So, why are Hololive girls allowed to follow Dooby, but they're not allowed to follow Yuki?Or is it, that they actually like Ame(exception being Ina), and they all hate Aqua?
yes yes yes it's all true op
Bros help me I ate a bee and I don't know what to do
>>88233207Hololive doesn't really care about EN, good or bad
Yes anon, Aqua is a bully and a whore! She was just lucky she was granted a good graduation!
>>88233252Free protein!
>>88233207>they actually like Ame(exception being Ina)What is this schzo narrative? It's just social media.
>>88233207You think the title "Affiliate" is just for show anon ?
>>88233207>that they actually like Ame(exception being Ina)newfag don't know ina RM :v
>>88233207We actually still have no idea what this affiliate thing means, so it might be cuz of that.
>>88233459It's also outdated narrative, Ina followed her hours ago.
>>88233207Yes, everyone actually loves Rushia and hates Agua the Bully
>>88233252https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyPjwxHxbus
>>88233207it's not hate just indifference, aqua was solo for most of her career. watson is one of the people en asks about tech stuff
>>88233348Rushia, you need to let it go.
>>88233207It's almost like Dooby is a corporate experiment in branching out to the Indies spearheaded by a girl who tanked her brand and needs a reset.
>>88233207Maybe because japs are actually corporate bootlickers. Mel was Chris benoit from their memory too.
>>88233527it is just a loophole so it doesn't affect any ongoing project when she graduates. example of Aqua visual novel that had to be canned because she decided to graduate.
>>88234647AQUA IS A BITCH WHORE!
>>88234707SchizoGOD I kneel
>>88233207oh is that why this dooby person is all over the place now
>>88234547You're telling me Marine doesnt care enough about her to press follow?That's really your actual argument?
>>88233527It means they will be in holo earth
>>88235014You're being told that you DON'T know, and thus are rrating.
>>88233207No one in JP are actual friends.
>>88234707I believe it.
>>88235014Marine doesn't care about anything or anyone.
>>88234547>aqua was solo for most of her careerNo she wasn't.
i dont think mel was really terminated. it was probably a decision her and cover made to save her from the stalker that cover hired to be her manager. they probably wrote her a fat check, let her say a few things before going, then ghosted. all to help her out since they had no way of protecting her anymore.
>>88233252Just bee yourself.
Japanese work culture is harsh. Piss off management and you will be sent to the expulsion room/list. Yagoo will make sure they volunteer to graduate. They will be banned from collabs. Sponsorship and merchandise opportunities will be cut off. I made it up but I won't be surprised if something like that happened in the future. EN branch of hololive is ran differently. Rules are probably more relaxed.
>>88233207Aqua never had any interest in the EN girls.
>>88235629I don't think you're understanding what's being said. Holo JP girls are not following Sakuna but EN girls are following dooby.
>>88235534it was her nijifriend who got her fired, they are not friends anymore
>>88233207Did you fucking miss the part where literally everyone in HoloJP was quietly saying that they thought Aqua was a retard for leaving the company for whatever specific reason she had? Everyone was literally going: "We will support you. But also, holy shit, this is really stupid. But what can you do, fine we'll support you. But seriously, holy shit, this is so stupid."
>>88235886Almost all of them are petrified by the thought of not being in hololive. Marine has implied that she will just die the moment hololive is over.
>>88235886Never happened
>>88233207fake relationships vs real, it's not that deep
>>88233207Real friends don't need to follow seach other on twitter to keep up with each other.
>>88235987he is talking about Towa, she tried to stop aqua and then yap a bit about how you have an obligation working in the company and dealing with it like an adult.
>>88233207one of these had a weird not-quite graduation, one of them had a complete break off. guess which one cover is more friendly to.
>>88235987Both Marine and Towa definitely did hint at that
>>88236186I wonder if Cover are having second thoughts after seeing another girl with shoulder-length blonde hair and a yellow dog mascot beginning with "Bubb".
>>88235963Corporate boot lickerism make people say ridiculous thing. Marine going indie would actually be the final blow for hololive. A marine free of corp ethics it's very interesting. She loves to jap and dance she'd be like a fillian type of chuuba with her creativity
>>88235987It did happened.
>>88236416Marine can't do shit without hololive. She doesn't have the backbone to actually do the dirty work herself.
>>88236465She has the talent just not the confidence because of vile pieces of shit like you not believing in her. Just like every Japanese line of work which tries to break people spirits to keep them on a tight leash fuck you. If marine grow some confidence in her abilities a streamer your cool ranch dorito corp will be in big trouble. Who's going to carry the branch pekora miko sora?
>>88236587ame is way more influential than whoqua
>>88233527It's like a WWE Legends contract.So she can do a run in during a concert or something
>>88236676You're a fucking schizo.
>>88236587We need senzawa back
>>88235886>>88236149>>88236310
>>88235886this is essentially the real explanation, the JP girls think aqua quitting was bullshit and just hurts the brand i.e the rest of the girls still there. for ones like mel or coco where they left for reasons either completely out of their control or likely so in coco's case, they have much more sympathy.
>>88235886So you're saying that they stopped being friends with her because she left?
>>88235886Source?
>>88236761>>88236845https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vXG6hJN1Fchere you go anon
>>88236736>believing in my oshi talent>schizoKys unpaid shill.
>>88236994You are a schizo for accusing me of shit I have not done. I have not told "your oshi" (she is not your oshi, you do not watch her) anything.Everything I'm saying is decriptive based on her own words and what she says about herself.
>>88235886So what will they say when she's super successful?
>>88237183Nothing because then they know she's better than them.
I hear all vtubers are actually MENI have concrete proof too because my dad is a man
>>88236706I'd legit mark out.
>>88235014Marineschizo...
>>88233252You shouldn't bee worried
>>88236587Interesting that NotKronii doesn't follow her
>>88236587i hate nerissa
>>88233252Go eat more
>>88233207holoJPs aren't doxxfags.
>>88233207Because she's on good terms with the company and an Emi awarded person who will be subcontracted for her 3D studio and talents.
do you all understand what every tweet activity they doing is controlled by management? so all this followings or even straightforward tweets means nothing. JP girls still meet with Aqua a lot, shopping, going to amusement park etc. will EN girls going to do the same with Ame? I highly doubt it. so instead you need to ask why cover management promote this "friendship"
>>88239464can you rewrite all that, but in english this time?
>>88233207not even god know who tf is that on top
>>88237215>better>given more sololive and brand collab opportunities than anyone other than Sora>still can't sing or dance for shitroru. Lmao even
>>88233252oh no
Holoen feels oppressed having to do the job they signed up for. Part of that entailed learning japanese but none of them learned japanese. Gura was lying when she said Aqua was her oshit, none of the EN girls ever cared. Holoen is probably going to slowly decline from here and frankly all of the jokes back in 2019 that "western roasties would ruin it, so it shouldn't exist" turned out to be 100% correct.Womp Womp
>>88233252Drink bleach, it'll clear you right up.
>>88239611She is clearly better if she can get all of that despite being "worse" in the eyes of troglodytes like you.
>>88238594Or maybe no one follows the reddit pussy version of 'doxx'.
>>88239970She got all that because she was one of the first to make it big and Cover wanted to capitalize on the momentum, not because of her efforts. And she only got big because of clippers getting lucky with the algorithm, so...
>>88240169>she only got big because of clippers getting lucky with the algorithmYou will say that about any popular vtuber that you don't like.
>>88234707I will now believe this rrat.
>>88236416>Having a stable job with a good source of income>Uncertainty of self employment and all the added headache of dealing all yourself
>>88240313Wrong, also>ad hominem attackRoru.
>>88240528I'm 100% correct. If Marine left hololive tomorrow you would say she was never good and only seemed that way because she got lucky with the algorithm.
>>88240751You're only correct inside your own mind kek, I don't care about Marine but she has regularly put in the work and spent both time and money on the content that made her popular
>>88241050You don't actually believe that. Marine has streamed less than Aqua has over the past 3 years and the moment she's not with hololive you will start pointing that out and saying that she's not actually a hard worker who deserved all the things she got.
>>88241050>but she has regularly put in the work and spent both time and money on the content that made her popularSo just like Aqua
>>88233207JP are professionals, EN is EN
>>88233252unlikely to bee a problem, just keep an eye out on any reactions you might hive
>>88236587Sanabros...
>>88235097>they
>>88233207Its not just active Hololive girls, even those who departed via various means before her (Kson, Mikeneko, Delutaya, Rica) and RMs aren't following Yuki.She has gained 200k+ followers in a single day and not a single one is one of her former coworkers it seems.
>>88236869Aqua is the one who abandoned them.
>>88233207Probably something to do with Ame negotiating a parting of ways but Aqua negotiating a FUCK THIS SHIT I'M OUT
>>88236587Honestly the EN rms seem like they followed all at once or at least in succession. Do they have a group chat? Was it an organized raid?
>>88238052NotGigi does, all is good in the world
>>88238052>Interesting that NotKronii doesn't follow herMyth and Promise started following Dooby in a clearly organized manner with Ina not following until after her debut. There is some type of hidden meaning behind why they are doing it gradually and why Kronii hasn't joined with the rest of Promise.
The truth is Aqua left because she had no friends
>>88233207>Mori the COO of Hololive Global>Bae the company girl>Ceres "What are you going to do, fire me?" Faunathe question is why don't the other ENs follow her
>>88236706OH MY GOD IS THAT AMELIA WATTSON'S MUSIC
>>88236587>only Mori is gutsy enough to follow on both accounts
>>88238052>>88243284It's because Fauna is following her. Kronii isn't going near anything that Fauna touches.WAIT. IS Kson following?
>>88233527Dooby/Amelia collab possible?
Who the actual fuck is Yuki?
>>88236587Oh, ratmom's following her as well? Nice. Maybe she's the one taking care of Doob's live2D rigging.
>>88242349Who was Aqua closest to in JP anyway?
>>88245547Look at her face and hair. She didn't even change anything. It's like Mikeneko.
The other JP girls where against Aqua leaving because they're all weak willed pussies, all brow beaten and stomped on by Cover management, they don't wanna rock the boat because they're to scared of standing on their own.Aqua leaving, Dooby shitting on Holo and that shit with artists, you haven't seen SHIT yet with Hololive yet.
>>88245770Why do they always do this though? Why are women so fucking stupid? At least male vtubers know how to rebrand without skinwalking.
>>88245860Doob is noticeably significantly different from Ame. It's probably a JP thing. Did Kson have her model before Holo?
>>88243284Kronii took the spicy noodle challenge, and is now dealing with something a bit more important than "work" or "following friends on social media" or "literally anything at all other than sitting on the throne while wishing for a pallet of aloe vera wipes"
>>88245547It's Japanese for snow. I hope that helps.
Thats not aqua?
>>88246051WAIT. She actually did THE CHIP or just did noodles? I missed it.
>>88233207>So, why are Hololive girls allowed to follow Dooby, but they're not allowed to follow Yuki?They are allowed to, you fucking retard. A bunch of holo members follow Kson, so yea, you're just a fucking retard.>Or is it, that they actually like Ame(schizo babble), and they all hate Aqua?Maybe because Aqua's decision to quit was fucking braindead and no members truly supported it and actually tried to stop her? So why would they follow her new vtuber account? Unlike Kson or Dooby, they clearly thought she had no logical reason to leave Hololive and thus don't want to show actual support. Doesn't mean they hate her, but it also doesn't mean they want to openly connect themselves to her.
>>88233207they know holo did ame wrong and they want to boost her indie endeavorsaqua is too big and doesn't need help
>>88247687More like the JPs are just corpo bootlickers who threw their coworker under the bus.
>>88246051ok fair
>Please note that discussion should pertain to a VTuber's streams and content, and should not pertain to their real lives, relationships, or appearances ("IRL").What is the point of the sticky if the mods just let roommnate niggers run rampant across the entire catalog?
>>88245714Shion, Marine and STARTEND and even then you could argue STARTEND was just all business. So really nobody who mattered except Marine (Shion is basically retired)
>>88233492>Affiliatewhere?
>doxxnigger general
>>88236416Wrong. You can tell Marine thrives under a professional setting, especially doing something she loves and moreso after her throat surgery. Marine is now as much brand hololive as Fubuki or Sora.
How do you guys know she is really Aqua?
>>88248263>Marine>doing something she loveslol
This is pretty fucking telling, that both Holo accounts and their rm's are following dooby but literally none of them are following Yuki lmao
>>88245992>Doob is noticeably significantly different from Ame
>>88234707Holy shit rratsGODS eating good
>>88233207Everything you typed is true and everything I type is trueCome, let us be gods
>>88238973Emi LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>88234707I'll go with that.
>>88245714Suisei likes Aqua quite a lot, but I guess she doesn't like notAqua kek
>>88236587Based rratmom
>>88238973>Emikek
>>88236761>>88236845A sentiment mirrored by many of them over the past few years at random.Haachama almost did a few months back before she was convinced to stick on again.I miss those covers she uploaded, they were so fucking cute man.One day she will get Eminems attention.
>>88245770>>88245860It's called developing a bond with your artists and riggers.Mimi has the same papa and was around before most of Hololive existed and she just came back recently with based Yasupapahttps://www.youtube.com/live/9qDn4wuKPfoLikewise Lulu leaving Niji, and ... fuck, I forgot the other sister, the fortune telling one.Both went back to the same old Saine route as they were before, and the 3 sisters were reunited.This is extremely common.
Wasn't she pregnant or something like that
>>88233252oh shit are you okay??
>>88251877>Ina was the last talent in Myth to follow Dooby>Kronii will be the last talent in Promise to follow DoobyThey aren't just following Dooby to support her they are hinting there are management reasons for why Ame left to be an indie vtuber. Dooby is moving across a desert in a train while the last thing Myth did was to build a bus stop. They clearly do want Cover to work things out so that Ame can return to Hololive.
>>88257035can u give me your schizophrenia it must be such an interesting world
>>88234647honestly if mikeneko learned english just so she could shitpost on 4chan she'd have my respect :D
>>88257035>>Ina was the last talent in Myth to follow Dooby>>Kronii will be the last talent in Promise to follow DoobyI see a pattern here, Ayame was right.
>>88236149>>88236310>>88236447>>88236916You lying fucks I just watched the entire section of that stream and she literally didn't say any of that other than "Some opportunities are being closed but others are opening up so you should stick it out (like an adult) in case what you want can finally be achieved" Actually kill yourselves
>>88259121>surprised schizos don't watch streams and make up shit all the timeHow new?
>>88257771Myth and Council have been fighting with management for years and management was so upset with Ame that she is currently taking an indefinite hiatus/graduation. The one thing Cover is absurdly stubborn about is model design since that is attached to merch sales. A Hololive talent getting a 2.0 redesign is like moving a mountain so it's noticeable that Ina and Kronii will be the last talents in their gen to follow Dooby.
>>88233561Why would you lie about something so easily disproven?
>>88257035>>88261296Honestly, probably not even far off the truth.It's obvious there is some discord in Hololive right now. To what extent we don't fully know.Many of them have brought up graduation randomly and unprompted over the past few years with increasing frequency. Some almost dropped out, and some now have.I don't want to see it fail. I really hope they can fix shit before more people leave.
>>88263711people think about quitting their jobs all the time and most people aren't women with incredibly overinflated senses of self worth because they lucked into an insane opportunity. let me know when like gen 5 or later is going to graduate willingly lmao
>>88234707yooo let him cook
>>88264165That's more kind of the issue is it not?Even people here bring up regularly how it feels like later gens get more attention on them as the new "golden geese". (company wise, fuck the fans, we're speaking company assets here)
>>88263711Whatever the issue is, it seems EN specific. Can't remember if it was birthday or anni, but I recall Gura sounding so frustrated at management for having to discard all the things she had planned for the big stream, and she had to put something else together last minute. It just doesn't feel like the EN branch has been that well supported until Advent. Some talents like Bae seem to be doing ok just from being in JP and making the tight connections. But could very well be that Ame just got sick of carrying things behind the scenes due to lack of staffing. Myth especially has made it pretty clear over the years how often they're just left to figure things out on their own.
>>88266261>>88263711EN staffing has always been a shitshow. Just look at all the small EN corpos imploding because of staff incompetence more than the talents lack of audience draw. Its mostly remote work and not all in the same timezone, very hard to find reliable and consistent management. I'm surprised we haven't encountered a Mel incident during the Omega times. Ame might have been able to persevere if not for life-situation with family.
>>88233527They own her IP for merch and shit like the recent Mori MV. Aqua will never be officially referenced ever again
>>88235534Anon, the stalker thing was resolved two years before the termination.
>>88263711Myth have been hyping up 2025 so it does feel like they are slowly working things out with management. They didn't build that bus stop to be a memorial to Ame and I don't think she would have implied that she can return to Hololive if she believed it was unlikely.
>>88267335That anon is talking like it’s still 2022, it’s not nearly as bad as he’s claiming it is.
>>88233252if it was a female youll be fine, if it was a male one youll be birthing bee babies through your ass
>>88233252eat another so he has a friend
>>88241309>unlikely to bee a problem, just keep an eye out on any reactions you might hiveA fucking bee wrote this post.
>>88233207Aqua was very unfriendly after Holo made her lose her footing in China. The sensation that her career was aborted was always there.
>>88233252Drink a liter of 80 proof
>>88269093This, Aqua occasionally had her moments and Suisei busted her ass to make Aqua relevant again and keep her around alittle longer but her golden era was back in 2019 and 2020, so damn long ago.
>>88268001I agree it probably isn't as bad as "peak-Omega" times, but there are signs if things behind the scenes are not addressed HoloEN could end up going back there. Small one-off problems due to management not caring pile-up overtime until eventually something "unforgivable" happens and there is no salvaging it. NijiEN sank this exact same way, just little issues that just escalated because nobody with the ability to do something about it cared until the Selen situation happened and everything came crumbling down
>>88233252did you get stung or did you just eat it? because i don't think there's anything wrong with eating it.
>>88233207Any bets on who Rica will follow first?
>>88272787You’re either exaggerating or you’re letting dramafags get to your head.
>>88233207JPs respect kayfab. ENs don't. The proper thing is to follow with roommates not corpo accounts.
>>88274182According to >>88242349 not even RMs are following
>>88233252Fried bee taste good. Good source of protein
>>88233252
>>88272787It does seem like things will gradually improve as the Cover USA branch takes shape and reduces the need for the Americans to travel. Just probably too little too late for Ame if she needs to be closer to her family. Regarding NijiEN, the difference is the holo EN branch has done a good job of vetting their hires and no members are going to power trip or stir up unnecessary drama that will cause the ship to sink.
>>88276921Except that that's not the point of what they're setting up in the US. It's been stated that it's for merch, which will cut down on shipping costs.
>>88233207Yes yes it's all true. Now take your happy pills
>>88277343It's a bit more nuanced than that. The mission statement includes local event planning without having to go through JP HQ. That's a type of support that EN hasn't really gotten before and will help them grow their brand locally. Think more events like the Dodgers collab, and it shouldn't be difficult to understand how even if it's ultimately related to merch or sales, it would naturally make the work a bit more manageable and cut down on the amount of meetings sceduled for odd hours due to time zone differences.
>>88275108maybe that'll be too obvious
>>88248106nigger it's on the website how are you this fucking retarded
>>88259121>Some opportunities are being closed but others are opening up so you should stick it out (like an adult) in case what you want can finally be achievedgay ass sentiment that depends entirely on trusting the company to do right by you, when the company oftentimes has a history of not doing so. But sometimes miracles happen. It's all down to luck in the end
Aqua voluntarily leaving is disrupting the social order. THAT is the worst thing you can do, especially when said social order is basically all the other JP holos pressuring one-another into burying their grievances and soldiering on. That is the source of all tension.
>>88281918Aqua wanted to leave since 2021 and most of them knew it the whole time.
>>88282154Ya but many of them wanted to leave. The difference is, Aqua is the big name that actually did leave. Many of them have the same thoughts but have been holding back. Aqua did not. Most other JPs soldier on or take long breaks. Aqua left.
>>88235886>>88236310Literally only Subaru was pissed at her because she shut the door on the possibility of a Gen 2 concert, something she was actually looking forward to do one day, and later said she made peace with it and gave her best wishes.
When are we going to find out that Aqua was actually Rushia tier Menhera?
>>88233348Is that why she's been drawing porn on fanbox the past 2 years?
>>88233207>JPs don't follow JPs post-graduation>ENs follow ENs post-graduationThere must be some kind of correlation here...
