Amelia Watson and Dooby appreciation threadThis thread's for our girl, an adorable, dorky, wonderful angel!Last thread: >>88815881
STREAM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTiqoycoOSE---Check Cytubemate project for 24/7 Ame vods: https://awat.420699.xyz/Play Chiku Taku: https://watsonamelia.itch.io/chikutakuStream Chiku Taku: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYVweqOW31wAme links and info: https://rentry.org/Ameliur---Dooby's website for links and info: https://dooby3d.tv/Backup rentry and additional info: https://rentry.org/Doob3DDoob's discord logs: https://rentry.co/doobcord--->Note that discussion about past-Ame is generally discouraged, the scope of this thread starts with Ame, moving forward from there. >Respect for other Holos and the rules that govern their respective threads is also important, so only if and when on topic, focus on one persona and avoid blending references.
ILOVE AME AND DOOBY FOREVER
AMEEEEEEE ILOVE AMEEEEEEE FOREVEEEEEEERhttps://rentry.org/AMECUTE2Have a doobday friends!
IT'S OVER
ILOVE AME AND DOOBY FOREVER>ELDEN RING MENTIONED
>pressed b to roll like elder's ring>maybe i'll play it againoof
SHE HATES IT
>good introduction>maybe I'll play it again>collab gameLiterally never again.
ILOVE AME FOREVERNot a very doobular afternoon on the hunt....
>maybe i'll play it again for a collabSHE HATES IT
ILOVE AME UHH DOOB
>darumaisgod in her lobby
Imagine if she raids Rica, haha.
My Japanese wife!
>Exclusively a collab gameSo I guess she's not playing this again when it comes out, nor playing World. RIP.
>>88822184whomst
>Flash gameDooby3d playing PALADIN on NEWGROUNDS
ILOVE AME FOREVERAND DOOBY TOO
>>88822284big jp flesh streamer
Doob please finish your thoughts and sentences
>>88822184nani the heck is that
Bubbles is literally raping Henri on stream
ILOVE AME FOREVERDoob doob!
Remember Ame's editor? kek
>YT for main game series>twitch for fps and medleys
>Video editorKowkarot... Kazuchi... it's time...
VODFAG HATE
Time for a fanmade VOD channel, boys
I get what she says, but my autismo is triggered by not archiving things
>yt for all the good stream>twitch gets all other slop
She HATED monster hunter...
>VODkeks
She still can't comprehend people will watch her no matter what.
>who cares about vods lolunironically one of the worst takes shes had in a while.
monster hunter requires more braincells than dooby has
Dangerous road ahead! Be careful!
>>88822490Good
>>88822420Kazuchi maybe. I don't know if Kowkarot would ever settle down as a one-oshi clipper. I guess depends on what doob is looking for specifically.
>>88822508she knows that retard, she just doesnt care/finds it cringe
Who cares about VODs bruh, just watch me at 2am in the middle of the week lmao
Archive anon it's your time
>>88822560ogey
>no more dual streams? well when i get my backup internet-no more dual streams it seems then
>>88822527It's the same mentality she had with her csgo vods on twitch before
damn thats kind expensive
>2500 for business.The fuck?
>$300/monthLiterally scammed.
elonfags wtf
>StarlinkShe's actually streaming from a train
you can just hear someone rubbing their hands the entire fucking time
>>88822551That’s not the image I was looking for…
Starlink sure will go up in price if orange loses and elon goes to prison
that's what a monopoly does
>DeusEx
>I'll take off my shirt!... WHAT?
Starlink sounds like a fucking scam at this point
>>88822630It's for boomer fucks in their RVs
DOOBY HOW IS BUBBLES
DEUS EX BROS
How's bubbles?
DUDE SEX BROS WE'RE IN
Yes, an exclusive and premium package costs more.
>Deus Ex soonBased
>deus exholy shiiiiiiit
DEUS EX LET'S FUCKINGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>DUDESEX streamsLET'S GOOOOOOOOOO
DUDE SEX LET'S GOOOO
deus ex might be too based for doob
>>88822655That only makes sense if she's running, like, an entire office full of monkeys sitting in front of keyboards.
>CPFuck yeah!
>collabs soonTEE EHM :tm: :tm: tm
>>88822745>>88822760>>88822768>>88822783>>88822795>>88822798what if she hates it just like monhun
she still kinda dislikes collabs lmao
>starbertsI will fucking hunt down every single retard that votes for this.
>>88822818chumbud please
I will not be any of those dooby
rumor has it dooby3d will be collaborating with the AMELIA WATSON
>Cyberpunk soon, but not yet>I have an idea for itCP GODS
>>88822721starlink has been life changing>t.rural fag
That bug on her arm looks like she's embarrassedly fixing her hairCUTE
>not really good at collabs at all>avoiding it because I'm really bad at it
Why the need for collabs
>>88822818>>88822868so funny guys
>No 2D rigger yet.ASK RRATMOM
>>88822818You gotta go back to your own thread, chumbie.
>>88822890because indiefags are obsessed with their vtubers interacting in the clique. they are mindbroken by the idea of someone just streaming by themselves.
>>88822890She wants friends.
>>88822466Yeah that's what I'm thinking if she doesn't
>>88822890because vtubers are supposed to 'collab'!!!1
>>88822917Do you guys REALLY want her to rig her?
>>88822890she's probably feeling that she needs to do them idk, or maybe she want to try to get out of her confort zone
me when I abbreviate cyberpunk (I am the funniest man alive)
>>88822868>>>>>>>>88822890because she's already answered some messages about it and will likely keep having people beg about it for 80 million more yearsShe wants to do them but her doobism makes it a mountain to climb
>>88822837what a shame
>>88822885she's too self awareshe is just like me frfr
avoid collabs, play old school rpgs
>>88822979Yes, I miss her grin...
>>88822979>Do you guys want 2D Doob to be cool and cute?Uh, yeah?
>>88822944Yeah but she's the one bringing it up
>>88822979Why not?
I don't understand the point of vods. So what if you don't have the schedule to watch her live at all times and you miss an incredible stream you'll never get the chance to watch because it gets purged lol
>>88823038because indiefags are demanding her
>>88822890People want to know what clique she's gonna fall into so they can start work on their shitposting angles early.
>>88823038she was reading chat when someone asked about collabs, though?
>Acrylic stand
>>88823031>play old school rpgs alone or end up collabing with hagsacceptable route
>>88822890Because she wants to
ACRYLIC STANS
I FUCKING LOVE ACRYLIC STANDOS
Dooby thighs...
>>88823084It'll be there for 2 months, retardchama
I FUCKING LOVE ACRYLIC STANDS
>>88823097global/catalog dooby like that
So she kinda don't wanna start Membership on Youtube 'cause Twitch people already subscribed? Fuck Youtube users i guess-uh
Acrylic stando!
YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD ESCPAE THE PLASTIC
>Acrylic standkek
>>88822961She had them and tossed them aside for all we know
ACRYLICSTANDKAMIS WE'RE BACK IN IT
kyut
>>88823031Morrowind when?She can use unofficial patch now
I FUCKING HATE ACRYLIC STAND.
did dooby like monster hunter
glorp my beloved
glorby jumpscare
GLORP
>>88823135It should be there forever, her brain worms think she isn't worth watching when she just does long csgo or fps stuff
SHE IS SO CUTE FUUUUUCK
CUTEEEEE
Is she making fun of acrylic stands?
Speaking of merch!https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1853240750630453613
no more acrylic, please, i'm already full of microplastics...
>>88823135I know I'm jorking
CUTE DOOB
>>88823153Everyone that streams on both runs into this there's no good solution. She could do a patreon or paid Discord but you're not going to get nearly as many members.
>6 month anniversary>birthday merchShe is never going back.
>merchhow about no merch ever?
>>88823216she thought it was fun but she wanted to treat it like a collab game. maybe she will change her mind when the full game comes out.
just don't get scamed like the other retarded indies
>stand>not goggles or conductor coat
CUTE CAT DOOB
>>88823301retard
>>88823301I already made my peace with it >>88823304Why not?
SHE HAS BONEITIS
wtf
LOOK AT HER GOKEK
LOOK AT HER GO
lmao
Damn I didn't know Dooby could do it like that. Latinas are just build different.
>>88823362merch is cringe
KEK
holy shit i'm wheezing
>>88823305I think she just felt overwhelmed by being thrown all the mechanics at once. Probably if she decides to play the full game they'll introduce them at a slower pace and she'll enjoy it more.
GO DOOB GO
Armando?
lmao what the fuck
She did the Towa thing!
fucking hilarious
>>88823401If she does collab with it, having someone experienced who can explain things would help a lot.
Dooby should try Nier Automata, great game.
>>88821879dooba
cute hic
>>88823441twi...
>The ghost of Armando lives within DoobyIt's fucking over
>>88823480Man, too bad she won't be able to collab with Biboo.
>filtered by monhunI no longer care for her
>>88823401Its not a good demo but its the best one by Monster Hunter Standards, usually they just throw you at 3 monsters with preset loadouts and its like "good luck kid". The real games have training areas where you can practice your combos and read about weapon mechanics.
>>88823480>do this>dont do thatthat would be gay
>>88823424You mean Doojandro?
>>88823503CUTE
Doobcord hate!
home
>I keep saying bye but not leaving
End the damn stream, woman.
Classic Dooby.
>>88823390is the best way to support a person and you also get a physical object. How the hell is cringe?
>raidingAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
SHES GONNA RAID RICA
>>88823537More like>here are the controls that you didn't read and keep complaining that there is no run button
She did so many collabs early on, several with JP members when she couldn’t speak a lick of Japanese and she did fine. What the hell happened to her confidence?
PLS RAID RICA PLS
>random
IS SHE GONNA RAID RICA?
>>88823620Ignore the poorfags.
She tried raiding Rica!
>ricakeksoh nonononono
RICA MENTION (SHE DOESN'T HAVE RAIDS ENABLED)
>rica has raids turned offdang
oh well
>>88822420Kazuchi my boy. He's the only one I trust.
SHE WANTS TO RAID TO RICA>Can't FFS YOUTUBE!
>she cant raid rica>but she wanted toFUUUUUUUUCK THIS STUPID PON VAMPIRE DOESNT HAVE THEM ENABLED
>>88823620buying stuff you dont need is cringe. just donate money.
This PON BANPIRE FUCK!
>Rica mention!>can't raid into her yetSOON BROS
STUPID VAMPIRE! FIX YOUR SHIT
>>88823699it's not yt's fault if the person doesn't enable it
YOU STUPID DUMPIRE, TURN YOUR RAID ON
>>88823714>give money to Youtube and Twitch instead
BASED retard
So close
While i think raiding Rica would be nice, idk if bringing 8k primarily english speakers would be the best thing to do.
you know what i was thinking, what if gura was a frog
Why did she sound so low energy today?
RATE THE STREAM
>too retarded to be raideddoobrica bros...
>>88823759mask slipped
I manually raided Rica.
>>88823714thats the most retarded comment i've read in a long time damn, and i've looking the catalog so thats kind of hard
>>88823809She's gorgeous
>>88823780WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF
>>88823819same
>>88823801I don’t know that she did, but she probably didn’t sleep enough and she hasn’t eaten.
>>88823801barely slept so she could play monhun before the server closes
Amemel still being a possibility is the last thing I thought would happen
Knowing that Rica's raids were off means she tried. Makes me hopeful for a collab sooner than later.
Dooby has big doobies
>>88823780>>88823832
>>88823714>>88823813What's this, some kind of ligger thing?
>>88823877Nature is healing
>>88823809she looks like chloe
>>88823819Me too, no condoms.
>>88823887
doob being allowed to acknowledge rica is actually huge. it means shes probably not as bound as we thought she was, meaning collabs with people like kson or rms of holos is on the table.
>>88823809why is bibi on her head?
did this bih really turn off reacts for live stream pings gyatt DAMN
>>88823807Dooby cute/10Glad she gave MonHun a try finally
>>88823974>we
>>88823974Gura is probably going affiliate soon too.
Why not just put a link in chat to Rica's stream?
>>88824002>Trinity MonHun neverpain
>>88823809she cute and based
>>88823978he will be punished for his crimes alhamdulillah
>>88823974That was already known, but Mel was terminated anyway, I don't think they care
>>88822890I think people are wanting her to collab with Myth members and they're roundabout requesting that.However I'm afraid we'll just get random dumb indies instead.
>>88824085
Today was a good day
>>88823771I agree. There's a large cultural gap, and desu I don't really think the average EN viewer can contain their "le secret knowledge" autism. I'm sure if she wants to interact with Rica on-stream, it'll happen in its own due time.
one of the devs of outer wilds was there
>>88819650what did I miss?
>>88824021If Ame went affiliate so she could stream more on her own terms without perm autism what value would Gura have in going affiliate if she already doesn't stream outside mandated ones?
doob cute, I will now physcally raid rica
I told you retards to push light bowgun or she would never play the game again.
>Check Rica.>Crispy stream.Never change, dumbpire.
>>88824168That one chick in the game looks like kson but lebanese
>>88824160Based dev
>>88824168the handler lady looks like kson, she acknowledged it and wanted to fuck her
>>88824168they had sex on stream sorry you missed it
>>88824168she just zoomed in on the npc that kinda looked like her thats all.
>>88824219>kson but lebaneseKson already hates dick though.
>>88824160kek
>>88824271kek
>>88824203my semen wishes to raid ricas vagina after seeing her non-vtuber content
>>88824202>Ame went affiliate so she could stream more on her own terms without perm autismThis still isn't true.
>>88824168someone in chat compared Alma to Kson and she saw the resemblanceshe later tried to kiss and rape Alma and doob all inside her ass and pussy
>>88822689>stupid ass fucking obscenely rich people>not getting away with everything>almost every fucking timeThis is the real world steamate. Elongated Momma's Boy Skunkmusk will get away scott free again as per tradition.
>>88824160he is so fucking based
DOOB OVerNEXT UP ON THE CYTUBE. FRESH VODSSTARTING OFF WITH THE MYTH COLLAB DON'T STARVE TOGETHERAfterDETECTIVE DIARIESLA NOIRSE #2HALO REACH WITH MORISUPA SUNDAYWill begin shortlyCome hang out with us: https://awat.420699.xyz/Also other gator news. We won the hologauntlet in lord of the board 3 today. Time stamp here https://youtu.be/by2gu8WZRAE?t=16816 its a pretty short fight though
>>88824295QRD?
>>88824202He's just spreading rrats. Kiara said something in her members stream that I think people are misconstruing.
>>88824160how based can one dev be?
>>88824374booby I swear there were images of her pubes peeking in some sets
>>88824341Based. Watchalong tomorrow?
>Saving it for a collab gameShe's going to play it with her wife.
>>88824374Canan8181 lite
Damn, the stream didn't derail at any point.
>>88824374sex with banpire
>>88824439lets aim for next weekend maybe?
>>88824458I... fixed it...
>>88824540FUCK YOU JIMMY
Does anyone actually expect any rm collabs? I really don't think those are happening at all.
>>88824439>>88824495My suggestion, stop pausing and shit for dooby streams, and just let things play.
>>88824390It's got nothing to do with the member stream, people were just using that to add fuel to the fire which was Senzawas bio being changed to say #1 gawrgura fan.
>>88824540Nice try Jimmy, all you did was rape Anya while she was wearing a Pinky Pie cosplay!
>>88824540JIMMY LOVE?
>>88824540You did good Jimbo, but isn't it about time you took responsibility for everything?
>>88824580>isrealhuh
>>88824540You did it bastard... also FUCK YOU JIMMY!
>>88824572No & all indies she raided are good too. So I expect she will choose her collab partners carefully.
>>88824390(me)Oh and guras roommate twitter bio links to Gura. Probably hacked but who knows.
>>88823974Why did you think she was bound at all? It's not like Dooby=Amelia Watson has been acknowledged by Cover, what do they care what the doob does?
>dooby says she's going to raid a random vtuber>doesn't raid my literal 1view oshi that's streamingDOOBY HATE
GOLEM GET YE GONE
she sounded mad while trying to raid ricadid something happen over at Cover
>>88824572At this moment i dont care, i just want to watch doob and thats it
Damn, she really fucking hated monster hunter huh
>>88824572I do, but not this soon
>>88824724>raiding a 1 view>on youtube how do you expect her to find someone like that
>>88824902Randomly click around gaming tags and refresh the live filter until YT decides to show them. Duh.
>>88824427>>88824457>>88824490Dozo, I can't believe Doob nearly got to fuck that
all of this begging for interaction from a socially awkward doobit's like nothing's ever changed with you all
>>88824740
>>88824299I've seen this clip in my recommendations the other day. Not sure how much of it is true but maybe this has something to do with Ame decision to leave.https://youtu.be/5MmATNMfXyM?si=cy3NXuG1gcHLYWLu
>>88825109It wasn't even true at the time, Mori was just retarded and didn't understand her tax situation.
>>88824595can you blame him?
>>88825093
>>88825084Being socially awkward is a flaw she should take collabs as a chance to improve herself
okay doobnight
Is she going to collab with males?
>>88825109Ame doesn't live in Japan and America.
>>88825109I believe this was sorted out and it wasn't what she thought at all
>>88825238yeah, me
>>88825238She will collab with Towa
>>88825210>alternate universe where anya is weird and anemic looking because she actually raped jimmythis would be a good fangame spin off
>>88825222
>>88825238Yeah, Jimmy.
>>88825238yeah towa
>>88825229doesn't really change the fact that people are posting like things will magically change lmaoalso the RM schizos are back again
>>88825238There's a chance but it would most likely be like her holostars collabs so group collabs onlylike neuro and vedal + some indieor doki and rprtrust herI just hope she avoids leeches like sykkuno
>>88825297Some of these were pretty hot ngl also please do the glorp poses
>>88824880Honestly i don't get the hype.The palicos are cute though.
>>88825426As long as she never does 1 on 1 collabs I can ignore the others
>>88825488Taking down powerful big monsters is satisfying.
>>88825488is a well-known and well-liked franchise and is currently in the fomo so yeah, thats it
>>88825488It's a multiplayer game mostly
>>88825502shes an indie now so i highly doubt she will keep that unwritten "no 1 on 1s" rule intact.
>>88825502she can do collabs with vedal, is not 1 on 1
>>88825625There is no unwritten rule, that was just her own preference. Lots of other holos did 1-on-1s.
collab beggar liggers are so annoying
>>88825238Are there any notable male vtubers who are indies?
hot dooby buttjob fresh from the drawthread!>>88825663
>>88825502>>88825625I mean there's plenty of indies that don't and only do group collabs so yeah.i don't think she'll change on that, she knows what people want and don't want, she barely collabs that much (compared to a lot of other vtubers) anyway
visiting from /mouse/it didn't get mentioned there but thought you should know that if your girl hasn't mentioned it, dooby and mouse have been chatting. no confirmed collab but mouse did the thing where she reads the question out loud and then is silent and slides off the screen so eventually yes
>>88825709holofags*
>>88825743Now that you say that I don't think there are, its mostly women
>>88825745dooby booty uwah sexo
>>88825795rat on rat, hot
Do we think we'll ever see doobee
>>88825488The monsters are usually pretty cool and seeing their cool looking gear makes you want to fight them more and the more you fight them the better you get at learning their moves and tells, which makes you a better skill wise and gear wise for the next monster, leading to a pretty satisfying loop. Shout out to my boy glavenous
>>88825795Would you happen to have a timestamp or is she currently streaming?
>>88825795Nice
>>88825795Can you provide a timestamp of this? O just around the time she said it on her stream
>>88825795timestamp or bullshit
>>88825795Just letting you know I don't like her
>>88825743There's a few of them, but most are 3views
>>88826008retard
>>88825795That's nice, she's a good girl
>>88826008that's not what that rule is and you know it
>>88825965>>88825989>>88826017https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2293045504?t=3h3m9s
>>88826081What is that model kek
>>88825795>>88826081great. cant fucking wait for everyone to beg for her to join vshojo or do reactslop streams.
>>88826081What a fucking leech. Always picking up somebody else's sloppy seconds.
>i chatted with doobylet's hope it stays that wayholy fuck the vultures are here
>>88825795>>88826081Letting you know there's a shitposter currently on the thread, shit stirring at any chance
>>88826081what's that model lmfaoThanks anon
>>88826081I don't mind mouse but some of the company she keeps around really rubs me the wrong way, I trust Doob so I wont let it bother me much
>>88826081Thanks friend
>>88825795hopefully she convinces her to join
>>88826238>>88826256
>>88826081Nice, looking forward to it
>>88825795they should play a rodent themed game togehter
>>88826070Okay then explain it, smart-ass.
>>88826313Are there any?
>>88826081that chibi model looks awful and even worst when she took off the hoodie
>>88826256If she's never gonna talk to them again were they actually friends?
>>88826330reading comprehension please
>>88826335bad rats
>>88826350bro, she have like a thousand models, whats the problem with one stupid ugly looking one?
>>88826261agreed. mousey is a good girl but some of her friends are insufferable or terrible people.
>>88826081>1 year of NDAvshojo said there would be debuts in 2025 so it fits
>>88826081 (me)heading out so I don't intrude further, have a nice day anons. can't wait for our girls to meet on stream. she seems cool and they're both yoolie daughters which is neat
Every time a stream ends there's this retard desperately going through every possible shitpost on cooldown kek
>>88826335Get all the rrats together for Transformice.
>>88825795>>88826081No thanks
just blow the thread up already
>>88825743As general chatting/variety streamers? None that I can think of. Most of the males that I know of stick to one game. The only ones I can really think of as variety streamers are Randon and Caspurr, and they seem more than content to stay in their own lanes. I think she follows Shindigs, but probably more for the novelty of his streams rather than a desire to collab; idk what they'd even do together anyway.I seriously doubt she's in any rush to break her collab hymen, and she probably is fully aware of the unspoken pressure surrounding who the first collab is going to be with, which probably puts her off doing them even more. It'll happen when it happens.
>>88826451>abandoned silver alreadygoodbye anon
>>88826436Have a nice night, [mousey fanbase] I don't actually know
>>88826432If you hang around bad people you likely are one yourself.
>>88826081That model reminds me of smol ame
>>88826408just giving my first impressions on the model i dont watch her or know anything about her or her thousand models
>>88826330It's to filter idiots who reply to her posts in the public channels with weird shit and people who try to dm her or smthShe referenced gosling twice yesterday and people post gosling gifs in the discord. She's not anti gosling.I don't think she's going ti change her self imposted no 1 on 1 with males policytldr sfu
>>88826435>The new members end up being Goob & Doob
>we have vshojofags ITTyawn
>oh the stream is over, I'm safe to shitpost now
>>88826261agreed
>>88826436Doobnight fren
They are being extra retarded today lmao.
Oh look, the foreskin fetishist is back.
>>88826794hey wait a secondthat Ame has her boobs out
>>88822685The road is still dangerous! Please, seriously, be careful!
>>88826548Because the smol models inspired every vtuber and their mother to have a gremlin model.
>>88826833Also no pants
>>88826917Whoa there!
>>88825488The fun is found when you're hunting the big guys in the higher ranked quests and overcoming the staggering odds of being a loan hunta, or jumping a monster with a group of friends. Only hunting the shitter monsters combined with not knowing how to play while trying to go up with the top tier monster for that zone is just a recipe for a boring/unfun time. Old school MH it felt nice to pull off big staggering hits on monsters timed with precise dodge rolls. Current gen MH (and Frontiers) is a lot more actiony and fast-paced with a lot of rule of cool attacks. Not really sure what the deal is with Wilds though, where it falls in between and nothing looks or feels satisfying to use for either type of fan.
>>88826261regardless whether they actually collab or not, I am not very welcoming unfortunatelysilvervale was her only actual friend from there, the rest can find jesus or fuck off all of history since 2020 has shown time and time again how incorrigible that entire group of vtubers and its community are Also doesn't help that every force doob creates has a massive fucking echo from her reputation, schizos and shitposters of all kind flocking here from the slightest of edge is tiring
>>88826917>posting this while there's shitposters among usyou're playing with fire friend
>>88827041sus
>>88827041The shitposters are what?!
>>88827041It’s the honest-to-god truth. She left Myth in the dust and now she’s gonna start collabing with leeches and sexpests
>>88827041
>>88827181>sexpestsShe hasn't told me we're collabing yet.
>>88826495Thisalso as >>88826592 said i doubt she's going to change her no 1 on 1s rule.
>>88827233Bar opened
>Not a single update post after the stream Oh, she's on the brink of death.
>>88827332She probably crashed
>>88827389>offline on discordyeah i think so too
>>88828256>last thread already endednuh uh
NOT ENDED YET