>management forgot to submit Ina's documents for her visa to be renewed>Had to pay for the flights and travel back and forth>Had to cancel reservations and pay for them>Management fucked up her 3D anni and has to reshoot>NO REFUNDS
>>87705520>stuff that didn't happen
>>87705776>retard that doesnt watch streams
t. management: "Shouldn't have been born Korean"
>>87705520Luxiem is dead nijisister.
>>87705776Literally all of this happened. If you bothered to watch streams you’d know that
>>87705776https://www.youtube.com/live/UD9mef82XNs?t=568&si=ESCIsLMchVVuJd6e
>>87705776>runs damage control for incompetent management for free>doesn't even watch streamsSasuga, Holodrone.
>first Kronii>now Inauhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>87706835Oh no no no no, Holokeks. She sounds genuinely pissed.
>>87706927Can’t wait to see how everyone decides to blame Ina for this
>>87707016i bet they'll blame canada somehow
>>87705776don't worry, I'll make a clip so you can claim it happened. sorry I didn't realize you were stupid.
>>87707156Please do.
>>87706086>"Shouldn't have been born Korean"If Cover makes her schedule new time slots for her 3D live from scratch than it's not even a joke. That will delay her live by at least half a year and they are still making Ina pay for the scheduled time slots even though she can't use them. There is clearly other shit going on with Myth that put management in a foul mood but it's rare to see Hololive go this far to punish a talent.
>>87706975No, japanese people would never.
>>87705520Genuinely what did she do to deserve this? I literally never see her cause trouble or complain about management like Kiara, Mori, or Kronii do.
Is anyone gonna post source or are we supposed to just believe OP?
>>87705520Insider job
>>87707703I'm reading /wah/ and they seem to be confirming it.
>>87707679some never forgave her remarks about lone dweebs watching cartoon womensome say her mask slipped that day
>>87705776>>87705837>>87706686>>87706927>>87707016>>87707097>>87707156really fucking subtle, faggotswhy do you niggers pretend the number one group to shit on Holo's management isn't holofags is beyond me
>>87706835yagoo fucking ruined Ina's vacation...
>>87707950i talked about fucking canada dude take you meds before you hurt somebody
>>87707950uh oh melty
>>87705520yes yes yes but how does this affect the shareholders? Will Cover still maintain it's expected YoY revenue growth?
>>87707950
>>87705520It's pretty fucked hololive makes their talents pay for a lot of the shit they do. No wonder nobody does anything exciting in EN.
>>87707679you know that mistakes/incompetence just happen sometimes, without needing to be reactionary/retaliatory, right?i swear some of you sound like this sometimes, with all your schizo postinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOONIlhXFh4
>>87708174not for this quarter but probably later on but who cares about next year anyway?
>>87708237It's the real reason talents end up having to move to Japan: so they don't have to pay for travel to participate in events.Sasuga big corpo.
>>87707703Why are you fucker so lazy AND stupid there's the timestamped stream >>87706835 don't ever post with Reine's image again you massive retard
>>87707703>IDfag>can't read the threadPottery
>>87707703https://www.youtube.com/live/UD9mef82XNs?t=568&si=ESCIsLMchVVuJd6ehttps://www.youtube.com/live/UD9mef82XNs?t=568&si=ESCIsLMchVVuJd6ehttps://www.youtube.com/live/UD9mef82XNs?t=568&si=ESCIsLMchVVuJd6e
>>87706835That's going to be one hell of an expensive vacation with little in return
>InaWho? I only watch biboo
>>87708297FWMC moved so they could protect our smiles...
>>87706835oh she's mad
>>87708538>i'm an obnoxious and retarded touristWe know pebblephile, we know.
>>87706835Wait, she's talking about going to Japan and doing her "planned projects" but she can't stream because it's "working". What the fuck does that mean? It's roommate stuff I guess?
>>87706835Fucking hell, she's probably talking about tens of thousands of dollars. All because of incompetent corpo bullshit.Honestly, I won't blame her if she decides to throw the towel over this.
>>87708952Her voice quivering while her tries to keep her composure fucking sucks to hear
>>87705776I'm starting to think nijinijggers, phasecucks and holodrones are the exact same people......thread reading retards that never watch streams
>>87709096She can't even do the planned projects because the visa she has doesn't allow her to do it. Right now, she's just a tourist.
>>87709172She's pissed. I would be too.Hell, I'd quit over that type of bullshit. What type of company doesn't reimburse talents for their fuckups? A black company, that's who.
>>87709220I mean, some projects are obviously delayed. But it sounded like she said the reason she's going back to Japan (and therefore going on a streaming hiatus) is so she can complete the stuff she had planned.
>>87709096She going to Japan still because she can’t get her money back and cover won’t reimburse her. So it’s going to be an extended vacation
>>87705520Good, that'll teach her to actually double check her stuffs rather than being lazy and leave it all to the manager
I thought Ina was japanese?
>>87706835>So pissed her model was literally twitching>"I have to pick my words very carefully"Damn.
>>87709348No, she can’t work at all in Japan. The projects she had planned are just gone
>>87709348She's keeping her vacation plans with mama'nis. She can't do anything that counts as work in Japan, not even tweet, until her visa gets sorted out.
Why don't mods delete this blalant anti thread? Shut this shit down already for fucks sake
>>87709348You're right, she went to Japan to work on her Ina stuff. But she can't work, she can't do anything that resembles work. So none of the things she planned are going to take place. For now, it's just a vacation.
>>87709407Why can't she get her money back? Plane tickets, hotel reservations, all of these can be refunded at least a week in advance. Does she have nonrefundable tickets to Capybara Land?
>>87709600She found out when she was already in Japan.
I'm just amazed she won't get reimbursed by Cover for an absolutely fuck-up on their end. That's some kurosanji-type shit.
>>87709632Yes, but she had planned to come back home anyway for family stuff. So why is she going back instead of just streaming? I guess it's what >>87709507 said but the way she worded it was confusing.
>>87706835Sounds like takodachis are going to be left without Ina special things for a good long time.
>>87709348Yeah, the impression I got was that the whole reason why she's choosing to return to Japan and not stream is to be able to do the work she was planning on doing there. Not sure why that's shit she's allowed to do on a tourist visa (I guess it's just some loophole like that she's not technically being paid to do the recording and other prep work?)
>>87709547>>87709507>>87709491Stop spamming the board
>>87709765Right? I assumed it was like roommate art work or something, not related to her work with Cover so they can't tell her what to do (not sure how that works with tourist visas). Or maybe it really is just personal stuff, concert tickets or something she somehow can't refund.
>>87709437She's canadian korean.
This thread seems oddly familiar, oh righthttps://x.com/bvtm_tnd/status/1847400261616070953>bvtmI don’t care how retardedly incompetent holo managers are and how much they are in the wrong, you still should kill yourself.
You really have to wonder what management actually does if they can't properly see the major red flag that is a Visa expiring coming from 67 football fields away.
>>87710086no one cares about your stupid dramatuber, SEAfag. maybe you should watch holostreams though.
>>87709411>stuffsEverytime.
>>87706835She has every right to leave the company after this. What a shitshow.
>>87706086Based.
>>87706835Holy crap she is actually seething. Like really pissed.
>>87709947>>87710231>>87710326>>87710265Stop fucking talking about it
>>87707950kill yourself
isn't this pretty bad though?
>>87705520>NO REFUNDSThey actually offered her a refund for the week of no streams.>Had to cancel reservations and pay for themThis is normal, Irys also did that this week and the reason why is that the stuff they do is not all in Cover-owned studios. That stuff is all Ina's personal projects, could've they refunded it because they were the reason for the fuckup in the first place? I mean sure but it is what it is.
>>87710433Sorry that we’re shitting on your precious corpo, faggot.
>>87710673>>87710647>>87710525>>87710524Enough is fukcing enough stop right now stop your raid and your spam dont mention this ever fucking again fucking stop
>>87710647Paying her for a week of no streams when she now has to go the rest of the year not streaming is a stupid offer
>>87710766bvtm you are really bad at this.>>87710773She has some pre-recorded let's plays planned, also didn't she say mid of December at the end of the stream?
>>87710766uh oh melty
>>87710766
>>87710433reeeeeee
>>87710524It's very very bad. Tens of thousands of dollars bad.Of course, we don't know the details, the exact amount, or how much can be salvaged, but it's enough to ruin Ina's plans, whatever they were, for the next year or two.And who knows what the next year or two has in store.>>87710647>This is normalHaving your employees pay to grow your brand isn't normal.You remember how everyone shit on kurosanji for making their chuubas pay for their debut? Same thing.
>>87710766>>87710433>>87709847>>87707950
>>87710974>Having your employees pay to grow your brand isn't normal.You are really bad at this or extremely new.
What's going on here Holofriends?
>>87711041I admit, it's normal in the idol industry. But it shouldn't be normal for chuubas. Holos are essentially forced to move to Japan to reduce expenses, or just not do anything ever.
>>87710773>>87710842>>87710974>>87711041>>87711120When dramafags make a big deal out of this jsut remember the backlash that will come after is YOUR fault for not staying quiet fuck you
>>87711120>Idol industryYou are really bad at this or extremely new. They can give up 90% of their earnings and reduce 90% of the costs by giving the rights to their project to Cover, but most of them don't because what they earn from their project is a shitton of money.>>87711183Nigga I don't give a fuck I can't wait to laugh the next time pagpag connect doesn't pay their own vtubers for a concert.
>>87711082Ina is mad at Cover for fucking up her visa and causing massive delays in her self funded projects.
>>87705520couldn't happen to Nijisanji! HAHAHAHAH
>>87711183Us retards are the only one talking about this. Everyone else outside of vt is saying the same “it is what it is” type bullshit
>>87705520management sisters only fucks up like this with Hololive. If Ina was one of their precious booiiiiyyyysszzz this wouldn't have happened
>>87709196ITT: anon learns how this website works
>>87711242Stop already you gain nothing from this you're just being evil for the sake of being evil
>>87706835Suits being incompetent, it always sucks to see
>>87711242>giving the rights to their project to Cover???Cover already owns the IP and therefore the rights to whatever project they need. They can cancel it if they want, for whatever reason. Like they just did with Ina, for example.>give up 90% of their earnings and reduce 90% of the costsPretty sure the exact percentages have never been revealed. And they're still paying to grow a brand that doesn't belong to them. You can argue they make up the money twice over, so it doesn't matter... until it does, like just now.
>>87705520Why does Cover need to reimburse Ina when it's not a sanctioned business trip? Cover did not tell Ina to go to Japan, Ina went on her own.
>>87711621>Cover already owns the IPtrue>and therefore the rights to whatever project they need. Retard.>Pretty sure the exact percentages have never been revealedRetard.How new are you again? Do you watch Hololive?
>>87711021Oh no, don't summon him.
>>87708242When you fuck up you make it right. If you fuck up and make them pay for it, then further penalize them for your fuck up, then you lose plausible deniability. You were being punitive.
>>87709096My hourly reminder that everyone on this board is unemployed and doesn’t understand how the real world works. You need the correct visa to work in another country, this includes streaming. Get a job you fat fuck. >>87709600Unless they’re not refundable which is the case for many flights and hotels? Leave the house for once you fat fuck.
>>87711708If you're going to call me a retard for not believing you, you're going to have to provide a source on those percentages.>and therefore the rights to whatever project they need>RetardYou're the retard for not understanding how intellectual property rights work. A contract might divvy up the earnings based on the project, but Cover still has complete control over everything that happens with the IP.
>>87711082Cover can't manage Ina's Visa and she has a now a lot of shit delayed because their incompetence... 500 employees btwnothing we dont know already but i guess bvtnegros are trying to deflect plappa's new hate marketing strategy
>>87706835>no pulling punches>straight out saying cover fucked upDamn, she's absurdly polite and soft so for her to actually say it she must be extremely frustrated, furious or both.
>>87710524Monumentally bad. Cover fucking up is bad but unfortunate. We're all human, mistakes happen. Cover screwing Ina's pooch and then refusing to help her in any way shape or form and leaving her to twist in the wind is beyond the pale. She genuinely has good cause to sue, though we all know she won't.
I'll be surprised if Ina renews her contract. Sounds like she got fucked out of 1,000s of dollars that won't be recovered. Time to move on.
>company goes public >things start going further and further to shit. >old guard members start to become openly increasingly distraught with new direction of company. So I guess ina’s next to be out huh, what happened to this company Holokeks
>>87711869>Cover still has complete control over everything that happens with the IPWe are done, your word has no more value. Anything made on their own is theirs. If Cover funds it, they own it. We know this is true because Cover gave Okayu the option to sell the rights to her original song to them. Meaning she held the rights at the start.>you're going to have to provide a source on those percentagesNot gonna lie. I don't have them at the moment but just by watching streams they sometimes mention their cut, sometimes in a roundabout way and sometimes with a more direct approach. Pekora talked about years ago how you can decide if you want to get more money from merch or SC depending on the channel you are, the birthday merch usually has a 100% cut in favor of the talent, and many more examples.
>>87712124>mobile poster
>>87712069>sueLegal issues might be difficult if the terms are outlined in a contract. She'd have to sue them in Japan too. It's a non-starter.If I were her, I'd try to salvage and much as possible. But I'm not angry like she is, so she might just call it quits here.
>>87711829What shady fucking SEA airlines are you flying that don't refund tickets? What hotels make you pay months in advance and don't offer refunds? This is the sketchiest shit I've ever heard of and definitely not what she's talking about it.
>>87710086I want to see this faggot getting folded by a Phase member again.
>>87709743Calling it Kurosanji makes you sound dumb but yes this is 100% the kind of thing Cover should be willing to reimburse talents over. It's a mistake they made that cost a talent a lot of money out of their own pocket. Just have her submit the receipts for everything she paid for and the company pays it back as an apology + a little on top for wasting her time. Not doing so doesn't make them Kurosanji level, but it does make them pretty fucking shitty.
>>87711183>Holodrone acting exactly like a NijiniggerImagine my shock
>>87706835Holy shit, she's legit mad in this. I don't think her manager is gonna get any of the leftover kimchi anymore.
>>87712422Did you watch the stream? The only person she is not mad with is her manager.
>>87706835LMAO holokeks have shittier management than my PHASE CONNECT oshis.Shame, NINOMAE INNANIS is such a sweetheart; phase connect fans keep winning.
>>87712456Sounds like kumomane is the only reason she isnt more mad
>>87712456to be fair to that anon, she doesn't absolve spiderchan until after she's vented for a bit
>>87705520Based cover. For once they're laying down the law lazy whores don't get special privileges.
>>87705520Nothingburger. She already said she is back on full track starting in December.
Myth got lazy and they arnt #1 for EN anymore, so no more preferential treatment lmao. But hey at least they’ve obtained “mascot status” as that’s all that seems to matter from what chumkeks and the like cope about
>>87712279I think you should kill yourself.
>>87712540You don’t understand… Cover was the lazy ones here. Ina was actually working very hard to make sure her projects were on schedule and Cover fucked it up
>>87712609except for the part where she says her plans for 2025 are now delayed.
>>87705520NIJISEETHEwhat she gonan do? quiet the best job in the world?
They will compensate her somehow surely, right?, sure she already stated that there's no refunds but surely she's getting something out of this, otherwise why even stay with this kind of precedent?, sure doesn't sound that she earns enough money to simply ignore this fuck up either right?, she must be getting something out of this.
>>87711647she went to Japan because she booked a date for the 3d studio you fucking retard cover drone faggot
you retards really don't even know subtlety anymore
>>87712896Only seething i see in here is from holodrones
>Ame graduates >Gura doesn't stream>Ina fucked over and won't be streamingSounds like the perfect time to debut more males!
>>87712990The small dog knows only how to bark.
Genuinely this sort of thing reminds of the sort of stuff that made Nina, Pomu and a ton others leave
>>87712206>sell the rights to her original song to themThat doesn't make a lot of sense, unless the original song had nothing to do with the IP. Wait, was it mogu mogu? Was it also a fansub translation of what happened?Either way, it's interesting. I didn't realize it but a lot of hololive originals have nothing to do with the IP, aside from the MV, which Cover does 100% own. And it still doesn't line up with real examples, such as why kson has never tried to monetize Weather Hackers after the fact, so I don't buy your "talents own all the rights to the projects". It might be that they "own" the rights so they can claim the earnings of the music while they're still in hololive but Cover retains ownership if they ever leave the company.With that said, why aren't they offering to buy the rights to Ina's project, hmm? You think Ina would refuse?
>>87705520WAIT WHAT HAPPENED D: that's so weird, I think any one who has a work visa have never encountered anything like this before ToT did you received a confirmation/OK sign from manesan before flying to japan?
>>87711428Because they are capable of do shit without their managers. There is a reason why the two "graduated" ones were also the most manchild.
>>87713016They ought to use their EN daisenpai power to bully management and not bluff.
>>87713270Before I listen to another word of your retardation can you answer me. Do you watch Hololive? How new if so?
>>87705520>>Had to cancel reservations and pay for them>>Management fucked up her 3D anni and has to reshoot>>NO REFUNDSI watched the stream I didn't see this part. It seems like there was a fuck up, and it is going to fuck over her schedule. She's rightly pissed off. But the issue is both with Cover Management and Japanese Visa laws. And Cover is trying to right the issue but the remaining issues are with the Japanese immigration visas and shit.
>>87711829Most airlines/hotels provides refund. I don't know where you are coming from, but what you're experiencing wasn't the norm.
>>87713016>more males!Lmao, imagine having males in the same corpo as your oshi. Face Connect (my corpo of choice) does not have ANY males
>>87713281Kek
>>87705520So what happens if you fly to a country and your visa is denied? They can't exactly put you on a flight for free, do you just stay in your country's embassy there? It's not like she can walk back to the US.
>>87713401Okay sure JP Visa laws suck. Everyone knows that but after 4 years of being in en and multiple trips to Japan there should be some knowledge on how to deal with them and if cover can't do that then they should reimburse her for the time she spent dealing with their fuck up and the money she spent
>>87706835Ina for the last 2 years has always seemed like she was one bad day away from graduating and having her art be full time again.This legit seems like her outright admitting she's prepping to graduate.
>>87705520>biggest company>no support>she had to pay everything>couldn't even workHahahahahahahahahahaha
>>87713564Right, my point is that we don't have any evidence that they didn't. She didn't say anything about weather or not she was reimbursed or not.
>>87708448she's fucking seething lol. this would be all over the catalog for weeks if it was a niji.
>>87713588>she says the opposite in the streamNot even trying today aren't we?
>>87706835Apocalypse Incoming
>>87713665She would not be allowed to speak until she was fired if this was Niji.
>>87713401imagine being in a fucking japanese corpo lolat least the truth will be out now
>>87713417Important life lessonIf you book through a 3rd party website like orbitz, kayak, etc, there is a high probability you'll get fucked if something goes wrong. You're better off booking directly through the airline if it's a big trip and saving 20 bucks doesn't matter. I think Mint got fucked over a few months back on travel.
>>87713417The fuck? No they are not! Unless there's a fuckup on their end, hotels and airlines aren't going to refund you for a trip That you had to cancel. That's not how it works.
>>87708448why does she sound shes about to crydo women really
>>87713739Nobody cares though. The biggest coverage this gets is brownvtubermemes and pagpagconnect fans seething in the comments.
>>87713380How else would I know about "Weather Hackers"? Thread reading? You think I'm arguing in bad faith? Why are you being so defensive? You're the one who started namecalling me. Are you one of the holodrones unable to accept reality?Newflash triple retard, just because I like some hologirls doesn't mean I lick the boot like a roach.Now, I bothered to read your post and do some quick research to see if it lined up with what you were saying. I found no sources on the Okayu claim, but I don't need to because it makes logical sense that Cover would allow talents to monetize and profit from their own music... That is until they leave the company and forfeit the rights to the character and whatever was produced with said character. If they didn't, you would sure as shit see Rushia trying to profit off Rushia.If you can't do me the same courtesy, then you are right, we have nothing else to speak about.
>>87713674Ame, and Aqua, and other holos who graduated recently also said the same thing months prior to quitting/going the affiliate route.She's done, now is just waiting for the inevitable.
>>87713734Pomu spoke up numerous times about shit that happened to her in Niji including cancelled projects and shit like that. I'm not entirely sure why they didn't give her food that one time since literally everyone else, including Selen, talked about how the trip was paid for along with at least one meal a day and the hotel. Selen even talked about getting a salary from her manager to spend while she was there
The changes to Hololive in the past couple years have been fucking awful. The soul is vanishing piece by piece.
>>87713925It's what happens when businesses go public
>>87713907Pomu is mentally retarded
>>87713907I don't know because nijitrash is all trash but I think that was in members only content.
>>87713925The soul vanished after the Taiwan and Aloe incident.You're just seeing what happens after all the people who care, leave the company.
>>87713907Wasn't the only one Nina mentioned a lot about projects and ideas of hers being denied not long before her graduation announcement.
>>87714086Wrong
>>87705520>graduations>Ina gets FUCKED>Kronii gets FUCKEDBros... i'm genuinely starting to believe the Rrats that Yagoo is getting overruled by his board of directors since Cover went public.Which coincidentally falls around the time when things started to go to shit.
Fuck Cover and fuck Hololive. Bunch of fucking retard suits that don't care for the people streaming and only care about their precious brand.
>>87714250i missed that last part. what happend to kronii?
>>87714021>Pomu: "Can I have some food?">Mgmt: "No, give us your credit card"I dunno (wo)man, sounds like you are the mentally retarded one
>>87713734nijis have sadposted before during streams. i saw it on the 'log. this was an long time ago, back when they actually streamed.
>>87705520>Japanese fucked over the KoreanKek, based
>>87713842>reddit spacing>holodroneCatalog shitter or seething EOP. Call it.
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>>87714330Yes, fuck cover and fuck hololive
>>87713925>The soul is vanishing piece by piece.>ENreco is a massive success probably one of the best box games>HoloGTA is a ton of fun>BD was glorious>Fes around the corner>Justice is pretty good as a gen and is involving a lot of the old guard in new collabs and pairings>Holomusic is doing greatYawn where is the competition? Can you name something as good as the things I listed anywhere else?
>>87713401It's a pretty common propaganda technique; package a couple of lies with a couple of real things (cover fucking up the visa) so when you call it out they just point to the one real thing and imply the rest is also true.
>>87714731Having no competition is bad, retardo. Enjoy your minecraft worlds.
>>87714865>having no competition is badThat's not what I asked show me your soul content.
>>87714731Of course it's a fucking homolover
>>87714731you are a massive Cover faggot, all of these suck
Japanese corporations have always been bad. They've always been slow, obtuse, overly bureaucratic, and weighed down by out of touch literal boomers. This is the case for Cover, Anycolor, Brave, and even companies everyone loves like Nintendo. At least now some of you are seeing the light.
>>87714935Toyota isn't bad though.
>>87705520No way she had to pay for her own flights
>>87714731Minecraft and GTA roleplay are actually just meta now, there are actually many, many places you can watch those things.
>>87705520Why couldn't they lend her any money?
>>87714731Uh oh, you've done it they are gonna seethe now.The only way to bring up their shitter is by bringing down Cover they have no achievements.
>>87714913>show me your soul contentMinecraft worlds and GTA are not soul, if you think these things are peak I don't know how to help you in the first place
>>87714731HoloGTA didn't get close to what it was mimicking.
>/lig/gers, the NDF, and phasefags wait all year for yabs>this is the resultTry harder, you’ll surely end Hololive’s reign anytime soon.
>>87706835Ina.....
>>87715170The shit people are saying in this catalog bait isn't even 1/10th of the rage in /wah/
>>87715143And what was it “mimicking”, anon?
>>87715170>you’ll surely end Hololive’s reign anytime soon.they seem to be be doing it just fine on their own.
>>87715170I don't think liggers, the NDF, and phasefags have anything to do with Cover acting like a black company.
>>87715170Holoniggers are just as bad as the nijiniggers and phasecucks in that they worship the blue dorito and will downplay and deflect from any and all yabs they get
>>87715282Nothing they can say will ever match my fury against Omega.
>>87715143NijiGTA was trash bro.
>>87706835This might be the worst fuck up of all the fuck you Fuck you cover
>>87715170I'm a microcorpo enjoyer just here for the ride, but no, this is a pretty bad look. It's what black microcorpos do all the time. Make their talents pay for everything and then ghost their asses when it comes to helping out.
>>87714731You pissed them off, I would also like to add>Koyo koshien>Ogayu Visual novel>Mori's big halloween project>Korone partnership with Honda
>>87715170>bootlicker this hard
>>87713809Hmm, my points of subjects are from my own experience, it was two times for airplanes and one for hotel, no problem at all. Am I the outlier here?
>>87714731>>HoloGTA is a ton of funWhen all you do is take the GTA RP server from Brave/Nijisanji and indies from JP side and make it exclusive to Hololive only, you ruin so much of the interactionThen again, the Matsuri ERP probably make Dimitri rage jack off into a napkin and demand it never happen again
>>87713270What happened to Mel's music?
>actual nijiseethe over GTAI forgot they invented GTA RP, silly me. Why are you like this, NDFkun?
>>87713811Do women really want? She is extremy collected for someone in her situation.
>>87715938NijiGTA was just kuzuha, there were no other important characters. HoloGTA had multiple storylines and the whole experience was completely different than the classic trash you can find on public or white listed servers.
>>87715170Were you too busy playing volunteer PR /here/ to notice that 2 chuubas and a staff liaison have already graduated this year? But sure, nothingburgers all around.
>>87716078Gone with the wind...https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6sCvrPuIw3q-tMIXZYO0EgFHC1O7yhMX
>>87716161That dude baited them out. Well it was pretty obvious where most of the replies came from.
>>87716332This is about as retarded as they come
This thread tells me there are actually people who oshi the company Cover
>>87716161>>87716476>Holokeks resorting to same Nijisister deflection tactics they used to clown on them forHow the mighty have fallen
>>87716698what else can you expect from Amerilards? They'll literally shit talk a phone that isn't Apple, even if it has better variety and options, solely because it ISN'T <Company>
>>87716790You chimped out at the mere mention of HoloGTA bro.
>unironical Nijisis in a holoanti threadDo those people still exist? I thought they had disappeared, like dinosaurs or disco.
>>87716698I can criticize Cover without also tearing it down to the benefit of /lig/, you know.
>>87716809I doubt this is an American thing. Holodrones tend to be collectivist SEAs. You can tell because the staunchest Holotribals always have the worst grammar.
>>87705520>people still willingly suck yagoo's cock even if he doesn't give his talents any money
So let me get this straight cover management fucked up Ina's visa and refused to help her sort out the problem they caused?Did I get that right?
Not a Holo fan but i just hope they refund her if management fucked up.
>>87716985Show (Me) chimping out so I can laugh at your cope, bro.
>>87706835Is Hololive rigging normally this bad or is she losing her shit?
>>87717145you shouldn't want to be an idol for the money anywayyou should be an idol because you want to light up peoples hearts
>Cover takes cut of all donos, merch, etc.>Provides no help in returnYeah I'm thinking Black Company
I think it's better for me that INA should be able to bear the loss.Japanese companies, like Toyota, customarily pay their senior executives low remuneration.There is no room to cut executive remuneration to pay INA.There is room to pay INA from covered companies' earnings because they are profitable.However, the financial resources for payments to INA come largely from the amount earned by the JPs, as the company's profits are largely supported by the JPs' paid gigs and music sales.Japanese companies often have a system of ‘approval forms’, which Cover is likely to have adopted.This is a simple proposal that is made when big money is to be moved, such as ‘why it is necessary’ and ‘where it should come from’, and sent as a circular to all employees at section manager level and above in turn.Then, the employees at section manager level and above stamp their seal of approval as they go along, and if all approve the proposal, it is settled.If the content of the approval proposal states that the funding for the INA supplement will come from the earnings of the cover, the senior employees who read it might think, ‘Oh, it's going to come from the JP's earnings’.The JP members might also know the contents of the approval letter.From the point of view of INA's pride, the feelings of its employees, and the feelings of the senior JP members who are working hard to send their earnings to the management, I think it would be wise for INA to bear the costs here.inaが損した分を我慢した方が良いと自分は思うよ。日本企業はトヨタも同じだけど、慣習的に上級役員の報酬は低い。役員報酬を削ってINAに支払う余地は無い。カバー社には利益があるので、カバー社の収益からINAに支払う余地はある。しかし、カバー社の収益を支えているのはJP連中の有料ライブや音楽販売が大きいので、INAへの支払いの財源はJP連中が稼いだ額が大きい。日本企業は「稟議書」というものがシステムでよくあって、カバーが採用してる可能性は高い。これは、大きなお金を動かす時に「なぜそれが必要か」「どこの財源からだすか」などの簡素な提案書を作り、課長級以上の社員に順番に回覧板として送るものです。そして課長級以上の社員がどんどん認印のハンコを押して、全員が認めたら決済されます。もしINAの補填の財源を「カバーの収益から出す」と稟議書の内容に書かれてたら、それを読んだ上級社員は「ああ、JPの稼ぎから出すのか」と思うかもしれない。JPメンバーにも稟議書の内容が知られてしまうかもしれない。INAのプライドの面からも、社員の感情からも、一生懸命収益を運営に送ってるJPの上位連中の気持ちを考えても、ここはINAが費用負担することが賢いと自分は思う。
>>87717762This sounds like something staff would tell a chuuba after refusing to reimburse them for a business trip.
>>87717312They'll take two months to fix their oopsie and told her she could just drop her plans and to stream at home. Crazy they'd even suggest it when they know she paid her own money for them to begin with.>>87717358>refund herror
>>87705520>easily cost Ina ~$15k >no refund sowwyCover is fucking unbelievable
>>87717312>>87717358Cover notoriously never pays for non-company-mandated stuffs so Ina is probably short of luck unless they were demanding her to come back on those trips
>>87714731The sad truth is that Hololive is the best even with their fuckups
>>87705520Whoever was supposed to take care of that and didn't should be sodomized with a broken bottle
>>87717906she didnt do any business there so how is it business trip? ?
>>87717704Obviously losing her shit. Tremble in the voice, nervous laughs, she was a slight push away from crying there
>>87717704Their rigging was enough to achieve moderate success in 2020 and they decided to never improve it again
>>87717865
>>87718148Except Cover are the ones who fucked up, but are doing nothing to compensate for their fuckup
>>87718667>moderate successThis is actual, premium grade seethe.
>>87719050Sure sure but that rigging is pure ass, genuinely shocking.
>>87718148>never pays for non-company-mandated stuffsSure, but when they're the cause of her losing money and work opportunities... Imagine this being any other company in any other industry.
They're obviously not paying her back since it was all non-corpo expenses.They have to compensate her somehow though. This is deeply unserious coming from a public company. People have left their job for less.
>>87719487And if Cover keeps this up more will be leaving.
Just a reminder that the only reason vtubing hasn't gone to shit is because fans pitched a fit.The only reason they didn't get away with replacing Kizuna and gamebu is because fans lost their shit.The only reason they didn't fire Coco so they could sell merch to chinks is because fans went insane.The only barrier stopping corpos mistreating their talents is fan backlash, that's it, otherwise they'll do whatever they want.
>>87713555It's the airline's duty to bring you back home free of charge. They also get fined for bringing in an illegible person into the destined country.
25k getto
>>87719840wrong thread numberfag
Send Ina a bunch of superchats so she can recoup- oh wait most of that goes to Cover and Youtube.
>>87719487I think this whole situation is kind of funny because I've heard people talk about shitty jobs they had that would meticulously nickel and dime employees submitting reimbursement forms, analyzing receipts to make sure you didn't spend too much, all that shit just so they have to pay back as little as possible when taking an employee on a necessary trip. People complain about that, but here we have Cover doing ZERO lmfao. A good company would reimburse the trip cost. A great company would reimburse the trip cost + offer a stipend so the employee in a fucking personality-driven talent agency will still have an enjoyable time despite their fuckup. But they're leaving her with nothing.
>>87715938>you ruin so much of the interactionMost of the interaction of the Niji GTA server was standing there like a NPC waiting for Kuzuha, Hoshikawa or other of the main characters to show up.
>>87718992Perhaps I just missed it but where does she say it was Cover's fuckup?
>>87717134>Holotribals always have the worst grammar.So, americans.
>>87709125>she's probably talking about tens of thousands of dollars. All because of incompetent corpo bullshit.Ame leaves Hololive to be an indie vtuber, Gura refuses to shill her anniversary merch, and management has made a work visa "mistake" that will cause a huge delay with Ina's 3D live. Cover isn't evil but I am skeptical that was accidental. Ina hates the sleazy priestess design and obviously wants a 2.0 model redesign. Maybe they have some reason for not wanting to give her another 3D live since the studio time is valuable. If skimpy outfit Ina is going to vanish soon than management doesn't have a financial reason to give her studio time except for what is needed for the World Tour concerts. Cover is running a business though it was petty that she has to pay the cancellation fees for her 3D live.
>>87720261>management forgot to submit Ina's documents for her visa to be renewed
>>87718437they should be awarded a medal of honor you mean
>>87720536Is that supposed to be a transcript of something Ina said or what?
>>87720965Yes, watch the video
>>87719840is that how many dollars cover's fuckup is gonna cost ina?
>>87717865They are not paying Ina, they are paying for the incompetence of the person they hired (the one who should be managing the visa). Can't you recall the amount of cancelled projects from all talents due to unfinished paperwork? The financial resources aren't categorized via the talent's names or who earned them. It's only named by the place where they spend it. This is obviously a pain point that several talents have experienced. So either they find a way to fix their paperwork, or set aside a budget for their officeworker's incompetence.
>>87720474Welp, schiz outfit is here. Pack it up, boys. Thread is over.
>>87721007What video? The stream is over one hour long, and the part that was timestamped at the beginning of the thread doesn't seem to have anything of that sort.
>>87721007>watch InaNo thanks
>>87712279The guy that responded to you is a dick but basically, in this day and age, airlines (and I assume hotels) make you pay extra for a refundable ticket. Odds are Ina did not do that.
>>87718794kek
>>87721221Look at OP and then scroll down six posts
>>87720155You've got to remember that Cover used to make the foreign girls pay for everything. Myth had to pay for their plane tickets and hotel rooms when doing recordings. I don't even know what they did with visas. "Small vtubing company, pls understand."Obviously, they can't (and shouldn't) get away with this nowadays, but they're still not paying extra.
>>87706086What can Ina do to atone for such terrible sin?
>>87706835Damn, I don’t know if I can lose another Myth member
>>87721337Why would the airline refund her? They got her to Japan and back with no issues, they completed their end of the deal.
>>87715170Nah, this year has been rough on Hololive. There's no denying it. I just hope someone up top sees the writing on the wall and can course correct but knowing Japanese corpos, I doubt it.
>>87720474Can't even enjoy a bait thread these days without outfit schizo showing up ffs.
>>87721410Yes, that's the one I've watched. The timestamp doesn't mention the part you quoted. Care to give me the exact timestamp?
>>87705776Congrats /vt/, you fostered this kind of nijinigger mentality for holo.
>>87706835Yeah she's fucking goneRIP Myth, at this rate Mori will be the only one standing because I don't think Kiara would accept this bullshit either
>>87706835kurolive...
If you want the company to pay for it, talk to the JP member who earns the money and the company might pay for it.‘Hololive earnings’ is ‘money earned by Hololive members’. Definitely.It's a system where the members who earn more, bear more, so the management is probably concerned about the JPs and not sure whether to pay INA or not.Why don't you, per micomet and marin, who earn more money, tell the management, ‘Why don't you bear the burden?’ If they say, ‘Why don't you pay for it?’, they will pay for it.But there is also the issue of INA's pride and their internal influence later on.It is better not to make the management bear the burden here. Calliope's situation got better and better when she was patient with the management.In my opinion, cover has quite an element of internal politics. I feel that the way internal politics makes the position worse may get you a few coins on the spot, but less later on.会社に負担をさせたいなら、稼いでいるJPメンバーに相談すれば会社が負担するかもしれない。「ホロライブの収益」は「ホロライブメンバーが稼いだお金」だよ。間違いない。より稼ぐメンバーが、より負担する仕組みなので運営もJPを気にして、INAに払うかどうか迷ってるのではないでしょうか。稼いでるmicometやmarinあたりが運営に「負担してあげたらどうだ?」と言えば、負担してくれるんじゃないか?でも、INAのプライドや、後々の社内影響力の問題もある。ここは運営に負担させない方がいい。カリオペは運営に我慢してたらどんどん状況が良くなっていった。自分が思うに、カバーは社内政治の要素が結構あるのではないか。社内政治で立場が悪くなるやり方はその場での小銭は得られても後々の得が少なくなる気がする。
>>87705520>>87706835>didn't even get compensated>by the gorillion dollar company>of which you're a key(myth) member of>for their mistakeWhat did Yagoo mean by this?
>>87721799You're posting in a catalog thread, look somewhere with actual discussion and pretty much everyone was pissed
>>87721811>I don't think Kiara would accept this bullshit eitherDon't threaten us with a good time!
>>87705776>company > talentswhy are we like this?
>>87717704Ina's has always been bad because she has terrible posture
>>87721952What is this nigga even talking about?
>>87722079If Kiara and Ina both leave, and Gura remains soft graduated, then HoloEN is effectively dead even if everyone else stays. You can't survive your founding gen all ditching - see IdolEN.
If she's not a cuck she'll quit over this. Classic Jap corpo fuckery.
>>87722066>implying
>>87705520>Management fucked up her 3D anni and has to reshoot>NO REFUNDSyou cant be serious
>>87717865>>87721952Black belt Brown noser 胡麻擂り
>>87722079If they had done that to Kiara, she would have firebombed Cover's HQ.
>>87722239Yes, you can check global or /wah/, ina's splitplaces where actual fans post and not just shitposters trying to piss off other shitposters
>>87706835It ia Takover
>>87722357>global >actual fans
>>87722221>then HoloEN is effectively dead even if everyone else staysLike I said, don't threaten us with a good time!
>>87722357>global>fans of anythingYeah, the company. The exact point anon was making.
>you can actually hear the anger in her voiceThat fucking sucks but it's also funny
>>87722357You'd be shocked to learn just how little people in Global give a damn about anyone except whoever's got the most numbers at the time.Also, to be honest, a lot of people genuinely believe Cover is a perfect company who can do no wrong. Fucks sake, there's STILL Holoearth defenders on this board. Not many, but the number should be 0.
>>87721952Yagoo can pay
>>87722339I actually like Kiara, but I kinda wish this happened to her instead for the sheer content
>>87722538No? They were all shitting on Cover. You're unironically more likely to find fans of the corpo in the catalog because this is where tribalfags and dramafags camp
Cover has one job and that is to look after their talents and offer them a better deal than fucking off and going indie. They should be bending over backwards to make this up to Ina, if they don't, why shouldn't she leave?She'll get everything she's been working on out, and then she'll graduate, and it'll be 100% Cover's fumble. They've grown too much, management has grown too much, talents are expressing dissatisfaction and internal problems are costing them time, money and creative freedom. Hololive has something special, they have an incredible eye for talent and have cultivated a mostly good community of people (outside of here at least). It really sucks to see them fuck up a good company culture.
>>87722357>global>actual fansfunniest post on the board right now
Erm, Holobronies? Didn't you say it was just a Visa issue and that Ina wasn't pissed at Holo management?
>>87723096... it's still a Visa issue
>>87721952>>87717865Are they are actually sending interns to 4chan to do damage control?
>>87723096She's pissed because Holo management fucked up the Visa and ruined her plans.
>>87717865What the fuck? Tell me, did you comprehend the contents of Ina’s entire stream and what she said? Do you speak English?She said she’s done everything right on her end. She did all her paperwork, submitted deadlines on time, everything. In advance. Someone in cover fucked up. Ina now has to deal with the consequences. In other countries, the person that fucked everything up would get fucking fired.
>>87721952Tell me which JP member is paying for HoloEarth. Obviously no one, because it's a company project, not a project from the talents, yet the budget being used is from their earnings
>>87721952Gura made Hololive. Without EN, Marine would be a prostitute and Pekora would be getting sexually harassed by the principal of the kindergarten she teaches at.
>>87721952You know this attitude is why you guys kill yourselves all the time, right?
>>87705520It's LITERALLY fine when Hololive does it.It's the privilege of having the blue dorito next to their name.Don't like it? Do better than them.
>>87723287>Do you speak English?I'm 80% sure he's copy/pasting shit from a 2ch thread.
>>87719840Based numberchad remembering the shitters how below they are.
>>87723096I still can't find where she says she's pissed at management tbdesu
>>87723565>there are anon's this autistic on the boardalways knew but god damn this is robot levels
>>87721952>Why don't you, per micomet and marin, who earn more money, tell the management, ‘Why don't you bear the burden?’ If they say, ‘Why don't you pay for it?’, they will pay for it.>But there is also the issue of INA's pride and their internal influence later on.>It is better not to make the management bear the burden here. Calliope's situation got better and better when she was patient with the management.this attitude is so japanese it made me laugh
>>87723676timestamp pls
>>87705520>Yellow liver leaves because of creative differences>Purple liver gets suspended because of management fuckupsWhy can't Hololive be original for once?
>>87721952You are hyper focusing on the “pay” part. Let me break it down for you.Ina didn’t do anything wrong. She had been patient. She submitted her schedule and everything in advance.One person fucks up and they don’t send the form.Now Ina is set back because of this one lazy employee. Forget reimbursement, she wasn’t even talking about it that much, so stop talking about Ina’s pride. Go fucking fire that person who made the mistake. I’m sick of this Japanese attitude of “it can’t be helped”. It lets mistakes from lazy people go by and people who do things correctly suffer. It’s why overseas people see Japanese companies as incompetent and outdated. It’s why Gamefreak gets their data leaked because one employee falls for a phishing link.
That fucking awful, I wouldn't blame Ina if she straight up quit or "quiet quitting" like Gura, and start to doing the barely minimum and stream once every two months.
>>87724190Anon, you are arguing with someone copy-pasting comments from a japanese site. You have better chances of have a dialogue with a bot.
>>87723785where she's openly pissed off? idk, about the time she starts explaining things in >>87706835
>>87724190>I’m sick of this Japanese attitude of “it can’t be helped”.to be fair, this situation with the visa really is a "it can't be helped" moment. sure the employee processing the visa messed up, but what's done is done. they can fire the employee but what good would that do? it's not like firing the one who messed up will suddenly get the JP immigration going: "right, they fired the guy. approve the work visa now." i don't know if the decision can be appealed but i'd rather give cover the benefit of the doubt that they're trying to mend the situation in one way or the other.
Fishman would never do this.
>>87724190why you so sure there is no firing?
>>87724190It's by design you dumb gaijinKoreans have no place in Hololive
>>87722757I promise you it's like 2 or 3 absolute fucking psychos in global doing that shit religiously, and a few more who take the bait. Everyone else is chill.
>>87724801Literally who?
>>87724762They've had over a week to figure out how to mend it, their answer is "sucks to suck, waste your time & money again Ina"
>>87724753That one doesn't mention Cover fucking up or Ina being pissed at them. Give me the exact timestamp.
>>87724948i hope they're talking about the band fishmans because i don't know anything else in japan that's remotely popular with the name fishman.
>>87724136Mint getting away from reeking toxic Elira is the best thing to happen to herAt least Dooby didn't have shitty coworkers
>>87725101>At least Dooby didn't have shitty coworkersDYRBI?
>>87725154yes
>>87725009see what i mean? robot levels of autism
>>87724762They don't have to fire anyone, just reimburse Ina and make it up to her. From what Ina has said, they bafflingly seem uneager to do that. The first thing they should have done was reensure Ina that it was their fuck up and they will do what they can to make sure she is fairly compensated and looked after. The whole operation lives and dies on Hololive being more appealing to talents than going indie, so it lives and dies on talent satisfaction.
>>87724999then it looks like the decision can't be appealed. what else can you realistically do then. reimburse her, i guess? but that's opening a can of worms with other members too.
>>87725346The fuck are you talking about? I just want to hear the part regarding Cover everyone is talking about.
>>87725476>reimburse her, i guess? but that's opening a can of worms with other members too.So you're implying that Cover has pulled black similar Black Company moves like this before? Not a good look
>>87725154Yeah
>>87724190I think it is wise that the INA is not obsessed with reimbursement. I think it's silly that the fans are obsessed.Cover appears to me to be a company with strong internal political power.Claims of reduced influence within the company have a lot to lose.Your claim that you should issue a penalty to the employee who made a mistake, but I think ‘that employee's internal political power’ will definitely be reduced.The culture of harakiri and shame is still present in Japan, so I think employees with reduced internal political power will feel uncomfortable.払い戻しにINAがこだわってないのは賢いと思う。ファンがこだわってるのは愚かだと思う。カバーは社内政治力が濃い会社に自分には見える。社内の影響力が落ちる主張は損が多い。ミスした社員にペナルティを出せというあなたの主張だけど、「その社員の社内の政治力」は間違いなく落ちると思う。ハラキリと恥の文化は日本には残ってるので、社内政治力が落ちた社員は居心地が悪くなると思う。
>>87725009Anon, that entire part of the stream was Ina shitting on Cover for fucking up her Visa so horribly and not reimbursing her. If you want her to say>cover is a black companythen you're not going to get that, but you can hear the rage in her voice and how she's trying to keep statements as level as possible because she's a professional. Something I'm sure you're not familiar with.
>>87725688you're implying that. don't put words in my mouth.
>>87724190https://youtu.be/uBFddeyCVok?si=NJiWskaKyfEnu9BI
>>87725842Damn JP are cucks no wonder they die of overwork
>>87726026Then what "can of worms with other members" does this open? It would only do that if this has happened before.
>>87726344What other hololive member has Visa issues? Gosh, anon, I don't know.
>>87726002Ok so this whole discussion is based on the assumption that she's pissed at Cover, as opposed to some third party firm or the JP government, despite not mentioning any name, just to make things clear.
>>87726496She's totally happy with Cover for forgetting to re-submit forms, not paying for her flights or cancelled reservations among various other work-related expenses. Yep. Sure.
>>87726496Holy fucking cope. Why is it so hard for you faggots to admit your precious suits fucked up?
>>87726490Well, if you don't know, then it just shows how well Cover drones have covered up the company's past similar Black Company moves
>>87726496>Ok so this whole discussion is based on the assumption that she's pissed at Cover>the assumptionWhat did he mean by this?
>>87726002see this >>87726116
>>87726605Where does she mention that?>>87726654I'm just trying to understand where the truth ends and the shitposting begins.
Cover is dying. Such an important thing would never have been missed if A-chan was still around. I can't imagine what other trainwrecks are in motion within the company now.
>>87726605>>87726654>>87726694>>87726757https://youtu.be/8u-_Uh89R9w?si=ccOBi1Y3_ywz2yVI shit happen even if you hire the best people to do the job. get over it you fking jobless.
>>87725154If by coworkers, you mean the dirty fucking nip staff-san, then yes, DYRBI.
>>87727027Who the hell is this and why should anyone waste 10 minutes of their time watching your irrelevant normalfag Youtuber?
>>87726919>>87727027
>>87726822Stop seething. I welcome Ina's graduation, she will do well as an indie.
>>87727140I'm not clicking that, Mori. Stop linking your fantasy boyfriend.
>>87727158I'm just making questions, and getting no answers.
>>87725842Someone else's shame is of little benefit to the affected party. Must be great to be a higher up in Japan. Just act ashamed and you'll magically conjure up something the person you fucked over believes is adequate recompense. A material injustice has occured, your shame helps no one, you don't have to lose your job or suffer the wrath of mysterious office politics, just fix the problem and make it up to the people you fucked over. JP bros are right though, it comes down to a difference in cultural values and customs, it's difficult for me to see it from my perspective -- but it's probably difficult for Ina to see it too, and if so, why should she stay and put up with it when she can take her audience elsewhere?
>>87726822She mentions it in the timestamps linked three times over by now you dumb faggot. Listen for more than 2 seconds to hear her eventually put the onus on the company by saying "it's up to them" and "it's out of my hands".
>>87727158>she will do well as an indie.If Ina graduates she is not going to become a indie. She is going to fully devote to her main job and stop streaming.
>>87727225or you afraid your rrat get btfo. even US get mess up
>>87726496>literally explicitly says its up to the company now>DURRRRRR BUT HOW IS SHE PISSED OFF AND HOW IS IT THEIR FAULT
>>87727158>she will do well as an indie.This board has several actual unmedicated schizophrenics who regularly post, and this is still the most deranged thing I have ever seen said here.
>>87727370They who? do you think cover have a visa department to handle it or they do what everyone does which is hire a third party?
>>87727619>They who?>hear her eventually put the onus on the company by saying "it's up to them"Listen with your ears nigger.
>>87727370>them>the whole discussion is based on an assumptionI guess that's all there is to it, then>>87727554Things being up to the company doesn't imply the fuck up was caused by them, either directly or indirectly
>>87727027You're right. Shit does happen. I don't think that immediately firing someone for making a mistake is necessarily the right thing to do. But if it happens then you make things right for the person affected by it
>>87727619>submitting documents that were already filled out for you requires a third partyThe absolute state of Cover bootlickers.
>>87727619>>87727744holy ESL batman
>>87727806watch the fking vid >>87727027 you moron.
>>87727845Stop deflecting and provide something concrete
>>87728111>gets linked timestamps a dozen times>DURRRRRRRR LINK SOMETHING CONCRETEokay
>>87727124LMAO
>>87728264The timestamp doesn't provide what you claim it does
these newfag are really getting brainwashed by vt's BS being repeated said, there is nowhere anyone saying anything about someone "forgetting" to send a document. where the fk did you all get it from? see this >>87727027 and tell me who is the one fk up?
whoever is seething and deflecting in this thread is confirmed a corpo shill and not a holo fan because most genuine holo fans are busy watching the big collab right now instead of wasting time arguing on /vt/
>>87728586I'm pretty sure it's just a buncha ESL's at this rate. It's a good side-course to the stream.
>>87728586The irony
>>87728508She tweeted about it a week ago retard. She confirmed that the reason she wasn't able to tweet for a time was because of a Visa fuckup and the stream tiemstamp in this thread is the aftermath.
>>87729511holy shit watch the fucking clip you imbecile, that is visa problem too and it don't have anyone "forget" anything. did she said anyone mess up?
>>87728508>>87727619>>87727027It's always the ESL's that are quickest to lock mgmt's boots.
>>87729758BOO NIGGA
>>87729875AIIIIIIEEEEEEEE, NOT LIKE THIS HOLOKEKS!
>>87712987She booked the studio for her own project. It's not a hololive project. Again, it's not a sanctioned business trip.
>>87729875>>87729977they just don't want to point at JP gov and piss off the JP.
>>87730128Is Ina a fucking affiliate? No. Which means everything she does related to Cover is Cover's responsibility.
>>87730128If it wasn't a business trip, then there would be no reason for Cover to (fail to) get her a business visa.
Don't care, still watching hololive. Still buying merch. Still keeping my memberships.
>>87719766>The only reason they didn't fire Coco so they could sell merch to chinks is because fans went insane.but they did do this? hell holo is back to begging for china to buy their stuff
>>87709746Yes, when shes talking about "not getting reimbursed" that's just the what if scenario if she stayed home and she was talking about not getting reimbursed for her vacation plans with Mama'nis. So all this about cover not reimbursing her is bullshit because she's not losing anything.
>>87705520>had to payShe's rich.
>>87705520>Had to pay for the flights and travel back and forthWatch streams faggot she literally said the trip back home and back to Japan was already planned
>>87732430Planned by who, her or the cmpany?
>>87711242Sounds like you should be working for Nijisanji riku would love you and give you a room in the engine bay of his yacht.
>>87732535Her, she went back for family stuff and to bring Mama'nis back to Japan with her.
>>87728034Go fuck yourself. I'm not clicking your grifter link, faggot. Dumb holodrone cunt.
Man, Hololive is actually dying. We're really going to see the effects of it next year.
>>87732535>>87733059In fact since she's going back to Japan she's not losing money.The "reimbursement" comment was only in reference to if she stayed home, since she decided to go back to Japan she doesn't have to cancel plans and reservations she made amd mot losing that money.This whole thing is a nothingburger
>>87733506she seems pretty mad for a nothingburger
