thanks for your money nijisisters :D
>>88638457He can only announce the buyback after releasing Q2 report on December, so currently the holders are looking forward to the Q2 report before anything else, and if the company fails the 10b yen goal, then they are fucked no matter how many billion yens they throw at the holders, especially when Cover can prove that 20b yen goal is a possibilityIf he wants the stock price to jump like Cover, he better hopes that the Q2 is successful enough to do a positive revision like Cover did
>>88638457how did their stock keep dropping after stock divident and buyback?
>>88638457>please keep supporting me, wait i mean your oshi kek
>>88639153Simple answer, no growth no reason to buyBuybacks are just temporary solutions to calm down investors by helping them cover the losses. The only good thing from doing it is telling investors that they do care about them and stall more timeAt the end of the day, end result and whether your company make huge profit or not matters. The buybacks are pointless if your company is in decline in terms of profitI know anons have been talking about quarters and "this is it". But I truly believe Q2 2025 in December will definitely be the one that decide whether should pump Anycolor up or dump Anycolor down, especially when Cover stock is right behind them. Cover can prove they can earn twice the amount Riku promised, if Riku fails to meet the quota, even a single billion short, the traders will give up and the entire company will go downhill from there
i sweat this dude is stock obsessed mf.and its baffled me nijisister still supporting this kind behavior
>>88639119how many graphs can he stack on top of each other to hide each branch's shortcomings?
>>88639153Riku has no real future plan, the plan he keeps telling investors is that they're going to keep focusing on Japan and spamming new debuts through VTA. Cover just showed they can pull money out of their ass with their TCG and now investors are going to demand answers as to why Anycolor can't do the same.
>>88642022Q3 2024 NijiEN and NijiJP graph were splitQ4 2024 They are merged together but still shows the details of 4 types of incomeQ1 2025 basically outright merged everything and focus on total income but still let the NijiEN total income number existSo I'm willing to bet that Q2 2025 will hide NijiEN number entirely and use a mono-coloured graph if they are that desperate
wtf cover hit 2k
>>88638457Whatever, still not selling. If they keep up with the buybacks then eventually I'll own the whole company and then I'll make myself CEO and sexual harass the male talents.
>>88642518What happened the last few days?
>>88639153Because you can't change a trajectory with one-off injections?
>>88642518it's already at 2100
Fun fact: There is a minimum amount of stock which must be publicly available in order for a company to be traded on the Tokyo Stock Exchange, and Anycolor is already close to that limit. Their current margin is slightly more than the amount of shares they bought back in June, so they can do a buyback that big or slightly bigger in December, but would not be able to do another buyback next June. Alternatively, they can do a buyback of slightly more than half the number of shares of the June buyback this December, and then do one more buyback of that same amount next June. But that would require some long-term thinking, and wouldn't boost their stock on the day after the buyback announcement by as much as a max size buyback would.Incidentally, this is a three day weekend on the TSE due to a holiday on Monday (and also the last long weekend before the New Year break). So after today's trading ends, trading will resume on Tuesday at 0900 JST.Also, in the US, daylight savings ends on Sunday. So adjusting for time zones, the TSE will reopen on Monday at 1900 EST / 1600 PST (that's 7pm and 4pm, for those who cannot into 24 hour time)
>>88643064the usual
>>88638457>After everything, it's now less than 100 Yen away from Hololive's stock valueHow can they recover from this?
>>88643785>less than 100 Yen away from Hololive's stock valueI can't believe we were joking about this a few days ago and it actually became true
>>88643785Cover blew up overnight, they were stuck at 1500 yen for months. Funny enough, all of jp stocks are down today, minus cover and anycolor.
>>88643592They can just do a stock split before the buyback.
>>88638457Doobie invented buybacks!
>>88643997Nah Anycolor is struggling as fuck and was in the red multiple times. They would actually drop to below 2150 like the rest of JP stocks if not for Cover being such a bullish stock right now
>>88639153you just reminded me of that dividendfag kek. eve funnier in hindsight.
>>88644439They already did a stock split. Can they do another?Also, I can't imagine that doing a (second?) split and a third buyback at the same time would trigger a great deal of investor confidence.
>>88644995>Can they do another?Yes. >I can't imagine that doing a (second?) split and a third buyback at the same time would trigger a great deal of investor confidence.Why not?
>>88643592what holiday on monday?im pretty sure bunka holiday is on sunday
>>88645474Culture Day where people celebrate Japanese culture apparently
>>88645589yes. bunka holiday is culture day which is fall on 3rd november
>>88645474On Sunday, but observed on Monday, as is routine for holidays which fall on Sundays.There is another market holiday later this year after this weekend but before the New Year break. It falls on a Saturday this year, but is NOT observed on either the Friday before or the Monday after, despite the TSE being closed regardless of the holiday. I do not know why the TSE observes Sunday holidays but not Saturday holidays.
>>88639153>how did their stock keep dropping after stock divident and buyback?It doesn't matter how much money a company pumps into itself, it's going to lose investors if it can't turn an actual profit with that money.
>>88643064>What happened the last few days?Dodgers won and Cover had their blue girls front and center for the marketing for that world series match.
>>88645584IT'S COMING
Apparently Cover already passed Anycolor at market capitalization
>>88646933what do these particular numbers mean
>>88647062market cap = how much investment the company has.Basically the company's "net worth" if you wanna think of it that way
damn, a guy is having a meltdown on Anycolor's yahoo board kek
>>88647417It was the same guy that spammed in Cover's thread during the JFTC debacle and "predicted" that Cover would drop below 1300. Now everyone is clowning on him and every comments that brought up Cover JFTC are mass downvoted
>>88647179I see, so they're almost evenly matched now?
>>88647551Well it's not that simple since I believe Anycolor put 30% of their company on the market while Cover only put 15%. But watching the numbers pass each other is a huge meme moment
>>88647596I mean 15% of cover being as valuable as 30% of anycolor speaks volumes
>>88643064Cover's IR report leaked, and apparently the card game is selling phenomenally well to the point where they're raising their estimated revenue again.
>>88645584C'mon, it'll be SO FUCKING FUNNYIt's the last cope the sisters have... Realistically it'll probably cool off over the weekend until the IR report actually releases and Niji will squeak away again like last time.
>>88647752bets on a nijisanji card game coming out soon?
>>88647752its not leaked anon. its an official report.but really holo ocg is only selling for 10 days and its already profitted almost 2B yen. q3 financial report is going to be ridiciously high with ocg 3 months sales and marine, miko, and sui sololive
>>88648071>and marine, miko, and sui sololivepardon my retardation but don't they lose money on sololives
>>88648049zero. did you really expect sisters playing ocg?
>>88648049If Anycolor is smart, they would have done that last year with pokemon number of livers. The potential was endless, but alas Anycolor still bet their money on Rofmao and Valz live shows
>>88648131we are not talking about kurosanji here whose on red after niji expo
>>88648279nah. the difference is niji card are only collection for sisters.its difference for holo who paying it and tapped ocg community.
>>88648131If they only filled up half of venue then yeah it's a lossBut Miko and Suisei sololives are proven to be sold out in less than a week. And I wouldn't be surprised if Marine 2 day concert will be fully booked as well, including the ridiculously high VIP seats
>>88648704I see, I genuinely don't know how it works and I thought sololives were more of a "hopefully we make up the money we spent on it" rather than a profit thing
>>88647730Jesus christ
>>88638457AIIIIEEEEE WHERE ARE THE BOTS!!?
>>88648854see the "event" revenue in case you want to know how much profit they get for sololive
>>88648049Nintendo gonna sue them for using it likeness to card game, just like they can't play palworld or that tcg simulator.
>>88650977Wait are they fr? Niji cannot play the TCG card game? What kind of retarded move is that???
>>88651103yeah. niji already missed playing 2 fotm game. the funny thing is nintendo still collabing with holo despite playing both of them kek
>>88651244Man, even companies like Nintendo hate Anycolor. You'd think Riku would take the hint.
>>88650977What? Nijisanji had a sponsored video about the Pokemon tcg game. What are you talking about?
>>88652365clearly they didn't get perms and that's why nintendo favors hololive now
>>88651103Yes they can? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En4CqT0yU5I
>>88652365that anon didn't talk about pokemon tcg
>>88652557I meant the tcg card game shop sim that everyone except Niji played, not some obvious paid promo from Nintendo
Niji investors: why did the company I have stock in get rid of their US warehouse of merch?
>>88638457What happens when Cover surpasses them in stock price? Nijisanji becomes the underdog and Cover is now the public enemy #1?
>>88652684they sold it to buy a bigger one obviously
>>88652365>>88652557>nijisisters confused because their oshi are not allowed to play fotm game kekhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3070070/TCG_Card_Shop_Simulator/
>>88652740No, you’ll just see untold amounts of nijiseethe. Apocalyptic levels of it, actually.
>>88652740I'm gonna unleash the beast in the catalog.
>>88641328I bet he’s not even thinking about his employees. Which is sadly common in the business world…
>>88652740That would mean Cover will become a more valuable company than AnycolorRemember those old times when sisters used the cope of "Anycolor at least still has higher price than Cover"? Well that cope will be challenged next week assuming there aren't any fuckups from Cover and there aren't any cheat boost from Anycolor, and at that point sisters cannot find any reason to prove that Anycolor has has advantage over Cover in stock market
>>88648704Wait, there's THREE sololives coming up? Damn, I haven't paid attention to holo lately but that's fantastic.
>>88652946next they're gonna brag about having more stock buybacks
>>88652946niji has more organs than holo
Niji is going to launch a tabletop minis game like 40k in response to cover launching a card game.
>>88653145It'll be called "sexpest island escape"
>>88653145It’ll be a survival game where the organs cannibalize each other to survive.
>>88645584Release a fucking gacha already, please.
>>88647596I don't really understand this distinction. eg even if Yagoo's 40% was never offered out during the public float surely he now has the option to sell on the market should he wish and the market cap should account for that holding.
>>88653559no gacha is a cancer. gacha money will go to investor and not the girl, how do you think the money will spilt? how do they know which girl make how many pull? they will just get pay for their voice pack and done. so stfu, yagoo did not realese gacha game is the proof he care about the girl more.
>>88639965This
>>88638457Why doesn't he just liquidate the company and sell it to the highest bidder? Nijisanji is done. They aren't even big in in Japan anymore. How much money this man have? He keeps burning his own money seeing no profit returns in his investments. Is he treating Nijisanji like a real life gacha game?
>>88639153It's just market mechanics. When you buy stock back, you bid up the price. When it ends, the price goes back down. Imagine an auction where Mr Moneybags comes in and bids everything up. When he leaves, things go back to normal.In reality, things are slightly different, because the way it works is that traders know that Moneybags is coming in, so they bid up the stock first, trying to buy it at cheaper prices to sell to him, so the rise happens after the announcement, rather than during the actual buyback. This pretty much ensures that Moneybags is paying inflated prices. But the simplified version is the general gist of it.
>>88658123>When it ends, the price goes back downno it doesn't, because of your buyback the supply of stocks has diminished. You just elevated the price to a new shelf
>>88659542No, if anything it should be worth less than it otherwise would have, because the company has overpaid for the stock, so the "correct" valuation of the company per share drops. This is true in most cases, but it's different if the stock is severely undervalued, so that the company buys it cheap despite bidding it up. This is rare.
>>88659542yeah the new shelf which you knock down afterwards and pray nobody saw
>>88648854Nah it requires a big investment of up-front cost but the payoff is equally sizeable.
>>88647596>>88647730That's not true. First of all, Cover actually has more public float than Niji: 50% vs 40%. But more importantly, insider shares still count toward market cap.>>88658123>>88659542>>88659886Buybacks aren't just about supply and demand, buybacks increase equity per share.
>>88655542Ok? The shareholders deserve their cut too.
>hololive>investors receive 2%>niji>talents receive 2%
>>88660624>Buybacks aren't just about supply and demand, buybacks increase equity per share.They usually decrease equity per share, which is my point. Even when price per share is below book value per share, book value is usually badly impaired but not yet recognized by the firm. It is very rare that buybacks improve shareholder value.
>>88639153Let's not forget the 27 billion yen worth of stock they deleted to try and force the price to climb.
>>88661394>They usually decrease equity per share, which is my point.Your point is wrong and retarded.
>>88661478Those were treasury shares.
>>88661521It's obvious if you work from first principles. I'd advise you to stay away from the financial markets. The professionals will eat you alive if you try to gamble with that sort of terrible logic. They already make huge profits whenever the stable geniuses who run large firms decide to buy their shares back. Even casual observers know that it's usually a terrible idea except in very rare circumstances, or in very limited quantities.
>>88661691How does a retard like you even breathe? I'm not gonna comment on when a company should do buybacks, because I have no idea. But at least I understand what a buyback is.
>>88662052Obviously you do not, if you think that you can eat your cake and have it still. In what world does a buyback increase equity per share? (Rare exceptions aside)
>>88638457The filth that is nijisanji viewers, deserve to be mocked for being exploited to this degree.
>>88657915>Is he treating Nijisanji like a real life gacha game?Yes. And the only SSR pull he ever had was Kuzuha. He's still to this day hoping to pull another, not realizing that it's futile.
Why are there so many stocks threads being spammed lately?
>>88665887Probably because Cover is about to surpass AC as the biggest vtubing company by market cap for the first time. This seemed obvious to a lot of vtuber fans, but apparently not to JP investors.