>Just got 2.0 model 4 months ago>Already has 3.0 model ready>Meanwhile the majority didn't even have 2.0 model yetWhat gives?
I hate mori but this is retarded>ame gone>gura doesn't stream>kiara doesn't deserve it>Ina got her 2.0might as well move on to 3.0
>>88008447>lying for freeMyth was the only gen that was lagging behind on the 2.0 updates since later gens got those automatically. ID2 and HoloX have debuted after Myth and they are getting their 3.0 updates as we speak. If anything, the shitposting topic should be about why is Myth neglected so bad by the staff.
Where is the issue here?
>>88008447Even 3.0 is lagging behind indies.We need 4.0 already at this point so they stop looking dogshit when collaborating with others. Holo's 3D looks great, but the live2D models are still... not good.
>>88008685>>when collaborating with others.So the solution is to stop collaborating with others, got it.
>>88008447>Works the hardest>Creates most big projects for EN>Has the most overall views every month>Has music deal with universal>Has multiple collaborations with big brands>Still stream more than most ENs even while sickOP its less favoritism and more like earning what she deserves
>>88008447>>88008475>>88009023catalogue faggot retard
>>88008685Yes, they all need 50 things that twitch or move every time they breathe. And their external collabs don't always make them look bad. Look at any collabs with a niji.
>>88009205who works harder?
>>88008447Mori deserves to be the most subscribed instead of Gura.
>>88009205When was the time last gura streamed?
>>88008447>Should have gotten 2.0 about 2 years ago>delayed>already overdue for 3.0>gets them both within 2 monthsThe actual timeline.
>>88009991What level of falseflag is this? Will you proceed to reply to your own bait?
>>88008447>Meanwhile the majority didn't even have 2.0 model yetwho the fuck is this "majority" all jp and almost all id already have 3.0 already
>>88009109>>88009205You can scream into the void until you throw up, but your impotent rage changes nothing.
>>88010866Indeed, nothing anyone does here matters, she will always be the least popular
I’m posting here to laugh at this nigga because I’m petty >>88002963>uhm, having even the mildest of an ability to express themselves is bad actually because of this reason i just made up! holo models aren’t stiff!
>>88010592I’m pretty sure OP is taking about favoritism within EN, not EN being favored over JP and ID.
Need an expert/historian on Hololive Vtuber models getting 2.0 and 3.0, what new stuff are these really getting? Does anything in the model change? Are certain things locked to each variant? Also, is it a remodel from cero trying to make it look as 100% as the first release/1.0 or do the files/textures from the 1.0 get this so-called 2.0 and 3.0 expression and whatever other things?
>>88010911pffft>>88010922>mildest of an ability to express themselves When she’s gaming, she has crazy eyes 60% of the time minimum. It’s not “expressing herself”, it’s just that her tracking overreacts to her eyes being slightly wider when looking directly at the screen. Maybe watch streams, nigger.
>>88011064>sheWho the hell are you even talking about
She paid her own money for it. Any other can do this if they want.
>>88010521Mori Calliope deserves to be most subscribed EN Vtuber instead of Gawr Gura and that's a fact.
>>88009205Anon, Mori has released multiple albums, on top of all her regular streaming work, with her writing lyrics for most of the songs and even animating music videos for some of them herself. No one else in EN is doing anything near her level.
>>88011638They still hate for appearing on some podcast that no one cares about.
>>88011638>her writing lyricThe other anon is an idiot, but come on now
>>88011832I don't understand what exactly your contention is here. Is it that you don't think she writes lyrics or that you don't think writing lyrics is work?
>>88011876I just don't think it's notable or worth mentioning along something as time consuming as animating. She herself has said she doesn't spend much time or work on the lyrics at all. If you want to go for a "hard worker" angle you'd probably be better off mentioning the retarded amount of paperwork Cover makes her do for all her projects and shit.
>>88009205I see the "works hard" cope always applied when someone doesn't think their oshi is popular enough and thinks popularity is some 9 to 5 punch card entitlement. Anyway Mori's popular enough with indies shrilling her to get Holo attention.Catalog just wants another poor veiled EN hate thread.
>>88009023>has the most overall views every monthComparing music views to stream views is incredibly disingenuous, especially when it’s common knowledge that music streaming makes next to money. Not to mention, you’re comparing the views on a 2 minute music video to the views on a 2 hour livestream, 1 view for mori only requires 2 minutes of watchtime, while a view for anyone else requires actually watching a stream which takes multiple hours
>>88008447ID3: Hi
>>88009023>has multiple collaborations with big brandsThat’s just cause cover realize show hard mori has declined and they want to keep her music deal so they push and promote mori way harder then any other en girls, it has nothing to do with her working harder… hell she actually makes it pretty clear on her PL that she doesn’t really work that hard. She has said multiple times that she doesn’t spend any real time writing songs, she procrastinates it like crazy, and then will spend like 5 minutes writing something before she has to go in the studio to record
>>88011544Life isn't fair.
I miss old Calli's manic eye tracking.
>PLoh, lmao, figures
>PLNDF detected
>>88008447You work hard you get more models You don't do shit then you don't get shit simple as
>>88008475Kiara does deserve it I don't particularly like her content but she works hard she was the reason these damn myth off collab happened. Kiara and Mori carried myth to where it is today because even ina lied one time about "losing" her work phone for 3 months to get away from streaming duty everyother time she took break was due to rm work.
>>88012378Nijiseethe aside, this is always such a funny line of thought>she got the One Piece collab cause she's declining>she is making songs for anime cause she's declining>she gets special merch deals cause she's declining>she got on Billboard's 100 Top artists list cause she's decliningby this logic, Mori must have more money pumped into her to stay afloat than Twitch at this point
>>88012782Uh. Her doctor told her she couldn't use phones or the internet.
>>88008475Gura got her 2.0, watch streams
>>88012292Mori streams and releases music
>>88012948he might've forgot, I think it was used around 4 times after the introduction
These kinds of threads already happened with 2.0 and everyone knows the rest of Myth will show theirs in the upcoming weeks depending on their schedule. In others words, retarded threads as an excuse to bait and seethe
>>88012378>That’s just cause cover realize show hard mori has declined and they want to keep her music deal so they push and promote mori way harder then any other en girlsNah. That's just how popularity works. She was way more popular before so she got some good exposure and collabs, which then opened her up to more good collabs because>Oh, she collabed with X? Must be popularEventually that wears out though, especially if you ease up on keeping that cycle going.
>>88012914and yet she still doesn't stream
>>88008447every gen past Myth had 2.0 implemented on debut, there are currently 0 hololive talents without the 2.0 update
Mori is everything wrong with HoloEN Deadbeats don't understand the concept of damage to brand imagenone of these discussions matter since Gura said she's looking forwards to her 3.0no Gura = won't watch your shit /thread
>>88013451Mori streams daily and releases new content This is wrong for some reason.
>>88012873Dr. Cope advised this to her I was there!
>>88013052Or the seething eop Amerilard who wants to be Japanese so bad can't comprehend that Japanese like mori and her music which is why she's popular in japan.
>>88013572wow! there's a Shrek reference in Mori's performance at Coke Studio Live 2024, people must love it!!!
>>88013802Surely you're joking. There's no way she's still hung up on the Shrek thing.
>>88013451I do wonder what's the brand damage of your most subbed talent effectively fucking off, coming back only to shill and "joking" that she's semi-retired during those rare instancesalso vocally complaining how management stifles her projects and song releases while people around her keep releasing multiple projects and song releases a year
>>88012914>watch streamshmm
>>88008447it's not favoritism it's earned from all her hard work. favoritism would be one of the StarsEN getting 3.0 before everyone because they don't earn shit everything is handed to them
>>88009109Learn to spell you esl faggot
>>88008447She works hard, the others don't. Simple as.
>>88013902And connor too
>>88014851Yep, Yagoo said he wanted her to take over when he retired for a reason.
>>88008447Being the hardest working EN member pays off.
>>88011959Yes? ADHD people have a different process in getting things done but it's mostly the energy expended.
>>88008584Myth having to wait 4 years for their 2.0 model updates is a horrible delay even for a foreign Hololive gen and it's curious how badly they get treated by management. Ame never got her Live2D update while because of the expired work visa Ina won't be able to get her 3.0 until at least 50 months after her debut. Ina was going to announce something during her 3D live until it was indefinitely delayed.
>>88012948Except her stream viewership is explicitly lower then everybody else and has been for a while, that’s the point i’m making.
>>88017747/#/. We let you have your own thread, stay in it.
>>88014132Gura isn't even there most of the time what fuckinh projects is she fighting for.
mori being a hard worker is the funniest cope I've ever seen, if you keep spamming it it MIGHT become true eventually
>>88012292Her vod views are pretty high too last I saw, only under fauna(not courting gura since she streams like once a month now). She always had an oddly split audience due to her past steaming habits of half morning and half last night JST stream times.
>>88017885She's fighting back by not streaming. Blame cover for not giving in to her demands.
>>88018081Based Cover
>>88018081Can I get a quick rundown? What's the full story of the Gura drama?
>>88008447The Mori CEO rrat is real and you will kneel.
>>88017972Even her most mentally ill antis still agrees she put in a huge amount of work. You are somehow worse than that.
>>88018371Nobody agrees that besides her mentally ill fans
>>88012484She still has it
>>88008475you have to be fucking retarded to think Kiara isn't entitled to it.I hate the fucking eggs and wishes every collab to not include Kiara because her voice is fucking grating my ears. But any decent HoloEN fans knows how much of a fucking hustler that orange bitch is.She deserves every rigging update they have after Gura ofc.and seriously, i hope they keep her out of collabs
>>88013902When has anyone in the /vt/ catalog lied? About Mori? Come now.
>>88008447Mori and Kiara are the only ones in Myth who actually give a shit. She deserves the attention, support and resources.
>>88018422lollmao
>>88018584> MoriShe is a workaholic and doesn't want to go back to Texas>KiaraWants to be successful and to finally live her Karen-ish lifestyle without restraint> Verification not required
>>88018795Mori has her permanent residence now. She could be fired and still stay in Japan.
>>88012292Views include everything on their channel, not just streams. Ignoring her non-stream views isn't going to stop her from being the most viewed EN, and bringing up how much money it makes is pointless since she's one of the richest ENs anyways
>>88019447>Ignoring her non-stream views isn't going to stop her from being the most viewed ENYou're really gonna have to double check your homework on that one bud
>Mori posts a video with "Annoucment" in the title>bait thread pops up with the same tired bull shit as alwaysI've been seeing this shit clog up the catalog for at least 2 years, it's got to be a bot right?
>>88017885>Gura isn't even there most of the time what fuckinh projects is she fighting for.She had to sign an NDA like the rest of Hololive so I don't think she can give an honest answer. Management is clearly angry with Ina for some reason and was convenient how the expired work visa only delayed her 3D live.
>>88019709
>>88019922this really shows how irrelevant views are in the grand scheme of things
>>88019713Another huge Mori announcement. She uses it as bait.>>88019922ERB dead last.
>>88019716She is never there cover literally has to beg and pester her to stream kiara has to fucking pester her like a flea in a dog's ass for gura to come down from her almighty throne for a collab. Trust me she's not working in no fucking projects she's been telling you this shit for 3 years 4 years in 2 more months.
>>88020192If Cover treated EN fairly it wouldn't be a problem, but no.
>>88020309What you mean treated fairly? They are treated even more fairly because cover unlike Nijisanji is aware of western Twitter mob. Gura is just lazy there's no excuse. You can cope all you want. And is not just gura but western women in general feel like things should be handled to them on a fucking silver platter just because they're from the west. Advent and justice are fucking carrying holoen as we speak. And Kiara and mori can only carry myth for so long. And you say they aren't treated fairly then they can just quit then go indie and work on those "projects" she's been working on 3 years lmao but noo shilling merch every 3 months is easier.
>>88020960Do you think Ina feels like she's being treated fairly?
>>88008475pretty much this>>88009023and a small bit of thisMori being a hard worker was always more of a meme, and realistically it's more about her procrastinating for 9 out of 10 hours and then doing her work in the final one.HOWEVER, since 2022, she has actually been streaming more, and even though she has declined in most of her metrics since her debut, she still racks up a ton of views and money.Also, the bar she has to pass to be considered "the best in her gen" by Cover is just to get more views and earn more than Kiara or Ina,since Gura probably has an EN Ayame deal going on, where she just shows up once a month, standing above the rat race.This leads to the only valid point for OP, which is that the way Cover rewards the girls based on views and subscriber milestones is incredibly antiquated and retarded.It creates a feedback loop where girls like Mori (even if she may deserve it) are still, years after their debut, being rewarded for a strong first appearance and hype, which realistically does less for Cover in the long run than dedicated fanbases.so Kiara for example probably deserves it more for being an equally hard worker without getting those treats during her career but that is neither Moris fault or some kind of favoritism beyond usual cover retardation
>>88020192I blame Cover and they know exactly why Gura is refusing to stream. That she wouldn't even shill her anniversary merch didn't look good for anyone. Myth is angry, management is angry, and the fans are stuck in the middle of what might be the worst fight in the history of Hololive.
>>88021225bro really wrote a whole lotta nothing
>>88021225Based and effort pilled post, anon
>>88018527bro relax, you alr said it, any decent HoloEN fans would have known. these mf are not holoEN fan.
>>88008447who the fuck cares
does it really matter how hard she works if all she puts out is slop, work smart not hard and all that
>>88021733watch out. i was banned for making that joke at least 3 times.
>Making constant collabs to try to get back viewers>Her own noombers doesn't really change without raids>Beg for new model from CoverThe reality is that UMJ has to get their money back somehow since she fell off.
Mori's success still makes the catalogue seethe, is it because she came here? Crab bucket thing or something?
>>88023122>Mori's success>If she was successful she wouldn't be so miserable
>>88023181Anon, 2021...is 3 years ago.
>>88023324And you still seem to be stuck in 2021 when mori was actually moderately successful
>>88023044>>88012841
Is 3.0 even an advantage? I though they were just correcting her shit model.I don't get the seethe.
>literally the same canned responses >The same argumentsIt's the jealous 2view who unironically thinks Mori stole a slot from her.
>>88023407>UMJ has to get their money back>more money pumped into her to stay afloat than Twitchit makes sense
>>88023496Anon, Billboard and UMJ are not affiliated. You're an idiot if you believe that.
Reminder Mori's last album charted on Billboard and she just opened for some of Japan's biggest pop bands less then a week ago.https://www.billboard.com/music/chart-beat/foster-the-people-third-top-10-on-billboard-album-sales-chart-paradise-state-of-mind-1235764457/https://www.cocacola.jp/spn/cokestudiolive/
>>88023595>opened for some of Japan's biggest pop bands less then a week ago.I need to see this humiliation ritual
>>88010923Rewarding hard work isn't far artist.
>>88023651>humiliation rituali mean you can see your own replies, i think that's enough humiliation for one day
>>88013391Ame…
>>88015004Does she now? When did she mention him last? Indirectly even? The truth is both him and Mori have long since moved on.
>>88021225Sorry but this is too nuanced, in this thread we only accept generic>pink woman badand>pink woman goodreplies, please try again
cover has always offered favoritism and mori does kinda deserve it for keeping the image of Myth somewhat alive. I think Kiara deserves credit as well though and it's incredibly unfair that FWMC are getting a nendroid before Kiara's is even painted. I do wish they'd calm down a bit on giving Mori stuff and give stuff to other people in other gens. If there's an OP or ED it's always given to Mori, if there's a company that wants to do a song it's given to Mori, etc. It seems like myth in general get prioritized while streaming less than their kouhais (aside from Mori and Kiara that is)
>>88023496"UMJ is trying to recoup all of the lost money by giving Mori a bunch of opportunities and collabs" will always be one of the funniest Mori anti copes
>>88024036>Mori being a hard worker being a meme>too nuancedmore like too retarded to engage
>>88011039If the pattern follows, 2.0 is a touchup on the existing live2d and 3.0 is an all new model from the ground up that will be ultra refined but not compatible with existing outfits and options.
If her 3.0 is of a fat calliope, it would be cool, no?
>>88024407To be fair, until Justice, as HololiveEN singers we had Mori and who else?
>>88024909
>>88024909In order of debut: Kiara, IRyS, Nerissalooks like fanbase resembles oshi in both retardation and knowledge of hololive kek
The real question is where was Mori when Gura's projects got shot down? This is likely the reason why Gura doesn't Collab with her anymore.
>>88008447Mori seggs t b h.
>>88025368>>88024909Yeah, this is a samefag.
>>88019985You just say that because it doesn't agree with your narrative
I pity the streamlets and newfags who don't know any better wandering into threads like this and taking anything being said at face value. The blind leading the blind and all
>>88025626retard Gura will always be queen. Views don't matter at all
>>88017084It isn't even her first
>>88025703>Why are people liking what I don't like!
>>88025489Occams razor says you or another fagbeat had an unfortunate retard moment and are/is trying to run damage control
>>88025703>I listened to that geto boys album for the first time last week aren't I so cool
>>88024407Mori talked about it extensively: getting a seasonal anime OP/ED without label involvement is nigh impossible
>>88025781This is correct. Without her, HoloEN would suffer hard like ID hard.
>>88025894>I know, I'll use more TV tropes vocab to impress my fellow anons.
>>88025973So if they want to make it holosingers must get a label, else it'll continue to go to Mori?
>>88026194Given that most of them aren't really trying... Kek.
>>88008447>debuted first>was the first Myth to get 2.0>is the first Myth to get 3.0Was this thread really necessaryHave Mori's schizos been chomping at the bit lately
>>88026307Did Phase have a yab?
>>88026340I don't give a fuck about Phase. I'm just wondering why you're all so fucking stupid
>>88026194pretty much, but Cover is specifically finding ways to work with that like the hllo-n sublabel with UM, which is a much less restrictive type of contract
>>88026372>I'll use Gura because I'm a fucking frontrunner.
>>88026420You're having a schizophrenic attack anon
>>88026402Why can't Cover start their own label?
>>88025781Easy to cope that away when she doesn't stream
>>88025368>Kiara>singer
>>88023595doesn't count grrr
>>88024407>>88025973>>88026194all correct, I think there should be complete agreement and arguably a demand that all Hololive talents regardless of previous performance or connections to the music industry should profit from UMG or another label.I hope Holo-n and Blue Journey will be part of a pathway that, in the future, will enable all Hololive talents to utilize UMG resources and connections to advertisers and brands instead of select exclusive contracts with a few members>>88026489the music Industry is very interconnected and relies a lot on personal relationships between artists agents and producers, apart from popularity and financial success you need a "way in"it is essentially the most nepotistic system behind politics
I don't get the Mori hate and I don't think I ever will. I think it's for the best. Her music is hit or miss and she does mention how hard "ya boys been working" quite often, and sure her gameplay is mediocre at best, and of course she's not the most memorable part of collabs but uhhhhhh
>>88027031None of these things warrant the sheer amount of schizophrenia or enmity this board has for her
>>88024407Cover has nothing to do with Mori's music opportunities. In fact, she's stated in the past that because of UMG, she isn't able to participate in as much company promotion as she'd like
>>88027190she wants even more promotion for her slop?I didn't even know that would possible, I suppose we don't live in the worst timeline
>>88027371Involvement with hololive events, fucking dipshitShe said that in reference to not being able to be a part of official releases of holofes songs, iirc
>>88024407Pardon me using your levelheaded post as a springboard but it does demonstrate an endemic lack of understanding people have about these things, usually leading to people saying a ton of retarded shit with complete confidence. Mori gets music stuff out the ass because she has a music label, which has nothing to do with Cover. Mori gets opportunities because she wants opportunities and works for them.
>>88027507 (me)That was also a couple years ago and she's been able to wrest a lot of creative control from UMG since then so who knows if it's still the case
anyone that thinks she doesn't deserve the upgrade is a seething faggots lmfao my fuckin sides omegakek
>>88027699this but unironically
>>88027528>leading to people saying a ton of retarded shit with complete confidence>Mori gets music stuff out the ass because she has a music labelyes>Mori gets opportunities because she wants opportunities and works for themnospringboard indeed
>>88027759oh, you're just a retard, nevermind
>>88018795>Karen-ish lifestylekek
>>88027759one can and should defend mori, anyone really, when people don't know any better or maliciously spew bullshit, but the same applies when people come around with le pink go getter narrativeBecause it completely ignores other ENs like IRyS or Kiara who also display a similar interest and work ethic, even according to Mori herself, random chance, being the right person at the right place in the right moment plays a MASSIVE role, for the UMG signing and arguably success in general, and that really isn't just her being humble.So just because OP is a retard doesn't mean we should have to partake in a circlejerk where Mori deserved everything good that ever happened to her because it was all due to her hard work, because life is more complicated than that
>>88027911>>88029105whoops
Close the failing EN branch, Mr. Tanigo
>>88021548Or maybe Gura wants to quit but can't due to the amount of fucking sponsorship contracts she signed the moment she became the hulk hogan of hololiveEn. Quitting jobs in Japan is not easy. Shit people that do quit their jobs have to go get a fucking a letter from somebody else in order to quit and without that letter your fucking work resume in Japan is fucked. She's a Japanese tourist ambassador have multiple sponsors in clothing line for kids books and even figurines. Idk for how long all of these contracts are valid for but if she didn't shill her merch it could only mean one thing she did not renew her contract as a hololive talent and is just waiting it out till is close to expiration date to announce graduation.
>>88029105I don't think the existence of other holos also working hard means Mori doesn't exceptionally work hard. Kiara knows when to stop and rest (which is a good thing) and Bae buckles when she tries to do everything at once at Mori.Yes, Mori is lucky, but luck is nothing if you don't take advantage of it and push the envelope further. You cannot just attribute everything to it and downplay Mori's qualities as "she's just lucky and everyone else works hard too".And that 9 hours of procrastinating is just streaming - which others view as a job.
>>88032342Poor Gura D:
>>88013451>no Gura = won't watch your shitI want to call bullshit on this but the fact the EN box doubles on nights she's on is very telling.
>>88013168I feel bad for the guy who wasted all that time and effort on a rig that's never being used
>>88032374I can see your point, and just to be clear, Mori is certainly a hard worker I don't doubt that, just "exeptional" is a pretty strong word.But I understand what you mean, especially since for example in the wake of OWTH haters really maliciously focused on the luck thing, Just, the way her being a hard worker is a part of her personal brand, being repeated uncritically, almost without thinking about it, If she stopped being a hard worker like she certainly is now, I'm not sure if people would stop saying that about her.I guess depending on our biases we will always believe one of these two factors, chance and hard work, will play a smaller or larger role in her undoubted success, compared to others, and the truth is probably somewhere in between with our opinions on opposing sides, but I'm happy we can probably reach an agreement about that
>>88029105except that's still a retarded navel gazingMori getting into Holo was a lucky break, but the direction her career took and her identity as a hard worker have little randomness about themwe're talking about someone who shows the strength of their music connections and dedication by coming with an EP day 1, who released a new piece of music every month while streaming, working as a teacher and doing animator work on the side, who signed up for pretty much every music project people were interested in despite being super new in the companyand it's not like Mori was carried to her subcount by a singular burst of virality, for a long time she was in lock step with Ame, but ultimately shot ahead due to both her ability to network and put herself in the spotlight, but also the ever intensifying grind, both as streamer and artist
>>88018229outfitschizo has been claiming for years that ina, ame, gura, fauna, mumei, kronii have been protesting against their outfits being too sexy and that's why they're not streaming.
>>88023392I'm actually stuck in 2022 when she was yabbing every other week. Those were good times.
>>88008447We love Mori now
>>88035933>outfitschizo has been claiming for years that ina, ame, gura, fauna, mumei, kronii have been protesting against their outfitsThe only EN talents who clearly want a 2.0 model redesign are Ina and Kronii. They did get stuck with some of the worst designs in Hololive. A priestess with a skimpy outfit and high heeled geisha shoes is a bad design for Ina. A sexy gacha waifu with huge jiggling boobs is a bad design for Kronii. Both are embarrassed since they didn't want to be lewd vtubers. Ina was openly telling viewers she was thinking of graduation in late 2022. Don't you think it rather convenient that management "forgot" to renew the work visa for Ina? That it delayed her 3D live but was conveniently timed so that it didn't cause affect their paywall concerts.
>>88025973>>88026893>>88027190>>88027528Okay so I took a nap and wasn't expecting all the response to this. While it's nice to know that it's not just cover artificially promoting Mori, why has cover not worked harder to get people like IRyS or Nerissa or even Kiara any sort of deals with music labels? Like IRyS was literally hired to do music stuff and all we get from her are soulless jpop songs she's even admitted to not liking that much. Nerissa is a top tier singer and there's nothing going on with her, and even Kiara has songs with several million views on them. Now we have yet another top notch singer with ERB who will sit on the sidelines due to no sort of record deal.
>>88008447myth is just better
>>88042163>we have yet another top notch singer with ERByou almost had me with this post, you deserve the (you)
>>88042163>While it's nice to know that it's not just cover artificially promoting Mori, why has cover not worked harder to get people like IRyS or Nerissa or even Kiara any sort of deals with music labels?Cause the truth of the matter is none of them are as passionate about music/desire the huge workload that comes with getting signedFor example in a year when Mori had already released an album pre-signee in March, UMG than had her release an EP in July and then an album in December, most musicians in Holo just do not care to grind that hard
>>88043377NTA but she's the only one I could see actually getting a Mori-esque record deal. She's serious about singing and making that her whole brand.
>>88042163the truth is that Cover triedIRyS debuted in the middle of still ongoing Mythmania, with Covid buff, was the sole focus of her gen, had top tier singing skills, got to start out with an EP like Mori... and just didn't grasp people in the same way Mori did
>>88045166iirc she said that it was more of a management fuckup that project hope died. She was really annoyed when she mentioned it that once time. Probably Omega's fault, like everything else from that time.
>>88045220the fact that Project Hope died after a while due to mismanagement doesn't impact the fact that on debut there was an insane buildup of hype to it, under unreplicable circumstances and it just didn't result in comparable music success
>>88045638It's really sad. Her EP was amazing. I still listen to Here Comes Hope regularly.
>>88045166mori didn't grasp shit, she was at the right place at the right time
>>88045735you're really trying hard to ignore the fact that IRyS had similarly amazing circumstances and it didn't measure upand for a better comparison, neither really did Gura - while her first song did insane numbers, her other originals aren't really breaking any records and her numbers on music streaming services are half of Mori'sif just mere presence or circumstances were enough, we'd be seeing different things
>>88024766This is completely wrong. 3.0 is just a bunch of generic face toggles. 2.0 is where the re-rig their 2D models. You can literally open any recent 3.0 reveal stream and prove it easily.
>>88046002Gura didn't care to sell her soul to UMJ, neither did IRyS
>>88023452It's mostly just layered effects on their faces and alternate pupils and what not. You get the big rig overhaul on 2.0
>>88046764they didn't have similar popoff on music streaming services even way before thatMori only signed up with UM in 2022, but she was already one of the company's most listened to musicians by then
>>88024883She hasn't been fat in a long while now anon.
>>88046764>Gura didn't care to...[Do anything]...neither did IRySFIFY
>>88008584who to talk to get paid to spread lies on the internet?
>>88046993why make easily disprovable lies, didn't her knee give out under the sheer pressure of her weight recently
>>88048093anon, obesity isn't the only reason for a knee to give out.
>>88048093>didn't her knee give out under the sheer pressure of her weight recentlyNo retard, she hurt it while doing squats at the gym like 2 years ago lol
>anon find put people who work hard receive bonuses and sometimes preferential treatment for their reliability.Ever heard of what a fucking job is?
>>88046582The Live2D 3.0 update is only done for their default outfit which is the reason that a lot of JP talents barely use it after the initial reveal.
>>88024407Mori is the last one standing with Gura and Ame gone, Ina about to walk and Kiara being a permanent brand risk. It's not favoritism, it's just marketing
>>88048883>Mori is the last one standing>Ina about to walkdo you only watch mori are you just retarded
>>88048987>Asking if people watch streams in a bait thread
Good old holo bait thread devolving into a holo vs holo in under 20 replies.
>>88049180which holo vs which holo
>>88048093You're free to check it yourself.
>>88008447her model or live 2d isn't changing. This is literally Mori 3.0. Cover has been trying to make a version of mori that isn't boring since the release of Mori 2.0
>>88049970cover is way behind then, deadbeats are on the 11.0 cope
>>88048987Ina is out. Accept it. She will pull a Vesper
>>88050051>>88049970sorry that your oshi doesn't stream, but don't make it everyone's problem
>>88050164if your oshis streams were better more people would watch them
>>88050164>my oshi can shit out more slop than yourscongrats
>>88040349>Ina was openly telling viewers she was thinking of graduation in late 2022.revisionist-chama, she said it was either take a few months off for her health or graduate, so she took the months off.
>>88050611Mori is easily the most viewed by a country mile >>88019922>>88050724>Uhh actually those streams were LE BAD anyways!What a sour grapes post kek
>>88050611>>88050724damn, seems I struck a nerve
>>88050999the music view count cope again?
>>88050893So she did consider graduating in the past for medical reasons? And you don't think she'd graduate because of getting fucked over?
>>88051118>The "It's all music" cope againYou realize she has some of the best VoD viewership right? That 13 million isn't coming exclusively from music lol
>>88050893Ina had the longest radio silent break in Myth and there was far more going on in 2022 than health breaks. After Ina returned from her break management wouldn't even make a single tweet for her April Fools collab, her outfit merch was delayed over a month, and now her 3D live has been indefinitely delayed because of an expired work visa. I don't think anyone is thinking of leaving but Ame going indie does show that it's hard to know what they might do since their complaints are mostly hidden because of the Hololive NDA.
>>88011544I dont watch like any of these people stream but my oh my is Mori sexy
>>88008447Yagoo did name her as the leader of EN. It is what it is. If they don't like it, they'll always have the option to leave.
Tuned into the stream for a while. Either the new rigging is shit or Mori is streaming with a single candle for lighting off because it looks awful.>>88048665Sounds like a shit system.
This is my second favorite song
>>88012914>Watch streamsWatch Gura streams? How?
>>88042163You’re mistaking a good singer for a musician. Mori is not the best singer, but she produces so much of her own stuff and writes her own lyrics while being able to reach out to producers that she can work with. A singer is only as good as the song given to them, but a person who produces music can always find a job.
>>88008447The daisenpai and ambassador of EN deserves only the best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YZZ0tRvHTUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0APrP8LdPchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JugL6mb05xUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29UwCwTyOqchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OCfw4OleQI
>>88064036wait