>leave Hololive for no reason>become indies afterwardWhat the fuck are these guys problem?
You don't have to do a bunch of gay paperwork and other corporate bullshit as an indie. You also don't get told no if you want to try something that isn't playing Minecraft for 4 hours a day.
who cares hololive is a job, they didn't want to work at holo anymore and instead wanted to do their own thing it's not that big of a deal.
I wish them well, but I shall not be watching.
>>88142754Leave them alone, you obsessed asshole
>>88142754Dooby is cool.
who the hell is on the right?
>>88143102Onion
>>88142754So they can take all of the revenue
>>88143136What's her new name?
>>88143882https://x.com/rinchan_nanoda/status/1849376345496953276
>>88142754>Wanted to overcome content creator/writers block she's been struggling with for a couple of years, try get some motivation back>Just didn't want to have a job with obligations and deadlines anymore
They made lot of money and now can do whatever they want without corporate obligations seems like a good strategy
>>88142754Makes you question what was the reason that drove them to go indie.
She didn’t want to not stream as a holo so she quit to fulfill her dream of not streaming as an indie
>>88142754>not having to deal with corpo bs>not having to deal with restrictions associated with corpo bs>not having to deal with forced collabs and projects associated with corpo bssounds logically the best choice actually. Less stress and more time to stream and just chill, perfect.
>>88144543Do you realize that you repeated the same point three times?
>>88143983How do people know it's her?
>>88144607to EMPHASIZE it. Do you want me to add a 4th one?
>>88144642Her former niconico account I think
>>88144642fuck if I know. But people seem VERY sure of it, to the point that a literal who twitter account is getting several tens of thousands of new followers a day, with the YouTube growing at a similar pace.
>>88143824If it was a small indie company going corp, sure I'd agree. When you get big enough though, even something like a 60% cut taken out from your revenue is worth it because the minutia is a time killer. However, with how Hololive has been recently, it seems like some of the girls would prefer to take the pay cut and the corp support as long as they get more freedom.
>>88144750>as they get more freedomidk man, with all the new changes to COVER's regulations it seemed the opposite is happening
>>88144642>pink and light blue, twintails and the same eyes.I dunno man, check her other tweets.
im gonna enjoy then when they start to crawl back to begging for money that they once had
>>88144778I mean more freedom by leaving Hololive, along with the pay cut that involves as well as corp support they lose.
>>88142754Anyone would want to be free from a sinking black company
Leech behavior i will NOT be watching
>>88144906pic related
>>88144642Old video on YouTube > But it's gone
>>88142754Reminder that the first thing they did was update their BliBli accounts
>>88142754>leave Hololivecorrection only one of these 2 left Hololive, the other was literally in a branch project a few hours earlier complete with merch.
>>88142754She wanted to do male colabs but cover didn't allow her to taint aqua's "idol image"
>>88144642>not knowing what her cat looks likeFucking EOP newfag clipniggers.
>>88142754They're joining vshojo
>>88142840fuck! she was not allowed to play minecraft? i was waiting for her to revive akukin kensentsu and the resistance.
>>88143824that's retarded as fuck though, you're going to make 10 times less than you were making in a corp anyway
>>88146285big if true
>>88146667anon, the Hololive Resistance.. Sora....
>>88142754Nanja? IS THAT YOU, NANJAMO? IONO REAL!
https://x.com/rinchan_nanoda/status/1849737672341799201Debut on 27th
>>88145207She's still not going to stream anymore and is just used to market her merch
>>88142754They are just escaping bad management
>>88142754>no reasondumb low IQ mouth breather made this thread
>>88142754Cover treats the girls like shit and will go out of its way to erase every trace of them like they did with mel and ban the girls from mentioning them. Of course people would want to leave that garbage company. Plus literally every jp member has said at some point they wanted to quit, fucking Raiden worked there for 2 months and already wanted out, covers gotta be some shit to work for compared to these other dogshit vtuber companies when so many people keep mentioning wanting to quit.
>>88152733Of course women dislike being forced into a structure where they have to work hard and follow rules. The payoff for that is lots of money.
>>88152733Still no doubt better to work in than Nijisanji
>>88153058Do you think Cover pays Anycolor to act even more retarded and make them look better?
>>88152733Raden wanted to quit cause she isn't an idol and felt out of place.Also they are just spoiled and entitled brats. Go make them work a normal job for a month, see what they think then.
>>88144642>name from nnd days>tweet of her cat>another tweet about what a great summer it was>follows official SAO account as well as her favorite seiyuu>new persona's last name is the same as Asuna'sI don't know anon, we might be lacking evidence there
will mods do their jobs? is it allowed to post and disscuss PLs and RMs?
So all those onion rrats went down the drain, it was really because of Cover huh
>>88154105> onion rrats yeah she's a grifter and two-faced turbowhore
>>88154105It's a little early to say. I'm curious what the new content from both will be like. It may clarify why they left.
>>88154261Random apex and karaoke without a schedule here and there
>>88145329this is the real reasonshe has 4+ years of apex envy to catch up to
>>88154261fansly
>>88145329cover begs them to collab with males
>>88154377Since when does Hololive have a problem with some whoring on the side?
>>88154342that was the content she had to put out because no perms and a big NO from management for other projects
>>88142754They both had a reason: laziness
>>88154241Wow. So this is how Holofags treat their graduated livers.
You were supposed to retire forever and never come back. You were supposed to be an IDOL!!!!!! NOOOOOO!
>>88143824Aqua and Ame will lose money by leaving Hololive so it likely is more related to disputes with management that could never get settled. Cover does a lot of sleazy things they simply keep most of their vtuber complaints hidden with an NDA. That helps protect their reputation but also means that a lot of issues fester behind the scenes for years.
>>88145207Only thing I saw her corpse being paraded by Cover.
Funny how the only people claiming that they have to stay gone forever are seething indietards.
>>88154241>holodrones already seething and quickly turning on her the SECOND she announces her return
>>88155293>>88154578>>88154241samefag tactics are so gay bro
>>88155432says the gay one
>>88154261According to the latest trailer, she is a Vtuber who wants to be an idol.
We need to free women from Cover and abolish vtuber business for justice.
>>88152733Everyone hates where they work, its nothing new
>>88142754both were people Gura likedit's a coordinated attack to take her down with them
>>88142754>What the fuck are these guys problem?nothing
She's about to get a ridiculous amount of Simp Money, and she's only going to be concerned about getting taxed.
>>88147957Just like Gura.../vt/ sure knows how to pick them
>>88143882Imagine if senzawa came back
>>88157654>her wanting to do extra work, for less pay than she gets doing nothingLMAO
>>88154261my bet is just the free card for gaming event. FPS games a menhera's weakness
>>88142754>1 in 4 idols (26.9% specifically) is sexually abused>12 hour workdays 6 days a week>constantly interrupted sleep for pointless 3-hour meetings in the middle of the night>forced to pay out of their own pocket for nonreimbursed travel expenses/dance lessons/equipment/recording sessions>recieve no cut of merch and only 35% of superchats>ridiculous corporate censorship which stifles any and all creative license>Not even allowed to interact with their own fans honestly (see Mori being forced to censor her video where she asked not to be shipped with Stars)>Regularly forced to perform when sick (Mori and Mumei both have permanent lung damage because of this)And the only thing they give back for all this is being embedded in the algorithm.Cover are snake oil salesmen, plain and simple.
>>88157654 (me)meant for>>88144642
It takes time to have someone create a new model for someone. What's the average time for that these days? A bored person could go back in time from there and approximate what happened and why it made Aqua and Ame quit.
>>88153159> Do you think Cover pays Anycolor to act even more retarded and make them look better?cover doesn't pay them even for this
>>88154433> some whoring on the side?it will be on main
>>leave Hololive for no reason>>become indies afterwardThis literally only applies to Magni though.No one else who has left has showed disinterest in being a vtuber.Sana is the only Holo who left who showed disinterest, and is still not a vtuber anymore.Magni though, showed blatant disinterest, even went back to doing IRL shit for almost a year, and then he randomly becomes a vtuber again after complaining about how restrictive it is.
>>88159918Wasn't it more that he never had to leave but ended up choosing to follow Vesper for no good reason anyways and then lost his shit when the fame didn't follow him post-graduation?
>>88160198No he wanted to leave then Vesper followed him for no good reason.Magni is a tard who can't commit to anything hey like AmeVesper is a genuine and unironic autistic sperg who also makes huge decisions on impulse.I don't want to say they've "fallen off", but they would've been better off not leaving.But again Magni OP only applies to Magni. He left cause he hated being a vtuber and now he's a vtuber again because no one cares about his IRL shit unless he's doing shit with the big homo
>>88157882>recieve no cut of merch and only 35% of superchatsWhere the fuck do you hear this? There's no way they don't receive no cut of merch
>MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEYDo SEAfags really think like this?
>>88144981oh? RIP, she fit the model quite nicely. shame it had to a niji IP.
>>88142754>What the fuck are these guys problem?Cover
>>88142754you are
>>88153388>Also they are just spoiled and entitled brats.this
>>88165658>you areIn Aquas case her audience will follow her to her new persona because her new model is practically identicalSame as what happened with Mike the moment she got a new model that looks like RushiaPeople care more about the model than the person
>>88142754Hololive is doing something wrong, who knows what the fuck but they are fucking up.
>>88145207For me, this affiliate thing means nothing but a way to not discard tons of already planned merch and collaborations. We have yet to see it mean anything else.
>>88154261>new contentDid either of them say they wanted to do something new or different?
>>88157654She has no incentive to do that with current rewards structures.
>>88142754>no reasonthat's where you're wrong
>leave Nijisanji for no reason>become indies afterwardWhat the fuck are these guys problem?
>>88142754Maybe they got sick of the tribalfags.
>>88168020you sure pay attention the same way cover pays their artists kek
They both put in a lot of work, clearly didn't want to stay due to not wanting to put up with management, management gave them their flowers, and they still need to earn money.What's the big deal?
>>88146667That's the opposite of what his post says. She hated playing Minecraft.
>>88158106The thing is they literally committed to leaving years ago, if nothing could change their views in that time then it's not some specific thing that made them quit but their general views. Until somebody significant from Hololive quits or is terminated, it's all pretty meaningless. It's always the people who were secluded and not getting with the program to begin with.
>>88169625Aqua was not secluded at all. She was one of the most well connected hololive members despite the memes.
>>88169745Like five years ago. Get with the times old man. All the first interactions she had with people in ages (or at all) for these final months were precisely because she was graduating. She never would have done any of that otherwise.
>>88169906What's the point of lying? We both know you only watch EN.
>>88167267The affiliate thing is Cover preparing for when Gura eventually can't be pressured into continuing to stay.
>>88169625There's no proof they committed to leaving years ago. The farthest you can go back is a bit before they began work on things like their 2d and 3d models.
>>88146667She doesn't have to play minecraft with her fake friends anymore.
>>88142754-No singing -No dancing -No additional work behind the scenes -No voice pack/line recording -No 3D concert practice (Which probably takes months of choreography and practice to pull off) -No travelling to events -No answering to managers/producers -No deadlines to fulfil -No drama with other genmates Probably a lot more things that I haven’t listed. All they have to do is turn the PC on and play a stupid video game. That’s it.
>>88142754Also tranny colors. Really?
>>88173749>pastel colours>troooooooonsMindbroken
>>88173591>-No singing >-No dancing >-No additional work behind the scenesAqua never had issues with the first two and any vtuber worth shit does a bunch of content production related work behind the scenes.
Why are Hololive antis so hostile towards anyone who leaves? They wait a week or two after the graduation, once all the support and well-wishes from the fans have quieted down, then all of a sudden comes down a torrent of hate and accusations of betrayal. You hate them when they're in Hololive and you hate them even more when they're out. What gives?
>>88173591>All they have to do is turn the PC on and play a stupid video game. That’s it.Good, that's all I watch them for.
>>88157882I thought merch earns the most for talents, which was why they shilled it so much
>>88173591>All they have to do is turn the PC on and play a stupid video game. That’s it.That makes for a really shitty stream
>>88173749Obsessed
>>88174793Anon wait until you realize the dooby/yuki antis are hololive fans
>>88145207How do you explain to yourself she didn't even bother to join for less then a hour? GG's stream was like 25 minutes long. Ame didn't have to stream, she could've just run 4 courses on her own, hop in a discord call for like 5 minutes, share her lap times and laugh about it with her friends. Unless you know she doesn't consider it fun.
>>88144981nooooo this thread is about HOLOLIVE
Why are Nijisanji antis so hostile towards anyone who leaves? They wait a week or two after the graduation, once all the support and well-wishes from the fans have quieted down, then all of a sudden comes down a torrent of hate and accusations of betrayal. You hate them when they're in Nijisanji and you hate them even more when they're out. What gives?
>>88176143Every single sperg in Aqua threads has been an EN indie tranny that's out to stick it to le ebil holokeks
>>88142754>Gets tired of the Hololive EN community>Gets tired of the Hololive JP communityIt makes sense.
>>88160198he gets lots of views on his youtube stuff but i guess he prefers streaming over videos but ppl just dont care enough to watch him live, so he went back to try and milk fangirls as a vtuber, which is not working out great for him at the moment, he expected randon to be like a duo with him but randon just went on break and is overall not that interested in making this a full time thing. also, choosing youtube as an indie vtuber was dumb af.
>>88142754Perms
