>Is it ethically moral to financially ruin someone for posting ascii art that hurt your feelings?
Yes. Based Kanata.

>>88372925
Fpbp

niggas out there being cancelled for emojis

>>88372826
yes

lmfao no way this is true
Posting asci art in suki kira can't get you in trouble like this, come on

yes

>>88372826
Yes
Total Homo Death

>>88372826
yes
Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it - Mike Tyson

>>88372826
what is that emoji. is that supposed to be jacking off

>>88373524
Peeing on her grave

>>88373524
It's peeing you retard

>>88372981
>>88373524
>emoji
lurk moar, newniggers

>>88373245
Yeah let's listen to an insane drug addict with brain damage, what could go wrong

>>88372826
No

>>88372826
One of the prerequisites to democracy is being able to form your thoughts without being observed or judged. So no, as distasteful as the message is, Kanata should kill herself for this

>>88372826
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>>88372826
Yes

>>88373708
>democracy is when I can say anything about anything with 0 consequences

>>88373708
Democracy is shit. Mob rule by retards.

>>88373851
This but unironically

>>88373708
Based

Undermining free speech and abusing power is fine when celebrities you like do it.

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>>88373708
japan only has democracy because we forced it on their asses

>>88372826
yeah

>>88374012
That bastard is responsible for mosaic porn to this day.

>>88373589
>>88373606
HAHAHAHA poor kanatan. did her career die?

>>88372826
This is like something MikeCat would do.

>>88374150
Really? Fucking asshole. Japanese women have some of the best looking vaginas too.

>>88372826
>Japan is le perfect country!
>Has copyright and speech laws so draconian that any rich person or corpo can ruin the life of a japanese citizen over a fucking joke
I'm glad we're moving away from this place being considered a wonderland.

>>88374580
Americans have gaslit themselves into thinking that american copyright laws are the world's strictest, when actually they are incredible lax, even compared to other anglo countries. Many orders of magnitudes laxer.

>>88374580
Low crime and clean cities have a price to pay. No place is perfect.

>>88372826
I piss on OP's grave

>>88374580
If anyone took an objective look at Japan they would have realized long ago that it is not a Wonderland.
No country with a suicide rate as high as Japan's could ever be a 'wonderland'.

>>88372826
>japan is such a cucked country you can't even sperg out at your fictional anime waifu on the internet without going to jail

>>88373967
Free speech granted u draconian laws on social media cuz they can write and enforce their own ToS

>>88374731
>No country with a suicide rate as high as Japan's could ever be a 'wonderland'.
That has nothing to do with how the country is run though. The Japs kill themselves because of honor culture passed down from Bushido teachings

>>88373629
Unlike you religious freaks, we don't just listen to something because of the person who said it, we listen to the content and decide if it makes sense.

>>88374665
It really is. People joke about the sue hungry culture of america but at least the little get has a much better chance of defending himself than in japan.

>>88374863
No, they kill themselves because they are miserable.
>Oh, what's that? You don't wanna work 14 hours and then go out drinking yourself into a coma with your boss? YOU FUCKING DISHONORABLE CUR, YOU'RE FIRED AND NOW OSTRACIZED!

>>88374580
this is a joke? what funny about it?

>>88375028
Nigger lover

>>88372925
/thread/
Fpbp

>>88375044
No they kill themselves because they feel dishonored that some can handle the work and they can't. The lack of honor causes them to feel miserable, not the long hours themselves.
It would be the same problem if the work culture was 3 hours a day and people couldn't handle that for whatever reason.

>>88375192
Yeah, I'm sure it's just the dishonor and not the soulcrushing amount of work and then mandatory drinking.(oh, and the overtime? unpaid of course!)

>>88375268
It is. Thousands of years of honor culture is hard to break, and frankly I think most Japanese don't want to break it. They see those who kill themselves as weaklings.

>>88372826
Yes. Troll all you want but be ready to face the consequences if you do.

>>88373708
Retard.

>>88374580
Is it hard not wishing death on someone that doesn't affect your everyday life??? i could get it if it politicians but shitting on people not even related on you but because they doing better than your favourite "company"
>inb4
I don't wish for anyone death even when it related to my entertainment or life.

>>88374771
Don't use social media then? No one is compelling you to. It's their private platform and therefore their right to enforce their rules as they please. Go practice your 'free speech' in a public park or something.

>>88373708
>being able to form your thoughts without being observed
Please do form your thoughts without being observed. By anyone, ideally.

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>>88375309
You could say, Unfortunately Japanese Work Culture is a thing.

>>88372826
Made me dislike her a bit desu

>>88375445
Their country is very successful economically so I think it's working

>>88375093
It's most likely some random underage kid shitposting for attention.
Imagine if Mcdonalds Sued your entire family linage for millions over making fun of them on /ck/?

>>88375093
You don't explain jokes

Posting on sukikira should earn you a death sentence, yes.

>>88375504
roru
rumao

>>88374731
>>88375044
Japan's suicide rate and work hours are just average, compared to other first world countries.
People love to exaggerate Japanese statistics.
>>88375348
You can't "troll all you want" if the largest organization of your nation puts a gun on your head to pay fines or rot in prison, dimwit.

>>88375268
Dude, the japanese now work less than americans, including overtime, and have a lower suicide rate. You've fallen for the reddit meme of believing in information told by redditors who read it in a magazine 30 years ago

>>88374863
>>88375192
>>88375309
Explain why South Korea has one of the highest suicide rates then. Koreans don't have a suicide culture like the Japs do.

>>88375540
Go ahead. Post an article about the yen while ignoring the rest of the graph showing relatively it is in fact in good shape compared to its historical value

>>88375518
and they would fail? The most they can do is ask for it to be taken down which is very reasonable

>>88375567
Beats me, I know nothing about Korea, and it's irrelevant to this conversation

>>88375554
Yes you can. You just have to be ready to face the consequences; in this case prison.

>>88375531
This, and other supporting faggot on that site should get waterboard.

>>88372925
fpbp

>>88375645
It's relevant because SK and JP have the same work-culture and similar suicide rates, but SK doesn't have bushido suicide traditions like the Japs do, therefore honor culture isn't why there's an epidemic of suicides in JP. I thought this would have been obvious.

>>88375567
>Koreans don't have a suicide culture like the Japs do.
I get that you've never left your hickberg or british farm and believe whatever propaganda /a/ shills about asia, but Korea is just as bad if not worse than japan work wise.

>>88375744
So? They're a different people. Not all Asians are the same.

>>88375749
Koreans have an extraordinarily high suicide rate, but it has nothing to do with traditional honor suicide like that other anon was claiming was the case with Japan. The Japanese kill themselves because of work culture, same with the Koreans, the Thai, and many other asian countries with high expectations for work and education.

>>88375809
The Japs aren't killing themselves out of some outdated honor code. You'd be getting a lot more seppukus instead of men and women throwing themselves in front of trains in that case.

>>88374580
It's good actually, otherwise you end up with discourse like in.... you know.... the USA.
Perhaps you should fuck off and stay out of anything Japan related.

>>88372826
>Is it ethically moral to financially ruin someone for posting ascii art that hurt your feelings?
Was Fauna ethically moral to completely take a shit on her fans who financially support her just because someone made one post that hurt her feelings?

>>88372981
>niggas
Faggy geezer slang

>>88375956
So she was rewarding Saplings with scat fetish (most of them).

>>88375956
When did this happen?

>>88375893
>You'd be getting a lot more seppukus instead of men and women throwing themselves in front of trains in that case.
Swords arent common anymore, that's the reason why

>>88375445
>Japanese Work Culture is a thing.
All countries have work culture
Would you rather work yourself to death as a wagie in walmart surrounded by shoplifters, or work yourself to death as as salary man where you are surrounded by a good society.
This is the extremes you want to compare.

>>88375567
A nation of high insecurity. From material wealth, physical looks and comparing themselves with the Japs. They also have been mindfucked by Japs and the Chinese for centuries.

The faunaschizo HAS to be a bot

>>88376008
Last year she dropped this on them unprompted because a known troll sent her a troll chat asking if saplings were real or just simps to her
>As "Fauna" and "saplings", we cannot be friends, or, we should not be friends

>I'm sure you've heard the saying don't meet your heroes, I don't think that necessarily applies to everybody, but I think its good if you can just watch streamers and enjoy their streams for what they are

>Fauna is mean in real life?
>I don't think so, and I think I try to be myself on stream but you know, if we were friends we might have disagreements, who knows
>there might be things that you would be like, like maybe, the fact that I made 10 servings of curries and you don't eat leftovers is irreconcilable
>Because I want to show you guys only the best side of myself you know
>I think that's best, because I don't want to bring your guys moods down, by showing you, like, a non positive side of me, you know

>But I think for friends its important to open up, show them more of you if you want to be really close
>Anyway, I hope that is okay, I know, I know, don't be sad, cherish your friends because they are just as cool as streamers I promise.
>I promise they are

>There's nothing particularly special about streamers, I mean like sure maybe there's a streamer and they're great at singing but does that make them a better friend, no, it doesn't
>someone can be a great friend even if they aren't great at singing

>My friends are cooler than you? I hope so, I hope so
>quite a few of my friends are streamers, what do I do? I mean that's an exception.

>I mean obviously streamers have friends.
>And I'm sure sometimes people have made friends with streamers and it workout out, but you know

>Anyway there's my deep talk, I answered it as honestly as I could, I am happy to be here, and entertain you guys and hang out and its fun

>yeah exactly, the great part of streaming is interaction.
>There's a back and forth which makes it great, the banter.
>you just try to make me laugh? You do, you guys type funny stuff all the time.

>I think I would've had a harder time being a lets player without having a chat to bounce off of mmm hmm
>But, you should always...I know I shouldn't lecture you guys...
>It's important for you guys to not neglect your real lives too

>Put yourselves #1 always.
>I'm just some silly streamer on the internet.
>And I will not be happy if you're neglecting yourselves
>No you wont? *laughs* You must, you must.
>Please take care of yourselves.

>>88376034
Yes and also because this spate of suicides have nothing to do with honor, moron.

>>88374580
talk shit get hit is not exclusive in Japan.
it's common on every country around the world, anon.

>>88376054
why do you have to jinx it>>88376062

>>88375956
I will never in a million years get why anons got so butthurt over "We are not friends"
There are GFEtubers who have revealed bfs or randomly collabed with males who got not even a quarter of the hate Fauna got for a simple statement.

>>88375749
I think that anon was saying that Koreans don't have traditions like seppuku like the Japs do.

>>88376076
Yes it does, I already explained it's because of bushido and all you said is
>NUH UH!!!
Like a child because you watched some faggot youtuber rant about Japanese work culture. Like the other Anon said, every country has a work culture, but Japan has an infinitely better society than 99% of the rest of the civilized world.

>>88376113
Most anons here are the remnants of the Rushia and Coco and other drama tourists who are waiting for the next big drama reveal. They don't care about what Fauna said or any other thing they spam threads about, they just pretend to in order to have drama

>>88375944
Explain to me how years in jail or having to pay monthy fines for life to some company over what equates to a 4chan post is fair for any country.

>>88376179
Holy fucking weeaboo. Every other country in Asia with high suicide rates is agreed upon to be due to socio-economic factors, mental health issues, or a toxic work culture, but not in Japan it's because of 'le honorabu sudoku'? I suggest you follow their traditions and disembowel yourself immediately.

>>>/jp/

>>88376062
>treating Fauna as GFE
First mistake.

>>88376237
because "Justice is blind" everyone should get fcked over equally, making targeted shitposts to somebody is no exception.

>>88372826
Financially ruin? Isn't it basically only ~6K
This also happened months ago, I'm pretty sure the letter basically said to talk to Cover before disclosing the details online to "reach an understanding", but the first thing he did was post it online anyways.

>>88376322
>agreed because I le said so!!
Ok

>>88376062
Nothing she said was wrong in hindsight...

>>88376322
>Every other country in Asia with high suicide rates
Japan doesn't have a very high suicide rate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

>>88376062
...Did you edit the transcript? You know there's a clip for it right?

>>88372826
Does the poster will actually got punishment? I remember michael gato trolls doesn't get anything

>>88376493
Rest in piece to all the south african natives who put the pew pew to their heads

>>88376581
Did you really not understand the difference?

>>88376062
Why do the retards /here/ treat Shiori, ERB, and Ame as incarnations of hitler but are okay with Fauna saying shit like this?

>>88372925
>>88372964
>>88372987
>>88373080
>>88373136
I hope you fuckers get sued for shitting on Phase or Niji or whatever on social media, then you’d see how fucked up this is.

>>88376649
You're telling me, it's insane. Fauna can thrash her fans all she wanted to, follow all the holostars twitter, take days off every week, and all she have to do is just spam GFE and everyone forgives her.

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>>88372826
Kanata is always right, fuck shitposters beggars & trannies like this one - >>88373708
get killed by Unicorn Goddess

>>88376649
okay? i love her even more. her explain so smoothly and comfy. It feels like an older sister from your childhood explaining why you can't marry her after you propose.

>>88376687
Well for one, I don't use social media to shit on phase or niji. I just shitpost /here./

>>88375944
>It's good actually

Japanese laws surrounding slander are insane. Even if you are speaking facts and truth, if the party targeted can prove they have lost something of financial worth they can sue you.

There was a dental practice in Japan who was ruining people's teeth and someone left a review online. A few weeks later the dental practice took them to court over "defamatory statements made on a public forum with intent to harm business". Even though other dentists confirmed this man had his teeth ruined by this other practice they sued and won because he lowered their business numbers do to the bad review.

I'd rather have people I do not agree with involved in the public discourse (which I can choose to ignore and engage with) than have shitty businesses evade justice with crappy loopholes in the system.

>>88372925
For the lulz. Kanata is the last one laughing so what's to hate? The guy could have woken up that day and told himself 'maybe I'll stop being a prick for a second'
He tested her and got an ass whooping

>>88376649
>Shiori
Never actually collabed with males, extended GFE until it became clear she’d get stabbed if she kept doing it
>ERB
No one cares about her
>Ame
Everyone took her advice to heart and stopped watching her
>Fauna
Only her simps and (you) still actively give a shit about defending or prosecuting her for it, everyone else saw her true colors and either moved on or reduced their level of engagement accordingly.

>>88374580
America is the land of no house and double jobs, unless you come from money then your social circles consist of ass holes ans dicks.

>>88376649
Unicucks have no standards or morals and will ignore heinous shit they usually insult vtubers for when convenient.

>>88376968
>heinous shit
What's heinous about >>88376062

>>88376932
Welcome to the world outside of your tiny hipster bubble. It’s like that pretty much everywhere.

>>88376998
Not really. Every day of my life I thank God for being German.

>>88376986
Knowing you get big money bags from people who buy into your fantasy, breaking it so you can feel good about yourself and still getting their money anyway because they’re just as infatuated as before but are muzzled by guilt and inadequacy.

>>88374368
no but poster's financials die

>>88377027
Yeah, you get raped by browns on the streets and deal with robotic schizoids at work instead.

>>88376818
proof? this story is from mf connor, isn't it? even from this POS month it's just a request to google to take down the review, nothing about suing. no need to talk further, this proves what kind of person you are, which is not worth to argue

>>88372925
Fpbp

>>88377077
Are you going to compare the amount of browns we have with the amount you have in the US? Because it's not going to look pretty for you

Saving this thread for the next time a non-holo vtuber takes action against someone harassing/insulting them and the holoboard call them a cunt for it.

>>88377165
Not from the US, you retarded islamonazi

Unicorns don't watch Fauna doe

>>88377491
Oh I'm suuure you aren't, Johnson

>>88377484
You can just pick any thread right now defending Doki for why siding with millionaires over revenue jeopardizing criticism is hypocrisy.

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>>88376062
hello, still seething faunaschizo?

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>>88372925
fpbp

>>88374731
eh the japanese love killing themselves, always have

>>88376062
get a job

What the hell happened to the internet? How has it come to the point where people are defending suing (and winning) against random bullshit online, and doubly so how are people here on 4chan of all places defending it. Fuck all these little faggot zoomers who use this shit all the time, fuck all the corporate retards who hijacked the internet in the 10's, fuck the general public for only now deciding to use the internet because it's ease of access.

>>88378423
No one cares about freedom of speech anymore, bozo.
That shit is an idealistic relic of the past.
We're now figuring out how to fuck over others without fucking ourselves over in the process and have been for a decade or so.

>>88378423
Reddit

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>>88376687
>>88378423

>>88378423
Freedom costs a buck o' five

>>88378423
>>88378465
Samefag
You tried real hard to not make it obvious by jumping lines on the second post too

Since when did Kanata get antis?

>>88378671
since day 1

>>88372826
this thing where you literally can be sued for garden variety anonymous shitposts online is basically a Japan deal vs the West. so no, according to our own laws, it isn't right. in Japan you can be successfully sued for slander even if what you're saying is completely true. that definition doesn't apply to here (the US for me).

I like Kanata but I gotta say I don't like this. being butthurt someone doesn't like you isn't an argument for a court case.

>>88372826
normally no but
>skkr
so yes

>>88378577
I think your post perfectly summarizes the state of online discourse right now.
I can't remember the last time I wasn't accused of being bad faith or samefagging or being a horrible person or whatever, it's always just meta-discussions now, which is why no discussions can actually take place.

>>88378882
That's just this board (and /v/) because it's downstream of twitter. As sad as that is.

>>88372826
>sukikira user
abso fucking lutely

>>88372925
fpbp
>>88373708
harassment is against the law in any democracy, kid

>>88372826
Bruh all cover did was send this guy a cease and desist letter and threatened to sue if he did not pay a fine of about 7000. Even the claims about the fine are suspect. Hell, even if they sue its not like they'll necessarily win.

If you want some life ruining shit look what Nintendo did to Gary bowser.

>>88378423
>4chan
/vt/ is reddit-lite

>>88379067
>Hell, even if they sue its not like they'll necessarily win.
otakuusamagazine.com/japanese-court-sides-with-vtuber-in-defamation-case/

>>88378423
I don't think what Kanata did should be defended at all but I still think the faggot kinda deserved it.

t. non-holofag.

>>88379180
And? Did you forget that one time anycolor lost a lawsuit against a dramatuber.

>>88379269
do you know why? do your rep, i won't spoonfeed this old shit

>>88373245
*eats your ass*

>>88378423
People have become too comfortable with being assholes openly online. When it was contained to places like somethingawful and here things were a little better, but now its like everywhere is 4chan so there has to be some push back lest internet discourse die for good.

>>88378423
>4chan is a monolith and every board is /pol/
I like kanata, why should I give a shit about some faggot anti

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>>88378423
I’m not someone who immediately swoons over or feels an irresistible urge to defend celebrities of any kind, but some people have been normalizing being shitty for no reason a bit too much. Like, when brutal harassment is shrugged off as ‘hey, it was just a joke’ you know you’ve lost touch with how real humans interact.

>inb4 its just an ASCII no need to get your panties in a twist
The number real life actual schizo attacks in Japan that were dismissed as harmless tomfoolery have proven that you can never be too careful. The same thing is happening now in US high schools where even making a crack about shooting up your school can lead to an investigation, and for good reason too since the authorities let warning signs slip and escalate because they were deemed "harmless."

>>88372826
There is no way this is his first offense, right? Just the last one he got fucked for? I guess we wouldn't know.

>>88373851
Without free speech there is no Democracy. And yes, free speech mean you can say anything without consequences. That's exactly what it is.
I know to leftoids this is something that is incredibly hard to comprehend since most of you have lived most of your lives under censorship but truth is most countries that are democratic are fake. Places like Germany or Britain where you get arrested for denying the Holocaust or writing an offensive Facebook post against immigrants are not a democracy. They live under real and actual Fascism and don't even realize it.

>>88379300
>do you know why?
Yes, and they still lost anon, kek. JP courts are retarded, but it's not like every single case of purported slander ends in the corpo winning.

>>88379483
Go shout "fire" in a crowded theater. Or better yet yell "bomb" in the middle of an airport.

>>88379475
you think shitposter just post once and stop?

>>88379547
>Creating a real life threat of a mass stampede that kills people in a crowded space is the exact same as someone sharing an opinion on their own account that hurts your fee-fees.
You really are a fucing moron.

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>It's ok to deal out excessive punishment for a minor offense if the minor offense really annoys me

>>88378041
Cute art but can't find the artist, happen to remember who drew that?

>>88379620
See >>88379613 you retarded snowflake.

>>88379613
>online harassment is not real and has no real life consequences
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hana_Kimura

Fyi depicting a grave with a living persons name on it alone goes far beyond "mocking" and in some countries is been seen as a direct threat on that persons life. The "opinion" that the dude was sharing was that Kanata should die and he would piss on her grave.

>>88379586
That's what I'm saying. The retard probably went on an anti spree, and got shafted since he doesn't know when to stop.

>>88379670
OP pic is him peeing on her grave, that sound very life threatening to me

>>88372826
Good job Kanata and Cover, destroy all antis.

>>88379483
Too many people getting too comfortable or overly-righteous about openly being assholes online, honestly.

I’m all for freedom of speech and whatever—do what you want, be who you want—but I’m not going to cry on your behalf when you get smacked down for harassing people and wishing death upon others for shits n’ gigs.

They made their bed, now they gotta’ lie in it. Bowomp.

>>88379670
No, you are the retarded snowflake kek. "Free speech", as implemented by the only country that has anything close to what you retard "absolutists" want, only extends so far as government restrictions. I, as a private business owner, can kick you the fuck out for literally any reason and this is not a violation of your "free speech" rights. You are an autistic child who doesn't understand how the world works lmfao.

>>88379356
I think there's a bit of a Dark Knight le joker argument to be made that on the inside, everyone is some shithead, although not a complete psycho like him. what we've seen on 4chan all this time is that on the inside, a lot of people are a lot nastier than they put forward in public in every way, it's just there was common decency and decorum in public expected to stop it. however I dunno if that's actually-new. the society we have today would be considered ultra pussies by like medieval societies where they executed people with the blood eagle or hung their heads on pikes for slandering the king or whatever. I guess we just assumed we'd always just keep getting more polite until we get a Star Trek-like society, but that takes conscious effort to maintain in reality and we can fall back in civility if we're not careful.

>>88379644
https://x.com/michimichi20121/status/1660948686476570624/photo/1

>>88379729
G.I.F.T has been a thing since the birth of the internet and it's to blame for people getting comfortable with flaming and trolling people online. That and a society that rewards "clout" to whoever can be the biggest and most audacious jerks. I used to think that internet trolling would drop dramatically if everyone had their social details attached to everything they did online, but now I'm not so sure.

>>88379837
Thanks bro!

>>88372826
Is blocking people really so hard for japanese snowflakes and their little bitch supporters?

>>88379483
are you retarded? "free of speech without consequences" does not exist anywhere, because a society with it would be completely non-functional. You cannot be fraudulent and then just say "but muh free speech" and expect to get away with it. Another thing you seem to misunderstand, is kanata also has the freedom to act. She is perfectly within HER right to say that "this is causing me harm, I would like for them to stop/be reprimanded". What the happens is this thing called a "court" gets involved. They then decide whether any damage has actually occurred and make a ruling in accordance with those findings.

>>88380185
>She is perfectly within HER right to say that "this is causing me harm, I would like for them to stop/be reprimanded"
Yes, and then a real court in a real country would say
>No real harm was caused to you or your finances, your supposed mental state is not real harm, you get nothing you fucking grifter.
And "fraud" is a completely different category like causing the threat of a stampede where people could be actually harmed or killed, which was already discussed in this thread.

>>88380288
>Yes, and then a real court in a real country would say
>No real harm was caused to you or your finances, your supposed mental state is not real harm, you get nothing you fucking grifter.
now you're just being a schizo and making things up in your mind.

>>88380288
>which was already discussed in this thread
And you got BTFO as a result KEK. You can move the goalpost as for as you want, you'll still never make the kick.

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>>88380288
>free speech mean you can say anything without consequences
>Oh, but actually things like libel, fraud, defamation, calls to action etc. don't count
ogey

>>88372826
i dont even like hololive but yes it perfectly is dont fuck around if you dont want to find out

>>88380616
t. pissbaby.

>>88380634
>t. pissbaby.

>>88373708
>One of the prerequisites to democracy is being able to form your thoughts without being observed or judged
Objectively a false statement. In Athens, votes were public knowledge

>>88372826
No, of course not. How is this even a question.

>>88380682
In Athens, only male citizen over a certain age were allowed to vote, too. So maybe find a better paragon to to fall back on when trying to defend democracy.

>>88380829
I'm not defending democracy. I'm stating that the first democracy in history literally did not prescribe to the 'prerequisite' of thoughts without being observed or judged.

>>88380829
>In Athens, only male citizen over a certain age were allowed to vote,
>maybe find a better paragon to to fall back on when trying to defend democracy.
huh? Athens did democracy better then.

>>88380084
>Is blocking people really so hard for japanese snowflakes and their little bitch supporters?
Yes, because then they couldn't see the mean comment and claim the mean comment was causing them not to work. The Japanese are dishonest to the core.

So to be clear this was a case of targeted harassment?

>>88380994
If you haven't noticed anon, nobody knows in this thread and they don't care if it was targeted or not, they will defend thew lawsuit because a blue dorito was involved alone.

>>88372826
holobronies were crying when Ironmouse did the same thing.

>>88381063
So you defend ironwhore back then and think anyone cares about your opinion now?

>>88372826
no, but in Japan you can sue and win slander lawsuit

>>88381100
stop crying and dry your tears

>>88381103
But how was she slandered?

>>88381043
So it was, then

>>88381063
And mikenigger

>>88381141
In Japan, any alteration to your public perception is slander even if it's true. If you saw someone having an affair, had evidence of it and you post it on the net if he sues you he'll win. that's slander in Japan.

>>88373851
yup

>>88381236
>any alteration to your public perception is slander
Yes, but watering the ground with nutrients is actually not saying anything about her as a person. Maybe it is saying something about how he feels about her, but nothing directed to her personally as an insult or claiming anything about her.

>>88381340
>nothing directed to her personally as an insult

well now you’re just being silly

>>88376687
>Niji
They're a paper tiger. What can they do? They can't nail down False, the biggest anti-niji propagator, what could they do against randos on /here/ and on Twatter?

>>88373708
>>88373851
>>88379483
>>88380288
Freedom of speech is observed by both parties here. Neither Kanata not that retard are in prison. Freedom of speech doesn't protect from social consequences, only from legal ones.
Buncha retards.

>>88372826
what happen here

>>88381420
I think the main problem here is any form of rudeness directed to someone is being conflated with a form of illegal slander. And if literally everything is slander then that means the Japanese legal system is pretty fucked up at setting up reasonable boundaries to rpevent frivilous lawsuits.

>>88381499
>Freedom of speech doesn't protect from social consequences, only from legal ones.
And a lawsuit being easily successful like this is the very definition of undermining freedom of speech using legal means, you fucking retard.

>>88379483
If you are in my house, you live by my rules. Free Speech is for the street, not someone's business enterprise.

Absolutely fuck off.

>>88379967
quoting penny arcade to zoomers is like telling them to read a bible. you're doing it for you.

꒰(# °ὤ° )꒱こいつは餞別だクソ野郎!
`/ ＼
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ヽ ＼_ ｡ﾟ/ ﾟ｡ﾟ:｡:｡ｼﾞｮﾎﾞﾎﾞﾎﾞﾎﾞ
`/＼_ﾝ∩ｿ＼ ﾟ｡:ﾟ:｡R.I.P.
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>>88379967
4chan allows me to be ~freaky~, but not abusive. I think it just lets you be who you already are yet won’t be to avoid social ostracism. If your first instinct when you’re anonymous is to be an asshole, that’s on you, not the human race

>>88381595
Someone hurt Kanata's feelings so she's suing them.

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>>88381753
Don't delete this anon, your fuckup is hilarious kek

>>88381804
kek he actually having a melty.

>>88381674
>If you are in my house, you live by my rules. Free Speech is for the street, not someone's business enterprise.
And did the person who owns the site where this was posted ask for it to be taken down, or start a lawsuit over it? No, they didn't? Then it wasn't posted in Kanata's house or any of Cover's business by your definition.

>>88381794
ok good I like her

sukikira is an atrocious website where you can upvote or downvote people; It's extremely heinous and negative. A reminder that the Japanese society is fuck up and shouldn't be envied.

The anti-free speech fags keep making really bad arguments and keep getting owned, you love to see it.

>haha harassing vtubers is based!
>haha slandering vtubers is based!
>haha doxxing vtubers is based!
>w-what?! ASCII art?!?! AAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE

>>88372826
Yes.

>>88381970
I'm not familiar with this site, is this another nyfco clone?

Why do vtubers like lawsuits so much? Also, anything Kanata does is OK.

>>88378041
>teehee I beat off to this cartoon girl, that means she can ruin people’s lives with bogus charges anytime

>>88382054
no, it is not about doxing and it is much more mainstream. you can upvote or downvote anyone and leave a positive or negative comment. for example, mikeneko has 80% of downvotes

https://suki-kira.com/people/result/%E3%81%BF%E3%81%91%E3%81%AD%E3%81%93%20(%E9%85%8D%E4%BF%A1%E8%80%85)

>>88382011
>all schizoid behavior is the same
>no dissent against our digital goddesses allowed

>>88382011
I feel like you’ve combined two very different subgroups in your head

>>88372826
Don't talk the talk if you can't walk the walk

>>88382111
They need to leave her alone. She's not hurting anyone

>>88381790
>If your first instinct when you’re anonymous is to be an asshole, that’s on you, not the human race
Basically. Nothing about being anonymous means you now have to be a mean shitty angry personality. Apparently quite a few people really are that but know better than to rant like lunatics IRL and abuse anonymity as a stand in for the therapy they need. Not even talking about the average anon here or on 4chan in general, but the schizos who literally think the point of here is to be a rude dipshit and try to gaslight everyone that that's all this site is good for.

Funny enough it must be a tiny minority abusing anonymity and they are in reality not liked by basically anyone but think they are cool or somehow righteous in what they do. Like does anyone actually like bvtm for example? Seems clearly hated by like 99.9% of the board. If it was possible to electrocute someone over the internet he'd be a pile of ash in his chair by now. That is the type of person who thinks as long as nobody is physically strangling him or chopping his hands off so he can't use a computer, then he is 'winning' at something by doing what he does. He doesn't get that no he isn't the cool kid at school here, he is the bratty kid picking his boss in the corner that nobody would pick for their sports team or sit with in the cafeteria. Anonymity hides this fact from him, and he doesn't get it.

>>88382301
Promo’s good.

>>88382301
Also phone typo
>**He is the bratty kid picking his nose

>>88378423
3 things happened:

1 - SEA
2 - Latin America
3 - New generations have been successfully groomed into corporate adoration

>>88382301
Uh, ok then

>>88381906
>The nijinigger cries out in pain as it strikes you

>>88382301
>long-winded bitching about trolls
>fantasizes about mutilation and electrocution
Someone needs therapy

I want to sue everyone who hurts my feelings for everything they're worth and get treated like a hero for doing it
How do I achieve this

>>88378423
shit people thought internet will be their lawless playground to do bad. enough. we will not suffer any longer from your torments

>the board that literally cheers when vtubers get sexually assaulted is getting triggered by ASCII art
can't make this shit up

>>88381134
>ESL (You)ing grammatically correct sentences
>pag pag times
Projecting Holomonkey.

>>88382484
I feel like you’ve combined two very different subgroups in your head

>>88382501
>Holomonkey
really can't have a good discussion with pagpag around. thread was good while it lasted.

>>88382011
Yes, holocucks are thin skinned hypocrites. Anyone long enough on this board realized this

>>88382636
>bait thread
>good discussion
Not beating the SEA allegations.

>>88379614
Additionally:
>it's ok when I do it tho

>>88381970
>where you can upvote or downvote people
So basically approval ratings?

>>88379356
>openly online
NTA but the post in the OP letter came from 5chan, aka a japanese "anonymous imageboard" (your IP is shown)
It's not like he went directly to twitter or any other public website.

>>88382874
not really.

>>88382919
His post was rather innocuous compared to what is being posted here on a daily basis.

>>88382484
You want to clarify this? What sexual assault?

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>>88372826
shitposters deserve to get shit on, yes

>>88373851
Yes.

>>88382104
this but unironically

>>88374580
The lack of self-awareness is insane, burgerbro

>>88375567
>Explain why South Korea has one of the highest suicide rates then.
Because it's a neofeudal shithole run by like 4 corporations that control everything and is definite proof that totalitarianism isn't the issue but being discount-chinese is?

>>88374731
>No country with a suicide rate as high as Japan
It's not that high.

>>88374731
I can't believe some dickhead youtubers were able to make the Japan suicide meme into their entire culture.
>Oh no! They have 17/100k suicides instead of the glorious US of A where we only have 15/100k suicides. See how much better we are? Oh don't look at South Korea with fucking 25/100k

I wish Cover would sue some of the schizos on this site too

>>88373851
That’s right you communist piece of shit.

>88381134
>88382636
obsessed mindbroken schizo

>>88373851
OUR GOD GIVEN RIGHT
GOD BLESS AMERICA

>>88372826
>noooo! He's posting mean tweets :(

>>88375518
>Imagine if Mcdonalds Sued your entire family linage for millions over making fun of them on /ck/?
It's more like McDonalds suing you for harassing one of their employees

Thanks, I will now anti kanata for the rest of my life

>>88373708
>>88379483
Your "free speech" ends where it harms others, retarded child.

I just want to hug her

>>88385149
So what did he harm by posting an ASCII of him pissing on her grave? Her feelings? I can understand if it was a death threat, but that's just a shitpost

>>88385318
Okay, let’s think
>grave of an alive person
Implication: wants her dead, would be happy if she was dead
>pissing on it
Further reinforcement of that

>>88382256
Besides her fans

Deaf bitch got her feelings hort, need money to get better

>>88382919
The thing about doing a 5ch IP check is that I believe you're given a full post history of the IP
In other words, if he's posting this sort of shit, he's probably also been rrating like mad about her for months.

>>88385375
An implication isn't a threat, he didn't say that he would physically harm her directly

>>88385556
You're such a retarded child.
You need to be harassed yourself because you clearly lack empathy or imagination.

>>88372826
If you can't take a mean joke you shouldn't be in a public facing job.

>>88382427
Become a HoloJP, tank your brand and wait until one of your detractors gets colorful with his grudgeposting.

>>88385375
Kanata is a cartoon, you’d only have a sliver of a point if he posted a grave with the RM’s name on it.

>>88372826
kanata is a stuck up bitch i knew it

>>88385674
Try not to get emotional and understand where I'm coming from. Which one is worse:
>I hope you die
or
>I'm going to kill you
Both are harassment but one clearly has the possibility of escalating into a real danger to your life. To sue someone over an online post without any indication of direct violence is baffling.

>>88386022
They could be the same message. JP law allows the lawsuit and she's not the first one to sue an anti.

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I don't think anons are getting just how fucked up this I on Kanata part.
Imagine this:
>be anon on 4chan
>reply to another anon with a meme image suggestive he kill himself
>2nd anon gets a lawyer to force hiromoot to hand over the first anon's IP, finds out his personal info, and decides to sue him for everything
>1st anon now has to be publically shamed and have his life possibly ruined over posting a meme image that suggests 2nd anons an heros
That's literally what's happened in the OP but replace 4chan and 2nd anon with 5chan and Katana.
/vt/ has a strange problem where they'll let their oshi get away with anything, even if it goes against their own morals and beliefs.
Kanata is a great chuuba but she 100% deserves to be called the fuck out here. This is ridiculous

>>88372826
No, this is a fight between two emotionally stunted children except one has alot of money and the power to escalate, I have no respect for either party. Also, If I was in a similar position then depressed Japanese weirdos with nothing to lose would be the last type of person I want to unnecessarily escalate with.

>>88385556
If I sent you an AI generated hyper-realistic photo of you with your limbs chopped off, you wouldn't take that as a threat?

>>88376482
>in hindsight
If you ever thought there was an issue with what was said then you have serious issues

>>88386343
Don't tell people to kill themselves then, retard.

>>88372826
yes, it's also funny as hell. I hope the guy enjoys crying himself to sleep in his cardboard box

>>88386343
Edgy bantering with another anon within this message board is different from posting what could be constituted as a threat to a public figure off-site.

>>88372925
fpbp
consequences. every day you get to choose to be a decent person or a shitty person, and sometimes when you choose the latter it bites you on the ass.

>>88386343
*crack knuckles*
*pull up pants*
Kill yourself, fag.

>>88386665
You're being disingenuous if you think your hypothetical and what he is being sued for are comparable

i realize the internet has destroyed people's ability to simply not constantly voice their opinions BUT, you know when you dislike someone or something you can just not express it.
its that easy.

>>88387029
I never said I would harm you directly. I'm just having a laugh.

>>88386799
You do no the original post in the letter came from 5chan right? That's not exactly an open direct social media website like Facebook or X

>>88386343
Don't be such a heckin meanie on the internet then chuddywuddy

>>88386022
Just because second one is worse doesn't mean first one is okay. That's what you're failing to understand.

I bet all the fags defending Kanata do worse than what that guy did on a daily basis, pretty funny to read this thread when the catalog is 95% anti posts ranging from disdainful to extremely vicious with some of you even bringing your hate to twitter or youtube.

>>88387111
I never said what he posted was not harassment though? What I disagree with is the legal escalation

>>88386343
We have been flooded with normalfags since 2010 or so, and the 2016 elections didn't do us any favours either.

We can't even spam gore or cp anymore to make things right either, and with our awful mods who are basically glorified corpo drones doing it for free, the site is beyond saving.

>>88387098
5ch (and this place for a matter of fact) are not super secret internet clubs. Anyone can post shit on a message board, more so now that threads breaking containment is looked upon as normal. Hell, people have made threats before on the chans like Tarrant on infinitychan, so it'd be wise to take posts like that as potential threats.

i bet all the people who think kanata was wrong are the ones who post that shit constantly and they just got a little tingle of fear when they remembered that things they say can have consequences

>>88386343
>be anon
Right. I'm an anon. My identity isn't out there for people to threaten.
Also, this is old news and we already discussed it here.

>>88372826
the only imoral thing happening is that not enough schizo virgins are getting concrete life lessons like this

>>88387200
>we
Speak for yourself gore poster. You deserve each ban you get, and if anything we, as in actual vtuber fans, haven't gatekept this board enough to keep you out

>>88387066
Now imagine a politician saying this

>>88387171
posting worse stuff is normalized on much of the english speaking internet even normie sites like twitter
I would be surprised if anyone here is actually deserving of the high horse they place themselves on

>>88379475
Without any doubt, it's exhibit 3 of 192.

>>88387842
Is that a fact or are you just saying some random big number? Because that completely changes the picture.

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ITT: it's okay to slander
bitch just change the fucking stream instead of going rent free

>>88388451
>image
um sir is this a death threat?

>>88388451
Was that a threat on my life? Where's the number for my lawyer!