisu
>>87032472Okay, I'll be completely objective with you here.Kawaii hit GOLD with their third gen.Numbers were higher than ever before, they had good variety of personalities, and things were looking optimistic.But when the walkout happened, THAT alone was basically enough to doom the corpo once and for all.Trust in them went to shit, nobody expected much of a recovery.The gen after that was absolutely terrible.. and the gen after that one was okay but still didn't capture the magic that was gen 3.They also stepped far away from their roots as a "girl only idol company" with the newer gens, alienating their existing viewerbase and dooming them further.Sad to see but it's been a slow death for a while now and comes as no surprise to me.
>>87047611We're all going back to /corpo/ in the end...
Yuno stream starting, can't wait for her to get BRAVED.
>>87047696None of the times have changed. It was always scheduled for both today and tomorrow.
>>87047728ah yea I did an archive search and figured out who it is but I cant figure out why they call her corposlapyer
>>87037466she was the one that organized an indonesian discord to spread doxx of the other girls right?based, SEAchads always win.
>>87047611I hope it goes away forever to be honest most of those faggots are discord groomers anyway and only use /pkg/ to fight with each other
1 hour left till this retarded announcement relay
>>87047846>winshe's having melties over numbers in her new persona
>>87047856Who's the first one?
KILL ALL CORPS
>>87047753I will never forgive them for what they did to be honest. They really did the biggest backstab in the industry and they still exist with fans (for now) and good relations with other vtubers just shows how little everyone cares about morality and loyalty now
>>87033771Doesn't phase already hold that spot?
>>87048003https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX6P9vGURuYShe's live but not doing the announcement until an hour in.
>>87047753>Completely destroys your company by leaving.Damn Gen 3 was truly the GOAT of Kawaii.
>>87040235>Kanna is big but she is a griftergrifting on what?i've watched her since she was the tiger and she seems pretty sincere to me.
>>87040339knowing SEA, Oceane shared a discord with other viewers and they asked her what she knows about her genmates and she gave more details than she should because SEA do not obsess over doxxing and the same details over personal information causing them to fire her when the other girls found out.
>>87047513>Meru joins PC with another new character>All the mental gains she's made over the past 2 years are steadily unwound as she remembers what it's like to work for Slugma>Somehow worse this time because she'll be comparing her numbers to Pippa and Lumi instead of Kana and RiaYou're so much better than this, Meru
>>87041192>that is wrapped up with bad peoplewhat bad people?
>>87047753vdere lostkawaii losteverybody lostthere is a timeline where all 5 of gen3 remain and kawaii are phase connect's level. at the time aletta and oceane left, they were as big as tenma.
>>87047216>genuinely try to be JP for a month after debut>audience is 99% English >one or two JPnikkis in her chat>management looks at the analytics and tells her to just stream in English now>literally a repeat of Beryl, where her numbers never improved as a JP streamer>(You): LAZY WHOREDon't be retarded anon, it was the smartest thing she has ever done.
>>87048088You won't even have a company for anybody to dunk on in an hour, kek.
>>87047513>>87048119given how Saya has been a monumental bust, I think the tsun nepo hire train is over.
I'm a V-Derefag, but this doesn't make me happy. Kawaii, and more specifically gen 3, were my inroad to the broader vtubing scene. They've made some unattractive blunders, and their management team has the stereotypical JP bureaucratic autism that does them absolutely no favors outside their home market, but I never wished for their demise.
>>87048221unironic college sorority whores
goddammit Yuno just tell us what it is already and stop fucking edging me on this announcement
>>87048238I sitll think she only needed evidence she worked for some entity operating wihin Japan thorugh the JP branch for her visa to remain valid.
>>87047846was there proof of the doxx actually happening? i thought it was just the 4 that got envious of her and backstabbed her. then when she hit the fan they all collectively bounced because they couldn't be part of the gen 1 & 2 concert.
>>87048331I wish the world was a better place and women weren't insane half the time.Maybe, in another time, we could have been best friends. Wouldn't you agree?
>>87048510Kawaiifags were never willing to try this route, so frankly I spit on your grave now.
>>87048591you'll be dead and buried with us soon, vderefag
are all kawaii vtubers as boring as this woman?seriously talking about tacos
>>87048510kawaiifags went thermonuclear when gen3 walked out due to their brand loyalty. it's their fault things turned out this way. nobody in /tsun/ blamed gen1 when they walked out because they didn't value the company over the chuubas.
>>87048510would have been nice but menhera choices were made and here we are
>>87048638Life has the same destination for everyone, but you will always be a loser from a dead corpo either way.
>>87048660she's obviously doing this to drown out faggots like you from the actual announcement
>>87048075I blame Aletta / Elia the most, even Mozzu can't put up with her whoring anymore.She was just as bad in Kawaii with her condescending BS attitude towards her audience
>>87049004anon that is vdere too....
>>87049019Gen 3 won uutterly and completely, the nonstop seething even at the end only proves it.
>>87049004Still likely to last longer than vdere lmao
>>87048737They valued their idol goal over ones that wanted a bunch of money, the whorse stole how much money from the company? It was women moment after women moment. Loyalty rarely exists with them and its only schizos that still anti either side at this point. We cant change the past
>>87048434Its most likely going to be bought by brave
>>87032472TOTAL.PHASEDOMINATION.
>>87049152Now say that again without crying.
>>87049384Culture already bought them I highly doubt it and I highly doubt the kawaii girls would stay if they were under that black corpo
>>87032703>Aviel
>>87049463Either bought out or they'll become indies.
>>87046653Why you no include Pandora? And good lord Menace's new model...
>>87050451what do you mean? she's there in the bottom left
>>87050451Pandora is the biggest name Cyberlive prodcued
>>87050451reps
>>87047216PhaseJP was never supposed to be profitable. It's literally a brand flex to say they "went international"
>>87047753It crippled the company on a crucial time, both Phase and Kawaii were steadily growing due to Niji and Holo refugees avoiding Luxiem and Tempus
>>87050740lol
>>87048510Who knows, maybe. I honestly have no idea what /here/ would even be like without the sort of conspiratorial mental derangement that festers and flourishes in places like /pkg/ or this thread. Common sense would never apply.All I know is that a bunch of girls getting cut loose from their corpo safety net and left to sink or swim is a story I'm tired of hearing. Nobody wins here.
And there it is.
nothingburgerthey're just going indie
does this mean nene will finally fucking do earlicking ASMR?
>>87050991>Anyone substantial amount of people entirely stopped watching a company because of muh males Do you retards even think?
>>87051403kek, what a retarded sign
>>87051828earlicking asmr is for sluts
>>87052129exactly..?
>>87052129(affectionate)
>>87052440>>87052305coomer fags keep your disgusting hands off my oshi, go watch your shitty earlicking slop on kick now that BASED neal is banning whores off youtube
