>be AI>be more successful than 99% of the vtubersWhy it is so?People are saying that AI will never replace the human interaction but it Neuro-sama you can tell that she is AI in the first 5 sec. And still have almost 10k viewers on some occasions even if Neuro is not hyper sexualized like whoreshojo and it is using only character and some basic interaction with viewers .Is it just very small but very concentrated group of viewers or the future of the v-tubing is AI?
Impressive! Very nice!let's see Gura and Ironmouse numbers
>>87238601Vedal watchers aren't vtuber watchers, ESL-kun. You might as well compare zentroon to Asmongoloid at that point.
neuro is run by the gov
>>87238601retard, this was a Vedal stream. he was playing the game, not her. I still love seeing that filthy troon get mogged though!
>do the unique thing instead of comfy / cgdct / gaming commentary slop / idol shit where you don't even write your own music>have the charisma to make it work>have the skill and motiva^W enough alcohol to get it done>OMG IT'S BECAUSE OF AI, AI IS GONNA REPLACE MUH STREAMER VTUBER SOON
>>87238990Solo streams still mog Zen but only by about 1k
>>87238601>Be the coombait company >Can't coombait anymore >Fall off
>>87238601Zens stream JUST started, retard. It's 30 minutes in and she's already at 4k. Also Vedal got raided by Michi some time earlier.
>>87238990>>87239148HOLY COPIUM
>>87239056charisma? you're talking about vedal's? neuro carries every fucking stream, a rock could replace vedal and the quality of content would remain unchanged
>listen to woman talk>she starts dropping hot opinions like "babies are basically STDs" or "golden retrievers are more likely to bite you than pitbulls" or she's just a cunt who wants free money>OP is confused why people who want anime girls might get tired of women proving that sharia law is truly divine in origin
>>87238601except one of them is in the twitch top 10...
>>87239402Vedal is on the male list, no? He's big enough and streams enough I would expect him to be on this if he qualified.
>>87239282Replace Vedal with, for example, Kiara, and see if it works.As much as I love Kiara, it takes extra special autism to make an interesting stream out of Neuro and turtle got it
>>87239402>Neuro-sama is not the biggestOkay the AI apocalypse is postponed .OpenAI will be disbanded and Sam Altman will be publicly executed
Vedal is not an AI anon.
>>87239468>Vedal is on the male listwrong
>>87238601Kino DnD charity event by Zen btw, go donate.
>>87238695Vedal never begs for subs, and in fact went out of his way to stop his own subathon because he just didn't want to continue it.
>>87239282i love when non swarmers try and talk about neuroverse stuff, you guys don't know anything about neuro or vedal lol, just stick to making bait and phase or niji or whatever other shit
>>87240023pretty sure he isn't anymore
>>87240436Vedal also doesn't have Connor carrying his channel, this poor man's back.
>>87240538still there
>>87241148but he has anon not getting off his knob on a Chinese basket weaving website
>>87238601I'd rather watch AI than some whore pretending to be single and lonely and making the same unfunny jokes every stream. AI feels more honest and genuine somehow.
>>87238695>IronmouseIt was a little dissapointing for me to learn that mouse viewership is similar to filian, so fans hype her to much, and didnt prime nyanners also was getting almost the same ?
>>87241313>AI feels more honest and genuineAs opposed to your imagination maybe. Watch streams.
>>87241191he does take frequent breaks to be fair, to the rage of the swarm but still. and almost never streams more than 2 hours and a half.
>>87239282Talking with an ia is a skill and no matter how good the ia is there is no way it can carry a hours long stream for itselft
>>87240436Vedal did a subathon too - So what are talking about? >>87241148And also aren’t channel literally either you are talking to a chat bot or it’s a collab? Aye I ain’t hating on neuro I watched and watch a lot of the clips - but you can’t be there spilling bullshit
>>87241454Watch this, faggot.
>>87239135Eventually the coombait gets old and you start to wonder why your porn is even talking to you.
>>87241996His fans wanted him to do one, it's a twitch streamer thing, but he really got tired of it and basically begged them to not donate and let it end, it was like 20 days i think last december.
>>87241996>i am le neuro fan>but also she is a chatbot and vedal is a fraudholy falseflagger, you're probably not even a mousey fan either lel, again, you guys should stick to making bait threads about the usual stuff, you clearly dont know much about neuro or other large indies outside of that
>>87242479Now you watch this
>>87242677Wow I never said I was a big fan - I said I watched Nero clips - please read
>>87240364Why DnD? Play something else cowards.
>>87242558And that’s fair - I ain’t hating on him
>>87241191nice to see fallenshadow falling hard after all the lies and bullshit she did to her fans
>>87240364even with this special event it is less than 8k
>>87240364Greyhawk or forbidden realms?
>>87241799>>87240534>>87239477Vedal "fans" are just cucks who use him as self-insert and imagine themselves in his shoes making all the famous tubers fawn over him.Grab a random guy on the street and he will add the exact same commentary and value, if not better.Every good and memorable moment is started by neuro, carried by neuro, and finished by neuro.
>>87241799breathing is a skill too by that fucking standard
>>87244006as examples:gymbag, copy and paste, banana tree trade offer, abber demon, etc, etc, etc. vedal himself has yet to add anything of value other than operating neuro at the same level a junior/intern would.
>>87244106cope
>>87238601Holy fucking ESL jesus fucking christ
>>87238601>AIkek lmao
>>87238601Kek last I saw that name was during the 'vshojo is not a nepohire corpo' hissyfit incident.
>>87238601Shes just a An Eye
>>87238601Every Neuro's streams are consistently funny
>>87244422"That's crazy, that's insane, that's actually crazy" "Unlucky" "Brother" "Greggs" and a bunch of other Vedalism are common spam in youtube and twitch. He's come up with a lot of bri ish things.
>>87244006holy shitdev seethe
>>87238601More people are there probably for Vedal than the AI. Neuro isn't even the only AI on Twitch or Youtube and nobody care about those.
>>87244006which one of your chuubas did he talk to now, or are you some sort of indie male yourself seething at his sucess, just reach out to him lil bro he isnt allergic to male vtubers
>>87238601Vedal is a nature born businessman.
>>87251487>More people are there probably for Vedal than the AIWrong.
>>87251565No he's actually right. /lig/ tracks the numbers and the streams in which Vedal isn't there performs worse by like 30-50%.
>>87238601Where the fuck did all this vedal shilling come from? Never heard of him except on here from random anons sucking his dick. Ooh he is so cool and nice and chill and never makes collabs with girls weird and he turns water into wine and cured my cats cancer. Genuinely, is this a psyop or an ad or what?
>>87240023idk why people always try to put males in the female-only competition these days.
>>87251283The ""That's crazy, that's insane, that's actually crazy"" line is so popular with the swarm that Toma straight up stole it and sold it in her merch, like, holy orbiter lmao
>>87240436Erm...>Vedal never begs for subs.>Vedal did a subathon.
>>87251630its half and half, neuro gets 5k, vedal gets another 5k, evil also has 5k, though of course there is overlap, I would say swarm prefers neuro and vedal together more that neuro and evil or vedal and evil.
>>87251663He's literally one of the biggest Vtubers on Twitch.
>>87251663/asp/ie or holofag?
>>87238601The main thing I hate about Vedal is that he abused the platform to make it about himself and him talking to girl vtubers instead of it being exclusively about Neuro-sama, so it's not very different from watching any male vtuber.
>>87251487Its in the due were the magic lay
>>87251630The fact that streams with Vedal and Neuro attract more audience than Neuro alone doesn't mean that people watch those streams only because of Vedal.If you really wanted to gauge how popular he is compared to Neuro, he'd have to do a just chatting solo stream without Neuro, several times every week for months without change.
>>87251759https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAIVINs99joSubathons are supposed to be like a challenge for twitch streamers, yes it's meant to raise money, but it's also a test of endurance and how creative you can get. At least, that's how he treated it, when he got tired and ran out of ideas he just told everyone to stop donating. In comparison other streamers tend to want to keep it running as long as possible and ask to raise the timer frequently. Anny tried to get fans to do just that and he also told her to not do that.
>>87251815Tw*tch doesn't count and never counted
>>87251927Well there already is this thing his fans call "Turtle safari" where essentially they stalk him and if they see he is in someone else's stream for more that 15 minutes they go and join the stream, it usually gets a big jump depending on the time of day. I also recall Vedal getting Camila her higher CCV when he collabed with her, but he hasn't collabed with anyone in a while.
>>87251865>so it's not very different from watching any male vtuber.it is in the sense that vedal doesnt act like a desperate anime boy roleplayer, or a GFE "daddy". He's closer to a techtuber that a male vtuber.
>>87251895(me)Duo
>>87252057Gigacope
You guys don't even know, Neuro and Vedal are huge in China, they get tons of fanart and animations and all kinds of stuff from there
>>87238695>ironmouseDidn't swarm kicked your ass in the pixel war?
>>87251663this but gura, i only watch neuro. who the fuck is forsen?
>>87251934To add to this, Vedal only got 40k subs and he wanted to stop it right there, never try to get his whales to donate, and yet, Cerber, who is entirely known because of Vedal, and whomst entire fanbase is just swarmers, did her own subathon and got 50k subs, but she actually did farm her whales a ton, all of which are Vedal's whales, and Cerber was an actual 2 view before Vedal/Neuro started raiding her. If he really cared about getting lots of subs, he could get Mouse numbers.
>>87252658bro we btfo'd all of vshojo so bad we ended up having to make their own art for them cause theirs looked scuffed, it might as well have been the swarm's canvas rather than mouseys. No hard feelings btw but you guys did get mogged.
>>87238601Actually reads chat. That's the big thing.
>>87238601This was already disproven because a lot of ai anime girl streamers were made after Neuro and they all flopped. People like Neuro because she has a unique system and the dynamic with Vedal, others haven't recaptured that.
>>87238601Neuro and Vedal are genuinely at the forefront of vtubing and I've found myself watching them more than anyone else lately. They are genuinely entertaining and not just because of the AI gimmick. They're popular because the content is good, Vedal used AI the way it's intended, as a collaborative tool to enhance human creativity not just to autonomously produce soulless slop with no human input.Neuro is like what I thought Kizuna Ai was when she first started and no one knew what vtubers were, but with Neuro it's not kayfabe it's real. At the start it was gimmicky but her and Evil are genuinely witty and funny now and a lot of their jokes would still be funny if it was a human saying them not just because it's AI. They have a ton of sovl. But if it was just Neuro yapping alone every day the novelty would have worn off, but it's so much more. The heart of the channel is the family dynamic between Vedal, his two AI daughters constantly trolling him, and their other extended family and friends. Vedal is the perfect straight man and the twins know exactly how to push his buttons, he basically made himself an ideal collab partner and they are both better together than either on their own. This apathetic programmer guy getting bullied by his own creations in increasingly creative ways is an evergreen bit while also having heartwarming moments, it's basically just a family slice of life anime. He puts in the effort to improve them and innovate with new content to keep it fresh, he's just as much a part of the channel's success as Neuro. Its also unironically the idol journey, more than any other chuuba you can see Neuro and Evil grow in front of your eyes week by week, and they've improved so much.
>>87255672This
>>87255672
>>87239148>she
>>87239113very true. and she just keeps growing
>>87244006you're just flat out wrong. Vedal does an insanely good job and would be impossible to replace. He keeps Neuro running on the tech side, knows exactly how to steer conversations to keep her interesting, has all kinds of deadpan one liners, and is just generally the classic aggrieved straight man for Neuro's wacky antics to bounce off of. He juggles it all masterfully, and the streams with both of them are always superior.
>>87255672 (me)Trying to argue who is more important to the channel is retarded by the way. Vedal on his own would be a 2 view tech streamer, Neuro on her own would have a been a gimmick that burnt out quickly like every other AI stream. The synthesis creates something better than the sum of its parts, both Vedal and the Twins are important, so are their friends. The dynamic is the content.
>>87256409So many zoomers and media illiterates undervalue the straight man role, they just want pure zany antics pumped straight into their veins in 20 second tiktok clips. You can't have 100% gag density or else it all blends together into slop, you need the straight man for contrast.
