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Matuli did nothing wrong
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she can't help it you see
she's just a girl
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I don't understand how some anons say she is as bad as miguel gato.
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>>88800442
She's fairly obviously a gigamenhera who's probably completely unbearable as a girlfriend (she already showed how weird she could be with Fubuki and Sara) so I kinda understand where they come from.

But the thing is that Matuli has an IQ above 80 and probably lacks the narcissim that miguel has, so yeah she's better than her
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>>88800549
My love would fix her I think
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>>88800442
she can't prove it because no one is dumb enough to get in an actual relationship with her, she is probably just a pump and dump
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>>88800986
>she is probably just a pump and dump
Yeah, mine
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She did something wrong. She kept doing things that her fans didn't want and that drove them away. If she had done what fans wanted she wouldn't need saving. Simple as.
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>>88800253
Just set up a covered booth in Japan and have her become the free use vtuber
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>>88801961
>If she had done what fans wanted she wouldn't need saving.
Her numbers are climbing recently.
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>>88800253
I'd like to have a one night stand with her.
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>>88802036
It's easy to climb when every stream isn't apex spam
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>>88800549
>she already showed how weird she could be with Fubuki and Sara
??????
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She showed how awful she is with Luna.
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She's quite the menhera but unlike mikeneko, she isn't stupid enough to ditch the golden goose and say no to all that money.
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>>88802345
this isn't even a meme because it actually happened like that, and then Hoshikawa went to fuck Haachama
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>>88800253
I like festival.
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>>88802321
Yeah I forgot about the Luna episode
>>88802277
It's a bit old but there was a time during which she was super clingy and obsessive towards Fubuki and then Hoshikawa, to the point of being really super weird, and unless it was the biggest acting stunt ever known to man, it probably had an incidence in their relationship
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>>88802494
I was there to watch.
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>>88800726
Unironically she probably needs a gaijin boyfriend/girlfriend who would shut down her autistic menhera japanese woman moments
Calling her out on her bullshit
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>>88802494
and Gundou.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiVk07oQZRY
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>>88802572
>the Luna episode
do I want to know?
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>>88802836
I don't have the details, all I know is that they collabed a lot at some point and then....stopped
Considering MATULI was involved and she displayed her usual antics it probably changed into some crypto-lesbian weirdass stuff that weirded out Nanora
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>>88802836
Matsuri broke Luna's hymen as a joke
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>>88803325
I don't think that's possible
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>>88803458
hymens can break while riding horses, they aren't bulleproof
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>>88803578
That explains a lot.
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>>88800253
If it wasn't for her constant APEX spam, I'd still watch her.
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>>88803749
She hasn't played Apex in two months. Please forgive her
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>>88800253
Only know her for her piss
In fact, that was my first vtuber clip
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>>88802836
Luna privated every video where she had collabed with Matsuri. They did a fruit game stream a few months ago to show that Luna didn't hate her at least. At one point Matsuri was signing songs about how she loved Luna. The Luna and Matsuri thing is one of the few confirmed serious issues between hololive members.
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>>88800253
What is it this time?
I will still love my perverted loli wife anyway
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>>88804120
I remember that there was a period that Matsuri and Luna were really close and doing some teetee
But was there really a big falloff?
What was the cause?
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>>88804120
>serious issues
Isn't that just common women behavior
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>>88800253
Is there any holo with more cucked fans?
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>>88804247
Seems like a big deal if Nanora hates Matsuri enough to delete all the vods and never have any contact with her considering that this is their workplace
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>>88804228
This is how the teetee ended. Who knows what Matsuri did, but it was clear Luna was not happy.
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>>88802085
>brown nipples
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>>88804359
I mean there are people who still watch Tokyo Tower. I feel like Matuli probably doesn't even leave the house
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>>88804120
>They did a fruit game stream a few months ago to show that Luna didn't hate her at least
They have been on speaking terms for a while now (they are probably just coworkers tho). Matsuri has calmed down a lot since her last meltdown about Hoshikawa, and she's pretty stable now

>>88804228
>What was the cause?
Unclear, but it was probably similar to what happened with Haachama: Matsuri got too close, started confusing friendship with romance, the other person didn’t like it, began ghosting her, and Matsuri had a bit of a meltdown. She took her 'breakup' with Luna even harder, going as far as commissioning a MV about their 'friendship' to try to get Luna's attention and fix things. To this day, Luna hasn’t acknowledged the existence of the MV
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>>88800549
>probably lacks the narcissim
She doesn't just lack it, if you pay attention, you'll notice that Matsuri agrees to play the butt of the joke basically every time there's some kind of scripted competition that could spark Holo vs Holo. In general she appears to be the kind of person who'd take a bullet for a friend without a second thought the other side of that particular coin being probably the weird clinginess. The other Holos also seem to agree that she's surprisingly seiso and professional behind the scenes, as long as you can tolerate the fact that she has zero idea of what "personal space" means.
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check /jp/
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Confirmed matsuri victims
>Luna
>Shion
>Haachama
Who else?
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>>88804493
Thanks. I did my best to remember the details. I'm not sure I'd call Matsuri stable though.
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>>88804665
Foobs
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>>88804474
jesas
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>>88804665
Hoshikawa
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>>88804467
What did she do? Aside from male collabs I guess.
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https://streamable.com/lhm9sq
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i could fix (impregnate) her
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>>88804819
Male voice in her house while streaming. She was dtf after the stream
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SjMGcg664Q
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>>88804453
yes, in my mouth and being tweaked by my fingers
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>>88804670
> I'm not sure I'd call Matsuri stable though
Well, it’s been a long time since her last scandal. She’s acting quite professional nowadays and no longer uses her subaccounts to vent about other holomem, so I take that as Matsuri being as stable as she can reasonably be, given the circumstances. I think her RM opening a lewd account helped create some distance between her Matsuri persona and her personal life, if that makes sense

>>88804799
Matsuri is Hoshikawa's victim
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>>88804526
Well considering that she reminds me of how I acted with women during my early twenties she probably has basically an incredibly low ego and craves attention

I like her, I do think that she's a good person on top of being a good entertainer, the right amount between funny and bratty, but she's still an gigamenhera to the core.
Well she might be better now though, idk
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>>88804665
all the shotas in a 30km radius
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>>88804899
wtf happened between Hoshikawa and Matuli? Did she get pump and dumped by Hoshi?
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>>88804940
Hoshikawa got weirded out when she realized that Matsuri's flirting wasn't a joke
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>>88804881
>Luna is doing some work yuri with a friend
>Matsuri "HOLY FUCK SHE IS SERIOUS WE ARE SO GOING TO FUCK TONIGHT"
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>>88800253
>Aruran’s cocksleeve
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>>88804879
I mean Matsuri had the door incident so...
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>>88805080
the what
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>>88800549
>probably lacks the narcissim
Matsuri has the exact opposite problem. She's extremely insecure and has very little self esteem. She very frequently falls into a mindset where she feels lonely, abandoned, and unlovable.
Hell it's obvious as hell she only started her Fantia because it's just about the only way she knows to get genuine affirmation. Almost every single time she gets really depressed and down on herself over something she posts content on it and spends the next few days stalking comments to build self esteem and feel desired. It's really toxic honestly, she honest to god needs some sort of therapy.
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>>88804988
>industry full of business yuri
>actual dyke tries to make shit happen
What is the difference between chimkin and festival? The former seems to have really hit her stride and keeps getting hookups, but the latter keeps fumbling the bag every time and looks pathetic over and over again.
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>>88805110
He's talking about ZA HANDO.
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>>88804940
Matsuri has unironically wanted to fuck Hoshikawa for years. Hoshikawa eventually noticed and started taking advantage of it, (Matsuri gave her A LOT of very expensive presents) even teasing her and jokingly offering to take things all the way. Matsuri, being a glass cannon, got cold feet and backed out but still tried to court Hoshikawa. One day, Hoshikawa canceled a last minute date with Matsuri, saying she had work to do... which turned out to be an off collab with Gundou where they ended up making out on stream

>>88805110
Matsuri’s RM was streaming (she’s a facecam streamer), and the door to her room was visible in the background. At one point, someone with a very masculine looking hand opened the door, paused when he noticed Matsuri was streaming, and then quietly closed it again. Matsuri didn’t notice at first, and when she saw the comments after the stream, she pretended to be scared and said she was going to call the cops, claiming it was someone she didn't know
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>>88805338
jesus
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>>88805262
JP people are way more reserved, and Kiara isn't an actual lesbian
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>>88805444
Is that a jesus at the Hoshikawa or ZA HANDO?
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>>88805484
ZA HANDO
male on stream = unforgivable
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>>88805338
>One day, Hoshikawa canceled a last minute date with Matsuri, saying she had work to do... which turned out to be an off collab with Gundou where they ended up making out on stream
That's heartless..
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>>88805338
>>88805314
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>>88805338
why even make shit up LMAO
it ended when they went on a date and Matsuri bought gifts to Hoshikawa, and soft confessed, then Hoshikawa did the math on her head and had to cut it out and told Matsuri she wasn't interested in that stuff and went home early, there was no taking advantage
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>>88804940
>at first Hoshikawa played into it a bit thinking it's funny and in jest
>eventually Hoshikawa realized Matsuri really is this menhera and started ghosting her since she was too polite to straight up tell her to fuck off
>during ghosting period Matsuri got more and more clingy and wouldn't let up
>a good year passes and Matsuri still obsesses over Hoshikawa
>Hoshikawa figures if ghosting doesn't work I will bully her and call her gross and stuff
>Matsuri plays into it and is seemingly okay with being called a filthy degenerate
>Hoshikawa eventually has enough and has a "date" with Matsuri
>immediately after the date Matsuri has a month long hiatus and after coming back is no longer obsessing over Hoshikawa
We don't know what exactly transpired at the end there, but it's obvious Hoshikawa had a serious talk with her and told her to stop bothering her in no uncertain terms
The thing is Matsuri is the kind of girl that has a VERY obsessive personality. She is honestly very awkward and has no self esteem, so she's extremely quick to get the wrong idea the second someone is even a little bit nice to her. Imagine a 30y old kissless virgin from here that can barely talk to women running into a girl that's nice to him once and starting to obsess over her hard, that's basically Matsuri.
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>>88805652
>there was no taking advantage
Having a simp giving you presents while you are not interested but keeping your mouth shut seems like taking advantage on someone
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>>88805697
Forgot to mention that Matsuri had beef with Haachama because chammers was an actual close friend of Hoshikawa and she was jealous
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>>88805467
>not an actual lesbian
Doesn't seem to like men much either, so are you calling her ace or something?
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>>88805697
She can still take the Lyger route
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>>88805809
nice bait, you will probably get someone
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>>88805773
I think that's more on her not wanting to start shit.
Gotta remember Matsuri's channel is a lot bigger than her's, she has serious sway even if she is an insecure menhera with body issues.
Hoshikawa also did eventually make it very clear when she realized Matsuri was getting worse and worse and not getting the hint.
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>Matsuri, sorry... but I'm not a lesbian, ok? But we can still be friends!
>Now if you excuse me, I'm meeting now with Gundou for an off collab
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>>88805314
>>88805338
Am I naive for believing the stalker claim could be true?
JP has turbo schizos so I wouldn't be surprised if someone actually did break in
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>>88805809
Kiara is bi from what I have been seeing through the years but plays lesbo because she's not collabing with men (And she won't risk losing viewers for a man).
Also she may be quite hestiant with men considering the issues with stalkers she had and the ''Asuka ring combat'' shitfest (I don't recommend you searching for it, that was quite uncomfortable even for me)
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>>88805998
>Am I naive for believing the stalker claim could be true?
In Matsuri's case? Yes, you are being naive. She wouldn’t have ignored the chat while it happened if she hadn’t known someone else was in the house. Plus, she never followed up about it, which shows she didn’t want to discuss it any further
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>>88805205
>She's extremely insecure and has very little self esteem. She very frequently falls into a mindset where she feels lonely, abandoned, and unlovable.
god I love women
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>>88806028
Most lesbians are out of a traumatic incident with men. Chimkin has had multiple traumatic incidents with men. Ergo, she will convince herself she is lesbian or develop a chikan fetish to cope. So far seems like she went with the former.
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>>88805998
The issue with the stalker claim is that she remained just fine even when people in chat were telling her about the hand
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>Matsuri was unironically in love with Shion during the legendary mario tennis arc
I wonder if she hated Marine back then
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>>88806217
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>>88806210
Playing Devil's Advocate, maybe she didn't process what actually happened until afterwards or was trying to remain calm.
Though the more I think about it, the less likely it seems.
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>>88806028
Kiara and Matuli are the only ones within Holo where their interest towards women doesn't seem to be larp to me, and Kiara was probably straight up disgusted by men after the various events she was a victim of, and turned lesbo in response
Matuli is probably too attention craved to actually care about gender, I hope she calmed down now but if not she actually needs to be in a relationship with someone that take care of her for her to be somewhat normal

From what I got she was hella fat in school, so maybe it started from that
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>>88806162
yeah sounds real nice until you start approaching and they turn you down because you are too ugly (they will still cry afterwards about being unlovable)
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>>88806278
Matsuri ALWAYS backs out when she has a real chance to score.
>Matsuri: Roboco-chan... I want to kiss you...
>Roboco: Sure, that's fine
>Matsuri: Wait, I'm talking about a real kiss, like, kissing
>Roboco: Yeah, let's do it
>Matsuri: I mean a real REAL kiss, with tongue and stuff
>Roboco: Yup, should we do it right now?
>Matsuri: M-maybe another day
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>>88806413
It's not a larp for Matuli. She said a couple times on stream that she's pan. I don't remember if those were her exact words, but I know she definitely said she's into everything.
Also remember the Choco Matuli stream where Choco had a normal heart rate while she sounded like she just ran a mile.
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She fucked a guy LIVE on stream in GTA.
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>>88806389
>Though the more I think about it, the less likely it seems.
That was my reaction when it happened, you start trying to rationalize what did just happen but after a couple of hours the most prominent thought in my mind is that she was lying. After trying to empathize if I was the one being told in a stream that there was something behind me I would fucking cry out of fear (Yes, I'm not joking, the sensation of being watched is not pleasant at all)
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>>88806604
>Also remember the Choco Matuli stream where Choco had a normal heart rate while she sounded like she just ran a mile.
wtf does this mean
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>>88806602
She always got tongue raped by Lamy one day when she got Lamy super drunk and ran away afraid.
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>>88806604
To be honest any non-faggot breathing being would have their heart running at full speed if sitting besides Choco-sen
That chick invented the word sex
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>>88806604
> but I know she definitely said she's into everything
Yeah, that was the stream where she said she wouldn't mind having a real dog as a boyfriend.
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>>88800253
Qrd? What did festival do?
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>>88806671
>Yes, I'm not joking, the sensation of being watched is not pleasant at all
I once accidentally freaked myself up in the middle of the night by mistaking a stack of cardboard boxes I had near my bed for the silhuette of a man.
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>>88806587
>implying men don't do the same thing

They don't think it be like it is but it do.
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>>88806672
Look for the Choco Matuli ASMR stream
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>>88805998
You're a perfect fit for a Matsuri fan.
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>>88806735
Proper question is what didn't she do? But dw anon, lately she's been fine lately and we are just gossiping about ancient dramas
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>>88806819
kek
anon might as well go watch shondo or filian if you are THIS naive
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>>88806729
She’s an honorary White for sure.
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>>88800253
For some reason, i think that marriage and pregnancy will unironically fix her. Like, straight up, no joke. She just needs to focus her menhera mind on someone.
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>>88806831
>we are just gossiping about ancient dramas
Come on, they are not that old
>it's almost 2025
...dear god
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>>88806675
What happened to Lamy anyhow?
She seems to be getting more and more gay out in the open and I keep hearing about her flashing her tits at the other girls or trying to get them to grab and feel up her tits now.
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>>88806587
yeah
it's over...
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>>88807017
She realized she is not getting any younger and said fuck it
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>>88806675
Funny times
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>>88806805
to be fair man have way lower standards, but it still happens if the girl is really ugly (most of the times fat)
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>>88805338
>One day, Hoshikawa canceled a last minute date with Matsuri, saying she had work to do... which turned out to be an off collab with Gundou where they ended up making out on stream
That's some S tier ntr story right here.
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>>88806671
But at the same time, should have thought maybe the chat was fucking with her. Until she realized "wait hang on, was someone actually there?" and then freaked out afterwards. Possibly adrenaline of streaming that made her not freak out immediately. Still playing devil's advocate. It's still likely it was some one night stand to be honest.
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>>88807171
*could have
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>>88807017
I love that Kanata is still denying that she is gay.
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>>88804493
>>MV about their 'friendship'
I remember that! The teetee was borderline yuri. We might never know what happened, but after the fallout Luna went to Subaru as her yuribait partner, with Choco and Botan blessings.
Man... Has been years since that time. I think it was even before HoloEn. I feel old now.
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>>88807017
She kept trying to rape Marine and it didn't work out, so she's going for whoever now. I still think drunk Lamy showing up on a random Marines stream, getting under her desk, sniff her panties and talking about the color of her panties meaning that Marines love her was one the most wild things to happen on a stream
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>>88807089
Marin and Lamy sound like they are made for each other
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Matsuri is the kind of girl who, if you end up raping her, will convince herself that it was not that bad, actually, and it's her fault. She will then proceed to somehow fall in love with you. At least, that's what i think.
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>>88807245
Kanata is such a fucking homo to the point her more asks her like once every couple a months if she's gay. She's so funny.
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>>88807429
oddly specific
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>>88807248
>Man... Has been years since that time. I think it was even before HoloEn. I feel old now.
It was around the time when Flare and Noel had a sleepover, and the next day, Noel’s RM had some sus marks on her thigh. Those were simpler times...
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>>88807478
Noel is so lucky...
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>>88800549
she just has abandonment issues
i can save her
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>>88807429
please close exhentai, it's affecting your perception of reality
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>>88807024
I will graduate myself if I don't find someone during the next ten years
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Lamy is NOT gay. It's just a phase. My dick can fix her.
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>>88807424
Lamy has tried so hard to fuck Marine is unreal and kinda sad. Marine even said it would be cool if they lived closer and that week Lamy moved right above her. She tried really hard.
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>>88807623
Lamy would be Bi anon, so you have no problem there
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>>88804453
Are sexy as fuck
>>88804526
>>88805205
Ex fatty problems
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>>88807478
I forgot who's stream it was but I remember someone said they saw the two together and were convinced it might actually be real.
I still remember Pekora asking on stream if it was actually real and they denied it in the most unconvincing way imaginable.
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Hololive needs to stop hiring girls who will fuck other girls and we could avoid these problem. Somehow they hire even more gay crazy woman as time as went on
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>>88807717
>Ex
Considering she looks really good now, makes you wonder how bad was the bullying to create such a scar in her mind
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>>88804453
If that’s your deal breaker I have bad news anon
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>>88807862
Japan is FUCKING BRUTAL against fat people. Not just in school but in general. But it's especially worse in school. So probably a deep scar.
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>>88807947
It's literally just being different at all. Noel and Lamy were both bullied for having large boobs like pretty badly and Lamy also with her voice to the point where when she first joined she did not want to sing or even use her voice.
They must be pretty fucking mean over there, I mean its bad everywhere in schools, but it seems even worst there somehow.
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>>88808088
>Bullied the girls in school for having big tits
>Are now likely depressed salarymen with a flat wife they never have sex with and likely reads/listens to NTR novels while he's away
They won
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>>88808088
I bet it's also a women thing. Everyone knows how awful the bullying and gossiping can be between women
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I love how the bait thread has become the nostalgia thread
>>88807642
Marine is a glass canon. Remember the sleepover with Shion? She was apparently frozen solid. And they still overslept.
>>88807478
Yeah... I miss those simpler times.
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>>88808486
>She was apparently frozen solid
huh?
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>>88808412
>Are now likely depressed salarymen
Anon, men would be kissing her foot to be between her massive milkers, the ones bullying her were likely women
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>>88808683
They still won but if you insist
>Bullied the girls in school for having big tits
>Are now likely a 2view at best with a shit model making a fraction of what they're making or they're in porn
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>>88807853
Sakamoto is so relatable.
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>>88808553
>>https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4064567
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>>88804780
Anyone have the clips of:
>Matsuri to Fubuki: I did get your bra off of that one time!
and:
>Matsuri talking about Fubuki: Fubuki actually has pretty big ones [IRL]!
>Luna(?): Hey... we shouldn't be talking about that! She'll get mad!
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>>88807135
>(most of the times fat)

Exactly, I've had plenty of chances to become the plapjak but nah. Can't bear the weight of the world.
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>>88808882
Chloe talking about finding a way to bottle Shions used bathwater, so she could then drink and cook with it to absorb Shion skin flakes in the water and that way Shion would be part of her and always be with her was something
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>>88809363
>These kind of women are the ones rejecting you because you are ''too weird''
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>>88808088
>that thousand yard stare
It will never stop being funny, you can see the trauma
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>>88809469
Chloe is a gay obsessive stalker lolicon siscon. You did not have a chance with this one
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>>88808480
No, Noel was bullied even worst by guys she has said. Japanize men are fucking dumb.
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LITERALLY every single aggressively horny and gay holomem is a glass canon. They will NEVER score.
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>>88809700
To be fair, Miko tried to score.
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>>88809700
Chloe isn't a glass canon at fucking all, but also she uhh has problems. Like collecting one members sued garbage to keep at her home for her shrine. No one wants to touch that
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>>88809700
>LITERALLY every single aggressively horny and gay holomem is a glass canon.
Lamy had tried countless fucking times with no luck..
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>>88809700
There's (0) chance of Marine being a virgin. If she is my mind is blown and I will kneel to yagoo and sub to every holomem
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>>88809801
Is this why Chloe is so popular with lesbians?
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>>88809881
I remember she also told her unicorns to fuck off at some point.
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>>88809874
There's a guy I know that has so much charisma and pulls in so many girls, but the moment it's about to get down to business, he falls apart completely. You'd be surprised.
Also i've seen Marine in member streams. Unless it's a LARP, she struggles to even give a small kiss for like 30 minutes even with alcohol.
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>>88809874
Marine always came off to me as one of those try hard virgins that try way to hard to know about sex when they only know about it from doujins and porn. Not saying everyone is a virgins or whatever, but she always came off this way to me
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>>88809801
Chloe will never score because her pussy smells like surströmming.
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>>88809971
She just got it lazed though!
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>>88800253
Hasn't had sex with me yet
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>>88809874
Marine is not a virgin, but she clearly doesn't have as much experience as she likes to portray
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>>88810020
That poor beauty technician.
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Noel IS a virgin. I have seen how she handles a dildo, and I can confirm she has never touched a real dick.
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>>88809881
She comes off as a massive homo and started hanging around Kanata all of the time.
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>>88810087
Bro this isn't a surprise to anyone. The woman wouldn't put a dick in her that wasn't her brothers.
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>>88809801
sakamata is bocchi
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Azki is doing her best to make Kanata finally admit that she is gay.
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Marine masturbates 5 times daily by the way
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>>88810087
>virgin
Flare's fingers and tongue have been in there for sure
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>>88810245
Kanata and Chloe should just date. They're both massive fucking homos and I think it would be good for both them unironically
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>>88810304
Wouldn't be good for Kanata's nose.
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Am I the only one who feels sad because we will NEVER know if some of the girls were really dating? Even if they graduate and go indie, the chances of them ever revealing their relationships are close to zero
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>>88810446
I am legit interested in if Coco and Kanata fucked. Looking at Coco now I'm thinking the chance of it happening is not zero.
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>>88810508
kekson has a husband no? Makes homo stuff less likely and she probably just plays that game for stream
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It's astonishing how hard NoelFlare has fallen. At one point, they were the only ship even close to OkaKoro, and now there is even people out there who don't even know they were a thing
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>>88810560
Kson had a boyfriend before joining hololive, but that was a long time ago and nowadays she spends a lot of her time fondling the boobs of her friends
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>>88810573
I wonder if Flare's harem is bigger than we think...
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>>88810560
Anon, they were living together for a good while, even after Coco's graduation, and most holomems said that they acted like a married couple. Not saying they were a thing, but the opportunity was there.
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>>88806587
nahh you just need major relationship flags even with ugly man rizz. helps having a load of confidence that it gets shared amongst her friend group.
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>>88810707
Polka and Flare are really close. If there is any real romantic relationship between holomem, it's them for sure
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>>88810446
Japanese girls casually date all the time it's not worth mentioning
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>>88810573
That may be just me, not just Noefure ship but I didn't see much of Flare herself let alone participating on big collabs or anything relevant since long ago
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>>88810446
look at this parasocial loser
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>>88810829
It seems like a genuine friendship just like with FleaRys. Honestly Flare probably dated Noel intensively in the past but now it has cooled off and they are only really really good friends (probably with occasional sex).
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>>88810951
I mean, Polka and Flare are 120% lesbian, so it's a little sus how close they are
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https://youtu.be/3Sv6PK_dRT0
lol
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>>88811038
Have they ever done offcollabs or stayed at each others houses? I know they go to eat sometimes but all holomems do that
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>>88811143
>Flare is a whore
no...
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>>88807089
That was Marine that wanted them to look at her tits because she said they're sagging.
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>>88811143
Kanata will never score.
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>>88801961
>#
go count your dick
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>>88810334
her nose/ear canals are all fucked at this point anyway
might as well jump right in
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>>88810446
It's all but confirmed that Noel and Flare are dating. The fact that they still wear those rings should tell you everything that you need to know.
>>88810573
It was a bit similar to Crossick where they didn't want to only be known for only that so it's not really on stream anymore.
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>>88810087
That confirms she's never been with a man but not that she hasn't had sex with another woman.
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>all the stories of this thread are at least 2 years old
You can tell that the girls became a lot more careful as cover got bigger
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https://youtu.be/D5ifKVEuA1k
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>>88812185
More like Cover made them be a lot more careful as more staff and regulations got involved.
It's boring now though because you'll basically never hear a story about how Shion fucked Marine and then gaslit her saying it was a dream.
Or how they have a big off collab and Noel and Flare are giving each other fuck eyes all night.
It was more fun back then.
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>>88812462
>More like Cover made them be a lot more careful as more staff and regulations got involved.
Why would they do that? It was crazy good money and marketing for cover to have them as a pair before. That would be retarded
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>>88812462
>More like Cover made them be a lot more careful as more staff and regulations got involved.
I doubt this
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>>88812462
Going back to Matuli, that may be one of the reasons why she's holding back, management is behind her neck
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>>88812566
They actually got really really mad with Matsuri when she pretended to fuck a dude in that one GTA server
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>>88812549
>>88812559
Cover went public, and investors hate scandals or anything remotely soulful. They only want corporate soulless vtubers that entertain people and swell their benefits without any risk
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>>88812694
Anon you're being fucking retarded saying this with Suisei and Miko pair shilling.
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>>88812288
>she takes it off for ASMR
Whore
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>>88812462
I mean, it’s worse for us, but separating personal and professional lives is better for them. Just look at all the Matsuri stories of this thread.
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>>88812694
To be fair, they've been public for a while. But it takes a little while for a public company to evolve and change. Hence why you didn't start seeing things change until 2022.
>>88812566
>>88812636
Funnily enough, I don't recall her having any menhera episodes after that incident.
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>>88812762
NTA but yuri baiting is not the same as Marine implying that Shion sucked her nipples while she was drunk.

>>88812885
>Funnily enough, I don't recall her having any menhera episodes after that incident.
Yeah, I think that was her turning point
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>>88812566
I wouldn't be surprised if she's one fuckup away from getting the boot.
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This happened
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I miss drunk Lamy trying to rape girls. Too bad do her health problems she can't drink really anymore
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>>88813113
didn't she just get giga drunk with Koyori like yesterday??
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>>88812854
Maybe but it can also have the opposite effect where things become too sanitized and it becomes boring and strict for everyone. There was a rawness a couple years ago that's not really there anymore. For better or worse.
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>>88813158
That's not giga drunk Lamy, That's just Lamy drinking a little
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>Aloe boasted of being able to make any girl cumming in just a couple of minutes
I hate this timeline. Imagine all the fun collabs we missed.
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>>88812762
>Suisei and Miko pair shilling.
Vanilla af ship, give me a better one anon.
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>>88813460
Well that's the point they were saying Flare and Noel were stopped cause management, but they wouldn't since it makes money ever stop it.
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>>88813546
That wasn't me, my opinion about noefure was >>88810837
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>>88813546
I think they themselves made the choice to stop it, at least on stream.
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This was a good thread, I love hololive
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>>88815245
Even though I don't really love Hololive anymore, it's rare to have a thread like this where people don't turn turbo schizo and actually have a conversation for once.
Maybe it's because we're talking about JPs and old school streams and not ENs.
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>>88800253
I feel bad that I haven't watched or seen much of her in a few years especially considering she's the reason I started watching chuuba's to begin with.
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>>88815381
It's sad to see all the schizos who've infested this place. So many don't even know about much of what's been discussed in this thread
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>>88815381
EN fanbases are full of tourists and normies, I miss old Hololive
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>>88815677
>So many don't even know about much of what's been discussed in this thread
Because that actually requires watching streams for once.
>>88815732
Maybe one day old Hololive will be back
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News: Matsuri hates Aqua
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jgQHypt0w0
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>>88809881
Yes, abuse is very popular with lesbians.
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>>88816036
>Maybe one day old Hololive will be back
That requires being niche and go private again, but even if I miss those times I'm happy that talents are having success after a long time struggling
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>>88814611
They probably chose to stop it. The risk is clippers making a thing out of it. Then your chat will be filled with EOPs repeating the same shit forever about it.
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>>88816327
My sentiments exactly. We won't get the old Holo back, but things will always change over time. As long as the girls find success and have fun, then I will keep cheering them on whatever path they take
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>>88806729
wtf matuli is canuck???
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>>88806729
I mean
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>>88810446
I personally feel that shipping vtubers as if they were merely anime characters is disrespectful, even when the vtubers themselves are playing into it, precisely because as you say, we don't know.
Talking about it /here/ is fine because the possibility of one's oshi seeing it and potentially getting hurt is 0%, but I don't think I could bring myself to e.g. attach my oshi's art tag to even slightly gay fanart, or joke about it in a comment on stream.
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>>88816991
you just know
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>>88811150
Yeah, in fact Flare was the first person Polka ever stayed over with. Polka was pretty notorious for feeling uncomfortable staying away from home overnight or eating out with people, anxiety issues and such, but Flare didn't want her to miss out on Shiraken trips, so she started inviting Polka out to eat and over to stay the night to help her get over it a bit.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzx21PJiFsc
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1p12UgMlABA
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>>88804228
i too remember it, but that was such a long time ago now so i dont know if it matters to their current dynamic. who knows what goes on behind streams. but both of them has been doing their own thing for a while now.
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>>88817975
If they don't like people talking about their canon pairings for entertainment it's their problem. They don't even own their avatars or characters. Even real celebrities don't mind fans shipping and it's a long standing culture. You have the mentality of a true beta cuck.
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>>88812636
they literally just told her to be careful, and that was just because the guy got banned
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>>88804120
Oh damn. Maybe that's why Luna also distanced herself from Aki? Since Aki seems to be good buddies with Matsuri. They used to collab a lot, and then all of a sudden they never talked to one another ever again.
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All Japanese girls are like this btw
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>>88800253
anon she tried to have SEX with GIRLS
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>>88800253
Did anyone clai otherwise?
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>>88807017
this gave me a stiffy holy shit i wanna sex wamy. the kind of girl who is kind and friendly, but then pulls something like this when you are alone. the kind that goes "ive caught you staring at my chest for a while now, are you interested? i dont mind!". FUCK that gets me.
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>>88807017
She's troublesome
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This boss is a pain in the ass by the way
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Fest is ultra cute and probably can be fixed just by being a stable boyfriend to her.

Also Noel x Fuutan? Is that still going on? Fuutan seems to be really deep in Irys these days.
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>>88806278
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>>88806675
Glass cannon festival
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>>88835611
They still wear the rings and such, so I think so? They just are more private about it
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>>88835912
Damn, I hope they deeply yuri-pleasure each other.
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Matsuri kept saying she was going to kiss her and wanted go to a love hotel with her. Aki kissed her(with tongue) and told her "ok, let's go then". Matsuri freaked out backed off and never bothered her again.

Mel and Choco pretty much did the same thing. Choco did it in the bath when she was being a brat going around kissing people and did what she called a really long "adult kiss" and she said she ran away crying.
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>>88811763
She's just like me!
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>>88835955
With all the toys and outfits she has, I'm sure they do.
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>>88800253
Is she a good girl?
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>>88841546
Yeah, also very cute. Definitely needs hard plapping. Yes, including in the butt.
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>>88800253
Doesn't she still consistently talk about wanting to make out with her blood related brother?
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>>88807862
There’s old photos out there, it’s not that bad but Japan going to Japan. She still considers herself fat now though when that body of hers is hot as fuck.
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>>88841728
There's nothing wrong with that.
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>>88810255
Noel straight up masturbates on cam but hasn’t gone further than dry humping the dildo. I doubt anything has been up there.
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>>88841892
So I should member Noel?
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>>88841892
Fuutan needs to deeply explore her.
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>>88841769
If you're not a twig there, you're considered obese
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>>88802836
Without going into details. From the beginning Luna was trying to get her relationship with Matsuri to be like her relationship with Subaru is now, yuribait. Matsuri on the other hand was actually trying to have a normal relationship for once and was treating Luna like a little sister. This caused Luna to get fed up with Matsuri and leave her.

Something else of note, Luna has a history of dropping commitments out of nowhere, this is something she has done since before she became a vtuber, in her time as a Nijisanji and even now on Hololive, she has never fixed this and people generally don't call her bullshit or know about it because she's not very popular on EN spheres.
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>>88840655
When was this? I always hope that they will stay close or friendly for a long time.
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What a nice thread, made me remember some good old fun times.
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>>88844286
If only we had more threads like this.
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We definitely need more threads discussing which JP Holomems did yurifuck each other.
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>>88844563
I tried that and it got insta-deleted
Meanwhile 10 threads about the Gura thing are allowed to stay up.
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>>88800253
I would stick my dick inside her. I know it's a bad idea. I know I'll regret it lated. But I would still do it.
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To everyone in this thread:

No, you can't fix her. You cannot do it.
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>>88844745
what is there to fix
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>>88844702
Putting your dick inside of her is ok. Cumming inside is the real bad idea.
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>>88844846
Not when it's in the butt.
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>>88844877
My semen and my love for Matsuri are powerful enough to impregnate her butt.
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>>88844846
>Implying she would give you the chance to pull out
Festival is the type of girl who would leg lock you until your balls are empty
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>>88845215
This thread has made me come to terms with my addiction to women that are bad for me and can ruin my life.
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>>88812854
Matsuri did nothing wrong
The women that she tried to get along that are all whores
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>>88816327
Fuck that, I want the old days
They were making enough even if they weren't showering in money
They had enough money so that they could dedicate full time to it
But not enough money so Ayame could waste time sucking cock and only refill ocassionaly

It was the times when we started getting the 3Ds
I want Shion's Holosummer swimsuit back and I don't fucking care if the current Cover would have to be rebuilt from scratch to get it
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>>88841728
No, that's Laplus
Matsuri wish that she somehow had an older brother to lust after (she only has a younger brother)
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>>88844846
Quite the contrary
She is the girl that you have to commit your life
If you do her for a quick fuck, she will get the wrong message and you might find her in the rope next day
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>>88802836
MY LITTLE SISTER I LOVE YOU
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>>88804453
Why is that a bad thing? All Japanese women have brown nipples. That means it's good.
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>>88816327
>That requires being niche
Gura might fuck off soon and that will finally kill western vtubing
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>>88846979
isn’t consensual incest legal in Japan?
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>>88842493
As it should be, America could learn a thing or two
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>>88848480
It's legal in a lot of places, but it's still life-ruining levels of taboo.
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>>88800253
Matuli my beloved
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>>88847028
this
while you're fucking her she'd need reassurance the entire time that you're hers and she'd ask you to say it over and over as you pound her flesh. Which is actually a fairly subtle hypnotic suggestion tactic that does work and i guarantee she'd be aware of that and try to mentally program you to see her as your owner.
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>>88848687
>Life-ruining
Only the increase is like 50% of an already existent negligible percentage of health problems
It only gets truly bad after generations of inbreeding
If you reject a hot sister then you are just a faggot
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>>88848893
H-hot!
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>>88848996
Anon, please do not fuck your sister.
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>>88849360
Too late for that
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This thread has made me extremely hard and now I NEED to breed this menhera
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>>88848996
I think anon meant life-ruining to you, not your kid
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>>88849526
Sounds like someone discovered they were gay too late
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>>88849447
It's somehow comforting that she has "channel" instead of the usual soulless "ch." after her name
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>Thread is going great for 300 replies
>An unironic inbred comes in to ruin it
At least we're at the bump limit.
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but what did she do that warranted this thread
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>>88849634
The only people that lust after their sisters are the ones that do not actually have a sister. This is just basic edgy channer behavior
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>>88849662
Say that to the mom fetishists
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Just realized that Matuli has been streaming for almost seven years holy fuck
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>>88849526
Nothing to ruin in a ruined life that needs to fuck your own sister just get some action
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Making out with Matuli's cute girlish butthole.
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She was the reason I fell in this rabbit hole back in 2018
She was the perfect mix of lewd and cute
But the management suppression on many instances recently and the earful she must have heard the incidents really took away a big part of the lewdness
It sucks desu, I want my lewd cute Matuli
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Did Matsuri do anything interesting in the GTA RP? Felt like she was a complete wallflower during that.
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>>88807566
His only mistake is thinking it's specific to matsuri rather than just normal female behavior in general.
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>>88804474
The MatsuriLuna shit is so strange to me when I think back at those clip of Matsuri breaking down in tears talking about how much she loved being friends with Luna and then thinking about how rapidly and quietly things were severed, I think it was around one of her birthdays too but that might be me misremebering.
Apparently, they're on better terms but I've never heard something that plausibly explained the transition of how they acted towards each other to Luna replacing her with Subaru and Choco.
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>>88850583
You are mixing things up Anon
They never directly talked about the falloff

You are probably mixing it with the rejection Matsuri got from Hoshikawa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm6SUmOSqx4
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When will Matuli finally fully show tits on F...? And more?
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>>88850833
She has gotten really close a few times, so it's just question of time if she decides to graduate.
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>>88802663
a good Jap one could also do that.
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>>88851192
Okay damn, I just saw the newest video. Really nice,
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>>88852022
...do you mind helping a brother?
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Link me the irl matsuri nsfw
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holy fuck i just came, they LOOK SO SOFT
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Thank you friend
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that was already hotter than what noel did since the succubus stream



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