The Idol is BACK!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd8-rKhV_gg
who?
>>88156993yawn
>>88156993>>88157089Is this R*shia?
>>88156993kek
>>88156993Literally who? I am sorry anon, I only care about hololive vtuber.
>>88156993I thought she didn't like having big tits.
>>88159188I have a folder full of fan art retweeted or liked by her that says otherwise.
>>88159103this is not Hololive Global anon, go back.
>>88156993RABYU SAKUNA!please drool on me again like you used to back in Hololive
>>88157305Again?
>>88156993lol is this Alter Aqua? She couldn't let go of the aesthetic
>>88160056anon, she IS that aesthetic. same reason why chumbuds shit on anyone that vaguely resembles Gura's looks, the blue hoodie loli aesthetic IS Gura's aesthetic.
>>88160136Who is Gura? Does she stream?
>>88160136The ones who really got shit on were quite egregious.There are tons of vtubers who are inspired by Gura's design but don't just copy the design 1 to 1.There's the multi lingual dinosaur girl whose name I can't recall. And that small corpo frog girl, whose name I also can't recall, to give a couple examples.
>>88156993Nice
>>88156993how many fucking threads do we need about this?
whats better than 1 retard, two of them. I look forward to arts of her and her doing cooperative work in the near future.
>>88156993buy an ad nobody cares about your indie 2view
>>88156993Onion...
>>88166294>2viewanon... I don't think she's gonna be a 2view.in august, this channel had 21k subs. Literally last week, she had 61k subs.She now has 272k subs and her pv has over 870k views.This is some obscene growth. She might be a 5view tbdesu
>>88156993LFG
>>88156993>gamer maid to cat maidlol kinda based
I always feel weird about reincarnations, if they're gonna be gone for years I understand but doing it so fast after crying and sobbing and milking out people's money is weird
>>88166598She is going to collab with e-sport players, I really doubt it. She will be an important indie in the vtubing scene.
imagine if miguel cat spergs on her for having same hair colour and being a cat girl haha
>>88166856It's not weird at all, what's weird are all the "fans" who just follow along. Like the fact that all fans of this character have Aqua's symbol in their profile name. Or are Hololive accounts. Stupid shit like that. If these girls are trying to get away from anything, it's definitely these "fans". They want their own little ecosystem and when you break containment immediatley to "support" them, it just emphasises they have only demoted themselves and will never get new recognition.
>>88166854She had already pretty much rebranded as a cat girl, every costume since the sailor one had cat ear and tails toggle, hell in hindsight her last outfit feels like a blatant attempt to funnel her fans to her RM and ease the transition
>Joined Apr 9, 2022curious
>>88156993Even the same mama? And whole maid schtick too.It seems like the main reason is that she just didn't want to bother with permissions corpo autism anymore.
>>88170153This. She definitely hated the hololive fanbase like any sane vtuber would.
>>88171268you're not fooling anyone dramanigger
>>88170834She just renamed the account, you can literally see the original name.
>>88171351Why are you only replying to me and not the post I was replying to?
There's obviously animosity going on, no reason why someone would leave a company like this only to continue being a vtuber with literally the same designer and rigger lmao. Kson did it, Michael Cat, Rica probably will, Dooby might get Nabi, its just so blatant. Can let go of the company, their fans and coworkers, but cannot let go of the essence of who they were
>>88156993>*drools on you*
>>88156993Rabu rabu
that was fast
>>88156993would be funny if it's not actually aqua and just some random girl with a really good idea on how to get a spotlight on her.
>>88171428Rica is debuting her new L2D on Halloween.
>>88171735Retard
Is it finally time to create Outer Heaven for all the former Holos who have redebuted?
>>88171428>their fans and coworkers,they can't let go of their fans, that's part of why they keep the look> but cannot let go of the essence of who they wereThis is true and is the real essence of vtubing. Fans will not accept someone new behind the reins of a model. The person behind the model IS their model, and I'm sure they feel the same way
>>88156993I swear she used to have an even older account.https://www.youtube.com/@user-jy5ts8oy3fI wonder why she's not going back to that one?
>Dooby on 25th>Sakuna on 27th>Rica on 31stTHEY ARE
>>88171806But it still begs the question of why leave at all then, if they're practically gonna be the same person looking the same and with the same fans. I think the sad reality is that these girls leaving just don't care about Hololive anymore and wanna be alone, they don't wanna be part of a big group with responsibilities and shit
>>88171806No one cares about "the essence" if they end up serving completely different content like we have seen with some others.
>>88171681>debut starts>hear slightly higher pitch mikeneko voicekino
>>88171870>Delu gets an infection and can't talkForever punished...
>>88171681Not possible unless that someone else also got access to her old accounts, they were repurposed that's how people caught on in the first place
>>88171952Why has Delu still not done anything with Kson
>>88171908sounds like you answered your question
>>88171908You answered it yourself. Corporate responsibilities and shit.
>>88171981She secretly part Chinese and hasn't forgiven Coco for what happened in 2020.
>7月もなかなか配信出来ずに寂しい思いをさせてしまってごめんね。最近の近況をすこしおはなしするよ!最近は船長とお仕事で北海道にいってきたよ!スパイスラブではアニサマの出演が決まったね!HoneyWorksさんのアルバムにゲストボーカルで参加させて頂いたり、自分の周年ライブに向けて絶賛準備中だし、他のホロメンや外部の記念配信にもでちゃうよ!!ホロライブサマーの準備も進んでるし、NEGIUとumiseaも本格的に活動してるし、レッドブルアンバサダーとしてもイベントやコラムを出したりいろんなタイアップがたくさん決まってすごくうれしい!あとは10月発売のゲーム「あくありうむ」だね!こんなに毎日忙しくしているのも、夢みたいなことがたくさん実現してるのも、全部みんなの応援があってこそだよ。こんな私を支えてくれて本当にありがとう。毎年言ってる気がするけど、今年の夏は異次元レベルで忙しかったな・・・・。もう一生分働いたから、できれば残りは一生ゲームして配信していたい・・・・。一生分外出たから余生は家でずっと引きこもっていたい・・・・・・。もう人と関わらず全ての外気をシャットアウトして部屋にこもりたい・・・・。今しかできない素敵な景色を見させていただいている一方で、自分のやりたいことが出来なくなっていくのが本当に辛くて、毎日焦りとか不安と葛藤してるけど、みんなもきっといろんな思いを持ってるよね。今進んでる道が間違っているとは思っていないけど、夏が終わったら、また違ったこともやっていきたいな。動画上げたり、生放送まったりしたり、お仕事も今よりはセーブして自分のペースでゆっくりと。歌はずっと歌ってたいな。需要ないとかへたくそとか言われても、聞いてくれる人がいる限り続けていたいな。新衣装とかもう随分出てなくて他の子に数追い抜かれちゃってるけど頑張って進めてるからもうちょっと待ってね。心配しないでね!メン限でね、街作るゲームやりながらまったりおしゃべりしたいな。これずっとやりたかったの。お仕事落ち着いたら絶対やるんだ~~!一緒に夏を乗り切って、また元気な姿で配信するから絶対見てね!!!!!!!!首をなが~~~~くして待っててね。お仕事の合間に書いてたのでちょっと文章が拙いかもしれないけど今伝えたかったから書いちゃいました!それじゃ!お仕事もどります!どろん!!!!Aqua's issues are pretty simple, girl just want to neet at home and stream while singing a little bit.
>>88171981Why is everyone required to suck up to kson?
>>88171908There you go. I don't think it's necessarily animosity, I think it's a mixture of different things. Hololive has a lot more behind the scenes responsibilities and whatnot. Once they've made their piles of money, it becomes harder to want to keep up with the responsibility instead of faffing about. Especially as the responsibility and requirements seem to keep increasing year over year. Combine that with the fact that a lot of these girls didn't exactly have corporate jobs or careers. Many of them had time killing jobs or jobs where they weren't exactly aiming to move up, if they had jobs at all. I think its harder to rise to those responsibilities without experience like that.
>>88156993the doobykiller.........AIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>88171981Speculation is dangerous in these parts. We know they have communicated and talked about it. But it's not like they were friends.Rica and Delu streaming together twice has been a huge surprise but a welcome one.
Is Rushia the Vince Russo of Vtubing? Everyone dislikes her and she is supposedly bad for the vtubing business but she just keeps show up again and again.
>>88172143She would have been fine with doing all the stuff hololive is known for if cover didn't make it so prohibitively difficult and tiring.I still have no idea if the the thing she went to Hokkaido for was ever even released.
>>88172266She's being held up by her zealous fans and because she fucks up a lot and goes menhera every time.In other words, she's a great entertainer.
Alright what are we calling this thread? There are enough retards who just want to talk about this and I know none of them can carry their own thread except for Doobie./out//holoout//exholo//after/ Any other?
>>88172266>she is supposedly bad for the vtubing businessShe doesn't really matter. She's mostly in her own corner and ventured out into the troll den of NND streamers just recently.
>>88172589Just like Vince Russo.
>>88172416True... also she is pretty hot and has a nice ass for an Asian.
>>88172266She's a hot mentally unstable female in her 30s, that hits so many boxes for lonely men
>>88172628I suppose the comparison fitting then.
Ok can someone tell me who is this? 1 mil pv? Never heard of them.
>>88172881Vince Russo basically rode on the rumor that he was responsible for the greatest wrestling era on for it to become obvious he was a product of the WWE and only worked under the cold hard oppression of a corporation keeping him from going full retarded like he did in WWE and TNA.Wrestling and Vtubing aren't very different in practice.
>>88171950Kek
>>88159103Go back to r eddit.
>>88156993GG intro BGM
>>88171908We know from her conversations she had with other holos when she told them about her graduation that her main gripe was that she can no longer do whatever she wants like back in 2019-2020 and everything requires perms and management approval
>>88171908They need to be part of a meeting EVERY SINGLE TIME Cover decides to use their character for an advertisement or a shitty piece of merch and doesn't involve any work from them personally. That is going to get tiring especially now that Cover ass ramped up the production of that shit by 100 times.
>>88160307>There's the multi lingual dinosaur girl whose name I can't recall. And that small corpo frog girl, whose name I also can't recall, to give a couple examples.Zumi Dokumi is no more, Eien demanded 10,000 dollars for the IP after they dissolved and she said no.
>We lost her retarded mouthYagoo you piece of shit
>>88173822>if they just use the character for merch and ads without asking the person behind the avatar they open themselves to drama for not taking them into consideration, talkng decisions unilaterally and blah blah blah>if they include them in the decision projects then it's le bad because they are taking away precious streaming time for office busyworkThere is just no winning
>>88157089>>88157312
>>88174241Not doing it so fucking often would be a win for everyone except Cover and shareholders because it's not like holos themselves get any fucking cuts out of those promos anyways.
>>88174383>it's not like holos themselves get any fucking cuts out of those promos anyways.This aint niji, sis
>>88174517I bet you believe that holos get 50% from everything despite Cover's revenue rising by 25% while the talent remuneration only went up by 9%.You're a massive fucking retard if you're still living in the dreamland where Cover is the good guy who never does anything wrong and always does right by the talents in every situation.
>>88174664kekson blurted out that she had a 50% merch cut at holo when she was fellating vshojo on how much better they are to her
>>88174974That was in 2021. She knows nothing about hololive in it's current state.
>>88175089you might have an argument that newer talents get a worse cut, but they can't decrease what the established talents already had.And those are the ones with issues
RABYU RABYUOH OH OH OH OH!I RABU YOUOH OH OH OH OH!!
>>88175269Not all merch is the same, dumbo. That 50% cut kekson complained about was her anniversary and birthday merch. There was almost no other merch being sold around that time.Fast forward to 2024 and hololivetv twitter account is announcing all kinds of trash merch every single day.You're going to have to explain how Cover's revenue is up by 25% without the talent remuneration going up by an equal amount if the talent are supposed to be getting as much as they always have.
>>88156993Not Hololive don't care.
>>88175416first of, where are you even pulling those numbers from?second, their income isn't just merch and newer talents could be getting less which is reasonable as they are starting from a higher plateau
>>88171908>But it still begs the question of why leave at all thenShe said this, people discussed it, you've even said it yourself, but you just don't want to believe it. What answer do you want?
>>88171908Hololive management is their own worst enemy since "we don't compromise" might work on a 2view indie vtuber but will fail horribly with a 5view vtuber. When they can walk away from Hololive and still be a 4view indie than it makes sense that some of them will do that. Aqua is a sign that if management doesn't back down on the sleazy coomerbait and GFE than more talents will start making the same decision.
>>88175675fuck off
>>88172143>Aqua's issues are pretty simple, girl just want to neet at home and stream while singing a little bit.wow, almost like the exact same thing she was doing up until cover couldn't fucking let her be.
>>88170834isn't that around the time she stopped streaming for good special events aside?
>>88175700The numbers are from their latest financial report https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/b97a0498/dfe5/4ec4/abb2/05f473f683ee/20240808142822051s.pdf>their income isn't just merchSo? The talents are supposed to be getting 50% from everything and all income for cover is produced by the talents.>newer talents could be getting lessWhich newer talents? Where do you want to draw the line? Are you sure you want to claim that Advent might be getting zero cuts from some merch?Personally, I actually agree but believe that only the dev_is branch is affected since they're not allowed to release their own anniversary merch and only have their group anniversary merchandise which obviously cannot give them all 50% per sale.Cover is releasing similar merch for all other branches so this dream of everyone always getting 50% when their character is part of it is just not true.
>>88174664The remuneration went up by 14% and the revenue from IP licensing only went up by 8%, you are just making shit up
>>88176015You're the one making shit up.(993-910)/910*100=9.12Numbers are from Q1 https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/b97a0498/dfe5/4ec4/abb2/05f473f683ee/20240808142822051s.pdf
>>88175997>Which newer talents? Where do you want to draw the line? Are you sure you want to claim that Advent might be getting zero cuts from some merch?Why would anyone get zero? I said less than the established 50%I also don't care about where the line is because we were talking about Aqua and Aqua has been there longer than Coco who mentioned said 50%
Sakuna my belovedPlease rescue shionI will wait 900 seconds before posting for you, which is kind of weird because it only happens on this board where the corpos have blatantly inserted their employees as jannysI guess they are terrified, and rightly so onyan got 1M views in less than half a day of announcement
>>88176288>we were talking about AquaWere we? Aqua didn't complain about money so none of this merch cut talk is about her.You just randomly started arguing about them after I said that all the meetings for bullshit promos are worthless because the holos don't really benefit from sitting through them.
>>88176261And the revenue from brand collabs and IP licensing only increased by 8.5%, so what the fuck is your point
>>88166598doobie seething rn
>>88176530Why do you keep quoting that specific number? Holos are supposed to get 50% cut from all merch and merch revenue went up by 40%.
>>88173457that sounds like cope she was never much of an innovator and they don't need permissions to play Apex not to mention she can say goodbye to her 3D lives, albums and sololives holy fuck if anything she was very privileged getting high-level sponsorships despite being mostly inactive, few holos were allowed or rather supported to do this sort of things.
>>88171870Who's Rica?
>>88176743Mel you stupid retard.
>>88176738>she can say goodbye to her sololivesShe was never going to get another one while she was in hololive because there's everyone else waiting in line before she can get another one.3D lives are not a problem at all and neither is recording an album.
>>88171698kinoill be there for that
>>88176694If 50% is the number it would be on revenue minus cost, not of straight revenue. Merch has a good profit margin, but 50% of revenue wouldn't leave Cover with much.
>>88176694>claim that holos don't make a single cent from promos and licensed merch citing total revenue increase vs talent remuneration increase>get told that the increase in revenue from promos and licensed merch doesn't even make up for the increase in talent remuneration>"b-but muh total merch sales"
>>88176694what even is your argument? You clamed that talents are forced into meetings about merch that they have nothing to do with (which you didn't back up in any way) and now you are suddenly talking about them getting screwed out of merch money because of some supposed magic number
>>88160283Just wait till the next overlap time
I blame towa for this
>>88177307How do you know that the trash merch spammed by Cover is listed as "brand collabs and IP licensing"? You're the one moving the goalposts here.>>88177313How did revenue go up by a higher percentage than talent remuneration? Explain it.
>>88176565No, I'm pretty sure she wanted a smaller audience.
>>88177438>How did revenue go up by a higher percentage than talent remuneration? Explain it.Don't they teach what revenue is in school anymore? revenue is not profit, merch is not woven out of yago's dreams, there are operating costs and material costs you need to deduct first
>>88157305This would be so fucking funny I wish it came true.
>>88177573Wait wait wait are you seriously saying "they only get 50% out of the PROFITS"?For years everyone has always argued that if something is sold for 100 dollars the talent will get 50 dollars from that sale every time.
>>88156993YEAR OF THE LIGGER BABY WE FUCKING WON
>>88177107cute!
>>88156993Walmart Mikeneko www
>>88177756>onlythat's still more money than you or me will ever make>For years everyone has always argued...you would need to be seriously retarded to believe that and I don't recall anyone ever claiming that
>>88178027>>that's still more money than you or me will ever makeCool deflection but ok.>I don't recall anyone ever claiming thatYeah you sure don't recall people calculating how much individual holos make from their merch sales based on the supposed 50% cut.The profit argument is absolutely retarded too because it doesn't matter to holos. Talent remuneration is one of the costs that cuts into the profits and profits are what the company itself is left with.You have yet to explain how revenue goes up and talent remuneration doesn't follow.
>>88177756>For years everyone has always argued that if something is sold for 100 dollars the talent will get 50 dollars from that sale every time.No one who actually knows what the fuck they are talking about claims that, whe have known since forever that the holos get a lower cut from Cover-produced merch vs talent-produced merch because the girls themselves have said it on-stream.You were making shit up and claiming that they don't get a cut from promos/collabs and "shitty merch" (without specifying collab merch of Cover store merch) without any evidence besides cherrypicked numbers out of context.And before you go again about muh 40% increase in merch revenue vs 9% increase in talent remuneration, we know that Cover has been spamming acrylic stands and plushies that the talents get a lower cut from because, they themselves have told us so.
>>88177582>>88157305>Aqua is still and remains MIA>Miguel's latest plot is to pretend to be her
>>88178363>Cool deflection but ok.I was putting you only into context since your claims are getting a bit ridiculous>You have yet to explain how revenue goes up and talent remuneration doesn't follow.I already did>>88177573
>>88178490>whe have known since forever that the holos get a lower cut from Cover-produced merch vs talent-produced merch because the girls themselves have said it on-stream.Yet in this thread there are some fervent 50% believers.>You were making shit up and claiming that they don't get a cut from promos/collabs and "shitty merch" (without specifying collab merch of Cover store merch) without any evidence besides cherrypicked numbers out of context.How much are they getting then? I get the feeling that any number other than 50% won't be acceptable to you. There's is literally no way they see even 1% from garbage like random keychains because the sale cannot be attributed to a specific talent.>we know that Cover has been spamming acrylic stands and plushies that the talents get a lower cut from because, they themselves have told us so.So what's the cut? I'm 100% in the right to say that all the meetings for all of that trash is a waste of time. Looks like you're really just offended that I mentioned that not all merch has the legendary good guy cover 50% cut.
>>88178718The cut doesn't come from the profits, it comes from the revenue. If revenue generated by talents goes up fo 100% and they're supposed to get a 50% cut they will also see a 100% increase.
>>88178815>I'm 100% in the right to say that all the meetings for all of that trash is a waste of time.nta but you are repeating that sentence without giving any proof and there isn't even a hint of a talent ever stating that
>>88178815>we don't know the exact cut therefore you can't prove it's not 0%, checkmate holobronies!Are you fucking 12?
>>88178978Ever stating what? That they have meetings for merch? Are you seriously disputing that?>>88178987I asked you what the cut is but you're hesitant to say anything. Would you be happier if I said 2% instead of 0%?
>>88178916>The cut doesn't come from the profitsSurely you have a source for that, right? I mean you speak with so much authority that you have must seen the hololive contract and it says that they get 50% of the total price and not 50% of the profits after material and operating costs, right? I mean, it's not like they get 50% of the profits from streaming after operating costs (Google's cut) and they get 50% of the total SC, right?
>>88179104>Ever stating what? That they have meetings for merch? Are you seriously disputing that?I'm disputing that they are a waist of time, you are the one claiming that they are forced to participate and don't make money from them
>>88179104>>88178815>makes claims without evidence>demands other to provide evidence that his claims are false
>>88179279>Surely you have a source for that, right?I do. The source is Cover's own financial report which lists talent remuneration as a fucking expense, you absolute moron.
>>88156993This thread should be pinned.
>>88179387I'm not asking for evidence, I'm asking you to give a number. That's literally it. Why can't you give a number?
>>88179401>cover is paying money to their talentsshocking
>>88156993Notqua
>>88179401The remuneration is just cited as a general expense and isn't itemized on each source of revenue so you can't extrapolate from it, not that it matters because other have already told you that the discrepancy in increase of total revenue/merch revenue vs talent remuneration can easily be explained from the increase in non birthday/anniversary merch that the girls get a lower cut from, but you refuse to acknowledge it and keep going in circles demanding hard numbers and evidence when you yourself haven't provided any.
Please shit on Hololive.>Please shit on Hololive.Please shit on Hololive.>Please shit on Hololive.Please shit on Hololive.>Please shit on Hololive.
>>88179852>can easily be explained from the increase in non birthday/anniversary merch that the girls get a lower cut fromThis is literally what I have been saying the whole time. Now what's that lower cut? You're unhappy with any answer that's not 50% because kekson said 50% once in 2021 and you're absolutely SEETHING because I dared to imply that it might be as low as 0% in some cases.You Coverfans are honestly fucking unhinged.
>>88179914isn't this exactly what happened with kson?dramafags left when they realized she wouldn't give shit to them
>>88160307Even chuubas who debuted before Gura got shit on as Gura clones anon.
>>88180011>This is literally what I have been saying the whole timeNo, you started the discussion by saying that they don't get a cut from promos and non-birthday merch without providing any evidence>it might be as low as 0% in some casesStill waiting for that evidence
>>88181258>No, you started the discussion by saying that they don't get a cut from promos and non-birthday merchWhy can't you give a lower cut than 50%? The source of your seething is quite obvious. It's because I dared to imply that the great Cover-sama is not giving the talents a cut from all merch.Please explain how talents can get cuts from random keychains.
>>88179914This would be impressively stupid to do given that she'd probably be sued. Also, there's a pretty big chance she at least has the option to return to hololive at some point if she wanted. Fully closing that door would be retarded.
>>88181404This is Aqua we're talking about though.
>>88181346>Please explain how talents can get cuts from random keychains.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(law)
>>88181542The burder of proof is on you.
>>88181346>Please explain how talents can get cuts from random keychainsWhy wouldn't them? Do you have access to their contracts stating they only get cuts from birhday merch?
>>88156993She went all out on trying to be Asuna as much as she could.>Same last name>braids>bangsShe will become Asuna
>>88181711Why would they? A Suisei fan goes to buy a random keychain and receives a Gura keychain. Does Gura get the cut? An individual talent realistically cannot get a cut from each individual sale in that case because they're not even sold in a way where individual sales can be gauged.
>>88181915What are you even smoking? Every single non-anniversary/birthday keychain currently on sale in the hololive store lets you choose which one you are buying, the only places you get random merch is from collabs where the revenue for Cover comes from the licensing fee and not from the sales.
>>88182336Breaking Dimensions had random merch. How do the talents get their cuts?
>>88156993Ffs rushia just settle down already
>>88181340>kson did something wrong>What thing?>This thing I just pulled out of my ass.The Antis don't even try anymore.
No one cares that much about merch and %. This is just one schizo talking to herself. And you can't convince me that I'm not right.
>>88156993Isnt that a hololive song???
>>88183067No?
>>88182441>Breaking Dimensions had random merchWhy do you lie
>>88183151where is the bgm from i know ive heard it
>>88183290theyd do anything so long as it's means being a cover anti
>>88183290You're the one lying.
>>88156993gigi’s opening bgm???
>inb4 t-t-that's not a keychain!
>>88156993>>88157312disgustingly blatant, why'd she lie holobros?
>>88184366its ok idc about jp
>>88167764esport still a thing?
I thought she fucking died, her Wiki says she did
Imagine if she is able to persuade Pekora and Suisei to also leave Cover and become indie.It would be holover.
>>88185176i dont know why but this made me chortle like a retardeverything about this is perfect>died eating pufferfish>random guy on twitter said she did>asks googles fucking AI if she's actually deadThis is PRIME schizocore
>>88184897>esport still a thing?it's assumed Rushia bounded with her jpop twink boyfriend through their love of Apex, why wouldn't Aqua be the same?
>>88185473It's funny because Suisei was one of the first she told about her graduation and she essentially told her it was retarded.
>>88167764You are dumb. If she collabs with the same scene as VSPO she will always stay as a power house. JP have their approved guys think a whole bunch of Sykkunos that get a pass. Vtubers are part of flesh interviews in JP, EN mentality is embarrisngly immature in /vt/
>>88156993The design and color scheme being so blatantly similar while also going for the cat ears at the same time is so fucking funny. It has so many generic anime/vtuber character design traits, like she just mixed them all up together.>Maid>Cat ears>Ribbons>Almost entirely pink, but with light blue mixed in>Has useless hairclips that do nothing>Retarded fucking ahoge includedOnly thing she's fucking missing is the heterochromia and she'd be set.
>>88188529Sometimes thats what these jackasses love
