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>confirms the nijisanji graduation queue is real from mutiple "in the know" sources
>says in the coming months even more are planned to graduted
>says a spot in the queue is "highly sought after" by some livers
sisters, I don't feel so good
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>>88483315
>>confirms the nijisanji graduation queue is real from mutiple "in the know" sources
As if the whole 1 graduation per month (except for a pause during Selen fallout) does not imply that lmao. After the NijiID mass graduation shit, NijiEN mass graduation would spook everyone, including investors, amd it will confirm that NijiEN is truly dead. This tactic is used to buy Anycolor more time before the inevitable
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I don't understand this graduation queue thing. Just quit.
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>>88483315
god, I hope so.
I don't really give a shit about rosemi, but apparently my oshi does, so I hope she gets out safely.
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>Multiple Livers are leaving
>Some highly sought after
The people with dedicated fanbases will leave because they can survive as indies. The people who need NijiEN viewers will stay forever as they won't survive as an indie since it requires effort and not just coasting off your company fanbase.
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>>88483722
The company wont let it happen because investors would panic sell in an instant if a lot of talents just decided to quit together
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>>88483722
IF you "just quit" they would still not graduate you until your spot on the queue came up.

What would happen is you would "quit", give your two weeks, and they would keep puppeting your body around and pretending you're still with them while waving a non-compete/NDA in your face depending on who you were and where you lived, and pretending you just went on an extended hiatus.
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next graduation would be alban or fulgur.
the rrat said theres another graduation after vivi. and guess whos not joining niji music festival on december? yes alban and fulgur
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>>88483722
all graduations seem to happen at bare minimum 6 months after turning in your papers, OR when contract expires.
Mysta was kept on a string until after Nina graduated, despite putting in his papers first, and Mika was strung along for months because she didn't actively push management to finalize the graduation date.
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>highly sought after by some livers
What exactly is he trying to say here?
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>>88485058
I would spoonfeed you to prove to you why you’re wrong but it’s more funny to imagine you obliviously scrambling like this
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>>88485261
They’re begging to be put out of their misery but Riku won’t pull the trigger?
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>>88483484
He said that he spoke to multiple sources in the know who confirmed it. And given who he is it's entirely believable that his sources could even be the talents themselves.
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>>88483315
>trust me bro
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>>88483722
Mysta said he want to quit months before graduation but niji control when they could graduate.
>inb4 why not just get terminate
And losing 50% chance of what if i get those 2% merch, vp and sc money?
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>>88483315
falseeyed is a faggot
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>>88483722
It's a business rule of thumb. You don't let your bad news stack up. If you have 2 bad things happen at the same time that are going to be public, you stretch out those announcements so that they don't overlap.

Problem is that most companies don't have THIS much bad news. So the typical strategy of having a couple months inbetween bad things happening is now bumping up against the reality of contracts expiring + the sheer number of people wanting to quit. But for whatever reason Niji is still sticking to the strategy of no new graduations get announced until the last announced one takes place.
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>>88485345
They're probably leaving anyways. Does the order really matter? The only one I can imagine going before them is like... Ren maybe? Rosemi? Petra probably doesn't give a shit about anything since she's effectively a JP streamer now.
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>>88485607
I should add You don't let bad news stack up *if you can help it. Sometimes you can't, but if a company can control the flow of news about them then 100% you're not going to see things stack unless it's a dire situation where something must be announced immediately.
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>>88485528
Mysta literately said he wanted to do his sponsors that he already signed up for like the HK one that happened the same month he left but was announced in march months before he left.
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>>88485377
No I mean what would highly sought after spot would mean in this situation? Or was he trying to say that a highly sought after liver will graduate?
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>>88484821
You sign a contract when you join, and they can and seemingly do delay your graduation for as long as they can. But if your contract expires and you're in the queue? You can just leave. A contract's expiration means you're no longer employed if you didn't sign a new one. And if someone wants to leave they just won't.
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>>88485345
nice try for damage control nijisister lol
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>>88485717
>says a spot in the queue is "highly sought after" by some livers
He's essentially saying that a lot of people want to graduate.
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>>88483315
NijiEN literally falling apart at the seams. Liver after liver will keep graduating.
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>>88485790
Nice try for english proficiency lol
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>>88485528
I'd bet almost anything that Mysta specifically was delayed because he was such a huge asset to NijiEN. Losing not only one of their golden boys in Luxiem, but the one who consistently rivaled Vox in terms of popularity would be a devastating blow that they don't want to take and they probably delayed it for as long as they could and let Nina graduate before him even though by all metrics she requested it after.
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>>88485796
Aaaaah
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>>88483315
>>88485538
stop fighting, anons, you're both right
false eye dee has the inside sauce AND he's a colossal turbo-fag
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>>88483722
That's not how it works. It's very simple. A dozen livers graduating same time looks really bad to investors, whereas them graduating slowly over time looks less bad. It's still bad nonetheless but one alternative looks less bad than the other. It's all about keeping up appearances to investors.
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>>88485717
Graduation queue = 1 at a time in an orderly manner. Let's say they're doing 1 per month, and 8 people want to leave. That means it's 8 months to leave if you're one of the last people on that list, and people want to be at the top so they can leave sooner.
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>>88485859
>cant provide proof
>proceed to moving goalpost with something unrelated
many such case
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>>88485687
>>88485920
Mysta said he only chose to stay longer because he didn't want to cancel his convention appearance that was planned months ahead.
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>>88486137
Many english study need yes
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>>88486293
>still wont give proof
alban or fulgur graduation confirmed
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>>88486448
You’re getting there keep studying
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>>88486448
>word salad continues
Mumei just enjoyers
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>>88485478
>telling a lie that Niji can dunk on him by exposing
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>>88486504
see you next thread on graduation notice nijisister lmaooo
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>>88483722
To add to the financial aspect, Niji has their personal details, which could come up in any lawsuit... even if they would lose immediately. If they wanted to leave immediately they'd better have some secret dirt (with receipts) on Niji to prevent them from doing this, a la Doki.
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>>88483722
There’s a clause in the Niji contract where they can fine you up to 100% of the years earnings and notHex recently said that Nijisanji forces you to go to Japan and return the phone in person, mail is not allowed.
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>>88483722
to prevent this happened
riku is stock obsessed mf.
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>>88486683
Jesus. Black company extraordinaire.
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>>88486726
>Cover rigging yab
>Cover stocks rise
>Niji stocks fall
Kek
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>>88486792
Wow you really can say anything about Nijsanji and some retard will believe it.
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>>88486859
>Cover rigging yab
how did they yab by making sure they were in compliance with an upcoming law?
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>>88486878
keep seething nijisister
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>>88486911
they didn't pay the fucking riggers for a year and got sued, so it's a fuckup no matter what.
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>>88486997
Glad you removed yourself from Yagoo's cock to respond to me anon.
Your black company will crash and burn and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>88487092
Nobody cares
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>>88486878
Anything anyone says about Kurosanji is believable considering the things they've already done. Nothing is beneath them. Keep seething about that sister.
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>>88487092
That's not true at all, but keep trying.

You know who actually doesn't pay? Nijisanji.
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>>88487135
Two more weeks!
Until niji next graduation
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>>88486683
He didn't use the word 'force' and he did say that he thought about cancelling the trip many times. Meaning it's not really necessary to go all the way to japan to return the niji phone.
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>>88487092
>got sued
They got a slap on the wrist at best. You can keep trying to perpetuate this lie but no one will ever believe it.
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>>88487154
>>88487201
>>88487268
>70k likes
>40mi views
>showed up on national television and warned by the state officials
cope.

https://x.com/livedoornews/status/1849699536479932658
https://x.com/tkzwgrs/status/1849876133577359420
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>>88486058
Also this method works when you have only one or two graduations a year, not the 19 and counting they have in 2024
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>>88487327
>moves the goalpost from them getting sued to likes and views
Your concession is accepted.
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>>88487402
>ESL fails to read the japanese article AND understand my post
sad!
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>>88483315
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NIJIBROS DON'T LOOK
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>>88483315
>"highly sought after"
I took that to mean the soon-to-graduate livers are highly sought after, as in by other corpos.
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>>88485920
>I'd bet almost anything that Mysta specifically was delayed because he was such a huge asset to NijiEN
not just mysta, some of the exid did confirm that niji delayed their graduations to lessen the impact which is why they did batched spaced graduations in 2023 for them despite majority of them wanting out in jan 2023
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>>88487327
>Stocks go up
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>>88487510
>no argument
I already accepted your concession. Next time try not to attempt to move the goalpost so blatantly when you lose the argument and save yourself some embarrassment :)
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>>88485058
I think it has to be Fulgur at this point yeah? He's been more active elsewhere recently, his PL even has a Bluesky with a bio that has the subtlety of a brick through a window. And he could've easily been at the music festival considering the other EN members without 3D will be there.
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>>88487758
It's honestly up in the air at this point. It's apparently an unpredictable one.
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>>88483315
Anons there is one thing I don't get, why not just provoke termination? It's not like they get much money to begin with and the risk of being sued if you don't live in japan is basically zero. Why wait? Just force their hand by talking shit about management live on stream or something?
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>>88487649
it was down monday, when nikkei was up, so there was a reaction there initially. they cut the trend quickly though, dunno if it was because of the card sales or it was a buyback.
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>>88488068
>nijinigger projection
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>>88488068
>buyback
You know you can see that if this was the case right?
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>>88488068
>buyback.
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>>88484694
The company has no actual way to stop you, and you're retarded for suggesting Nijisanji could effectively enslave it's employees, let alone contractors.
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>>88487887
Because it's not worth it. Nijifags already view any ex-niji who dares to say anything remotely negative about their precious black company as traitors and harass them. Why take the risk of forcing a termination when they can leave on more amicable terms and avoid the rage of nijifags?
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>>88488182
They're still a billion dollar company. They have ways to get you blacklisted from shit.
Even Doki's admitted that she's lost opportunities and events in recent months due to Niji.
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>>88488182
Apart from withholding pay of course
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>>88485717
If you working in a dead company with no income, no benefit by still tie by contract. Don't you want to get out as soon as possible too?
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>>88487092
>Regulator calling them out on past mistakes
>"They got sued!"
Stop talking out of your ass you clown.
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>>88488160
the stocks just opened up, 17% up out of nowhere is weird, i don't know what they did, i just saw their numbers now.
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>>88488299
>expecting that of a nijinigger
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>>88488068
>W-what if it was a b-buyback
You know those are announced months in advance, right? You don't just do a surprise stock buyback out of nowhere you infantile retard.
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>>88488333
>out of nowhere
nah you are just retarded anon
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>>88488391
so it was the cards, fair enough.
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>>88486683
I can't remember the details of the contract, but realistically they can't get back the money they already paid out, so they'd lose a few months at most. The greater danger is getting wactored by niji.
>>88486878
You can read the contract. It's out there.
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>>88488160
Please understand, 3 days of non stop shouting Cover yab both here and twitter and... Nothing happened, xhe's about to explode.
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>>88487092
I wouldn't believe anything coming from a sister talking about yab.
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>>88488256
>Implying they wouldn't do that anyway
I mean I get it, livers can be naive enough to believe otherwise and that's how they get away with it, but realistically they have nothing if you want to quit whenever you want.
>>88488280
Which they have done even to properly graduated talents, so that's nothing new either. You know you don't solve the ongoing problem of them withholding pay by continuing to work for them right?
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>>88488480
>I mean I get it, livers can be naive enough to believe otherwise and that's how they get away with it, but realistically they have nothing if you want to quit whenever you want.
Well, yeah, but there's also the psychological problems every ex-niji has had with the whole "I'm worthless without the brand" thing. It's not easy to leave an abusive relationship like that.
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>>88488574
I agree with that part entirely. There are a lot of personal psychological barriers like that especially when dealing with abusive companies, but the matter at hand is about whether Niji themselves have any actual way to stop you from leaving if you wanted to, and the answer to that is really they don't.

I say this in part because I believe still working for AnyColor after February is entirely immoral and I strongly question the morality of anyone who didn't hand in their resignation on the spot.
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>>88488480
>Which they have done even to properly graduated talents
nah its different in nina and mystas case since it was merch after she graduated and they already do scummy shit like that even in jp like how they skinwalked mayuzumi, they can withhold something like the last 3 months of your revenue before you graduate/terminated or worse get your pc like with chihiro who had to re-debut using her friends setup since she doesnt have access to hers anymore
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>>88488281
I was confused about the wording my nigga
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>>88488819
>They can
They "can" withhold literally any amount of time and money from you unless you live in JP and/or have a reasonable way to sue them. Most foreign employees don't so they can get away with this shit. The issue is this works both ways, Niji can't do shit if you default on matters like sending back things they ask for. The problem most of these livers run into is they believe the shit Niji tells them and try to act in good faith with a company that does not in any way intend to reciprocate.

It is, in all matters but especially employment, incredibly important to know and understand your rights.
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>>88488765
Anon they sign contracts when they join. If you break that contract then you get liable for gigantic fines. The only way out is to go through the proper channels that the contract outlines for you to exit (Thus, the graduation queue), or to get terminated. But getting terminated without a good reason isn't a good look. There's also waiting out the length of your contract, but for now it seems like graduating is still faster than that so it's the preferred option.
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>>88488574
>>88488765
They have one nuke they can drop on any talent. They can wactor the talents. With that fanbase, it can put them at actual physical risk, something most of them would be paranoid about. The only way to get out is if they have their own nuke that they can drop (hard evidence of wrongdoing). But even then it will be scary.
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>>88483315
dooby deflection
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>Highly sought after
Who is still highly sought after at this point?
The girls average is like 300 - 600. The boys might be able to crack 1000, hell sometime 2000 but most of the time it's event. The new waves are almost 2 views with abysmal returns. Who's still sought after?
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>>88489140
well they already did it to Sayu, so I can understand why it would be a worry.
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>>88489272
It seems a bit unclear, but he said that the *queue* is highly sought after.
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>>88489034
>If you break that contract then you get liable for gigantic fines.
Please stop talking out of your ass. There is no legal way for this to actually occur. An employment contract is it's own thing and not the same as something like an NDA or any other variety of contract. You're already way off the mark by not understanding that there is no such thing as a generic "contract" because they all have very specific rules and conditions.

The fines are also utterly minuscule, and most importantly no court in the god damn world outside of literal slave states like Qatar will enforce a contract that effectively enslaves you either through physical or financial duress unless you have already somehow benefitted unilaterally and need to uphold your end of the bargain, which is again just not the case when it comes to employment. At worst you'd need to pay back your salary if and only if you got an advance on it.

>The only way out is to go through the proper channels that the contract outlines for you to exit
Absolutely not. I have no idea where you got this horseshit but that is absolutely not true at all.
>getting terminated without a good reason isn't a good look.
Bull. It might have been some years ago, but that ship has sailed long ago, and even back then Rushia got a ton of support until she fucked it all up herself.
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>>88489414
The fines are "pay back all the money you made with us since you last signed a contract"
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>>88489310
Oh, right. I think the only reason why this wasn't done to Doki is because she has a shit ton of compromising evidence. Which is also why she can't afford to release it.
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>>88489272
Fishman could take Rosemi and use her to replace Pippa as Phase headliner and actually elevate Phase from its current status.
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>>88489444
There is no legal way for them to demand that. They can ask you for your kidneys in the same way, and you'd be no more obligated to acquiesce.
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>>88486683
Sorry, how is mail not allowed? I work S/H for a company, part of my day to day operations is proving that 'yes, this package was delivered to this address on this date, here's POD and a signature of the person who signed for it'. It doesn't matter if it's a 10 dollar package or a 1000 dollar package, if I can prove it was delivered to the right address with a signature to boot, how can I be penalized by the company?
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>>88489570
I believe they pay 2 months out, so if you get terminated, you'll lose the next two months of income since they'll withhold it from you.
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>>88489621
They cannot. The issue here is that Nijisanji will demand it and the dumb young adults that work in this industry will believe that they have to do what Nijisanji says, even though they do not.
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>>88483315
>more underperforming niji en livers leaving.
Good, that means riku can debut more jp waves and pump more budget into luxiem/rofmao/chronoir, nijisanji will only grows stronger.
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>>88483315
>Guys. I know this dramafag has been caught lying multiple times but trust me, he's telling the truth this time
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>>88489670
Highly illegal. Not to say they wouldn't do it anyway but at that point you're already accepting that the company is going to screw you over any way they can and you're better off cutting your losses there, especially if you have no legal recourse. Why the fuck would you hand them more power over you when you expect them to fuck you?
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>>88489414
Nigga what kinda rrat juice are you slurping on where you're comparing the act of being employed to slavery. They signed a contract to work for a company. The contract has various terms that are agreed to upon signing them. Employment doesn't exist without the contract. There's no enslavement here and comparing it to that makes you look retarded. This isn't a normal 9-5 where you turn in your 2 weeks and then you can leave. It's an entertainment contract for talents and works completely different from working at Wal-Mart or whatever.
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>>88489779
are the times he got caught lying in the room with us right now?
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>>88489779
Used to watch him for just basic day-to-day updates on things going on in the industry until he started shilling for Legal Mindset, who operated as a lawyer on his channel in the same way Dr. Oz operates as a doctor. Disgusting practice.
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>>88489692
>>88489780
Everybody gangsta until you're in a situation where they can dox you and their fanbase can send death threats to your actual home.
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>>88489857
>Guys, Nijisanji is totally kicking vendors out of conventions

Then the convention says that never happened.
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>>88489825
>Nigga what kinda rrat juice are you slurping on where you're comparing the act of being employed to slavery.
Stop inventing narratives in your head and listen to what people are saying, because that most certainly has nothing to do with what I said.
>They signed a contract to work for a company.
Correct. And a company can only make very specific demands of such employees in regards to resigning from such employment. They can't just ask whatever the fuck they want you infantile retard. There are laws that regulate this sort of thing.
>There's no enslavement here and comparing it to that makes you look retarded.
No, you thinking this is what happened is proof that you are, in fact, quite retarded.
>It's an entertainment contract for talents and works completely different from working at Wal-Mart or whatever.
Oh? How? Do you actually know the difference or are you just talking out of your ass based on presumptuous nonsense? I already know the answer anon, because it's clear you don't actually know the first damn thing about contract law, so why the fuck are you making shit up as you go and acting like you're in any position to "correct" other people on matters you so absurdly obviously know nothing about?
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>>88487327
My favorite part is this dramafag blatantly lying about Holo "almost" breaking the law. They did break the law, got reported to the government and were given an official warning from the government

The Japanese media already reported on it significantly better than this sham did. All he did was prove that he's unreliable
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>>88489971
Getting Wactor'd isn't something you can simply avoid through compliance though. Also
>Letting yourself get literally blackmailed
Not. Even. Once.
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>>88483722
They are literally not allowed to leave if the company doesn't want them to. The only guaranteed leave-date is their contract renewal date.

Nijisanji wants to keep them trapped there as long as possible so they trap them in their contracts and don't allow them to leave for months and months. Rosemi unfortunately signed a new contract just before the Selen incident, so she's been trapped there for almost a full year while wanting to leave
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>>88490162
>They are literally not allowed to leave if the company doesn't want them to.
How? What could they actually do to stop them?
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>>88483315
>The sources? Some randoms online
>How do I know about the coming graduations? Trust me, bro
>Give evidence? What do I look like? An actual journalist?

They're lucky vtuber corporations don't give a fuck about the West because this retard would have been dragged to court already by at least one of them
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>>88489857
>FROOT DIDN'T CHEAT ON HER HUSBAND AND ANYONE THAT SAYS SO IS RETARDED

Funny thing he said that after she literally admitted it. Why does holofags trust him again? Because he's the biggest Niji anti?
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>>88490253
This post reeks of nijiseethe
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>>88490323
>Froot cheated
Proof next thread?
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>>88490253
>>88490323
It's a stupid thing to lie about, if by the end of the year no niji graduates I'm gonna be disappointed.
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>>88490156
Yes, you can, because graduated talents don't get wactored. They know this, we know this, everyone knows this.
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>>88490442
It would be very funny if Niji stalled the queue just to fuck with him, even though that'd never actually happen.
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>>88490442
The chance of at least 1 NijiEN graduating next year is obviously not completely unlikely which is why he could so easily lie about it
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It's one of those things that are vague enough that even if the next graduation happens next year he'll go "I told you so".
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>>88490386
Proof now. Why did False lie? Surely this highly reputable dramashart wouldn't lie
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>>88490323
which page of the document was that on just curious
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>>88490496
Terminated talents don't typically get wactored either, so trying to go with what's normal and sensible isn't really helpful to your case.
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>>88490111
Close. It's not a law that has been passed yet so it's currently a heavily pushed suggestion by the government and the organization they have to check this shit out.
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Considering the fact that they have already given up on twitter and talents keep interacting with graduated livers, then maybe they just don't care anymore
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>>88490564
>I am illiterate and this is proof of my claims!
Lol.
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>>88490078
Okay let me put this in as simple a way as possible
>Employee signs a contract to work for a company for a period of time. Oftentimes 1 or 2 years from contract signing date.
>If you decide to quit and no longer hold up the terms you agreed to when signing the contract, you've now breached the contract and are terminated while being subject to penalties
>You can request to leave before your contract expires, but in order to do so you must do it through the outlined methods.
>In order to avoid penalties, people request to leave early the way the contract outlines
>Alternative 1: Wait until your contract expires, but doing it the proper way lets you leave faster and if you want out why wait longer?
>Alternative 2: Get yourself terminated. If the company terminates you rather than you self terminating, then you're out. The problem is that you have to do something bad enough to get yourself fired, and Niji is clearly letting more things slide because terminating anyone is the last thing they want to do right now. You would have to torpedo your own career at this point to be terminated.
Get it through your pea brain anon.
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>>88483722
There have been several streams, even by a lawyer, going over the Niji contract. They hold you by the balls/tits.
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>>88490564
>ESL anons can't read
What's next? You're going to say HoloEN is unprofitable?
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>>88490253
Haha. Discovery would be really fun.
>>88490507
Yeah, probably difficult for them to stall the queue because contract expiration is a hard deadline. If they stall for too long they might have a situation where multiple talents need to graduate in a single month. And they already stalled it for months.
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>>88490661
>>If you decide to quit and no longer hold up the terms you agreed to when signing the contract, you've now breached the contract and are terminated while being subject to penalties
WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG.

Thanks for playing, retard. Stop talking out of your ass about imaginary bullshit.
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>>88490603
The government and the media both reported they broke the subcontractor act. Which is a law. That they violated. Even other news outlets are accurately reporting that they violated the law but only FalsefagD insists they didn't
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>>88490253
>They're lucky vtuber corporations don't give a fuck about the West because this retard would have been dragged to court already by at least one of them
How did that work with the Japanese Keemstar?
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>>88490768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KvtfMPUunQ
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>>88490543
Only two months are left and when you say
>In the next months
I expect it to be by the end of the year, it's a stupid bet to make if you are not 100% sure.
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>>88490661
Prove that Nijisanji doesn't let people graduate whenever they want. Mika literally said they tried to bargain with her to make her stay, why would they do that if they could have just forced her to stay? Do dramafags think?
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But who in NijiEn can work as an indie?
Who would be picked by another corpo?
Could Yagoo pull another Luna to save someone?
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>>88490253
>this retard would have been dragged to court already by at least one of them
didnt they literally lose to jap keemstar twice?
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>>88490768
Get a job hippie!
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>>88490891
The next months could mean any amount of months ahead it’s that vague of a phrase
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>>88490842
Yea that's the reaction I'd expect from a juvenile retard.
>Retard so fucking infantile he genuinely believes an employment contract signs over your freedom to a company and you can't quit unilaterally at any time with at most having to compensate the company for incurred losses like venue cancellations
>Actually goes on a rant about contracts despite clearly not knowing the first thing about contracts or law in general
Lets hear it anon, where are you from? I'm genuinely interested to find out if the country you live is truly such a shithole that the things you claim are actually true there. And trust me, I can check.
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>>88490575
Someone doxxed Sayu. It's a reasonable fear for the talents to have. Very easy to be brave until you're the one in danger.
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>>88490660
How many times are False "anonymous sources" going to be completely wrong? It's already happened before on multiple occasions and he has never given a bit of evidence
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>>88490940
>Could Yagoo pull another Luna
They are never hiring another ex niji ever again
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>>88490932
Mika was in NijiID which had basically been deemed a failure and is being handled completely differently from NijiEN. Mass graduations were all over NijiID and they basically graduated in waves instead of 1 at a time. All the EN graduates have said that their graduation took some time.
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>>88491013
But again, there is no reason to believe that compliance is the crux of that event. All you have is "someone doxxed Sayu" and not "Sayu got doxxed just like any/all other terminated talents" because we both know that isn't true. People also doxx talents that still work at the company without being terminated or graduated, so the threat of doxx is entirely immaterial here.
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This faggot said something something happened in April and this board also believed it
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>>88491004
Anon tell me why you think breach of contract would not be subject to any penalties of any kind. I'm fascinated to know. Also keep in mind that the contracts have leaked and were looked at by a lawyer which is how we know about the penalties in the first place.
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>>88491161
>Anon tell me why you think breach of contract would not be subject to any penalties of any kind.
I'm not remotely surprised you'd miss the point this badly. Quitting your job isn't a breach of contract, retard, and a company cannot just invent a series of hoops you have to jump through in order to quit, such provisions are subject to actual laws on the matter you spastic moron.

Where. Do. You. Live.
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>>88490826
>>88490718
>>88490978

https://nantejapan.com/anycolor-wins-slander-case-on-behalf-of-yuki-chihiro/

Why do Dramafags think they're invincible?
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>>88491127
I dunno. How did random fans get passport details? Break into anycolor's offices? It's a legitimate concern, and that's enough to scare the talents.
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>>88483315
False is more than a dramatuber. He is a full newstuber.
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>>88491303
"Anycolor" wins.
Funny, that's not what chihiro herself said.
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>>88491390
Sayu posted it herself years ago. She doxxed herself.
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>>88491239
>Sign a contract saying you'll do a job for a year
>Peace out in a month
>Somehow this isn't a reach of contract
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>>88491239
It very much is. The contract specifies what kind of work you are expected to do and the timeframe this job will take place. Its the reason why if you hire somebody to renovate your house and they compromise the integrity of your house or just run with the money you can use the court to take compensation for the damages. If you could just disregard an employment contract because "Nuh uh" then scam workers would run rampant.
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>>88491440
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/news/8b06-ryheetz

Keep coping, holofag
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Nijileaker vindicated yet again
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>the anonymous source in question? /vt/
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I'm next in the graduation queue boys. Wish me luck.
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It's safe to assume livers in the "clique", VTA dodgers and absolute shitters who wouldn't survive being indies are staying.
Scarle is the obvious one that will most likely leave, from all the support she continues to have. Would not be shocked if one of the LuxNoc people also decide to leave, they all have established fanbases that would follow them (i think Fulgur is the most likely, with all his recent PL activity and comnections with ex-livers). People in here REALLY want Rosemi to be next, but at this point, i don't know, if she really wanted to go she could've gone a long time ago.
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>>88491597
I am genuinely curious if more people are going to take the Kunai route of just leaving without saying anything. I forgot to check if Vivi's announcement said she was having a proper goodbye stream or not but I wouldn't be surprised if some people just chose to dip and leave quietly.
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>>88491451
That is correct anon. Do you know what type of contract you're even trying to talk about here? You know there isn't actually such a thing as "a contract" and there are very different, specific types of contract? An employment contract is very different to something like a service contract for example. Contracted work is also very different from employment contracts.
>Retard genuinely thinks quitting your job is a breach of contract
Again, where the fuck do you live you spastic fuck? We can check very easily if what you say has any fucking legal merit. Stop being such a little bitch and put the facts down already.
>>88491467
>The contract specifies what kind of work you are expected to do and the timeframe this job will take place
Nigger that's not an employment contract, that's contracted work.
>Retard who doesn't know the differences between types of contracts is somehow trying to argue contract law
Jesus fucking christ it's like a fucking middleschooler trying to debate about astrophysics and just making shit up.
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Só... Now that AnyColor failed thrice with their oversea expansion, what's next for them?
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>>88486683
I thought notHex was going to japan to visit some of the other lives like Enna...
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>>88491699
Who's correct? One schizo anon on /vt/, or 20+ talents who are enduring a graduation queue to leave a company rather than just walk out. Keep in mind that many of these talents probably consulted lawyers to go over the terms of their contracts themselves.
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>>88490241
They have a noncompete so they can technically sue. But in practice it's nonenforceable. A bigger threat is that if they engage in such action they will become unemployable by any other japanese corpo, such as Hololive
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>>88487876
How hard can it be? there's only, like, 30 of them...
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>>88491303
>anycolor wins
>chihiro had to hire her own lawyers for that lawsuit
kek
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>>88486683
He never said force. You can send it through mail, he just chose to give the phone in person because he was going to Japan anyways.

You also don't get fined for graduation. Stop making shit up
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>>88491721
Accelerating into a wall.

Realistically Riku will last at most a year or two from now before he jumps ship to more lucrative venues, as he's done multiple times in the past. The explosive growth of this particular industry has all but dried up for him and his business has no real way to grow from here, so it makes very little sense for him to keep working away at it unless he has actual passion or nowhere else to go, and being a spoiled rich retard that's not going to be the case either way.
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>>88491529
I know you're desperately looking for a win, but the reason that case ended in Chihiro's favor was because she told Anycolor's legal team to fuck off and bought her own lawyer instead. Niji just took the credit because of course they did.
The exact same thing happened with Roa.

And the worst part? Chihiro went into the red from all of that and got absolutely nothing but her money and time wasted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et69TrJvHSg
>Mirabom: If you sue, let's get yakiniku with that money
>Chihiro: If I do it'd be plus, sure...
>Mirabom: Definitely plus, at least 5 million dollars!
>Chihiro: It'd be nice if it was that much
>Chihiro: So obviously I've sued already, but somehow...
>Chihiro: Someone said "it's like you got a 10k akasupa, lol)
>Chihiro: But it wasn't that much of a plus at all...
>Mirabom: But wouldn't you get a ton of money from the trial?
>Chihiro: It cost a LOT of money.
>Chihiro: First of all there was getting the disclosure of their information which cost a lot.
>Mirabom: It'd take a lot of time with all that useless bullshit (to sift through is what I think he's saying but correct me if I'm wrong)
>Chihiro: And speaking with my lawyer with a bunch of different things of course took a lot of time and money...
>Chihiro: It wasn't a plus at all.
>Mirabom: Then I'll go plus! (In kill points)
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>>88491784
>20 lawyers vs a nigga who posts WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG seriously lmao
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>>88483722
You can't just fucking ask to quit, Anon.
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>>88489986
>Then the convention says that never happened
But they did say it happened though?
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>>88491840
>You also don't get fined for graduation.
The company itself decides when you're allowed to graduate. The date they set could be 1 year in the future if they desire.
And if you want to leave early, they will fine you a year worth of your earnings. You must wait for the graduation date the company set
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>>88491835
Did you just post the unrelated 5ch transcript of her talking about her sister as proof
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>>88491784
>Uhhhh. It's not like the law is written down or anything, so clearly we can just go with the interpretations of the masses or something... hurrrr...
>many of these talents probably consulted lawyers
Yeah remember how that actually went down in the actual example we have of a talent hiring a lawyer? Remember what happened? You do remember, right? Apparently you don't or you wouldn't be saying what you're saying here you dumb fucking retard.
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>Mutajeet fled twitter
>asmoncuck trooned out and got canceled and banned
>doobi, sakuna, and rica are back completely BTFOing holonigger narratives about their garden of eden
>phase keeps getting BLACKED
Can you feel the pendulum swinging back? I do
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>>88491874
>Source? My ass

Literally nothing you said proves it was her own money
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>>88491934
>They will fine you
>Somehow....
They can't, though.
>B-but the contract?!
Such a clause is entirely unenforceable.
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>>88491934
The date can't be set past your contract expiration date. Because unless they literally put a gun to your head and force you sign a new contract once that time runs out you're no longer part of the company. The date has to be earlier than your contract expiration date, because letting multiple contracts expire at once is a nightmare scenario for them in a PR standpoint.

Unless they do a merger. Then it's NijiID all over again and EN graduates in waves lol.
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>>88492004
How can she say the money wasn't a plus if she didn't spend the money herself?
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>>88491907
Them dropping Niji immediately and tweeting that they had nothing to do with Niji personally means that Niji forced them to reject vendors?
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>>88491239
>>88491467
Guys... The contract clearly contains illegal provisions, but do you really expect these 20+ yo kids to go "hey, I know my rights, and I've retained (expensive) counsel when I barely make enough to survive (later gens). They could sue me and dox me, but I totally think they're bluffing."
Even if you have the money to fight this, you might as well bide your time while you get a new model done on the side.
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>>88492020
>unenforceable
if you want to work for a japanese company ever again? you can't break the contract
Mint probably has dreams of Hololive. She couldn't walk out her Nijisanji contract and had to wait a full year of painful agony until she was finally allowed to leave
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>>88492075
>Mint probably has dreams of Hololive.
Eh. I doubt it. She's said herself that she's plenty satisfied with the size she's at..
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>>88491699
Okay, let's say you get called to court because Anycolor is suing you for damages. They claim you going awol has harmed the "brand" that they own (let's say you are a Niji liver named Dumfuk Vantabandage) and have caused significant damage to various things like merch sales, sponsorship deals, and even stock prices through your actions. What will be your defense you tell the judge?
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>>88491965
Are you talking about Doki? Or someone in JP? Because Doki was terminated and I didn't see anything about her having some grand legal victory over Nijisanji.
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>>88492075
>if you want to work for a japanese company ever again? you can't break the contract
Lol. Why are you talking about a breach of contract when the topic was whether or not AnyColor could fine its employees a year of their salary somehow?
>She couldn't walk out her Nijisanji contract and had to wait a full year of painful agony until she was finally allowed to leave
There is a fucking galaxy of difference between "couldn't" and "didn't want to".
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>>88492004
nijisister trying too hard to get w kek
you love to see it
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all the livers waiting to graduate should band together and rebel against the company. i think that would be funny
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>>88492062
Wrong convention nijitard
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>>88492160
>They claim you going awol has harmed the "brand" that they own
Not a legal claim. Not a case that would ever be accepted by a judge. Please stop inventing nonsense.
>>88492181
>Doki was terminated
Doki hired a lawyer to negotiate her departure, Nijisanji terminated her in response. No fines. No fees. Her reputation is pristine and Niji's is in the gutter. Tell me again about how all these compliant talents totally hired lawyers (we know Kuro, Matara and Michi didn't) and how that worked out regarding all this "muh breach of contract" rubbish.
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>>88492192
Maria stated pretty plainly that Pomu had already decided to graduate 6 months before it even happened. Even came with an anecdote about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BqyuE1YSz4
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>>88491934
>The company itself decides when you're allowed to graduate
They actually don't because multiple members have said that they would decide to graduate months in advance and they choose when Niji gives the announcement. Mysta said he chose to graduate a long time in advance and used the time in between to finish the things he signed up for
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>>88492181
>Doki hired a laywer and Niji folded instantly
Proves you wrong doesn't it?
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>>88492360
>Her reputation is pristine and Niji's is in the gutter.
but she still became unemployable because of Anycolors dominant market position. Any company that maintains relationships with Anycolor will never hire Doki now. So she's stuck as an indie forever
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>>88490323
>Funny thing he said that after she literally admitted it.
cool, just pull up your proof of her ever saying that and false will be exposed as a liar instead of, you know, you.
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>>88492393
And Mika said nijisanji sprung the graduation date on her
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>>88492377
She had to wait 6 months before she could leave? Is that a contract thing or is it some corpo bullshit?
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>>88492360
Her reputation is pristine because of the circumstances she left under which painted Niji in an extremely bad light. Tell that to Sayu who was also terminated and demonized as a result.
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>>88492444
Learn to read
>>88490564
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>>88492377
And the sky is blue, what does that have to do with the subject?
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>>88492393
>Mysta said he chose to graduate a long time in advance and used the time in between to finish the things he signed up for
What Mysta *actually* said is that he wanted to leave in December but they forced him to stay another 6 months
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>>88492434
>will never hire Doki now.
what? while likely true, this is a hilarious point to make.
However, Cover has allowed the holostars to collaborate her and talk about her freely on main. I'm pretty sure HoloID has mentioned her a few times as well. It's really just a matter of time for HoloEN.
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>>88492491
sir that's a jpg with text on it, that's not proof of anything
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>>88492506
No he didn't. He said he stayed to do the events because he signed up for them and didn't want to complicate or ruin shit by leaving.
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>>88492434
>but she still became unemployable
Bull. She is self employed and owns her own company and has no interest in working at another corpo.
>Any company that maintains relationships with Anycolor will never hire Doki now.
Also bull, and Doki is literally swamped with sponsorships to the detriment of her content (imo)
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>The autistic contractsperg is a Dokifag
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>>88490442
False doesn't research anything. He simply hears something from an anonymous retard online and spreads it
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>>88492477
Sayu is doing fine. Traumatised by the experience I suppose but that's no different to many of the graduated talents. Mint, Matara, Kuro and particularly Michi have all talked at length about how miserable it all was, so it's not as though Sayu's experience is entirely unique, nor was every terminated talent treated anywhere near as badly as she was. Everything points to Sayu being the exception here, and not the norm.
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>>88492477
Sayu deserves to be demonized after getting her faggots to harass Quinn for nearly two years while knowing he didn't do anything to get the entire time
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>>88492652
>The "contract sperg" talks about one of the best examples of a person in the industry actually hiring a lawyer and the results thereof and that BTFOs me completely so I now sperg out like this
I accept your concession I suppose.
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>>88492715
They left under completely different circumstances. Sayu's name wasn't really even cleared until Doki's termination because the general assumption was that it was her fault she got fired even if she felt bad about it. The others also got to leave under normal circumstances so their complaints about Niji have more to do with things like the fanbase it comes with or the bad management, not the tidal wave of hate, threats, doxing, etc that happened to Sayu. To compare them in terms of severity is silly.
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>>88492575
>Doki is literally swamped with sponsorships to the detriment of her content (imo)
https://youtu.be/VbhFgrMxHns?t=442
For the record, she said that the sponsorships were mainly to pay for dealing with all the merch fuckups, and that after she finishes setting up the merch pipeline, she'll ease up on sponsors since she can have the money from merch instead.
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>>88492715
>>88492791
the duality of man
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>>88492814
>Company terminates the contract with an employee
>The employee doesn't get hit with the typical breach of contract penalties as a result
Wow! Great example anon. Now point to someone who left without penalty and wasn't a result of a termination lmfao
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>>88483315
What is next for False once NijiEN gets folded into JP?
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>>88492911
qrd?
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>>88493015
They’re not in nijiu
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>>88492990
complete anycolor domination
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>>88492990
main branch still existed.
TOTAL NIJI DEATH
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>>88492861
>Sayu's name wasn't really even cleared until Doki's termination
Sayu's name was fine to anyone who wasn't a sister. The problem with Sayu is that she lacked enough of a presence/fandom to push back against the retarded rrats the sisters were peddling and impressionable retards bought the loudly spread bullshit. Anyone over the age of 20 who wasn't completely retarded could tell Sayu did nothing wrong and was treated horribly.
>The others also got to leave under normal circumstances so their complaints about Niji have more to do with things like the fanbase it comes with or the bad management
Watch streams. Every single one of them talks about how they were treated as disposable and without personal or individual merit outside the company, and how this affected them. Mint left on probably the best terms possible and still clearly struggles with self worth because how badly her time at Niji affected her. The point there is that staying with Niji is clearly not much less destructive than leaving on bad terms, so the threat of consequences for leaving on bad terms isn't exactly a big deal now is it?
>not the tidal wave of hate, threats, doxing, etc that happened to Sayu.
But again, Sayu (and Doki's as well) case is a bit more unique because she also doesn't compare to other terminated livers. You cannot use her as the norm or standard when it comes to termination because she obviously isn't. The reason she got a tidal wave of hate is because her termination is utterly unjustifiable, so they tried to drown the truth with a tidal wave of hatred. They tried the same with Doki and failed. The issue here isn't "leaving on bad terms gets you hate" the issue is "Nijisanji is a pile of shit and when they fire you for their own reasons they will send you a tidal wave of hate to cover their own asses"
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>>88492990
What happens next is False wakes up and starts to seethe over Riku not folding EN. Then he cried and runs to 4chan for more "anonymous sources" to find something to report on
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>>88492906
The Quinn sister is no man.
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>>88492939
>Employee tells company they want to quit
>Company can't do shit, fires them instead to preserve the myth that you can't just quit
>This confuses the infantile anon
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>>88492911
It probably won't be them. It'll probably be some shitter that's barely a presence in EN. Like Reimu or Kotoka.
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>>88483315
I 100% believe him, as far as the dramafags go he's by far the least retarded and a lot of vtubers actually trust him. He's had some actual investigative journalism before.
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>>88491056
They have a anti competition partnership that they won't get ex talents of each after getting luna
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>>88493285
>a lot of vtubers actually trust him
Literally who? Only fucking Sayu and other dramafags associate with him. He also been caught lying multiple times
>He's had some actual investigative journalism before
No he hasn't. He just repeats what people tell him
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>>88493355
>No he hasn't. He just repeats what people tell him
Anon... what do you think investigative journalism involves if not interviewing people and relaying what they say and looking over publicly available records?
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>>88493264
both of them is joining niji usic festival.
if the graduation on november then fatgur or alban, if the graduation on december then it can be anyone.
the rrat said on november if nothing change
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>>88493186
>implying it isn't Quinn himself
He's known to lurk /here/, why do you think he knows about Ennafags raging about the cuck shit.
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>>88493413
He has interviewed people. That have already said what they told him before publicly. And anyone can look over the publicly available records. He is not a real journalist, he doesn't even check for accuracy before peddling bullshit
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>>88492990
Realistically he'll focus on positive holo and indie news like he already does. The vids will be less popular, but this was always a hobby for him to begin with, but he'll continue to report on any NijiJP fuckups.
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>>88493531
>He is not a real journalist, he doesn't even check for accuracy before peddling bullshit
I do sort of agree with you there. He was copying Legal Mindset's dumbass horseshit verbatim and applied absolutely zero critical thought to the matter when I think it's fairly obvious the guy was talking out of his ass for almost the entire time he spoke about Doki/Niji yabs. Issues ranging from being a lawyer but not referencing case law at all, to not knowing the damn basic facts of the situation and needing to be informed by chat, to actually genuinely suggesting livers could sue their employer for "lots" of money when the max fines wouldn't even cover the legal costs.
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So who's it gonna be?
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>>88493892
Move Kotoka to graduation unthinkable. She's living life right now hanging out with ecelebs. She doesn't care about streaming or an audience, so she definitely doesn't plan on giving that up.
I'd also replace Vox and sonny with vanta and shu respectively.
Alban's probably in the possible category.
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>>88493892
Bullshit tier list
Fulgur in likely? He is unthinkable
Petra is in school
No one but kotoka makes any sense in possible graduation, but even that is unlikely as she has a lot of ties to JP
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>>88493892
claude
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>>88493892
>Niji bootlicker in "imminent graduation risk"
?
>Petra likely
???
>Vox likely
The dude literally has no future outside of Niji and is massively favoured in the company. Why the FUCK would he leave?
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well ver's recent posting on his pl sounds like he's about to be graduating from life
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>>88494023
You somehow managed to propose even worse list. Congrats.
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>>88494023
update you news.
the management is screwed up his long project with a lame excuse : its not maketable
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>>88494061
>>Niji bootlicker in "imminent graduation risk"
To be fair, that was both Pomu and Hex.
>>88494092
What?
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>>88493633
Only the most deranged retards who live on this board consider those fucks to be reliable sources of information and it's only because it's convenient. If they attack the wrong "audience" , they'd just immediately be treated like the grifters they are.
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>>88494092
As long as they can keep selling his acrylic standees that's fine.
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>>88487887
Twisty is trying anon
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>>88494117
Doesn't mean he's going to rage quit everything
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>>88494119
>Pomu
Nah. Pomu was "compliant" to the point where she was just submissive in general, but she already spoke up against Niji in memberships here and there. Few people who watched her were actually surprised when she left.
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>>88494140
he said it himself in tweeter he is not marketable kek
basically admitting no one wont buy his merch
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>>88494124
Ding ding. The likes of false, rima and parrot have cultivated a fanbase of their own at his point. However they can get overwhelmed quickly if a bigger fish goes after them
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>>88494192
Fucking nobody watches Nijisanji these days, so there's nobody to tell what they're doing in memberships, ennaschizo aside.
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>>88494172
eh i mean pomu did the same after her oppurtunity get denied
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I can't think of a bigger waste of my time than watching Pinkeye or Griftermindset when I could be watching cute vtubers. How do any of you even have enough time in your day to watch them? Actually never mind, I know the answer already.
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>>88493633
Confirmed retarded threadreader.

>to actually genuinely suggesting livers could sue their employer for "lots" of money when the max fines wouldn't even cover the legal costs
Since the very start he insisted that while niji organs would have a CASE they shouldn't pursue it because they have no chance of winning financially vs a big company.
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>>88494124
I consider False to be pretty reliable at just reporting news stuff like upcoming events, merch, major collabs, new debuts and such. Actual reporting on ongoing yabs though? Not a good source at all, but journalists never actually are.
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>>88483484
>NijiEN mass graduation would spook everyone, including investors, and it will confirm that NijiEN is truly dead
At this point, they only really need to stall for a bit less than 26 hours. Tomorrow's the last calendar and trading day of the fiscal quarter, and also the end of EN's final month and quarter of positive net revenue.
And as far as "spooking" anyone is concerned, EN was all but officially written off when AC explicitly excluded the branch from their FY 2025 revenue forecasts. About the only people who expect the branch to still officially exist on April 30, and the only people who will be surprised by the imminent merger/closure, are the non-vtuber employees in the branch who will get sacked the millisecond the branch officially ends operations.
>>88485761
It's not merely "you can just leave" once the contract expires, it's more like "Anycolor MUST let you leave." They cannot legally keep anyone past the contract expiration date, no matter how much face they think they would lose. If a bunch of livers' contracts expire within a few days of each other and none of them signed a contract extension, Niji MUST let them go the moment their contracts expire, no matter how badly their stock would tank if they put out a press release announcing e.g. 7 graduations in three day period.
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>>88494192
I mean notHex has also thrown shade at niji, but in a way that is not too offensive.
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>>88494275
i heard tomorrow is the time limit for divident? everyone is doompoosting in yahoo it will decrease stock price below 2k on 1st november
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>>88494252
>N-no see this one thing y-you talked about was t-totally true b-but really it's all different!
Lol. What a fucking cocksucker. >>88494124
was right. An actual proper lawyer had to go out of his way to put a correction for all his bullshit, specifically the part about payout and fines you dumb fuck.
>Threadshitter calling other people threadreader
What a dog.
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>>88494371
I only needed one thing to prove you're a retarded shitposter lying through his teeth. No point wasting more time debunking your other lies when it's clear you're bullshitting. Now, kindly kill yourself.
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>>88483315
Yup, it was a real ripcord moment after Zaion left - not because she was particularly good or missed, but rather all the garbage in the background of manager work ethic came out in full frontal -
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>>88494371
His overall stance was that it was correct, but that some of the details were inaccurate.
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>disappears for weeks and misses a bunch of shit
>comes back with this
it better be true
i'll enjoy the nijiseethe and meltdown while they panic
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>>88494449
>I only needed to lie about one thing to bullshit about what you said
FTFY. You can keep accusing me of the very things you're openly and explicitly doing though, but it won't work.
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>>88494481
>Some
Lol. Actually watch his video on the matter instead of pasting comments by other threadshitters. He basically threw everything out beside the general (and obviously very accurate) assessment that Nijisanji are a bunch of absolute shitbags. He specifically went out of his way to establish how high the fines would be (trivial amounts) for a reason.
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>>88494561
So you are technically anti niji but also think legal mindset is a retarded grifter. Shit what do I call you now?
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>>88483315
now only rosemi left to release from prison and nijisanji can burn to the ground
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>>88494699
just use dramafag. It covers those kinds of people. They don't actually care about cover or vtubers and just come /here/ to shitpost.
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>>88494701
Don't forget doppio
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No graduation from Niji could actually surprise me at this point because there's no way in hell anyone still remaining there wants to be there
the top level clique members maybe but even them I could see fleeing like rrats from a sinking ship
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>>88494701
She doesn’t want to leave
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>>88494699
They are by no means mutually exclusive. I would genuinely advocate for the entirely of AnyColor to be shut down for the immoral shit they have been proven to pull, let alone the shit that undoubtedly occurs behind the scene. People grifting off of drama and spreading uncritical nonsense are also trash and deserve no respect. Legal Mindset spread some really harmful lies that still persist to this day, like the myth AnyColor can just fine their livers several months of pay (there is no legal way for them to do this, and he should know that) and that kind of bullshit being broadly believed is exactly what black companies abuse to trick and fool their employees into accepting their horseshit.

Corporations and black companies love these kinds of myths. JP corpos love the retarded belief that JP law is very strict against defamation to the point where you cannot post critical opinions of JP corps. This is absolutely untrue but hey, people believe it and this stops them from being critical of JP corpos and this greatly benefits them. Legal myths are dangerous, and lawyers of all people spreading them are insufferable. Know your rights and stand up for them. Look at the actual law, or more importantly it's application in case law, don't just go off of what the media tells you about them, they just want sensationalist rubbish.
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>>88494830
dop's not leaving without ver
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>>88494804
>Not liking drama grifters or Nijisanji makes you a dramafag

Zero self awareness
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>>88494347
I don't know if that's the case, I don't speak enough regular Nihongo (much less Business Nihongo) to know how their dividends gambit will play out. All I know is that for Anycolor, Q2 is from August to October, and tomorrow is the last trading day of October.
Oh, and the stock is currently lower now than it was on the close on Sept 11 (2255) right before they announced the dividends. The next day, the first day after they announced dividends, the close was 2397; and the close was at or above that level almost every day until Oct 9 (2426)

Incidentally, this weekend will be a 3 day weekend on the stock market due to a holiday on Monday; and also the last long weekend before the New Year break. So if AC wants or needs to publish some bad news that they know will drop the stock price, and cannot not publish the bad news, this Friday at 1500 JST would probably be the best time to do it.
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>>88494951
Ver is a beta male. He will get dragged along if doppi forces him
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>>88485058
It’s either Fulgur or none at all between Vivi’s grad and NijiFes.
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>>88494923
What makes you think she doesn't want to leave, apart from the fact that Niji haven't published a graduation announcement?
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>>88495008
While I'd be surprised if they announce EN merger on Friday, it'd probably be the best time for it.
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>>88494923
she barely streams anymore though
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>>88483722
I have to say I'm curious why more of them don't just cease streaming altogether and just pursue regular jobs until at least their contracts run out (maybe that's what Kunai did?). I'm sure a good amount of them have no skills outside of streaming, but surely at least a few of them have some sort of employment ability.
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>>88495444
Anon, quite a few of them work other jobs, especially in the newer waves. It's quite common among smaller streamers (see phase for example)
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>>88483722
Because they don't want to burn bridges.
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>>88494923
She's been completely avoiding the other NijiEN members except some mandatory interaction with Petra for the anniversary. She has one foot out the door already
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>>88483315
Did this False guy just straight up say Dooby is Ame?
Does noone care about PLs anymore?
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So uh.. who do you guys think are in the queue?
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>>88495101
I'm also not expecting it so soon, in fact I don't expect even an announcement of it until after Luxiem's anniversary. But that presumes that EN management can successfully lobby upper management to keep the branch open that long, especially since that anniversary is a week and a half after the Q2 report will be published.
If they announce the branch merger on Thursday or Friday, and it's with immediate effect as the ID/KR merger was, then Eien Project and Production Kawaii will both have officially outlived Niji EN (though only just barely in Eien's case)

Oh, and Niji Music Fest is the same weekend as Luxiem's anniversary, Dec 20-22. Streaming tickets are available now until Jan 5, so they might not officially close EN before then. They might, but they might not, and I think it's somewhat unlikely unless Q2 is a bigger disaster than Q3 was back in March.
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>>88495679
Yes.
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>>88495699
The issue with predictions here is that expecting common sense from AnyColor is kind of an unwarranted expectation at this point.
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I used to rule the world...
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>>88495679
Someone who
>has been active on their pl/rm
>doesn't care anymore
>isn't being promoted by the company
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>>88495679
ye-
>>88495746
hey ):<
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Literally all of NijiEN shit could be remedied by hiring actually competent management and telling petra and millie to quit alt tabbing over disc
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>>88496032
Hmm...
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>>88496055
That was a mistake
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https://streamable.com/8bwgal
Vivi...
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>>88496048
>could be remedied
Could have been remedied. Not possible now. Their big hitters are gone. Luxiem is reduced to nothing and the face of their branch ( elira) is one of the most hated person in the vtubing industry.
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>>88496217
Nothing short of Riku doing a naked dogenza into seppuku could redeem Niji.
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>>88495699
ID and KR weren't actually immediate. The merger was announced mid February, with it being made official mid April. Almost exactly 2 months. With that knowledge, Nijisanji could theoretically announce a merger on November 1st with it being in effect on Jan 1st, which would line up for the new year.

Actually, that might be closer to reality than we think. The fact that nearly every NijiEN vtuber is participating, it may be possible that they're using this as a last hurrah and a grand thing of the Nijisanji "Family" being fully whole. Combined with the fact that it would also probably have some Luxiem sisters buy what is potentially the "last NijiEN merch" and honestly it's looking very realistic.
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Rrat: the "source" is the same liver who confirmed that Raziel's story was true to False
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>>88496156
jesus, that's pretty definitive.
God, she sounds super nice. I really hope she recovers.
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>>88497090
Sunny definitely will help her recover. Hopefully Doki and Mint help too.
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>>88494948
>JP corpos love the retarded belief that JP law is very strict against defamation to the point where you cannot post critical opinions of JP corps.
dont think this one is a myth since its the reason why connor didnt discuss the niji debacle
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>>88497933
>Muh Connor
Connor is a foreigner living in Japan and he's being overly cautious. Connor is also on record being full of shit plenty of times, so I have no fucking clue why you'd consider him a particularly good source of information OVER JUST LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL FUCKING LAW
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>>88495606
no one cares about obvious as fuck information, yes
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>>88495606
That whole taboo is thankfully dead, as it was mostly a weapon corpos could use to discourage talents from leaving.
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>>88483722
Several reasons. If you just quit you don't get a real graduation, which is skipping a big payday and you fans don't get any closure. You're also breaking your contract which means paying fees and not leaving the company on good terms.
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>>88498628
>Quitting is breaking contract
Retard.
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>>88498751
Yes? If you sign a one year contract and quit 6 months into it you're breaking contract.
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>>88498628
Where do you live that you can't just stop showing up to work one day without "breaking contract"? That shit sounds dystopian as fuck and not even a pro-corporate shithole like America does this, since the norm there is at will employment. The whole two weeks notice thing? That's not actually a requirement nor is it enforceable if someone demands it in a contract, that's just the "decent" thing to do.

The only exception is with essential workers, a doctor has responsibilities they can't just neglect if they want to quit, so they'd have to make sure patients are properly handed off and such.
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>>88498959
No, you're not. Quitting a job is not in any way breaking contract. An employment contract doesn't work that way you immature idiot. Where the hell did you hear this? Who told you this?
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>>88483315
Buy an ad.
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>>88483315
Hmmm
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>>88499033
>>88499066
If you sign a contract that you will stream or provide a certain amount of content for one year and you quit early you are breaking that contract. Not sure why this is confusing.



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