>>88784721
she already streamed more as dooby than she did this year as ame

>>88784721
hey numbermonke, you're supposed to watch the funny anime girl on the website, not the tiny numbers next to her

>>88784721
Hey Anon you forgot to put your blacked.com tab in the screenshot.
Next time!

why is she so scuffed? that's what I wanna know

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>>88784721
It's fucking over

>>88784721
clearly you aren’t watching the streams to see the numbers drop after her internet issues

>>88784834
>She'll destroy Hololive!
>Still can't do anything about the "EN curse" 4 years into this
This is the part where you admit she's incompetent

>be a streamer
>build a new house
>don't bother to make sure that you will have a good connection at your new place
>whole family lives off of your income but you can barely stream cause your internet is so shit

genius

>>88784721
>I'm gonna test the waters for the next step of indy Vtubing!
>by using a needlessly expensive model which requires equally expensive rigging to maintain!
>and doing lousy streams where I just stand there or do the same shit I've always done full of scuff!
Watch out corpos, Dooby's really lighting the path forward.

I see dooby is today's target of shitters

yawn, can't we just go back to ERB Bait threads?

>>88784721
So this is Ame's true worth without the blue dorito...

>>88784821
>200
Is this bad? How do vod views work on twitch?
Do people watch vods at all?

>>88784904
>>88784943
Literally everything her antis said would happen has happened except for giving up and not streaming but most said it would happen 1 to 2 months in.

>>88784821
Wait, she went indie so she could play CS again?
I thought she stopped being Sachiowo because she got smarter than that

>>88784821
There's no way this is real. That's less than a Finana...

>>88785088
Was Ame not allowed to play Counter-Strike? I'm sure I saw her play it from time to time.

>>88785061
Psst, here's a hint. Antis of every sort get stuff right 2/3 of the time, because they're usually former fans who couldn't take shit anymore and/or were directly disrespected by whoever they were paying money for.

>>88785088
She's probably still coasting off on residual from Hololive, just not "active" as Ame.

>>88785403
*antis are usually jakartan threadreaders who have never watched a stream in their 15 years on this earth

>>88785475
>Literally everything her antis said would happen has happened
Yes, it's the boogeyman, it's always the boogeyman. Your oshi is perfect, the boogeyman is just a meany poo-poo head saying dirty lies.

>>88785475
oof, projection

>>88785475
No one brought up Jakartans, though? Sounds to me like you're a self-hating indog who wants to involve his country in something that actually matters.

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In 3 months she's going to be at negative views. It's over.

>>88784764
>the tiny numbers
indeed

>>88785518
i've never seen one of these supposed "former fan" antis of literally any vtuber on any social media platform
it's always some phasefag or clipwatcher from indonesia or the philipines parroting what he saw in a bvtm post

Why are holotards like this? It's funny because HoloEN can't even muster a 30k stream anymore no matter what they do, except for 3D lives that rely on JP tourists.

>>88784891
Didn't your shit Halloween collab get delayed by 3 hours, holofag?

>>88785675
You'd be surprised that a lot of people who favor anonimity online don't have social media platforms and like, dislike and anti things without feeling the need to broadcast it to the world ahead of time.

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I dunno man, it's just so disappointing. I mean,I guess she got a huge buff from being the first genuine graduation in HoloEN.
But seriously her content is disappointing and scuffed. I wish she wasn't so full of herself that she made this weird decision. The thing that sucks is that she's rewarded for it because she was first to the punch, that doesn't make it a good decision.

>>88785729
>we r lejun

>>88785691
>no matter what they do
>except
Already moving the goalpost in the same sentence, I see. I accept your concession

>>88785747
>first
>genuine

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>>88785765
Yeah, so far. It's probably a question of when, not if, HoloEN can't even muster that anymore.

>>88784721
Her affiliation status and what she made as Ame will guarantee her a comfortable life anyway (unless she us extremely retarded with money)
Streaming is just her hobby now. She doesn’t care if she gets 5K viewers or 50K

>>88785760
>im on xitter im gud indurnetter yuck yuck yuck :DDDD
Retard

>>88785747
Yeah, it's a shame. Oh well, you know what they say about power. It really does corrupt people

>>88785747
Ame's failure will serve as a warning to other ENs

>>88785805
>using the least popular en for an argument
lole

>>88785832
that's literally the only silver lining here

>>88785850
That's not Shiori.

>>88785747
>The thing that sucks is that she's rewarded for it because she was first to the punch
Anon it's her first week and she already had 5k on those csgo streams. Kson and mikeneko had way better numbers after their comebacks. And look at them now.
Dooby's FUCKED.

>>88784821
>>88785088
I like CS but think it's a pretty tough streaming game because you literally have to be quiet to listening for footsteps, distant activity etc to try to assess the situation. If you jog around like it's CoD people will hear you coming a mile away and get the drop on you over and over. So if you're good and trying to actually be a good teammate you're not gonna talk unless absolutely necessary which is bad for being an entertainer, and if you're clowning around you're gonna get clowned on endlessly. If she doesn't mind being clowned on then it doesn't really matter in the end I guess but the thing is that's also not great content watching someone get bodied on loop.

>>88785805
>Mori
Literally the Runt of EN. Hope she follows dooby. They can homocollab like the old days.

>>88785985
>not great content watching someone get bodied on loop
Heh.. hehehe.. you funny. You die last.

>>88786063
With all the side gigs Mori has and generally having a nice, cozy job that let her do all that shit and even got her to drop the extra weight, there is no way she drops Hololive. Especially not after Doob's popularity fiasco

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>>88786063
>>88785850
>>88785805
wow, this really is pathetic.

>>88785088
Wish i screenshot some of the stuff i said when she graduated, it was obvious she just wants to play shooters 24/7 to her chat with the occasional creative stream (every few months)
Anyone thinking that she was going to creatividad full time for months on end after leaving hololive "restrictions" was overdosing on copium the entire time, this is basically her retiring and announcing she just wants to coast from now on (which is why she is retarded, because she could've done the same thing without graduating from hololive, gura-style, but i guess she turned out even MORE lazy than the shark)

>>88786220
She's just a performer. Calm down, edgelord

>>88786258
Isn't clara a literal who that gets 200 viewers at most? no one is going to be "copying" a nobody like that, because no one even knows they exist

>>88786285
You don't get it, Mori's copying her in the sense of getting down to 3view.

>>88786285
most of the Mori seethe comes from 3views who unironically think Mori took a slot from them.

>>88784764
spbp

>>88786285
Nah clara's very successful and gets like 1k.
Could have been holo though

>>88786331
>BVTM not really learning anything.
Get an ad, Phaseshit.

>>88786349
>>88786285
>>88786318
>Could've been holo though.
What did I tell you? At this point, I'm now sure that this idiot is either Clara herself, or a delusional fanboy of Clara's in Phase's army of shills.

>>88784721
desu I'm sick of threads like this. Every thread has to be negative these days. Every damn thread.

>>88786389
the delusional ones are the morifags though

>>88786411
>gets collabs left and right
>with Lotus Juice
>with literal legends of the genre she loves
You need to get your head checked, Clara.

>>88784721
she's doing way better than ame, wdym?
she even streams at degen hours at this point.
the doob persona is way more enjoyable now

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>>88785023
The grunt of VShojo gets more views than that, but maybe that's because most people watch the YouTube VODs.

>>88786443
>she can pay for clout
so impressive

and she's happier and actually enjoys her job when she doesn't need to sell plastic for shareholders and fill out paperwork to play a video game

>>88785747
>the first genuine graduation
that was Sana
Ame didn´t even have a graduation

>>88786672
>she's happier
lol

>>88784986
>today

>>88786393
There's over 20 generals on the catalogue where any semblance of criticism is immediately discarded as schizo ramblings, I suggest you go to one of those safe spaces if you don't like what people have to say about your oshi.

To be fair, she had about 6000~7000 viewers as Ame when she was playing csgo + shitty internet, late night time stream

>>88784721
FYI this thread and other catalog threads are being spam created by BVTM to farm for his shitter
>>88784617
>>88785164

>>88786672
Selling plastic is what enabled her to do this in the first place.

>>88785805
It's not even a question of when. JP is already suffering. Only 10k for a major 3D live. It's looking grim for Hololive as a whole. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Saj0ywe170

>>88787019
Whether or not he skins cats alive or whatever doesn't mean he's wrong in criticizing dooby. It would make him a felon though, but not a felon with a wrong opinion.

>>88787247
That's not a 3D concert. It's a rebroadcast of her past lives.

>>88785589
That's not even possible.

>>88787318
you suck at talking about yourself in third person, BVTM vermin

>>88787247
You know there's people who can read Japanese and see that this is a rebroadcast right?
Jesus doobtroons are retarded. Enjoy getting grudgeposted until the end of time.

>>88785023
twitch vods don't count the people who watched live.

>>88787321
>>88787496
Holocope. Gura is going to leave your black company to join vshojo KEK

>>88787409
Is the BVTM in the room with us right now?

>>88787318
Ah yes the eloquent criticism of "no way bruh"
Suck a shotgun you third worlder

>>88787601
Kson did too. Look at her now.

>>88785391
It's an awful stream game. It takes too much concentration, and barely anything happens on screen. I could only watch it for a few minutes before getting bored, which is made worse by her not being able to talk properly during gameplay. I'll watch her play other games or even fiddle around with 3D for hours, but CS is just awful.
There's a reason Doki rarely streams her FPS slop unless either there's a collab to yap with.

>>88787609
>>88787409
>>88787019

>>88787624
See >>88787609

>>88787629
Don't bother replying bro, he's just shitposting to get YOUs

>>88787676
>monkey scrambles as he's exposed

>>88787676
>>88787609

>>88784821
wtf is that neck?

>>88787019
that explains all the inorganic spam threads in the catalog lately

>>88785589
No way. She lost 30k viewers in 5 days.
In 10 days she'll owe twitch 60k viewers in debt.

>>88786318
>3views
try 1-2views

>>88786899
BVTMfags aren't people.

>>88786349
I don't think Clara would be happy in Hololive because she couldn't do a lot of her crazy shit
Not everyone would fit well in a Japanese corpo environment, even if they have the talent to be there

>>88788118
Quit ban evading

Did she say why she left?

>>88786261
no, you don't understand, cover was threatening her with perms and stole her talent freedom

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>>88785137
>>88784821

>>88785805
>JP hours
>under JP overlap
>file.png
3 STRIKES

The crux of the matter is that she's boring to watch, even the dramafags that are waiting for a big jab will leave in some weeks and by then even former teammates will realize that she's absolutely mild.

She will have the core, hardcore amefags and sit around 2k views for the rest of her career most likely, don't need more either and as long as her retarded ass doesn't antagonize her fanbase further, she wild be settled for life.

>>88785403
>former fans
You mean clipwatchers and threadreaders.

>>88788010
>Japanese corpo environment
Isn't she in a literal japanese branch of a corpo? Seems a lot like splitting hairs, especially when phase talents have been scolded publicly by management more times than hololivers have

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>hololivers

>>88784721
That's what she wants

>>88788829
Nice bots dude. It now has significantly more views than every recent stream before and after it.
Nobody is buying that the CSGO vod is massively more popular despite getting her her lowest ccv thus far.

>gets to stream what she wants
>streams way more often
>actually sounds happy

Face it, she won.

>>88784764
how are you supposed to enjoy something that isn't the most popular thing currently? weird mentality

>>88789161
>Streams more often
So far her antis were right about her streams still being scuffed, her internet still being fucked and her doing fps slop that would kill her views.
The only remaining predictions left are her homocollabing and her getting bored of streaming within 6 momths.

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>>88785722
And it was beautiful

Where are you now fag
>>88424502
>>88424502
>>88424502

>>88789196
>her antis
bvtm? who cares lol

>>88789196
Imagine wearing anti as a badge of honor, shit stained monkey

>>88789274
>>88789295
Maybe she shouldn't have proven them right. KEK

>>88789346
KEK ME BROTHA PUT ME IN THE SCREENSHOT

>>88789196
>antis were right about a VTuber having scuff!
>and an fps streamer playing fps
Wow, such Prophet, much clairvoyant. Move over, Baba Vanga!

>>88789194
Sad but true for most /vt/users. They don't know any media beyond their tiktok recommendations and would never watch/play/do anything that isn't the current meme of the day.

>>88784721
Only holocucks are angry at her. But why?
>numbernigger
oh that's why.

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>>88787635
Filtered midwit. It's literally one of the most popular games for the past 20+ years and it only gets bigger.

>>88784721
>Do your reps, report and ignore bait.

>>88789765
Holofans are the ones watching her stupid tranny.

>>88789828
he said CS2 was an awful stream game, not a bad game in general, ESL-kun

>>88790095
If it was bad stream game it wouldn't make one of the most popular esports to watch. The issue really is high estrogen weeb community doesn't overlap with hypermasculine fps community very much.

>>88789909
>Holofans are the ones watching her stupid tranny.
DYRBI

>>88790599
Yeah, her YT CCV is higher for a reason.

Went from being the symbol of holo's fall to just another turd holo shat out.

>>88790472
watching it as an esport game and a streamer streaming it is two whole different experiences retard

>>88790472
Except when you're watching CS2 as an esport, you don't have the expectation that the player will comment on the experience as he's playing or reading messages from a chat and answering questions or bantering. Which is the whole point of watching a vtuber stream a game.

>>88785531
t. Jakartans

this thread just reeks of teakek cope

>>88791043
what's there to cope about she's doing better than ever

>>88791060
the stench is a little worse in this corner

As we saw with Doki, no matter how many transient viewers you get during your redebut, your audience will level off at about the same amount. Possibly up or down a bit.
Up since you are exposed to more people who might stick around. But down because you'll lose some of your original fanbase who are dissatisfied by the change in content.

The thing that concerns me about Dooby
>not just a change in content, literally a change in platform
>her lazy behavior is still present, she had some cushion at the corp but as an indie it's a death sentence
>she has no more guardrails against yabs

So I think she will lose a significant portion of her original audience. But she also has the potential to create a bigger mess for herself with her temper and tendency to run her into problems.
As for the upside, I don't know. She is a comforting presence who a lot of people called their oshi, but can an OG really stand up against the new generation? She was in the right place at the right time to be part of Myth, but she's up against the likes of Filian, Bao, people who have fought through the fire and been selected for their entertainment value.

>>88784721
It's best just to think of her as just another big indie. She's not going to revolutionize the indie scene, nor is she going to fall into destitution. She's not God's gift to man, but her loyal fans will continue to enjoy watching her even as all the tourists with high expectations leave. Ex-Holos aren't supernatural beings, but just normal streamers that do normal things like everyone else.

>>88791173
Uh oh!

>>88791351
>her loyal fans

>>88791173
I understand why holofags are afraid, they are lashing out pretty bad

>>88792636
>holofans
Only tourists that call themselves a fan because it's the big thing cares.

>>88784721
indiefags always embarrassing themselves

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Truly embarrassing watching browns pray for the downfall of Dooby so they can shitpost while larping as holofans in an attempt to turn the board against them while not realize that the majority of holofans support Dooby.

>>88793823
>while larping as holofans
I wish it were that simple

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>>88785023
live stream viewers don't count as vod views on twitch. so when a stream ends it begins with literally 0 views. that screenshot was taken either when dooby was still live or immediately after she ended, before people had time to actually watch the vods. here's what they look like now.

>>88785023
>>88796804
Literally every screenshot you see of her numbers is posted in bad faith because they take it like 10 minutes into the stream and go
>HOLY KEK SUCH LOW NUMBA LMRAO
If only this board was moderated

>>88793823
That majority is slowly turning into minority it seems

>>88785475
You should try >>88790981 is more your pace

>>88791173
Oh lord, it is actually real

>>88784721
She streams on 3 platforms at once, so her real ccv numbers are between 10k to 15k

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>>88786899
>I need my schizo safe-spaces instead

>>88790472
Is she in the esports team? dumbass, noone wants to watch average joe sucking dicks in silver(dooby).

>>88784721
The only issue I have with watching her is that she's overlapped by my oshi *shrug* shouganai, ne

>>88784721
internet hort, tommy hort.

>>88785137
PARASOCIAL-

>>88789517
My experience is that the less popular ones almost always goes downhill due to "creative freedom", either being a grifter, a tranny shill or in the best case become popular themselves.

>>88784721
She is fine, she just needs to pick a platform and stop trying to multicast cuz that aint working and as an indie she needs to start caring about her finances, so just buying more shit and getting an expensive ISP just to marginally improve her internet could cause financial issues in the long run, the stratgegy of "streaming on yt today, twitch tomorrow" could be a better fix without extra costs being added to her operations.

>>88801646
I'm certain that she has enough money to feed her for life

>>88801646
She said she'll stop the multicast

>>88801721
Nah I dont think so, not when you have a large family and bills to pay, and her youtube channel is not making any money right now, Im sure she has lots of money, but if you aint careful money tends to melt away

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>>88784721
Holos are boring and are nothing without the built in holobox, we have known this forever,

>>88784821
3view soon

>>88784721
But talent freedom

>>88791340
Dokibird also doesn't have any guardrails and is reportedly so lazy that she won't buy real cutlery or plates because then she'd have to wash them. If a talking tomato can pull it off, so too can Dooby.

>>88806420
Dokibird isn't afraid of leeching and pushing herself to normie spaces(tourneys, collabs with controversial vtubers like Pippa and Filian). Dooby is a fucking introvert that has like 2.5 vtuber friends in the scene, its over for her

>>88801081
Just because they're doomed to go downhill, that doesn't mean it's not worth it. The best things in life are fleeting.

holoseethe?

>>88792864
From my observations the most notable difference between these holofans and tourists seems to be the former's loose grasp of English.

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I shant be watching

>>88784821
The Filian killer, everyone

>>88784721
Less incels watching. That's nothing but a good thing.

>>88809165
Ok phasemonkey.

>>88806420
You do realize that the Doki also streams nearly daily and her fanbase actually begs her to not stream at times?
I remember a week where I saw her schedule had 9 streams and then she had 4 off stream collabs added in with fleshies.
I don't think Dooby has that kind of work ethic

>>88796243
This. The thing is that shitters are just tapping into a genuine disgruntlement of Holodrones and slightly exaggerating their proliference to create a feedback loop, similar to how foreign troll farms tap into the vocalized anxieties and delusions of the useful idiots. Tribbalniggers are too dualistically minded to understand the subtleties of informational warfare to see it as anything other than mutually exclusive options of holochimps and falseflaggers.

>>88784721
just wait until you learn that some of your favorite livers hade 100k+ CCV debuts and are now small 3views that make like $15 a week

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oof

>>88810700
>I screenshotted at 0.2 seconds again, guise!

>>88801753
Stop it on which platform?

>Over 10k Monster Hunter slop. Eat shit antis.

>>88812428
>slop
end your existence

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>>88810700
I don't really care about numbers but why do people keep pushing the "She fell off" and post fake shit when I can literally see she 12k right now.

Also if in the future she gets like idk 3k or 4k CCV, these stupid fucking posts you guys made just people get annoyed so much that they don't care to check anymore, like a fucking Boy who Cried Wolf situation. So yeah, fuck you liars in particular.

Fucking annoying ass niggers ass fucking Boy Cried Wolf people in catalog, and meidos ain't doing shit, useless ass fatass fucking can't even enforce their own low quality bait rules. Hey fucking meidos, all these liar posts are Low Quality, how the fuck are they still here.

>>88806420
The reason why Doki doesn't buy real cutlery or plates is because she doesn't have time to wash them because she's streaming.

>>88784764
cringe

>>88809397
Yes, the dragoons do frequently fuss over Doki's self care (or lack thereof)

Yeah, you are right. If Dooby can't rapid fire pull off projects on her own, she is gonna struggle in the indie sphere. Freedom ain't free.

>>88784721
This faggot is trying so hard he keeps making catalog bait.
>>88810786

>>88785805
>mori
are you serious right now?

>>88818484
>"mori"
Are you?

>>88785475
They hated him because he spoke the truth.

>>88812428
Uh Fauna is beating her