Wicked Pisser EditionWelcome to /vsj+/! A thread to discuss VShojo and vtubers who frequently associate with them.Henya is LIVE! And as of this writing it's epic lunch time. But given how long this has been going for and the speed of the catalogue chances are she'll be back to Silent Hill 2 when this thread goes up. Alternatively if you want some VShojocraft then Saiiren is LIVE! And is doing exactly that. That's it for now so keep things comfy and civilb y ignoring and especially reporting bait, and being excellent to each other.Image source: https://twitter.com/TaiRantsYT/status/1845267677205627171VShojo is:Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot | https://www.youtube.com/@ApricotFrootGEEGA - https://www.twitch.tv/geega | https://www.youtube.com/@GEEGAHaruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu | https://www.youtube.com/@HarukaKaribuHenya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius | https://www.youtube.com/@henyathegeniusHime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime | https://www.youtube.com/@himehajime1570Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou | https://www.youtube.com/@ksonONAIRKuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro | https://www.youtube.com/@K9KUROMata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan | https://www.youtube.com/@MataraKanMel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody | https://www.youtube.com/@projektmelodyMichi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee | https://www.youtube.com/@MichiMochieveeMouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse | https://www.youtube.com/@IronMousePartyZen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya | https://www.youtube.com/@zentreyaOfficial Channels - https://www.twitch.tv/vshojo | https://www.youtube.com/@VShojoRelated:総長 + 会長 for dedicated Kson discussion/999/ for dedicated Henya discussion/mouse/ for dedicated Mouse discussion/lig/ and /big/ for extended + and former member discussionPrevious Thread: >>87399985
Don't do it....
>>87420257>Alternatively if you want some VShojocraft then Saiiren is LIVEMight as well call it Pluscraft at this point
>>87420404Imma fuck this entire pussy.
>>87420494stop reading the op if it always triggers you this much
I can fix Zen
>>87420623Are you mistaking me for someone else? Sounds like you're the one who's triggered over something someone else did.
>>87420643You should start by fixing me a sandwich
>>87420863sure brother
>>87420575
>>87420257Good summary, not mentally ill
Holy shit, he really does look like Aethel.
I’m kinda liking this stamp rally, it’s ambiguous in its stake but it allows me to see rare collab combos. even Hime is streaming a bunch
>>87420988sure sister
>>87421192yeah it's pretty kewl
there is someone in henya chat going crazy because she refuses to heal KEK
Sexga
sexwith henya
sexwith anons
>>87421759Nobody wants your unwashed fujo pussy Emmy
>>87421759I want your unwashed fujo pussy Emmy
Guys I think Henya might be retarded
>>87421192There's a reason why everyone has kept quiet about the prizeBut it's not some big prize if Henya is not joining despite the debuff.
The Froot poster turning out to be a girl addicted to Monster has been a disaster for this thread...
>>87421932what gave it away
>>87422041I think it's a improvementGirls with low standards are the girls for me
>>87422041>The Froot posterthere are half a dozen of us
>>87421932Why do you have to resort to lies and slander, anon?
>>87422172What kind of energy drink do you consume?
>>87422172Damn, must be most of the female population of this website
Well, this is awkward
henya crazy long stream. I just noticed it's almost 2am, fuck another sleepy day tomorrow.
>sees woman>instantly tries to murder her
>>87422808The break up with roomie turned her straight
>>87422808Henya doesn't suffer literal succubae to exist in this world.
>>87420973I am waiting for you
I'm gonna say itMaria's new outfit is better, I like those kinds of dresses on girls
>>87422172>there are half a dozen of usJust say 5
There is at least one person who knows who Zen is
>>87423343yeahmy wife
>>87420257Mouse is also collabing with her Best Friend on his channel with satisfactory
>>87423343zen is simply too sexy
Henya wants to have sex with woman?
>>87423899https://files.catbox.moe/79tqjr.jpeg
>>87423899Man I Love Haruka Karibu
>>87423941Literally me
okay I think the outfit is just about done. I can try a bit more with the top but I really odn't think I'm going to be able to pull it off. Also emphasis on outfit. After this I'm going to do a second card with the lighter skin, different hair, and slightly different face and eyes. So enjoy the finished outfit on the old body and I'll do the rest soon. It's under Casual Clothes if anyone wants to mess with it as it is. https://files.catbox.moe/1ltopq.png
>>87423418I mean knows who Zen is and personally knows the person behind the model
Geega lewds are required
>>87424115
>>87424115Disgusting horndog
Saiiren is going crazy on Vshojocraft
We currently have 3 active splits. Will there also be a VShojoJP split when we get more JP members?
>>87424359Depends on the discussion, if JP actually becomes a thing, it wouldn't hurt anyone to mix up the Kson + Henya + New JPs together
>>87424115Geega and Melhttps://twitter.com/MrMothSecret/status/1845158139714470090
>>87424359we need a split for every member
>>87422041>implying theres only one
>>87424450What would Geega say if she saw this?
>>87421759>>87422172>>87424586
Saiiren's about to get a big raid.
>>87424718Request denied.
Henya raids Connor san
>>87424786I guessed wrong
>>87424791I've never wished my name was Connor more than every time I hear Henya say Connor san.
>>87424586
Every time I hear Mouse say Connor my love I wish my name was Connor
What is jp up to?
>>87425003
>>87425003Christmas Event in Animate
>>87425053It's over
https://x.com/fryinghokke/status/1844780683895386411
>>87425003It's always merch
>>87424244Geega should correct me by letting me have sex with her
>>87425210gonna need the cum cup for that one
Some VShojo JP /in/ posting from the 5ch thread.
>>87425571They're as retarded as us
mouse needs her bombs and artillery
>>87425571That's what I've been thinking.
>>87425855why did she get fired?
Henya drives a Benz right?
>>87424075Wait I fixed a couple things. Mildly updated. Then I wanted to get goofy with it and make a pic so there you go. More tomorrow for the last big update. https://files.catbox.moe/r2sbsp.png
All Frootposters are women. I will never get boners to your teasing ever again.
>>87426256This is a slanderous falsehood. I am a man with sweaty balls.
Geega is my wifeMichi is my girlfriendHenya is my son
>>87426441forced_masculinization should be a tag
>>87426441Actually Michi is my girlfriend
Saiiren is almost done with her Halloween building in Vshojocraft. It's a fully operational ferris wheel.
>>87426760did she end up using create or some other weird one
>>87427291I couldn't watch much of the process, but I think she did use create.
I want to make the funny haha, anyone know the best place to get samples of everyone?
love that while connor is diligently putting together the factory mouse is off on another murder spree
>>87427790Like the site renders? danbooru: akagi art and vshojo
>>87428265as mouse said earlier she doesn't want to live in a world where she can't murder
I will never find someone like her
brb buying some shady floor pills from mouse
sorry about that
>>87426760Glad to see she's doing well.
bump
I love the pink rat.
>>87430471just let us die
I want to be Geega's Connor
I want to be Geega's Aethel
>>87430526just be buddha but without the wife, the gambling sponsorship and a larger social battery
Geega should rebrand as an Eldar
>>87430471It's so over
>8 hour Henya VODwe are so back, holy fuck
>>87430741which one
>>87430819Ynnari
it's OVER for ironmouse
>>87431025bing chilling
>>87431025why would silver do this
>>87431025fuck yes, finally. i hope cena kicks down im’s door and smashes her head against a wall until she dies
>>87431025Ok, but how funny would it be if he wasn't able to get the record back.
>>87425571You don't want another ex-holo that was forced out of her corpo, you want an ex-holo who left willingly
>>87431025I don't get it, why was he screaming like a madman as John Cena entered? It was definitely rehearsed but it felt fake as fuck.
>>87431548>basketball american making incomprehensible noises that's his entire stream content.
>>87431548loud = funny
>>87431449The better question is what management wants out of JP.Growing mid 3-views on Twitch with platform synergy, going slow and steady, or try the Nazuna strategy again and pick up another ex-Holo who will main YouTube and have no group synergy except with Kson?Hoping that they wouldn't cave to the Holo temptation again and instead make an honest bet on Twitch JPs.
>>87431025She already won considering this will just draw even more eyes on her.
>>87431025But kai loves mouse. He said so himself.
>>87431449I honestly don't care what they do as long as we get to 5 jp members.Getting Rica to make a splash and some indie JP's who can ride the wave would be great imo.
Are we glad Meicha will never get hired?
>>87431904I for one am happy he will never join VShojo yes. Popular opinion by the way.
Did Saiiren get into Vshojo and this is their way of pumping up her viewership?
>>87431928Better her than the tranny.
>>87431904Yep. He sucks. I'm happy he's out.
>>87431904>>87431926>>87431950>>87432001Just go back to seething about Mouse
>>87432036he's so mentally ill he thinks people are buying it
>>87432050People do buy it. Why do you think Mei is disliked /here/. I even got them to believe he's a poltard. He got gatekept from VShojo because of me.
>>87432057Same, fuck connor
Are we glad the samefagger is this retarded?
>>87431872The ideal JP for VShojo would be someone who put in the hours like Henya and Michi, is motivated to take every chance at building relationships, and isn't obsessed with esports shit.
>>87431872Getting rica would just be repeating the nazuna situation again, same if we got rectangle
>>87432117You don't actually like Mei right? >>87432092Shut up tard. Hey Mei, Meicha, MeichaFox guaranteed to see when you egosearch. I'm glad you failed the auditions you worthless fag. You ruined VShojo for me and I hope Zentreya and IronMouse drop you so you stay the fuck away from the other livers and VShojo as a whole. You will never join, you will never have real friends, you will never be happy, and you will fall off and become a 2 view. You will be irrelevant and your debut a flop.
>>87432191Green triangle* kek my bad
>>87432191>rectanglekek
>>87432191>Getting rica would just be repeating the nazuna situation againlol, no. Rica doesn't have unicorns to begin with.
I'm glad Mei is out.
Michi, go live
I'm glad my cock is out
Michi Nathaniel Mochievee you are so fucking cute
>>87432282Seek God. Stop simping for a mentally ill man who will never join VShojo. He's a ticking time bomb.
>>87432242Nazuna's unicorns were just a small part of the problem.It was her lack of motivation and lack of understanding that JP is something that she and Kson would have to build up together that caused her to give up and go back to Mike for easy superchats. She wasn't stable mentally and definitely didn't have the foresight to invest in a long term project.
>>87432617So? Why do you think that applies to Rica?
>>87432617This. Sadly I don't think most ex-holos know that unlike leaving a black corpo like niji it's seldom a celebration from fans who worship a brand and that return buff won't last them long.I don't want any more ex-nijis but at least with ones like michi they've worked the hardest in the first month and treated it like it was their last and only chance
I'm holding hands with Candii.
I won you guys are whipped. You conceded. Mei will never join VShojo. His debut will be a flop. I'm happy.
>>87432798WHOOOOOORE
good night
>>87432888too big
>>87432684Wasn't that anon you replied to, but what I'm saying is that Rica would be fine if she's willing to stream more and keep going unlike Nazuna. She wouldn't be a good pick if she's gonna stick to YouTube, be unmotivated, and cruise along with 1-2 streams per week while complaining about making much more on YouTube than Twitch.VShojoJP is a new thing that requires hard work and commitment, I'm all for Rica if she shows the required qualities. Question is, will she?
mei will join vshojo
>>87432969I will kill myself if that happens. He does not deserve it. He is not talented enough.
>>87432888Decent slop
>>87431025Couldn't let it sit for even a couple weeks, kinda sad on his part
>>87432684While not specific to rica on her own, most current members of holo are more than happy staying there doing the exact same routines while raking in easy money for the rest of their lives. If they suddenly get fired they're completely unprepared for the current state of vtubing and as evidenced seldom have any plans on how to move forward or grow without the blue dorito and thus put a lot of that expectation into having whichever new corp takes them to do that job for them.Unlike with someone like kson and on the EN side dooby who left on their own accord bc they already have plans for their future and know how to network and hold their own
>>87432957I don't see why sticking to youtube would necessarily be a bad thing.
>>87433179Rica is already networking on her own though? She had a collab with Delutaya just the other day. Comparing her to Nazuna just isn't fair.
>>87432957Nta but to add to that vshojo's whole talent freedom schick is about talents having the freedom to choose how they want to grow and use those resources to tell their managers on how they can help them do that. Nazuna's biggest flaws was that she kept expecting her manager to tell her exactly what to do with no direction of her own which defeats the purpose of having said freedom
someone go live
>>87433284The damage Hololive did to her is incredible
why are you even arguing about this?
>>87433411Because I like Rica and I think she could end up here.
Good discussion, actually enjoyed reading it in transit.
>>87433180>VShojo has nothing to offer on YouTube, no viewers. It eventually leads to the same question about why she would want to be /in/ despite getting almost nothing out of the deal.>YouTube means less interactions and relationship building with other members.>YouTube has no growth potential, you're competing against Hololive as a JP. Nta but Kson's channel is a good example.>There's a small and growing market for JP variety on Twitch with tons of low 3 views who couldn't break through the 100-200 viewers ceiling. You want to get on it before others take away any space that's available. If JP started with a few Twitch indies, they would have a couple 4 views by now.
>>87433484>I think she could end up herelol, if VShojo had really wanted this, she would have been here. that ship sailed a long time ago.
>>87433411Because this is a vsj+ thread and anons are talking about vshojo's future.
>>87433711vshojo's future is entirely determined by zens tit size. The smaller they are, the worse the future gets and the bigger they are, the better it will become. If they don't change, it means we are on course.
>>87433651Kson already streams on Youtube so it's not like other Vshojo JP shouldn't do that.It would also help diversify Vshojo's platform options.>why she would want to be /in/ despite getting almost nothing out of the deal.She would get merch, sponsors, events and management. It's worth it even if it's not a big CCV buff on the JP side at the moment.>YouTube means less interactions and relationship building with other members.That's only relevant for raids.>YouTube has no growth potential, you're competing against Hololive as a JP. Nta but Kson's channel is a good example.There are various JP indies who stream on youtube and get good numbers. There's also no reason why Vshojo would want to avoid competing with Hololive over viewers, there's a ton of Vtuber fans on youtube that could end up watching some Vshojo streams.>There's a small and growing market for JP variety on Twitch with tons of low 3 views who couldn't break through the 100-200 viewers ceiling. You want to get on it before others take away any space that's available. If JP started with a few Twitch indies, they would have a couple 4 views by now.Not saying that twitch is a bad option for future vshojo JP members, I just don't see it as necessary for a new addition to be good.
>>87433657If she gets her live2d and she's not joining right there and then I agree.
>>87433216Collabing with another ex-holo that also got kicked out is hardly networking anon, and no offense to rica bc i don't know about her well enough but I'm primarily stating what current vshojoJP wants from new talents.It just seems to me that they're now less likely to take another chance on another ex-corpo talent that will be less likely to innovative with their resources as opposed to fresh new talent with the same drive as a zoomer like mitchi who are willing to grind like crazy and try new things
https://x.com/K9_KURO/status/1845809738434646265
I thought Hime was going to do a stamp rally collab with Kuro today. I guess it was moved to another day again.
>>87434228why in the world is his schedule in jst?
>>87434278it has always been like that, and no one knows the offset of WIB
>>87434187She also had multiple collabs with jp indies I don't even know. Delutaya was just one example. And we will see what Vshojo wants but personally I feel like Rica would likely be a good addition.
6 days kuro stream? NOWAYING
>>87434228>>87434235Welp. Today was my day off and I can't watch him the rest of the week because of work.
https://x.com/Shin_Apost/status/1845516534090993752
Zen suckhttps://x.com/Joltorito/status/1845520593678107018
Froot live https://www.twitch.tv/apricothttps://www.twitch.tv/apricothttps://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Froot live and cute.
>>87431025This reminder me of that meme
>>87435297>cuteproof?
>>87435352
>>87434092Related to this but - is there a reason vshojo doesn’t multistream? - is it a tech, community issue or something. And also why most of them don’t stream on YouTube in general? I swear there was a clip of mouse talking about it but now that I am looking for it I can’t find it.
>>87435643multistreaming doesn't really work, it only splits your audience between platforms and its harder to moderate chat
>>87435643Almost no one multistreams. There's very few streamers who are willing to brave the technical and practical difficulties to do it consistently.
>>87435643its splits your audience, which is a big issue if you want to have sponsors
>>87435828they look a lil heavier than usual
>>87420257Started watching Matara and Kuro's yapping today. >the two dots thing was not manager taking over the account, but Matara helping Michi with the writing.Absolute obliterration
>>87435643You would think ti works on paper, but reality is that it splits your audience, the added stress to your PC doesn’t really help out having that and having to moderate two chats is a nightmare
>>87435888It seems like Mata was basically the driving factor in getting Mika /out/, and thank god for that. She's way happier and more successful, she would be languishing now if she was stuck there.
>>87435696>>87435733>>87435793>>87436050Ahh I see - thanks for the reply
spooky underbooba
>>87436120I wonder if she also talked about something like that with somebody else
someone posted the Cenna video in kai stream of LSF and one of the comments made me laugh, imagine...
>>87435643Multistream doesn't work unless you're small and want to increase chance of blowing up from meeting new people or getting lucky raids.Once you've become big enough with stable viewers you want to focus on a platform and grow. Multistreaming splits the viewers, cause you to be smaller relatively, creates content that can't appeal to both sides, and might even create viewer tribalism.Have you watched Lime's streams? She has many youtube and tiktok tourists who come onto her streams and are surprised she isn't just the cute vtuber seiso girl they saw in her clips.
>>87431025Subathons are so fucking stupid. Kai is a multimillionaire with an audience of broke af black teenagers and he's begging them for money for a month straight by roping in celebrities and it's all for profit. Mouse's 50% going to charity is starting to look pretty good.The worst thing is that they'll break the record and it'll be celebrated as if it's somehow a good thing and not a huge embarrassment for the website.
>>87435793I think simulcast only makes sense for irl events, cause there is no real chat interaction.
>>87436392Haruka?She has my vote
>>87431872>>87432957>>87433179>>87434344I would like to see Rica make it if she is willing to adjust but as things stand I don't think she would be a good fit at all. Similar but different to Nazuna.As the other anon said, she is unprepared for modern vtubing and what is even worse is she is extremely stubborn and resistant to changing or seeking help. Even when she had a whole corporate environment to fall back upon she almost never reached out for things beyond collabs. I'm not sure if that was due to a lingering distrust from 2019/2020 events or if she doesn't like the idea of wasting others' time with inane requests. The unfortunate result however is she is more akin to a 2018 NND streamer than a modern day streamer. All she really has going for her is her ASMR and her cute voice and personality for the most part. She would be an extremely bad fit for VShojo culture and I don't think she would make any effort to adjust, if anything she would probably retract in horror at some of the more aspects of it while kindly joking to not make the situation too awkward publicly. She used to be alot more loose but in the last couple of years she has gotten a bit more hung up on certain topics and has 'talks' with her viewers about right and wrong every so often.I also doubt she will ever be able to maintain a consistent and active streaming schedule. She has the occasional burst periods but those all fizzle out within a week or two before she falls back into old habits or has some health issue.All in all, she honestly isn't all that much of an online content creator. And I'm not sure if she is willing to learn new tricks to broaden her appeal. It'd be great if she put effort to learn and get a better grasp of english, it'd be great if she expanded her talk deck to include more topics than the same banal trio of hers (food, beauty tips and manga/anime), it'd be great if she showed more of an inclination to play video games that were outside her comfort zone. An improved Rica would make an amazing addition to VShojo but as things stand now, she would make for an awkward fifth appendage that would rot at the stump.
>>87436392I dont think he will get nominated for the Keighleys cause loud=funny only is entertaining for low iq basketball americans and kids.
>>87436435the fact that mouse beat him with a smaller audience and no celebrities make it even more funny/sad. Man could not even wait a month, HE NEEDS TO PROVE THA HE IS THE NUMBER ONE!
>>87436721>Kson collabFinally
>>87436721>life is strangenot this shit again
>>87436644calm down, Adolf Hitler
>>87436435Who cares. That guy averages over 100k viewers, 10x Mouse's size. He's eventually going to beat her and get the spot back.Don't really care for Mouse holding the record, it's more important that she did it once and got her name out there. There's nothing to be gained by holding the record because news sites aren't going to report it for every extra month you keep it.
>>87436384Well if she did, it doesn't seem to have worked out.
>>87436835it just means next year mouse will make more money for IDF
>>87436384mint
>>87436721>quinnWtf didn't he just had a yab. Goddammit
>>87436661Kai's content is completely unpalatable for anyone over 20. Mouse has a long line of simps, concern fags and oilers who have deep pockets with the audience being older in general. Kai on the other hand will be squeezing blood out of a stone with his demographic being literally the brokest most unemployed people in society who shouldn't be donating to anything. I think it's genuinely just an evil thing to do to try to squeeze these people for money, which is what irks me about it. It's not even for any cause, it's just vanity.
>>87436384>>87436903I know she and Mata are still friends but I don't think she had as much reason to want out right away as NotMichi. Mika was dealt multiple shit hands, between lack of support from the company, her branch getting shut down and getting folded into JP, she herself fitting in better with the EN audience and streamers but not being able to get support from the EN branch (because she was "technically ID/JP"), etc. etc. Her situation was already dire by the time Mata would've been encouraging her to leave.I don't know as much about Rosemi. Obviously the company itself has systemic issues but if she herself isn't having any serious issues there it makes sense for her to stick with what she sees as the "safe option," and pressuring her to leave might have the opposite effect.
day ruined btw
day saved btw
>>87436721I have never watched Life is Strange, I will not have time to watch it before her stream on Tuesday, what the fuck do I do?
>>87437257games are very loosely connected, you should be fine
>>87436620Holy essay.But yea I don't dislike Rica but as the saying goes old dogs don't learn new tricks. VshojoJP needs new blood who can go ham with the grind like that pink dog Koyori girl in HoloJP.There are many indies on Twitch for the picking and I'd rather those be given a chance.
>>87437298This one is a direct sequel to the first one with Max back as the main character
why does froot imitate a cowboy thats been shot in the stomach whenever she does this accent
>>87437486unless she is gonna yap about chloe all the time, i don't see the issue
god i love froot
>I love grey cold and rainy weather Froot lives in the perfect country
>>87437378>Old dogs don't learn new tricksAnd she is as old (not actual age but career length) as it gets with regards to an online presence in vtubing circles, 14 years according to her recent anniversary celebration.
>>87437631Did Michi like Chloe and the Max/Chloe ship?From what I've seen from fandom folks, they're majorly pissed because of the opposite with them seemingly broken up after denying death's attempts to take her if you pick the option saying you saved Chloe
On the topic of JPs, these are the indies currently live. Removed all corpo channels. The nice thing about Twitch is that streams can be filtered by tags, languages, and sorted to find indie channels unlike YT.A few interesting ones like this which is very Holo-likehttps://www.twitch.tv/merunmorinoBut of course people wouldn't watch because no blue dorito.
>>87438212>interesting>very Holo-likethese statements are opposites
