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==REMINDER TO ALL MENHERA==
>M: Please don't get merch because you feel pressured or anything like that. DON'T do anything that you don't want to. We really mean it, okay?
>F: So you know, maybe you're like, "Oh, well, you know, maybe if I make a clip maybe more people will discover FUWAMOCO from there!" - it's true, but maybe you REALLY don't like video editing... Maybe don't that.
>M: However you want to, okay?
>F: You know, oshikatsu's supposed to be fun! You know, just tweeting, being loud -
>M: Being HERE with us!
>F: Yeah!
>M: That's all - that's MORE that we can ask for!
>F: Yeah, being like, "Ah! My best friend, you know, I REALLY like these vtubers called FUWAMOCO!". You know, those kinds of things, you know...
>M: So, please, don't feel like, "Oh, THIS Ruffian is doing all this and I'M not doing ANYTHING"...
>F: No. You know, oshikatsu is fun for everybody and ANYBODY!
>M: You should never feel like that, okay? So PLEASE don't compare yourselves to somebody else, okay?
>F: We just want you to have fun. You shouldn't feel pressure.
>M: We don't want you to disappear because of something, you know...
>F: Yeah, so, you know... if your smile's in trouble...
>*Both shake their heads*
>M: Just don't worry, we just want you to be here with us.
>F: Yeah, we wanna protect your smile and have fun together, Ruffians!
>M: You got it? It's not work! It should be FUN! We understand that you compare yourselves to others and stuff like that... SO THAT'S WHY WE SAY "DON'T"! We get it, you know? Because we felt it too before, okay? *reads chat message* You wish you could superchat more? IT'S OKAY! DON'T WORRY! We want you to have fun.
>F: And you know, it's the little things that count, too, you know. So, just sending a tweet like, "BAU BAU!" - that helps, you know?
>M: Yeah! Do what you can!
>F: "I'm on break right now, you know! I had a real delicious sandwich! FUWAMOCO, I had a delicious sandwich!" ... You know, it makes us happy to know that you're thinking about us cause sometimes, you know, we get a little bit lonely. Like, "are the Ruffians thinking about us...?"
>M: Please don't worry, okay? *reads chat message* You can't write well? It's OKAY! Don't worry about it!
>F: But it makes us really happy to know you're thinking about ways you can help us, Ruffians...
>M: We don't want you to get sad and be like, "I can't enjoy FUWAMOCO anymore because I compare myself to other Ruffians", okay?

uhoh favorites starting to feel scared that their empire is crumbling. Stop trying to groom hololive members you losers.

Why does everything they say sound so fake now?

>>88671168
Is it really grooming though? It just seems like desperation for female attention more than anything else.

I felt nothing from that final episode. How could they tell us they plan on getting more sleep and yet at the same time insist that they'll be working nonstop? They are liars. They won't be getting any rest at all. They cancelled FWMC Morning for no good reason. It'll instead be replaced by Japanese streams which'll replace FWMC Morning's timeslot, mark my words.

>>88671168
Who is scared? Its business as usual.

>>88671310
Whatever you call it, it's a good day when one of these fags is knocked down a peg. And pissnix and tekzi are two of the worst so it's like Christmas

nothing ever happens

>>88671368
I won't disagree with you on that one

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>congratulate them for 1 million views on born to be baudol
>no likespree
>congratulate them for their 1st 3d guest appearance
>no likespree
>stay up late night for them
>no likespree
>last fwmc morning of 2025
>no likespree

>>88671462
Wait, you didn't get a like this morning? They liked my posts as well as a couple of others too. I thought they went on a spree.

>>88671339
>It'll instead be replaced by Japanese streams which'll replace FWMC Morning's timeslot, mark my words.
I think this might be their ultimate goal honestly, but they will try and bau bau it off as something else as usual.

>>88671339
If that were to happen, I'd go full on schizo anti. I'd be their worst yet. They'd have to block me, but even then I wouldn't stop harassing them.

>>88671339
Its getting more and more obvious they wish they were JP and not EN.

If FUWAMOCO play favorites, then FUWAMOCO are the problem and getting their favorites banned would be no satisfaction to me. The fact that they chose favorites in the first place, that's what would really hurt, and nothing could ever undo that hurtfulness. Good thing they don't play favorites and all perceptions of favoritism are oversensitive delusions spawned from the brainworms of emotionally damaged ruffians

>Kekzi banned
Deserved for photo shopping that tweet and getting Ruffians mad at Fuwawa.

>>88671462
Nothing new for me. My thoughts on everything never get a like and I post something almost daily. Some days multiple times.

>>88671632
He hasn't been banned.

>>88671617
You're going to run out of cope at some point, accepting it right now would make it hurt less. The evidence is overwhelming.

Remember it’s okay to let the demon take over :)

>>88671632
Of all the cliquefags that have been labelled the "favorite" over time (ie. pretty much all of them) t***zi is the first that is a genuinely shitty person, like not just an attentionwhore, but truly a person who actively worsens the experience of other ruffians day in and day out.

>>88671339
No FWMC Morning means more garbage streams.

JP shitposting aside it would be good if they had EN streams at the JST prime time slot. 8PM is a lot more reasonable than midnight and Raora has seen good results with the slot.

>>88671684
Then why are you still here? You've proven to yourself FUWAMOCO are bad people, and bad people can never be salvaged. So why not leave? It's because you know you're just indulging in your most painful intrusive thoughts, and on some level, you know they're good people

>>88671804
Chained Together did just fine at that time, and I'd be very happy if I went to bed one bight and saw a stream the next day when I looked at twitter or went to their channel that was in English overnight. It just means more to watch for me.

>>88671804
Yeah, it's about time FUWAMOCO cater to us Eurochads.

>>88671804
If they stream regularly in JP slot they'll overlap with my JP oshi though, and she takes priority since it's her turf

>>88671127
That’s what you get, racist anti piece of shit.

>>88671310
that's 100% what it is. I can attest to this myself as I used to get super jealous of others getting more attention than me. However this started to change when I started dressing better, going to the gym, and matching with girls on dating sites. I still love FUWAMOCO, but I'm not a jealous ruffian anymore and I feel confident in who I am as a person and a fan.

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i do wonder how the next week gonna looks like considering they can't even pick earlier time for this

fuwawa's stinky feet... god, please let me smell them

>>88671875
Frog Detective was good too

>>88671777
Kek now that's some cope

anything's particularly interesting this steam sale?
ghostrick?

>>88672221
No one lives under the lighthouse if you liked the Paratopic stream

>>88672323
2spoopy4me

>>88670502
This was posted by Fuwawa and I love her

donkey kong and minecraft
the best fwmc game series

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One of these days FWMC might deign themselves to spare a like for me again, just one.

>>88672700
She does like making me go crazy that fluffy gorjus women

If FUWAMOCO got off Twitter except for stream announcements how much time would that free up for them?

>>88673004
An undetermined amount of hours.
I'd reckon at least 4 hours minimum.

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I'll probably become a Pebble, Biboo seems to be getting more and more affectionate with her fans, and I have the impression that even if she moves to Japan and pursues the Idol route, she will still prioritize the Pebbles. Fuwawa and Mococo, although they like us a lot, do not see us as a priority, as their focus is on fame as Idols, and they are very dedicated in this aspect, to the point of sacrificing their close connection with us.

>>88673004
Easily 3 hours a day and I would be all for it
Only attention whores would cry

SHUT THE FUCK UP.

>>88673396
It's cute to see how much more parasocial she's gotten with the Pebbles. She could've ended her stream at the same time everyone else did, but she dedicated like, what, 30 minutes or so to being cute with her fans?

>>88673396
Yeah Biboo is a great alternative, I enjoy watching her POV in collabs more and more.

>responding to holo vs holo

>Still giving a fuck what others say and do

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>>88673396
Godspeed, I want to fuck her cunny too, she's been really sexy and alluring lately

Maybe I'll get a like from them after Donkey Kong...

>>88673764
Is your account fucked like mine is?
All I get is ruffian likes on replies, never anything when I use the hashtags.

>no likespree
>but still spending time egosa on twitter and liking randos (who then show up in my tl)
grrrr

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>>88673828
Yeah, it's a very rare shadowban where everyone can see you and give you likes except for FUWAMOCO

>>88673396
you can't have connection to someone who's always acting, it was fine for the first year but repeating the same three catchphrases has run its course

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11.1.24 episode 140. Kanata was playing that baseball game and Miko was playing that Detroit game and most Japs were focused on those.

>Hello hello bau bau~
>The morning of the three-day weekend has arrived
>Beautiful fluffy
>It seems like this director is too lenient on Mogochan.
>This year's HOLOCTOBER is over
>Mogochan, you caught it well
>The next Fuwamoko Morning will be on March 10th next year.
>BAUBAU!
>Morning has passed and morning never comes for months


>March 10th
129 more days

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>>88673893
Oh.

>>88673999
>129 more days
Wake me up when DST ends

>>88673999
>Mogochan, you caught it well
This one was for the baseball thing though, right?

I feel like their next outfits will be school uniforms.

>>88674250
First is gonna be the casual outfits for all of Advent

>>88674250
>>88674296
Just give them glasses
Please

>>88674336
glasses are shit

>>88674359
Do your Fashion Dreamer reps

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>>88674359
But what about how cute Fuwawa would be with glasses though

>>88674359
3D glasses are shit, 2D glasses can be good occasionally.

>>88673396
I've become a shigga for similar reasons. I love FWMC and wish them all the success in the world. They work hard, put in the hours, and are very driven, but I'm no longer connecting to them and their content as a fan like I did before.

AWAKE

>>88674572
They better start getting some motherfucking sleep on Monday

Devilish angel or angelic devil?

>>88673956
More like you can't have a connection with people you don't share anything with. If you liked retro games and VN, showa-era Japanese music, 00s' era anime and niconico douga, Japanese culture and language,... then you wouldn't have that problem.
But we've got a lot of dumbfucks who watched them for five minutes before sending an akasupa to call them their "kamioshi". People who are more interested in the attention they get from FUWAMOCO than by their actual personality and tastes. That's how we got the retarded and annoying JP schizos.

Clip retweet soon!

>>88673396
Fuwawa and Moco-chan are cute, but they really don't share much or talk about themselves with any depth. People will scream about kayfabe, but if you trupy feel inhuman, your connection will weaken with a majority of people.
>We like donut!
>We're into VN but will barely talk about it!
>We like anime but barely watch it!
>We enjoy JP TV but will talk about it for a max of 10 minutes once every other week max.
They are far too consumed with their work, most of which can't be talked about, to not be boring most of the time.

>>88674336
Fuck off Fubuki glasses suck and aren't sexy.
Any girl with glasses would be hotter without them. Fuck your "nerdy librarian INT cleric" archetype you fox tailed BITCH

>>88674747
can't do the morning show... bau bau...

>>88674768
They've talked about 00's anime for more than 2 minutes a total of 3 times, and I loved it every time. They barely talk about anything they like with any depth to US.

>>88674768
>If you liked retro games and VN, showa-era Japanese music, 00s' era anime and niconico douga, Japanese culture and language
Then you would have been suffering for most of their streams since they moved and thus wouldn't feel as connected anymore.
Now if you like FOTM games and shitty horror games, and massive collabs where they don't play well, you'd feel more connected than ever.

What DO you want them to talk about? I don't get it, I feel like nowadays they talk about themselves about as much as most holoENs

>>88673396
>all these responses
are we being raided, or are ruffians really getting sick of FWMC...?

>>88674895
The alternative is acting like generic Just Chatting streamers on Twitch like the rest of hololive do, and I quite appreciate how well they maintain character compared to their peers. It's what has made them so successful.

>>88675079
I don't think there's really anything wrong with watching another girl on the side, if it helps make ruffians less obnoxious then by all means go see what else is out there, especially if it satisfies an itch or niche that FWMC would never cater to

>>88675079
I mean I can't speak for anyone else but I have grown more distant and I just don't really enjoy a lot of their content anymore.
The stuff I do enjoy is what keeps me coming back to them on and off.
I just wish things didn't change so much.

>>88675079
I’ve grown indifferent towards them these days. I skip streams often now, whereas before I’d make time for them. The magic is almost gone for me.

>>88675048
Nah no way. Compare them to Nerissa, for example. They keep their personas up way better than the rest.

>>88674895
I don't think they can discuss that stuff in depth with their current audience anyway. The average HoloEN fan thinks Code Geass is a "deep cut", and there's a bunch of ruffians who would be into this but they wouldn't want to stream for like 10 people. Even the JP audience is bewildered when they talk about otaku stuff. Their actual taste is not really in line with Hololive, but more with indies like Patra.
Also they think they're shit at zatsu for some dumb reason. Despite they're superchats reading streams being so great.

>>88675079
Can't be a raid when it's already an anti thread.

I feel sorry for all of the new fans that never got to experience FWMC golden age edition. Those user submitted streams, nonstop content coming out through at every corner. I think that is why the first year of a new talent is always the best time.

>>88675270
Why would I compare them to the example of going way too far? Nerissa is Kiara tier with that, she doesn't give a shit.
I actively DON'T want constant 4th wall breaking like what you get from Kiara/Nerissa, thank you.

>>88675109
nobody would complain if they started to talk more naturally

>>88675079
What these guys >>88675244
>>88675267 said. I don’t know, I’ve just grown tired of them overworking themselves, always talking about how tired they are, never changing, and basically telling people who care about their wellbeing “we’re gonna do what we have to do” in the form of a mengen post. I’m tired of all the soulless shilling. I’m tired of their “get in and get out” approach to streams. I’m tired of Japanese streams. I’m tired of the same, tired out rhetoric from them (“you know… wuffians… we’re FUWAMOCO, we’re fluffy and fuzzy…” and all that). Even their bau bauing has become annoying to me.

>>88675368
Then why are you here? If this is the anti thread do you mind pointing out the good thread?

>>88675394
>come into the FUWAMOCO thread to beg for FUWAMOCO to stop acting like FUWAMOCO
100% real ruffian here, nothing suspect about this.

>>88675312
That's the thing, if people like you they'll listen to you yap about anything. If they wanted to go on a rant about 00's anime like they did a few times in the past, I'd be pumped. It's been a long time so some of it is hazy, but that goes for them too. How mich would they actually remember about Saikano or Maburaho?

What should I order for lunch today?

>>88675385
Nor do I, but it's disingenuous to say FWMC talk about themselves as much as anyone does these days because they absolutely do not.

>>88675492
>the good thread
Anon...

>>88675488
Minus the JP streams (I really like their JP collabs with Koyo, Patra, etc.) I kinda felt that way too before. What helped me was get myself to not watch every single stream. If I didn't care about another 5+ hours of SC reading of the same repetitive stuff from streams that happened weeks ago, I just ended up skipping it and watching someone else instead.

It led to me also being more interested in their streams that I do care about again. Just skipping a stream here or there that really didn't do it for me worked out well for me, plus I now watch a few others on the side (but FWMC will always be my #1).
What works for you might wary but give it a try.

>>88675394
I would. I like that they filter normalfaggots

>>88675597
You just brought out the extreme examples. They talk about themselves as much as many others do like Mumei or Fauna or Cecilia or Gigi or Ina. None of them overshare to an extreme amount at all.

>>88675079
It's a combination of both. There will always be trolls trying to stir stuff up but FUWAMOCO's content has changed drastically since the move and not for the better. At the very least, it is different from the content which originally attracted Ruffians during their first few months when they debuted.

>>88675611
So why constantly say this is the anti thread when there's no good thread?

They spent 10 minutes saying names of old anime from the 00's and having a few people (me included) mentioning more and getting them pumped up, but instead of just picking one or two they really liked to just go wild on and let us know everyhting about why they liked it, they stopped because there were too many confused people in chat. If they just stopped giving a fuck (re: stopped caring about numbers/normalfags), it'd be fine.

>>88675960
Are FWMC the most /#/ of all vtubers?

>>88675079
People are just in a mood because FWMC Morning is on hiatus and the morning show was unironically one of the few places where they really talked about themselves and what they've been up to day to day

Soon the weekly fotm one-off streams will stop or drastically decrease and we'll get them playing more actual kino games as series and finishing them

Yippie

>>88676094
>the morning show was unironically one of the few places where they really talked about themselves and what they've been up to day to day
It hasn't been like that for months. It's been all shilling for collabs and merch.

>>88675723
Because it's not 5ch where you can have a "good" thread and an anti thread. There's only one thread that has been hijacked by antis and disgruntled "fans" (assholes and schizo) to shit on FUWAMOCO constantly.
It's not that unusual on /vt/, but /baubau/ is probably the worst general of the board.

>>88676039
they're just hungry puppies

>>88673396
I'm unironically considering membering her just cause she's watching all the fun stuff. She just watched The Thing and talked about watching the six Star Wars movies too.

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Koyori is about to do her 5th FFX stream in 2 weeks. The shortest one was 5 and a half hours. Long running gaming streams and JRPGs are supposed to be numbers poison. Yet nobody is going to call her the FFX streamer. FUWAMOCO need to get over their own self imposed bullshit and finish the content people actually like from them.

>>88676299
>Star Wars
You would have to pay me to watch this, not the reverse.

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>>88676299
Her membership stream where she was learning and practicing songs was so good

>Irys regularily watches and talks about new anime
>Kiara is working through watching every Monogatari series with her fans
>Reine is still playing VN-esque games on her channel.
Just need a retro game player.

I’ve noticed more of you in Biboo’s chat lately because of the pawprints. I’ve also noticed an uptick in wifeposting in /gem/ these past few weeks. None of that is bad but I guess some Ruffians really are checking out other avenues

>>88676299
If you want that, IRyS is great for that. She's watched Starship Troopers, Blade Runner 2049, The Thing, etc.

>>88676200
They'd still occasionally talk *a little* bit about their day like this week when they went on a walk and saw that girl that reminded them of Dark Water, or about how Fuwawa had really fluffy day

That's the thing that frsustrates me at least. When they play games it feels like that's like their sole focus and they don't talk about their day during gameplay. So now we're gonna have to rely on fucking super chats of all things to hear anything about their days

>>88676174
What makes you think this?

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>>88676441
How much per movie anon, I want to watch it with you
We can share some popcorn

Newissa skipped liking my tweet...

>>88676485
That's pretty great. But I do remember seeing screenshots from IRyStocrats showing her member polls and more often than not the worst choice always won.
Didn't she even want to watch a bonus thing on top and people voted for her to stop the stream and go sleep instead once time?
Weird people...

What's the point of complaining they'll never change so shut up or leave

>>88676598
Yeah I suppose you might be right

>>88676598
I still have faith the Ruffians can help steer them on the right path.

>>88676598
They did a pretty good job changing with the move. Who's to say it couldn't happen again?

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Holy shoot you guys. I'm so behind on streams...

>>88676598
I dunno what's the point of many millions of people discussing sports or politics if they can't change the outcome anyway?

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>>88676590
trannies infiltrate as concernfags

>>88676477
Fuwamoco are a gateway drug into the wider hololive sphere.

>>88676434
>Long running gaming streams and JRPGs are supposed to be numbers poison.
Long running streams are great for numbers, depending of the games they attract a lot of casual viewers. They're not built for this though, so no point asking. Also JRPG are 100% numbers poison. Koyori is doing her usual numbers, which is great, but nothing special like Subaru does.
Also comparing anyone to Koyori is retarded.

>>88676662
Lol, they changed because of the circumstances they found themselves in, not because of the ruffians. The ruffians don’t have power over them. Not even their parents can’t change their ways.

>>88676724
Are they really? FWMC are not very "first time vtuber watcher outsider" friendly imo.

>>88676519
Depends of the movie. The original trilogy is still "fine", but the prequels... Better have a deep waller.

>>88676838
their horror game streams are. You don't really need to know much else aside from "cute retarded dogs make noises"

>>88676648
And who's giving them feedback where they can see it?

>>88676920
You just want me to name names so you can use them for your schizo loops and screenshots. Do the work yourself bitch.

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>>88676724
Yeah, it feels like Advent and FWMC funneled in a bunch of new people. So it's always cool to see some ruffians who only watch them branch out a bit.

>>88676690
I have at least one stream from debut week I still haven't watched.

>>88676903
Ok I guess but you could say that for any holo's horror streams
Overall I'd say most other ENs are more entry friendly than them though, especially the likes of Mori or Biboo

>>88676903
Most normie friendly vtubers are just normal girls with nice voice like Fauna, Irys, Mumei. They would flee in terror if they heard "Mocochan"

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wemember to eat lots of candy wuffians

>>88675079
I got tired of a bunch of vtubers before. You know what I never did? Spend time every single day shitting up their general to complain about a vtuber I'm tired of.

>>88676838
It feels that way, and I know several whose first oshis were FWMC. They have incredible memetic value, clips and funnies quite often get spread outside the vtube circle eg 102.3 Fuwamo Radio, and people see two cute retards going BAU BAU and get roped into this world.

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>>88677191

>>88676838
I watched a tiny bit of Myth and IRyS when they debuted for a couple weeks each, but only extremely casually occasionally kept up with Hololive until FWMC.

>>88677191
Between this and her Halloween VP, why is she such an architect?

>>88676838
It helps that youtube algorithm pushes them even on normies.

>>88677275
>tfw they've mentioned several times they're able to eat chocolate

>>88677352
I feel like that only really happened with their wrestling clips and then also on the JP side. Their VoD views are kinda weak considering their subs

>>88677409
>but its funnier if they couldnt

>>88676434
I don't want that. Go watch Koyori, I'm very happy with their stream length, even think they should do a few shorter ones.
Yet another reminder that this thread used to praise the stream length as ojisan friendly. If their shortest stream during their first two weeks was 5 and a half hours long I would not have become a ruffian at all. I don't have time for this.

>>88677352
>>88677177
They're good "babby's first vtuber" for non-normalfags who just happened to have not gotten into vtubers before. As big as vtubers are, there's still room for the market to expand to non-normalfags. Vtubers are still a relatively small part of anime cons for example, even if the content of anime cons has been more appealing to normalfags over time.

>>88676434
It sounds miserable to try to comprehensively keep up with Koyori.

Stream length is the least of the problems.
The problem is what they stream. Less throwaway fotm slop please more good stuff.
And way more karaoke too.

>>88676838
I see a ton of nips at least getting introduced to Hololive through them on twitter. Not sure how that happens, but it does. I guess the twin novelty makes them click the clip instead of ignoring it like they've been doing so far.

>>88677518
>Yet another reminder that this thread used to praise the stream length as ojisan friendly. If their shortest stream during their first two weeks was 5 and a half hours long I would not have become a ruffian at all. I don't have time for this.
You've been trying to push this shit for months now sister and it never works. Fuck off.
>>88677637
If you love your oshi, it's not miserable at all.

>>88677559
Is that their future? Attracting tourists who move on to better vtubers when they get bored of their one dimensional mascot act?

>>88677559
Very true actually I can imagine huge swathes of casual weebs that never quite dabbled in vtubers getting into FWMC as their first.

>>88677689
Throat hort.
They don't really do much fotm actually. Throwaway slop yes, but not fotm. I'd actually like them to do more fotm games like the card shop simulator. They're fotm for a reason and I don't watch anyone else.

>>88677736
Is this the best bait you can conjure? Damn, they don't make trannies like the 90s anymore.

>>88677736
I don't see anything wrong with that.

>>88677736
please leave

>>88677518
We used to praise their short streams when they streamed *at least* once per day every single week. Now, without FWMC morning we'll have even less time with them, and multiple days per week without streams. Some of us actually enjoy spending time with them, even if *you* hate it and see it as a chore.

>>88677727
The archives are still available, you can't rewrite history. Get a job.

Stroking Mococo’s penis. Licking the precum leaking from her urethra. Fondling and caressing her balls.

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>>88677518
Here's the thing there used to be a time where they WERE streaming a fuck ton. So while I understand people preferring the shorter streams, it's not like they have never done long streams either. If you're someone who really liked their schedules in December and January you'd probably be disappointed by now.

>>88677559
I've been watching hololive since early 2020, and FWMC are my first and only oshis.

>>88677811
Imagine them getting retarded and silly over card pack opening.
A man can dream...

>>88677893
Funny you say that because it's your side always bitching about their content while I'm happy to spend two hours with them playing whatever they want to play. Because the main act is the idol content, games are just filler to spend time together.

>>88678008
>the main act is the idol content, games are just filler to spend time together.
This is true but man does saying it rile people up.

>>88677903
Their first 100 days were not only ojisan unfriendly, they were actively hostile to anyone who had a job or a semblance of a life. I was a NEET and I couldn't even follow everything.

>>88677943
>gartic phone

>>88677943
The longest streams there are the ones everyone marathons because of Konami's stingy time limited perms.
If you're someone who really liked their busiest schedules yet, surely you also heard they telling you it would change and to not take it for granted. There's not much to discuss, if you need those insane schedules to be happy, you will never be happy again. That's just the truth of the matter.

>>88678120
That stream was awesome. They should do it again.

>>88678008
That may well be the case but it would be nice if they picked better games, and did more karaoke. Hell, they ought to be putting out way more covers and songs, too.

What part of “they don’t care about you as much as you think they do” do you people not understand?

>>88678008
Shut the fuck up, you dishonest bitch. You are not "content with things as they are now" you are actively asking for shorter streams.
>games are just filler to spend time together
Yeah, and you hate the time you spend with them and want them to spend even less time with us, kill yourself already sister.

>>88678103
I had a job and I could follow it. There were no 13 hours VN streams, no 6 hours GTA while I work and 2 hours something else at night when my total free time without sacrificing sleep is like 3 hours. Last couple of months were way harder to keep up with than the first couple, in my opinion. It's having more content coming out before I can finish what's pending that makes it hard to keep up, not consecutive days of streaming in general. So long hours are really hard.

>>88678368
Shut the fuck up and let us all enjoy the parasocial relationship that this genre of entertainment is specifically designed to foster.

>>88678369
We don’t have to ask for shorter streams, FWMC will gladly give them to use because they would rather focus on homework than spend time with us. Kekaroo.

What do you think the trick or treating stream will be? They didn't ask for submissions and it's 3D but only home3D so they can't do too much. A candy eating stream seems out of their wheelhouse but they did say to bring candy as a sort of cutesy halloweeny thing. The whole point of trick or treating is going to different houses, so maybe they got little vids or something from other holomem (but a reverse call in where they "knocked on the door" of other holomem would work better). On the other hand, they wanted to do it specifically to spend time with us, so incorporating other holomem wouldn't make sense.

>>88678368
What part of "you will NEVER be a woman" do you not understand?

>>88678208
Throat.
Hort.

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Quality > quantity

A 3 hour DKC2 stream is worth as much as a 4 hour SC reading + a 1 hour kanji de go + a 2 hour chillaslop combined

>>88678491
>What do you think the trick or treating stream will be?
Who gives a fuck? It's not gonna be Halloween anymore and we have management to thank for that.

>>88678208
Yeah, more karaoke would be nice, but I don't think the current amount is too little, compared to others I watch. I still agree just because I love their singing streams, but yeah.

>>88678580
Chillaslop is kino. Well, it's a coinflip if it's kino, but when it is, it's very kino.

>>88678580
Irrefutable.

>>88678580
SC readings are better than their gaming content

>>88678526
Hopefully they'll sleep more without FWMC Morning so they won't get throat hort as much, but that's probably wishful thinking...

>>88678682
Fuck off, paypig.

>>88678369
Yeah yeah, your love is performative and vapid, seen your kind before and outlasted all of them, not wasting any more time with you.

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>>88678487
I had a suspicion that you were a anti larping as a "dissatisfied Ruffian", thank you for proving me right. Now I know for sure that all of the negative posts from this thread are made by retarded sisters trying to demoralize us.

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>>88678722
Weird samefag. Was this your poor attempt at derailing?

>>88678682
Maybe a year ago when they actually told new stories in them during tangent moments

>>88678580
Kanji de Go is really fun, so is chillaslop. Agree that DKC2 is better than all, but you're only picking good content.
1 hour of DKC2 is worth as much as 12 of Fate, now that's making a statement.

>>88678605
I care. They care. Sure it won't have the "magic" it would have had without the delay, but clearly it was something they were looking forward to sharing with us, so I'm looking forward to it too.

Visual Novels are their best content they combine quality AND quantity. FUWAMOCO should become the Visual Novel Holos.

>>88678772
Absolute threadreading retard. This is one thing they irrefutably improved on. There were NO tangents a year ago. Nowadays even someone who dislikes SC readings should stick around for the first hour or so to enjoy some cute stories.

>>88678863
Disagree. Not about the content part, but they don't have perms for enough good stuff to become visual novel Holos, you would see the monkey paw acting in a couple of months with some of the mind numbing garbage they'd be streaming.

>>88678882
>Nowadays even someone who dislikes SC readings should stick around for the first hour or so to enjoy some cute stories.
lol
lmao even
No thanks, there are no "cute stories". Just shouting out the same 5 names every couple minutes while they complain about lack of sleep and their shit diet.

>>88678882
I don't feel that way at all. Back then we learned a lot of new things about them, now it's super repetitive and always outdated old SCs that all sound the same

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>get some sleep after fwmc morning
>wake up to no likes
I remember when they cared...

>>88678965
They are streaming mind numbing garbage now.

>>88679124
We're looping stream content right now. Come back in a little bit to start the likeschizo loop

>>88679125
Damn, I'm not that into Fate but that's a little harsh

>>88678882
Give examples of good stories.
>>88678971
>>88679120
Give examples of SC readings without cute stories.

>>88679124
If it makes you feel better they didn't go on a spree so you didn't get skipped

>>88678605
Fuck management. Pushing streams to a other day, making talents sit around while they play with their dicks, fucking up something with Justice's name attached.

>>88675079
honestly I mostly still post here because it's so active, I've gone back to watching Promise/Justice primarily. I will still usually pick their POV for Advent collabs, tho lately I've been going with Biboo for that too

>>88678605
Eh, who cares about candy day? It's not like they're rescheduling christmas or new years. The stream is more important than the day, unlike the other two other examples.

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>FWMC love the Ruffians.
>They don't have favoritism, they love ALL the Ruffians equally.
>They love spending time with the Ruffians.
>A real Ruffian enjoys spending time with FWMC, and want to be with them as much as possible.
>VNs and retro games are their BEST (normal) streams, and they should play those types of games weekly.
If you disagree with ANY of those statements you are a anti, and you should stop larping as a Ruffian, get the fuck out of here and slit your own throat.

>>88679440
None of this true.

>>88679440
Nerissa is clearly their favorite Ruffian though. The rest is true.

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>>88679440
>They love spending time with the Ruffians.
Then why don't they?

>>88679440
Yeah I can tell by my 0 ESR, 0 rts, 0 rnr, 0 submissions, 0 likes (in the last 3 months)
They really love me just as much as people who have 4 ESR, 11 rts, 2 rnr, 3 submissions and 500+ likes

>>88679440
RnR Parties are their best normal streams. But as you properly qualified, "normal" streams. Their best content are the things that keep them too busy to stream for too long, and therefore I see zero issues with stream length and find those whining about wanting long streams while also pretending to care about their health massive faggots.

Name a single holoEN member that loves their fans as much as FWMC loves the Ruffians.

>>88679540
Biboo loves the Pebbles more than FWMC love the Ruffians.

>>88679540
>Holo EN
Thankfully I can name Kiara but aside from her it's pretty grim.

>>88679540
Beebs

>>88679423
Kys

>>88679531
That's a you problem, friend. Tweet better.

>>88679440
I've seen more horrendous shit said by Ruffians about FWMC /here/ than I have in /#/ or Global. No one hates FWMC more than Ruffians. If they saw your true colours and read the shit you posted against them /here/, they'd cry. Worst fanbase.

>>88679540
Only Biboo and Kiara, maybe. No one else comes even close. Some actively despise their fans.

>>88679540
Biboo probably

>>88679585
Fuck off

>>88679540
Shiori.

>>88679540
biboo spent over 30 minutes last night alone with the pebbles
fuwamoco dipped immediately

Objective FWMC STREAM CONTENT RATING:
S tier: Long running series, watchalongs, zatzudans, Advent related stuff, Rock n rawr, watchalongs.
A tier: After party streams.
B tier: FWMC MORNING, collabs with JP senpais.
C tier: Shitty horror one offs.
D tier: Sponsored streams.
E tier: Supa readings, JP solo streams, big collabs that only include EN members.

>>88679440
I'm just gonna say it
How the fuck does it make any sense to say they don't have any favorites and love every Ruffian equally when they literally have a group called the FAMILY CLUB and familia and their greeting is "Welcome Home"

>>88679626
So true sis, that's definitely not you posting that shit either.

>>88679626
That's because there are almost zero Ruffians there and almost zero discussion about FWMC, so anyone wanting to start shit comes here.

>>88679626
That just means ruffians are more well behaved about posting off topic garbage elsewhere than globalniggers are here.

>>88679682
This but unironically.

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>>88679682
Nobetabros, we're S tier now!

>>88679685
So true, man. I loved the garbage stream this month, and the previous month, and the one before that too.

>>88679537
Most people care about the content of the stream, not the fucking lenght. If they played VNs, retro games or backlog games weekly, even for only 2 hours, the vast majority of the complains would stop.

You call everything anti.
If I say I want less chilla and more DKC I'm an anti.
If I say I don't want them to waste 3 hours a night on Twitter but to use that time on sleep or homework instead I'm an anti.
If I want them to sing more I'm an anti.
If I want them to do less solo JP streams I'm an anti.
If I want them to finish games instead of picking up new ones all the time I'm an anti.
If I don't want them to get glasses cause they are shit fuck you Fubuki I'm an anti.

>>88679626
>ruffians
faggot, its raiders usually using biboo to attack FWMC, but obviously promisefags also show up in force.
>FWMC are the worst, x whore is better
All of you should Kys

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>>88679682
I like the game show one with Todd and Jack a lot, but why is every other EN only collab such hot garbage? People will say it's just their POV but it's not like they were any good before Advent's debut either, EN collabs have always been trash.
Oh, Advent vs Justice so far has been pretty kino too, they should do more. I was scared of the management push for the Justice shilling, but those collabs were actually a ton of fun.

>>88679692
>>88679703
>>88679819
>IT'S TOTALLY ANTIS AND SISTERS PLEASE BELIEVE US
Yeah, no. Ruffians are god awful levels of menhera. They don't trust their own oshis. They pirate their paywalled content and you faggots WORSHIP a fucking literal pirate who does just that /here/. You destroy your own threads. This has served more as a containment thread than anything.

>>88679675
And FWMC made really sweet CYOA VN streams for Christmas and Valentines, where are Biboo's Christmas and Valentines VN streams?

>>88679877
Justice is first gen with socially competent people in EN

>>88679626
Kill yourself, globalFAGGOT.

>>88679801
Which is why it's important to voice your requests properly. Mococo even addressed the stream length complaint on stream, meaning a lot of it is reaching them. If it reaches them as "we want long (VN) streams!" then there's fuck all they can do. If only "more frequent VN/retro streams would be great" reaches them, that they CAN do something about.

>>88679905
It’s not ruffian bringing up other bitches, sisters have memberships to different girls and release their content, it’s not a new phenomenon

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>>88679926
>And FWMC made really sweet CYOA VN streams for Christmas and Valentines
Yeah, I too remember that time when they genuinely cared about their fans.

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>>88679926
>FWMC made really sweet CYOA VN streams for Christmas and Valentines
My favorite thing about those was that they didn't cost $45.

>>88679905
You are trying too hard now, sister.

>>88679905
>They pirate their paywalled content
Nigger you are in the wrong website to whine about piracy. And I agree that the thread celebrity worship is disgusting and would never share paid content from them that isn't expired.
But we have people coming here to share membership and voice pack content from OTHER chuubas unprompted, like the Mori wallpaper that had FWMC in it. Imagine thinking ruffians pirating their own oshi's content among themselves is the worst possible example when there's people propagating their oshi's paywalled content to complete tourists who don't give a fuck.

>>88679591
what's your problem? you're allowed to post in generals other than your oshi's you know

>>88679440
>as much as possible.
The trouble with this is that this part can mean a lot of different things to different people. What about their sleep/health? What about using Hololive to achieve their dreams and do idle activities? Them doing other things means it isn't possible to stream more without cutting some of things. What should be cut for them to stream more? If a Ruffian's time is limited, would that Ruffian's "as much as possible" mean FWMC shouldn't stream more so there won't be streaming hours that Ruffian would miss? Time zones add to those hours it isn't possible to spend with them too. And a Ruffian shouldn't be selfish if that Ruffian's "as much as possible" doesn't align with FWMC or other Ruffians, right?

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Biboo mention

All the arguments that FWMC gates their fans or whatever crumble with the fact that they have said that they are super but most days and that they choose wether to not have a stream or have a stream on certain days and they time and time again choose to have something, no matter how short. Because they love the ruffians. If a day comes where on a week FWMC HAS LIKE 3 days off with no stream. That is when I can maybe see that they don’t love us, even then that would be a stretch. FWMC LOVES US!!!

>>88680163
Not to shit on the threads chuuba. You are fucking trolling.

>>88679801
A stream or two a week, one of them being VN or DKC, would do a lot to make me happy with their content.

>>88680310
point out where I shit on FWMC.

>>88680248
Did anyone soundpost Fuwawa's "instant loss? YEAH" moment? Don't even remember the stream, but it was funny, kek.

>>88680070
You know what else had mostly soft speaking and cuteness abound and also didn't cost 45 dollars? Twitter spaces, but they only seem to do those now when they feel bad.

>>88679905
Hey make the point about how "threads were better during Breaking Dimensions" while your Phase and Niji "events" were flopping at the same time.

>>88680308
this will age poorly with FWMC Morning cancelled

>>88680561
>implying it's not planted bait precisely for this reason so he can then come back and pretend to be so disappointed

>>88680521
Threads were better during the move. Attention whores had nothing to attention whore about, sisters had no content to hatewatch and shit on, it was just people who wanted to talk about FWMC or their interests.
Or at least that's how I remember them.

From what stream?

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/123885079
God tier titty squish on Mococo here

>>88680859
>Fuwawa's "instant loss? YEAH" moment
meant for >>88680404

>>88680729
Bwfore the move was usually fine. The increase in attentionwhoring seriously ramped up with the hiding of likes. Shitposters, fags, and menhera's can now pretend like they get skipped while only certain people get liked, vs before when you could see a stream of different names all the time.

>>88680914
I don't mubembe. She was reading a comment and just said YEAH. I don't think her brain even registered the implication.

>>88680404
>>88681095
https://x.com/DekoreshonKeki/status/1841319866877325388/video/1
This one?

Watching CC create herself in MH WIlds pretty cute.
I wonder how long FWMC would spend on making the palico cat look cute, they'd be obsessed with it

nae won, you lost

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boring

>>88681415
Why is Friend showing me her pantsu?

>>88681236
It has to be. I've been searching through the archive and I didn't find anything else.

>>88670637
Found one of the dog halloween party dox don't know which one it is thou do you work /baubau/ identify it!
https://files.catbox.moe/qs3ioa.jpg

>>88681652
Looks like Sissel to me.

>>88681652
That's clearly Mococo.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGCNOxSxUlM&t=1405s
I love Fuwawa's voice.

I'm glad sisters are trying to push Nae as a favorite now because it's so hard to believe that it doesn't affect my mental at all.

>>88681479
That's Vanilla not Fubuki

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>>88681931
I love that growly voice she makes...

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How come they weren't invited to this? Aren't they friends?

>>88682340
How come you haven't killed yourself? Aren't you despised by everyone around you?

>>88682320
Yaaaaaaah

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>>88682340
Their collab will happen eventually.

And silence. It's all one retard every single time.

>>88682340
why is mint so popular, are they all pole sisters? (that pole? me)

>>88682783
She's a great.

>>88682340
Thankfully they're not helping her leech and mooch.

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>>88682416
I love her.

>>88682860
They’re good friends, so seethe as much as you want. Their collab will happen in due time. Just be patient.

GG shitting on management because of the delays and fuck ups yesterday

>>88683000
What's she saying?

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>>88682416

>>88682783
Pole?

>>88682767
No, I just got out what I wanted. I have no interest in samefagging and when the discussion gets overly repetitive, I just stop replying.

>>88670647
BAU BAU

I hate MonHun so much it’s unreal.

>>88670647
BAU BAU
>>88670671
BAUSED

>>88683212
How can you hate MonHun
Cute girls slapping around monsters with oversized weapons made out of monster parts is amazing

FWMC should stream Elona

>>88683212
I’d never play it myself but I like watching holomems play it.

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>>88683049
I love this fluffy woman...

FWMC should hire a clip editor

the only bad thing about FUWAMOCO is how they used to sing better before the move in their karaoke party, is not just me right?

>>88683212
I think it's fun to watch once or twice, it only gets annoying when it takes over a chuuba's channel. So it could be actually perfect for FWMC who would only ever touch it for Advent collabs.

>>88682340
pretty grim when people would rather hang out with ERB than FWMC

Feels so weird being a newffian of 2 months and seeing you guys lament how things currently are.

>>88683634
What attracted you to them?

>>88683697
Probably the same thing that attracted anyone who watched their debut.

>>88683634
Most Ruffians would agree that the vast majority of their best streams are from before they moved to Japan. Things are not terrible now, but they could be much better.

>>88683456
Granted
It's tekzi

>>88683697
Their Breaking Dimensions performances and MC. Loved Doggy god’s street with Koone and Kobo. After that I started checking them out some more

>>88683458
It can't be helped. They even said they have debuff voice now.

>>88683212
Fubuki invited them to release MH collabs last night.

>>88684078
imagine they join her collab and not Biboo's

>>88683634
As a day one ruffian it's not that things are bad, it's just that things have changed. I still enjoy their streams, but there are a lot less ones every week that I'd say I'm really excited for. FWMCMORNING had boken stale and a shadow of it's former self, I think they felt that too and I'm glad they decided to put it into hibernation. Doing basically the same stream 3 times a week for over a year can get repetitive for anyone, so a creative break is understandable, on top of DST making it even later for them. You'll never understand how good things used to be, and maybe that's for the best. They have bigger fish to fry now they're in japan so it makes sense and I don't blame them that they want to put time into making connections with other holos and working towards being idols and getting that sololive.

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>imagine they join her collab and not Biboo's

>>88673396
Why is it you faggots always ask us to watch biboo or shiori and never nerissa?

>>88684151
Nerissa watching posts are very suble.

>>88683975
heh I am glad, welcome new blood

>>88684071
it sucks cause I loved their karaoke streams the most

>>88683975
Yeah, I'm really glad their performance of "BAU"DOL was in the free part of day 1, and doggy god's street was great. What have been some of your favorite streams (or other content like VPs) since then?

>>88684450
The only option is for them to push karaokes to 8pm PT.

>>88684071
What do they mean debuf voice?

>>88684472
I'd be for this, but they'd probably have meeting hort

>>88684151
>coombait
>constant sympathy baiting
>mid tier singer at best despite selling herself as the "demon of sound"
>too self conscious to sing
>wet blanket during all game collabs because she gets frustrated and pissy immediately
nerissa sucks

>>88684616
kys

>>88684616
Cute. I want to pamper her

>>88684616
Irrefutable.

>>88684616(me)
also forgot
>collabed with the vshojo tranny and other literal whos
>too boring herself so relies on spamming family streams
>>88684676
you first

>>88684616
Yeah on Fuwawa.

>>88684472
At least DST changing gives them an extra hour without changing it for PST. Should help a little bit. It'll still be 6PM PT but 11AM JST instead.

Fuwawa’s large tits and nipples.
Fuwawa’s pussy and asshole, even.

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>>88684948
and Mococo's penis

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We should watch The Fall Guy, it has Ryan Gosling and Fall Guys, two things that represent FWMC and the ruffians. It's available to rent on prime and youtube, so easy to watch. #helpFWMC

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>>88684948
What about them?
>>88685009
Mococo doesn't have a penis see there's no bulge.

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>>88685009
>Mococo's penis

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>>88676477
no you haven't... though I do love how much more chill /gem/ is

>>88684745
I want to suck on Fuwawa...

>>88685072
They liked this even though it shows some mocopussy skin...

>>88685072
I want to violate Mocotyan’s body.

>>88685031
Kek, was hoping it was real

>>88685349
It is real though

>>88685193
They're getting bolder as time passes
>>88685251
Bryan you can't be doing that even if she's the perfect candidate for it

>>88684078
Source? (Perhaps I missed it)

>>88684616
everything about her is endearing for indies but absolutely insufferable at hololive