How come she wasn't able to achieve a fraction of Sakuna's success?
vshojo
fleshtubing
>>88475450You went out of your way to bake this thread about her, she succeeded in making you mad and that's priceless.
>>88475450boring
>>88475450she was never a good streamer, and she threw away the only thing she had going for her, her work ethicsShe's all paid events and merch, nothing worth mentioning about her vtuber career
>>88475450Did she really ruin her CV by becoming a vtuber?
she literally did, she got huge numbers on redebut, astronomical.it was the loss of the box appeal and the change in her content that did her in
>>88475450Her one thing that made her special was that she was the rule breaker without that she's just mediocre and after she joined VShojo it was over
>>88476512>she got huge numbers on redebut, astronomical.it was like 20k lol
>>88478482it was close to 40kback then that shit was bigholo's growth and current averages have just inflated people's perception
>>88475450>>what was her biggest mistake>leaving Hololive>Fleshtubing>Moving out of the Holohouse >Going to twitch>Joining Vshojo>Boasting about Talent Freedom>Wanting to save the cursed item>Starting Vshojo Japan with a cursed item>More Fleshtubing>Male collabing>Solely focusing on JP-fans>God complex over ENvtubing>Defending "friends" that she doesnt even talk with>Even more fleshtubing
Fleshtubing but I honestly think she broke the immersion not just for her but made a lot of people realize that vtubers were actual normal women. >>88478633She graduated at +500k, 40k is not that good when compared to 780 to 350 Aqua’s retention.
>>88479332sure, but the OP post only mentioned achieving a fraction of Sakuna's success, which she did
>>88479332Aqua was in Hololive for much longer.
>>88475450Flesh appearance to announce her joining Vshojo
>>88475450>Thought she was impervious to criticism and irreplaceable in Cover
>>88475450Sakuna's success is literally all thanks to kson creating the ex-holo community which is going to begin thriving in the coming months as they start collabing.
>>88475450Becoming a fleshbag and still trying to claim she's a vtuber.
>>88475450Her biggest mistake is not releasing a JAV. It doesn't even need to have any penises in it, lesbian would be fine too.
>>88481278>kson creating the ex-holo communityDYRBI??? Rica and Triangle did more for the creating an Ex-Holo community than Kson in the whole 3 years since she left Hololive
IT'S (YOU) THAT'S LEFT
>>88475450Chink still attacking her
>>88481552No that is Mikeneko you dumb fuck newfag
>>88481552Yes? kson has always been the one gathering and connecting everyone. Rica has been collabing with kson before delu had crawled out of her unlisted streams cave.kson knew that Aqua was going to come back before she had even graduated because they're friends.
>>88478482KEK what is this revisionist newfag bullshit. She was pulling between 40k and 50k on her first 2 months. Which back then was huge for an indie.Just like with Sakuna and Dooby half this board was people saying all of Hololive would graduate and follow her. Especially Kanata. All the grudgeposting aimed at Kson is probably because of those threads. I expect the same thing to happen to Sakuna and Dooby. Dooby already got less views than HoloENs overlapping her. And we're only 5 days in.
>>88481552Yes? I know Rica because of Kson
>>88481737They will follow her after seeing Sakuna.
>Boring outside the holobox>Not even a sexy hag so her being a turbo dyke doesn't make her simpable>Her most infamous clip is literally her saying she never needs cock in her lifeShe gained too much of an ego, I had to drop her ass after I found out how she really was.
>>88481278>>88481680We're on year 3 of "2 more weeks until kson creates her own corp and destroys cover".
>>88481737Wrong She was trying to built her GMMF gang but Holobronies take it as treason because Kson just show them that 2-3 views Vtubers can replace Holobox and enrage in /#/. They even try to talk shit to GMMF gang like Kourin from Maha5.
>>88481922Even if she's not creating one there's a huge community forming around ex-holos right now that's going to be just like hololive but better.
>>88475450This is not meant to be sarcastic or ironic, just a fact.Kson started streaming on Twitch through a contract with Vshojo, at which point many of her fans stopped paying attention to her.There are gamers in this world who will become haters of a game, whether it is good or not, simply because it is a Switch exclusive game.
>>884819902 more weeks
>>88481737Kson is the one who trying to convince people in Hololive " not to graduation". You POH Do not rewrite historyAnd watch Marine, Lamy, Choco and Haachama.
>>88482065It's literally right here right now. We have had continuous /xhlgg/ threads for a few days now and the vtuber community everywhere else is expecting all the ex-holos to collab so they definitely will.
>>88482153Legit can't tell if you're a troll or retarded. Either way enjoy getting grudgeposted in a few months just like ksontards.
>>88482218Those Ksontards survive for fucking 3 years from many onslaughts. Do not underestimated them
>>88482218He is based but you are not smart enough.
>>88475450Who the heck is Sakuna?
>kson seethe threadWho's graduating now?
>>88482346ksofnag actually saw sukuna and dooby debut numbers, and immediately tried to put them, dooby and sukuna community together. kson,dooby and sukuna are friends, please collab xhlgg is a joke.
>>88482346They're like cockroaches.
>>88482533They really are friend anon.
>>88482682An indomitable will incarnate to human
>>88482533Actually they only moved after seeing sakuna numbers. They had two whole days to start posting this ex-holo stuff but apparently dooby's 40k debut or whatever it was just wasn't big enough for them.
>>88475450I genuinely think its just because she didn't have big appeal in Japan. They're pretty meh about abroad Japanese folks and probably are annoyed seeing english comments all the time. Bau Bau are different cause culturally they're already Japanese due to their past and how much effort they put in to get respect from JP. Maybe Kson needed more time to bake in the oven at holo and get more JP fans, I dunno, but yeah she isn't an amazing entertainer, just silly. Watching her STGR streams are kinda meh when it really should be anything but considering how much natural content happens there. man fuck Vshojo
>>88482533Op is not Ksonfag. Retard
>>88482848Kson is Jp vtuber anon Her hardcore audiences always are JP and they are rich.
>>88475450honestly, is was not creating another vtuber model that has nothing to do with the kson person. she should have kept both kson and this new vtuber persona separate. immersion being ruin, is hard to recover from.
>>88482848Anon she had an audience of about 4000 people who used to donate ludicrous amounts of money to her and they were all JP.Most of them fucked off and she now doesn't get enough superchats to make it into the monthly top 2000 list. The reason why they fucked off is up to debate.
>>88482848The dogs would end up in an even worse place than kson if they tried to pull what she did and become JP only flesh streamers. They are not special.
>>88475450Real talkChina still attacking Kson when she is indie ( look Playism incident) and only Ksonfags support her this time.Nijisister hate Kson for graduation but no bad blood to ex corporation. They also support China and attacking Kson by banning Kson from various events when she is indie.SadlyHolobros.... They aren't supportive but change to become worse. They also hate Kson and treat Kson like their nemesis.They create nasty rrat and spin her word. They are low IQ and not understanding dark joke and sarcasm joke. /#/ are worse than China sometime unironically.
>>88483471Learn english before making any more posts ksonfaggot.
Kiryu Coco aka Kson is the greatest vtuber of all time. Haachama is the second greatest. Kizuna Ai is the third greatest. anything else is slander
>>88483619Tldr : She has so many enemy and so few of friend.
>>88483785No one likes her because of you.
>>88476512>the change in her contentLiterally nothing changed. And that's the problem.
>>88483844Use guilt trip now? After fucking 3 years of ignorance and still blame me for not supporting someone?No, You are problemYou LEAVE and I never LEAVE
>>88483954Stop posting and learn english. You make literally no sense.
Fleshtubers are whores so I don't really care for KSon but hasn't she pretty much achieved everything she wanted to? The only thing that really sticks out since I don't watch is her love of the Yakuza/LAD games and she was about as involved as she could have ever hoped to be, she probably had enough money to retire the moment she left Hololive let alone all these years later, and she seems to be making a lot of big-titted JAV friends. If all you ever wanted was your oshi to be happy (at least until the egg timer ramps up) then mission accomplished as far as I can see. But who am I kidding, this is a number-nigger thread.
>>88484014He is trying to blame other for his ignorance for not support Kson situation after she was attacked by various directions and many times. For the worse, he try to guilt trip who still support her for 3 years because of his ego
>>88483090She just stopped doing superchat readings
>>88484557You're retarded if you still support kson
>>88484659Why not support her? If you are truly Holobronies from 2020 era, We will do it without any hesitation and I will not stop for only Kson this time.Someone said " fanbase are mirroring their oshi" so why not?We are saviorfags like our Oshi Kson afterall.
>>88484929Stop posting and learn english.
>>88485067Noted but next time
>>88479332It was also a different time anon.Back then Vtubing wasn't as big and following someone to their PL was still a relatively obscure idea. If anything Kson was the first vtuber to actually keep a career after quitting a corpo.Nowadays everyone tracks their oshi's PL regardless of if they announced graduation.
>>88484929>Someone said " fanbase are mirroring their oshi" so why not?>We are saviorfags like our Oshi Kson afterall.>reddit spacingNot only saviorfag but also an obnoxious fuck
>>88485279>Back then Vtubing wasn't as big and following someone to their PL was still a relatively obscure idea.What? Coco graduated to 500k viewers and had been active as kson the whole time.Is this the part where we're going to have to break out some kind of "audience inflation" math to calculate how many viewers Coco's graduation and return would have in 2024?
>>88481278ex-holo community? That's not even really a thing.
>>88485914Yeah it is >>88474605
>>88486045wasn't that just an anti thread? There's nothing in there but seething and screeching.
>>88486104No, it's a genuine general now for talking about all ex-holo girls. They're probably gonna collab so there's going to be an ex-holo box of sorts.
>>88475698/thread
>>88486308That's actually pretty funny. Glad to see it end somewhat nicely, at least.
>>88486104>>88486308>They're probably gonna collab so there's going to be an ex-holo box of sorts.it's just ksonfag trying to leech sukuna number
>>88485849NTA but this is where numberfagging bothers me. It's always "Look at the new highscore!" and not "okay, what's the actual average viewer count including SD? How much variance is there in audience viewership? What is the percentage of active viewers to dead accounts? When do interactions on livestreams (live and then the recordings) die, do the livestreams stay popular for a week? A month?" etc. ACTUAL numberfagging is so much fun and is interesting to see trends. This powerleveling bullshit is just assretarded man.Anyways. As for Kson, she's getting what she wants. We could argue stuff like success, but let's all be honest and admit that most success is basically just luck. People don't think too hard and just like pretty girl speaking.
>>88486308you are trolling but I fear that they are retards who actually believe this.
she was never good and only got popular because she speaks in english and had cringy ass memes that zoomers latch on to.
>>88486757>It's always "Look at the new highscore!"Good thing I'm not doing that then? This argument that vtubing is just larger now and kson's return would be totally different today is just stupid.
>>88487675No anon, you don't understand. She's doing all of that, but she's not dealing with retards all day and appeasing losers. Clearly she's lost and they're all victors.
>>88475450According to her, her fans LEAVED.
>>88481278Kson's only big accomplished is that she was the first holomen to quit. Ever since then she left no mark, unless you count that shitshow that was Nazuna.
>>88489955She is the common friend off all ex-holos to this very day.
>>88490124That's very nice, but so what? There are no collabs or a live show with all of them, so I don't see how this matter at all.
she is ugly brash has bad content and showed her face
>>88490545There will be one now that there's more of them and a growing community who wants to see them collab.
>>88490706People want to see Sakuna, not Kson. Kson has her own corpo now, which is the main reason why a lot of people left her.
>>88491043Vshojo members can have their own groups outside of vshojo.Kson already hangs out out with most ex-holos so it only takes a small push to form a cohesive group.
niggers have been wanting kson to collab with a holo for years now
>>88491407She collabs with Rica and Guuchan several times already. We are good in that matter.
>>88491043They left her before join Vshojo.They even hate when she collabed with Pikamee and VOMS and called her betrayer and they even hate Pikamee for this.
>>88492666cool, call me when she collabs with an active holomem
>>88492901And you will attack that Hololive member like they do to Haachama
>>88475450Not sure why she joined a vtubing agency when her heart is in softcore fleshtubing
I don't think you can make any judgement on Sakuna yet other then she had a big debut
>>88492985Oh they collabed together as Haachama and Kson? News to me
>>88493270NTA Haachama sent her congratulation short video to Kson and Holodrone hate her and she even got punishment very harsh form management later. Source : Haachama said it herself on stream about this regard.
>>88479030Good list, it was a long series of choices that got her there. I will say, she never seemed to miss being in the spotlight like during her Hololive days, and I think she's good on money - so it seems intentional that she went ''fuck it''.
>>88475450Too much flesh streaming
>>88482486Kiara was doomposting
>>88475450Kson, unlike Sakuna, can be respected for changing the character background from Coco.However, when she made doxxing Holo's RM her biggest content, I stopped watching her.
>>88499902doxxing my ass
>>88499902You don't know doxxing really meant faggot
>>88499902>> Kson is doxxing Hololive's RM now?Who and when? Schizo
>>88484929what has kson done lately that deserves my support? con appearances don't matter to me
>>88475698why is the thread still going
>>88475450Not a vtuber.Most of her streams are drinking with her JAV friends she met in the Yakuza game casting and getting them to the lewd shit for views.She is a borderline onlyfans whore at this point.
>>88502168Because Kson antis have nothing better to do with their lives.
>>88475450- Ugly Vtuber model that's based off her irl appearance.- Vshoujo.
>>88502129she has a sponsorship with sex toy company.
>>88485297NTA but are you aware that you're reddit spacing as well?
>>88475450She wasn't entertaining as Coco and she still isn't as kson.. the only reason she was popular was because she became the bridge to the real content on holojp. I've tried rewatching Coco's archived streams and her content hasn't changed at all, still the same boring generic shit. Even if she stayed in Holo she would be at best on par with chocosen/roboco. She was lucky the chinks called her as out because it boosted her popularity with the anti ccp crowd.
>>885021293rd Anniversary is fucking good anonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxv4w-gDtZc
>>88475450I dunno but I doubt she regrets any of that when she appeared in that Yakuza game. That to her was a bigger than any of the success she had gotten. So I doubt she ever regretted leaving Hololive. At all./thread
>>88475450Damn she fell off fr