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>>87213126>>87213303Probably for the best. Chumbud here and I dislike the current state of Hololive that's moving on without considering Gura as essential component of it anymore. Time to liberate the chumbies, they've been prisoners for so long.
https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1844618936870109376https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1844618936870109376https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1844618936870109376Hololive Friends Meet
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *>67,925: Luna (Hololive)>59,994: Miko (Hololive)>41,642: Pekora (Hololive)>28,206: Subaru (Hololive)>27,297: Hololive DEV_IS (Hololive)>26,400: Toto (VSPO)>25,867: Fubuki (Hololive)>23,659: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>21,719: Mio (Hololive)>19,156: Pekora (Hololive)>16,382: Lauren (Nijisanji)>16,167: Towa (Hololive)>15,204: Noel (Hololive)>13,352: Fuwamoco (Hololive)>13,024: Korone (Hololive)>11,975: Kiara (Hololive)>11,121: Kanata (Hololive)>10,892: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>>87218228They just released on global, so time for a second round of fanart
*YESTERDAY’S EN COPE TALLY OF THE DAY*>10/10 TALLY (1.000 - 4.999)4.764: Gigi (Hololive) | 7 Days to Die HoloEN Collab4.562: Dokibird (Indie) | Liar's Bar w/ ChilledChaos, Ellum, Sykkuno4.255: Shiori (Hololive) | 7 Days to Die HoloEN Collab3.668: Cecilia (Hololive) | 7 Days to Die HoloEN Collab3.475: Shu (Nijisanji) | Fast Food Simulator w/ Luca, Ren, Sonny3.025: Dokibird (Indie) | Deadlock Tournament2.158: Pippa (Phase-Connect) | Content Warning w/ Jelly, Michiru, Uruka1.902: Millie (Nijisanji) | Ethyria 3rd Anniversary Collab1.818: Uruka (Phase-Connect) | Violin Karaoke Stream1.772: Luca (Nijisanji) | Fast Food Simulator w/ Ren, Shu, Sonny1.716: Vantacrow (Nijisanji) | Five Nights at Freddy's1.575: Enna (Nijisanji) | Ethyria 3rd Anniversary Collab1.492: Shu (Nijisanji) | Coffee Talk Episode 2: Hibiscus & Butterfly1.336: Uruka (Phase-Connect) | Content Warning w/ Jelly, Michiru, Pippa1.278: Rexford (Holostars) | TCG Card Shop Simulator1.212: Wilson (Nijisanji) | Silent Hill 21.184: Bettel (Holostars) | Happy's Humble Burger Farm1.175: Reimu (Nijisanji) | Apex Legends w/ Alban1.142: Nene (kawaii) | ASMR Stream1.085: Ren (Nijisanji) | Fast Food Simulator w/ Luca, Shu, Sonny
shark doko?
>>87217815Moona doesn't seem to care about streaming all that much, she probably makes more money doing these types of work
>>87218343OCTOBER 2024 GOLD>1) 122,380: Ame (Hololive) Final stream [19]>2) 57,651: Miko (Hololive) TCG Card Shop Simulator [27]>3) 32,628: Pekora (Hololive) TCG Card Shop Simulator [20]>4) 50,864: Miko (Hololive) TCG Card Shop Simulator [19]>5) 117,346: Fubuki (Hololive) 3DLive>6) 77,935: Marine (Hololive) Marine-Ui Clubhouse Games 51 >7) 85,290: Pekora (Hololive) PekoMari mocopi w/AZKi>8) 59,253: Pekora (Hololive) PekoShion drinking+shinri test >9) 66,875: Pekora (Hololive) Pekora-Noel off-collab Ichiban Kuji >10) 67,925: Luna (Hololive) Birthday 3DLive> PER COMPANY10x: Hololive> PER STREAMER4x: Pekora2x: Miko1x: Ame, Fubuki, Marine, Luna
>>87218363(me)Fuck, I meant the story chapter they featured in, not the characters themselves. They're still not playable
thoughts?
>>87218387OCTOBER 2024 SILVER>1) 79,262: Korone (Hololive) Bday + Gyakutotsu + New outfit>2) 37,935: Ex Albio (Nijisanji) NIJISANJI Extreme Match / VALORANT>3) 28,681: Subaru (Hololive) TCG Card Shop Simulator>4) 45,788: Miko (Hololive) Holomem family tree + announcement>5) 42,849: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Reverse totsu 1mil celebration stream>6) 54,572: Miko (Hololive) TCG Card Shop Simulator >7) 44,511: Miko (Hololive) TCG Card Shop Simulator >8) 52,966: Miko (Hololive) TCG Card Shop Simulator >9) 53,633: Miko (Hololive) TCG Card Shop Simulator >10) 59,994: Miko (Hololive) TCG Card Shop Simulator > PER COMPANY9x: Hololive1x: Nijisanji > PER STREAMER6x: Miko1x: Korone, Ex Albio, Subaru, Fuwa
>>87218366>>87218331Ameway graduate soon. Predict how much the decline of HoloEN after.
>>87218023I was here the day before vt was created. Lurked in /a a long time ago.
>>87218363>>87218403Ah, ok. I thought maybe they had been released as playable characters. There's so much new art, it's great.
>>87218412OCTOBER 2024 BRONZE>1) 62,569: Sendo (VSPO) 3D reveal>2) 36,944: Pekora (Hololive) Dead Rising Deluxe Remaster>3) 28,354: Bae (Hololive) FULL METAL ALCHEMIST KARAOKE>4) 28,038: Beni (VSPO) VSPO GODFIELD>5) 32,375: Fubuki (Hololive) TCG Card Shop Simulator >6) 50,953: Pekora (Hololive) Pekora-AZKi off-collab cooking stream >7) 31,943: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Valorant>8) 28,114: Hajime (Hololive) Clubhouse Games 51 w/Noel>9) 28,798: Mumei (Hololive) Promise anniversary collab>10) 41,642: Pekora (Hololive) Pekora-Koyori off-collab karaoke> PER COMPANY2x: VSPO7x: Hololive1x: Nijisanji> PER STREAMER2x: Pekora1x: Sendo, Bae, Beni, Fubuki, Pekora, Kuzuha, Hajime, Mumei
>>87218341nene fubuki and miko? also, meets who?
OCTOBER 2024 HIGHLANDER>1) 122,380: Ame (Hololive) Final stream>2) 57,651: Miko (Hololive) TCG Card Shop Simulator>3) 32,628: Pekora (Hololive) TCG Card Shop Simulator>4) 28,038: Beni (VSPO) VSPO GODFIELD [B]>5) 117,346: Fubuki (Hololive) 3DLive>6) 77,935: Marine (Hololive) Marine-Ui Clubhouse Games 51 >7) 31,943: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Valorant>8) 28,114: Hajime (Hololive) Clubhouse Games 51 w/Noel>9) 28,798: Mumei (Hololive) Promise anniversary collab>10) 67,925: Luna (Hololive) Birthday 3DLive> PER COMPANY8x: Hololive1x: VSPO1x: Nijisanji[S]=Silver[B]=Bronze[]* brackets indicate placement on tally [4th], [5th], [10th]...Blank is global GOLD
>>87218341RUSHIA!
OCTOBER 2024 holoID>1) 4,513: Moona (hololiveSTAGE24 HYPE STREAM Vol.2)>2) 5,589: Ollie (TCG Card Shop Simulator) [3]>3) 9,967: Kaela (TCG Card Shop Simulator) [2]>4) 9,654: Kaela (Fishing Planet ft. Timesmith)>5) 8,888: Kaela (TCG Card Shop Simulator) >6) 5,169: Zeta (TCG Card Shop Simulator) >7) 5,565: Kobo (Paincore)>8) 6,699: Anya (Watching HoloGTA clips)>9) 4,673: Zeta (TCG Card Shop Simulator) >10) 8,077: Kaela (TCG Card Shop Simulator) > PER STREAMER4x: Kaela2x: Zeta1x: Moona, Ollie, Kobo, Anya*[brackets] indicate number of streams over 5k for the day. Omitted brackets means only 1**numbers taken from vrabi w/ filter off
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*>10/10 TALLY:13,352: FuwaMoco (Hololive) | Collab w/ Patra11,975: Kiara (Hololive) | Holobags9,416: Fauna (Hololive) | 7 Days To Die Collab8,624: Raora (Hololive) | Monster Hunter World w/ Bijou8,371: Nerissa (Hololive) | Powerwash Simulator8,367: Raora (Hololive) | 7 Days to Die Collab8,043: Elizabeth (Hololive) | TCG Card Shop Simulator7,241: Bijou (Hololive) | 7 Days to Die Collab6,855: Mori (Hololive) | 7 Days to Die Collab6,471: FuwaMoco (Hololive) | 7 Days to Die Collab5,367: Kronii (Hololive) | 7 Days to Die Collab>EN GOLDS FOR OCTOBER 20241) Amelia (Hololive) - 122,380 - Final Stream2) Kiara (Hololive) - 18,127 - Unarchived Karaoke3) Baelz (Hololive) - 28,354 - Fullmetal Alchemist Karaoke4) Raora (Hololive) - 20,645 - Italian Lesson w/ Kiara5) Alban (Nijisanji) - 18,888 - Return Stream + New Outfit Debut6) Kiara (Hololive) - 45,402 - 4th Anniversary 3D Live7) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 22,156 - FuwaMoco Morning8) Bijou (Hololive) - 12,100 - TCG Card Shop Simulator9) Mumei (Hololive) - 28,798 - Promise Quiz Collab + Announcements10) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 13,352 - Collab w/ Patra>PER COMPANY9x: Hololive1x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER2x: FuwaMoco, Kiara1x: Alban, Amelia, Baelz, Bijou, Mumei, Raora>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)13p: FuwaMoco, Kiara8p: Mumei7p: Ina, IRyS6p: Bijou5p: Alban, Amelia, Baelz, Raora4p: Fauna, Mori3p: Gura2p: Cecilia, Gigi1p: Shiori
>>87218292Is it really a good idea to use someone with such a checkered past as the OP?I don't think it reflects well
So much fucking tallies
>>87218556Explain.
what rattled the niggers today
So, where are the DBZ streams? They aren't actually going to play more TCG shop all day right?
Go Woke Go BrokeGo Brown Go Down
>>87218023I'm from the split era, the /a/ /jp/ split era...
>>87218023I've been here for like 16 years already. Half my life.
>>87218579https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q7PW9SW3v0
>>87218556It's fine, OP often uses loosened up whores from the same branch, that one is much cleaner in comparison.
>>87218579This I think.
>>87218606Old FUCK
>>87218606Lol this anon is above 30 and balding
Did Cucxium run away again?
>>87218637Also the stream archive from the cataloghttps://gofile.io/d/1kzWHkIf some of you got time to waste you can timestamp it, personally I don't care.
How do we save Nijisanji?
>>87218738Put them out of their misery
>>87218637NTRed dramanigs lol.
INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING
>>87218637>>87218732woof this guy really shoulda stayed with nijisanjiprobably one of the rare cases that regrets leaving
i wish i were moom...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fdO9ufrM0Y
Ogey so we've done city and earth, next is space right? when is the partnership with Elon Musk?
>>87218738Why is the card simulator still so popular?
>>87218809Damn there's still 4views among them
Reminder to log into HoloEarth and claim your free coins!
>>87218859People are watching it because there's nothing else, the girls keep streaming it because they're annoying
So blue journey was> unprofitable> wasted a lot of talents' timeCover should just stick to bringing the girls and their ideas to live. They aren't content creators, they suck at knowing what the audience likes.
>>87218873What do you even do in this game?
>>87218873UOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
>>87218873No
>>87218896I think its a survival game where you can't die
>>87218859Because CARD GAMES CARD GAMES CARD GAMES CARD GAMES CARD GAMES CARD GAMES CARD GAMES CARD GAMES CARD GAMES CARD GAMES CARD GAMES CARD GAMES CARD GAMES CARD GAMES CARD GAMES CARD GAMES CARD GAMES CARD GAMES
>>87218887Wouldn't have failed if they added EN
I fucking hate TCG
>>87218887It was fine, stop trying to turn everything into an issue
>>87218445Blue archive cosplay assets for vtubers when?
>>87218896Zenless Zone Zero
We are watching this today.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMUtZeBt2iI
>>87218836Fauna having PTSD attack when Kronii moans
>>87218738AnyColor should make their own card game
>>87218887Cover should focus on giving the girls 3D outfits and let them come up with they will be used for.
>>87218981Lol
>>87218981Their Nintendo masters won't like that, it'd be stepping on the toes of the pokemon tcg
Did Ennacuck really waste zheir money even though there's a nijiEN 3D debut today?
>>87218970Dying Nijiniggers leech of a side branch
>>87218732y'know back at the peak of my niji hate I might have actually done itbut they're dead now, and I have better things to do
>>87218887Of course it wasn't profitable it's an idea coming from management not the talents, it was bound to fail
Sharky doko?
>>87218887Part of why is they are tied to labels, therefore had to make a separate channel to do it. But I think it's fine to try something new other than the typical bright, idol type project.
>>87218887A lot of the livers got burned out by it
>>87218738>Game that might irk TPC releases>Niji skip it to keep their perms>Holo smash watchours records with it>Nintendo see that holo has great pull with that subsection of audience they are interested in>Gives next sponsorship to Holo>Nijiseethe >Repeat
Predictions? The stream where he announced this hit almost 20k.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXGO_juuLP4
>>87218981Kuzuha will have more support in set 2 than Blue eyes has received in 20 yearn
>>87219077nigger
>>87219017I doubt they keep track of niji shit, I didn't know until I daw this comment. One of Noctis?
>>87218023I lurked /jp/ occasionally during the 2020 era but I didn't really have a mental filter for shitposts that I do now, so every thread felt pretty shitty to read through.I got into /vt/ and /#/ during CCVID because this was LITERALLY the only place talking about it.And then I lurked a little bit, figured out how to distinguish shitposters, and it's been a fun ride ever since.
>>87218887Cover is so bad at being an idol company, just let the talents do their thing
Poster a vtuber song on tiktok and zoomers are tearing it apart man when did they became so mean geez
>>87219142Same faggots that can't even look the waiter in the eyes at the restaurant btw
>>87219142Iranmouse....
>>87219142Vtubers are still seen as cringe by the majority of people. Hell, even most anime fans see it in negative light. 2D will always reign supreme for a reason.
>>87218887Anyone could have told them it would be impossible to replicate Bloom. and Bouquet with this soulless management driven project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf5rbPYzTYg
>>87219142where
>>87219142>tiktokGood, no one should use that shit anyways
>>87218738>Slipped to Miko even with Collab buffKek
>>87219105It's the official term since 2018, newfag
>>87219218double nigger
>>87218887Why is it always lamy
>>87219186Why do people even watch vtubers anyway? I don't get it
>>87219192Isn't Bloom a management-driven project too?The problem is most likely project director
>>87219238Yeah me neither
>>87219077I don't think the holomem drank that much over it
>>87219238Based, people should watch Holos instead
>>87219100Is he popular
>>87219254Hololivers are even worse
>>87219186cringe is second hand embarassment so majority of uses of the word is actually the person saying they lack social experience and are uncomfortable.
>>87219266>Admitting to blatant trolling
>ReGLOSS 3D Live Reach the Tophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIYvks57cQA>1st Album "ReGLOSS"https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1833478041307385980>Feeling Gradation *new*https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=u4uDiV3u-do>セプテンバーさん / September-san (cover) *new*https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=OHQ-npgd2Ok>快晴 / Kaisei (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=YA7QcvdHk70>青と夏 / Ao To Natsu (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnAk_ZGfvdw>青のすみか / Ao no Sumika (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=efF_c9D-R-A>Bling-Bang-Bang-Born (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=vFDysagoQw0>奏 / Kanade (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=VT1on_WaMzw>My Dearest (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s>DAYBREAK FRONTLINE (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg>名前のない怪物 / Namae No Nai Kaibutsu (cover)https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok>Shunkan Heartbeat Otonose Kanade SOLO ver.https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnRwOG06UtI>カバー曲 / Cover Songshttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUEA7yBOKxdRPdI4vYmL-dR>歌まとめ / All Songshttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUogkBSe9WqTU0X1ia7xi_1
>>87219139>just don't try anythingThis attitude is so stupid, plenty of good things are born from management. Some won't pop off and some will be bad but I think people are overplaying their hand trying to blur the lines between the two.
>>87219245Yeah but it was Eugene not this half cover half universal garbage
Fuck me, that arcade collab started and I don't think can go day one.
>>87219077>livers
>>87219267This hobby is about watching anime girls dude, it's not that deep
>>87219296I said let the talents handle it not do nothing at all
>>87219310What I said wasn't too difficult to comprehend, if the person you're embarassed on behalf of isn't actually doing something to be embarassed about; it's a sign you're socially weak
>>87217815>ReineWhat fucking world are you living in where Reine is more popular than Moona?She’s one of the shitters of ID
>>87218887>can't do that many of them>UPROAR>T3MPUS (EN3)>V4NGUARD>ARMIS>homotools
>>87218811The Niji males should realize that once they move away from Manjisanji’s protection, there is no place for them. There is a reason that company is an anomaly with male vtubers compared to the rest of the industry.
>>87219332>if you feel cringe that means your socially weekUhh sure whatever you say
>>87219369Why are you arguing? The word has a definition, I'm explaining it.
>>87218811Every male that has left NijiEN has done worse numbers while every girl has done equal or better and no Yugo doesn’t count for males
>>87219296The issue is that, in 2023, there was a lot of retarded management shit that happened one after the other >HLZNTL>BJ>DEVISAll which reeked of shitty overbrearing management attempts at trying to force things instead of playing to the strengths of what they have. The regloss girls basically had to be rescued by a combined effort by an assortment of Holomem because they saw what kind of a mess was building.
>>87219100The one that was also a return stream aAnd outfit reveal?
>>87219358You really posted another homos on something that is not related to it? I guess when you have to hit your quota
>>87219384fucking vsimps they're not gonna fuck you ™
>>87219385>HLZNTLIs retarded harmful management shit>BJ>DEVISDidn't pop off, but there is nothing inherently wrong with them.This is exactly what I mean by blurring the lines.
>>87219385>dev_is>retarded management shitThey're the most successful debuts since sankisei.
>>87219358Was armis already confirmed by cover to be Holostar EN Gen3?This holopro rrat already thrown away
>>87219384just shows that the male vtubers audience likes a boybox (like a boyband) and care less about them individually
>>87219447fuck off with this history revisionism shit faggot
>>87218732I checked it out for a bit jumping around, he has a rant about the Enna collab backlash back in the day which the ennaschizo would probably find interesting or amusing or enraging or whatever emotions drive that guy. But I bailed after ~10 minutes, i got bored
Half this list will be under Brave by the end of next year.
>>87219470People have been calling Raden a first army candidate since day 1.
>>87219447>They're the most successful debuts since sankisei.lol lmao evenonly took a whole year and help from well established talents like marine to pull their out of the shitlets see how long the wind blow until the shit homo spam drag them down again
>>87219296>plenty of good things are born from managementlike fucking what
>>87219452It was always genX,. internationally, but they had a totally unknown individual, that hates calling them generations, in control of the branch
>>87219485speaking of day 1, they're the only gen to not get 100k subs on day 1 since gen 4
>>87219489Bloom
>>87219479So that SC really got under his skin huh?
>>87219489ENReco
>>87219487And again for all the effort to make a separate holojp and the effort it took to save them, who benefited from it? Sure holizontal and devis weren't very good by hololive standards but surely they boosted up da bois quite a bit right?
>>87219489FesExpoStudio
>>87219548Coz Gura is in there
>>87219470they are though>gen3>known as the cabaret girl club gen>mentally ill chud pandering whore got fired>device>every member have done male collab(s)>Raden (sub leader) has a love team with a male vtuber>Ao the biggest team player
>>87219440BJ's issue is that it was yet another top-down management thing that reeked of too much management control and not enough input from the girls. DEVIS has much the same feel, and whoe I understand the they're both nowhere near as bad as HLZNTL was, but it was the combination of all of them happening together that sets the tone that management is retarded and completely out of touch.
https://youtu.be/Ue3hVOQ9o0Q
>>87218887The outfits were cool at least
>>87219557those are all natural consequences of Hololive existing, which would happen under any management
>>87219556Why are you combining a new branch an horizontal together like they are related in any way?
>>87219489the ultimate holoans
I think they should graduate everyone with less than a million card
>>87219576You ignored two other answers and moved the goalpost, impressive
>>87218887>Do a bunch of songs sung by holos but with zero Holo branding, on a non-Holo channel, using no hololive imagery but instead all being about some generic anime fag>Nobody listens or gives a shit about it>PANIC, desperately try to salvage the concert by suddenly making it all about HololiveJust do a fucking idol project live next time retards, stop hiring these idiots to try to "expand the fanbase" with all of these bad ideas. Or do, but do so with the understanding that it will all flop for YEARS. This whole concept of>trying to get a new marketbut>it also has to be as successful and profitable as mainstream Hololive instantlyis beyond retarded
>>87219589They're both things that were created with homocollabs in mind so my question is:1) were they sucessful by new hololive gen/project standards?No they weren't, by being associated with homos they clearly had less popularity than they could've gotten2) did they boost up the homos?You can answer that yourself
>>87219616I'm not the same anon so there was no goalposts and no I didn't, what I said applies to all 3 of those things.It would have happened regardless of who managed it.
>>87219626>They're both things that were created with homocollabsNo they were not. Are you really going to be retarded on purpose?
>>87219485dumb delusional fucks like you maybe
>>87219626They are doing ok and have mostly recovered after a rough startHow is that relevent in anyway?
>>87219652HOLIZONTAL>not created with homocollabs in mind despite being literally hololive x holostar collabsHoly retard
This shit topic is happening because TCG card shop is boring btw
>>87218811Those streams are all flesh buffed btw. He still has a LOT of decline to come. If Nijisanji rush another EN male branch, he will decline even further.The same applies to the ugly fat indonesian, who is already a low 3view, but survives due to whores raiding him all the time. In fact, Mysta's life is even more miserable than Quinn because he truly lives like a leech, and not like Ren Zotto, the real deal, also hit his all time low in September, even with the constant raids.
SOONhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCRzo8hkjIghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCRzo8hkjIghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCRzo8hkjIg
>>87219632Wouldn't any and every good decision be in the "would naturally happen" category? You want an example that has an impossible standard >>87219670Clearly I was talking about the new branch.
>>87219662>they have recoveredIt's good that they have recovered, but they wouldn't need to recover if they weren't separate from holojp andd collabed with males to begin withAny success they got after would've come anyway since they are the same people it'd just be in a better/bigger foundation if they didn't fuck up the start/intent of the branch
>>87219621>Or do, but do so with the understanding that it will all flop for YEARS.Strangely, they are clearly doing this already for the homos. Wish they'd taken the HLZNTL/BJ approach with that.
>>87219697Strange how that doesn't apply to the bad decisions since only literally retards would ever think HomoEN was a good idea and only incompetent management would do such a shit thing.
>>87219670must defend the cudgel preas andastnd
>>87219728Yeah, i agree. The homos getting an EN branch was a natural decision based on what they needed to do, but it was still a bad one AND a failure
>>87219515>2021>>87219557>2020>expo/studio>decisions made around 2021I see a pattern here>>87219548one decent idea after 3 years of fuck-ups
>>87219728HomoEN is a good idea though. Perfect, even. There is no better idea for holohaters
>>87219759I wasn't saying it was natural at all.Every "good" decision Cover has made is natural, because they've literally only ever taken risks on retarded shit like making HoloEarth.It was literal schizophrenia to suggest HomoEN would exist before it existed, it's the worst idea that only cum garglers could think was a natural thing.
>>87219697>Clearly I was talking about the new branch.Very convenient for you that you write like a retard then, because it almost seemed that you were trying to imply none of them wereAlso holojp >don't collab with males except for promos with the exception of 2-3 talentsDevis>new project starts homocollabing right out of the gateUnless you are a complete fucking retard you can tell that they used the separation of branches to push those in a way that would cause less drama, unless you believe they created a branch that does EVERYTHING the same way that the hololive branch does EXACT THE SAME WAY except for homocollabs but somehow they weren't created with allowing for homocollabs at least partially in mind
Do not look at who Gigi followed on twitter...
>>87219728>>87219759I hate that I can see why homoEN was so tempting it was impossible for Cover to ignore, but I seriously wish they'd had to presence of mind to take a step back and realize it was a terrible idea
>>87219528I guess. He got really mad and emotive about it. It was like 53~ minutes in if you care but I wouldn't bother, just your typical "she's not going to fuck you, incel" and "parasocial fucks" kinda stuff, bog standard
>>87219784Having western concerts and world tours didn't happen in 2020-2021. Holomeet was also not at that timeframe, but I don't remember when was the first one
>>87219699>collabed with malesYou are insane, while I agree there is no benefit to doing so every gen does this.So can you honestly say if they released regloss in HoloJP you wouldn't be seething just as hard that they are changing the formula with the direction they wanted to try?
>>87219652They forced the DEV_IS girls to death march tweet every single holostar in the entire company unless you think that was their fucking idea, kek. That was the most management driven bullshit I've ever seen in my life.
>>87219803>I am the first EN>all of the credit none of the blame>OmegayYagoo entrusted the branch to a faggot who didn't deserve it. It was always destined to go wrong
>>87219847I forgot that happened, boy was that weird as fuck
>>87219817don't need to, it was funny the moment it happened, even enna sent a chat defending him kek
>>87219662What makes you think that they have mostly recovered?
>>87219795The JP homos had a large prlart of their audience be EOPs, it's not a schizo idea to try entering the only market that they believe would want it. This is ignoring the whispers Omega would put in people's ears since we can only guess how much influence xi had
>>87219795It's in the context of the time. Just like how Luxiem baited them into creating the retardation that is Tempiss, in 2019 Nijimales tempted Cover into believing male vtubers was a feasible business opportunity for hololive. Make no mistake it was retarded, but it probably wasn't so obviously retarded back then. Don't know how homoEN happened. The lesson should have already been learned, not sure why they felt like touching that stove for a 2nd time.
https://x.com/hololivetv/status/1003261859607089153
>>87219077
>>87219566BJ is honestly not bad and reasonably well-liked by the girls, it's just too exhausting both in funds and energy, and doesn't produce enough returns for what's invested. Just like Devis, the idea by itself isn't that bad, they just don't have enough to execute it properly
>>87219803>massive hololive en success that everyone scrambled to try to get a piece of? Including big brands and other huge streamers?Do literally nothing for an entire year, debut a generation and try to self insert, don't try to give projects or even game perms to the girls, constantly cockblock projects and music where the talents have to do everything themselves with no support and barely any management>luxiem has 3 months of success where they sometimes reach 10k ccv?HOLY FUCK LETS DROP EVERYTHING TO DEBUT 15 MALES IN 1 YEAR HOLY SHIT FUCK THE GIRLS MAKE THEM ACCESSORIES TO THE BOYS POPULAR DEMAND POPULAR DEMAND DEBUT THEM AS FAST AS POSSIBLE, FUCK THE NEW HOLOLIVE DEBUTS WHAT THEY ACTUALLY WANT IS THE GIRLS, FUCK THEIR TWITTER AND SOCIAL MEDIA ITS ALL FOR THE BOYS NOW
>>87219899yab
>>87219693is getting into warframe in 2024 just as miserable as it was before?
>>87218606i've been here on an off for like 17-18 years. every few years one of my interests align with some board and i post there for a lil while. this has been the longest time i've spent here though because /vt/ is the pinnacle of vtuber discussion, and vtubing has held my attention for 4 years now. wow.
>>87219890>>87219895You're simply retarded if you didn't think it would immediately lead to a bunch of culture war antis while being a complete failure.Even in the scenario where people did actually watch them, HololiveEN would have died.The best outcome was failure.
>>87219899https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWzcMOvEnLk
>Reflop is a SuccessLMAO
>>87219485> day 1uh huh
>>872197983 of the 5 members never had a collab with the Holostars. Like plenty of people have said already, DeV is not only going to be a music focused branch, them having 5 game devs for gen is a possibility,
>>87219871it's basic etiquette you fucking incel
>>87219862I think Omega was someone promoted beyond his competency and in classic Dunning-Kruger effect fashion was so inept as to not be aware he was inept. It's really on Cover for not making sure to keep a closer eye on EN in its early life. If they had, they may have realized EN was thriving despite Omega instead of appearing to think it was because of him.
>>87219843>while I agree there is no benefit to doing so every gen does this.Funny i don't remember advent doing this or sankisei
>>87219934Warframe has the wares if you have the coin. f2p sucks ass though.
>>87219515>>87219557A-chan was in charge of those, not the JP suits.>>87219548Jap was in charge, not the JP suits.
>>87219965>3 of the 5 members never had a collab with the Holostars.yeah, just e-celebs and fleshbags.
>>87219967>Brown Pussy Looks Disgusting
>Metaphor: ReFantazio Surpasses 1 Million Copies Sold Worldwide Atlusbrosbros!
>>87219937No one here said it was a good idea or mention on the quality they would get.The decision to make the branch was made before the auditions happened
>>87219965How many other generations had ANY talents collabing as fast as devis with homos?
>>87219913well? HLZTL is exactly the same way tooIdea of hololive getting involved in esport is not bad... but their retarded execution and homo involvement ruined it all. They should've made an esport gen first as a semi separate project maybe like dev_is or even part of it. Instead of trying to force already overworked hololive talents into participating
Why is this retard always so desperate to suck off management's stupidity
>>87219843>the direction they wanted to try?what was that, exactly?Pizza Papa GTA server collabs and forced tweets at their "holostars senpai" on debut to set expectations for the Holobox? Which completely worked, by the way, which is why nobody subbed at debut. They signaled that ReGloss wasn't for normal Hololive fans and normal Hololive fans respectfully got the message. It was for some new audience.The problem is, it actually worked way TOO well, and they hadn't thought through the implications of what it would actually mean to try to find a new audience outside the Hololive idolfag box. Thus the panicked backtracking, the repeated A-chan explanation streams, the first army favors called in and the sustained shill barrage for an entire solid year to salvage the gen.
>>87219801who?
>>87219934probably better now. a lot better. But if you can live without it, that's for the best.
>>87219996>A-chan leaves>Hololive goes to shitReally makes you wonder
>>87219996A-chan was a suit. The oy difference is that she had an anime mask on
>>87220008This is why it's clear that the people who made the decision are not intelligent.I shouldn't have to explain this, to me it's all common sense that in every single possible reality of bringing HomoEN, it would have been disastrous.
>>87219937>You're simply retardedI think we've established many times over the years that Omega is indeed retarded, yes.
>>87219915>HOLY FUCK LETS DROP EVERYTHING TO DEBUT 15 MALES IN 1 YEAR HOLY SHIT FUCK THE GIRLS MAKE THEM ACCESSORIES TO THE BOYS POPULAR DEMAND POPULAR DEMAND DEBUT THEM AS FAST AS POSSIBLE, FUCK THE NEW HOLOLIVE DEBUTS WHAT THEY ACTUALLY WANT IS THE GIRLS, FUCK THEIR TWITTER AND SOCIAL MEDIA ITS ALL FOR THE BOYS NOWI really don't understand how the fuck they went there.... especially when it was obvious luxiem was successful cause of chinese fujos - market closed for cover...it's so fucking stupid... And now we need to deal with homoEN shit nonstop
>>87220023ID, ID2 and Justice. Maybe Fubuki and Matsuri when the homos got crea6, but I am not doing the research for that
>>87219913>Just like Devis, the idea by itself isn't that bad>let's debut a holojp generation that does the same as hololive jp but has more sponsored covers (not like that is a new thing, every new hololive gen gets more stuff than the last, unless you believe holox got the same amount of publicity at the start as gen 2) and doesn't have the hololive jp nameThe idea is non-existent, its literally exactly the same thing as uproar not being holostars, its a distinction that doesn't matter only that in this case it hurt devis because hololive jp is actually popular
>>87219974and now we have 10 leeches and more coming, Ame left, Gura off the grid. Things have gotten a lot better but it should never have gotten this bad to begin with
>>87220048Yeah, no one is arguing this at all.The point is that HomoJP existed and they wanted a way for it to get more people to watch it. HomoEN would have happened in a long enough timeline
>>87220068>I really don't understand how the fuck they went there.... especially when it was obvious luxiem was successful cause of chinese fujos - market closed for cover...Because it wasn't just plain stupidity, it was a subversion attempt
Have any Advent members addressed the lack of idol outfits for their gen?
>>87220087Obviously we were talking about holojp you absolute retard, holoid is a clear outlier regarding this are you daft? We know that different branches have different management, but it makes no sense to create a new jp "branch" when they end up doing the exact same content in the same language right? So its easy to look at that and check what differences hololive jp has compared to devis and it's literally just the homocollabs >b-b-but more musicStill a hololive jp thing, they get more of them because they are the new shiny thing just like holox got similar stuff
>>87220134Rationally, HomoJP should be dissolved. If management was competent, it also would never have existed.
>>87220028>wasn't for normal Hololive fansNo they fucking didn't stop inserting warped rrats spread from here based on Ao being for the ladies. Yea everyone agrees they fucked up the marketing in the beginning and the full introductions to the company was cringe. Other gens have also had management created follow lists.>backtrackingAgain no they didn't, HoloX were also massively advertised by everyone but you don't have people making this shit up about them.
>>87219452>>87219452that was post EN4 (V4nguard) disaster. if the unikeks didn't throw a tantrum, T3mpus would be the HoloEN sankisei like G*d intended
>>87220143they debut idol outfits at the fest you fucking monkey
>>87220121I can only imagine the timeline where we got EN3, whatever form that may have taken in 2022 instead of homos...I'm sure it would've been a great time.
>>87220147I said Matsuri and Fubuki. They had a collab with homogen, with the white hair homo, extremely early. I just don't remember the date and I don't want to look it up
>Ina got terminated
>>87220185Imagining a timeline where Council debut was done correctly, with no troon in charge is like daydreaming about utopia.
The shitposts at this hours are always so lazy and pathetic
>>87219700Man that's the worst part about this project.> put money into homos> they are garbage for 2 whole yearsWell even now they are garbage but at least they can sustain themselves enough with the little money they bring in.Compare that to BJ -> put money into BJ> it's moderately successful> stop putting money into it because you wanted instant successEven the girls are aware that projects like these take a while to get off the ground. They already invested all that money into the girls' outfits (3D even), which would've been the bulk of the initial cost.It just feels like these projects are led by some imported manager who just thinks short term and automatically wants everything to be successful, forgetting that hololive itself took a couple of years of investment and development before they hit their peak.
>>87220048>disastrousyeah, for the fans. you are working on the false assumption these things were done with (You)r best interest in mind.
The difference between a normal gen vs and regloss is that regloss is that management has more control to regloss as a whole
>>87220250I don't care about how Yagoo's asshole feels about it
>>87220168HoloX got the massive shilling day fucking one negroIt's really painfuly transparent how they were 100% aiming at alternative audiences and it's only when things went too grim the shilling and the help from main talents really startedholy shit you fag Ao was a 2k shitter not even a year in
>>87220006I'm interested but I'm waiting for a sale, still a fuckload of games in my backlog. Good to know that PC-first actually works for them though, hope this will always be the case from now on. Also dammit Atlus please release new Etrian Odyssey games
>>87220185It would be 5 total different girls. It's literally impossible to guest
>>87220176>holoX>ReGLOSSsure thing
>>87220163I can understand them sticking with it for 2~3 years, but yeah, by this point it should be pretty fucking obvious they're not worth having around. 26 talents taking up time. Only 1 isn't a complete waste and even then...
>>87220168Whatever anon. I get that you're a ReGloss fan (I assume) and I'm not trying to attack the girls, but you're just engaging in historical revisionism.I agree they did successfully salvage the gen, but it's blatantly obvious they (and by they I mean ReGloss management) were trying to make a normalfag branch for Hololive, where male collabs (and holostars collabs) would be accepted because of setting expectations early, and the gen would focus on k-pop style dancing because they thought that's what girl fans would want.Answer me: Do you or do you not think those Holostars tweets were a management initiative? Do you think that all 5 ReGloss girls decided on their own to tweet at every single holostar in the entire fucking company, one by one, mechanically, of their own free will? Or was that a management idea, giving us an obvious clue about their intentions and mindset? No other gen in Hololive ever did that shit, Advent and Justice sure as fuck didn't.
>>87220288Are you being a piss monkey on purpose or
>>87220290If they feel like taking risks, they should literally do a hebe generation of 14 year olds.It's at least a risk that isn't retarded. Or gay.
>>87219801dubois?
>>87220250Anon, if it was not disastrous they wouldn't hide homoshitters in their financial report.
>>87220026Nah, the very idea of involving guys in it is just idiotic in the first place, it's ruined no matter how good you execute it. Focusing on games could work, but I honestly don't think they have a good enough roster for it anyway, ultimately their biggest fanbase are there to see them sing and dance not play fps or fgc. They could try to find new girls just for it like you said, but that's much easier said then done, they'll be fighting Vspo too. Aalso expecting these girls to do tournament preps AND idol preps is just too much and I don't think it's worth the hassle.
>>87219801>cookie run:kingdomGigi...
>>87220026esport as a concept is fundamentally retarded
>Three more girls got a 1 million card before Miko
>>87220200>hololive jp before gen 3They were still figuring out what they were doing, also outliersgen 3,4,5,6 didn't collab out of the gate with homos or tweet at all of them at the start
https://x.com/animefestasia/status/1844668546389000675>Thank you for your support -- Saturday concert tickets are SOLD OUT!
>>87219801
>>87220321no...
>>87220143They'll probably get theirs in NY live just like ID3
>>87220302The most damning evidence to me wasn't the girls tweeting every homo, it was every JP homo tweeting at the girls. ALL of them. Even ones historically known for trying to keep away and/or next to never using social media.
>>87220092Honestly, the problem is that they're not distinctive enough at all. Maybe if you go for a gen full of girls like Raden with unique taste and skillsets, but in the end the ex-smoker ended up singing and dancing too, in fact the brainrot shorts is how she incline the most anyway.
>>87220312keep it simple >one girlgo back to the roots>14 or youngerlet the increasing hag population of the holobox take care of her
>>87220369Queen of Kaigai, I kneel
So, what is a good next project for Cover?
>>87220387
>>87220026If HLZTL was Holo only, it would still be a failure. It would have survived longer, but the majority of the girls don't care for esportsYour idea for DEV having an Esports or pro gaming gen is possible. Korone talked about that with polka
>>87220373>GGGood Girl
Ririka hologra next!
>>87220397True.People might say I'm trying to be a groomer or something but I think it's a good idea, brand wise. fan art excluded, people make sure to treat the girls in a way that they're comfortable with and even then a lot of nips hide porn fan art from tags.
>>87219231she's basically Kiara in how much and how recklessly she yaps nowadays
>>87220234Management unironically should listen more to what Mio is saying... If not for her half of holos would quit before it got popular (and maybe some wouldn't even be hired seeing how she was there during marine's audition for some reason)
>>87220396> they're not distinctive enough at all.They're not distinctive at all not just not enough, not at allThe brainrot shorts that she inclined from are something that she could've done in regular hololive (look at stuff like watame and polka produce)>unique taste and skillsetsBasically every single hololive en gen has, some more than others for sure, but outside of da smoker stuff she could totally fit in a "normal" hololive genExcept being korean i guess, it could've just been a normal hololive gen
>>87220302They tweeted every Holo as well, it was a tweet everyone intiative not promote the Homos one and yes it was fucking cringe. Nothing came from it and they are doing their thing as normal Holos, all be it with a group based twist.
>>87220406
>>87220464Be less obvious
>>87220234Well, new managers just think [anything]+Hololive is automatically successful
>>87220406give infinite perms to gura and 1 million dollars and see where it goes
>>87219482>Half this list will be under Brave by the end of next year.I highly doubt it since brave is was in the red already when they released their financials and that was before getting idol not to mention that their first batch of angel investors is due to pull out early next year so its either going to be them going public or them trimming the fat
>>87220464>Nothing came from itThere is no point trying to revision it
>>87220387There's ZERO fucking chance the holostars would have done that without very explicitly being asked, or maybe even begged for some of them, by management.
>>87220455Even the smoking thing isn't that big of a deal for a holomem, video games are also an unhealthy habit.
Since this thread knows it all how would you incline the homos? Mangement is doing the best they can.
>>87220508That's why it's the most damning evidence of management fuckery to me
>>87220406A normal concert with the theme being something that is an excuse to make a new 3D outfit for them.Holo bayblades
>>87220425They couldn't compel Aqua to join. Not even endorse itEven the retard knew it was bad
>holostars
>>87220323nta they didn't tho, they show how homos did great financially with hololive
>>87220464>devis was just holojp but separate so management could push homos>well yes they did push the homos before even debuting and are doing nothing different from holojp but what you just said that them being separate just to push the homos isn't true despite that being the literal case
>>87220517Uproar 2
>>87220464yeah only took a year and a massive collective effort to pull their head out of the shitter
>>87220234Blue Journey is most probably Universal Music's idea. And they were the ones who decided to pull out
>>87220517unikeks will just answer with "kill them all" because they're predisposed to hate them, but realistically, if they just made them gorm a box and segregate them away from girls like during Jim Crow days, they would had inclined by themselves.
>>87220494
>>87220517I'd incline them by setting them free to acheive their true potential in the free market. By firing them all. They can never succeed in this toxic female-dominated environment where the girls refuse to share even one crumb of puss- I mean, collabs.To be nice, I'd give them a one-time bonus of $5000 each and that's insanely generous.
>>87220517graduate them all then debut an all idol unicorn female generation in holostars as a totally new branch that just does the same as holojp but even more unicorn friendly and with more budget behind itGuarantee incline to the holostars brand
>>87220388anons, if what this schizo that love posting rrats in global said it's true about december then i think Kronii and Fauna really had something going on... which is weird because Fauna doesn't check any point of Kronii's list
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCRzo8hkjIg>warframe sponsoredlol
>>87220406Kiaramatic project hopefully. Imagine the kino.
>>87220517Use ERB
>>87220517sell them to Nijisanji or other corpo
Oh, they might get access to a new Karaoke database soon according to IRyS. That's cool.
>>87220539BASED BASED HOLOSTARS IS THE FUTUREBut it's still funny to me that they removed the homo from holoen timeline.
>>87220517Asking incline the homos is like asking incline any small EN vtuber companiesIt's impossible because they don't have enough good talents
I'm glad Raden found someone who can discuss cultural and artistic subjects on her level. It's not often a vtuber finds an ideal collab partner like that.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMUtZeBt2iI
>>87220568>they would had inclined by themselves.No, they would not. The homos are just bad as entertainers and only got their started audience because the girls existed.
>>87220546>devis was just holojp but separate so management could push homosDevIS was just holojp but separate due to management deeming gens styled around specific content a big enough departure to require a new branch.
>>87220517Go all in on fujos and don't even do external female collabs
HoloMeet Concert tour was one of the best thing they did recently but it's more on international side of things.ENReco was great for ENFor JP lots of Solo concert is greatGen Anniversary Lives is also great though we get less 3D anniv lives.HoloWitch idea was great on paper but the top girls are busy with their Solo lives so promotion for this isn't really ideal.The worst thing about Blue Journey being cancelled and no HoloSummer is we got a Homo Concert recently which is really bad look for Cover.Though having said that 3 SoloLive concert is OP they might break the HoloFes quarterly earnings this quarter not to mention we will probably get new year/christmas events.
qt green woman
>>87220623Jpcucks will do nothing
>>87220632>specific content What specific content nigger?What fucking specific content?Because there's only 1 thing that they all did even before debut that is specific to devis when in comparison to holojp which is what we've been saying this entire time
>>87220568homos have better numbers in their rm according to archive reps. Trust me I don't watch stars letting go is good for everyone
>>87220606Naw, won't work, there's no drama buff if the holo gives up the collabs for free from day one. it has to be degradation, destruction, corruption. it has to hurt her fans and make those incels pay. ERB never had any fans who would care, so there's nothing being ruined.
>>872206413.0 reveal predictions? Can she hit 50k?
>cuckposting and holoan posting >mintbeggar shows upWhat a coincidence
>Yagoo tasks you with inclining 5/28 homos for at least 10k average ccv and as reward you can marry any hololive girl but if you fail you have to debut in holostars do you take the deal?
>>87220640Speaking of 3D, when was the last time stars get 3D live?
>>87220494into the same pit of demotivation the rest of her streams went
>>87220659>homos have better numbers in their rmlol nodumb actually went back to their pre holo numbers and dumber actually has lower numbers than his pre holo stuff and has resorted back to femboy shit
How about this.A virtual field. 2 virtual goals.No streamers. Just virtual sportsmen.They only talk to each other. Only thing shown is practice and matches.They can be given varied designs. One dude could be cool. One could be kind of cute, probably the cool guys best friend. One could be fat and trying to lose weight. One could be a foreigner.All they do is play sport and banter.No girls.
https://youtu.be/nwu28ynEA_kcheck the comments
>>87220625>take me to the Dome you fucking whoresUNFATHOMABLY BASED
>>87220517>Create an entirely New Niji like branch completely separated from Hololive
>>87220640>we got a Homo Concert recently which is really bad look for Cover.wasnt that the last homo concert
>>87220678
>>87220595i remember playing warframe then tencent bought the devs parent company...
Funny holoduel statshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CpXSGsoVaJsOqOq5OlBNAc4KX2hBpxqr3crupOwanMg/
>>87220703a bunch of content houses like otk did something like that and it flopped because some of the streamers started taking it personally which made the whole event trash
>>87220579
>>87220745A real(or virtual) sportsman would take sport seriously. He would take it personally if he lost. That's a good thing.
>>87220595i remember there was a rrat that holos were going to get a warframe sponsor but didnt because of the taiwan yab
>>87220744what about da bois?
sigh... who dont the homobeggars just leave
>>87220744>"free" draw 3 cards cardWho would've guessed it'd be universally good enough to include in every deck
>>87220708Ah yeah, I see it. Nasty little raid. Equivalent of antis, really, trying to define her whole career by some ancient memoryholed collabs. Probably really pisses her off when she sees it, she hates when people pidgeonhole her into old jokes. Same with the Subway stuff.
>>87220658They are a GEN formed of a GROUP with a UNITED GOALRather than a GEN formed of SOLOACTS with no UNITED GOAL
>>87220673just shoot me
>>87220658The difference is that ReGloss is made to be a unit and do things as a unit. Normal Hologens would be 5 solo artist in a group as an example
>>87220719LOLHigh chance there will be one again next year since all of HomoEN 3D will be finish by then.
>>87220780What about SALT 2 with jurard and flayon?
>>87220814Your homofailures should try standing on their own for once.
>>87220517see : https://youtu.be/qMcmM7kEKgA
>>87220769>He would take it personally if he lost. That's a good thing.not really since his audience would start to flame the other persons audience which would result into a fanbase war which is what happened worse is that the streamer himself would spiral down into either rage which would turn them into a semi-lolcow or depression and go into vices like what happened to minx
What did Nerissa mean by thishttps://youtu.be/G7oOm0pb7Vg?t=1948
>>87220836The audience is watching the field, not the individual
>>87220672same group of fags. they shifted from doomposting biboo to shitflinging japan to concerned post of management to homobegging
>>87220831What the fuck did I read
>>87220799All new hololive gens are clearly being treated as units now though, and old ones too, if gen cohesion is strong enough that it's possible. Gen songs annually, gen lives on anniversaries and such.
>>87220805talking about the jp homos anon since the way they worded it in their mengens was that it was going to be the last charity concert unless things improved also>homoen having a live concertlel i actually want it just to see another chronoir in na levels of flop
>>87220771https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D-oma_W1Fknot warframe, but the 2nd azurlane collab is not a rrat, its around when marine hyping the game again and the yabs happen
>>87220844>The audience is watching the field, not the individuallol no the audience will still identify with which streamer they are fans of anon
>>87220880>retard will said this a male collab
>>87220880holos playing tribes ascend when?
>>87220777They got left out again
>>87220885I already said there was no streamers.They don't need an internet presence. They won't interact with the stream.The fans can decide their nicknames, and the way they act during practice and matches will dictate how fans perceive their characters.
A REMINDER>cucked out of BD>cucked out of ENreco>cucked out of the 7th anniversary>cucked out of HoloGTA>stuffed in a cuck tank>got el silencio'd in front of 35k viewers>got el silencio'd on Ame's final stream in front of 125k viewers>cucked out of 7d2d>no events in months>viewership still going down
>>87220777bushiroad wants money anon
>>87220902>I already said there was no streamers.>They don't need an internet presence. They won't interact with the stream.>The fans can decide their nicknamesthen thats a flop anon since nobody would care or invest in it in the first place
>>87220903Why doesn’t management want our based boiz to succeed homobros
>>87220929No one wants to invest their time in the lives and personalities of men. They want to invest their time in what men do. Like sport.
>>87220861Regloss har their 3D debut because it's a group, Beboo, Shiori, ect had their debut because they are solos
>>87220880damn i wanna fuck those 3
>>87220880Oh that's that new Gacha game from some of the Danganronpa people right?
>>87220903stars liver "fans" still clinging on to 2022
>>87220708>telefraghmm familiar name.found it i remember posted a screencap of him few months ago i think
>>87220880Holizontal...
>>87220785>they are a GEN formed of a GROUP with a UNITED GOALAll of them are, they just happen to also have soloacts on top of the united goals, in general each new hololive gen has trended towards being more united and devis is not a particular outlier in this senseCompare gen 0 or 1 to gen 3 and then gen 4, 5 and 6Or compare myth to council to adventIf anything justice is the outlier in this regard because they debuted 4 talents and 1 of them has no idea what hololive talents are supposed to do
>>87220903>The JP Homo got terminated for sexual haresment
>>87220939black company
>>87220880is lunlun the biggest niji since salome thats sad i hear nothing about lunluns other gen mates even though they had like double her ccv on debut
nachonego earbuds
>>87220958Anon ???
>>87220944>No one wants to invest their time in the lives and personalities of men. They want to invest their time in what men do. Like sport.lol noonly reason why a sport becomes popular in the first place is because there are great players that become the icon of the said sportits why sports like curling, kabbadi, ultimate frisbee or lacrose dont have the same popularity as football, basketball, golf or even gridironits the man that makes the sport not the other way around see that chick in wnba
>>87220984You missed his point.
>>87220958Gay Furry anon...
>>87221039sorry anon no one cares about faggot shit, my idea is the only suitable thing for virtual content involving men.Sport and wargames.
>>87221046No
Yagoo has been busy it seems
>click on Ayame's Warframe waiting room>recs are suddenly flooded with Warframe videos
>>87220953That's different, yeah. But it was just a one-off stream. And what's the real advantage over just treating them as a normal gen unit like Advent, like is it leading to better commercial potential? The viral successes of ReGloss like Raden's mushroom meme and Kanade's song are individual, have nothing to do with this group concept.None of the ReGloss differences seem to be conferring any real advantage to me
>>87221022>they had like double her ccv on debutThat was because the bots broke down when they got to the mascot
>>87221076Welcome to the youtube algo
>>87221066>my idea is the only suitable thing for virtual content involving men.>Sport and wargames.and nobody will watch what you are proposing anon since it is the equivalent of wnba before caitlin clark
>>87221078Almost like it was designed to be a test for new things.Now that they have their 3D, maybe we can actually see if they do different things
>>87221101More people would watch it than would watch male vtubers
>>87221066Most popular wargames and sport events in vtubing were by hololive talentsRemember pessi? Remember fauna elephants? etc etc etcAny male that goes into vtubing is a low-value male that would be better off not existing and everyone can tell which is why no one watches them
>>87221078They do produce more music and have less outfits
>>87220893>>87220979called it lol. the moonrunes already said what the streams will be.
>>87219440>Didn't pop off, but there is nothing inherently wrong with them.>>87219913>BJ is honestly not bad and reasonably well-liked by the girlsThe problem with Blue Jorney, if you remember it from when it was released, they tried THEIR HARDEST to pretend this was not related to HololiveFrom March 2023 to Nov 2023 none of their thumbnails had the Holo girls, none of the YouTube videos in their channels had the Holo girls in any visual form (only their voices).It was an ABSOLUTELY CLEAR attempt to dissociate the project from "anime girls" and try to make it work for the regular music audience.Anons mentioned DEV_IS in the same vein and it probably came from the same "school of thought" inside Holo management>we have the "animesque avatar" on a lock>let's try for the regular audience that gets put off by anime and anime adjacent mediumThey failed miserably on both for the exact same reason Nijisanji's Selejo bombed so hard the ended up becoming the second lowest performing wave of all of the company (that is, before NijiEN debuted their latest one, didn't check since)>a complete misreading of the desires of the audience.Notice that when that realization set in they started putting the Holo girls front and centre again, but that was too late.
>>87220978do homobeggars have any other arguments besides the invisible gun?
>>87220517>Mangement is doing the best they canNo management is retarded. You have to look at what the audience wants. And right now you pander to fujos. Get good singers and dancers, put them in a group and market them under a separate boy band branding. Not the 'holo adjacent idol' crap they've been failing at for years now.
>tune in konkoyo utawaku>first song is aqua's song>close stream
>>87221162nope, everything is cope, they still live in 2022
>>87221128lol noit would be the same audience as the homos
>>87221144>ReGloss differences (I think, might have missed some?)Conjoined 3D debuts (this got big noomba but I think is kind of a downgrade from a normal gen for the actual girls)Special 3D idol outfits (remains to be seen if they get mainline hololive ones; if they don't, that's interesting)A shitload of free covers on their main channel that got pretty good but not mindblowing numbersSo I guess we'll see if any of that goes anywhere
>>87221162They rarely bring out that unicorns give them so much money that they don't male collab because of it
>>87221190Seethe
>Dooby is already streamingWow. Just wow.
Holostar need to follow the Hollywood format and needs a story to sell. Most holos have a story to sell that get you invested in their career.
>>87220903
>>87220978>reddit homobeggar>euronot even surprised since the rule of thumb is that >twitter homobeggar = sea>reddit homobeggar = eurowhats worse is that the guy is a TT fan
>>87220517>Mangement is doing the best they can.Management couldn't be doing worse if they were ACTIVELY TRYING TO SABOTAGE THEM!Starting with their hires. For fuck sake, who the fuck would take someone professing "Hate Marketing works" in the most conflict avoidant least polemic least confrontational vtuber company and audience of the whole world.
>>87221191Those should be their branch idol outfit. It's possible they get multiple performing outfits as well
>>87221159The fucking baffling thing about this is that there's so much more they can do with hololive as it stands right now that they haven't bothered doing and that would be instantly successful but instead they keep trying to court new fanbase while there's so much more free money to explore in the current direction that IS successful and that they know people wantLike sure try new shit, but also get free wins wherever you can, why would they act like they are better than the opportunities that are right in front of them?
>>87220623Don't forget to join membership to watch her ASMR after this collab
>>87221208why would i since the retard project you are describing is basically holostars>lets not care about the streamers personality and behavior since the name, activities and concept will surely make it popularliterally that dinofag
>>87221202Isn't that just an extension of the invisible gun?
>>87221258Jesus Christ it's all the same
https://youtube.com/shorts/t975O3xyxIwImportant
>>87221262>I'm a faggot that doesn't understand sportgive it a rest everything I've said is correct and the discussion is finished.
>>87221260
>>87221216>it's the year 2024>Mori Calliope is the most ride of die for Holo member of Myth>Amelia Watson left to stream on an indie channel while working on a deal that'll still let her get Holo money with minimal inputimagine posting that shit in 2020/21
>>87221258i recommend her ASMR, she talks about interesting stuffs and is not GFE shit
>>87221291You talk like a homo manager
>>87220406Chistmas and New Years related project
>>87221251Possibly. It wouldn't be very fair if the branch just got to spam a bunch of 3D outfits for no real justified reason but perhaps management would go for it, who knowsThey might also try to get the girls an actual "gen live" in person but that would also be them skipping the line for no real justifiable reason since half of Hololive is waiting in that same line, has been for years. But on the other hand, your musical group branch looks kinda stupid if they don't do real concerts. A conundrum on that front as well
>>87221291>im a faggot that thinks streamers personalities and behavior dont matter since the activity will make them popularliterally homos kekyou are basically omega anon
>>87221306Who hurt you?
>>87221258bet that ririka incident already inside joke for them
>>87221283The difference is that they can imply the girls are whores instead of being cowards
>>87221313>>87221332fuck you faggots i cant wait til hololive comes crashing down
>>87221327Uoh
>trying multiple times>can't even read english>seething and shitting up the thread about homosLike I said, give it a rest. The original post about it is still correct.
>>87221338nobody? i just said her ASMR is interesting because she talks about stuff
>>87221368NIJISEETHE
Very furry Reine
>>87221381What about the "gfe shit" that you conveniently left out then?
>>87221329Yeah, it's a mess.The solution is to do more concerts and more shit like the NYE live and give ReGloss an extra slot, as a group
>>87221405i dont need forced GFE shit, if i wanted it i would go to small corpos, it's better when they are natural
>>87221368lole
>>87221432Does it have to be forced if she did it?
>>87221387>>87221440Its always funny to see homofans having a mask off moment when their retarded plans get laughed at
>>87221380cockanon you are so bad at this
https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1844682947871625620https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1844682947871625620https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1844682947871625620KOREA BROS
>>87221456yes it is forced since the only reason why the girls in hololive do GFE is because they are pressured by their schizo fans
>>87220858Sexposting but from women
He's never gonna make it. The company will be dead by 2019.
>>87221456raden has no GF skills, she just feels like your neighbor
>lose argument>seethe and pretend that it was a Hololive or other corpo related idea>original post is still 100% better idea than anything male vtuber>>87220703
>>87221486Too obvious.
>>87221481HoloKR gen 0
>>87221486baffling nigger
>>87221481https://x.com/v_square_kr/status/1819026184468078592>doki do it first
>>87221481Huh ive never seen that grouping before thats actually new
>>87220944Nigger look at the fucking reaction to a Ronaldo or Jordan. Look how much coverage there is of athletes personal lives
>>87220517>how would you incline the homosyou literally can't at this point. Anyone who watches vtubers has already decided not to watch holostars, often because they hate them. The branch is full of toxic assets that devalue it by producing negative opinions on social media, but the main selling point is unity so you can't fire them. They based their marketing on not doing fanservice like the Niji homos, so you can't pivot into BFE. There's too many of them for a boyband. They aren't gamers so tournaments aren't an option, and they don't have anything to differentiate them from other tournament gamers anyway. They just did a bad job with the branch and there's no saving it, they'll be shitters forever.
>>87221481Sweet
Apparently this is a bunny InaAlso some banworthy arthttps://x.com/wamwamei/status/1844632742203388343
>>87221526? You can't talk to Ronaldo
>>87221501>anons original idea is basically starsen armis but with his sports larpkek
>>87221481Nice, another live that will have neither online stream nor any sort of recording!
thy thread invaded by furries?
>>87221180Fuck you.
>>87221551>seething and strawmanningwatch streams faggot
>>87221496>my idea? VIRTUAL PING PONG>oh, cute girls being idols on the internet? that's smart, let's try it.>my contribution? HOMOS WHO BOTHER YOUR OSHIyagoo is a genius...
>>87221501>it's just 4ccnot original
>>87221481Looks like a vtuber store inside a warehouse.
>>87221556It's not a live, it's a collab cafe and pop up store...
>>87221291I’d bet money this is that faggot Scott exact same style of just insisting how correct he is as his only response
>>87221542https://www.cameo.com/?srsltid=AfmBOopciMZ5RRC0MkZqJJ2zYZ0cCO9-kZvdReYNcHWNWtozTbJ_L6Ff
>>87220880>pekora>with a MALEuhhh, Nousagikeks??
>>87221564Didn't say it was an original idea, as stated you can't even read English.
>>87221558I don't see it
>>87221578lol>>87220893
>>87221562>anon accidentally turned himself into omegaim actually laughing anon
>>87221162Yeah the IRL meeting
>>87221605>strawmanningsister please, discussion is over. you lost.
>>87221593i forget most furryfag also a drawfag
>>87221605>accidentally
>>87221563>VIRTUAL PING PONGAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH SAVE ME AGENT-SAN
>still going>will later try to pretend to be a holofag>from SEA
>>87221633Blackrock
>>87221639i dont get it? qrd?
>>87221162No the mere though of them being uninterested is impossible to understand for these fags.
huh, ayame is doing the sponsor stream one hour early
>>87221654I'd let her manipulate my stock market if you know what I mean.
>>87220517You don't, just 'graduate' both homo branches. And never do that again.
>>87221668Shitpost about this Sony vtuber turning down a Holo spot and getting replaced with Lui
https://x.com/BruLee_Arts/status/1844610938017661339
>>87221620what is this? ISIS related thing?
>>87221696>LuiI thought it was Koyori
>>87221709Something about this anatomy looks off
>>87221678They have a real problem with consent.
>>87221620
>>87221718some swedish schizophrenia about a shadow cabal that controls hololive fans
Guys I was late to the last cabal meeting, can I get a cliffnotes summary?
>>87221725Spine is doing a funky dance
>>87221668>have a chance to get in to holo by invitation>turn it down thinking serve connection with china is retard move for company
>>87221738Chestbeards
>>87221696>Lui
>>87221748we basically are collecting funds to help josh repaint his shitty roof and gate
>>87221748there was no meetings, we were raped by the kenzokus the moment we got there
What if Fauna
>>87221748Be wary of sisters, it's now an hourly occurance that they accuse a unicorn of being a homobeggar
>>87221764>in an alternate timeline koyori debuted in versen grim
>>87220163That just isn’t realistic, unfortunately. Consider Yagoo and upper management consists of old men and you can see why they show preferential treatment to the homos. They see them as sons they never had or some shit. I have to imagine that management is much more engaged with da boiz than they are the girls from a social standpoint. Look at all the bullshit they were doing with the homoEN faggots. Truth is the only way we’re getting that monkey off our backs is if Anycolor or Brave Group bought them from Cover. Of they can see that they’re in “good hands” that’s the only way they’ll relinquish those faggots.
The logo being reflected is a nice touch
>>87221759I'll be honest. This was the first version that didn't have normal people in it after over a dozen generations so I just gave up and took it.
>>87221776when will someone draw porn of the erbttina?
>>87221776Let's stop
KHAM ONN KOYO LASSIE, GET THAT FACKING 10K!!
>>87221798>They see them as sons they never had or some shitbut yagoo has a kid though
>>87221798How can you say it's not realistic then in the next line say that the old men see them as sons.I don't give a shit?All that matters is what is right, not how others perceive it.I'm right. There shouldn't be Homostars. It doesn't make any reasonable sense for them to exist, never has and never will.
>>87221748We deferred a motion to change the font on the in-person recruitment paper slips. We used some group petty cash to buy a new coffee maker for the cabal dungeon, the old one is on the fritz. We allocated $1.2 billion in new funding to spread subtle anti-male vtuber hatred in all the media. And we hired a local company to repaint the lines in the parking lot, they'll do the work next week.
>>87221678They don't even watch them, that is very telling. Those fags know the homos are shit and boring. I remember one of them saying they have 'standars', wtf then don't fucking ask for homocollabs.
>>87221776PONYO PONYO LITTLE FISHY IN THE SEA
>>87221820All female no?
>>87221748The vanilla coffee was good.
>>87221854iirc his youngest is supposed to be a boy
>>87221776>raoratomos find this sexy
if I was in charge of the HOLOSTARS project I would have debuted 4 absolute faggot homosexuals, the gayest homos you've ever seen, limp-wristed fashion enthusiast disney fans who like to sing showtunes and bake, and given them girly bishonen avatars. I am talking about borderline traps. Then I would have had them do musical theater in 3D. Their first outfit would be shota variants which they would use in middle-school themed streams; their second outfits would be anthros. The publicly stated target market would be women, but in actuality the hope would be to make them sussy enough to attact crossover from hololive fans. Yagoo was right about male vtubers that appeal to a male audience, but he didn't go about it the right way.
whoever reset and changed the password for the ernoul account pls post the password in discord
every board is so fucking dead
>>87221904No streams
>>87221891You didn't say the unicorn code word
>>87221877>if I was in charge of the HOLOSTARS project I would have debuted 4 absolute faggot homosexuals, the gayest homos you've ever seen, limp-wristed fashion enthusiast disney fans who like to sing showtunes and bake, and given them girly bishonen avatars. I am talking about borderline traps. Then I would have had them do musical theater in 3D. Their first outfit would be shota variants which they would use in middle-school themed streams; their second outfits would be anthros. >The publicly stated target market would be women, but in actuality the hope would be to make them sussy enough to attact crossover from hololive fans. Yagoo was right about male vtubers that appeal to a male audience, but he didn't go about it the right way.so basically ukiyeah thats a great plan anon
>>87220880Nousagis can't stop being cucked weekly, daily even kekBecause they keep losing the true gold tally every day
>>87221747>swedish schizoi thought healthcare In sweden is free
>>87221748tim owes me $7.49 for coffee
>>87221921only for immigrants
>>87221738Stop harassing Dubai AI anon
>>87220893found another retard >>87221914
>>87220880According to pekora you're not a true nousagi if you don't support her male collabs . Nousacuck status Kek
>>87221921Mental health sucks here just like it does everywhere else
>>87220893another one >>87221965
>>87221948>several of them do AI codingthe fuck does that even mean
>the true gold spammer is an eop
>>87220880
>>87220880Eeeewww
yamers getting some goodish numbers for her warframe shill
Realistically though, those sponsored collabs aren't of any value.Marketing teams are just struggling to stay relevant these days since actual good marketing ideas are common sense things that you don't need to be a professional to understand.
>>87221969so you tell me the internet lied to me when they said healthcare is free there?
Raden gold today?
>>87221974Cucksagi melty?Another one your ass
>>87221939sex
MUMEI
>>87221995It's "free" but still shit and open to everyone else but the ones who pay taxes for it, some dude got shot in the sandbox and flew into the country and got care for it and then went back to his country.
>>87222006who this chubby supposed to be?
>>87220880Nousacuck coping that it's notKek
>>87221981I'm hoping he elaborates one day, but I'm never posting on leddit to ask him. I get the feeling he thinks I wrote the AI that generates music.
>>87222018cute
>>87221981I think Scooter was in charge of making grok for twitter. I'll ask him in the next meeting
>>87220606It’s funny that there has been only one collab. I figured she would unironically fall into the NijiEN bullshit where every stream becomes an impromptu homo collab, even when it is supposed to be a solo stream. But she’s too lazy even for that. Management couldn’t even get their cock obsessed holo to save those faggots with endless holo collabs. So far it’s failed with Mori, Kronii, Bae and Ame is fucking gone, but even she gave up. Man how fucking obnoxious are these faggots behind the scenes?
Why are they like thishttps://youtu.be/G7oOm0pb7Vg?t=6494
>>87221982i mean ennaschizo is a paki so xhe is more like efl than eop or esl
>>87222018Loveable dork
>>87221981>generate an AI song with prompts>Holy shit! shadow cabal doing some scary AI coding to make Jihad song against the beggars
>>87221913westerners love femboys and gender bending in general. Rio would be popular here if he could pander to EOPs. Look at that one twitch streamer who got famous for his crossplays. Stream viewers are more than happy to enjoy cute boys on the DL, but there's nothing for them in holostars but "bros". That only appeals to fujos and actual gays.
>>87222036>Scooter is active againNice, that helps our fundinghttps://youtu.be/4YxTa1AUqps
>>87220880The most cucked fanbase
>>87221995i think checkups are free, the rest is not
>>87221891That account is technically a Merc account, highest bidder gains access, and we haven't had access to it for ages.
>>87221948>they literally have times where they comment for more than 24 hours in a rowprobably because some of those are shared accounts rather than one person
>>87222024Kaela!
>>87221981Unicorns are programming bots that slander Dubai 24/7
>>87222057>westerners love femboys and gender bending in general.if that was true then landos numbers would have inclined after he did his femboy skit and not recline
>>87222091would
>>87222089Lando is an unlikable moron and he isn't cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMUtZeBt2iIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMUtZeBt2iIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMUtZeBt2iIGet in here
>>87222089He hit twink death
>>87222061Everyone knows it's you rectum
>>87221032I sill never not be baffled how someone with such a great art style fell into fucking Twitch streaming. It’s just depressing. She should be drawing yuri loli manga or creating a popular new blue archive character.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Za5FBIUgc
Would you pet pussyRyS?
>>87222058https://youtu.be/Y5pdgyOzJtE
>>87221877so basically, a group of matumafus?
>>87222136The shark ruined her reputation in the community and Karubi's success is only starting to recover it for her.
>>87222086Why would they do that? Dubai hates homos. They made it illegal even.
>>87222183Nacho is a piece of shit.
https://x.com/Tr0uT_2434/status/1844683108999933966Niji's 1-month old new liver has been suspended?
peko...>>87222044
>Saplings like this
>>87222136Her style is a dime a dozen
>>87221948I feel like those fuckers are literal Mangina'sAll their testosterones left their body long ago
>>87222208the fish was raw?
>>87222170kek this rules
>>87222133Oh I'm not Jeremy today? Rectum schizoNousacuck
>>87220345>ultimately their biggest fanbase are there to see them sing and dance not play fps or fgc.WRONGAqua's solo master streams were fucking hgueStartend streams were HUGEPotential to capture this audience is there if it was properly executed.That's why I said they needed a proper esport branch to not try to push every hologirl into retarded shit. They begged IRyS of all people lol.
>>87218896Wander around in an empty uninteractable 3D world... They should have just went in a minecraft direction instead if they truly wanted to go beyond the metaverse yagoo wanted.
>>87220880https://youtu.be/47Cyv5D0p_8?t=7079> Pekora went to beauty parlor.> And the beautician apparently likes Johnny's, and we talked about it a bit.> I forgot the name but apparently one of the members got flamed at some point.> The reason was because he said "I'm here to watch for your enjoyment, but you (his audience) should grab your own happiness as well.".> The reason for the flame being "you're an idol, you're supposed to let us dream!".> I can understand both perspectives. What do you guys think?> It wasn't a giant thing, but there was a small amount of criticism it seems.> Even in my case.. well it's not actually you guys, but other people also *gets distracted*> So yeah when I did that Dragonball stream and interacted with those guys, people who weren't you guys were screaming right?> "Pekora... I thought you said you wouldn't interact with males.. you're really going that direction?" and stuff like that.> Pekora often does that in sponsorships streams y'know?> People who watch Pekora a lot would be like "Ah Pekora likes dragonball a lot, so of course she'd do it".> For those that don't, they'd be like "oh is that so.. even though she doesn't interact with them much in streams.. is that so.."> I mean they're free to have their own opinions. And I can't help if they feel that way.> *gets distracted again*> But those guys, y'know? Pretty much none of them are nousagi y'know?> There's some people who are like "shall we trouble the other side as well? lol".> There's people who RT stuff like that who I've never seen during my egosa.> There might be some among nousagis as well, but for the most part when I do egosa I don't see stuff like that among you guys.> I see some people whining about it and I check their profile, and they've never RTed me or even interacted with me on twitter.> They literally only talked about me to flame me for that incident. That's who most complaints were from.> "Don't mind them that much" - chat.> Eh I don't really care. I know you guys understand.> So which side are you guys on? Do you want your idol to tell you to chase your own happiness or not?> I think it's a difficult question.
>>87222208They called a nigga Trout
>>87222208>niga trout
>>87222242As far as the genre goes, he is slightly more mainstream sound but he was definitely one of the best
>>87221639If they’re going to save a sheep it better be Mememe and the rest of Idolbu and Siro from .live. Goddamn it Yagoo, they’re literally the same thing as Hololive, they’re basically Hololive before Hololive, they’d fit right in.
>>87222260Kek
>>87221620Why didn’t you guys invite me…
why can't cover delay mumei's merch announcement?
>>87222170This was on my playlist when I was playing CS:S
>>87221798This amount of headcanon is how beggars survive these days. It’s quite sad, actually, to live in a complete fantasy world because the real one is too unpalatable to them. The reality is not that the homos are “favorites” in any way, but that they’re an awful investment with a no-win way forward >disband them with the loss of investment and potential blowback>try to salvage the investment or at least limit the losses to a manageable levelThis is a much more reasonable explanation than the boomer “son I never had” homobeggar fantasy
>>87222315idk tell that to henma or kronma
>>87221837I agree, Holostars should’ve never existed. But it’s clear that from a social standpoint, management is probably more emotionally involved with those faggots than they are the girls. They’re keeping them around defies all logic. It’s all based on feelings than reality.
>>87222339it's "kumomane" now
>>87222260Basically you're not a true nousagi if you don't support her male collabs because according to pekora true nousagis are fine with cuckolding
>>87222208huh that strangely coincidental with the new yab leakswonder if there is a connection
>>87221798This reminds me of how yagoo talked about axel in such a favorable light very early on. Something like “I always wanted to have a yankee with a heart of gold” or something
>>87222348I'm not some business expert but can't you have multiple separate corpos?
>>87222057>westerners love femboys and gender bending in generalYes anon, as proven by the myriad of indie male vtubers and vtweeters fitting this description that made it big. Why does every conversation about the topic devolves to>REAL MALW VTUBERS HAVE NEVER BEEN TRIED AND IF ONLY THEY TRIED Xwhen there are dozens of attempts of X that failed miserably. The reality is: there is no market for male vtubers that is not already served by non vtubers without the animesque avatar debuff
>>87222279Sheep, Siro, Mememe, watames friend from unilive and that 2view matsuri is grooming will be jp7
>>87221921Mental health is hard man even if you don’t get someone whose response to being told to take pills is that he knows they’re a unicorn plot to poison him.
>>87221837B-but what about the potential audience that niji has with their bois!
>>87222208What the fuck? That’s Lunlun wavemate, no?
>>87222368he said something about brotubers in that interview, i don't know how they got dramatuber instead
>>87222057Yeah that’s why Aster is the undisputed KING OF NIJIEN wait no at their peak the top Luxiem were guy in a suit and anime sherlock
>>87222422It should be, unless I missed a new JP wave
>>87222422Nah, this guy is from the wave that debuted 2 months after Lunlun. The one with the 3view Yuru Yuri girl.
>>87222422no, its the new loli baker wavemate
>>87222348In a way that leads to favoritism and neglect for their main branch as we've experienced in EN 2022. Though I still dislike the fact they're still trying to the same thing all over again with erb.
>>87222348>it’s clear>source my asshole
>>87222260AIIIYEEE
>>87222456>>87222458Holy shit, I did miss a wave. Lol
>>87222260Deleted=true btw
Niche things get consumed when everything else to consume is either finished or uninteresting.Female vtubers exist, so male vtubers will never matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMUtZeBt2iIIKZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>87222057Thats not fucking true if not the red twink homostar and that one purple from niji would have much bigger numbers, but instead they are at the bottom of the barrel. Those 4 degenerates asking for femboys and shotas are all concentrated in this board, outside of here no one asked for it.
Machine gun CC
>>87222396>as proven by the myriad of indie male vtubers and vtweeters fitting this description that made it bigyeah unlike the myriad of female vtubers and vtweeters that made it big. there is NO VTUBING INDUSTRY OUTSIDE OF HOLOLIVE.>Why does every conversation about the topic devolves to "real male vtubers have never been tried"Because they HAVEN'T. There are only two companies capable of producing successful vtubers historically and only one now and both of them blatantly fucked it up.>>87222443Those vtubers are for chinese OLs to buff their muffs to. They never had a significant western fandom and couldn't mix with the existing culture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0YrvdlAcdI>biding holo member personal itemhope someday they will do this for real for charity shit
holy shit someone was playing with ayame
>>87222260Nousakek avoiding this truth
>>87222577>for charity>godless Japanese people
>>87222222wasted numbers
>>87222577Bath water auction
>>87222544this is the future of hololive
/jp/ dogfuckers are flooding global and praising the nijiclown again
>>87222577do they even do charity stream
>>87222562They had more than Flayon or Octavio or Aster or Kyo or god knows how many twitch sexpests
>>87222598any reason ok even for abortion cost, i just want see big number
>>87222260As a nousagi I am disappointed
So do the japs not care about male collabs or what? Is it really just the west that get so assmad over them?
>>87222544I ship them harddddddddddddddd if this relationship continues
>>87222626https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QubT5PreIY>by buying product
>>87222577>japanese corporation>charitypick one, EN branch don't count
>>87222654yeah
>>87222654The "walled garden" and "CGDCT" things have always been EOP redditor inventions.
>>87222260No wonder pekora is reclining and can only get numbers by leeching on other holomembers
I don't know why they make themselves so obvious
Another easy 5view stream for Raden.
>>87222334>Potential blowbackNobody will care about it. In fact, I'm sure their 'fans' would realize 3 months later the homos were gone. It will be the same as dumb and dumber, everyone will be celebrating it, and only 3 fags will be crying for it.
>>87222260>Nips don't care>Pekora viewers reclinedKek
why can't they stop leeching from more succesful holos?
>>87222705why dont they do it in their own board tho, they talk about hololive there too
>>87222766I have a theory that's never been fully debunked that I'm the most important person in the universe and everything is for my attention.I'm sorry.
>>87222753>Literally zero proof
>>87222757Retard
>>87222562>there is NO VTUBING INDUSTRY OUTSIDE OF HOLOLIVE.Anon, there are a myriad of girls from big corpos, small corpos and even indies that found quite a deal of success even outside of Hololive. The same can’t be said for male vtubers. There are 12 right now with an average ahead of 5k and that number is going down quickly.
>>87222766because the tards were banned from /jp/
>>87222757why english?
>>87222780>>87222805Would
Raden won
>>87222260Same energy
>>87222852KEK
>>87222817>if you have a png on the bottom right you are a vtuber >doesn't matter if you post irl pics, or do the same content as every twitch streamer out there, or go to cons as your irl self but say you are the characterpewdiepie i kneel!
Top streams right now
>>87222260JPcucks...
>>87222882why that game so buff, even risu got 2K
>>87222867>it's ok when Japan does ithttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9VqnG2Yx--wWitfHvJRe9A
>>87222260>>87222800Kek
>>87222852well now she's crying how she can't move to japan cause she doesn't have enough money LOLwonder how that happenedwhy won't her "boyfriend/girlfriend/husband/wife" supporting her huh?
>>87222921Gacha + fotm
>>87222943>cherrypicking
>>87222944nousakek deflection post
>>87222944What happened to pekomoona
>>87222928>it's not ok when japan does itOnly hololive is true vtubing everyone else is just grifting
11k dorya! Collab with male gets number simple as and I hope ERB realized this soon and formed another salt with mori and kronii.
Man thread really is so dead that 80% of posts are just shitty recycled bait
>>87222943How are his recent streams looking?
>>87222994As is always the case whenever eurotards are in the thread
