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==REMINDER TO ALL MENHERA==>M: Please don't get merch because you feel pressured or anything like that. DON'T do anything that you don't want to. We really mean it, okay?>F: So you know, maybe you're like, "Oh, well, you know, maybe if I make a clip maybe more people will discover FUWAMOCO from there!" - it's true, but maybe you REALLY don't like video editing... Maybe don't that.>M: However you want to, okay?>F: You know, oshikatsu's supposed to be fun! You know, just tweeting, being loud ->M: Being HERE with us!>F: Yeah!>M: That's all - that's MORE that we can ask for!>F: Yeah, being like, "Ah! My best friend, you know, I REALLY like these vtubers called FUWAMOCO!". You know, those kinds of things, you know...>M: So, please, don't feel like, "Oh, THIS Ruffian is doing all this and I'M not doing ANYTHING"...>F: No. You know, oshikatsu is fun for everybody and ANYBODY!>M: You should never feel like that, okay? So PLEASE don't compare yourselves to somebody else, okay?>F: We just want you to have fun. You shouldn't feel pressure.>M: We don't want you to disappear because of something, you know...>F: Yeah, so, you know... if your smile's in trouble...>*Both shake their heads*>M: Just don't worry, we just want you to be here with us.>F: Yeah, we wanna protect your smile and have fun together, Ruffians!>M: You got it? It's not work! It should be FUN! We understand that you compare yourselves to others and stuff like that... SO THAT'S WHY WE SAY "DON'T"! We get it, you know? Because we felt it too before, okay? *reads chat message* You wish you could superchat more? IT'S OKAY! DON'T WORRY! We want you to have fun.>F: And you know, it's the little things that count, too, you know. So, just sending a tweet like, "BAU BAU!" - that helps, you know?>M: Yeah! Do what you can!>F: "I'm on break right now, you know! I had a real delicious sandwich! FUWAMOCO, I had a delicious sandwich!" ... You know, it makes us happy to know that you're thinking about us cause sometimes, you know, we get a little bit lonely. Like, "are the Ruffians thinking about us...?">M: Please don't worry, okay? *reads chat message* You can't write well? It's OKAY! Don't worry about it!>F: But it makes us really happy to know you're thinking about ways you can help us, Ruffians...>M: We don't want you to get sad and be like, "I can't enjoy FUWAMOCO anymore because I compare myself to other Ruffians", okay?
>>87495245>>87495267BAU BAU
FWMC wonRuffians wonSisters lost
Good nite
>>87495332Goodnight
Mococo did a good job and swallowed all of my ruffian cum today so she's good as new. Such a good girl!
>>87495245BAU BAU
>>87495231
I don't care for the pink one much. too noisy
>>87495350I'm glad you're feeling better, Nerissa
>>87495245BAU BAU!>>87495267HOLY BAUSED!>>87495308BAUSED AND CORRECT!
Woke up and saw the tweet. Now I am worried. lol. I guess is better than what she did in May.
>lol
>>87495350Meanwhile Fuwawa won't put out unless you slip her $2000 bucks. What a cold woman.
>>87495403
>>87495533Is something wrong with lol? I see people here saying kek.
>>87495565Maybe a zoomer thing, they don’t say lol apparently
holy fuck the head movement is fucking adorb in 3d
this is a nice unexpected extra... but what is this even supposed to befan without handle?weird shaped coaster?
>>87495907
>>87495907It’s a cock ringYou’re supposed to insert your dick in the middle
>playing some shitty eroge with some SHITTY machine translation patch>dog appears>it baushearthy kek
>mama's fwmc days 2 got new year costume reference in it>still no backside ref
>>87496097Fuwawa's floofies are huge in every illustration in that book
imagine how good it will be when they're in their 40s, all idol dreams accomplish, just playing VNs for fun with Ruffians who stuck by them
>>87495907Cute, they're giving away palettes
>>87495428Haeh?! SHUT DA FUCHK UP RAFFIAN
>>87496134boinboin
>>87496243Who?
>tan fuwamoco isn't included in the artbook
>>87495959I want to be raped by Fuwawa
>>87496364BAUSED
>>87496179They could be just like that grandma who played Skyrim.
I love them.
>>87496408their hands and fine motor skills are already that of an elderly hag. I don't think they'll be playing anything but VNs 10 years from now
wait, it was included in the artbookit's just seems like they kinda messed up the colour in my bag which make them looks tannice, thanks mama
retweet baudol
>the crotch softly censored because it's on the artbook binder
>>87496711it's that way so you can fuck the book/Mogogo and cover her in cum
Okay alright, maybe one more comment for you two on YouTube would hurt..! lolFUWAhmMOCOniya (you don't have to heart this one if you don't want to since I almost never comment on community, plus I've been late with all of them, and I still am feeling like I'm receiving too much of your time and kindness..! But thank you FUWAMOCO!FUWAheartMOCOheart)I'm always going to feel like I've said too much to you two, but at the same time I haven't said enough! I tend to feel this way because I try my best to respect people's time, but when it comes to you two loving our commenting and tweets I wont hold back then! Congrats again on such an amazing milestone of 1Million Ruffians FUWAMOCO!! My decision to stay by your side forever has always been the best decision I've ever made, sometimes I feel like even my luck gets turned around when I'm with you two..! (Esp reaching 1Mil during BAUDOL while I was having my break at work!)FUWAlightMOCOlight Sooner or later I would like to make a fun list of sorts of all the specific reasons why I love everything about you two, but I'll find the time one of these days.. it might end up being one of my biggest drafts on Twitter eventually, but I'll figure it out! lolAs much as you two want to do your best to continue to protect our smiles, I'm going to continue to do my best to protect yours too! I just love you two so much, and I love being on this journey with you two so much!I'm always so happy starting my day with FUWAMOCO, and ending my day with FUWAMOCO! Let's keep doing our best to reach for those dreams together!
>first love by utada hikaruHOLY FUCKING BASED
>>87496949Shameless but I can't talk because I've gotten 4 hearts off of just this one post. I finally show up as one of the top hearted commenters on their channel
>>87496976>It was released on April 28, 1999
We love Kronii-senpai!!
>>87496949Disgusting
>>87497071they really wasted both fgo artist making the most sex design on two prude girls huh
>>87496949Surprised he's actually admitting he just does it for likes and hearts but it's not a shock. I'm curious how many pages and words this loser has sent to them. He's probably personally wasted at least half a day or more in total of them reading it because they feel like they have to. Show some respect to their time for fuck's sake
>>87497071I don't but she could always be worse
The one good thing of being constantly shadowbanned on twitter is dodging the cock obsessed schizo.
AISHITEAISHITEAISHITEEEEEEEE
holy belting
>>87496949>>87496949they stopped right before his kek
how to unrestore your throat 101
FUWAMOCO thread?
Good fucking job preserving your throat right after recovering
RIP throat
Oh it's this monkey
>>87497246They’ll get to his eventually
Weird raid
>>87497321He’s posting from another worldline
>>87497324that's sorted by latest comments they stopped heart'ing two days ago.
FUCK THE ARCHIVE GONE TOMORROW
I really should get off my ass and try to archive spwn by myself>already on nyaanvm
>>87497356His comment will receive a heart and you will seethe
>240928 ReGLOSS 3D Live Reach the top! Encore All Cam nice
>>87497466Yoru sex
Good morning, girls! Time to start a new day! Shake off the sleepies and make sure you stretch those tired muscles! Have a nice breakfast to start with! How are we today? Feeling any better, honey? Is your voice doing okay, sweetness? Any dreams worth mentioning?
>it's already on yandexwelp, time to unseed
>>87497544
holy fuck I'm sure as hell gonna use that asymmetry paizuri for fuwamoco
>>87497544Kimoi
>>87497544Kimochi waruiKimochi warui
>>87470146>43 retweets of a non-artist/unofficial clipperis Fuwawa brain-damaged? no other member of hololive has retweeted a single fan that much.
>>87498068Nerissa
oh shit we're finally getting voice mimicryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpLoluuK_I4
>>87498144Oh RTed, idk then
Does Metaphor still do that thing where you come back home and there's half an hour of dialogue just repeating the same thing you just heard throughout the day? That made Persona 5 really challenging to go through at times, it tested my patience. Their other games weren't like this.
>>87498068>is Fuwawa brain-damagedMost likely as there's no other explanation for retweeting a fan that much. Never mind one that puts out such low effort bullshit. Someone should take her aside and tell her to cut it out
>>87498068Nerissa and Yomosaka-sensei who makes a new Nerissa art piece twice a week, dis her album cover and the MV for In My Feelings, or Fongban or Keisea (but less Keisea recently due to the increased amount of Bloodraven stuff)
Why are you only casting blame to Fuwawa?
>>87498144Nerissa doesn't retweet fans, only grifting antis who don't actually watch streams like the IRyS anti, a tranny, and now this new self described PNGtuber. Fucking gross.
>>87498760It's the baeschizo anti faggot that JPschizos and name-droppers welcome with open arms as one of the posters of the "comfy threads"
>>87498760She's the only one creaming for paypuppies and encouraging it. Mococo loves all Ruffians equally and would never play favorites like that because she knows how hurtful it is
>>87498835Yeah, like when she said she winked for mugetsu at Breaking Dimensions or when she dedicated a song on her birthday stream to otm, right? Watch streams, nigger. They talked about how they use twitter several times, even in the siliconera interview, you don't even have to watch streams since that's too much work for you.
I think it's just that he makes more art so he gets more retweets guys
I am thinking that some AI ruffian "artists" are getting a bit jealous.Just buy a drawing tablet bro. It's not too late.
>>87498729How the fuck can you compare those popular fan artists who have been officially commissioned by Cover for Hololive projects to a single non-artist fan who mainly spams low-effort 10-second clips that aren't even translated and screenshots.
>>87498897>winked for mugetsuI can't believe that guy actually believed that. She was on a screen and winked to the audience in general. That was the easiest set up to keep him sending money ever.
>>87498908>>87498955read again>43 retweets of a non-artist
Is today really 6 hours? Sounds risky for Mococo to immediately return to a 6 hours stream.
>>87498729>>87498908>artYou guys realize we're talking about a retard that posts 10 second unedited clips of their streams sometimes even just screenshots to actual professional artists employed by cover and big companies spending hours on every art piece?
>>87498973wow a schizo acting like a schizo, why are you surpised? As long as he keeps his delusions to himself and doesn't act on them then let that sad sack live his lonely life.
Do you people just not understand how twitter’s algorithm works or are you merely pretending?
>>87498973It was obviously just fanservice for him, yeah, and I have no problem with her saying it either, I just despise disingenuous sister vs sister bullshit.
>>87499055It's 6 hours starting at 4 pacific so at most it's going to be a couple hours longer by the time FUWAMOCO join. probably 2 hours
>>87499055I don’t think they’ll play the full amount, their starting time is 6:30pm PT. I assume 2 hours like last time
>>87499055It's not a jp stream, they're not going to stream for 6-7 hrs
>>87499091>do your pajeet codemonkey reps Yeah, no
>>87499104>>87499105Oh, ok, that's good to know, thanks.
>>87499063>>87499098winking at an audiance is something that almost every idol does and of course they will say it is for (You). It's fun to believe that so I can't blame the guy but come on now.I agree he isn't a threat or anything just dangerously obsessed. The only life he'll ruin is his own
Read >>87495267
>>87499091and you don't seem to understand that Sobbi retweets every clip he tweets out. and since FuwaMoco have notifications turned on for her, they see everything she retweets too.
That wink was for (me) and you can’t prove otherwise
>>87499160>just dangerously obsessed.I am more afraid of purityschizo than him.
>>87499234I meant dangerous to himself, bad choice of words by me. Purityschizo is an entirely different monster that will end up hurting them or others when it snaps
>>87499132The current stream schizos are blaming for everything bad with the world was 70 minutes long. This thread would be unusable if they dared to stream DKC for that long.
>>87498068What is wrong with them RTing clippers? I don't see you bitching about them RTing markchen.
>starting two and a half hours after everyone elseMan...
>>87499338They're there for emotional support bau's
>>87499138It’s difficult to understand you troglodyte trannyIf you like and/or retweet a tweet from a single person more than once, what that tells twitter’s algorithm is you must enjoy seeing their content and twitter will begin to push that person’s tweets to your For You tabIf you want to pull the favoritism bullshit, then Anan, whom all of you schizos claims is their #1, would have more than one or two retweets from them. He’s not one of the ones whose tweets pop up immediately for them the second they open up twitter like Tekzi or Phoenix’s are. For tweets like Anan’s and the others who have a small amount of retweets, the tweets themselves would either need to receive a good amount of traffic to appear on FWMC’s feed or FWMC would need to venture into the tag and like and/or retweet them themselves If they don’t engage with a particular ruffian’s tweets as often as they used to, then twitter’s algorithm will hold back on showing them any new tweets from that person in favor of the ones FWMC now focus on, which is what happened to the HungarianYou claim it’s a matter of favorites when it ultimately just boils down to this Kill yourself immediately
>>87499338Do you really expect them to wake up at 7am to play this event when they have a 3D collab coming? They probably will play for 2 hours and rush off to the studio for more practice.
>>87499336>markchenhe's Japanese and puts effort into his clips and also posts them on YouTube.pissnix and tekzi post 5 second garbage mid stream. Which do you think helps FUWAMOCO out more and which is just for personal attention?
>>87499336>RTing markchen.that is a clipper who FuwaMoco follows with an actual YT channel whose clips have proper editing and EN-to-JP translations for JP Ruffians.
>>87498966Yeah Nerissa doesnt retweet those but she does reply to their tweets. Example the tranny Irys anti doxxfag, Teo (png-tuber tranny who changed his name to Lady Teo because Nerissa responds more to fembirds doxxfag), Nick G. (A doxxfag). My hunch is that the girl know about figures like these but purposely engage with them because a lack of attention will make them go full schizo. Cover should do something about it
>>87499336Because he's a dedicated clipper that clips all of hololive and usually puts in the effort to translate it from English to JapaneseThat vs funny sound that takes literally 1 minute to screen record and post
>>87499416>it's not a matter of favorites>it's caused by them repeatedly interacting with the same people over and over???
>>87498803Liking Mococo more doesn't make me a Fuwawa anti and I couldn't give less of a fuck about twitter
>>87499463Didn't Maddie get 36 likes on one day? 4-5 direct replies too.
>>87499416See, the main problem is thatWhy the fuck are they choosing which tweet to retweet from their fucking feed instead of browsing the hashtagThat run antithesis to what they say about seeing everything because clearly, they only see their limited for you feed and nothing else
>>87499503>t. I can’t read
>>87499055It's 5 hours for other members who're starting at 7 pm edt.FUWAMOCO are starting at 9:30 pm edt because they didn't want to play this but they didn't want to miss the finale either.So they skipped almost the entire event, but are showing up at the last minute to make it harder for everyone else.
>>87499463>>87499520This is why her likes and replies are peanuts. She just throws them at everyone. At least FuwaMoco have the decency to heart non-member comments on Youtube, unlike Newissa.
>>87499551>That run antithesis to what they say about seeing everything because clearly, they only see their limited for you feed and nothing elseThat is blatantly untrue. They responded to random who with 1-2 likes before.
>>87499520neah got 61 from nerissaMaddie got 7 replies for every con she goes to and is worshipped by holofans
>>87499430A clip retweeted by themselves for people who already follow them isn't gonna help much no matter how good it is. It's just them sharing a moment they thought was funny or cute.
>>87499416I’m convinced the one who cries about Phoenix and that other one /here/ IS the Hungarian
>>87499428Is the 3D collab even live? Isn't it going to be pre-recorded?
>>87499463Following Nerissa made my For You completely unusable, kek. It's kind of funny. Wish I could disable her likes from impacting my algorithm without muting or unfollowing.
>>87499634likely a mix. it's during the day in jp so I assume some of it is live or it would have been at a better time for EN
>>87499503Post clips on twitter and they'll retweet you too. Jesus Christ...
>>87499634We shall see on Saturday. But even if it is pre-recorded, they still need to practice. Their 3D debut was pre-recorded doesn't mean they didn't put in their best to make sure everything goes well.
>>87499594Then the whole spiel about them browsing via their for you feed means nothingOr maybe thats just the few times they do browse the hashtag, because clearly they're browsing their for you page disproportionally more frequent than actually browsing their hashtag and finding those random who tweets
>>87499551They literally proved that they egosearch with the Lui tweet. Seeing isn't the same as liking, Nerissa, you don't have to spam like everything you read.
>>87499714I do constantly and not one has gotten even a like
>>87499681It's going to be entirely in Japanese. Why would it be during EN hours?
>>87499714I did that for a full 90 days daily and apparently I don't even deserves a like
>>87499750but what's the harm in spam liking? it makes people feel better instead of the ultra selective bullshit they do now
It's not SEA hoursIs it a SEA holiday?
>>87499714Not true lol, even a 1+ min edited and subtitled clip can get skipped. I just took the L and assumed it wasn’t good enough
>>87499751>>87499776Andy Lim chama....
>>87499783No harm other than shitting up my feed, but no harm in not doing it either. They don't want to, the vast majority of Holos don't either, and you're gonna have to deal with that. If twitter likes are your oshi, you should switch to Nerissa.You will never control them, groomer.
>>87499737Or you know, they are doing the smart things and browse their For You during breaks, and egosurf when they have more free time.
>>87499750Then why did they never retweet old quality clips, hmmm?
Curious how favoritism and twitter like schizophrenia always happens at around this time, it must mean that the amerimutts are awake and comfy hours are over See you all tonight when these subhumans start heading to bed, ruffians!
>>87499802I've said this already in the previous thread. It's because all the NA shitposters and Yuros woke up.
>>87499416Skippa skippa
>>87499843They don't need to fucking Retweet spam during those breaks
>>87499843Except those clip retweet spam happen right after stream
Thanks for confirming you fags are in fact seas kek
>>87499520Yeah but Nerissa also indirectly told her that since she isnt Maddie's oshi, knowing Maddie oshihenned Fauna, that she did not care that much, as Maddie's oshi label is just as worthless as a Nerissa like, which led to a Maddie melty
who the hell wakes up at noon? stop blaming it on americans
>>87499877We know you can’t read anything more than a sentenceanyways, zoomer. Back to tiktok with you
>>87499897>right after streamAnd? Are you new? They usually don't have time to egosurf after a stream since they are rushing off to do their homework.
>>87499802It is always SEA hours. They work 12 hour shifts in call centers.
>>87499816I spent several hours editing and compiling moments from GTA and not a single one was even liked by them. And then they turn around and retweet an unedited screenshot from their 3D home stream and a 2 second unedited "clip"I gave up after that
>>87499816I tried to do it too. I'm sorry for being poor and putting in effort in my clips, Fuwawa.
>>87499865See you later so we can avatarfag, namedrop and only actually discuss FUWAMOCO after I call you out on your discord circlejerk!
>>87499718If it's pre-recorded, then that means it has to be edited and Cover's audio/visual team has to go through it to pick camera angles and add effects and all the other stuff they usually do for 3D lives. And that would mean they recorded it weeks/months ago.
>>87499865See you later!
>>87499865They are so obsessed they went to discord to track the number of likes. I swear some of these are just jealous motherfuckers who just want their twitter likes.
Nuke SEA and south america.
>>87499914Real mask off moment btw https://x.com/PROMlNENCES/status/1843333077969580040
>>87499972>And that would mean they recorded it weeks/months ago.They had a dance practice with someone yesterday, probably with Patra since she replied to the tweet.
>>87499913>>87499916>>87499963>>87500009Uh oh, the amerilards feel called out and are seething!
>>87499979Twitter screencap threads should still be ban worthy...
>>87499938Then what's the point of even posting anything because their For You will FOREVER tainted with their favoritesMoment after stream is the hottest moment where people post shit and yet they will see absolutely none of that forever because they don't egosurf and their For You page is forever brokenAnd when they DO egosurf, they never go deep enough
>>87500137Clips are supposed to benefit the community. If you're a likeschizo just spam their tag with generic messages, a lot more return on investment.
They answered the “how do we support you” questions decently, I’m now more curious if they’d like more EN clips, JP -> EN, or EN-> JP clips. I know they’d answer all of it but still…
>>87499934Please work harder on learning english.
Every day I'm thankful FuwaMoco left the Northwest Passage to get away from you ET schizos. Good night and don't reply to me.
>>87500212EXACTFUCKINGLYHow am I supposed to actually see the few high quality shit when it's all buried under the algorithm by all the fucking 10s clips they retweet daily
Honestly, it seems like they even slacking off on FWMCpix hashtags nowadaysFukuinu get almost instant retweet, but one of the better pic from some randos holoctober need to wait a couple days before getting rtI'm not even sure they even seen a couple of them that seems rt-worthy
>>87500272They have PeroTL already, I feel like EN to JP would be more useful for twitter. For youtube English subbed JP moments are better since PeroTL won't be on screen for those and they reach clipfags who never watch streams.
>>87500342High quality clips are all on YouTube, you should try there. Twitter will always prioritize short expendable content. Long form isn't even possible unless you give Elon money.
>>87500342>fucking 10s clips they retweet dailyClips, especially the shorter ones, is actually the best way to engage with casuals on twitter. High effort long clips should just be posted on youtube.
>>87500037Anon. If they're going to have dancing segments for this 3D stream, then the chances of them singing and dancing live are near zero. I don't think they're ready for that yet.If it's pre-recorded, then that means they mocapped it weeks/months ago because the editing team doesn't put together a 3D live in a day. It takes weeks because a bunch of editing work goes into every pre-recorded performance.
>>87500722>then the chances of them singing and dancing live are near zero. I don't think they're ready for that yet.They didn't market it as a 3Dlive. They market it as a 3D collab.
>>87500722>then the chances of them singing and dancing live are near zero.Already happened on 3D debut in the only way that matters, which is performing both at once. It was prerecorded, but as far as being ready for it goes, it's the exact same skill.
Rape
>>87500865Not now, Fuwawa, let her sleep.
>>87500887>F: Everyday is a struggle when living with Moco-chan. ehehehehe.
>>87500722>>87500769>>87500790Honestly, I hope they just go for live live this weekend. The stakes are pretty low since no one is expecting a top tier performance anyway.
>>87500639>>87500666Youtube feeds is a whole other beastBut they should at least, dunno, give some crumb so I can actually find the channel on youtube, damnitThere should be no harm rt-ing the clip they fucking commented on youtube so people can actually find it once in a while
>>87500865Mmm tasty Mocojam
>>87501036Why do you care so much??? The people who create content on YT are just happy they get a direct reply from FUWAMOCO themselves.
>>87500909I really liked that moment, it was really cute.
>>87500967I hope they eventually make the transition to live live too. I know how much it matters to them, so every new event without it I'll naturally assume it was against their will.
>>87499585Why the hell would they even show up at that point? Seriously, they won't have any gear while everyone else will be setting up and ready to go because they showed up for the earlier portion, where the main 5 will powerlevel them and kit them out.
>>87501478So they can pretend they were part of the collab
>>87501478>I think you guys should sit this one out. Just focus on healing and the 3D collab, the days you ended up missing will count as this final stretch is a bit harder, I think it'll be best for everyone including your ruffians if you make sure the 3D stream is the best it can be.All it takes is one message by a senpai saying this if they're really getting in the way. Especially Mori since she's organizing. Blame Omega for ruining senpai kouhai culture in EN. Nobody wants the responsibility.
>>87499055Better set up another counterhex so I can break it again and take the other twin away too
>>87501796What makes you think they'd listen to any advice from anyone? They ignored JO senpai telling them that to their face the last time we went through a voice hurt arc and they haven't seemed to learn anything
>>87501973Holos get JO senpai?
>>87501973It's completely different, one is telling them how to live their lives, being a senpai doesn't give you that right, I wish they listened but they're free to ignore. It's just advice. The other is "don't come to my stream" said in a nice way, and being a senpai does give you that right. They would in fact listen. They could be stubborn and just stream something else, but if the problem is them being there, that part would be solved.
Good afternoon Laffians. Did I miss anything from this morning?
>>87502246Good morning and nope
>>87502246show me your butt
>>87502165Fuwamoco want to learn how to please the Ruffians even better
Did FWMC visit Mori with Raora?
No hololive members should be liking or retweeting any fan more than others. Artists are an exception but even that should be in moderation when you're in hololive. That's pathetic 2view indie behavior trying to groom viewers
>>87500666sure pissnix, keep spamming trash during streams. everyone hates you
>>87502303I see the 7DTD frame is up for tonight. I hope Mococo's throat is up for it.
>>87500769>They didn't market it as a 3Dlive. They market it as a 3D collab.True, but Fubuki's 3D collab with Patra was marketed the same way and ended up having singing and dancing segments.https://youtube.com/watch?v=JBZ78MctUggActually, this entire colllab looks pre-recorded to me because of all the on-screen text and overlays. And they never interacted with chat or anything.When effects like that are added, that usually means it's pre-recorded. The dancing sections definitely were.
>>87501264Because I want to see it, damnitI want to see FWMC approved clips
>>87500790Their 3D debut singing and dancing segments were pre-recorded, anon. What do you mean?
Good work today #FUWAMOCO It makes me smile knowing things went so well, and I hope this new day brings many more things to enjoy. I understand that desire to work long into the night… I love you, and can't wait to see you both again soon Sweet dreams bau bau~
>>87497067Still pandering to boomers and millenials, I see.
Fuwawa's milk.
>>87502687
>>87502571It's pretty trivial to do that live. No interaction and not saying it's live is the bigger tell. Aqua made sure to say "from now on it's fully live" during her graduation.
>>87501796It's not even about it being harder, just that at least with the Saturday one, they showed up at a time that left them some time to play with other members, level a little, and get some gear before the raid. Today will be them logging in and the raid starting immediatly after. There's just no point other than to say 'Haha we did it, we beat the game!'.
>>87502768exclusive to only her most favorite paypuppies sorry
>>87502809They want to farm some congrats you did it superchats for the reading on sunday. Every action they do for EN fans can be traced to money in their pockets
>>87502637Not separately. The difficult part is singing and dancing at the same time, it happening in real time but with lip syncing isn't any more difficult. When people ask for live live they want real performances more than anything, not chat being read.
Fuwawa sexMococo rape
>>87502809It's the same logic as doing an English stream at 3am to play the frog game, they figure anything is better than nothing. If you disagree then say that to them, God knows they could benefit from hearing a few opinions other than "more endurance streams" when they're struggling to stream for 2 hours.
any groomable femruffians left?
>>87501796That faggot can be blamed for a lot of things but not this. The fact of the matter is, FUWAMOCO will never be gamers. Yes they like retrogames but a lot of these games are fucking terrible for them because they involve a deep knowledge of mechanics and there's a lot more to do than just jump over stuff. Minecraft, GTA, 7dtd, ARK, they all have a ton of resource gathering, crafting, combat, and it just requires more braincells than they have. Minecraft you could argue was the one they had the most time with, but even with those weekly Minecraft streams they still struggled with basic shit, like sharing a pickaxe instead of crafting a new one, or a compass, or eating food when you were hungry. They just don't have the bandwidth for a lot of these games.
>>87502943 (me)Except for the guest part, of course, that was very obviously studio audio. But they even talked about how the hardest part of performing BAUDOL is that the rhythm of the song doesn't match the twirl they do at the "YUME" part and they kept singing out of rhythm during practice, as YU - pause - ME. That makes no sense to even be an issue if they were lip syncing, and the audio quality supports that, the audio is always lower quality due to not going through studio post processing for real performances.
>>87503172they're never going back to the solo minecraft world are they?
>>87503243It wouldn't matter because it would be like they're touching it for the first time again.
my tears won't stop and I don't even know why...
>>87503243Nah, unless they need a refresher for a JP event
>>87503073They seem to understand that the fun of collabs like this is interaction, yet here they are making it so they will have no interaction at all. They also made sure to do some prep for the GTA streams, while these were almost an afterthought at this point. The first day and their second day were fine, if a bit short because they cut almost all of their NA streams short.
>>87503310stop being a fucking menhera Newissa.
>>87503150Agri...
I can't stop crying.
To add to this I really want them to play Armored Core 6 but I don't know if it's a good idea. I think they would really enjoy the story and the combat and the characters. But the building part of the game would definitely overload them and that's pretty important. All the numbers and all the effects they have on how your AC handles would be totally lost to them.
Bratty attention seeking little sisters are built for rape
>>87503359Kek notice how he rarely superchats now after getting with a femruffian? What a whore.
>>87503481They're too retarded for that kind of game. They would drop it after one stream anyways
>>87502943I never said their performances were recorded separately. Their performances were mocaped and then edited into videos to play for their 3D debut. They sang together at the audio recording studio and then recorded their mocap performances at the 3D recording studio.That data was synched and put into their NWP stage 3D environment. The 3D direction team chose camera angles and rendered the entire thing as a video. The video was played during their 3D debut in-between the live segments. They cut or fade to black to hide the transitions.That's what a pre-recorded performance means.
>>87503582I mean IRyS and Ririka both got through all 3 playthroughs and they aren't very smart either. Chat can just tell them broken builds.
>>87503498But what if I wanna love the bratty sister tenderly?
>>87503481Doesn't Mococo play Disgaea? That's a pretty complicated game
>>87503655They're completely different from FWMC though? IRyS played a lot of Elden Ring and did well. Again, they would drop it after one 2hr long stream
>>87502768Is Fuwawa's milk blue?
>>87503481Why 6? They do so well with retro gaming, they should at least start with 2.
>>87503836>Turn based JRPG>ComplicatedNigga please
>>87503310
>>87503583I mean singing and dancing separately, they didn't do that. Except for the guest part.>>87503180
>>875038856 is great, it's easiest to do since it's just an install through Steam, it's the most recent, and would draw the most attention.
>>87503808Not possible, Mococo's entire calls for rapeEven Fuwawa can't help herself but to bully and sexually harass Mocotyan after awhile
>>87503945if you're talking number autism it is
>>87504086She is too rapeable...
>>87503172That's not true. They simply don't have enough experience. And your minecraft example was a poor one because like everything else, they aren't going to get better at something like minecraft if all they do is play it for 2 hours once a month like they did.The minecraft streams were some of my favorite streams this year, but they were honestly terrible if they actually wanted to learn anything. They spent half of each stream just trying to remember the controls and relearning very basic concepts.Spending 2 hours once a month is not how you learn or get better at something, and it's frankly insulting that they said that was the purpose of those streams when they didn't actually want to commit to it.
>>87504086Well that's a given in Fuwawa's case. For me Mococo and her brattiness isn't patience testing enough for me to rape her(yet).
>>87504067I agree it's great, but they're among the very few Holos willing to steam PS1/2 games on real hardware, it's a waste of a golden opportunity.It's a rich series, would be a waste to only play the one everybody played. Of course though if it's 6 or nothing then hell yeah give me 6. Koyori at least started from 4, it's something already.Imagine if they started Donkey Kong from Tropical Freeze, wouldn't that be a waste?
>>87503513did he really end up with a femruffian?
>>87504350>waste waste wasteI really suck at writing
>>87504239At least they admitted after the fact they only did those streams to prep for ENreco and didn't actually care about learning more. It was a little sad they weren't doing it for fun but whatever they were some of my fave streams too
Hello ruffians!Thanks to your encouragement I started with my Nihongo learning journey!Day 434: Today I've done my anki and immersion reps. No new cards for Anki, I'm just maintaining core 2.3k deck. For immersion I've watched two episodes of an anime.FUWAMOCO love!BAU BAU!
>>87504519>The last time ruffians said how I should start adding more cards to the deck and watch JP chuubas, like Marine and Raden, for immersionI will start adding new ones eventually... I used to watch JP chuubas stream for immersion before, but nowadays I'm back to anime. I'll probably eventually get bored of anime and then I'll get back to watching JP streams.
CUMMING
FWMC should ramp up the fanservice. And by that I especifically mean giving themselves more downtime between recordings and streaming.
>>87504239> it's frankly insulting that they said that was the purpose of those streams when they didn't actually want to commit to it.Their main commitment will always be prep for 3D events. Everything else is secondary to them.
gambled and lost on that fart gross
>>87504427Yeah he groomed one on Twitter.
>>87504699Fluffy sex demon
Been playing the SH2 remake, it's okay but it's no REmake2. I'd like them to play the original sh2, or even better sh1 for a real good retro halloween.
>>87504883Is she 1 year over the age of concent this time?
>>87504816also music recording
>>87504765But that wouldn't be fanservice, that would be R and R. Which I fully agree with but they need to kill off some that homework they keep taking on.
>>87504971I was on board with that, but I am just tired of them screaming at everything. They should play the legend of zelda majoras mask and get spooked by the big moon.
Don't rape Mococo
>>87505103>they need to kill off some that homework they keep taking onI agree, they should also do at least 1 VN/retro game stream and a fanservice stream per week.
>>87505211Moco-chan sure has a big butt ehehehe, right Wuffians?
>>87505211Made for bullying and rape
They should play Dragon Age:Origins
>>87505263>they should also do at least 1 VN/retro game stream and a fanservice stream per week.Ah that would be the life.
>>87504485They said at the beginning that the purpose of those streams was to learn minecraft for future collabs.The problem is that they didn't do nearly enough of them. They were supposed to be every Saturday, but they ended up either skipping them or replacing them with something else almost every single week until the point they were only doing it once a month for 2 hours.It's really, seriously tone-deaf for them to say they'll commit to something regularly, but then it ends up being really rare. And then once they finally do get around to doing it after fans were waiting patiently for a long time, they only bother to do it for an hour. One of those streams was literally only 90 minutes of them playing the game followed by TWO AND A HALF HOURS of superchat reading. I hope they go back, but I sincerely doubt they will, because nothing seems to be worth their time anymore besides homework.Sometimes I wonder if that's really what they're even doing. Most of the time nowadays, whenever they spend time with us, it just feels like they're counting down the minutes until they can stop.
>>87505334Just a little bit
>>87505211Even Mococo knows she's rapebait
Why did Fuwawa try to convince the Ruffians that Mococo is giving consent even when she explicitly says that she "doesn't like it"?
>HEY! STOP THAT!>THE EARS AND TAILS ARE OFF LIMITS>NO GET OFF OF ME!>I'LL LET YOU HUG ME AND PAT MY HEAD IF YOU LEAVE ME ALONE!>JUST DON'T TOUCH TH->NO... NOOOOOOOOEEEEHHHHH
>>87505450These tempresses...
It's interesting when you listen to older streams how they've been getting more and more high pitched. They probably don't even realize it
>>87505591JESAS...
>>87505479Long haired Mococo does wicked things to my libido. >>87505644Yes. Yes let the temptation flow through you.
>>87505700I noticed that too. Isn't it usually the opposite? (hologirl debuting with a high-pitched voice and slowly dropping it for a more "natural" voice)
If Mococo is rape bait then what is Fuwawa?
>>87505425That is because they are putting 10/10 into 3D prep. Streams are just secondary. I am fine with it because they ultimately delivered the goods. Maybe you should consider finding chuubas who care more about streaming instead? That will save you some angst.
>>87505700It's because they're seeing me in chat
>>87505797Reminder that they literally forced Cover to add shimapan to their 3D models instead of generic black spats
>>87505912Fuwawa is a rapist
>>87505912>then what is Fuwawa?Very fluffy and definitely not a chihuahua
Mococo will shoot the zombies today
>>87506113They really did go for gold with that
>>87505912>"Wuffian... ehehe~"
>>87506113They just need to ask.
>>87506301Oh no Fuwawa please don't ahaha
lol
Fuwawa needs to respect her fans and show her butthole on stream.
>>87501796You never listen to Mori speak about them before? She said she understands and respects the grind, and will never ask them to stop.
>>87506297And they did Marshmallow Mania too... They really do know what we want...
>>87506464German: CCAlcoholic: Calli, GuraDry: Adventthe rest idk but putting any of Advent above Social Drinker is insane
>>87506412Her floofies look perfect in that pic...
>>87506690Of course they know what we want, the problem is how far can they go without getting bonked?
>>87505943Breaking promises is the exact opposite of "delivering the goods". They have said time and time again that the most important part of their time in hololive is spending time with fans.3D streams are great, but not at the expense of all the time they spend with us, and no, 3D streams are not that because none of them are live or involve them interacting with us, except for stuff like using home3D or mocopi during a normal stream.You don't sound like a ruffian.
>>87507273>You don't sound like a ruffian.I think you are the one who isn't a ruffian. I am perfectly fine with them giving their all to deliver the best performance. You are the one whining about minecraft of all things.
1k more to 900k.
>>87507273>Breaking promises is the exact opposite of "delivering the goods"Between wrestling kino and a biweekly MC stream, I will pick the former 10 out of 10.
>>87506834During the summer bingo they mentioned that they wanted to post something for us on twitter to complete the "fanservice" part of the bingo, but said that they needed to convince mane-chan first. I guess it was too extreme to be accepted in the end, but it does show that they are willing to push boundaries to give us fanservice, but mane-chan cock-blocks us if it's "too extreme"... I have no idea where the red line is though, but they were able to show Mococo's ass on a membership stream without any issues.
the wrestling was faked
How much do I have to superchat to get a retweet tonight?
>>87506683I'm not talking about the grind, I'm talking about the idea that other people don't want them there.
>>87507497ah, yeah? this post was faked!
>>87507491I still find it funny that it falls on these two to push the boundaries.
>>87507273Sorry I don't think them reading my inane chat messages is more important than fulfilling their dreams and doing the best kind of content that only Hololive can provide in vtubing.
>>87507609Why the hell will people not want them there? Holos are pretty much used to people dropping in and out of big collabs by now. You never see much complaints on the JP side over such stuff.
>>87507408Damn. Honey Citron took several hours to get the final 1k while Baudol did 10x as much. Well deserved.
Wuffians
>>87507273You are not making sense. What is the point of watching two bad gamers become mediocre gamers when you can instead watch them go from promising idols to great idols?
>>87507784Temptress...
>>87507851I'm the pebble under her shirt by her cute chest
>>87507743I don't know, I think it's ridiculous too, but also that if their senpai feel that way, then it's on them to express it, not on FUWAMOCO to drop out become some retard in a basket weaving forum feels like they're not wanted there.
>>87507743A few people have been pushing this for a few days. Which is funny, since the girls who are the most into it were all giddy yesterday talking about all the things they could prepare for the members that didn't play as much.
>>87507795>Honey Citron took several hours to get the final 1kI wonder if Mococo was referring to Honey Citron when she said during puptalk a few weeks back that sometimes you try and things don't work out.
>>87507851instant losshttps://exhentai.org/g/3091634/515f8e1be5/
>>87507795>Honey CitronWhy is this cover so forgettable?
Oh, the Steins;Gate collab is now live in my mahjong client.
>>87507784I feel my virginity is in danger..
>>87508079It isn't
>>87508079It is an okay song, but not worth adding to a playlist. Doesn't help that the anime is pretty forgettable too. Sad to say that Sora's first anime song is a flop too. It did worse than Honey Citron in views. I think only Mori's are popular enough to get a couple of million views each.
>>87508258Tender love making with Mayushii and Kurisu
>>87507607minimum an aka
Is it true that Fuwawa is the one primarily in charge of Twitter while Mococo handles Reddit and /here/?
>>87508479They are all handled by pero.
>>87508509KEK
Scrolling through the community post, seems like alot of people have noticed Mococo is the one with health issues.
>>87508509That was me
Will you drink Fuwawa's soup?
>>87508711
>>87508509>>87508711Fuwawa always being the one to comment on it
>>87507349>>87507480>>87507711This is really disingenuous because you're acting as if they have to choose one or the other. No, learning a few wrestling moves should not be taking up months of their time 8 hours per day to the point they can only ever find 2 hours per week to do something they said they really wanted to do.Other holos do way more than them off-stream and are still able to stream more than 2 hours at a time. There is no reason they can't do both unless they completely prioritize doing homework and projects over their fans, but they said that's not what they're doing nor is it what they want.>Sorry I don't think them reading my inane chat messages is more important than fulfilling their dreamsLook, you dumb faggot. Where did I even say that that's what I wanted? I said I wanted the opposite:>One of those streams was literally only 90 minutes of them playing the game followed by TWO AND A HALF HOURS of superchat reading.Learn to read, you dumb fucking retard.>>87507883They can do both. And you aren't a ruffian. Period. A ruffian would never fucking say that the point of gaming streams was to watch the game. The point is to have fun spending time with them.Which is the entire point of hololive: they are idols that stream and regularly interact with their fans. IRL idols don't do that. The most they do is shit like handshake events. That's what makes hololive special.
>>87508741YES
>>87508666Fuwawa thought she could get away with the abuse forever good to see people waking up
>>87508812>unless they completely prioritize doing homework and projects over their fansWhich they do
>>87508810
>>87508812>No, learning a few wrestling movesNice anti here.
>>87508741Fuwawa soup is for kids, give me Fuwawa gruel.
Pero should have been a cute girl
Will you eat Mococo's microwaved noodles?
>>87508766She's so bratty
>>87508848They don't. They stream more than most other members. But the quality of their streams has nosedived with them pretty openly watching the minute hand tick down until when they can stop and switch to superchat reading.The 2 hour limit is the biggest issue, and it doesn't even make much sense. A few streams would be understandable, but they're doing it almost every stream now. Everything feels forced and rushed. They make no time to actually care about what they're doing. There's no way they're that busy every day.
>>87507851I wanna hug this rock so badly
>>87509181>The 2 hour limit is the biggest issue, and it doesn't even make much senseIt's cause they'd rather milk their paypuppies
>>87508812>Which is the entire point of hololive: they are idols that stream and regularly interact with their fansBae was told by her manager to either focus on her music career or on streaming. She tried juggling both and it didn't work out for her too. In the end, everyone has their limits and have to figure out what they want to prioritize and what skills they want to develop. Not everyone is built like a Mori or Koyori. If you are unhappy that FUWAMOCO are choosing to sharpen their non-streaming skillsets, look for another chuuba instead of constantly whining and bitching here.
>BaeStopped reading there
>>87509181>The 2 hour limit is the biggest issue, and it doesn't even make much senseBecause you don't make sense? FSN was 7 hours. HoloGTA clip watchalongs was 5 hours. Bathhouse was 6 hours. When they have time, they do long streams. When they are short on time, they stream less.
>>87509181They have plenty of time. Look at all the time they made for ENReco and HoloGTA!
>>87509181They already said countless time that homework is important to have more fun stuff. If you don't agree with their vision and direction, just move on. They are not going to change for you.
>>87509249
I don't know why some of you are always so negative all the time, I don't even think most of you do it on purpose. Having your oshi's original song reaching milestones faster than covers that came before (this will likely hit 1 million before White Love at this pace), and growing faster than a cover that came after it is not to be taken for granted, it's great, really.But rather than celebrating this fact, people instead focus on "why is Honey Citron doing so bad?" Jesus, man.
>>87509768I didn't mean to quote
>>87509816My Moco-pirate...
>>87508812>they are idols that stream and regularly interact with their fans. IRL idols don't do that. The most they do is shit like handshake events. That's what makes hololive special.Holy fucking tourist
>>87509181I really like the shorter stream times and have since debut, what inflated their stream times was superchat reading. Go to their channel and sort by oldest and you'll see that stream times haven't changed that much at all.Many, myself included, used to praise them for being "EST ojisan friendly" near debut.I also don't think the quality has nosedived, but this is subjective, so I don't feel like challenging you on it.
>>87509899He probably assumes IRL idols only do live shows like once or twice a year.
>>87509282Baused Pero
It's been 9 fucking months since Advent was given new outfits
>>87510230Have to wait for regloss to get theirs first!
>>87509899He phrased it badly but IRL idols don't do near the amount of interaction that idols that stream regularly do.
wape moco-chan!!
>>87510082>I also don't think the quality has nosedivedNTA, but I'd say that the quality has definitely become a lot worse. They barely play decent games recently, it's all horror slop.
>>87510304
>>87510286He didn't "phrase it badly", he's categorically incorrect. He would be incorrect even talking about FWMC themselves.Yes, the amount is not as much as they do now, but they also don't perform nearly as much as they did then. Get some, lose some. If anything someone who cares more about streams should be appreciative of this, instead of whining that he needs more.
I think Mococo should graduate and enjoy the time she has left. Who is with me?
I can't believe people are still whining when we have a 3D collab coming. This is pretty huge and Cover don't hand out such opportunities readily. Of course they are going to put all their effort into making sure the event goes smoothly.
>>87510562JP only and in JST
>>87510596And? It is still a big opportunity. Not everyone gets a chance to do it.
>>87510562>PeopleIt's the same guy every day who is mad they're doing dance lessons and preparing for 3d things instead of reading his chat messages. You can ignore him.
>>87510648to 90% of their fans it may as well not exist because it's inaccessible
>https://www.sfgate.com/sf-culture/article/california-music-festival-bubble-bursting-19786530.phpImportant article to read if you're interested. All the things that are talked about here are quadrupled when it comes to a sololive for anime girl vtubers. I was especially interested in the part about funding via ticket sales and sponsorships. Some of these festivals have big name acts but most fans are reluctant to pay that much for an experience. FUWAMOCO (and all Holos) need that die hard audience who are willing to pay thousands to see them, and you get that by holding onto and growing your core fans, which is at odds by constantly seeking more casual ones who will be greater in number but smaller in devotion.
>>87510342Yes, the game selection overall decreased, I'm willing to agree with this. But not by as much as people state, in my opinion. This is a list of their previous solo game streams, with no selection bias:Paratopic, Fate, Kanji de Go, Euro Truck, Urayama, SAO, DKC2, Elite MikoSorting by oldest, 8 first game streams:Phogs, Spooky's, Typing of the Dead, Nobeta, DKC1, Spooky's, Typing of the Dead, PhogsThem being willing to repeat games more often stands out more than the game selection itself. Same amount of horror games (but twice as many streams) too.But, again, yes, willing to give you that point. They do a lot more than play games, though, and I care about that a lot.
>>87510304But that's your sister!
>>8751070690% of their fans can't watch a stream/VOD on their channel? Are you retarded
>>87510754>you get that by holding onto and growing your core fans, which is at odds by constantly seeking more casual ones who will be greater in number but smaller in devotion.The solution is simple. Tap into the hololistener box. There is a sizable portion of DDs who will go to any holo's sololive.
kyoho gwapes!
>>87510898Problem is there are a lot of fans and people who will go to and Holo's Sololive may not have infinite money. If they're willing to go to anyone's that also means they aren't JUST willing to go to FUWAMOCO's or even pay extra for it since they don't have the increased love and motivation a die hard fan will.
>>87510648I'm just saying; all of those "big opportunities" are not made for their main audience, they are all for the JPs. Their main audience of EN Ruffians might as well just be considered walking ATMs, because we give them money and support and they use it to do JP exclusive things that we won't be able to enjoy. It's completely reasonable to not be excited for it, specially when you lose your only connection to them (streams) for those JP exclusive things.
>>87510754>most fans are reluctant to pay that much for an experience.NA is cheapskate. Holofags and idolfags in Japan are a different level.
>>87511036That level may not extend to FWMC though. The ones that are hardcore are already invested in Suisei or others.
>>87511010>because we give them money and support and they use it to do JP exclusive things that we won't be able to enjoy.I accepted this on day 1 when they talked about wanting to perform at animelo summer, tokyo idol festival and collaborate with Japanese comedians. But it seems like you haven't gotten the memo? Are you going to cry foul when they finally score a collab with kuro-chan?
>>87510840not many EN fans are going to bother to watch a stream exclusively in Japanese especially not as a VOD. You're crazy if you think otherwise
>>87510983I mean agri flew out to Sydney for the M&G and you guys were shitting on him. So don't act like you guys want FWMC to have more diehard fans now.
>>87510767>Paratopic, Urayamahorror slop>SAO1 hour long sponsored stream>DKC2at this point they are playing it like once every 2 months, and the last time they played it was a month ago >Elite MikoMococo hated the game, but it wasn't a terrible stream>Kanji de Go, Euro TruckJP solo streams>FateThe only recent gaming stream that was actually good.
>>87511272>Every post is made by the same personYou're a fucking retard.
>>87511344>Every post is made by the same personSeeing that it is the same complaints posted every single day, yes I wouldn't be surprised. Just fucking leave already.
>>87511425In that case it's only one person complaining about agri, and clearly not "you guys". What are you trying to say here?
>>87511079Funny thing is Suisei didn't even stream much to begin with to gain all those hardcore fans. They really should ask her for advice.
>>87511486Yeah well her singing is good enough to cover the gap. FWMC's isn't. People would go to hear her sing just because she's a good singer. FWMC aren't that level yet.
>>87511010I can tell you Mori's and Ina's big opportunities are not made for their main audience too. But you don't see their fanbases whine as much.
>>87511486Suisei is such a good singer or at least has that reputation that she has fans that go exclusively for that even if they don't know who she is. There's people at anyc that flew and bought tickets just because she came up on their YouTube autoplay once
>>87500865
>>87511486You are fucking retarded... Vtubers were a novelty when Suisei started streaming, but now the Vtubing community is oversaturated, hell, even hololive is oversaturated. FWMC are NOT in the same position as she was at the start, you can't even begin to make comparisons between them.
ok...which one of you is this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcEzDrClL-o
>>87511773Andy Tran BAU BAU
>>87511631Deadbeats have to be used to it by now, we’re just getting started. I watched Calli announce that she’d be opening for a big event but it wouldn’t be streamed and to be happy for her. I’d be happy for FWMC if that happened for them but bummed out I couldn’t engage with it at all without flying to Japan
>>87511750I think like HoloEN is at least not yet oversaturated especially right now where it seems like a third of the remaining ones are kinda checked out
>>87511773He’s just a vlogger who goes to Hololive events
>>87511823Oh, I had no idea this is him.
>>87511773That is the korean dude who frequently travels to holo events around the world.
>>87511905It's not I was just shitposting
>>87511862in terms of idols? it probably is. barely anyone cares about it instead of streaming games and even FUWAMOCO who promised to bridge JP idol culture to EN already have started doing more JP content exclusively. They must have seen metrics saying it was hopeless to try more or they didn't think it was worth the effort
Why do some keep trying to compare FWMC to Suisei when their singing ability aren't even close? Expecting FWMC to get to where Suisei is must me delusional.
>>87511958The ones who wana do idol stuff all ended up moving to Japan. That is a pretty strong indication of what the internal metrics are showing.
>>87511958I honestly miss their PLs. It feels like they showed more of their real selves as them.
INB4 THE MILESTONE, JESAS CAN I WRITE THE TWEET IN TIME? WILL I NOT BE SHADOWBANNED? FIND OUT ON THE NEXT EPISODE
>>87511858The difference is that a large majority of Mori's content is in English and she never 'chased' after JP fans to boost herself. We are now seeing week after week having more and more JP streams in them, while also seeing week after week of more EN stuff getting cut short.
>>87512065You might be surprised, but suisei wasn't a great singer when she first started out. She did her singing reps for 2-3 years to get to where she was. Having said that, the vsinging sphere is pretty saturated compared to 5 years ago, and FWMC wouldn't be able to find success copying that model. They would need to find another angle.
>>87511898>>87511931>>87511934ok, thanks for the info, guys
>>87512175>she never 'chased' after JP fans to boost herself.Why do you think she joined VCR rust??? For fun and games?
>>87512175She did cater to JP fans but was open about it with everyone and always has labeled the streams and events that will be for JP Deadbeats. She isn't doing the weird thing FWMC are trying where they try to cater to both languages simultaneously and make everyone feel alienated
>>87511958>They must have seen metrics saying it was hopeless to try more or they didn't think it was worth the effortI'd be honestly really dissapointed in them if that's the case. I was really excited about them bringing JP idol culture to the EN sphere
>>87511187Same, all of those still sound incredible to me, hearing them even bring up these points showed how serious they were about the idol side and it was the main reason why I got invested day one.
>>87512175And if they want a sololive they need a lot of JP fans. So expect more JP streams interfering with EN streams going forward.
>>87511958Unfortunately EN vtuber culture is very bad. Viewing vtubers as twitch thots with anime avatars is the most common perception. It will take time for FWMC to shift the culture but they are doing it, Shondo has said they're the best thing in EN vtubing right now and shes right
>>87495907Extra for what?
