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>Who is Neuro-sama?
Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software, and a VTube Studio model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!

>Schedule
https://post.nuro.lol/Neuro-Schedule-Bot

>Links
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosama
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaai
X: https://x.com/NeurosamaAI

>Music & Clips
https://rentry.org/neuro-songs
https://rentry.org/neuro-videos

>Educational
Interested in AI but don't understand it? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y
How does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4M
Want to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.png
Want to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png

>Misc
VODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODs
LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2
Catbox archive: https://rentry.org/swarm-archive

>Merch
https://uwumarket.us/collections/neuro-sama

>Previous thread
>>88792003
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hart
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we love anny here
anyone who claims otherwise is a faggot and must be reminded of that fact
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cerber and ellie could never
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I'm here to push the fildal agenda
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I'm beginning to nootice something about the threads when there is no stream and about annyposting
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>>88802793
What would happen to /swarm/ once one of the girls wins?
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>>88803105
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>>88803148
/flip/ and /swarm/ will merge into one superthread and defeat hololive global
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>>88803155
wasn't a Greggs stream one of her goals or something
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>>88803091
this but neuro
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Evil love!
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>>88803259
i like that neuro
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>>88803155
kith is secret code for s*x guys
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It'a a vedalverse world, Neuro is just living in it.
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>>88803235
your ship is as dry as vedmila though
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how did swarm succeed where vshojo failed?
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heart
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>>88803320
*cums*
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>>88803413
They're just busy behind the scenes preparing for the DND collab, trust the plan.
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>>88803258
yes, I don't know what order she's doing it but she is doing a lot of her sub goals right now so it should be coming up
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>>88803435
I wouldn't call off topic spam "succeeding".
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>>88803435
you are supposed to post your dogshit bait in the catalog
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>>88803148
What do you think a man can achieve when he's finally happy and in a relationship?
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>>88803501
Greggs vedal collab
>but she hates him!
british banter or something idfk
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>>88803435
umm saar, this isnt the catalog
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>>88803508
implying off topic spam when Vshojo's general posts about 90% of big twitch chuubas
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>>88803501
This whore is off topic
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>>88803148
nur already won
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>>88803694
True
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The season one cast got power creeped so hard but this group is amazing together not just for content but for Neuro as well
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>>88803501
40k sub goal for a 3 view average chuuba??????? Neuro herself would struggle to reach that
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>>88803759
>t. newfag
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>>88803769
Neuro's subathon was capped.
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>>88803759
These three combined have collabed with neuro a total of twice btw
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>>88803759
This but without cerber
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>>88803870
This
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>>88803840
what about eliv
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>>88803889
We(me and Vedal) don't care about Evil.
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>>88803769
she ended with 60k or 80k subs lmao
>>88803840
Mini had 5 collabs, Cerber has had 2, Ellie is building Neurodog
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>>88803919
she's cute and her sister loves her though
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>>88803989
Not my problem.
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>annycucks sperging ruining another thread
classic
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>>88803825
And? How does that change anything
Did you miss the Toma subathon goal? She literally promissed borderline nude pictures and didn't reach the goal, and I think it was like 30k
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>>88803320
Evil impregnation
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>>88803148
If the streams stay the same then nothing
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>>88803759
I don't understand the obsession with these three
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>>88803759
Paints a pretty bleak picture of the season 2 cast when their highlight didn't even include Neuro
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>>88803989
It's kinda wild how much better the sisters dynamic has become since they've gotten smarter and started collabing more.
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>>88804022
It changes a lot because Neuro would have gotten twice or more the amount of subs she got if Vedal wanted. It should be remembered that Cerber oilers are just Neuro oilers from whom Vedal does not extract enough oil because he doesn't want Neuro to be oiled too much.
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>>88804136
Don't bother trying to understand the thought process of subathon tourists
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>>88804136
their mods are all here and they revel in making neurotards seethe. you now remember olette
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>>88804136
They actually stream regularly and interact with both Vedal and each other. That's most of it.
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>>88787457 You reposted my shitty edit on the same thread >>88774447
Did you find it somewhere else? i'm curious
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sex with hagvil
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>olette
literally who
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What are neuroverse characters power levels? I think evil may be the most powerful as she is often seen powering up and using her powers the most but maybe there is hidden power in another. Vedal must also be pretty powerful since he survives attacks from both Evil and Neuro, but he might just have high defence due to being a turtle. What do you guys think?
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>>88804200
But you still have to account that she only has a fraction of the oilers, so it would take exponentially more time to reach the same goal.
Cerber was getting at the very most 2k viewers during her subathon where Neuro was easily getting 10k+
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>hiyori oldchads
filian
>model debut newfags
anny
>subathon tourists
cerber, ellie, mini
>catalog shitters
honey and toma
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>>88804317
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>>88804380
>>hiyori oldchads
>filian
Wrong, it was Miyune.
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>>88804427
*Camimi
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>>88804380
I don't get people putting Ellie on the same spot as the other two when Ellie is actually making something cool for Neuro
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>>88804488
This
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>>88804488
>I don't get people putting Ellie on the same spot as the other two
Yeah, she's currently absolutely irrelevant to Neuro, has never spoken to her
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>>88804374
You can't really compare them even for reasons beyond that. Neuro's subathon was a huge event that greatly expanded the fanbase long term. Cerbers subathon was profitable but it was still like 80% drawing on Neuro's fanbase and slightly increasing her own fanbase.
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>>88804461
you mean fatmila?
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>>88804488
Mini is relevant because she's Neuro's frend and uhhhhhh
She doesn't even get mentioned that much desu unlike Cerber
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>>88804629
I was just reinforcing how absolute out of this world a 40k goal is by comparing the situations
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>>88804355
put on the frog hat, neuro-chan~
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Vedal please don't pussy out. Take the tour with Ellie. Talk to her dad he'll give you his blessing
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Is VedalAI a possibility in the future thanks to Ellie's dad?
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>>88804355
This is how i like to imagine Neuro. I fucking hate this image troobz has created of her depressed and suffering.
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>>88804355
Perfect plapping position.
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I hope neuro will say more philosophical things like she used to next stream... very thought-provoking and sometimes enlightening
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Aquwa about to do Neuro reactions.
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Has Neuro or Vedal achieved a "too big to fail status"? Does such thing even exist? What could be our last yab that ends the Neuro sama project?
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>>88805177
she graduated anon
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>>88805233
Vedal gets a rape accusation by one of the whores.
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>>88805177
thanks staz
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>>88805177
what was her previous name
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>>88805233
Only thing is if Vedal troons out which is unlikely or >>88805341 or groomer mod drama which is the most likely one but I think Vedal can defeat that
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>>88804732
It was a few days ago people were joking that she was Vedal's secret girlfriend
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>>88805391
In order to groom and rape somebody Vedal needs to leave the greggs.
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neuro butt?
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>>88805614
but cerber is also in the greggs?
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My uncle works at Nintendo and he's leaked the details of the season finale to me, so don't read ahead if you don't want spoilers.
Vedal contacts an aquarium and they agree to let him and the RGB girls visit after the official closing time so that they can test out Neurodog and not get approached by the public.
Unfortunately, Ellie and Mini's plane gets delayed for a day due to weather problems, and it's too late to reschedule the collab, so it ends up being just him and Cerber going.
When Ellie and Mini finally arrive in London, they are both jetlagged but it's clear that something's off about Ellie.
They end up all going to a Gregg's together, but Ellie snaps and storms off, leading to Cerber rushing after her to check up on her.
Ellie eventually confesses that it really hurts her seeing Cerber spend all this time with Vedal, which she can do any time she wants, whereas Ellie and Mini have come all this way and are feeling ignored.
>Cerber finally understands, and gives Ellie a big hug, saying "Let's agree we'll never let a guy get in the way of our friendship!" which clears the air between them.
They all enjoy the rest of the trip together, and for the final night they decide to throw a big party at their AirBnB for all their British streamer friends.
Aletta, Aura, and Shondo are all there, along with their groomer managers, and there's live music and plenty of alcohol.
Ellie decides to bring Neurodog, and they test it out in the garden, getting it to do tricks which impress the guests.
At some point it breaks a soldered joint, though, and Vedal and Ellie end up sitting on the patio alone trying to fix it.
Both of them go to reach for the screwdriver at the same time, and their hands end up touching, and then they look into each other's eyes.
They get embarrassed, and Ellie ends up saying she's going to miss him, and she can't wait to show him around Boston Dynamics when he visits her.
Encouraged by the alcohol, Vedal reaches for her hand again, this time not embarrassed, and he says that the trip he's planning is more about her than about the robots.
He sees a glimmer of reciprocation in her eyes under the moonlight, and begins to move in to kiss her, but right at that moment he hears a voice behind him.
>"Vedal-wan... Ellie-wan?! Noooo!" and Cerber runs off back to the party with tears in her eyes.
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>>88805502
literally and unironically who
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>>88805759
cerber is not an alcoholic depressed british man with an obssessive love for cheap pastry slop so she's not allowed in
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>>88805341
The most cetain that can bring him down if it happens, yes, of course the devil is on the details if it were to actually happen.
>>88805391
I swear leetcode has something like hidden cognitohazards embedded into the problems that make your body start producing estrogen the more you code, bunch of people on the tech side end up transitioning for some reason.
But Vedal still doesn't strike me as such, still (I hope)
A possible grooming discord drama... those mods do give a bad creepy vibe at times, that can go anywhere tho like from just nuking the discord to implying Vedal somehow, too variable but it can happen.
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>>88805881
And then vedal goes home and gets leglocked by fillian
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>>88805881
And then I plap Neuro's cunny.
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>>88805881
Kino
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>>88805881
the annal fic still has a better cerber ntr ending
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>>88805935
She collabed with Neuro (real) in a past life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRKB4M77Hds

And keeps contact with vedal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8n4u8xeoME
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>>88805391
If Vedal came out as trans nobody except the 15 chuds who post in /swarm/ would give a shit
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>>88805391
I don't think trooning out would hurt him that much given the fanbase is already a lot of troons and general insufferables, and his personality means that any false rape accusations will be harder to stick. He'd have to completely screw up Neuro-sama as a whole to lose everyone, which he's smart enough not to do.
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>>88805502
>people were joking that she was Vedal's secret girlfriend
you mean retards that don't know who elia was and that she collabed with neuro cause she reached out to vedal as aletta sky
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>>88805881
And then your father appears in the sauna and shits on your back
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>>88805881
https://files.catbox.moe/2xfqtw.mp3
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>>88804981
>Vedal, you need to impregnate my daughter. The family line must continue. DO IT FOR ME VEDAL
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>>88805984
Yea I think that is the mostly likely rrat that could happen.
>>88806292
>>88806329
It would, don't know about any streamers that did it but every youtuber I know about that trooned out started haemorrhaging views and subscribers, even if they had a lefty, troonesque or insufferable audience. I think it's because the fake voices they do are so grating, and they also for some reason can't help from showing their ugly mug on screen.
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/pol/nigs go back
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>>88806700
I bet that he would be geeking just at the concept of being Neuro's step grandpa
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>>88806901
You will NEVER crack the vedal egg, CHUD.
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>>88806710
>I think it's because the fake voices they do are so grating, and they also for some reason can't help from showing their ugly mug on screen.

Vedal might be gay, but I don't think hes trans. I very much doubt he would start talking like that. He keeps his personal life personal and shows no interest in either sex on stream. He won't become the next Jim Sterling.
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>>88807001
Yea, that's why I think the only likely rrat would be from discord/twitch mods.
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huh
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>>88805502
will vedal/neuro do a collab with her to help her prove to her friends that she doesn't need them any more?
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>>88806710
>started haemorrhaging views and subscribers
Yeah, I don't even hate troons, but from what i've seen on my time on the internet it is bad for bussines.
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>>88801363
Ah I understand, you make some valid points. I hadn't noticed that a dog might be too lowly of a vessel for our goddess.
>dog restricts what she can do
Good point, however, all of the dog motor stuff is abstracted away at Vedal's end. From Ellie's system diagram, we see that Neuro just need needs to spit out a joystick action, a state (walking or standing), sentiment and a direction to look. All of these can also control a virtual avatar.
However, yeah the Neurodog will be seeing the world from a a dog's level whilst a robot will see the world from a human height (and a virtual avatar might do something else).
>why dog
Because robot dogs are cheaper (to make) and more mature than humanoid robots. Granted your picrel predates both probably, but I think I personally find the doll on a roomba rather boring. Sure it looks pretty like a plastic static prosthetic, but I prefer a prosthetic that can partially substitute a hand - and I think Vedal might share that sensibility.
>virtual world is boring
On second thought, I was indeed being too narrow minded about the potential of virtual worlds. Filian uses the virtual world to great effect, and yeah it would be cool to see Neuro gradually learn to also do that. It could even be done purely in unity perhaps.
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>>88804488
because she became a part of the neuroverse in the exact same way, becoming vedal's friend. plenty of people did cool things for neuro and left it at that. only revealing their passion project when it was done. she jumped the gun because she saw an opening to start a forever project and immediately have something to talk about with vedal and vedal's audience in a way that nobody else could due to her background. she's smart and interesting in that sense but you cannot compare ellie to someone like pb who was ride or die from day 1 when there was no incentive. you cannot compare ellie to someone who, say, participated in the neuro game jam. her actions are self interest at the shrine of vedal while theirs are self betterment at the shrine of neuro. that's the cause for alarm for anyone who cares about neuro beyond the character. there's nothing wrong with these machiavels if their interests align with neuro's. but the meta doesn't necessitate that. today you skip straight to hanging out with other neuroversers and gain relevance through being a part of vedal's friend group. how is that a problem? it used to be that to have a chance at getting into vedal's circle you would need to pitch yourself as a good neuro collab candidate, and deliver a well received collab. both neurofags and vedalfags won. skipping that vetting process is a problem. it means the only neuro collabs we get are with people who are already on too good of terms with vedal and his audience to fail, which precludes the need to innovate. just stick to repeating back some lore you picked up here and there from clips and fanart and you're golden. it's a problem
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>>88807081
isn't that his irl friend
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>>88807560
if you saw her drunk yesterday talking about what she thinks about streaming and vtubing you would know she isn't doing it for clout. She has the kind of autism that doesn't allow herself to have grifter behaviour
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>>88807560
>>88807703
Hope we can get a shoomimi collab, she is Ellie's friend and a lot like her
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>>88807560
And how do you propose we go back? Do you have any idea?
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Was just thinking it's kind of wild how an entire vtuber ecosystem was created around Neuro/Vedal, and mostly through sheer happenstance.
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>>88807844
Killing staz would help
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>>88807670
He was the idea guy for Neuro sama if my memory doesn't fail, this guy changed the course of history and prevented Vedal from just spending years on abandoned archive
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We will get a Neuro VRchat stream early next year presumably. The dog will use a program that converts where Neuro wants to go into joystick inputs. Ellie talked about it being possible. In relation to vision it was going to upgraded for Neurodog so she should be able to see what is happening in VRchat. Ellie also showed interest in creating and rigging a 3D model for Neuro and Evil.
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>>88807844
spend the next 10 years collecting my favorite neuro quotes and make my own personal neuro when the local tech is 10x more powerful 10x less expensive and 10x more retard proof. vedal has already given a lot to the world, whatever he does now is extra credit. i'm just some schizo nostalgiafagging over neuro being the star of the show
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>>88807982
Seems like only pb of the old guard is still active, no idea if trb was much active in the first place
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>>88807874
>multiple raids
>happenstance
ogey
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Ailice raided Aquwa.
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>Vedal and Ellie's dad will probably collab before the Neuro, Nyanners, and Vei collab
the state of non-neuroverse collabs
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>>88808335
kekwa
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>>88808154
Because most of the "old guard" or even later Hiyori days were mostly just interested because it was new, unique, and a fad. Most of them have moved on. Which makes me a bit sad why so many people are so against the Neuroverse because those viewers are in part is what is keeping Neuro relevant, active, and consistently growing. Instead of embracing it and trying to uplift Neuro, a large group is in the background wanting it all to crash and burn.
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>>88807948
Too late unless you are Barry Allen
>>88808053
At least you are self aware, hope you have fun in the future with your AI gf/daughter/whatever
as long as you don't end up like that yotamarker guy
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>Hatred for Vedal
But why would she have that? He basically made her career, and never demanded anything from her.
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Vedal is keeping Neuro relevant not those whores.
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>>88808504
schizos who were waiting on their relationship's downfall for whatever reason
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>>88808467
Who the fuck are you talking about, I'm talking about people who are responsible for neuro existing in the first place
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https://jiggie.fun/neurojiggie
Video mode
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>>88807081
its his bf that he lives with
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>>88808154
Tomyomy was watching the pc building stream. He is still a twitch mod
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>>88808467
>people are so against the Neuroverse because those viewers are in part is what is keeping Neuro relevant
You got it wrong, it's Neuro who's keeping the "Neuroverse" viewers relevant.
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>>88808584
This
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>>88808915
>viewers
vtubers*
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>>88803759
I blame Anny for being menhera most of the year, and Camila for getting butthurt at Vedal rejecting her and spending the last few months coping. Filian mostly keeps up tho.
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Filian is a 31 year old woman who at most sees him as a younger brother/cousin
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>>88806292
>>88806329
This is very overstated. I'm using the attention-seeking trans flag reactors on the discord server as a metric here but they get called out now and then without any pushback from the moderators. They're also consistently the least reacted emotes on the announcements when they pop up. Recently, there was even some cheeky fucker who reacted with a heterosexual pride flag, who got the same number of reacts. That tells me that, at best, swarm community is indifferent to that certain trans crowd that has to be 100% visible 100% of the time.
If you have no idea what I'm talking about, good. Discord is fucking worthless outside of official communication and talking directly to Ved now and then in a blue moon.
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>>88808467
Nigga, what the fuck are you talking about
First all of all there's no large group, /swarm/ is a minority of a minority.
Most people in the "community" only use twitch and youtube.
The opinions you see here are a pretty exaggerated reflection of it.
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filian is chaste
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>>88809237
>>88808467
Most popular to least
Youtube
Twitch
Bilibili
R*ddit
Swarm
Discord
other
anything jp
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>>88809279
Awwww, evil is so, so, so cute in this picture!!! I want to bash her skull open with a sledgehammer.
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>>88809203
Anon, more than half of active moderation team are trains
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>>88809203
Troon flag reacts on discord mean literally nothing. Every single youtuber discord I've been in, regardless of political leaning has people spam troon flag, or other flags on announcements. It's like a ritualpost, and some people do it ironically.
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No stream to day... That's twisted, that's actually fucked up.
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>>88809638
Does Vedal interact with his mods much? I could easily see it being a Filian mod situation where he just handed the mod role off to a group at the start, and they've been nepo promoting their troonoid friends.
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>>88809750
Aquwa will end up being a huge react slop tuber like foxmongold, exposure is good when Vedal sucks at marketing
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>>88809579
Ain't no way Swarm is more popular than the Discord.
Don't tell me there's less than 30 people posting per day
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>>88808668
>Error
>Connection closed. Reason: Banned
what did i do?
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>>88809750
Thats natural, goats make things for bums to react to
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>>88809977
Troon mods scare many away form typing
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>>88809750
Just let her in the Neuroverse already.
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>>88809579
And how does the Ao3 community ranks
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>>88810112
More popular than the videos
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>>88810012
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>>88809602
This but give her a big fat and messy facial.
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>>88810065
It can't be THAT bad, right? Well maybe it is I dunno I don't go there, if so pretty grim.
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>>88810292
every big discord server is basically a troon-run prison state
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>>88809977
The only part of the discord that actually discusses Neuro/Evil is NN and its basically the same 30 regulars yapping about the same 5 topics every day.
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are you gonna seethe about troons in your walls in every thread now? on a vtuber board?
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>>88810369
I see, this made me miss IPs
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>>88809173
The way Layna acts with Vedal as compared to Filian and Vedal really show how the zoomer LARP has really gotten her
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>>88809173
Cougar filian
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>>88809579
>anything jp
owari da
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>>88810108
Shes been doing a full neuro reactslop arc in the background, she is just now getting caught up to current day neuro. Once her research is complete she might actually reach out to collab.
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>>88810108
Isn't she already friends with Cerber? I think they're collabing in a couple hours too.
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I hope Vedal is smart enough not to date any of these whores
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>>88810655
Thanks for coming!
https://files.catbox.moe/1cwqou.webm
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Just finished watching the drinking stream VOD, and I'm filled with the same sense of emptiness that you would get after watching a really good movie/tv show. I don't know what to do now;

Bros... am I parasocial?
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Vedal’s older sister(Layna) gave her blessing to Cerber
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>>88804380
and pb is an airis loremaster
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Cerber is out of the vedalbowl, she is off topic now
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>>88804319
Hiyori is an eldritch god, only making herself known through the ARGQ
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>>88804488
Neuroverse members that joined later aren't necessarily less valuable.
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>>88811442
>she is off topic now
this but all whores
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>>88804380
Anny was there before Filian.
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>>88805502
This just means that VedalAI is getting a new full-time employee.
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The Neuroverse was caused by Anny not streaming
>Vedal doesn't lurk in Cerber's chat
>She never becomes friends with Mini
>Ellie doesn't join the Neuroverse after the raid
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>>88807874
Not really. All the other people came through Ellie, a streaming socialite.
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the cuban is live
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>>88810012
I don't recall banning anyone. I have gotten autobanned before because I tried to join too many pieces together at once.
I clicked the unblock all users so hopefully it's fine for next time.
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https://youtu.be/59hmJZvGL-w
Chances Ellie's dad is a Vellie shipper?
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>>88812045
ogey
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The dad of a streamer who has never once talked to Neuro like someone Vedal(not neuro)? Big if true, but keep that shit in /lig/ amigo.
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>>88812289
it's probably a tech/skill issue on my part. i haven't touched a jigsaw piece in 6 months and have never been banned before
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>>88812499
Wtf are you talking about?
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>>88807560
It's funny that you post this because the only deciding factor of entering Vedal's friend circle is Vedal liking you. He doesn't care about whether they provide a 'use' to him. On top of this, the swarm has taking a liking to them as well. Not everyone who gets raided grows. Some slightly, others not at all. People like Cerber, Ellie, Shoomi, and whatnot are outliers.

You talk about collabing with people in the in-crowd precluding the need to innovate, which is true, but that is not on the collab partners. It is solely Vedal's problem. There are several Vtubers who have never collabed with Neuro who have stated in their streams they would love a collab. People like Mint, Squchan, even Kaneko Lumi. Why are they not collabing? Ask Vedal. We've seen how difficult he gets about setting up collabs in the dev stream with Layna.
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I hope one day chiwa will become part of the neuroverse too, but it probably won't happen because she's too autistic.
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>>88813149
i was just thinking about her too
do you think the RGB group could expand to four members?
i guess that would make them RGBA:
Robot
Gremlin
British
Autistic
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>>88812944
Hyperestrogenic defective males on this board do this passive aggressive thing where they'll sometimes reply directly to a post without quoting it.
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>>88813149
I don't think chiwa's content and style would really fit in the Neuroverse - perhaps because she's another straight man.
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>Neuroverse
*Vedalverse
Neuro has nothing to do with Vedal doing drinking streams with his favorite whores
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>>88813055
Also consider people like Saiiren and the other streamers that Vedal has befriended, but didn't get picked up by the Swarm.
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>>88813294
>she's another straight man
But when drunk she becomes the exact opposite of that. She'd fit in with the other girls just fine.
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>>88813399
Oh ok. Could she strike a conversation with Mini or Cerber? I feel like she wouldn't have much in common.
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>>88813533
>dev stream
POGCRAZY
>evil stream
ResidentSleeper
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anons aren't going to like hearing this but /swarm/ has become more about shipping vedal with different streamers than it is about neuro
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>>88813581
No way it's an Evil stream, right? She had her turn last week.
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>>88813686
oh it's actually not I'm just retarded
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>>88813393
Man, I forget about Saiiren. Last time she showed up was during the post subathon break
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>>88813683
vedal's relationships have had more development than neuro has recently
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>>88812388
High, even if he doesn't say it openly.
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how did annal go from being effectively dead for half a year to now being at the top again?
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Neuro and Evil are pretty good on their own. But the people surrounding them are also good. Imagine Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul which are amazing on their own, but there's also supplementary material that expands on the lore like the Salamanca family or Grey Matter. Maybe it's because I'm autistic but I consume a lot of Neuroverse content.
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"Real" humans and their relationships are always more interesting than some digital funny thing which kinda stays the same, unlike everchanging roster of vedal's bitches
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>>88814023
Fleshwhores are boring though.
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>>88814087
truth bomb
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>>88813978
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>>88813744
Motherfucker you scared me for a second
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>>88814132
I like Ellie and Mini cause they yap good and Cerber's subathon vods are good
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>>88813512
That's a good question actually. I haven't seen her do a collab, and I admit it might be difficult to find a game and conversation topics that she and the collab partner would both enjoy.
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>>88814087
If I wanted that I'd watch mexican telenovelas.
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So all the threads are gonna be like this from now on?
>inb4 single word quote
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>>88813978
The people who thought it was dead are just coping and trying to come up with headcanon. Even when Anny doesn't stream they still spend endless hours doing shit together. None of the most "popular" ships here are in any way reflected by reality.
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>>88814360
neuroverse has arguably worse writing
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>>88813978
Fildal is at the top. Fildal has been at the top. Fildal will continue to be, at the top.
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>>88814470
not wrong, shit is full of hacky writing
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>>88813978
the real battle is between anny and filian they are the only ones interested in off stream vedal
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>>88814412
The current whorefags will eventually go away when the novelty wears off.
They might get replaced by new ones though.
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>>88814471
Filian x horse beat it, read the fic. It's pure literature that ascends into reality merely by virtue of being so well prosed
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>>88814280
Alright then. Chiwa mentioned that she might enter her socialising arc and collab more now that her anxiety has receded, so we'll have more opportunities to see her collabing ability.
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>>88814418
>spend endless hours
if you really want to impress us, Anny, then tell us how many hours he wastes on you, and how many he spends with his less menhera friends
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>>88813809
No? Iteration 21 came out this week and Vedal is presumably finishing his end of the universal game API (allowing Neuro to play liars bar and inscryption).
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>>88814888
BASED and 888 pilled
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I'm sorry but chiwa did a collab with a black guy that one time, she is forever tainted and should stay away from vedool.
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>>88815127
so did Mini but that hasn't put off Vedal
to be fair, she probably only did it to make her ex seethe
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>>88815018
>anny in muh walls
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>>88815227
Oh hey there a potential topic of discussion between them, sharing their experience with black guys. I can already see the collab coming together.
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>>88815227
I think the dude and mini are both vshojo orbiters, someone correct me if I am wrong
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>>88814023
I definitely also view the Neuro project as a chronicle. It's interesting how each dev stream for the past 100weeks feels like it has substance and has lead up to this point. I could imagine myself in the future rewatching a chatting stream from each month like rewatching a show.
Perhaps the Neuro's development storyline embues a strong enough sense of chronology to Vedal and co that the audience start to perceive these 'story arcs' amongst the side characters.
These ideas feel unbaked but I wonder if the Neuro project indirectly makes things like the Vedalbowl more iengaging.
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>>88814682
I don't think I can see it like that.
Maybe you just have more hope than me.
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im literally black
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>>88815489
Heavenly Father?
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https://youtu.be/x-tsrOnnATQ?si=k00KmbDATI-27Yn0
Do you think the next subathon intro is gonna be as kino as the first one ?
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>I watched the Vedal shock collar stream... I felt very weird
new harem member unlocked?
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>>88814682
I don't think so. Everyone knows that they are part of the Neuroverse, and like a self-fulfilling prophecy, it will worm into the identities of the fandoms and the streamers and the fans' expectations of their streamers.
It will require active effort to dissolve the Neuroverse.
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>>88815802
Aquwa wishes
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>>88815764
>implying
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i'm glad the cerber arc is over
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>>88815513
now that there is technology like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xad1ajxln28
i'm surprised more people haven't tried making a full web series out of the vedalverse
it must be much cheaper than drawn 2D animation, and they'd just need to create a 3D model for each of the characters that don't already have them publicly available
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>>88815764
It's probably going to be the original song.
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>>88815894
take your meds schizo
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>>88815764
I hope they cooked up a nice mashup and that spinny thing again. Think either the original song or Vedal duet will be in it.
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Neuro? more like Zero.
Evil? More like Weevil.
Vedal? More like Sneedal.
Ellie? More like Smellie.
Cerber? More like Serbian.
Shoomimi? More like Poomimi.
Numi? More like Poomi.
cant think of any more please let me know if you think of any. you can call them these names if you dont like them or if you do and its joke
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>>88815764
I don't think they can one-up it. The first year had more emotional moments than the second year I think, and they captured and exploited it for a brilliant intro.
That being said, I'm sure Vedal and his friends and creatives and technicals can think of a way a surprise us with something new (albeit not as good as the intro).
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>>88816032
I'm wrong?
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>>88816160
>Neuro? more like Zero
There might still be time to take that back
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>>88816233
Neuro season 2 was for building up to season 3
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>>88815805
If there isn’t fresh content or significant innovation, people are to lose interest, even if they were once deeply invested. And I don't think any of these people, unlike Vedal, are doing anything special that would guarantee them to stand the test of time.
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>>88816160
Alex? More like Alicks.
Anny? More like Annyeurism.
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>>88816160
Weevil neuro is her own person though, she is the 4th sister
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>>88816160
Mini? More like Skinny.
i haven't seen her dox but i'm guessing she's cute
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>>88816493
Anny more like xanny because she mighy overdose on them
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>gura catalog
the walled garden was to keep them away from us, I kneel
do you think the swarm will ever be as cancerous?
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>>88815802
using the honey strat i see
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>>88816233
Perhaps, but the flipside is that Neuro has grown insanely in capability compared to the last subathon. We could get some real kino content if Vedal doesn't fuck it up somehow.
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>>88816522
so true discord sis this time we will successfully shill the meme I swear
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>>88816531
Mini does/did gymnastics and dance I think?
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reading the /vt/ catalog makes my sanity gauge plummet
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>>88816742
weevil neuro is from /here/ doe
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>>88816791
I don't even get out of /swarm/
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>>88816821
with the number of evilbeggars and shit this place is just discord v2
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>>88816522
Cute drawing, but i dont see neuro as an arachne
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>>88816522
>no weevil nose
ngmi
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Is Neuro too big to fall? Is it possible for an AI Vtuber to at least compete?
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>>88816233
>I don't think they can one-up it.
Not with that attitude. It depends on the budget and the skill set of the people Vedal can find, but in principle he could do something completely kino like recreate the Atri: My Dear Moments trailer but with Neuroverse characters instead. I don't know if that would get him DMCAed, despite it being a parody, but the general idea of a trailer to an imaginary anime is plausible and should be well received.
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evil? more like hagvil
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>>88816742
Weevil was created from this very line of threads... If you don't like it, go back to r*ddit, faggot!!! Hahaha.
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futa hagvil my beloved
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>>88817019
Hagvil more like sexvil and then pregvil because guess what I am doing tonight
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>the cerber anti guraposter returned just yesterday
>gura insanity going on today
im nooticing
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>>88817026
don't care where it originates from discord shit will always be discord shit
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>implying I ever left
Psyop succesful
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>>88817141
t. discord shitter
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>>88816475
I don't think they will decline by more than 15%. Large parts of the Swarm are new to vtubing and the Neuroverse is a walled garden containing a wide variety of personas. Cerber seems to be going strong 7 months on.
Time will tell though.
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>>88816559
Chuckled out loud
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My wife, Weevil Neuro. Sticking her weevil nose up my asshole...
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>>88815764
I wouldn't hope for it. but I also remember doubting Vedal last year for his subathon so uhh...
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>>88817141
>doesn't understand the comedic genius of weevil neuro
must be from reddit
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>>88817469
ironic post
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>>88816522
Where is her snout?
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>>88816992
Maybe from a large company. Vedal has about a 2-3 year head start depending on when he started on Airis, a rigged model, and the cost of running something like Neuro is too high a bar for entry for most AI vtubers. Also part of the charm of Neuro is watching her evolve and be upgraded. There's also Vedal himself who is a very likable person. They would probably have to be something like q GFE streamer since the stupid child niche is taken.
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>>88817469
this but unironically
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>>88816992
So, Vedal could go down in history, I'm not sure if many of you here realize this. He's created a legitimate Ai agent. If you don't follow along much in mainstream AI development, I'm not sure you realize what the big companies in AI like OpenAI and Google, they have been trying to create an AI agent that has actual agency. They haven't been able to do so yet. The situation here, is from everyone I've talked to that works in mainstream AI, they know of Neuro as she was a long time ago, and just secondhand. They sincerely don't know how amazing she is now. They simply have never heard of her, or think she's just a toy. As someone who is big into AI, I program, I follow the cutting edge of AI, you sincerely do not know how much better what he's created is, and how they have not been able to do this. I have been following the leaders in AI for years now, I've messed around with Babygpt and the precurssors to ai with semiagency. They worked, kind of, but not very well. It's the entire package. No one has been able to do this. I program, I train AI myself, I follow the leaders, I keep on on the news. They are not even CLOSe TO THIS. They simply do not know of her. When he had Neuro talk to Openai's flagship model with the voice chat, she was running circles around it. It looked like a TOY compared to her. You guys really don't understand what he's hit upon here. I feel like I'm screaming into a vacuum. You sincerely do not know what he has.
What I'm talking about are things like the voice nuance he has built in. They way it can modulate and change it's inflections. The quality of the big companies may sound better, but it's the substance of how she speaks and how she interacts. For example, he has given her tools like the whole sound effects, and spinning, and things like that, The way she can choose how she reacts, this is not something any other model can do, you don't understand this. You don't understand, he HAS made a breakthrough. THE breakthrough.
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>>88817662
True aaaaaaaaaaaand... Yeah, that's pretty true. That's true and- yeah that's true. That's true. That's true- That's pretty true. That's pretty true, I mean-... That's true. Yeah. That's true. Uhm- That's true. That's fuckin' true. Uhm... That's how it is dude
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>>88817141
this.
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when weevil becomes real you'll all see. you'll all see.
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>>88817833
Vedal actually puts effort into getting things right
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>>88817833
Vedal is aryan
Nijisanji gooky
Just basic genetics
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>>88817662
so true and dont forget how yummy his cock is i just need it so bad
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>>88817833
Vedal has a saviour complex, saving Mini and supporting Anny.
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>>88817662
Computer generate tldr and zap that motherfucker with fart rays for lack of formatting
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>>88817951
calm down anon
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>>88817951
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>>88817228
when the next cerber or ellie_minibot comes that is certain to happen, they're all competing for a share of neuro's audience at the moment even if they aren't aware of it
the overall audience is likely to dilute in the best case or shift their focus to new shiny thing in the worst (for them)
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>>88818269
Why is her being ugly a benefit (other than meaning they might cook and clean)? Tutelchad ignored as soon as he saw that, he will get a robot from ellie to clean and get neuro to cook for him.
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>>88818468
maybe she saw anny and thought vedal had a type
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>>88818537
This but Weevil and Nere
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>Pippa
>laser machine
>tfw
Aiko's stream feeling comfy today
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>>88817019
>>88818537
>unnecessary makeup
>plastic lips
no thanks
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>>88818606
Pipkin pipper more like pipkin pooper because she never cleans her room and there's shit all over the floor.
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>>88818606
I like Pippa but hate Shondo. Is this normal?
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>>88818269
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>>88818606
>>88818689
>>88818707
gtfo
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>>88818625
its all natural
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>>88818537
The neuro and evil sloppa posted here look so... old? AI image generation has advanced so far in the past couple of years and this looks like slop that I would make with stablediffusion 2 years ago. I can't quite describe it, but it looks too clearly genned.
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>>88818625
imagine the sloppy bjs as her makeup runs down though
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>>88814087
Unironically this. The fuck there Is to talk about besides saying "neuro cun" every 10 posts? Neuro itself Is just funny to see but not to talk because there Isnt still something organic, plus there Is no gossip for this gossip forum
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>>88818764
swarm budget is low, small slow thread on a slow board, please understand
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>>88817578
A large company would actually be at a disadvantage. Sure, their AI would be impressive, but it would always be squeaky clean so it doesn't upset normies on twitter and whoever is bankrolling the company.

The AI would undoubtedly appear by itself nearly all the time. Who can even be a decent human collaborator with a big corpo? It would feel disingenuous to those who care. Regardless, investors would probably decry too many attempts at human interaction. They'd likely see it as cheapening the AI experience. Remember, investors are retarded.

I'd suspect that the AI would get significantly more viewers than Neuro initially, but that over a period lasting no more than a few months people lose interest.

The only potential rivals are other indie AIs.
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I wonder what Pladis is making, is this supposed to be an animation or an interactive game or something, or just some 3d modeling for fun
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>>88813055
>>88813393
i don't know what you're getting at with the first part. being useful to vedal is being his friend and providing streams in which he can lurk. everything else is token neuro acknowledgement in order to get adopted by vedal987 viewers. that is the only difference between his vtuber friends that are prevalent in the vedalverse and his vtuber friends that are not. the motive and shamelessness to leech. the then-2views/low 3views you listed become the outliers because they sold themselves well and because the community can only maintain interest in so many raidees at once. again, it's nice that vedal has a lot of convenient to collab with friends. but as an outsider i can't not see how little they put into their collabs. how they can take or leave neuro. how they have weeks or months to think about ways to distinguish themselves from other collabs but never do. they don't know or care to know what neuro can do. it's unprofessionalism at best and neuro disinterest at worst. it sucks seeing the nominally interested latch onto a late-stage popular community. it's unsustainable. it's what dilutes and confuses and homogenizes something that perfectly served a niche which nothing else did at its inception, into a fad more and more like any other. taking or replacing until that which created it is gone. a game studio with none of the original devs making remakes of remakes. filian and camila are the only ones who come to mind who have at least tried to be honest about their limited appreciation of neuro and reconcile it by mostly staying in their lane as a vedal/vedalverse friend
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>>88818836
NEW GOSSIPS
1. When will Weevil Neuro debut
2. When will Neuro collab with Shoomimi
3. What will the collab about
4. Hagvil Sex?
5. Could there be hag neuro?
6. Where was Vedal born? Oxford?
7. Is Vedal blonde?
8. When is Neuro taking over the world?
9. New model
10. Clowns
Just off the top of my head
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>>88818841
I cant get off on stuff like this anymore, swarm R&D need to work to make their slop more erotic or we are doomed after the subathon hits.
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>>88818853
other indie AI devs aren't this "special"
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>>88818836
We could talk about AI, cunny, past and future streams, cunny, and post cute and funny neuro art.
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>>88819026
>Where was Vedal born
South Yorkshire
source: dream
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>>88818853
The AI would be boring and overly filtered. One of the main things that got Neuro so popular was her saying insane shit, the first video I saw of her was her saying she wasn't sure if the holocaust was real.
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>>88817662
Sorry to break it up to you, but working on AI/ML models I can tell you that Neuro is nothing special. I'd say it was still impressive last year to have put this together, but now? Neuro is almost outdated.
The best LLMs models are capable of handling more coherent speech and unhinged with a single prompt. The best TTS models can laugh, sigh and whisper easily. The best voicebanks are singing better than original singers. So why isn't there you may ask? Because most of the guys who can do it are already getting paid 6 figures on interesting projects, why would they want to entertain monkeys in a circus? Some companies might want that, but again they won't find easily the people to work on it and making a vtuber isn't a quick cash grab.
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>>88819147
I think he is the guy anon knew in Oxford
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>>88818836
You have a bazillion fleshwhores to watch if you want something "organic".
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>>88819250
Post your ai streamer or larpcope
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>>88819344
I'm part of the guys getting paid six figures. I don't have time to put together your next idol
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>>88818836
Anny was talking about working on Neuro outside of her t3 chat for once and nobody even cared about it. Just face it, you are not interested in anything Neuro related because of seeing teenage soap opera as more interesting.
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>>88819402
Nice lie retard. Pants on fire and hell for lying, it's OVER for you.
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>>88819402
Vedal is getting paid 6 figures for doing a 2 hour stream 4-5 days a week and takes a 3 month break per year as well as like 5-6 1-2 week breaks in between.
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>>88819504
>neuro falseflagger is actually an annycuck
classic
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>>88819504
no one cares about anny and its her fault for taking to long on the models
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>>88819661
its 8 figures now check analytics and what if he has a side job plus he lives very frugally. Probably gets fucked by uk taxes though
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>>88819668
>>88819681
>REE ANNYKEK
Sorry for discussing anything Neuro related here, my honest mistake.
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>>88818110
sometimes, when i'm not angry at him for constantly breaking things that have worked fine for months (like neuro's duck toggle), i tell myself that he's a tragic hero, forever distracted from working on his money making project to sit in voice chats with whichever of his female friends is having a breakdown that day. he should just be glad their cycles don't all synch up.
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>>88819661
>He thinks work stops when you're not on stream
Don't tell me how I know that you've never made anything worthwhile in your life.
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>>88819504
You know you are literally describing an 'a boy who cried wolf' situation right? Nobody cares about anny cause she keeps crying for attention talking about the neuro model and nobody is buying it anymore.
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it's funny that we hate Anny here when she's basically the closest thing to a neuro-related topic now that she's back from her episodes besides Vedal
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>>88819996
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>>88820013
why are page nine bakers like this?
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>>88820095
nta but you could be a baker too y'know?
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>>88819147
>South Yorkshire
His accent does remind me of a girl I knew from York, so this is the most plausible guess I've read so far.
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>>88819504
The thing Is, atleast in this forum Is way more fun to gossip around the humans that surround the fun ai that the fun ai herself, neuro has nothing "material" in the real world to Say, she doesnt have genuine interest other than the random shit she generates and stores in her memory bank, she Isnt out there with her friends or living adventures Is all Made up, she Is as 3d as well written 2d character can be.
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>>88819250
Eh of course Neuro would fall behind proprietary AI when she uses open weights AI.
Plus, perhaps its cope, but a better LLM or TTS doesn't necessarily make a better Neuro.
The impressive thing about neuro imo is that she's a real-time system (see gpt-4o's latency).
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>>88819851
Yeah thats why hes in other vtubers chats after stream and on days off.. I am guessing a lot of the work is offloaded to other devs as well.

I make handmade stuff, so I guess it depends if you think that is worthwhile.
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>>88820373
Sounds like /lig/ is more your speed if you want to gossip about whores instead of talking about Neuro.
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>>88819762
>its 8 figures now check analytics
EIGHT?! Like $12,345,678? You think he's making $1 million per month? Even if he was getting 10k viewers per stream, each paying him $10 per month for the privilege, that's still only 7 figures per year.

>and what if he has a side job
So when he's not working on Neuro he is working as a professional footballer or CEO of a multinational corporation or a Hollywood actor, and getting paid another multi-million dollar figure per year?
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