WTAF ??????? HOW !!
Mori was in Rolling Stone too and you guys tried to downplay it.
>>87194963it's special when an ill person does it.
>>87194905Can't say I care much for Ironmouse, but if normalfaggots get upset, then it's good news.
>>87194905NOWAYING
IMschizo lost.
>>87194905>Human womanMY IMMERSION!!
>>87194905It's easier than you think. Nene even ended up in playboy once.
Funny tangentially related story. Parent company owned Rolling Stone JapanGuess who never got any coverage in Rolling Stone Japan?
>>87194963Who?Oh the three view? Who cares. She's not huge like ironmouse and vshojo . She has to leech from kson to stay relevant.
>>87194905is this the most successful grift of all time? imagine if she didnt play the "I'm dying" card. She'd be a 2 view nobody shitter.
>>87194905>questioning whether she's legiti question whether her subs are legit
>>87194905Take a look Gura, this could have been you, if you had even a single ounce of passion for your work.
>>87195993being noticed by the legacy media isn't a good thing.
https://x.com/FearedBuck/status/1840931095753142318https://x.com/mattabolismmm/status/1840935201972572327>the twitch normalfags are seething
>>87195890Same, why were the people who donated the sub gifts anonymous? Kinda sus.
>>87194905Normalfags are still calling every vtuber males?
>>87196714Yes>>87196377
>>87196377who gives a shit what those literal goblins think
>>87196907Unfortunately, a very large amount of young people.
>>87194905the queen of pickme sluts
>>87197045NIJISEETHE
>>87196377>washed up male grifters mad that an anime girl out-grifted them
>>87195185Addiction is a disease.
>>87194905she is and always has been a cia plant
>>87194905>Twitch's ceo favorite sex toy>Legit accomplishing something by herselfLolLmao even
>>87197430we're talking about mouse, not shondo
>>87194905Rolling cuck fell off like 20 years ago
>>87194905Probably gonna get flak for this, but whats rolling stone? is it a burger thing?
>>87194905Yeeeep. This is a fucking psy-op by Ironmouse and Gunrun. I hate being the conspiracy theorist, but holy fuck. ONE GUY, posting a basic bitch hate tweet at her, commented on by Connor, All drama-tubers, Legal Mindset, Some other news site, and now Rolling Stone. Gunrun is paying every single person to cover and signal boost this nothing burger. At this point, I don't believe the tweeter wasn't a dummy account by a Vshoujo intern. It's all a conspiracy, and I'm done pretending it isn't. still not watching her, other than the death livestream
All Ironmouse needs to do is post an IRL picture of herself with all the supposed oxygen tanks and medical equipment or whatever to dispel all this. But she won't. The grift must go on.>>87195882It is. I mean, how many times has she and Connor fake cried on stream about how ill she is at this point? Too many to count. It's all calculated.
Ironmouse (and VShoujo) will publicly endorse Kamala Harris before the end of the month, SCREENCAP THIS
>>87195675...Vshojo?
>>87195993Gura has way more subs but they are on a different platform, Youtube. Why didn’t she get The Rolling Stones article? Doesn’t seem right
>>87194905Who actually likes iron mouse? She’s so annoying
>>87195260It's simply jarring for normies, and I feel second hand embarrassment when I see them getting exposed to vtubers.
>every single person involved works for the same company as mr beast funny that
>>87194963HOLOSEETHE
>>87198472twitch trash have awful taste
>>87197723one of the most woke american media you can find these days
>>87198542Stop nooticing.
wow! rolling stone!!
>>87198132Problem comrade?
Is this the numbermonkey seethe thread? what is it about this little latina lady that makes them so mad?
>>87199071It's simple anon, the better she does the more vtubers will try to copy her meta. That is constantly collabing with male fleshtubers, doing react slop, and sleeping on stream.
Honestly speaking I like mouse but she doesn't deserve it
>>87196377if it was anyone else i might care but grift mouse deserves it
>>87195185mori's ill (obesity)
>>87199705Americans don't consider obesity an illness, it's a way of life.
>>87198132Probably not, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened.>>87199071Uh, actually, it’s latinx
>>87195260People who watch Iron Mouse ARE normies.
>>87199071it makes them seethe so fucking hard that this little latina lady is a million times more successful than they'll ever be
>>87194905she’s a nonwhite woman, you do the math
>>87200769her model looks white
>>87199946Being parasocial for an eternally dying anime girl and taking out loans to make her a multi millionaire isn’t normal.
>>87198132corpofags are so out of touch with western vtubers....go back to you /pol/faggotry board and never come back
>>87195890>>87196531They're subs from Twitch themselves aka Gunrun favors.
>>87201073but giving your money to million dollars company that went public is ofc
>>87201245Paying for a service or product isn’t the same as charity out of pity (for someone who has more money than you’ll have in your life)
>>87201169how the fuck is this legal
>>87198397one streams and the other doesn't.
It's funny going out of the comfy holobox and watching pigs wrestle in the mud like this sometimes
>>87201401Because twitch was running a promotion where if you bought gift subs, twitch would also give a random amount of subs too. It was automated.
>>87201169>most subbed on twitch because twitch wills itWhat’s even the point of the #1 title then? Can’t believe people take this nepo cuck site seriously.
>>87194905By giving them money
>>87201354pick your battle chud is it charity or is it to a millionaire pocket. your schizo babbling is confusing
>>87200931Are we forgetting the skin color toggle?
>>87201559Retard it’s both. Cucks think it’s charity when it’s not.
>>87201588 (me)Fuck me, forgot the link.https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2241529588?t=08h50m33s
>>87201559>is it charityVshojo and charities don't have a good record in the first place lol
>>87194905This probably settled the question Who is the mainstream chubba
>>87201169>>87201401wrong those are China subs. Thanks valorant for the promotion.
>>87201746At least they don't have nijis track record with them lmao
>>87201638Prove it
>>87201746what does this polschizo rambling goal post moving has to do with Ironmouse's IDF charity event?
>>87201746Holy based. Vshojo is the only patriotic American company
>>87202256It actually is, that's why zhangs and their sea minions seethe so hard at them
>>87198615Mousecucks try not to have a superiority complex challenge: failed immediately
>>87198132Are you gonna call in a bomb threat to San Juan if that happens, MAGAt?
Hololive and Nijisanji are irrelavant in the west. Only Phase and Vshojo are popular in NA and EU
>>87202462HOLOSEETHE
>>87194963So just like how Holofags claim that Holo represents VTubers on Youtube, Mousey is the queen of VTubers on Twitch (bigger platform) now?Good to get a confirmation, I suppose
>>87202623Further proves my point
>>87201588Praise God she got a proper Coppermouse model, the toggle palette was horrendous.
>>87201638>it's both>it's notWho's the retard?
>>87202623uh oh melty
>>87202687>bigger platformlol? there’s a reason IM’s all time highest viewership is a mere 45k
>>87202792wow you are retarded
>>87202937Normal people don't religiously watch streams live
>>87201746>multiple sources>nowhere to be found in current article versionI assume all the sources were Russian.
bragging about having the most twitch subs is like bragging about being the most popular person at the garbage dump
>>87203018lmfao twitch is THE live watcher platform, that’s why they often do 5+ hours a dayher VOD views are as shit as you’d expect from someone whose average is like 6k
>>87199769https://www.fatcon.org/damn you right
>>87194905POC woman with disability and clout is a woke outlets wet dream of course rollingstone would write a article
>>87199071only Holo deserves numbers, if Holo isn't getting numbers, me big mad, me piss and shit my pantaloons.
>retards on this board seethe when vtubers show their face but when someone comes along who actually gives a fuck about the medium and doesn't doxx herself and they still seethe that she won't post her faceIts almost like this board likes seething more than actually watching vtubers
>>87198132You guys think any of the Holo girls are like le le based right wingers or something? All of them are liberals at best, and besides, I thought you hated the phase girls for being hecking chud grifters anyway, so which one is it?
>>87199071if it's not their sect, they go into zealot mode. their world view shatters.
>>87195675holy shit you guys are hard coping to be inserting this dead corpo everywhere like this only other time i saw a meltdown like this was the when kurosanji EN yabbed out
>>87203442Most people, including the worst fanbase, mostly hang out in their generals. Catalogtards are a special breed. Many of them don't even watch vtubers.
>>87194963>Mori was in Rolling Stone tooTwice actually lol
>>87203042>in current article versionlollmao
>>87199071Nta but even as someone who likes mouse she 100% doesn't deserve to be the most subscribed twitch creator. Someone posted the video of like all of this shit that Kai does on stream and it's kinda crazy. Literally the other day the guy brought in a fucking horse on his stream into his place. He had his friends riding around on a horse indoors and I think it's an apartment too. Apparently during the 4th of July he bought like a shit ton of fireworks and literally lit them on stream in the middle of his place and ran out the door. He's done a lot of crazy shit on stream and he's losing his title to a girl who half the time is asleep on her streams, reacting to shit or singing the same songs she's sang a billion times.
The holobrony cries as he strikes you
>>87203763I don't think any vtuber deserves to overtake the title. Vtubing is a limited medium and there's only so much you can do as a vtuber. Like filian is probably the most envelope pushing vtuber out there and even then you don't really see shit happening like her getting on a horse in the middle of her stream
>>87203529Most of the Holos are low info voters that just go with the feels of the last week before election. Or worst considering they live in blue states or outside the US, they probably couldn't care less about voting.You shouldn't make politics your personality.
>>87203042>we hid the sources from you and deleted the information that was referenced>"oh that info must have come from heckin' russiarinos. thanks for saving me from doing my own factchecking"Why are Am*ricans so cucked?
>>87197723Music magazine. They also had war correspondents in the Vietnam and Iraq Wars who wrote really good books about their experiences (HBO’s Generation Kill was based on the latter). You’ll note that I mentioned them being around during the Vietnam War (1960s), and that should tell you that the prestige associated with getting an interview or article written about you from them far outstrips their actual relevance nowadays.
>>87194963The same flips downplaying mori are downplaying mousey kek.
>>87194963Is that what you call it when you push mori down a hill?
>>87203748>we should reward people for doing dangerous and illegal things
>>87204072Don't move the goalpost fag, Mouse isn't a communist because she talked to Hasan, hell Hasan ain't a fucking communist he's just a retarded grifter. And if you wanna talk politics and cucking how come your company would rather let China win and take Coco out because she showed the Taiwan word once instead of protecting her.
I like how shojotards seethe even when they're supposely winning because deep down even they know this is another L
>>87204448>isn't a communist>supports trans rightsKEKAROO caught in another lie you stupid IMcuck
>>87204448>moves goalposts>complain about someone else moving goalposts That’s not even touching how you’re lying about the whole China situation.
Why isn't Adin Ross helping us holochads?
>>87194905they don't mean if you're an actual person...
>>87204642>>87204761Look out everyone, Pedro is off his 3 day ban! He's going to get Kai Cenat to expose the evil IM for real this time, and the Vshojo jannies can't stop him! KEKAROO!
>>87204448>>87205285I genuinely think this bot is broken.
So it really is HOLOSEETHE then, okay. Well I dont hate your girls holoponies, it's just you guys, especially here, that make holo very annoying.
>>87205448He’s splitting his attention between here and /#/, had to hit the panic bots because he forgot Fauna was streaming and he doesn’t want her to win the EN tally.
>>87203298What the actual fuck, i can't believe this is real
>>87203748>as someone who likes mouse>who half the time is asleep on her streamsyou don't like mouse. she doesn't sleep outside of subathon with the exception of the single elden ring marathon. extremely basic fact no one who gives a fuck about her would perpetuate lies about
>>87205636do holofags really take pride on participating in the official SEA general of the board so much
>>87205938its a holo falseflagging its all they do
Lmao he posted the faggy video to the catalog. He's fucking BAWLING right now in his favela.
>>87201147is that real
>>87205999>not denying it
>>87205938I like mouse as a person her streams bore me to tears and I don't get how people regularly watch her since she rarely seems to read chat or donos from the few times I have watched her. I don't dislike her and I'm grateful she can get the life saving equipment she needs I just don't think that she deserves to be the top streamer
>>87204393We should reward people for creative efforts and doing things that others haven't before. Also you act like we haven't done that for years. Have you ever heard of a small little series called "Jackass"
>>87206124Yeah. Some random person probably gifted them a sub, and some Harris intern used it thinking it looked cool I guess
>>87206360Knoxville and Steve-O & co were all professional stuntmen and all of that shit was supervised. They weren't telling random homeless dudes to sit in a boat during the hurricane for money.
What is the appeal of mouse? I've watched a few of her streams, including ones where she doesn't sleep, and I guess I just don't get it...? She just seems kinda fucking dumb and boring, but has a cute model.
>>87206582>They weren't telling random homeless dudes to sit in a boat during the hurricane for money.That would be unironically funny. Because they probably would make Bam to also do the same and make it a competition. Sabotaging Bam in the background. ofc
>>87206255if you like her then why blatantly lie about something that's easily disprovenshe solo yaps with chat almost every stream for at least a couple of hours, like if you click on any day on twitchtracker it shows a timeline of streams that week and you can see when the just chatting segments are and how long they areit's fine if she's not to your taste because it's completely normal and fine as everybody has something different the prefer, just don't lie about what her streams are like because there's no need to do so
>>87206582>Professional stuntmen That's gotta be bait. They were just a bunch of 20 year olds high out of their minds with a camera. Almost the entirety of the first two movies is just them doing shit that nearly gets them killed.Also Aiden Ross isn't even a twitch streamer
>>87206724Bam is permab& from Jackass after his life fell apart due to drug use and never getting over Ryan Dunn's death. They tried to bring him back, but he had to maintain sobriety, which he didn't.
>>87194905> WTAF ??????? HOW !!Obviously you didn't read the tweet.
>>87206826Remember this from the start of every single episode?
>>87206934>supervisionthis is probably true but it doesn't mean that if a stuntman says "hey don't do this" they don't do it
>>87204448Cover literally killed their cn branch for coco and burned all chinese bridges by doing so, kys pagpag
Holobronies crying right now LMAO
>>87206934I'm fully aware of what they said but you can literally watch steve-os interviews where he talks about how half the time they were high out of their mind and doing things that were incredibly stupid and dangerous. The few times they had professionals were when they did things like swim with sharks and shit. MTV just saw dollar signs when they found out a bunch of dudes were recording their own stunts
>>87194963We hate Mori on this board so its okay.
>>87206255I actually sort of agree with you, Mouse has been coasting for years now, but I still think she deserved to win. And enough people agreed that she did win. That's all that really matters in the end, people like Mousey enough to give her a win despite all the boring streams.
>>87207279Well and every V tuber coasts to a certain degree There is a limited amount to what you can actually do in the field of Vtubing. Like I said I think the limits of that field are pushed a bit by people like filian but even then it's a lot different from what fleshies do and have done. Ishowspeed is another fleshy that's been on the rise and he's literally jumping over cars on stream, he's inviting Olympic athletes to race with him. He's touring countries and making friends everywhere he goes. You just can't do that as a vtuber
>>87197760>All Ironmouse needs to do is post an IRL picture of herself with all the supposed oxygen tanks and medical equipment or whatever to dispel all this. >anon will believe the picture and won't immediately declare it fake or not her
>>87194905I don't understand why ironmouse is as popular as she is. If you mention most popular vtubers I can understand why most of the time they are popular but I actually don't know why people like ironmouse cause she's never done anything crazy outstanding beyond just "being popular". That's her thing, she's popular, but like WHY is she popular, and how did she get so popular?I've never met someone IRL who watches ironmouse, and even when it comes to /here/ I've never heard of someone oshi'ing ironmouse. How can someone who can't fufill those two requirements be as popular as she seemingly is I genuinely don't get it
>>87206692she is a disabled woman, you are a bad person if you criticize or hate her
>>87208193Pittybait and ship spam
>>87208193>/here/ I've never heard of someone oshi'ing ironmouse.First, there's literally a general about her in which they will absolutely disagree with you.Second, having a low /here/ audience is literally better than having huge reliance on 4chan.
>>87203636>catalogtardsI wish. These are just seething /#/monkeys as usual.
80% GIFTED SUBS. SHOULDN'T COUNT
>>87203393Holo isn't on Twitch. Gifted subs shouldn't count.
>>87208696I keep calling the FTC to investigate this whore and they keep telling me to stop calling! Help me hologods!
>>87195993Gura isn't on Twitch, retard.
>>87203018>Normal people don't religiously watch streams liveThis is such a bizarre claim to make when you're on the side of the twitchfags who say that only livestreams matter and that nobody wants to watch VODs.Twitchfags believe that a well thought out 1 hour stream is awful compared to 24 hours of random aimless shit.
>>87208797>>87208696damn, might as well ban superchats and gifted memberships. After all, they only come from a tiny number of watchers.
>>87208552>Second, having a low /here/ audience is literally better than having huge reliance on 4chan.To wit, the number of phasecucks on this board vis a vis their real viewership size combined is alarming. At least Holofaggotry here makes sense.
>>87199350Well, watch Hololive then if you hate ot that muchIt's not like they're going anywhere
>>87203748Ye lets reward chimp out behaviour, like starting riots in New York.
>>87208958Yes, ban Youtube gifted memberships. Superchats? Why compare that to subs or YT members? They are different.
>>87203748Why doesn't Kai's fans just gift him memberships. The majority of mouses subs are gifted.
>>87209050That's called being based new york deserves to burn
>>87206582Also Jackass came with a giant do not try this at fucking home warning before every episode.
>>87209201because kai audience is mostly kids. Look the event he organized once. Only kids showed up (someone even died trampled in the crowd). Vtubers fans are mostly adults with jobs that can pay more.
>>87197725Crazy that some people on this board would rather believe conspiracy theories because # tells them that VShojo isn't actually popular
>>87209201Idk I don't watch him I just think he is a better representative of what should be rewarded on twitch.From what I've seen he seems like a chill dude who uses his money to do crazy and entertaining stuff for his audience. Vs mouse whose most daring idea is debuting another outfit a week after she got her last one
>>87209201They did during his subathon, according to the stats it was 180,047.>>87208991Well, I've always thought most of Phase's community has come within a weird mixture of Hololive's more scandalous fanbase back in the day (I'm talking really early in the game), most of which were users of 4chan and farmers, so when Pippa was their icon of being "based', they jumped ship.
>>87209201They DO, and they DID when he took the record from Ludwig. He was doing a subathon at the time. Just like when Ludwig did a subathon before. The only one of the top subbed streamers who didn't do it via subathon was Ninja but he got all his from Prime subs which was a brand new thing at the time and he milked the fuck out of it.
>>87209433He let a girl get raped in his house then ran cover for the monkey that raped her. What a great guy!
>>87209538>Well, I've always thought most of Phase's community has come within a weird mixture of Hololive's more scandalous fanbaseI mean, I already knew that. We all knew that.
>>87209433>What should be rewardedThis is the kinda thing that people on here would prefer to buy into because of the VShojo hate. The man got a handjob live on stream in front of 100k viewers during his subathon. https://x.com/HydraSZN/status/1628431925147992065
one of the few things that gets me up in the morning is the day the entire internet turns on her when she is exposed as a fraud and a charlatan
>>87203748Does anyone forgot that ironmouse suppose to donate 50% of her gift subs to charity. So she need to slash 50% out of 300k gift subs.
>>8720981650% of everything including merch,bits and direct donations.
>>87209816Not quite. 30% will go to Twitch before it even goes to her. 50% of that will go to charity. Assuming an average $5 per sub payout, there is going to be $1.63m involved, $489k of which stays with Twitch, leaving ~1.15 or so to Mouse, splitting ~$570k to Mouse and ~$570k to charity. Assuming $5 per. It'll probably be less than that due to subtember having a lot of deals going on for subs for packages and such, with the gift subs (coming from Valorant money) bringing it back up slightly. The real total to charity should be somewhere between $456k to $570k. Regardless of what amount, a lot of scratch going to a good cause.
>>87209710>>87209593 Based
>>87199071>numbermonkeythe "muh numbermonkey" seethe is just a cope. what do you think these women are working for? your smiles? fucking mark.it's views and subs, which are MONEY. Money given by actual people. Money and views means that people support you. Numbers are important,a chuuba can't live on fucking 4chan posts defending her honor. Retard.
>>87209710>>87209593As I said before I don't actually watch him regularly, I know almost nothing about him outside of the fact that he's actually congratulated her and been a pretty fair sport about it. He doesn't really seem to understand vtubers and I don't exactly blame himThat being said, I do think that the creative efforts that he goes through in order to actually promote his dreams and actually do stuff on stream to both entertain himself and his chat are fairly valid and do deserve rewarding from time to time. I do think that that's something that you can't do as a vtuber and I don't think that It matters what company you're from or whatever, I just don't think that a vtuber should be #1
>>87210677>what do you think these women are working for? your smiles?only in hololive
>>87210108Still better than anything holo has done
>>87194905>Critics are questioning whether she's legitGood, I hope they mention like 90% of her subs are gifts from the same mysterious couple people and just because you can't on the surface prove it's some ultra-rich ultra-samefagging tryhard sponsor, doesn't mean that's not what it very-obviously looks like.
>>87210677>the "muh numbermonkey" seethe is just a cope.>FUCK THEY KNOW GOTTA DEFLECT!>>87210831Haven't they done big charity things before? My Holo knowledge is limited because I don't watch fake whores, only legit ones.
>>87210924They have never made any kind of significant donation to charity.
>>87211215Didn't Ame do one right before she left? And I swear they got over 100k once doing some kind of relay or collab charity. Was a few years ago though.
>>87194905>most subscribed twitch>is a raid baby>needed charity streamsSomething isn't adding up. Also false flagging Mousey fan.
>>87211254That was pocket change for a massive corpo.
>>87211415I wasn't referring to Cover or Hololive in general but the talents. I know they probably can't do much or any charity work without clearing it from great Japanese overlords, but when it comes down to it charities aren't about what Cover does but what the talents can coax from the audience to donate. That's the fun of it. The talents are facilitators of audience financial dick measuring.
>>87194905not holo, not youtubem -> not care
can't understand how this turn to holo vs IM. 2 complete platform with no overlap fanbase, holochad don't have reason to give any effort on hating her.
>>87206934The network put that there, you know what came before Jackass? Camp Kill Yourself, and that was Bam and friends, and Bam nowadays says all of modern Jackass is shite, and sure he's an asshole and a meme, but he is a little bit right about how the whole thing is hypocrisy.
>>87207042And now, they are back there like nothing happened, well, except for China who remembers and didn't give a fuck about Kubo being there. So much for "support" for Coco.
>>87212871And yet they do, all the time, if you're such chads why are you so mad about this crippled woman so much? It don't even make sense, Mousey is friends with lots of holos.
>>87194963fpbp>>87203653/thread
>>87213350> Mousey is friends with lots of holos.false>s why are you so mad about this crippled woman so much?because you spam this board all the time, also she is not crippled.
>>87212871walk into /vsj+/ or /mouse/ and ask with sincerity how they feel about holo. you're going to probably see "I watch them sometimes", "don't care", or some flavour of "like the talents, hate the corpo/structure". but the one thing I can guarantee you'll get is "the fans are fucking awful"the hate, baitposting, and doxxing is almost entirely one-sided and it's so blatant. she speaks positively of holo whenever they're mentioned, she's friends/acquaintances with multiple, there's no fucking reason for holofans to be shitting on mouse besides her also doing well... but there's room for everybody to do well, the hostility makes no sense. they have to lie and pretend she does shit she doesn't and come up with "reasons" she's fake which are easy to debunk to justify their behaviour, it's genuinely pathetic. I cheer for holo talents when they have a fun time or do a great job because it brings happiness to everybody, why can't the other side be supportive as well?
>Questions if she's really crippled>Deflects to vtubing is being attacked!>Questions whether her subs are legit because 99 % of it is gifted>Deflects to vtubing is being attacked!typical mouse behavior.
>>87213657She is friends with Mori and has collabed with her, what do you hate Mori now for that? And she has an illness, it's chronic fag, not terminal, she's been clear about, many times.
>>87214060Sorry your thread got deleted again Pedro.
>>87213842You're a vshojo fan and it shows. You faggots call hololive talents whores almost any time they get posted, and no, saying "but we like whores!!" is not a defense.
>>87213842This, a hundred percent this, it's the fucking holobronies faggots that really are the problem, not the talents. And for what reason? Why do they want to create that rift anyway?
>>87213842who is "they">one sided??? everyone gets hate bait and dox, if snything holos hey it the most
>>87214155But it's not vshojo fans doing it. Vshojo pretty much has the best most well behaved fanbases around.
>>87213842>holo never got hate, baitposting, and doxxing on 4chan>all IM hate, baitposting, and doxxing post are from real unironic holo fan.
>>87214197both are true
>>87214103> Mousey is friends with lots of holos.>can only give one exampleThe worst thing of all is that they are not friends, the fact that they have done a couple of collaborations does not count.That's business and nothing more.I also see that you don't deny that you spam the board, moron.
>>87198542don't nootice just consoom
>>87214197look man wheter its falseflaggers, or numberfags which you swear dont reflect the average holofan, it doesnt matter, youre fucking asholes, to indies, to others, to your talents, and to everyone in general, and what for? to have control of a board on fucking 4chinz? Get over yourself you self-important cretins.
>>87214221You're not fooling anyone, vhojocuck.
>>87213842>the hate, baitposting, and doxxing is almost entirely one-sided and it's so blatant.You faggots openly posts holodox on twitter.
>>87214279newfag, you guys started it.
>>87214258Ollie, Kiara, Bae, Nerissa, Chammers, AT MINIMUM. Get fucked retard
>>87214279>it's doesn't matter if it true but i will base my entire projection on this as if it 100% true.if you want to know what the true is go to holotalent general and ask. most give up on catalog and just stay in talent general. hell most block all catalog.
>>87213842>walk into /vsj+/ or /mouse/I did it and you are the most pathetic sad cucks ever.
>>87214330Oh my God he's still crying about that one Twitter nobody... how embarrassing! We all saw the thread holobronies posted earlier by the way. The same link you post in every /#/?
>>87214382(me)*if it false
>>87214365>ChammersWas the point of this post to make it look like none of these people are her friends? If so, you've succeeded.
>>87214182and who said it was them you drooling retard
>mfw i thought it was the band>it turns out its some literally who website lol
>>87214410you know where this is? this is 4chan, everyone is anonymous mf. how the fuck do you know who is who?
>>87213842>some retard shits up your thread with a Gura img>"l-look ids teh howobwonies!!"fucking kek
>>87214279its just you and ur groomers anon you can stop trying
>>87194905I thought this said shes 40Anyway dustycrypt news only slightly late to the party
>>87214410>We all saw the thread holobronies posted earlier by the way.You mean the thread where you said you TOTALLY don't care about clip (therefore it's most likely not dox in your mind) and that you don't have a pocket janny just before he swooped in to delete the thread?You faggots post literal dox of hololive members and you cannot even deny it. The faggot even deleted the tweet afterwards because just like I said, he's literally from here. I might as well call him you.
>>87214433Rolling Stone magazine has been around since the 60s, how third world are you?
>>87195882She is a 2view nobody shitterEverything about this is manufactured she has like 1000 real subs
>>87214365>Ollie, Kiara, Bae, Nerissa, Chammers,only one collaboration for each one, they don't even count as friends.Furthermore you mentioned only five out of seventy.No, the best thing is that you didn't even mention the only one that counts.
>>87214470yea turn out you just need to have a holo meme and you represent holobrony. anyway, IM fan should worry more about the normie hate since those are more public than this place.
>>87214141we don't default to whore as an insult, vshojo talents collab with men and no one gives a fuck so why would we use whore towards someone else? if I was going to use it on someone it would be one of those indies that does nothing but asmr>>87214155the shitty holofans here. I'm sure there are fine ones but they probably don't leave their respective generals. I don't know how much dox holos get because I don't go into holo bait threads (why would I when I don't know enough about them for it to be entertaining), I know that mouse gets it constantly and it can take hours to get deleted on some days if the janny on shift doesn't care or the board is busy with something else>>87214197didn't say "all" but I think the vast majority comes from /#/ (which is mostly holo fans) and that's not unfounded when pictures used for bait threads often appear there first before on the catalog>>87214279100% agree with you, the cruelty towards their own talents is terrible and is frankly worse than hate towards other vtubers outside of holo because they're supposed to be supportive but instead they're just assholes
They are absolutely melting down, it's incredible! It's just like >>87213842 said!
>>87214536Yes and they are a nobody.> how third world are you?RENT FREE
>>87214588>we don't default to whore as an insultInteresting angle. It's still an insult though so you are indeed shitting on holos. Why do you hate them so much?
>>87214591SAMEFAG
pretty sure she's been on rolling stone before
>>87214588/#/ get a rep of holo anti you morron. holo culture is anti compare the most and what is /#/ doing all day? you get shit on in every holo comunity if you try compare holo number, but obviously doing it here mean you are holofan. dumb af mf
If you don't like vshojo you are a shitty holofan. Noel is literally a camwhore so you have no excuse to not hate her while hating vshojo.
>>87194963Who is "you guys"?
>>87214606>one of the most famous magazines in America is nobody Cope.>RENT FREE>>I'VE BEEN FOUND OUT*fixed
>I accuse them of spam the board>Nobody even dares to deny it.
>>87214674/#/ loves holo and chooses their rankings based on which one puts holo at the top. They stopped posting superchat rankings when hololive lost to luxiem and switched to CCV where holo used to lose to nijiJP
>>87214692Any news source is only worth as much as its readers
>>87194905Pretty sure there are retards out there who think all vtubers are AI or something
>>87194905aren't most of the subs just gifted from her biggest paypigs?
>>87214711>look look im pretending to not know english ok xD
>>87214692>>one of the most famous magazines in America is nobodylol, no one knows what this shit is
>>87214279>>87214588This is a Holoboard. Most of the other threads are just here to amusement of shitpost in there.
It's because nobody wants to dignify your faggy drivel with a response, Pedro.
>>87214674# are holofans who hate global holofans and who global holofans hate. The real secret about this board is that it is pretty much entirely real holofans and you are fighting each other and blaming nijisanji fans, as if chinese middle schoolers can even write english.
>>87214760lmao you still don't dare to deny it.
>>87214761I see why you'd think that, they shut down their Indonesian branch in 2018.
>>87214623if I was trying to insult a holo I wouldn't use whore, but I don't want to because there's nothing wrong with holo talents. I don't like the company structure but I hold no animosity towards the people that work for them because there's no reason to>>87214762well yeah, that's obvious
>>87214740doesn't care, they're not welcome anywhere else, and they're chased into this cesspool. what else can you do to disown the bad apple? they are trending fan. so you chose the part that is minority to represent a community?
>>87214827lmao free rent
>>87214873>I've been found out
>>87214779this board didn't have shit. if you have enough time to shitpost instead of watching you oshi live or vod, you no real fan.
>>87214895nope
>>87214828>if I was trying to insult a holo I wouldn't use whoreSure. You also call them things like fake whore though.>but I don't want to because there's nothing wrong with holo talents/vsj+/ doesn't agree with you.>I hold no animosity towards the people that work for them because there's no reason toBut you hate their fans and by extension them.
Hey holofags, how do you feel about Dooby? She's gonna be a full time twitch streamer soon you know? I hope you watch her. After all, it's the people that make the company, not the company itself...
Okay but why the fuck do IMfags hate holofags, and even holo so muchwhenever I go into these catalog threads it's inexplicably vsj vs holo because ????I thought there'd be no reason for enmity anymore what with the problem whores leaving vsj
>>87214920Are you having a mental breakdown?
>>87214759>>87194905Its kinda funny to me how nobody acknowledges how incredibly shitty it is of her to beg for subs as charity donationsShe gets less than half of that money and its main purpose is inflating her channelThis isnt "donate to charity" this is "give twitch money"
>>87214868Does this logic apply to other communities besides the hololive fanbase or its only when convenient? Does it apply to nijisanji fans? Phase?
>>87214899>if you have enough time to shitpost instead of watching you oshi live or vod>the newfag doesn't know that you can do both things at the same timeLMAO
>>87214935Because you nonstop shit on Mouse?
>>87214961Nope. Are you? It seems like you can't handle getting called a hater.
>>87214921>After all, it's the people that make the company, not the company itselfDo you know that there are still like sixty talents?
>>87214983so it's a victim/persecution complex, got it.explains the bait catalogfaggotry too
>>87214920wish I'd saved a link to the last time someone asked vsj's opinion on holos because it was literally just my first post up thread. that's why I said it, those were the replies to the question "what are your thoughts on holo". no one was called a whore, the only whore in vshojo or hololive is melody and we like that for her>>87214935holo is fine. their fans are terrible. that's the problem here. holofans hate mousefans AND mouse, mousefans hate holofans but don't hate the talents
>>87214983>Because you nonstop shit on Mouse?yeah, only when you guys spam the board.
>>87214963If you call it shitty it's ok because she's giving to charity, and if you point out the 50% it's ok because it was never meant to be a charity event.
>>87214935>Okay but why the fuck do IMfags hate holofagsDid you see the reaction when Ironmouse's channel got terminated? Probably because of that.
>>87215059>holofans hate mousefans AND mouse, mousefans hate holofans but don't hate the talentsYes, thanks for showing that you are human garbage.
>>87214963oh so i was right then? It's just a bunch of gifted subs from her hardcore paypigs. Glad you cleared that up for me anon thanks!
>I am supposed to look at this thread and, with 100% sincerity, I am supposed to believe that all holofans aren't terrible people Kekaroo?
>>87215065its one fucking thread faggot, probably made by holoponies themsenselves anyway
>>87215100or when she wins an award. or when she has a big event that does well. you don't see mouse fans shitting their pants over huge holo concerts because widespread acceptance of vtubers is good for everybody
>>87215059Are you aware this is a board made by and for holofans? Don't like it, take it with /jp/ and their whiny bitches.
>>87215144They are a bunch of shitting, seething faggots. But if you say that they say oh no, its the numberfags, they arent regular holofans. Whatever, to me, youre all the same bitches.
>>87215059I honestly don't care what responses your thread has to a post like that when it's such an obvious "let's all look the best we can" moment.Here's one of your friends just casually calling Marine a fake whore >>85279990I'm sure you already have an explanation for why this is actually a positive post and not an insult.
>>87215068Thats just sad across the boardEither way spending a month begging for subs has one clear purpose: artificially boosting her channelThis is like legal view botting
>>87215100>Did you see the reaction when Ironmouse's channel got terminated?Yes, it was when you lied the reason why this happened and spam the board with this stupidity.
>>87194905>current year>referencing rolling stone magazineDisgusting!
>>87214964yes. but as i see they are very welcome in open space like twitter and facebook. this place have the least credibility
>Holokeks shitfling on every thread about a vtuber without a blue dorito>They get shit back>”B-But why don’t you like me”
>>87215148nope>>87215162Yes, when this happened is when you guys spammed the board
>>87215163The first real VTuber was kizuna ai, bitch, and before her, Aki Ross, and before her Reiko, Reiko Nagase you newfag casual bitch.
>>87215272Whenever le evil holofags don't shit on non-holos you call it begging, so you don't really leave any options open.
>>87215272>>Holokeks shitfling on every thread about a vtuber without a blue doritofalse>>87215291Stupid newfag, don't talk.
>>87215291Why wasn't the board made when Kizuna Ai showed up?
>>87215206I don't, I think it's shitty to say that and it's not an insult I personally use. I'm sure you could give other examples of it happening but look at the larger trend. most times hololive talents are called whores it's in your own generals it's when it's got something to do with male collabs which are a non issue in vshojo and the indie scene because it's normalized>>87215290yeah man I sure love spamming the board and giving haters reasons to post doxx. I love giving them an excuse to be assholes to the streamer I like boy howdy
>>87215341You weren't even born before Reiko Nagase and the concept of "virtual idols" existed, bitch.
>>87215291Doesn't matter this board and its culture was made because the holofans.
>>87215272>shit on not blue dorito>shit on holo talent>it's all holofaghow about it's dramafag who just like to shit on anyone? look at catalog right now and you alr see fwmc bait thread, biboo bait thread. and don't forget yesterday ina bait spam. holy shit does all vsj fag all retard.
>>87215403>deflectionI just showed that you vtrannies hate hololive members. Stop running away and own it.
>>87215415if it is make by holo culture, /#/ would get nuke long ago. you can't deny number compare is the biggest sin in holo community since 4 years ago.
>>87215403>yeah man I sure love spamming the board and giving haters reasons to post doxx. I love giving them an excuse to be assholes to the streamer I like boy howdyThank you for confirming that I was right.>It was sarcasm!!!Yes and you failed to do that.
>>87215214>Yes, it was when you lied the reason why this happened and spam the board with this stupidity.Thanks for supporting my statement. Vshojofags in those threads explained perfectly what happened and certainly didn't bake these threads celebrating both of her channels getting terminated but retards like you were still participating and are now trying to retroactively twist the explanations that were given.
>>87215448>>87214868Some wisdom from your comrade.
>>87215404redditor, do you know what a board is?
>>87215448you gave me one example, I'm not asking for another but I'm asking you to look at the bigger picture. two weeks from now when everyone has forgotten this bait thread I'll go ask and then save the post as proof, it's happened a few times and every single time insults have been rare and the criticism is directed at the corporate structure
>>87215352Pretty sure it's made in 2020 when /jp/ can't handle the extra volume. Then the meidos there said vtubers don't have to be contained to a few generals. The board then got filled with vtuber threads and that pissed everyone off.
>>87215477>Vshojofags in those threads explained perfectlyYes, that's called lying.
>>87215515Do you even know who Reiko is without googling it you fag?
>>87215562They were right and you lost.
>>87215517There's another post in this very thread calling holo as a whole "fake whores". It seems like a common trend among you vtrannies.
>>87215560Yes but it was worse than you described.
>>87215457So in the end, it all comes down to the jealousy of not being able to play in the cage with the others. Take your problem with them directly instead.Perhaps if you sperg enough they will ultimately ban that thread along with your whiny ass.
>>87215588uh huh sure bud
>>87215560>The board then got filled with vtuber threadsIt was specifically filled with holoEN threads.
>>87215573No, but thanks for confirming that you are a redditor.>>87215584No and I didn't lose anything, in fact I won.
>>87215610Why are you acting like it didn't happen when it literally did?
>>87215637>holoEN threadslmao you are a newfag.
>>87215588>>87215499
>>87215648>No and I didn't lose anything, in fact I won.Cope more retard.
And the ponyboard was made was made because of too much pony spam in /co/, you fags, I bet you didn't even know that's why you're called holobronies, because you are butch the offshoot of brony spam. And even the brony board is more well behaved that you are. You give the bronies a worst name by association.
https://youtu.be/ViWqb64ZRm8?si=WCvzCfLJz3TesLTOIt's funny to see the newfags talking about the history of this board.
holobronies big mad again...
>>87215693you're extrapolating. how about this, in a few weeks go into some holo generals and ask their opinions of vshojo and then we'll compare? it's easy to falseflag in bait threads but far less likely to happen in normal generalsthere's your homework, I plan on doing it regardless for future reference
>>87215607the fuck do you mean? the problem is you moron look at a small cage in a cesspool and say this is represent the whole community with a 1.3M member subreddit. maybe /#/ look huge compare you your tiny ass community but holo is the biggest vtuber community WORLD WISE. they are nothing.
>>87215711Why do you keep doing this? You vtrannies clearly dislike hololive talents.
>>87215713>muh CopeYes, I already won this argument.>>87215716>spam in /co/,>only /co/newfag
>>87215827Ive been here since 2008 and that was already considered a newfag, when did you join, holopony?
>>87215210>people watching and donating>artificially
>vshojocucks seethingkek
>>87215782Why are hololive fans obligated to like vshojo?
>>87215792We don’t. Even if they tweet at their male coworkers or collab with them!
>>87215889Lmao no one believes you, stupid newfag.
>>87215913Yeah you do. You even post holo dox on twitter.
>>87215906they're not, but will holofans call vshojo whores more than vshojofans call holo talent whores? I think we both know the answer to that already but proof would be nice and so I plan on getting it
>>87215913ok cuck,everyone knows you guys hate fuwamoco.
>>87215942And they are obsessed with Holostars cock, whats up with that?
>>87215952>they're not, but will holofans call vshojo whores more than vshojofans call holo talent whores?So they are obligated to like them. Why are you so bothered over holo fans calling your whores whores?
>>87215952
>>87215716Nobody cares about ponies, even their own fans disallowed them to this day.>>87215784Again, you are just jealous that the other browns don't let you play with their toys. This board was made for the specific culture of holofans that frequent this site. Stop being disingenuous. Want something different? simply, you can just go back.
>the rat wins something>the thread only talks about hololiveHoloboard baby!
>>87216016>Why are you so bothered over holo fans calling your whores whores?Ask this guy, he got oneguyed>>87215588
>>87215716Why are you posting on the brony board if this is the board for that?
>>87216016nah, you keep saying I said things I didn't because you can't comprehend that I don't think every woman I don't care about is a whore so I think we're done here. I'll be getting that proof though so see you in a bait thread a month from now I guess
>>87216117>oneguyed
>>87212871There’s a schizo on /#/ who shits on HoloEN while using Ironmouse images. Really hates Fauna, IRyS, and Shiori.
>>87216117What does that post have to do with vshojo whores getting called whores?
>>87216110HOLOSEETHE, indeed
>>87213233B2 came back begging for foreigners they previously fucked with to come back because their homegrown talents are flops. You’ll notice they also sell Vshojo merch, including Kson.
>>87216129I do actually, like I said, much more well behaved than holoponies are.
>>87216220
>>87216130>you can't comprehend that I don't think every woman I don't care about is a whoreWhat the fuck is this about? You just went from talking about the vtranny thread to talking about yourself. This was never about you personally.>see you in a bait thread a month from now I guessI'll be seeing you in just a few hours because you just magically post in EVERY SINGLE "bait" thread for no apparent reason that you totally didn't make yourself.
>>87216285lmao you are a newfag.
>>87216285But why are you on the brony board? You are also a brony if the content you like belongs here.
>>87215457can you learn english please? Fucking hell
>>87216371if you can't understand what i write then maybe you should learn english more.
>>87215935The fact that you didn't dare to respond to me when I said this confirms to me that you are a newfag.
>>87216248The best b2 talents reached millions of followers, meanwhile, this is the best you can do with active pandering. Really, not even 100k subscribers?
>>87216415Yes, because holofans use YouTube.
>>87216415Fun fact: B2 metrics are based on the social credit score of their audience, they don’t bring in as much money as the numbers suggest. Also, China is on the verge of entering its own Lost Decade, B2 knows they need foreigners to survive.
>>87216415Not beating the allegations of /#/-monkeys resentful because they can't play in the cage.
It's funny how in these threads the IMcucks always lose.
>>87216504You really can’t take your shitflinging back, eh?
>>87216415Hell, here is Neuro, an indie that pandered even less that Kubo, and in two months of being there, she already has almost 700k, will probably reach a million there way before your numberfagging BauBau's get to it in the west, what happened there?
>>87216489Social credit isn't even a thing for individual citizens.
>>87215990I remember when Ironmouse was looking at some categories from an award show, one of which was a category for channels who are operated by multiple people and most of the chat was posting "Bau Bau". I thought some Vshojofans have a persecution complex but I guess that's true for Holofans too.
>>87216586nta but you literally proved that the other anon is right.
>>87194905not to shittalk too much, but I honestly don't see the appeal.I mean of the top streamers, if you told me it was Filian I would believe you. If it was Mori? Sure. if it was Shylily, then okay.But what exactly is the appeal. Her X-Factor seems to be charity, and I don't really understand why normies love charity so much. Maybe I need to tap into the Charity meta.
>>87216637>thought some Vshojofans> somelmao
>>87216643Your own medicine never tastes good.
>>87216690I also forgot to add that your argument is literally "no u", stupid newfag.
I don't care about this IM vs Holo shitflinging I just don't watch her because of her association with Connor, who I hate because of his association with Trash Taste, who I hate because they're ironic weeb faggots who are the worst part of the western jp media fandom.Also cause pic related, not into sleep or react streams and that's all that airs when I have free time (I'm sure her actual vshojo box content and gameplay is fine unironically however)sincerly, a VSPOfag cum V4Miraifag
>>87216711>no ulmao stupid newfag
>>87216749Her subathon is over so you won't see her sleeping anymore.
>>87216749I think I saw this exact comment, just without the last part.
>>87215716and /jp/ was made because of 2hu spam on /a/ and /v/.
>>87216793lmao you didn't even read the post.
>>87216851true
To be honest if vshofags want to play with the other browns, they just need to compile their own data and post it. Even as much as I hate the /#/-fags, at least I give to them to put the minimum effort in their graphs and tables and tracking and such.
>>87216860>Also cause pic related, not into sleep streams and that's all that airs when I have free timeYeah I did and I'm pointing out that is not a problem outside of her doing a subathon.
>vtuber outside of hololive or nijisanji gets extremely popular>holofags and nijinigs both attack them and use any excuse to dicredit their popularity
>>87216588It does not count because uh, uhh, because fuck you are, alright, cause uuuh. Holo reigns supreme!
>>87216936That's not true, Filian was never attacked.
>>87216953>The moron was forced to samefag because no one cared about thislmao
>>87216832in this thread?cause I tried posting it but it didn't show up for some reason.
>>87216936Its almost exclusively holobronies, nijisisters already accepted their fates. Only loyal indonesian holofags stand strong. And not for long...
>>87217061>in this thread?No, it's been a long time since I saw this post.
>>87216973>anon notices the inconsistencies in the victimhood narrativeshut it down
>>87217081holoid had zero graduations since its creation btw
>>87216936Can you point me to holobronies and nijifans attacking all the JP indies who are more popular than AIDSrat?
>>87216973You remember her copyright issue and the catalogue spam? But that was never holofags. I know a false flag when I see it.
>>87217162This lmao. You'd expect Holofags to go after Karubi, Gosegu, Chiroru, or Patra if hegemony was all they cared about
>>87216973She was when her nendoroid got cancelled because people didn't know the model didn't even belong to her and that she didn't even buy it.
>>87217212>if anything bad happens it's the holofags faultif it wasn't for vtubers you'd fit right in with the nutjobs in /pol/
>>87217212>her copyright issueAre you referring to when she wanted to sell a design that was not hers?Yes, that was not an attack.
>>87217278>criticize=attacksnowflake
Okay someone explain to me how these rratmancers are pinning all of the shit Filian (rightfully) got on HolofagsWhile there are a lot of them, probably a majority, I wouldn't call every vtuberfag a holofag, and neither would I think they'd be calling out what Filian did in the name of holo or *insert corp here*
>>87217284>>87217288>>87217314see >>87216031
Don't forget to follow mousey and donate plasma
>>87217350Holoboard.
>>87217355retard, the onus is on you to prove that every single controversy involving another non-holo vtuber is instigated by the hololive fanbase.It's an extraordinary claim after all so extraordinary evidence is in orderas it is it just seems like a persecution complex married with holofags living rent free in your head
>>87217355lmao cope,she was never attacked.
>>87217350Only holofags care about the feelings of some shitty artists and their retarded agreements.
>>87217450>anyone who has ever cared about copyright is a holofagholy NUMBERShololive winning bigly
>>87217416Didn't read.>>87217442She was.
>>87217450sorry, but you lost.cuck
>>87217481Didn't read.
>>87217382It's okay when Hololive does it so by extension it's okay when Holochads do it.
>holocucks trying so hard not to be insufferable challenge>FAILED CONSTANTLYHoloshit will be holoshit, and they breed the most toxic kind of bronies, holobronies
The only people that actually attacked Filian were indie trannies who probably like vshojo. Everyone was just having fun laughing at her fucking up and they tried to make it all about racism and other unrelated shit.
>>87217538Of course.
Hololive more like HOLOSHART
>>87217518>vshojocuck seething
>>87217664HOLOSEETHE
>>87217715>no u
>>87203636>>87208604>talk shit about catalogfags, while being in a catalog thread???
vshoujoufags are malding because their corpo is insignificant compared to hololive
>>87214740Rankings are posted by individuals anon, SC ranking stopped getting posted because the anon that was posting them got into a fucking accident.At the same time merch anon found an exploit to get us merch numbers for a few months and it was so much more higher than anyone could have expected.After Coco graduated, Hololive moved on to full on merch focus, and SCs stopped being a flex and more something you use to do bantz with the chuuba.
>>87214279like oshi like fan I guess
>>87214692I don't live in America retard, why would anyone outside your country give a shit about what's famous there?
>>87217882Nice excuses. Literally anyone could open up the SC rankings and it had never anything to do with a single person.
> Ctrl + F /#/> 14 matchesMOST
>>87217936kek
>>87211254Yeah, she raised almost half the money Ironmouse gave to charity in two and a half hours.
Who?