>muh dooby creatividad 3D!meanwhile sakuna beat with a template 2D slideshow debut lmao
>>88317562Dooby couldn't beat holoEN on her second stream
>>88317562Why even bother? Why not make the debut just playing Apex like 99% of future streams will be?
>>88317562I can hear Doobie's ACK! when i see notaqua's stream
>>88317562most of the "creatividad" types are compensating for lack of charisma by moving things around in OBS
>>88317671does notqua have charisma? I don't understand japanese.
>>88317712she has a cute voice which is all japan cares about
>>88317739You're just indirectly saying you don't speak JP without saying it.
>>88317793Doesn't make his comment untrue though.
>>88317712that's how top JPs can get huge just playing minecraft
>>88317850No. He said that because he never actually watch her and doesn't even understand what she's saying.
>>88317976>he never actually watch herwatched, and correct.>and doesn't even understand what she's sayingi could understand what she said if i watched her but i have chosen not to.
>>88317562sakuna beat every debut in existence but you want to pit her against a former EN who was middle of the pack in numbers
>>88317562no one actually cares about creativity people just want cute girls and comfy streams, anything else is just forced twitch shit
>>88318413This.Lately I started just watching 2views stuck on POMF like SatoAnzu and Akiyusa (guy but his character is qt loli rabbit lich). Why I should care about forced reddot memes and drama when I can spend few hours watching animu girls quietly wobbling in the corner of Project Zomboid play-through or something?
>>88317712https://files.catbox.moe/uixbws.mp4Charisma != popularity as an entertainer, since charisma is pretty much just extraversion and the most popular vtubers are just as likely if not more likely to be introverts.
>>88317562>cat girlnot even trying, huh?
>>88318413yea hololive lost me when they forced everyone to go on 4 week breaks twice a year to do concerts. i just want streams.
>>88317562>Ex-holo vs ex-holoAt least Holobronies revealed their falseflag tactic
>>88317671god i'm happy i'm not this cynical. not sure how you haven't killed yourself yet
>>88317712She's just funny. A rare trait in women.
>>88318413This is kind of my take as well, but not really at the same time.I like creativity, but I like uniqueness and variety as well. The creativity I like from the holobox is how well they integrated idolshit like concerts and lives and collabs/variety segments into their streaming box. They all help each other and become stronger as a group because of the interaction.Indies meanwhile have to compete alone, vs not just other indies but also fleshtubers. What's the point in watching a 3d indie sit down and play vidya for 6 or 8 hours when there are way more entertaining and skilled fleshtubers that do the same shit basically?I do watch actual la creatividad shit like the ARG schizo dude, but noone else does gong by his ccvs
>>88317562More often than not, being creative != being popular
>>88318862Why I should watch fleshtubers when I can watch cute anime girls?You miss the point of vtubing - vtubers don't really compete with fleshtubers except for the few chosen ones. Fleshtubers don't attract people that want this cutesy anime-esque aesthetic, art etc. The group watching Hololive and the group watching, dunno, a fucking Asmogold are two separate groups with minimal overlap.
>>88318712it's more 2d vs 3d no?
>>88318712t. falseflagger
>>88318413I mostly just open a stream and alt-tab to do work, lol. I occasionally tab back in whenever I hear laugh.
>>88317627Haven't you heard? Apex is a steaming pile of shit, broken and infested by cheaters, so lots of streamers have dropped it in favor of valo and lol.
>>88319023I'm a hololive hakooshi and I watch fleshies like moonmoon, forsen, junichi kato/unkochan, hanjou, yuyuuta, sasatikk, stylishnoob/sekiyuta, and k4sen when none of the girls are on
>>88317562Vtubing is a JP hooby and we need to gatekeep it more.
>>88317562>exholo vs exholoHOLOSEETHE
another ennacuck thread
>>88319023personally i'm not mentally ill so i can beat my dick to flesh and anime
>>88319626>Holo is the number 1 corpo >Ex holos are the number 1 IndiesThe universe is tellling you that holo talents are the best
>>88318413What's the definition of "comfy streams"? Some people will say it's 12 hours of jumping between talking and games.
>>88319153how much free time do you have jesus
>>88317562Is it new mikeneko?
>>88320235as much as other middle class dudes that get paid to sit in an office and pretend to work
>>88320175Anything with this duck
>>88319023Honestly yes, many people who watch vtubers never watched streamers before. That's why Hololive rose on YouTube, not Twitch - they aimed at people who never cared about streamers before.
>>88317562Top tier gamer vs shit tier rage quitter on female sclae
>>88319153Based ken-sama
>>88318717whoa calm down dooby
>>88317562World is unfair, look at who are the most popular streamers on twitch for example: xqc(fag that got popular because of esports drama, his main content is reacting to tiktoks whole day), Asmongold(fag that reacts to some dumb /v/ and /pol/ ragebait shit whole day) and Hasan(fag that reacts to twittershit whole day) etc... People love watching reactslop, just because you are good doesn't mean you will get popular, you need to just be charismatic and consistent, sadly dooby is none of those things
>>88321394which one is which
>>88317671I like when they puppet the models around the screen personally.
>>88319145thats even worse
>>88318652Nah, but charisma+consistency with a lot of luck is. I mean you need to be very lucky to get into holo/get popular as an indie
>>88319966>ex indies going back to being indieshmm wonder why
>>88319135same
>>88317712She has autism
>>88318363She didn't beat Trump's debut on Joe Rogan
>>88318413I want them to fondle each other boobs in 3d, call that what you want
>>88317598why does that one seething anon keep repeating this easily disprovable lie?
>>88317671truthnuke
Why would Ame's numbers increase from her Holo days? It's good enough if she can keep them.
>>88335200She, in all honesty, won't keep her numbers for long. It's really just a matter how fast she'll drop to her current level. It's not even a dig against her, it's just stuff that's bound to happen with time. It's just all the hopefags are annoying "She's gunna b numbr 1 vtuber 11!!!1111!! ".
>>88317976>Doesn't understabd what she's sayingYeah, neither do most Japs, she talks like a literal baby.
>>88317562so sick of these women doing big emotional graduations and toying with my feelings, only to redebut in a month's time. Hopefully yagoo will stop chasing people off, I'm getting real sick of this shit
>>88337142The only thing worse than them doing it are the rubes who keep feeding into it.
>>88337142Aqua did massive graduation. Ame seemed to be forced into everything she did.
>>88337678Ame wanted to keep the Ame character. Cover said "fuck that'. Everything about her new design screams that.
>>88317562so why should I care about her without hololive?
>>88337743aqua too
>>88338441Yes, Aqua too, I agree Anon.
>>88335200>Keep themGood joke, after 1 month she will have 1k max
>>88317739This anon gets it. Just have a cute voice and rake in the numbers. Works for Gura and Biboo.
Good for her, now go and watch her and stop being a retard here kek
>>88317562
EN is a mistake.History, and this thread has proven me right.
>>88317562basado
>>88346854Nah, Niji's existence is the only mistake.
>>88317562She do be cute
>>88333366Falseflagger He used FWMC to shit on her too yesterday
