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>half a million views in 9 hours
So Cover's dead, right? This is objective proof that in return for 35% of the superchats and 100% of the merch/ad/concert revenue, the Cover Corporation gave back literally nothing.
The Cover Corp Shareholders were already losing the fans trust after literally crippling several talents and now they've just lost the illusion that they aren't parasites. It's over. No one worth a shit is applying anymore and the existing talents are abandoning ship as soon as they can find an escape clause in their contract.
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>>88236480
people already said this 3 years ago after coco graduated and nothing changed
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>>88236480
Ame was the only parasite
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I do sincerely hope that either Cover dies or starts getting more lax in their retarded draconian rules as a result of stuff like this for the sake of my oshi that are in it, but let's not count our eggs before they're hatched, OP.
It's entirely possible Dooby's views completely plummet when the novelty wears off. Now it's really important to keep track of the progress.
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>>88236480
yawn, another giftcord raid
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>>88236543
she already nuked her fanbase before this and she's doing her best to make sure everyone with a brain leaves
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>>88236539
They are squatting her 3D studio but sure, she's the parasite.
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>>88236630
nice english
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Like with every debut, it's too early to tell. Her real veiwership numbers will be revealed in a month. It will probably end up lower than her past self. The money might be better because it won't be cut up as much.
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watching holoantis mald over a few nothingburgers is great, this is exactly why hololive will stay at the top, no one offers what the hololive girls do
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>>88236760
>The money might be better because it won't be cut up as much.
This is retarded though, even if cover doesn't take the 30% or more cut she's still going to magnitudes less than before, her dedicated fans are gone and she won't get nearly as many opportunities
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>>88236480
>Not counting inflation
>This day 500K was like 100K in 2021
It's nothing.
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>>88236841
More freedom, though
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>>88236851
It wouldn't have happened under Gura's oshi >>88236506 administration.
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>>88236480
>Only 1/3 of Doki re-debut
On no...rip she's done
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>>88236480
We need more threads, Hololive is dead this time for sure!
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>>88236877
You know what they say, freedom ain't free
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>>88236534
Coco was a retard who could only do toilet humor.
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>>88236543
They won't change. Japanese corps are stuck 30y in the past that's why their entire economy is tanking.
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>>88236877
>More freedom, though
Freedom to do what? For years we've had retards like Coco and Ame apparently crave this so called freedom yet they do fuck all with it apart from whore themselves out to coomers on twitch.

CC seems to be pretty happy doing what she does and she's no less creative than Ame. Even Shiori has her creative unique moments and neither have complained about restrictions. Shiori even posted irl vlog videos of her trips and holidays and Hololive didn't give a fuck because she was professional about it. Most of the shit Dooby and Kson complained about they put on themselves because they're fucking stupid whores.
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>>88238358
Its the opposite of more freedom really, you're at the mercy of a smaller crowd
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>>88236777
>no one offers what the hololive girls do
[citation needed]
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>>88238845
seethe
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>>88236561
>unicorns
>brains
-_- s-sure
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>>88236480
>100% of the merch/ad/concert revenue
I don't know where you got this number, but put it back and put your hands in your pockets. you're clearly too stupid to play with sharp objects.
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>>88239278
It's exclusively retards that are anti-corpo
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>>88236480
Go back to /#/
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>>88236534
The HoloCN branch was shut down. People are arguing the HoloEN branch will be shutdown. They would be absolutely right if the EN branch were still just Myth, Hope and Council. So many of them would love to leave that it would force Cover to shutdown the rest (or absorb them in some JP sidebranch like Irys and Bae for example). But with Advent especially but also Justice, there's way more support among the actual girls themselves that they are becoming more like JP where they all support each other to stay in. In JP, nobody leaves because nobody else will let them leave. Aqua left because her two closest friends didn't want her to stay but they have too many people who would stop them from leaving so Aqua did get tricked in a sense there.
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I support her because her model is sexo.
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>>88236480
i just wanted to see if she was cute
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>>88237030
Coco had a work ethic and made tons of episodes of asacoco, how long did Ame's "successor" last?
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>>88236480
this time for sure sister, cover is going down!!
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>>88236841
Dooby didn't become an indie vtuber for the money and she has filtered out her unicorns because she only wanted to be an entertainer. Hololive is built on unicorn pandering to maximize revenue even if management also wants the same talents to hype up Holostars. While I think Ame really didn't like the unicorn pandering it was obvious that most of the EN branch doesn't get along with upper management
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>>88236480
Is that it? Wait until you see Sakutan's
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>leaves hololive
>wins emmy the next day
lol
lmao
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>>88236480
>going all in on re debut buff
At least wait a few months to make a conclusion
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>>88238358
Freedom to do variety streams rather than being stuck with one game at a time that they have to schedule in advance, for starters
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>>88238358
>For years we've had retards like Coco and Ame apparently crave this so called freedom yet they do fuck all with it apart from whore themselves out to coomers on twitch
You say that as if it's not a valid revenue stream.
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>>88236480
Is this supposed to be impressive
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>>88236480
Do you think Dooby would have ever hit even 1% of that number had she never been Ame?
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>>88236480
you seem to miss the fact that that they need to be in Hololive first to get most of those numbers.
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>>88239688
Proof?
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Its way too early to tell. It would be nice for Cover to feel pressured to change things up and not lose more talents, but a lot of this is now on Dooby to stream constantly, network at cons, stream FOTM games that dont need perms, just do a lot to keep her in the public eye.
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>>88245558
People keep forgetting that when it comes to Doki's numbers, though. Just trying to follow Holofags' example here
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>>88242925
>full 3d on debut
yes.
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>>88241647
>Freedom to do variety streams
https://www.youtube.com/live/_cKtiicBHyg&t=10763
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>>88246143
She doesnt have l2d
That IS her model, retard, and it doesnt even look good
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>>88241157
>She didn't do it for the money
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA IMAGINE BELIEVING THIS LMAOOOOOOOO
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>>88246354
>it doesnt even look good
The sheer insane levels of cope here lmao
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>>88236480
She only has that amount of views because people are expecting her to give them some 'drama'.
It was the same with Doki when she redebuted after she left Niji.
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>>88245962
You can look up HoloCN on any vtuber wiki. They've otherwise been erased out of existence.
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>>88236708
>>88245940
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>>88246512
somebody with no frame of reference trying to argue quality is ridiculous
her shit wouldnt even hold up in a vrchat lobby
kill yourself
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>>88236841
she can still get Cover merch money.
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>>88246000
>Perms
Lol this corpo drone doesn't even know what it's like outside the fence.
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>>88246892
>no frame of reference
It mogs the shit out of every corpo model ever made, that's all the frame of reference I need.
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>>88247273
>commies in charge of making arguments
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>>88236480
'fraid so
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>>88247337
Does it frustrate you that I haven't killed myself despite a direct order to do so?
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>>88236777
there are plenty who do offer it, Cover just has the biggest mindshare.
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>>88247412
No, but Earth suffers under the burden of supplying you oxygen.
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>>88241580
>only men credited
better luck next time
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>>88247454
Good. I'll keep breathing to waste (you)r air supply and for no other reason.
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nah, I don't see it.
In fact Dooby getting all the attention kind of implies Cover hegemony even harder considering people only care about her because of who she used to be and where she came from.
I watched Miko's sololive and I realize that the main appeal of Holo really is the idol appeal, and it will only really take a better competitor doing what they do to dislodge them.
Hell, look at how many bad things have already happened to their main competitor in Nijisanji. Yet Nijisanji (JP) is still going strong
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>>88236480
so, whats the deal with cover where the girls are leaving to just do exactly the same but indie?
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>>88236480
Say that to the thousands of 1 or 2 views indie kek
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>>88236480
Pretty funny a Holo I basically ignored for years after their debut. Is now being shilled as some kind of world altering vtuber revolutionary
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>>88236480
Left to finally be able to tell the world she's Cuban and that she deserves an Emmy. Worth it?
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>>88236480
I don't get it. What stopped Ame and Aqua from pulling a Shion/Ayame/Gura instead of having to go through the trouble of graduation and reincarnating as an indie?
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>>88247886
There's this whole thing that is unironically called talent freedom.
Cover allows their talents to choose their own destinies, they aren't shackled to them by 10 year contracts and strict non competes like in K-Pop.
If they feel like the direction that Cover is obviously going for isn't for them then why wouldn't they leave?
Aqua joined before the idol direction really concretized, and she's basically done most of her goals in Holo anyway, so she left to have a more chill daily grind. Ame from what little i've seen of her never really went too hard on the idol stuff anyway, and probably didn't like all the homework
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>>88248145
>>88248108
But clearly hololive doesn't enforce jack shit. Ayame Shion and Gura are proof of that. Especially Gura because she is/was the face of holoEN and that didn't stop her from fucking off.
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>>88248108
Aqua probably got tired of the idol side of things. singing and dancing when all she really wants to do is play Apex with e celebs. Ame is the same except she never liked the idol side of things in the first place.

Gura sticks around because I think she genuinely enjoys the concert and idol side of things but doesn't like the streaming side.
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lmao she's gonna be lucky to average even 1/4th the income/ccv that she had in Holo
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>>88248314
what part of talent freedom don't you get? If Gura actually wants to stay but doesn't want to stream a lot then they accommodated it. Same thing for the manjigumi. They obviously worked something out considering Gura still loves appearing in big events
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The fact that not even the fans in the actual ame+dooby thread think this is pretty telling.
I want vulture dramafags to fuck off.
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>>88248360
How much idol stuff does Ayame even have to do? 1 or 2 times a year?
Still, I guess I can give Aqua a pass because she is an autistic introvert and probably can't say no like the others and chose graduation as an easy way out.
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>>88248395
falseflag GOD
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>>88248458
That's precisely my point. They clearly have talent freedom. So why the sing and dance with graduation and going indie just to do the same stuff?
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>>88248585
Cause she wanted to.
less homework for stuff like holofes and concerts.
She ostensibly wants the twitch streamer lifestyle of just hitting play on obs.
Antis and catalogfags go on and on about how restrictive hololive apparently is and how superior their indies are just by virtue of being more "free", they cannot seem to concieve that people join hololive because they like what it has to offer and don't mind that they can't do some things.
Like if I was sponsored by Nike and they didn't want me using Puma gear, I would not lose sleep over that loss of freedom.
Ame probably thought that the cost no longer met the benefits and thus the amicable separation cum wwe legends contract
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>>88248145
>>88248360
where the hell did aqua even go, I haven't seen anyone mention her streaming again
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>>88248878
yuuki sakuna
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>>88248970
>Comes back looking almost exactly the same
Her and doob really took a page from the same book huh?
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>give back literally nothing
>except hundreds of thousands of dollars
The poor talents :(
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dooby? More like doofy
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>>88249072
why fix what aint broken?
it makes it easier for fans to transition
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>>88248360
>Aqua probably got tired of the idol side of things
lol, lmao
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>>88248585
Being the first is groundbreaking being the second is remarkable being the third is ogey
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>>88246143
>
if it wasn't for cover corp. literally covering the cost for her 3d studio, dooby would be using an L2D model right now.
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>>88249441
holodrone cope is insane right now
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>>88248878
She redebuted the day before Dooby did.
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>>88241831
Not everything is about money
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>>88236902
reminder that Doki had over 100k ccv on redebut despite being far less popular than Ame in her corpo. Dooby will probably hover around 1-2k viewers normally
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>>88236480
another ennacuck thread
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>>88249991
>>88249991
Number monkeying obviously isn't what she wants.
If Ame wanted her army of backseating parasocial retards she'd have stayed as Ame,
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>>88250035
I don't give a shit what she wants?
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>>88250081
Then shut up and fuck off.
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>>88250149
Cry about it
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>>88249991
Doki had the biggest drama buff EN vtubing has ever seen
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>>88250035
>>88250149
caring about what the chuuba wants makes you one of the parasocial retards anonchama
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>>88236480
>the Cover Corporation gave back literally nothing.
They gave her a springboard, platform, a place to grow. Do you really believe she would have gotten to where she is today if she never joined? Save for changing the corporate culture and allowing different kinds of talents to do what they do best, I'm not sure if there's anything they can do to stop the top talents from leaving once they've gained enough recognition and feel like they're better off on their own. But the format isn't going to go away, because getting to that point is 100x harder as an indie.
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>>88246183
That's about doing different streams. She wants to do different things in one stream, which became mired with red tape couple years ago.
Also, she's talking about struggling indies. She has her dedicated audience who will watch her do whatever.
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>>88236902
>>88249991
Doki had those numbers because she was riding the wave of the biggest vtuber disaster in history.
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>>88248108
Pull what exactly? Are you saying Shion/Ayame/Gura don't want to stream?
Whether they do or not, Aqua and Ame do, and they just don't like what the Cover management has evolved into.
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>indie is training for small corpo
>small corpo is training for hololive
>hololive is training for indie
It all comes full circle. All parts of this life cycle are vital for a thriving chuba ecosystem.
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>>88250551
It's also not that different from many other career paths.
>get an education
>get hired by small business
>get hired by larger corporation
>strike out on your own
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>>88249313
>why fix what aint broken?
at that point why graduate at all
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>>88242925
>4 years ago
Maybe
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>>88236506
Listen, he's a great vtuber - some say the best. He's virtually everywhere you look on youtube.
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>>88249934
She did? I thought it was tomorrow.
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>>88250475
No, they don't like the work that comes with being an idol.
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>>88251026
V stands for Victory
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>>88251775
It's literally both. And the only aspect of "being an idol" they don't like is simply the increasing amount of work they're expected to do when it comes to performances, when they want to focus on streaming.
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>>88251775
Aqua loved idol stuff though.
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>>88246830
I think he's asking about that bullshit about Aqua's friends tricking her into leaving
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>>88247825
>I watched Miko's sololive and I realize that the main appeal of Holo really is the idol appeal
Some of EN didn't fully understand what they were getting into until the lockdown started ending. Even a lot of EN viewers haven't realized this yet. If the talent want to be an idol, to get better at singing and dancing, to make connections in the music industry, to have solo lives with decent production value, Cover has only gotten better at making those dreams a reality. If streaming is their main priority and everything else is just homework or an obligation, sooner or later they'll burn out from having underestimated how much work goes into the few idol events that come around every year.
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>>88236480
Not Aqua is a better metric for this considering she already has more subs than all of Justice. But yeah, ex-holos popping off + increased restrictions and workload + not paying artists + low stock prices pissing off investors means that Yagoos ass is in fucking danger and the company dies immediately without him
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>>88245061
Her pl was a 100 view kek
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>>88247825
Then cover should be an idol company and stop any illusions of being about streamers or tech.
Let the talented entertainers like Dooby and half of the other girls leave to do more interesting things and only keep the idols around
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>half a million views in 9 hours
You think she would have gotten these numbers if she had never been in Hololive?
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>>88253380
>Some of EN didn't fully understand what they were getting into until the lockdown started ending
cover wasn't all in on idolshit before then either
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>>88253602
Hololive is only a stepping stone.
Just like being an idol is a gateway to getting into a better entertainment job like acting or being a real musician
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>>88253711
The international branches were late to everything because of the lockdowns. But there was probably always a chance they would have just gotten shut down or become something else.
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>>88252958
Yes, but she was overwhelmed by the demand. She'll probably have a sololive in a year or two, but other than that she'll be just an apex streamer.
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>>88253711
There is a fair point here, but it's mainly applicable to the early JP gens. The idol aspect really started taking off around late 2019 with Sora. Myth debuted a year later though, so there isn't much of an excuse for not knowing where the company was headed. The only thing surprising is how well Hololive Gamers took it, for them all to still be around today.
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>>88236534
>people already said this 3 years ago after coco graduated and nothing changed
That's not true. Hololive became much more popular and successful during those 3 years
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>>88238358
This.
In essence they are true streamers. They want fame.
They simply can not handle the lack of recognition. She will be fleshstreaming in no time.
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>>88254681
The funny part of Gamers is them saying they would have quit if they were forced to be gamers, implying that was never the plan. When it obviously was the plan.
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>>88236480
Serious question from someone who never watched her as Ame: what is her appeal supposed to be? I respect the effort that went into the 3D stuff, but the return stream still came across as somewhat childish, like I was watching a Holo-fied Filian or something.
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>>88255992
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>>88247273
lol
lmao even
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>>88247583
>Ricky Watson
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>>88257821
>2017
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>>88236554
false picture
Having been betrayed by niggersanji, smug Selen redeemed (heh) her offense against holobronies and changed her objective to destroying sisters.
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>>88255992
Coming up with lots of different ideas (la creatividad) and then executing on them in anything but a flawless manner (scuffkino), being a soulful (terrible) singer, being ADHD, being schizo. In short, I think it's a case of loving her for her flaws, whether that's because it makes her feel more different/unique, or more approachable/real.
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lol
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>>88236480
>This is objective proof that in return for 35% of the superchats and 100% of the merch/ad/concert revenue, the Cover Corporation gave back literally nothing.
Pretty sure they made her famous
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>>88236539
you forgot gura
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>>88255992
she's cuban and an emmy winner and NOT hololive
those are the reasons
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>>88241580
can someone explain this to me? a show she worked on won an emmy? what was her contribution exactly, and why does it sound like she's taking full credit?
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>>88246000
i have not watched ame in years, but from what i remember she was the laziest fucker in existence and i can't really see her doing all that
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>>88255992
People like her because she doesn't like them. It's not that hard to grasp.
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>>88255992
watching her play in silence for hours at a time while she brute forces videos games poorly the "ame way"
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>>88265053
Except you can’t be the parasite when you’re the host. Gura is the mascot of all of Hololive whether you like it or not
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>>88236480
I hate this traitor she stole from the only good company on the market
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So, I'm just gonna say it: why are people still afraid to mention her be her real name? She obviously talked about all her achievements for a reason. She wants to be recognized. That said, please spoonfeed me. What's her name?
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>MV comes out with her included
>promo artists include her in art for a holo event she's not a part of
>debuts directly after and goes "Everyone look at me i'mma Latina and an award-winning foley artist with a jungle gym who don't need no man(ager)"
I wouldn't say I like this, she's not the same person anymore
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>>88265507
she recorded fart noises and footsteps which then she sent off to someone else to actually do something with
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>>88250081
So why ask why she left?
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>>88236480
She's the one HoloEN who I didn't watch even once after her debut (not counting collabs). She'll have a modest but dedicated fanbase, but most people like me will forget about her within a few months.
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>>88236480
It's regrettable that her face will now be used in those bait shitthreads, but what can you do eh.
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>>88236480
The biggest earners don't even rely on sc for a majority of their earnings. SC are for no talent grifters.
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>>88239688
>The HoloCN branch was shut down.
because half of the branch went fucking rouge
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>>88267468
curiosity.
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>>88250894
She doesn't want to share studio with Holostar
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kinda sucks when you fight tooth and nail for a single production studio on your side of the ocean just to fall on deaf ears and cover to spend millions of dollars on cameras alone for their studio in japan. i oversimplify but if she felt the money she and her north american co-workers earned for cover wasn't reinvested properly i could understand it
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>>88268259
>red
my favorite wow class.
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>>88272144
Yeah, that's why she left when Cover established an office in the US. Also, just come to Japan, it's not that hard.
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>>88253711
The original EN audition announcement literally described the group as "the next generation of virtual idols". Fes had already happened and they'd announced the second one. Kiara literally joined BECAUSE it was idol focused. It was as clear as it could be what they'd be doing.
>>88272144
Barely 2/3 of EN lived in NA and they were spread all over the continent, so they'd be spending 20 million dollars to let 6 people spend a few hours less on a plane
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>>88272358
it's an office though, not a studio.
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>>88255992
Unique experience of watching an autistic retard. There are many autists in hololive, but all of them are the obsessive and talkative type. Ame is the only drooling retard type. You just watch her bang her head against the wall for hours while she ignores your existence.
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>>88236480
I know a few people that are really fishy and don't support other vtubers, but they always hype up drama and trends. Those same people predictably shilled her debut in all discords they're in. It's not something that's going to translate into more success than she had before.
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>>88272144
You are YAGOO. Which NA city do you choose for your studio?
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>>88236480
a vod got 500k so now Cover is dead?
do you hear yourself?
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>>88272527
Would you say they should build a studio in Indonesia? They have as many members living there as EN has in NA, and they're not even thousands of miles apart from each other like the EN ones are
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>>88272625
Ah yes, the social butterfly autist. That one's written down in the DSM with invisible ink.
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>>88272862
500k is large noombers for liggers please understand
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>>88236480
Half a million views for what? Ame graduation? Nobody cares about that bitch. lol
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>>88255992
Cute voice and cute design. I also respect her efforts to keep HoloEN fresh during the pandemic.
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>>88273517
Social butterfly? Her? LMAO, she doesn't talk to anyone who isn't Gura, and on a rare occasion she does, it's because she's masking.
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>>88236543
Their rules protect everyone. Otherwise retards like Rushia would burn the whole company to the ground. EN whores don't understand this for some reason.
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>>88255992
I like blonde women and I find her eyes entrancing, and that goes for her as Doob too. Her antis love to joke about how "Ame invented streaming!!1!" or some other hyperbolic statement like that, but she really did pioneer certain things within the agency like posted stream schedules.
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>>88274339
the rules clearly didn't stop her from being retarded, she was fired
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>>88236480
You won't cry when you get grudgeposted once all the drama tourists abandon her right?
Ksonfags cry whenever this image gets posted despite them doing the same shit you're doing back in 2021.
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>>88266012
Who's Gura? When does she stream?
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>>88275214
i hear its some kind of shark but no one knows for sure she only appears once in a blue moon to dab on some irrelevent company called kurosanji
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>>88236480
now show me how much she was making before joining holo. she's riding what cover did for her, not the other way around. what a fucking retarded argument, this is always a sign you're talking to fucking children or people who didn't make it past high school in education when you see people cannot make the most obvious of connections. lacking of pattern recognition is literally the defining hallmark of low IQ.
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>>88274667
>murder is illegal
>people still murder
>clearly the rules dont work
Fucking retard Jesus Christ. She broke the rules, she was punished, look where she is now and look where the ones that stayed in line are.
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>>88250475
They are the best at cute loli pandering when they are grown women. The average /vt/ user never thinks about the RM feelings just the character for some reason.
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>>88236480
For people who are in it purely for the streaming aspect, yes, the benefits that cover offers amounts to initial exposure, but very little else. In fact, the highly limited nature of perms limits their potential.
Hololive is an idol agency at its core, and develops towards that particular goal. People who want to expand in the music/ entertainment industry join for the connections that cover has in the industry.
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>>88239688
Coco was not apart of the holoCN branch
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>>88274824
I went from having almost every Coco stream in the background to not watching a single Kson stream. I honestly don't care what she says, she's simply not the same streamer in terms of quality and type of streamer.

Doki is probably the only one who has retained that same vibe between her past life and current. Maybe its because of her circumstances where it wasn't her choice and she was forced to go indie.
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>>88236480
>So Cover's dead, right?
this time for sure
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>>88236561
Why are you still here?
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>>88253602
>>88253794
She just did with hololive what gigi did with v4mirai, it's just business.
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>>88266268
She always got scolded by management even in the beginning.
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>>88274824
Whatever you say, zhang.
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>>88236480
>>88247361
>>88287253
>>88287648
Hololive is dea- oh wait.
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>>88236480
All this proves is that you're guaranteed long term success if you use Hololive to grow your fanbase due to just how many people are going to know who you are and give you a chance.
A cut in revenue is a small price to pay for just how much you get back in the long term and how much it grows the hobby which in turn improves your long term growth even further.
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>>88281735
>a tourist giving his opinion of something he has no idea about
go back to twitter faggot
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>>88236480
I think it's proof that the vtubing community has entered its drama arc and it's just going to be nonstop drama from now on. It's not a corpo vs. corpo thing anymore. EVERY corpo is going to have drama now.
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>>88274824
>Ksonfags cry whenever this image gets posted
more like laughing at your schizophrenia and letting everyone know not to take you seriously.
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>>88291688
Why don't you choke on your mum's dick fag?
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>>88291688
>ksontranny seething again
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EN faggots are so delusional kek
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>>88238358
telling a woman no drives them insane
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>>88239688
Yeah Advent in retrospect really was the perfect revival for Hololive hype in the west. People memoryhole just how bad things were for the EN branch post-sauna to the Connect the world concert.
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>>88236480
I don't doubt the earning potential is lower but if one accepts the tradeoff, all it really proves is that you can be indie and self sustaining.
>>88249991
The numbers for Dooby is probably going to be closer to where Mint is right now in 2-3k land sometimes hitting 4k given Mint's redebut was a lot more normal and was months after the drama and her VOD views are more similar to Dooby's numbers and Dooby's first stream is hitting similar VOD views to Mint's first week of content rather than staying at that half million mark. Still really good money and more than enough to live on. She does really need to figure out the tech issues though.
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>>88302232
Man going indie really was the best thing to ever happen to her career. For context Mint was one of the smaller members of her previous corpo while she was in.
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>>88236534
YOU left
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>>88303944
>For context Mint was one of the smaller members of her previous corpo while she was in.
???
Are you retarded? Pomu was one of the biggest female members in NijiEN. The majority of the ones bigger than her were males. Perhaps you time traveled here from 2021 where she was the slowest one of Lazulight to take off, but more likely you're just a retard because the only females bigger than her were Selen and Enna and this is not a new thing, it has been the case for years.
Everyone who left has gotten a nice little boost from the drama, but don't act like this was some huge shift for her. She has continued to do well as Mint because she's already popular.
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>>88236480
you seem to miss the fact that they need to be in Hololive first to get most of those numbers.
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>>88271980
couldnt be further from reality
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>>88273849
>liggers
Holo member in all but name on the channel
Everyone is there because its amelia watson
She will never stand on her own merit
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>>88296451
>Advent saved the branch
LMAO
That gen has a shitter runt, a wannabe pickme, another failed "gura killer", and the only two worth a damn cucked EN for JP knowing the future of their company.
Advent didn't save shit.
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>>88236480
Elira lost
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>>88236480
ogey
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niggas who hate hololive are the same kinda niggas who hate trump.

y'all got that derangement syndrome.



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