The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that indie vtubing is one big family.
>>88225943Raora dropped her indie ‘family’ the second she got in Hololive. Shiori tried to include her friends but most have been dropped.
>>88225943>big indie "vtubing" family>draw lolis once>wait, friends..? where did everyone go?
>>88225943Western twitch indies will pump and dump her as soon as possible. Then forget she exists once she's a 3 view. Same shit happened to kson.
>>88226159Skill issue. Plenty of indies that are ok with it. And some corpos too like Lumi
>>88226067>>88226159Ikr, that's why it's funny when liggers celebrate dooby's debut.She's still affiliated with cover for Christ's sake.
>>88226067Raora still talks to Panko
I was only going to watch solo streams anyways. I feel bad for some ex corpos like doki/mint/matara and I wish them well but just don't care for them at all.
>>88226270Panko isnt indie
>>88226181Streaming on twitch is really a debuff.Especially if you want to lure holofans.
>>88226349They both knew each other from when they were indies, kind of counts
>>88225943The bonds formed there are certainly more genuine because you don't have to pretend to like everybody just because you're all under the one blue dorito.
>>88226415>genuine
>>88226352Why would you want to do that, though
>>88226181>holoturd wishing for the best for graduates challenge: impossibleStop being so insecure.
>>88225943>indie vtubing is one big familyNo one has ever said that
>>88226518>>88226591I hope you realize Raora and Fauna are just shit people.
>>88226563I've hated this whore for 2 years and wanted her gone. Hopefully the other whores follow her.
>>88225943>family
>>88225943>>88226067>>88226159>wait for an idol to be successful others have to suffer?oh no, they're learning
>>88226540>Why would you want to have more viewers?
>>88226563what? its not our fault people don't watch kson.
>>88226683Your ESLism is certainly your fault. It's not about Kson, dimwit. It's about every holofag desperately hoping all graduates end up like her, because otherwise the reputation of the blue dorito is harmed.
>>88226340That's fine. Focus on your oshi now that she's back. In the end, they all have different appeals and that's a good thing.
>>88226632Sure indie-chan, sure.You should keep auditioning for hololive.If you make it, you'll realize the truth.
>>88226795Another big change is happening in November, and not to your benefit, holochud.
>>88226159The good indies either don't mind loli or like it.
>>88226415>Genuine
>>88226897>adding nazuna
>>88226948I mean we all know how Miguel Gato ended up, but we all know she was roped into vshitshow only to try to lure other holos and nijis to quit and join them
>>88226067>He doesn't know Dya and Raora still talk regularly>He doesn't know that Cecilia and the Barbies still talk regularly
>>88226897Kson isn't an indie. And this is the perfect example of fake corpo relationships, where Kson was saying she would still collab with Veibae and shit, and not a single word has been exchanged since. So thanks for proving my point.
>>88227107Explain this
>>88227135That isn't Kson. GEEGA joined Vshojo long after Veibae left. And this was like a 1000-streamer collab or something insane where anybody and everybody was invited.
>>88226830>chudSo, you are that kind of people, huh?What a surprise.
>>88227135that collab was wild. I think Doki fucked up xQc again for a bit there during it.
>>88227135Those glasses... fuck am I gonna watch Geega now?
>>88226783My oshis never returns. Their character is gone forever. I barely cared for their next incarnations because they are entirely different character.
>>88227187>ESLSo, you are that kind of pagpag, huh?What a surprise.
>>88226897>i don't see any downsides for me joining vshojo right now >OH YEAH WELL THESE OTHER PEOPLE QUIT VSHOJO ONE YEAR AFTER YOU SAID THAT>YOU FUCKING TRAITOR LIAR BENCHOD WASTERN WHORE KEKEKEKEKEK KEKAROOOOO>>88227107>>88227185https://x.com/ksononair/status/1651430560135536640>silver and vei can still collab with us>THIS MEANS KSON PROMISED TO COLLAB PERSONALLY WITH VEI EVEN THOUGH THEY NEVER COLLABED 1-1 EVER "western" holofags are a plague
>>88227341Joke's on you. More than 90% of her Japanese fans stopped watching her too
>>88227451>MY LIES GOT CALLED OUT?>I MUST DOES TOSS OUT THE KEKKY NAMBERS YES SAAARR
>>88227337>waaa you must speak good englishNein.
>>88226270I dream for a day when Roara and Panko collab so I can listen to two italian women yap at once.
>>88226270I assume she's still besties with her main indie friendAt least her friend mentions her a lot still.
>>88226679retard, if she wanted more holofans she would stay in HOLOLIVE. are you for real?
>>88226352You can't lure holofans on youtube either.Rica being 3view is a great example even if she doesn't have a model.Truth is that 70-80% of holofans are loyal to the blue dorito and will never follow their "oshis" over to their indie lives because "they're boring after leaving the box">Coco: 20% of 7.5k = 1.5k>Mel: 20% of 5k = 1k>Aloe: Canned right at debut, is 1k on youtubeDid youtube save any of them? Nope. Majority of the holofans will never support the "traitors" due to the tribalism. They an ex-holo's success as a threat to cover's business, why would they support them?
>>88227670>1.5kMore like 800 on a good day when she isn't coombaiting.
>>88226897Nyanner's was on ironmouse's subathon last month. Oh wait you don't watch streams kek
>>88226632Fauna is a great person, you suck.
>>88227670>they're boring after leaving the boxYeah, they are actually. And it's not exclusive to Hololive, it's about any corpo. You see, the only good indie that left the corpo is Dokibird.I love Dokibird. She did a good thing leaving Nijisanji I saw you saying "blue dorito" (gj blowing up your cover, sis), so I'll repeat this name again. Dokibird, Dokibird, Dokibird.
>>88228184> <...>Nijisanji. I saw you<...>Quick fix.
>>88227577they hung out a few days ago.
>>88227761That's wrong but thanks for trying to prove my point anon. The en numbers of youtube are almost entirely kept up by the holo brand. The farthest you can go is a 2-3k as an indie which is what we're seeing now.
>>88228184Mint is still good after leaving Nijisanji too.
>>88225943with no rules holding them they are just bunch of vultures that will do everything to get some popularity
>>88228273I totally agree, she is nice. But she is loved by the watermelon supporters for some reason...
Holopigs.
>>88228184Nah I actually watch indies and not kuroslops, but nice try whoever you are. Doki's pretty cool.
>>88228316Mint's kind of loved by everyone but the most schizophrenic of sisters. It's actually insane how many different teams are constantly approaching her or sneaking her into their events.
>>88228427because Mint is just here to hit dingers and have a good time...
>>88225943indie family is toxic asf because of those sexpests in every corner
>>88228273Mint chose the /corpo/ box instead of the /lig/ box.
>>88227048Of course he doesn't. If they don't acknowledge each other on twitter they might as well be enemies.
>>88226642>god I hate indies and them pretending to be friends, it's so much better in blue dorito>no, not like that!
>>88227506we get it, you love fleshtuber whores. calm down
>>88228394Indiedogs.
>>88227670Rica?qrd?
>>88227048No they don't.What a bizarre claim. I spoke to Oli privately and she hasn't heard from Soya in over 17 months
>>88228007She was mean to Shondo
>>88234478Shondo likes it
>>88226159Meanwhile in reality some of them are posting their loli doujinshi on Twitter
>>88226270I want Panko in hololive so bad. Never did i beg for anything but this would make me really happy. And her too, probably.
>>88226067You don't know Shiori at all if you think she's the kind of person to suddenly just stop talking to people she considers friends.
>>88232954That's a synonym.
>>88225943>indie>everything is the same but there is no "hololive" in her name anymorehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzkZa2Az7us
>>88235125who??? impeccable taste
>>88236312>headcanon so fans don't cry
>>88236335Mint (ghost)
>>88226067>Shiori tried to include her friends but most have been dropped.Tumor weeks...
QRD?What came out about her vs other indies?
>>88227048I just want a CC x Lily stream.
>>88237313>ghostunfortunate
>>88237651dw she might be dead but she still streams
>>88226159lol
>>88237487nothing, anon is scared of her success as an indie because he's a corpocuck
>>88235125>PochincoffHoly shit, why didn't anyone tell me Mint was a based robofucker?
>>88232954
>>88226159You are conflating it with VTweeters/Pronoun in profile freaks.
>>88226159qrd?
>>88225943I can't wait for the teamate thread to be 90% doki and mint begging
>>88234478Shondo has been a Fauna groupie her entire career
>>88226642>1727765714230312https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/filename/1727765714230312/this is the very picture of mental illness
>>88243050catalogfags announcing their next shitposting plans early, I see
>>88243444Holy shit, she was right, some anons do have to get off their asses and improve themselves.
Who the fuck am I looking at? Is this Ame reborn or some shit? I could not care less about an indie whore who looks like she's from a $10 visual novel. You faggots have such horrible taste in avatars it's unreal. Reminder that this entire hobby is predicated upon willingly forgetting shit that happened two weeks ago because someone is wearing a new skinsuit, lmao.
>>88226159Holobronies really don't know who is Shondo?
>>88244454>Is this Ame reborn or some shit?Yes
>>88226270Is Raora actual friends with Sayu?
>>88237595Which Lily? The frog loli? Or Shondo's best friend?
>>88226067Feel justified in feeling both of them are poor streamers then. If you abandon your friends as soon as you get famous that reflects more on you, especially since they probably learned so much about streaming from them.
>>88225943>21 threads most of them low quality discord bait threadsWhy aren’t the jannies doing their job?
>>88249379Dooby is the biggest thing in vtubing currently, it's normal for her to have this many threads
>>88227048>they still hang outBut I bet it’s a lot less. Mumei was talking about her and Cecelia watching movies together. Just less time in general with her being in Holo and spending time with Hologirls
>>88249379Not Hololive, so get use to it.
>>88235125eyybased kyockcho enjoyer
>>88237595I do too but you know this board and twitterfags would harass her into graduating for acknowledging Lily's existence at all
