KIARA CONFIRMS GURA GRADUATING
>KIARA CONFIRMS GURA GRADUATING
KIARA CONFIRMS GURA GRADUATING
>KIARA CONFIRMS GURA GRADUATING
KIARA CONFIRMS GURA GRADUATING
>KIARA CONFIRMS GURA GRADUATING
KIARA CONFIRMS GURA GRADUATING

If the loudmouthed retard would shut the fuck up and think for a second maybe more people would like her. Not a surprise she's ostracized and kept at arm's length when she's untrustworthy.

too long didn't watch

>>88443334
I need a transcription. Preferably a faithful one and not edited.

>>88443451
im okay with gura graduating honestly, she has not done much in hololive for years already, so letting her go would be better for everyone. but in the video, she said "it sucks to be me right now" if its about gura graduating why would it sucks to her?

>>88443334
What are Kiara's worst fears?

>>88443334
The mistake you made anon is that you actually post receipt, receipt that destroyed the narrative directly

How do I know?
>It's been going on for a while and today just confirmed whatever fear she has
>IT SUCKS TO BE HER
If she is talking about graduation, WHY would she say this line above? Simple answer. The fear is that her live concert or whatever something big she planned for the future got fucked, and it will be either delayed or outright cancelled. But she re-affirmed to her chickens that things will eventually be okay

Thanks for hearing my Ted talk. Hopefully this will be the start of this shit thread's downfall to nothingburger irrelevancy

>>88443584
Because women are selfish and only think about themselves. She's thinking 'how can I make this about myself'

>>88443587
Gura graduating. She won't be able to leech off her success anymore.

>>88443334
>a realization or discovery
>has been going on for a while
with how vague it is she might just have found out about her 'friends' in niji bullying a co-worker to suicide or just how shitty anycolor is as a company in general

>>88443334
2 more weeks

>>88443707
This. What she said here is the biggest hint.

this holoan FUD catalog spam is kind of embarrassing

>>88443334
>old bait thread still up
>SHIT, I CAN GET SOME FREE (YOU)S IF I REPOST IT HERE

>>88443693
she can do the ultimate last time totally will never see gura again tears stream tho, expert her to milk it harder that ames graduation

I see the jabbering SEA monkey's finally found this clip.

>>88443334
i had forgotten how annoying kiaras voice was when talking more casually and not putting it on the idol voice

>>88443844
Next you're gonna tell me it's like 2 years old

>>88443587
One of her cats dying

>>88443880
No I'm just surprised it took you fucking fags 2 days to notice it. Did you have a double shift at the sweat-shop or something?

>>88443994
>you fucking fags
Anon I'm a random fucking bystander, get your cock back in your pants

>>88443852
It is literally the exact opposite, but okay, rock on

>>88443334
brought to you by brown vtuber memes

>>88443334
Going back to catalog after getting owned schizo?
>>88443837

>>88443852
this is honestly much better, I can't stand her highpitch

>>88443587
Secretly being disliked by almost the entirety of myth and council and being excluded behind her back outside of collabs she wrangles people into.
She'll have known this in the back of her mind since the very beginning but only just now having some confirmation would fit the quote.

>>88444110
It's her realizing Ame isn't coming back but watch as the entire thread ignores the proof and this shit hits bump limit.

>>88444374
Wishful thinking at it’s finest.

>>88443693
She hasn’t done that since like year 1, she barely even talks to gura, if anything, the more likely explanation is that calli is graduating cause kiara is actually friends with her

>>88443334
high doob and aquu numbers showing you can make it without hololive?

>>88444110
wtf are KFPs doing in /#/? go back to /wawa/

>>88444438
I'll take this rrat one step further, it's Kiara finding out Ame never actually liked her but was too much of a doormat to ever say no.

>>88444496
ok thats funny whenever i point out that kiara used mori for yuribait people show up saying mori isnt that big of a deal to her lol, and besides look at what she did with ame of course shes gonna shed a million tears for the most famous holo in EN

>>88444685
It’s almost as if there’s more then one person on this board and people can have multiple different opinions that don’t necessarily align with one another… who woulda thought?

>>88443791
It's really, really been ramping up lately.

>>88443334
Apocalyptic post

>>88443334
Wait, why would gura graduating be a fear?
You know what would be a fear? Finding out your friends aren't exactly what you thought they were. I wouldn't be surprised if this was doki related, considering all the time she's spent with Mint lately.

>>88443334
Why is she being so vague?
There's nothing on her alt either.

>>88443334
I wish she would just spell it the fuck out instead of always being so fucking vague. It's so annoying.

>>88443852
you must have your wires crossed up
look at her early streams like

>>88445828
thats what i always say and then KFPschizos get mad for implying she ever needed someone to get numbah up

>>88445321 (me)
actually, doesn't this type of wording sound eerily similar to notPomu's "traumatic" twitter space from way back?
>notpomu discovered something about [pomus] previous workplace that left her sort of traumatized.
>kiara realized something that has been around for a long time that she was fearing about but ignored
Might be a stretch, though, but it's like 5 am and I haven't slept.

>>88445365
Cause she knew it would get people to talk about her ;)

>>88445942
meant for
>>88444685

>>88443334
This is Kiara
It's just something relating to herself that she's blowing out of proportion

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>>88443334
She sounds like Pomu sounded after she left niji

>it’s about gura graduating
>NO it’s about the niji bullies
>MY schizo rrat is the correct one
>no MY schizo rrat is the correct one

>>88444569
Cause those two obviously did it without hololive, wtf is this braindead logic? It like that Doki bullshit of "people coming just for her". They'd all be vaguely known 2-3views without their corpo time, no matter how bad it was in Niji case.

>>88443334
>she asks for perms for a game, gets rejected
>other girls and even the homos get perms and are able to play
that's all

Great, the Kiaraschizo got out of global

>>88446140
She's upset that COVER told her that they were never going to hire Pomu.

There that's my Rrat.

We know she's wanted Pomu in for a long time, and they've finally confirmed it's never happening.

>>88444569
I'm gonna be honest. Those numbers just showed how behind indie are compared to Holo, 10 years to have a talent big as Aqua or Ame and they failed again and again.

as someone who watches Kiara since debut: Kiara has stated several times in the past her greatest fear is that friends lie to her or that friends are snakes etc., a recurring theme for her actually

my guess is, that since she said she realized "it" a few days ago, that it is about Ames soft graduation.
Maybe she was left in the dark about what Ame had planned and felt betrayed, that Ame does not trust her or something along those lines.
Her talking around it not being anything around where she is, her health or "irl stuff" pretty much confirms it is either about hololive or some online drama.

also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjBZzYN3aAs

>>88446473
They have talent as big as Ame, just wait for the hype to calm down. Aqua comparison is just retarded, yeah, no shit it's hard to compete with one of the industry leaders.

>it is kind of a blessing in disguise
>i felt like i could use that extra time at home instead of rushing to Japan again in Novemeber

so just some 3d stuff that got cancelled or delayed
nothing too dramatic

>>88443334
why is the rigging and the model in general so fucking bad? isn't cover worth half a billion dollars?

>>88446473
Low view shitters are shitters for a reason.

>>88446794
because Kiara always streams with dimmed light and likes to sit sideways
to this day, she does not understand how vtubing works

>>88443334
stupid bitch

>blessing in disguise
this practically rules out graduation or clique shit off the bat unless you believe Kiara is a psychotic bitch

>>88446586
its 100 about ame they told her she was gonna soft graduate in the sense she'll be in merch and maybe some events a few times a year, thats why she said we'll seen her eventually, and ame didnt trust her to tell her what was actually happening cause theyre not close like that which is likely fucking with her perception of herself and her relationships

>>88446874
blessing in disguise in the sense that shes happy ames not fucking off for real and is gonna do her own thing and seems happy about it rather that only get to see her like 5 times a year, but it still hurts

>>88446975
this is not about ame, you're trying to force what you want the interpretation to be instead of trying to interpret what is actually said

>>88446874
>>88446975
Blessing in disguise is about her concert being delayed, which is a separate thing. How is English comprehension so bad here?

>>88446874
the blessing in disguise part is a different topic. no idea why the clip is not shortened. this is about a trip to japan in novemeber that got cancelled. Kiara likes to ramble, so it is sometimes difficult to differentiate when she starts a new topic.

>>88447124
Because we have a very high population of street shitters and pagpag eaters.

>>88443334
I'm genuinely afraid that the other EN girls will see how much fun Ame is having doing stuff on her own and quit. I don't really care about their happiness, maintaining the integrity of and holding the line for HoloEN is the greater good. It's fucked that they don't put the company first, the one that made them in the first place.

>>88447333
>how much fun Ame is having doing stuff on her own
>doing stuff on her own
>doing stuff
lol

Can't believe Hololive is fucking dead, again

>>88447333
I know you're trolling, but I always laugh at how holoan cannot seem to concieve that people join hololive because they like what it has to offer and don't mind that they can't do some things.
Like if I was sponsored by Adidas and they didn't want me using Nike gear, I would not lose sleep over that loss of freedom. I find the compensation adequate, and the gear won't hinder my performance. Shouldn't be so hard to understand.
Holoan look at shit way too cynically but also aren't thinking things through well enough, they see people like Suisei and Miko, see their numbers, and wonder why the don't just strike out on their own. Not realizing they actually like the box and the shit Cover can do for them. Same thing with the EN girls and thinking they all want to be like lazy twitch streamers and that they don't want to actually do music and idol stuff.
If hololive was in the gutter and the talents were miserable, they may have an argument, but as it is, antis just look like dumbfucks.

>>88443334
>Absolute vaguetalk
/vt/ used to have good rrat finders, now it’s all faggots clipping random shit and screaming like trannies.

>>88443334
what was cut from the clip? there's a jump that may have important context cut out.

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>>88446586
nah, never truly becoming a singing idol is Kiara's worst fear
>It's been going on for a while
yeah, still makes sense

I'm beginning think that they're phasing out Myth. That's why Ame jumped ship while she could.

>>88448412
See >>88444110

>>88443587
that god stops making her antis ridiculous

>>88443334
can't open catbox. tldr pls

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>>88448929

>>88443334
Kiara's voice is actually hot when she speaks like this.

so what i understand is
>it's not kiara related
>it's not physical health related
>it's not IRL related
>it's not delayed trip related
>kiara learned about it a couple days ago, but it was going on for a long time
...
GURA IS GRADUATING CONFIRMED, LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>88448929
it's a nothingburger

>>88443584
because what she actually meant was "it sucks to be ME ME ME"

i could believe Gura thought she was in the best position, but if she's been observant of Aqua recently, she knows she can do the same

>>88443707
>a realization or discovery
>has been going on for a while
could easily be how her genmates were planning to leave for a while, but didn't tell her.

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>>88443334
Noooooo

>>88443334
and nothing of value is lost

>>88449159
how can you hear "it was going on for a long time" and think graduation?
a decision doesn't go on for a long time, and if you want to twist it into an interpretation like Gura's behavior has gone on for a long time then it's incongruent with Kiara "discovering" it.
Not even mentioning how grads are announced to everyone.
I really have to wonder if you seaslurs even passed middle school english

>>88443456
>>88443574
>"my worst fears came true"
>me, myself is fine, nothing wrong with me, or my cats
>i just realized something terrible. and now i feel terrible. i want to stop stream but won't

no idea from there

>>88449322
Dooby's graduation was in the making for like a year

>>88449298
She Shoo be Doo Shoo Shoo be Dooby looking like that

>>88448819
Oh. So the most likely explanation is Ame.

>>88449389
yeah and they all knew for a while, kiara didn't doom about it. still, it's not the correct turn of phrase to use if you're referring to a graduation. There's not much point bringing up the arrangements since the discovery is the focal point in that. Kiara chose to emphasize how it was a continuous thing

>>88449322
my post was only half serious, but
>how can you hear "it was going on for a long time" and think graduation?
easily explainable if kiara suddenly learns that gura has been wanting to leave for a very long time.

>>88446586
holy fuck Ame is a piece of shit confirmed

>>88449508
ame told everyone, but gura being secretive and all didn't tell kiara and possibly others too. this hurt kiara. pretty logical explanation, if you ask me.

There's already a thread for this

>>88449553
sounds way too forced and affected, there's basically no reason for her to even bring gura thinking so for a long time at all, especially since it's a given if someone does want to leave. They don't just leave on a spur of the moment thought without thinking about it. Think about Ame's pov to compare.
Really, if we apply occam's razor it has to be something that was and still is continuing

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>>88449632
Why is holoEN so full of backstabbing bitches? It's unbelivable how bad this looks

>>88449508
You're assuming Kiara knew. Would you trust Kiara with a secret?

>>88449750
Kiara seems actually honest and dependable compared to the others

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Why is it okay to leak mengen content again and make an entire thread about it?

>>88449861
yeah linking mengen should be a bannable offence

>>88449851
Kiara also regularly overshares to her chat. She saw the dooby debut and realized it was over.

>>88449554
Ame literally invented being a piece of shit

>>88449632
pretty reaching, if you ask me.
there's a bunch of other more plausible explanations but jumping to graduation tells me you're trying to justify what you want to be the case in reverse order
>>88449750
you're making assumptions to try and justify what you want to believe in, trust me that's something you have to be careful about. How can you know either way? the best thing to do is to employ what takes the least leaps of logic to support.
Hell, it doesn't even make sense why the hell Kiara would even talk about an upcoming grad, they've always been tightlipped about this sort of shit all the time up until the critical moment. Management wouldn't let anyone say it and noone, not even Kiara, would risk repercussion for something like going wink wink nudge nudge about a grad anyway

>>88449979
Enough about Doki.

>>88447333
this would be me 2 years ago, but mah, they haven't improved since. fuck HoloEN management

>>88449900
Shalom

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>there's insane amounts of gossiping behind members' backs
>honest people like Kiara are left out
>Ame's real shittalk gets revealed to everyone
>Ame has to leave because it's suddenly common knowledge that she's a piece of shit
>Kiara reflects on the whole ordeal
*you are here*

>>88449508
Graduation is a singular event but if you phrase it as "Kiara just found out that Gura has been wanting to leave for a while" then that turns it into a continuous thing since she has not left yet

So in the end Kiara thought Ame would come back to myth stuff and Holofes stuff and gets slapped in the face by dooby's shade throwing
>They can keep my old uniform if they want! that damn thing!!
>Have to wait for this damn contract to be up
So yeah, she's not coming back, she hated her time in Holo and would rather be a normal tier streamer
Don't get me wrong, to each their own, but don't fucking give your coworkers some fucking hope.

>>88450570
if that's is about gura graduation, then why would she make it about herself in the end "its sucks to be me"

I believe Ame rrat

>>88450637
be more subtle next time

>>88450733
>>88443837
read nigga

>>88450570
>"Kiara just found out that Gura has been wanting to leave for a while"
My brother in christ Gura has been in "only stream slightly before and after events" mode for like a year now. How in the fuck would that be a surprise to anyone

>>88443334
What if Reine is the one graduating

>>88443334
looks like schizo conviently cut out the the part where she talks the time when she realized it, which is right after doobys debut and the shade shes thrown and that she doesnt seem to want to come back

>it was a couple days ago but

from the very start at 5minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0OWVcdZUzs

>just came back from massage, back hurt, body in pain
>im depressed, i mean im always depressed, but cant hide it right now
>unfortunately cant talk about exactly why im depressed,
l>ets just say recently i just made a realization or more or less discovery, but i didnt find an object no, but my worst fears got confirmed, no like one of my worst fears got confirmed
>im trying to not to be bothered too much by it but
>no, cats are ok, physically ok, not something here where i am or not something even irl related
i>t was a couple days ago but something that i realized one/couple day ago but something that has been going on for a very long time and that shocked me i just feel like shit right now
>but its ok but probably things are gonna be okay, just sucks to be me right now
>but it doesnt have to do with that thing either i was working on a live now its delayed too honestly thats kinda of a blessing in disguise i was gonna get so stressed out rushing to japan in november its just a bit of a waste we already have the 3d stage and set list, it has some nice gimmick that she thought of, winter themed, christmas themed, wants to try to do it next winter or maybe spring themed (...)

kys op tranny

>>88450776
What is this supposed to prove? It's just a transcript.

>>88451076
>calls someone else schizo
>wall of schizo rambling

>>88443334
Since when is she talking so low? I remembered her voice differently.

>>88451131
he's right

She always thought of Ame as a close friend but Ame couldn't think less of her, that's all kek

>>88451165
no you aren't, no matter how many times you try to post that and samefag

>>88451131
>transcipt
>"IS A WALL OF SCHIZO RAMBLING"
sorry that your gura rrat got destroyed, this is about Ame/Dooby Gura leaving is not a surprise

>>88443587
Not being the centre of attention for longer than 5 seconds

>>88451131
retardchama...

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>>88451195
Doesn't this just prove that Kiara has a big heart. She just want's to be clsoe friends with everyone while soulless husks like Ame are trying to make money

>>88446660
Really? Other than Ironmouse? Who?

>>88451263
Stop realizing things

>>88451226
>spoiler
That's actually the best argument against that rrat I've heard all thread. However it's definitely not about Ame either.

>>88451263
she's probably seething she can't pretend to be her number one fan and leech off her anymore

>>88451307
Filian and Vedal are both around Ironmouse's size (Ironmouse is not indie anyway).

>>88451343
>NOOOO MY DOOOBY COULD NEVER AIEEEE

>>88451343
>leech from a talent who barely streams
nigga?

>>88451396
>Ironmouse
>vedal sized
>>>filian sized
what are you smoking

>>88451343
>leech from an indie
>Leeching from someone that stream at least 80% less than you since 2 years ago
Let me guess, public school?

>>88449750
Weird angle, but Kiara knew about Ame's "graduation" like half a year in advance, she outright said it's why she wanted to get to work on the Myth one block streams.

>>88451461
I donno what level of schizophrenia you're on but all three of those people average around 8k.

>>88451554
Sure, the graduation. But did she know about dooby?

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>>88443334
Vagueshitting on stream and now KFP are too busy being a rrat slayer and doing damage control

>>88444110
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nah she’s in peak condition

>>88451602
Almost certainly, yeah. Even if Ame for some insane reason hadn't told anyone, the dooby account was active for a month before her debut, it wouldn't have been something Kiara only found out a couple days ago.

>>88451614
What damage control? Ame being autistic and failing at social interaction was a given since the last myth stream.

>>88449861
>Kurosanji organ's membership stream got leaked.
No one batted an eye.. multiple threads created, catalog became busy
But now, its a crime since its a Holo one? Get the fuck out of here

>>88445365
Because Japanese corpos and they're employees are always vague.

>>88451802
Holo board
Holo site

>>88451602
I mean, maybe? She followed Dooby around the time the rest of Myth did, which was before debut and before most other people including other holoEN talents not from Myth did. Though it seems kind of weird to go schizo over this in particular because while I don't think there is proof of her knowing about Dooby beforehand, I also think there is any proof of her NOT knowing about Dooby beforehand because all of it is private conversations.

>>88451145
Most JPs are also like that when you compare their old streams to recent ones. Doing high pitched anime voice gets tiring

>>88443587
Her nip stalker

>>88446402
Mint doesn't want to go there anyway.

>>88451759
>mentioning Ame while shitting on her
yeah Kiara is good. Ame is Bad.

>>88451802
Funnily enough, no one leaks Pomu or Mint's spicy members streams. They get talked about but only vaguely.

>>88451847
their*

>>88443334
This is fake. Orange chicken would always talk about herself in member stream

>>88451984
The only member stream that got leaked and got any relevance was Pomu's saying how Nijisanji fucked her over with a one in a lifetime opportunity because ''LMAO ECKS DEE'' and it was leaked by pomu herself

>>88451924
I'm not shitting on Ame, that was her whole gimmick at the end and i love her for that, yet being shit in social interaction would lead to this, since just like the rest of the thread says, isn't about not knowing about Dooby, but the debut itself made pretty clear that Ame won't come back.

>>88451984
A: Pomu's members streams are all made public except for the "once in a lifetime opportunity" one, it was delisted and privated.
B: As for Mint, there are no spicy member streams.

>>88451924
kfp literally can't mention kiara without shitting on another girl in the same breath

>>88451263
Nah, we know for a fact that she's a hardcore libtard, and that kind of people only use goodwill and kindness to satisfy their narcissism.

>>88452110
you fucking KFPiss! I didn't even mentioned Ame >>88451614

>>88452114
A: Pomu leaked that herself. When the stream originally aired people referenced it in /nijien/ but was never leaked.
B: In September Mint had a big rant in members about how she's never joining a corpo again, it never got leaked.

>>88452140
kek self-replying already, post your forced meme in the catalog, come on

>>88449861
To be fair, Kiara's membership streams get leaked a disproportionate amount compared to pretty much every other holoEN and hololive talent, atleast when it comes to here, outside of here it's probably Gura, who knows. But you don't really even need a membership, since her schizos will twist and shitpost about anything that seems like good material, and KFP will livepost pretty much every single one of Kiara's words. Pretty sure there even used to be a KFP who would write transcripts and summaries of Kiara's entire membership streams, though he stopped. So it's always a pain in that regard if Kiara vents to members in any way shape or form since one of her schizos who buys her membership will just clip it and have a bait thread out within 5 minutes.

>>88443587
She realized she is actually not lesbian and now craves cock after the ojisan embrace

kiara wouldn't doompost about a graduation in a member stream, this is something directly related to her.

>>88452175
Who speak like this except for gooner tranny discordfags?

>>88452223
I feel kinda bad for Kiara. Member streams should be between the fans and their oshi instead of drooling nijifags

>>88443587
the wrestling ring

wow ame sounds like a heartless bitch

>>88452294
KFP and niji are basically the same, just look at them in this thread

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Nothingburger general?
Nothingburger general.
I drifted away from Holo for a while but the hysterical hyenas camping the catalog never seem to provide evidence that it's OMG SOO BLACK no matter how many threads they fill.
Gimme a convincing TL;DR or shut up.

>>88452291
my bad KFPtards

>>88449508
>kiara didn't doom about it.
She literally went to a psychiatrist. We just didn't know it was because of Ame at that time.

>le KFP seething
yep, Kiaraschizo just wake up, he's latinx btw

>>88451556
holo numberfags dont know anything about the EN indie scene and assume mouse and doki are the big ones and must get huge numbah cause those are the two they know

>>88452385
It's so fucking tiresome

>>88452359
Yeah, you sure fit in 4chan.org, kiketranny

Kiara didn't get told because she does shit like this

>>88452438
how the fuck are you reversing this into Kiara's fault lmao?

>>88452216
I must have missed a Twitter space or something, because she never said anything like that overtly on a member stream.

>>88452216
>never joining a corpo again
Oh, girl who had traumatic experience with corpos is hesitant now to join one. It's not even bait material. Please, turn your catalog part of the brain off. Not worth leaking.

>>88452438
it's like an endless loop lmao, seethe about getting excluded from things > get excluded because of too much public seething

>>88452438
>Everything is Kiara's fault!!!!
Latinx egg, you're showing your IQ

>>88452294
None of it really escapes outside of here The only time I think it actually has is when Kiara accidentally said "nigga" that one time while reading lyrics to a song, so I don't think she or the KFP outside of here really care or even know what's happening in here. At the end of the day, it's just more Kiara shitposting to them on a board that already hates them in their minds.

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>>88452512
name two occasions

>>88452294
That's what she gets for hanging out with Luca's cocksleeve

>kiaraschizo seething at everyone calling out kiara
the fun begins now

>>88451714
>only one me
ruh roh eggbros

Be genuine with me, what is the shitposting angle going to be if it turns out to not be anything graduation related or anything that has to do with other members? What will the angle be if doesn't even have anything to do with hololive?

>>88452700
Kiara riling up drama for no reason as usual because mememe

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You know you can just check? If it's about Ame being a bitch, she wouldn't keep following her.

>>88443633
>Hopefully this will be the start of this shit thread's downfall to nothingburger irrelevancy
Incredibly optimistic take

>>88452508
Here's the /mint/ thread reacting to it.
>>83441803
"Never joining another corpo" is sort of a bad summary, (though that might be an implication), it's more like she absolutely hates the JP corpo atmosphere of being told what she can and can't do. There's even a point where someone suggests leaking it and everyone tells him to fuck off.

>>88452700
It'll be memoryholed same as the other 5 times a month this happens.
Remember when people were rrating that Mori would graduate after Holofes 2022?
Constantly?
Yeah.

>>88452734
>Kiara is the one riling up drama
>in a mengen
meds

>>88452347
>Kiara thinks the affiliate thing Ame did was to come back for fes or mythversaries
>finds out when dooby debuts and in her lore video that she ain't doing any of that, hated the idolshit and was waiting for ''that damn contract'' to be up so she can fuck off
Kiara's greatest fear is no ame ever again.
Will she appear in Holofes? probably her part is already done and the affiliate thing is a good excuse to use the footage, yeah, but this might be the last

>>88451849
bro she followed her after several other indies had already figured out, she even decided to follow some random indies and artists and hasnt given either mori or kiara a follow back, prolly cause of some corp autism saying you cant follow them

>>88452700
>it's not about health
>it's not about her cat
>it's not about anything irl
>it's not about a project getting canceled
What else would it possibly be about?

>>88452734
Seems like anons themselves are trying to make it drama. It's just the standard holo vagueposting causing schizophrenia to act up. Most recent example besides this one was Mori mentioning bad news and people sperging out about how it means she's going to announce her graduation aswell as people throwing in that Gura was going to graduate, because tards have to make everything about how Gura is going to graduate for some reason

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>>88443334
YES YES YES!!!! I FUCKING HATE HOLOFAGS SO MUCH FUCKING FINALLY
I hope that bitch Shart doesn't do this affiliate bullshit either so we can poach the fuck out of her

>>88452825
Schizos look for drama everywhere even members streams. Somehow only Kiara regularly gets drama from it. Maybe she should just shut her mouth or stop vaugeposting about these thing.

>>88452902
it's obviously some backstabbing that went on behind the scenes

>>88452927
you can take this one for free

>>88452872
Maybe Kiara needs to watch longer & how Dooby said Kippu/Ame is still working, just at a different shift than Dooby.

>>88452825
Do the psyops, its obviously a gift-memFAG

>>88452944
yeah but she can't just outright say that Ame is a piece of shit. That would be insane

>>88443334
this is ai

>>88452512
>public

>>88453004
>they can keep my old uniform!! the damn thing!!
>can't wait for this damn contract to be up
Anon?

>>88452944
>shut her mouth
I think she still wants to share her feelings with her fans which I respect. This kind of non-calculating honesty is what an idol should do

>>88450254
>anon says it hasn't improved since 2 years ago
>famously doomposting kiara says it has improved
el retardo

>>88452926
kiara
>literally my WORST FEARS are coming true
anon
>uhh its just schizos making drama out of nothing

Dare I say it?

>>88453023
>had to drop pretending pekora is her oshi
>has to drop pretending to be ame's gosling
lol

>>88452640
she fell off fr

>>88453088
Yes? And in the same stream, she also said Kippu is still working at a different shift. Do you even watch the debut?

>>88443587
She drop her triple vanilla malt ice cream.

>>88453149
>Fake Voice
>Fake Personality
>Fake Lesbian
Real Annoying. Maybe when Ina leave she might eventually catch up in about 3-5 years

>>88452944
>Somehow only Kiara regularly gets drama from it.
Because Kiara has mentally ill schizos? Im not sure where you're going with this. She's the only one to have had seethe over her because of her posting a picture of cookies before they went into the oven, and her asking about how tipping culture in America works caused a bait thread that had RM dox and narratives in it alongside regular Kiara shitposting that reached bump limit.

>Wawa seethe threads in the catalog
>Literally nothing about it on #s thread
You Fags needs to steel your balls and fight that thread heads on

>>88445365
She a master at baiting retards, last time she recording her 3d birthday and retard were saying her 3d got cancelled for weeks.

>>88453287
>you should totally go into the gorilla den

>>88453219
basically
>hates working and her Holo persona so fucking much
>has to wait for contract to be up so she's still working
Admitting she's still doing Holo stuff while hating it is not the win you think it is anon.

>>88453318
type that again without tears in your eyes, you missed a few words

>>88453318
If she literally said this shit in members and made all of her real fans worried, on the premise that it would get leaked, so she could "bait retards", that would make her a awful person.

>>88453287
There was only two Kiara bait threads on the entire board so far, the other one died which is why this one suddenly sped up.

>>88443707
She's probably mad about the preferential treatment cover is giving fuwamoco. Fuwamoco with corp backing did more in one year than kiara did in too.

>>88453567
Good, she didn't even bother learning which was which, cause she only cares about herself

>>88453567
>preferential treatment cover is giving fuwamoco
is it really preferential if they're working thr hardest?

>>88453287
>t.shitposting Nijisister

>>88453567
>She's mad that she didn't move to Japan and get better opportunities
that's on her tho

>>88453344
basically
>Bored of doing the same stuff.
>Forced another person to work for her.
>Still working, just not in the day shift (on stream).
>Literally here forever because her contract is 1000 years long.
>In the bio, she wants time off to build her own gaming PC.
There, I can pick lines that are good for my argument too.

>>88453444
It was on a twitter space and dumbass just take her rant as a "current" fact, forgoting she wss in jp to record her 3d live during that twitter space.

>>88443334
2 more weeks sister

>>88443334
what the heck this is her normal~ish voice?

>>88453671
Gura?

>>88453567
>homofag trying to make kfp shit on fuwamoco

>>88453744
>what the heck this is her normal~ish voice?
No, It's just what the chicken voice sounds like when she's relaxed, low energy, or doing a solo stream.

>>88449366
Only good transcription

>>88443334
AIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I HATE VAGUE DOOMPOSTING

>>88453785
kiara is known to be petty like that

>>88449737
>>88449508
Gura has been making moves to leave for months now, that's what she discovered

>>88453941
name two occasions?

>>88453567
Its a gimmick account. A 1 million subscriber channel with two people in a vtuber corpo shouldn't be the same as a 1 million subscriber channel with 1 person and they fucked over a lot of fans to get the growth but it doesn't even help their ccv they are just a shiny new toy to forget about with no substance behind bau.

>>88453967
As someone already mentioned, that wouldn't be a surprise, so it's not that.

>>88453941
>kiara is known to be petty like that
and apparently so are KFP >>88453989

>>88452563
her entire career lil bro

>>88443334
Is nobody else noticing? She said she working on a live and will have more time now, the live was delayed likely because of whatever is happening. She can use the extra time at home instead of rushing to japan. Wouldn't a delay like this happen because of a graduation so her going is not as important anymore?

>>88453989
FWMC's wild success really mindbroke kfp

>>88454099
Ok. So nothing?

>>88453319
This but unironically

>>88454116
yes her career is nothing but that's not the point kek

>>88452400
Please enlighten us who the big players are, from what I can tell Neuro is 8k, Mouse is 8k, Zen is 8k and Filian is 8k. I mean I think those are the best numbers in the indie space (Vshojo not technically indie but whatever)

I said it already but the only thing that satisfies every statement she made and doesn't go against a single thing would be if she recently found out about there being some sort of clique or group where she's being excluded or even talked about negatively, potentially also a version where there's some holos in a group planning to make their own group outside of cover and they're not inviting her

Something like that would be the only logical thing given all of what she said

>>88454100
ESL-kun...

>>88454100
Why would it get delayed by a graduation?

>>88453567
Makes no sense based on what Kiara said. But it seems like you just wanted to drag your Kiara vs FWMC narrative from the other thread that just died over to here, so you do you, I guess.

>>88454201
Mouse is 100k but twitch keeps kneecapping her viewership because they hate vtubers

>>88454254
I mean would you invite someone whose main traits are screaming "ME ME ME ME" and constantly complaining about everything?

at this point I don't even think it's about anti-ing kiara, kfp are just really entertaining to bait

>>88443693
honestly Calli would probably be worse for her.

>>88449739
How bad a thread full of conspiracy theories and posts about things she didn't say looks? You're right. You all look retarded.

>>88454318
>her viewership is huge, really
>chat doesn't move

>>88454387
Takamori is deader than their RM careers

>>88454403
It's almost as if vague doomposting without explaining thins is fucking stupid

>>88453253
funnyroo!

>>88454201
Zentreya is like 5k, so are Henya and Veibae. Shylily used to be like 6-7k be reclined to 4k, Sinder is 3k and inclining. Numi used to be 4k but reclined to 3k. There's a lot of people around 3k including most of Vshojo and even more around 2k.

>>88454433
they're actually kneecapping the viewers irl

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>>88443334
Standards for drama are low as ever as I see
Oh well you can keep twisting your pants over this as always veetee

>>88454461
Her fans will never ever accept the fact that she shouldn't do that, not even in members should she vaguely doompost and then not clear it up.
If you're gonna be only vague and make people worry then don't say it at all.

>>88454495
I never bothered to check, is it actually that grim outside of hololive wow

>>88445321
>>88445943
It would make a lot of sense if it actually was about NijiEN now that I think about it considering Kiara was on friendly terms with the likes of Enna and Elira
like imagine if Kiara had been wanting to find people to hang out with and obliviously asked Mint
>Hey Minto wanna hang out with me and your old buddies Elira and co
and then Mint was like 'wtf no' and gave Kiara the quick rundown on how evil they actually are, showing her the same proof that had traumatized her prior that she spoke about in that twitter space

>>88454201
Zen isn't indie either. En indie scene is looking like Doob domination

>>88454584
Not saying that Kiara hasn't talked to them, but when was the last time she interacted with nijiEN members, genuinely asking.

>>88446777
>>88446874
no you retards, the 'blessing in disguise' is in regards to her next live being delayed, she's saying that maybe it's a blessing in disguise that she doesn't have to worry about preparing for the live since she's already depressed about whatever this other thing is

>>88454580
These are average CCV which is what most people use for Twitch because of raids. It's not that different from EN's average CCV, but most people use peak for Youtube.

>>88454201
>>88454495
Yeah and Doki is in the 2k to 3k rage, Dooby if she isnt a huge lazy ass and does some collabs will likely settle at around the 5k to 6k for her first few months after the whole debut honeymoon is over next moon

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I see this just turned into numbers: the thread now

>>88446586
>>88449554
Threadly reminder that Ame used to be friends with Silvervale back in the day, who herself is actually a bitchy snaky piece of work despite having a wholesome exterior
the company people keep says a lot about themselves

>>88454745
classic kfp deflection tactic, works like a charm

>>88449159
The RM accounts for most of the EN branch would be on fire if Gura had announced her graduation. Yagoo would even be doomposting if Gura had made the decision to leave Hololive. The most likely rrat is that Kiara is getting a new manager.

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For someone called an unpopular holo
She sure seems to have the most power and influence on this board

So what are the chances of Ame and Gura make a clique of all ex Holo EN members

if kiara graduated she'd be in the 2k range and constantly crying and eventually just move on to fleshstreaming to incline, you'll never see her graduate she'll have be dragged from the building 10 or so years from now

>>88454580
Eh its not really that bad, more like the vtuber bubble has already burst and we're now in the process of viewership plateauing to where they should actually be.

>>88443334
>not something irl related
So its not about hololive then, cause thats her real life job

>>88454773
Of course, now one would ever talk about Kiara when talking about big numbers kek

>>88454773
well it's true regardless

>>88454801
Not impossible that there's plans of say Ame, Gura, Mumei and maybe 1 or 2 others to make a new group

>>88443334
The realization was that her eggs reserves are running thin.

>>88454811
Vedal has inclined instead of declined and for a while so was Filian but shes kinda fallen a little. But Vedal is his own case since hes like a hybrid of a vtuber and a techtuber.

>>88452110
>>88452872
This. I genuinely think this is it. Without calling Ame or Kiara a piece of shit, I think both had the best intentions, but sadly it's just an inevitable misunderstanding due to how they are.
In my understanding it could have gone somewhat like this:
>Ame talks about her plans with Myth
>she's likely being not really less vague than in her announcement because... it's Ame
I keep thinking about it since I've heard this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHjYRXZ6fsU
>Mori: "But the thing is I don't even fully understand [Ame's explanation]
>Ame just went "uhh guys I really can't stream regularly for Holo anymore. My dream is to do this thing on the side but I'm not really sure about details..."
I say it like this because Dooby clearly didn't think shit through enough, she has her website and plans to rent out her studio and be a vtuber consultant but it's all so vague. For now the website is just there and she's not doing anything with it. She commisioned the design and 3D model but didn't even find a 2D rigger yet. As of now she has no particular plans in terms of her content besides playing Halloween games (seasonal) and messing around with monkey bars and doing splits (what naturally comes from having her setup). Hell, we don't even know if her studio works out at all because she bought a house and set everything up there and now we are finding out every ISP in the area is fucked and she can't even stream for half an hour normally.
>Myth didn't really fully understand what exactly she is going to do outside Holo because she didn't understand it fully herself, she just wanted out of Holo obligations without knowing what's next after making Dooby model and mocap setup
>when asked "will you come back in some form" Ame dropped the same vague shit she later did in her streams. All those "maybe", "we'll see", "at least voice-based stuff", "uncharted territory", "I don't want to set high hopes but (proceeds to give hope)" etc.
>vague shit likely included the thing she said in her final stream. That she doesn't rule out the possibility of fully coming back "if Hololive accepts her back".
>everyone except Kiara figured already that even if Ame genuinely believes that the possibilities are really slim. Their reactions sounded like your run-of-the-mill graduation reactions. Graduation, not "becoming affiliate".
>Kiara is Kiara and would be devastated anyway, even if Ame was contractually obligated to come back in exactly one year and do 50 collabs with her in a row. But she's naive and she likely cares about Ame many times more than Ame cares about her. Not shitting on Ame, it's just her autistic emotional range and lone wolf mentality and her way of caring is way different. So Kiara was hung up on a possibility of Ame frequently appearing and maybe even coming back some day.
>Ame stops her activities and goes full on her new ventures with daily updates on Dooby
>Kiara hasn't made her "worst discovery" yet, she knows Ame had some plans and is working on them now. Proceeds to subscribe to Dooby like everyone else
>Dooby debuts, reveals her setup, is very active on discord etc. It's a huge event in EN vtubing.
>after debuting she doesn't feel like someone who'll go back to being an idol vtuber someday. She has her mega expensive setup, she's excited from streaming with less constraints, she drops some roommate facts.
>a piece of lore about "damn contract". I know it's never stated it's about herself. But we don't know what Kippu (the green fat fuck) is supposed to represent yet. It's definitely not a fanbase personification. He could be just a no-brain plot device to justify a fucking desert rat suddenly becoming a train operator. But he could also be a genuine allusion to Ame's time in Hololive and his "another shift" is just the affiliate deal. We have droves of retards /here/ completely sure of it already.

And the end result is:
>Dooby likely didn't mean to lie to her genmates and Kiara in particular. She just said what her ADHD brain was thinking. I doubt she's seriously thinking about whether she'll even come back or not at the moment, she's just clearly happy and excited to start off as Dooby.
>Kiara likely didn't start to think worse of Dooby. The realization just hit her after the debut. Ame won't come back besides some prerecorded stuff and maybe merch still in the works. No one knows if this discovery is true, maybe against all odds in a few years we'll see Ame in Hololive again. But for now it really, REALLY doesn't look like that seeing her debut and consequent streams.
>Kiara likely feels... betrayed? Shocked? Her "worst fear" is that Ame kept her out of things and she's actually never coming back, not even for live appearances like traditional idol cameos that Kiara talked about. And to Kiara, that fear came true. But "things are probably gonna be OK" because she still likes Ame and is probably happy for her.

>>88454809
If Kiara graduated she wouldn't re-debut and would probably be done with content creation as a whole. Though I don't know why you mentioned her graduating when this has nothing to do with that.

>>88454800
No one is even shitting on Kiara, we're just reacting to her doomposting. Settle down.

>>88454885
>Ame, Gura, Mumei
These 3 are too autistic to form a clique. Maybe it can happen if you add Fauna or Kronii

>>88454905
you really think she wouldnt try streaming at all? its not crazy money but its money

>>88454636
probably when she replied to an Enna tweet in the middle of the Selen drama happening earlier this year

https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/1771184304669733260
https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/1771184304669733260
https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/1771184304669733260
https://x.com/takanashikiara/status/1771184304669733260

>>88454495
damn these numbers are grim as hell.

>>88454949
you really can't read people can you

>>88454903
Only the most delusional holobronies have ever thought Ame was coming back. It was insanely obvious just from her public statements and people like Kiara with behind the scenes info knew it for certain. So it's not that. I doubt it's guraduation either.

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Just wanted to let you all know you're all drama hungry retards desperately scavenging for crumbs
Truthfully, this board would be better without you

>>88455079
but enough about you nu-nijisissies

>>88454903
>>88455027
So it's still most likely that Ame did some really shitty things behind the scenes?

>>88455079
>crumbs
your oshi baked us a wholeass loaf

>>88443587
The fall of the West

>>88443707
>still spreading made up gossip

>>88454636
I think(?) her last niji interaction was meeting some of the members during her freetime in Japan back in March. As for her last on stream interaction? I think that was Pomus graduation back in January. Though I guess technically more recent if you want to count the interactions with Mint.

>>88454671
yeah if we go by peak then filian tends to get peaks of around 11k to 13k on her better days, Neuro with Vedal on dev streams peaks can be 12k to 14k depending, but like you say in twitch we tend to go by average not peak

>>88454986
yeah IM and vedal are the only ones above 6k, you forget how grim vtubing is outside of holo when you dont check every so often

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>>88455079
Have you considered being upset at your own oshi for always dropping vague doomer stuff like this that only serves to spawn rrats to begin with

boy she sure does love talking

>>88443633
Not a huge fear, but it could be related to Eurovision too. I know Cover were a little on the fence about it but they might have finally said 'No, never'.

>>88454495
This shit is grim.

>>88455425
Not Kiara's fault she has mentally ill schizos, anon. I doubt she even cares or realizes that some of the stuff she says causes retards in here to have aneurysms.

>>88454461
2/3rds of the talents do this shit all the time.

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>>88455425
Not at all
I'm quite proud of her for being brave enough to say something when everyone else has their mouth welded shut
Even if it's completely vague

I've always admired Kiara's complete inability to lie or hide the truth
Her true feelings always show in the end and I've come to love that about her

>>88455580
You don't have to be mentally ill. Her being vague like this and making people worry with unclear doomer shit is a problem to begin with that is entirely on her.

>>88455580
For sure. You would have to be a deranged schizo to think "my worst fears are coming true" means something bad.

>>88455653
Based. These dramafaggots can't distinguish a true idol from an money hungry indiewhores

So what's really going on? The chicken okay?

Everybody in these thread s is overlooking the glaringly obvious elephant in the room that elucidate what she's talking about some more:
what's one significant change/different thing that happened with Kiara recently that could have opened her eyes to some new information she didn't have prior?

She finally became friends with Fauna after the 7DTD streams.
The Kirin knows something that we don't, that Kiara herself didn't know this whole time, that she now knows from Fauna that upset and depressed her because it's actually something Kiara-related that Kiara herself is in the dark about.
Now think about this: what could Fauna know? Well, think about the connections she has that Kiara doesn't have. Fauna is part of several other friendship groups that don't involve Kiara: such as the Twilight Crew (Fauna, Mumei, Shiori, Nerissa, Bijou), as well as SNOT (Fauna, Kronii, Mumei, Gura) and more recently the Clementine group that includes Kiara and Gigi (and by extension CC).
Some other things to consider: Fauna is the one EN who didn't want to do 3D lives (which involves inviting guests), didn't go to Japan again and didn't go with the others on the NA trip.

Here's my current theory:
Fauna, because of her involvement in multiple friendship groups - unlike Kiara until now - knows that certain members behind the scenes are all bitchy as fuck and shitalk each other in different groups and particularly talk badly about members like Kiara; Fauna feels bad about this and has lost respect for all of them, hanging out with them as little as possible without making it obvious what she's doing.
As for who these people are? I don't know but there's possibilities, some more farfetched than others

>Mori is actually a giant two-faced bitch behind the scenes and her, Kronii and IRyS regularly shitalk members including Kiara all the time (unlikely)
>Kronii is a bitch behind the scenes and shittalks members like KIara to other members like the Promise girls (more likely)
>Gura is actually the fakest bitch ever, her being 'like a sister to Kiara' was a complete lie and shittalks Kiara to members like Fauan (no idea how possible this is because Gura is such a cypher)
>Mumei is a cunt behind the scenes and has always hated Kiara for things like Kiara calling her cute and not sexy and this indeed really was the 'I learned cute can be passive aggressive' thing she was referring to to Bae that one time on stream (possible)

>>88455462
whenever i happen to catch one of these links to clips of kiara yapping i just keep thinking "just put the fries in the bag bro"

>>88455675
Again, I don't think Kiara is accounting for retards on here.

>>88455768
MEDS

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>>88455713
She's completely okay
The problem isn't about her
But it's made about her by the resident locusts as always

>>88455768
this but without the Fauna worshipping. Fauna is as guilty of shittalking as everyone else

>>88455653
>I've always admired Kiara's complete inability to lie or hide the truth
She is literally hiding it right now by being vague and not clarifying anything you 50 IQ tard

>>88455768
i aint reading all that

everyone in myth is burnout and wants out, shes the only one left trying and shes realised its not worth it
>explains work place depression
>explains that she noticed it years ago but only hit recently with dooby debut(ame seems to be enjoying herself)
>kiara has only ever been as invested aslong as someone or something was there to invest in
>probably realised shes being sidelined for new talent

>>88455864
She will talk as much as possible without putting herself or other talents into real trouble retard.
>Ummm if she is so truthful why doesn't she dox everyone huh??
Pedantic faggot

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>>88455864
Did you hear her say she can't talk about it?
The bottom line is she still let us know about it, when other girls would have never brought it up
I completely understand if that kind of honesty makes you uncomfortable but not for me.

>>88455653
>Even if it's completely vague
>I've always admired Kiara's complete inability to lie or hide the truth
KFPiss cant even get their bullshit straight lmao

All of you are dumb. This is about cover not paying the artists.
1. Been happening for months.
2. Only learned a few days ago.

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>>88455981
Post above you clarifies what I mean

>>88455859
Fauna has never done or said anything to indicate she would be like this and always tries to be cordial and avoid any drama as much as possible. Fauna is one of the most well put together, emotionally stable members of EN that has virtually no drama associated with her at all other than that one 'not your friend thing' that only Canadians who can't clean their keyboards care about.

>>88455843
Allright. I don't really watch her but her 3D gave me a lot many good alone times if you catch my drift. Good to see she's alright.

>>88455977
Wow I'm so glad she's making us all worry and feel gloomy for months without letting us know what is going on so I can be sad for some months in advance before whatever it is actually comes out and she can acknowledge it without being a vague rrat spawner.
Thank you so much, appreciate the honesty.

>>88455888
she dooby lookin like that

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>>88456111
Yes unironically
I would rather be given time to prepare for an upcoming tragedy rather than be surprised by it

>>88456111
This is what an real idol looks like. You wouldn't get it

>>88456111
In this case it was a members stream so it's literally your own fault for being a drama starved retard who is terminally /here/ plus the retards that leaked the info.

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So let's assume this is a graduation

Why are we angry at Kiara when someone else is graduating?
Why are we angry that Kiara let us know that someone is graduating?
Why are we angry at Kiara?

>>88456237
No this is what having the mental fortitude of a 15 year old emo girl who can't control herself and who needs to make you worry with random vague statements looks like