>Dooby's going to revolutionize vtubing with her newly acquired talent freedom just watch!She's just sitting there reading chat. She hasn't done anything she couldn't do in hololive since her redebut. Meanwhile Shiori with her "corporate rules holding her back" is a actually doing creative shit. This is kson all over again. Talent freedom is a fucking meme.
what happened to niji this time
>>88556845makes you wonder why she left to begin with
>>88557160 Holo's stocks spiked up despite all their bait threads about the guidelins thing while Niji continues to fall. Vivi slew all rrats that the antis were the ones who made her want to quit and confirmed it was the company's neglect and mistreatment.
>>88556845>he fell for a woman's excuses
>>88556845Shiori, Cecilia, and Gigi have shown me the lie for what it is.
>>88556845Talent freedom from having company meetings at 3am.
>>88556845SHE JUST HAS ADHD. this is clear from the debut when she talks about the idea of what she wants to stream.
>>88556845yeah i just watched whole stream. It baffles me how ame finds excuses after excuses over talent freedom while shiori just did the la creatividad since the start of her debut. Really shows the creative mind differences when laid out
>>88557881This. She's also not required to dance and sing every year. I feel like just learning the dances is such a time sink.
>>88556845The funniest shit to come out of indie ame is all the people saying shit like>HOLY FUCK SHE JUST USED MONKEY BARS... IN VR?! SHES GOING TO REVOLUTIONIZE THE INDUSTRY!
>She hasn't done anything she couldn't do in hololive since her redebutWrong, she played Roblox
>>88556845Its so over for doobifags
>>88557160Ex-holos are essentially nijis tohugh.
>>88559240What's even funnier is that the monkey bars aren't even tracked, it's just a PNG of monkey bars that was lined up to be in the same place as them
>>88558824this 100%, and now she has the money/resources to escape the rigid structure and experimenthopefully she finds her passion
Doki and Mint fell off because they do 99% solo streams and the remaining 1% collabs is their random friend circle bubble without reaching out to anyone. Hope doob doesn't go that route.
>>88556845>RevolutionizeRetard this shit was coined by Kizuna fucking Ai with the whole "3D moving around doing shit" and it was a norm for those ancient chuubas until Tsukino Mito came alongDo you know why this 3D trend dies down and live2D becomes a new norm? I will let you find the answer
>>88557160>Why doobiefags think that any criticism against this traitor is related to Niji
>day 4>already less ccv than fucking filian let alone ironmouse/veibae/other big indieswhat gives?
>>88559502Why the fuck would you put tracking on a static object, dumbass. Having your set lined up with your tracking space is exactly what you're supposed to do and is harder than you think.
>>88556845so true novelcuck
>>88559201>joined idol company>surprisedpikachu.png over doing idol activitieslet me guess, whole myth hires expected the company to not do anything else beside streaming only
>>88560222newfag
>>88560222No vtuber wants to sing and dance. Anyone who says they do is lying for money. Simple ass.
>>88559657>traitor Retard.
>>88560088Oof
>>88559562Doki and Mint at least were in Niji which is significantly less of a walled garden than Holo is so they had friends outside the corpo. How much networking did Doob do in 4 years inside the box?
>>88560168>doobfags already resorted to "no u" and pulled out cuck out of context>meanwhile ame in a context
>>88556845Does Shiorin do ASMR for members? I like her whispering voice.
>>88560278>using Subaru, one of the biggest idols in Hololive, to shitpost against idolsNothing is sacred to you ENiggers
>>88560278and? They all wanted to be idol except what he said >>88560328
>>88556845Anon, the talent freedom is not having to beg for perms and not having to attend meetings at 4am where everybody is speaking japanese and you have no idea what the fuck is going on.Hololive has to be some kind of cult at this point if fans get so aggressive the second a talent implies it is not the best thing ever or even dares to leave.
>>88560328>saying this when there are multiple IRL idols in the company
>>88560962Here comes the moving goalpost
>>88560923>whore who got fucked by great o khan lmao
>>88560962catalog poster patterns resemble nijisisters' but since their both from Southeast Asia I guess it's more of a SEA cultural thing
>>88561106I dont what know imaginary goalpost you made in your mind anon
>>88560923>posting quotes to disprove a point>shitpostingnewfag AND retarded
>>88560770novelkeks and teakeks are the proudest cucks
>>88561106Alhamdulillah SEAbros
>>88561106>hololive taught me that I find women more likeable when they are forced to cater to what I likeNo shit dumbass
>>88560515he's right though.
>>88561293Schizophrenic tantrums don't translate into facts. Maybe in your shithole brown 3rd world country where logic doesn't exist.
>>88560962>please just wake up slightly earlier, once a year wow so oppressive
>>88561106>"She hasn't done anything she couldn't do in hololive since her redebut"
>>88561276all women should cater to what men like
>>88561177Hololive was doing idolshit way before your ensharts were even thinking of joining you faggot. Trying to “disprove” that your lazy twitch whores aren’t just lazy twitch whores is just retatded.
>>88560962Here comes the cope
>Stop bringing Gura up! I'm my own person!>I'm not her shadow or her +1!
>>88560222Dooby was always a twitch streamer, all twitchtubers just want money from the exploding vtubing trend back in 2019/2020, they didn't actually like anime and shit you goofy weeaboos.
>>88561822cope, ken-sama.
>>88556845Wait, did Shiori make her own VR Chat game or something?
silly anon, you graduate from corpos to do /less/ creative streams not more
>>88562924This is a world she made using Unity
>>88562685is there a gura stream im unaware of?
>>88563358Yeah, Shiori's wild. She's been working on this for ages.
Why does everyone ignore her ADHD and talk about something she never mentions?
>>88556845They play video games and read chat all day, I know its somewhat taxing to play things when you really don't want to but its still an easier ride than almost any other job."Talent freedom" is mostly a meme, hololive corpo-tubers mostly seem to have support where they need it to do what they do and get 3D models + more as part of being in the group even if it takes a while. Plus they'll likely be able to slack a little and still have good collabs or maintain a fanbase and some relevance with the brand. "Dooby" seems like she's trying for a very hololive-styled appearance but just on her own, which begs the question...why even leave? Her character model looks vaguely similar here and aside from slightly lewder toggle options I can't see the game plan when shes clearly trying to be a goodball and not a whore (yet).
Freedom to do multiple stream topics in a single streamFreedom to not have to deal with perms bullshitFreedom from idol training shitFreedom from Japanese red tape bullshitFreedom to use her own 3D studioDidn't she do some monkey bar swinging in 3D a few days ago?
>>88559105What did Shiori do?
>>88564339don't you dare bring up model, Ame name and model are perfect, model can never be a reason for leaving. as i screaming, she has ADHD and want to stream like twitch streamer. or is that reason too boring?
>>88564352This entire list boils down to "do the minimum amount of effort to milk her paypigs".Didn't work out for kson.
This sounds like when Nijis leave.
>>88564819If she wanted to do the minimum amount of effort, she'd just pull a gura/ayame.
>>88565760You're already getting grudgeposted about her bleeding numbers at an alarming rateYou want to set yourself up for getting grudgeposted once she inevitably gets bored of streaming again?
>>88565854I honestly don't care about your numbermonkey nonsense.She's fun, so I'm watching her. If she stops, I won't. If I like her, I'll spend money. It's really that simple. You sound like the sisters crying "OMG DOOKI LOST 90% VIEWERSHIP"
>TLDRFIGHT ALREADY FUCKING MONKEYS
>>88557160This. If something smacks of sour grapes you know it's a Nijideflect.
>>88565854>bad streamer :\>bad streamer big numbers:o
>>88561106>Pic.Every last society figured this out. One day, our society will figure it out, and strip women of all "rights".
>>88556845Why nijitroons keep trying to pit holo vs dooby ??
>creative content>only does reactions and reads chatWow, so creative.
>>88569024>Literally talked shit about Hololive on her debut
>>88556845dooby wound up being the real dooky all this time... it's like pottery...
>>88559657Holofans love ex members as long as they left in good terms
>>88564352>Freedom to do multiple stream topics in a single streamMeanwhile Raora does multiple chattini days where she streams 12 hours doing lots of stuffCici just did multiple streams on oktoberfest.Heck even Ame did steam games collab day.She just dont want to admit she hated doing idolshit and meetings kek
>>88563564Ame got annoyed that people kept calling her "Gura's girlfriend" 3 years ago and now antis joke that she's been living in Gura's shadow ever since.
I knew bronies would turn on her eventually but didn't expect it to be this fast. What happened to all the love and crying when she was leaving?
>>88571219>What is selection biasOf course her remaining fans will be there for her not-graduation. People who didn't like her probably wouldn't waste their time on it if they legit don't like her and also aren't schizo enough to cause a scene - which most people aren't.
>>88571219People are disappointed how she left her friends in Holo just to do the same shit she was doing before. If she would stop streaming entirely or do something completely different people wouldnt be so angry.
>>88556845>hasnt done anything she couldnt do in hololiveshe did doxx herself so thats something new i guess
>>88558824>>88559520So why doesn't she unironically take her meds?
>>88571560Her ADHD makes her forget to take her meds, and she has no close family members who care enough about her.
>>88571219I've hated that homocollabing whore for 2 years now and wanted her gone. All whores need to leave.
>>88556845It was never about freedom to do some groundbreaking projects the "restrictions" Ame was under was her own schedule and being unable to change shit like games she plays on a whim because she doesn't feel like playing them anymore after 15 minutes etc. it's her own ADHD brain she refused to medicate nothing deeper.
>>88571219We always hated lazy whores
>>88571758doesn't she live with family and a brother?
>>88571969A "brother"
>>88571758Fuck, That's too real. It just never turns itself into a habit. I HAVE to have a little pill case for the week or I forget if I've taken it or not that day.
>>88572047>It just never turns itself into a habitIm fairly sure that adhd itself makes it almost impossible to acquire "good" habits. Kinda like a bug in a reward system or whatever.
>>88560589Ame was on record that she doesn't want to collab outside of hololive for a long time, eventually she did a few Selen collabs with Mumei where she barely talked (and homos of course integrating them into hololive was her last big project really and she died on that hill).
>>88560962>things that never happened.jpgwell it probably happened a few times and people keep shitposting about it for years and years as if this high level meeting (often to introduce new members) were a daily occurrence.
>>88560222Nobody cares about that dancing jap crap.
>>88571758>Her ADHD makes her forget to take her medsif she goes off her meds when she's on her meds, then that doesn't make her medically unmedicable, it's just a dooby problem. hashtag doobyway
God seeing how low ccv she's already reached makes me feel so fucking vindicated, these whores need a wake-up call that they are literally nothing without the Holo branding
>>88557230>Singing>Dancing>Sexual favors to investors
>>88564668I mean yes it does sound super lame when you think about it, something she should be able to deal with one way or another start multiple yt streams or something.>>88571152I thought she's still doing karaokes and tik tok dances in 3D though? Hell she might even appear in Myth events or the next concert since she's not completely out.
>>88571352>Ame >friends
>>88573061doesn't that just mean holo talents are pretty mediocre
>>88573394Not really, its more like Hololive makes them interesting by restricting them. If this is as entertaining as she can be now that she's on her own, then its just another example of how being in Hololive amplifies even the most boring and basic of bitches
>>88573323If anything with her affiliate status hopefully she comes back to her senses and realize going solo indie is not as easy as she think it is.
>>88571428she's also charging for Vtuber consulting now, honestly it's the only part that really rubs me the wrong way after sabotaging her career for 2+ years not to mention you know people will pay her for advice how to pass holo auditions rather than how to avoid scuff in your streams or grow an audience on your own it's pretty fucking obvious she will monetize wannabe holos (or lash out at people asking her about it in a few months if she's actually retarded)
>>88573694too prideful for that I'm affraid, Vshojo will come to her with a bag of money and she will take it after a year or so just to spite people terminal contrarian that she is.
>>88573748Seeing her immediately start pushing shit like this makes me resent her even more
>>88573694It doesn't look like she's gonna come back at all, most of her accounts in Hololive have been wiped like Stream and Discord. The most likely meaning being her being an affiliate is that she's still splitting a profit off Cover continuing to use the Ame IP
>>88564668>Ame name and model are perfect, model can never be a reason for leavinganon most holo models are rigged like complete dogshitFuwamoco's mouths are absolutely static and they're generally extremely stiff, with horrible face tracking. The 3D models are generally higher quality and definitely worthy of a big company, but the 2D ones are just fucking awful. Look at this shit. It's better than Niji rigs, but not by much. The mouths basically go up and down, or expand and contract and nothing else.
>>88573748>I eventually decided to focus solely on vtuber activities by 2020.>I've since produced short animations, live events, and even helped bring iconic characters in the vtuber world to life!Yes, Dooby, you. It was 100% you and only you. My god, she might be the mightiest vtuber known to humanity.
>>88573671she’s still the same person she’s always been just with less of a filterSorry your corpo worship blinds you
>>88574070Her summarizing the past 4 years of Hololive with that, is honestly just so disgusting. I know she obviously can't outright say it, but god it looks so bad
>>88574013I never cared about moth movements all that much after all if you watch dubbed anime they will never match anyway actually I don't think they typically match Japanese dialogue either especially on cheaper end so it's not a big issue for weebs and indies are often too bouncy like a jello.
>>88573671This.With restrictions, you’re forced to get more creative with new ideas. When there’s too much "talent freedom," it’s easy to fall into the trap of getting lazy, especially without anyone pushing you. She already said that she's not sticking to schedules anymore. Going solo as an indie requires real passion, where streaming to you has to feel as natural as breathing. If Dooby gets lazy, she risks losing a lot of money and might end up relying on frequent subathons and donation streams.
>>88574070>>88574123Literally what is wrong with that statement?
>>88574101And as we've seen before, the filter that Hololive has is for the best. Giving someone complete freedom isin't necessarily a good thing
>>88573871if you actually watched her you’d know she mentioned wanting to do this while still in holo>>88574123>disgustingHow?
She was definitely the more technically skilled than twitchers of 2020 and other myth.No one will be able to deny that.
>>88574156Yeah she's gonna be in for a rude awakening if she thinks she can stick to not having a schedule or anything. Even the biggest streamers that have 20k+ ccv have some consistent schedule and grind streaming for hours every week
>>88574159Nothing, if you just read it as is. But the phrasing makes her look bigger than she actually is.
>>88574217And the fact that she immediately starts pushing for this shit now that she's out, shows that she likely wanted to do similar stuff while in Holo but was understandably shut down. So she literally only left for retarded reasons like this
>>88574255Forsen.
>>88574159How she boils down her time in Hololive to "yeah I dabbled in vtuber stuff from 2020 until now"
>>88560278anon do you actually think Amelia joined at the same time as Gen 2?
>>88574323Forsen streams literally every day for 6+ hours
>>88574162she’s just slightly raunchier and edgier, i it’s not like she’s ranting about politics or something.>>88574291K
>>88574278Ok thanks for answer me that nothing she said was wrong, enjoy your seethe thread ape.
>>88574480t. cuck
>>88574370This is what baffles me, even before EN was a thing Hololive was openly clear about it being a idol agency. I think it just shows that even these girls that got into Holo EN were never real fans but just clip watchers that saw funny moments of Hololive and thought that's what it was all about. Nothing else makes sense for why some of these women applied, when it has been as clear as possible what joining the company means
>>88574123You may not know this, but basically "the RULEs" for corpoVtubers are not weird, but extremely common. Even Disneyland has adopted them.
>>88574514and he's got nothing left but insults from his mudhut oof
>>88574455Well see the problem is that she has shown nothing for now being "unshackled." She swears more, sticks to 3D streaming, has her own Discord server, and can stream whatever game she wants. That's it, there's no real innovation or anything showing that she was being held back in any meaningful way
>>88574370Read the picture again. Slowly.
>>88574639It's arguing that Hololive started to change into an idol agency around JP gen 2, yeah. Which is why its retarded that these EN girls have been bitching about doing idol reps
>>88574673The picture isn't "arguing" anything and Mio literally says that even the staff didn't think they were running an idol agency.Also,>The direction changed the most when S.S.S. was announced
>>88574588honestly, she is fine the way she is now, her teammates are happy she is back streaming and all is good, it's just that holo/corpo-anti used her and pitted her against Hololive or corpo in general, they do this with kson and sakuna too. and now the honest teammates have to go on her defense for antis doing.
>>88574070>>88574123is she talking about hololive? She was a Vtuber before joining (after years of camstreaming) and made Silvervale realize what she's doing by using her shitty as 3D abomination of a model at that time was called "Vtubing" perhaps that's what she meant? Her whole consulting shit and weird businesswoman PR spins feel weirdly out of character, unironically more "corporate" than anything she done as Ame. Honestly I don't think what she's offering is even professional enough to charge money for, it's one thing when you're just helping friends (mostly for free or a small fee) the other if you want to do 3D consulting as a serious job the tolerance for tummy horts and scuff is totally different not to mention with some of the things offered she was never more qualified than any other random chuuba her character is just Ame with a twist she abandoned model that was her creation completely to be doobywhatever. Funny that low IQ dramamonkeys grasp at bullshit non-issues to bait rather than actual questionable shit that might backfire with a twitlonger some day if people feel scammed.
>>88574588she's been streaming for like a week retard
>>88556845Yes but now she don't have to do any homework or practice dancing or share her earnings or anything. Just stream and watch the shekels come in.
>>88574588discord is a BIG thing for groomers
>>88575028>is she talking about hololive?>decided to focus on vtuber activities by 2020 (when she joined hololive)>I've since>since
>>88575028she wants hololive money without putting in hololive effort, even if she has to scam people
>>88556845>INNOVATION IS ENABLING LAZINESS NOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOW COULD THIS BEDid you never read anything on the entirety of human history
>>88574278>Nothing, if you just read it as isYes if you just read the words as printed and don't create a weird psychotic narrative in your own head it seems fine.
She's the Steve Jobs or Elon Musk of vtubing
>>88575141>yes, i don't know what context is>i also constantly miss social cuesIlliterate, autistic or retarded?
>>88575192It's ad copy trying to recruit clients, of course she's going to hype herself up. It really doesn't seem egregious or out of the ordinary to me.
>>88575192Stop being a woman. Not everything has a hidden meaning.
>>88574518Holo EN was not planned as idol from the start they wanted to do their own more twitch-like thing at least that was Omega's idea even before Council they've said "Hololive JP is idol while Holo EN is all about passion (whatever that means)" they thought foreign audience will not accept idol stuff or Japanese cultural things, remember how much they've pushed that holo EN is different because they don't have senpai - kouhai relation?
Why not just admit she was too lazy to actually be held to any deadlines or standards? Now she can do whatever she wants and finish her ideas whenever she wants. This entire "wow she was being held back creatively" is silly when you see what the newer EN members have been doing despite being under the thumb of the evil, oppressive corpo.
>>88556845Are you telling me a woman who is set for life is just doing this for fun and not to revolutionize the industry of vtubing as we know it? madness... MADNESS I SAY!
So did she graduate from holo or not
>>88575441Unless she lied about her leech family I somehow don't think she's set for life
>>88575085Myth debuted near the end of 2020
>>88575499No.
>>88575171that would put her far below kson as Jesus
>>88575518And? She worded it to make it sound like she switched to full vtubing from the start of 2020.
>>88575506Didn't she just say something about havig a sibling she never mentioned as Ame?
>>88575621No. She’s talked about her family all the time as Ame.
>>88575621Her "brother" who constantly uses her "studio"? She talked about him before
>>88575557Then what's up with making a big deal about no longer being able to stream but then stream as indie no problem, is vtubing just a grifter business after all
>>88575644>>88575678I wouldn't kow, just a schizo I heard around then. I don't want to watch her, I want to preserve my memory of my beautiful, wonderful dorky detective wife.
>>88575433Anon she can't admit to laziness while parading her CV with (almost) Emmy awards and selling Vtuber consulting for all kinds of shit "btw I was to fucked up with my ADHD to focus on one project atm guys it was actually making me depressed I'm utterly incapable of normal work and keeping schedules buy my consulting services btw... even if I don't really care that much about money either if you pay me I will totally concentrate my whole undivided attention on whatever is your issue pinkie promise Foleytubers never lie!"
>>88575621All of her family members she mentioned how also been mentioned as Ame
>>88573174>Sexual favors to investorsYes, I'm investors, sorry for causing her to graduate, but in my defense, her latin pussy was really tight
>>88574518>Hololive was openly clear about it being a idol agencyHololive has never, to this day, been openly clear about it being an idol agency. Likely because it's fucking not. Feel free to prove me wrong with some official info, statements, etc.
>>88556845>still the runt of her gen by farGRIMcreativity clearly goes unappreciated in the black company
>>88576302>Hololive has never, to this day, been openly clear about it being an idol agency. Likely because it's fucking not. Feel free to prove me wrong with some official info, statements, etc.HOLY FUCKING NEWFAG
>>88577067Holy EOP. He didn't say "idol", that's a mistranslation. Next?
>>88575499New job.
>>88577245What's the job? To serve as a grim reminder to the rest of holos?
>>88577450A SAD reminder
>>88577245>>88577450>>88577589back to /xhlgg/ you go
>>88576302Retard-chama, I mean you can see those retard that post Subaru or Mio clip that they were surprised when they got told that they are idol now which means it was official from the company you fucking moron but it can't be used as an excuse for EN member to claim that they weren't know that they were supposed to do idol things because the company already change before they were joining not after they already joined, to be more specific on when Hololive goes idol route as an agency is explained by Yagoo himself on their 5th anniversary stream
>>88560552Turns out people don't like grifters who betray their corps and throw everyone under the bus with fabricated lies.Doki found that out the hard way and now so is "Dooby".
>>88578135When did she fabricate any lies? Who did she throw under the bus? Betrayed her corp? What the fuck are you playing shadowrun or something?
>>88578425>didn't watch her debutopinion discarded
>>88557160Graduation Combo inchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CWH5LuYK_M
Why are people under impression that all vtuber is diamond in the rough wanting to shine in the biggest stage? Like some kind of anime protagonist journey?A lot of them just like the rest of us. They want to make living in the easiest way possible.It's not hard to understand.
>>88571019Pretty much this, its a marked difference between ex-Holos and ex-Nijis. Even people who have some sort of issue or dislike with a Holo do not go out of their way to brand them as traitors and pile slurs on them, the same way it happens with Nijisanji's talents. And that is solid indicator of just how toxic their community is.
