Today youtube recommended me this video of a small vtuber saying goodbye to her followers and I want to share my thoughts on it.Watching this video made me think about how many vtubers are probably out there that will never make it to trend, not everyone can have that amazing story of how streaming “saved” their life. All those channels that just disappear and only a few realize it ever existed.Watching this makes me feel sad and equally uncomfortable because I didn’t even know who this person was a couple hours ago. And I know her last performance isn’t dedicated to me so I feel like I’m watching something I shouldn’t be watching. And in some way it is, leaving behind your persona is practically anouncing your death.Anyway I just wanted to share my irrelevant thoughts.Have you ever found a vtuber after graduating and wished you could have found the channel sooner?
Yeah, Go Go Nippon Live With You
There's likely hundreds or even thousands of channels like these. Have fun watching all of them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1Y9CnlglwY
>>88873998There are thousands of 2views and they're already in the top 1% of all vtubers. There are likely hundreds of thousands of 0-1views by now.
>>88875005How do I get a 0-1 view touch craving vtuber gf
>>88876070Find a 2view and start interacting with them for a bit.If they start getting parasocial with you specifically after some time, you may have a shot.
>>88874066I thought she was just moving on from vtubing like the hundreds of other failed 2views.What the fuck? The world can be cruel.
>>88874066i can't listen to this.
What kind of accident causes you to lose mobility and then gives you a heart attack?
>>88873875Well that's fucking bizarre. I got this recommendation earlier today too. And they recommended me a video of someone who died giving a final message to his son last month. Why does the Algorithm do this? It did it a bunch during COVID too.
>>88876506I'm more surprised that she keep it as a secret many months. instead of going to Twitter and try to gather some concernfags she keep that for herself until the very end.I can respect that.
>Have you ever found a vtuber after graduating and wished you could have found the channel sooner?Yeah, I have
Your oshi will die someday
I'm gonna stop reading this thread now. It's making me depressed.
>check her other videos >they are barely 2viewsThis is depressing. And fuck Elon.
>>88873875Was "recommended" this earlier. Tough video to watch.It was her goodbye, in more ways than one
>>88878188Says she had a heart attack hours after posting the video. And her genmates are disbanding because they can't access their accounts and even post anything ...
>>88874066Holy fuck I need to get out of this hobby. This is beyond sad
>>88877207Two nickels ...
>>88873875i remember i found marica bellerose shortly before her graduation. only half a year after counsil debut it clicked in my mind
>>88878420Shit like this makes me realize that maybe my life isn't so bad after all.
>>88873875>>88874066>>88878188>>88878420Not good with sad stuff.can anybody TL;DR the video?
>>88876848I got recommended a video a dude made months in advance of his death to cancer talking about how he was sorry he wasn't able to make more content for everyonefucked me up, man
>>88879532>chuuba had accident>willn ever walk again>doing everyday things hurt>she's been holding it for months while streaming until she couldn't do it anymore and told everything listed above>The dream is dead, no one saved her, there's no happy ending>she diedthat's it
>>88873875>oh no another retarded cunt stopped dumping digital garbage on the internet
>>88879682what the actual fuck...
>>88879052>Have no goals or dreams>Healthy as can be>Someone has goals or dreams>They get terminally sick or crippledIf there's a god, he's very twisted that's for sure.
>>88879814but enough about your life
>>88879814you gotta be some twisted to fuck to write something like this
>>88879532
>>88879981Don't be too hard on yourself anon, you don't need to have big goals and dreams, just enjoy the little things that make you happy, and if those things stop making you happy, then look for new things.Goals aren't about achieving big things, goals are the rutes you take to enjoy life.
>>88873875RIP, she seemed sweet... now I suddenly want to watch more 1 & 2views, what's a good place to discover them?
>>88879981make it your goal to support someone with dreams
>>88882043People act like Youtube sucks for finding new people but literally just search "#vtuber", sort by live.
>>88882580thanks anon!
>>88882043>>88882580That works, most indies are on Twitch however
God damn. Why did I find this thread? About 15 minutes ago I had planned to go for a wank and watch my oshi after that... but I threw a glance at the catalog and made a mistake of opening this thread. I don't even know this people, but here I am, listening to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8Vd6Lhz2oo and being sad for no reason. Needless to say that my plan to wank is completely out of the water, I hope I'll get myself together for the my oshi's stream in half an hour. I don't even wanna think about how I'd feel if something like this would happen to my oshi.
>>88873875It really sucks, but it doesn't suck as bad as an ACTUAL death.>>88877207That one legit makes me tear up. RIP
>>88882795>most indies are on Twitch howevernot for long.>>88882834the chuuba in OP actually died today you retarded tripfag
>>88882847I just want to listen to her hum You Are My Sunshine one more time...
>>88882944Yeah, I looked it up. My bad. RIP.
>>88880488Please get out of 4chan before your pure heart gets corrupted.
>>88883418Tbf I specifically avoided mentioning her dead directly in the op, it's was already depressing enough.
>>88879981This,when I see things like this I feel like shit because it reminds me of a similar situation I lived with a girl I knew. She lived next door and we basically grew up together, we distaced from eachother as we got older but we still talked from time to time. Then one day my mother told me she was in the hospital, a week later she died at the age of 21. She had a brain tumor or something like that. She was such a nice hard working girl that went too soon while I was and I'm still here living a mediocre meaningless life, I just can't avoid thinking that It should have been me instead of her and every time I see a chuuba that's been working years to achieve her dreams go I feel the same again.
>>88879981I think is a good reason to pursue a goal in life. Maybe for you you're a nobody but for someone else you can be somebody.Reminds me of this Spanish Civil War poster.>Nobody is an anonymous hero before God
>>88879613RIP Paul Harrell, tbf he was one of the biggest guntubers ever so its understandable he considered the channel his life's work
>>88877207Her cover are good fuck this gay earth
Saw that video too.I despise when things end like this. A crushed dream, her saying "no one will probably remember me" broke my heart. And things like these will keep happening to people, an art piece left unvished, a canvas aching to be bled. It could be us next time, to have our life cut short and our dreams vanished. Just remember, all things have their value, and for that we must enjoy them while they last.
>>88883639by putting "death" in quotes in the subject line you actually disrespected her.
>>88886425Yeah. It’s a lot of “what could have been” along with all these almost perfectly preserved moments of someone, a person just like any one of us, who’s struggle and dreams ended before you knew who they were. It feels a lot more visceral when people have so much of themselves out there, nowadays. May she rest in peace, in a better place than here.
Fuck this fucked gay fucking earth
>>88873875>Have you ever found a vtuber after graduating and wished you could have found the channel sooner?She seems cute, but she apparently stopped streaming a while ago for some reason.
>>88879981>Worthless waste of space that gave up on any dreams or ambitions a decade ago>alive and well>Someone who despite living in constant pain makes an attempt at doing something they love>deadThat's a fucking cruel joke
>>88873875>>88874066>>88877207This sort of thing is soul-crushing. Sweet people with little or virtually no fanbase, who keep doing what they love in spite of awful circumstances. They gain most of their popularity in death and they'll never get to see what they meant to people. Even when they ask to be remembered as they know they'll be gone soon, only a few of us will still remember a while from now.There was a young Japanese youtuber who killed herself a few years back. Was fairly popular, I seem to recall. Can't remember her name for the life of me and I hope one of you knows. Her bio or last community post was thanking her parents for giving her life. That stayed with me, but I want to be able to find her channel again. So that I don't forget again.
>>88873875Rest in Peace Ami.
>>88874066>you guys saved my life so many times, I really love youI can't imagine how crushing it must feel to be one of the people who this was directed to and to find out what happened the next day
>>88896270The guy that was there for most of her YT streams...
>>88897462"it's okay"
>>88897462pain
>>88897462>>88897925Damn, if you regularly show up as one of her only viewers, fair chance she was his oshi.
>>88873875>>88874066>>88877207>>88897462 That shit ruined my week. I hate you niggers
>>88873875This thread is just asking for trouble
>>88903169It's the kind of trouble I stay out of.
>>88874066This hurts.Some people have that shiny sparkle in their eye, their goal sitting right there in the future yet they always get shot down when they run towards it... yet others remain blind, no light, no goal and can continue walking aimlessly in circles for decades.>that "please don't forget me" cut off by her cryingFuck dude...I wonder how fast she worked on her last video. If she died hours after publishing it then there was a chance her fans never have gotten her last message.
>>88897462>It's okay
>>88905080Totally fumbled that last sentence. What I mean to say was: If she died hours after publishing it then there was a pretty big chance she could've died before conveying her last message to her fans.Can't imagine an even more crueler fate than that.>>88897462>"it's okay"
>it's okayi'm too autistic to interpret this properlydid he move on and doesn't care anymore?is he hiding his pain?
>>88905385The latter. He's basically just entered grief.
>>88873875I wish I had found Beatani earlier, I only started watching her a few months before she graduated and I still think about her sometimes
>>88873875>Have you ever found a vtuber after graduating and wished you could have found the channel sooner?No, I haven't, but I'm not sure I'd wish to have found them sooner because the grief would be worse. Finding someone's work that is now dead is sad but not as sad as if you had been following them a long time and even contributed. Then it's more personal. This tuber is more immortal than most of us will be so long as her videos remain up.
How do people know she died?
>>88906079My instant rrat is that she had one suuuuperr parasocial fan and the death was just a smokescreen to be rid of him.
there's this really adorable kind of autistic asmr vtuber I found randomly on youtube one night and she only gets an average of a hundred views or so. She doesn't coom bait or put on an overly fake persona or beg for views. She just whispers about her autistic interests and hums every now and then. It pains me to know how much she's invested in a nice microphone, a cute model, custom backgrounds, etc. and only 200 people saw all of that and subscribed. She seems so sweet and I hope she has great success soon
>>88873875I found some nice vsingers. Their skill and potential can rival corpo. Unfortunately everything else they do is boring
>>88877207Yeah, the drunk cowgirl
>>88907395I'm really not sure vsingers are actually better off becoming vtubers instead of taking the old fashioned utaite pill and just releasing tried to sing videos as shorts with minimal editing and maximum upload frequency
>>88874066Anime wasn't a mistake
>>88905802Me too
>>88874066The most haunting cover of kokoronashi I've ever listened
>>88876262How do you even find 2views? Twitch and Youtube both have shit search functionalities.
>>88907808We've come full circle.
>>88908124the suggestion in >>88882580 may be the best way. Just search for them using hashtags and see who's live or whoever comes out. Or search for your favourite game and put vtuber next to it and you'll see quite a few 2views, even 1views pop up.Can't guarantee they'll be entertaining but there are a lot of options.
Funny thing about this thread and the reactions is that if you're a regular on this website, you probably don't have a real dream, and even if you do you'll never achieve it due to autism and lack of motivation. But these girls at least tried something.You say their deaths are sad and depressing, but your life will likely end without the having tried part.Not that it matters. It was all rigged from the start and you forget everything after each life anyway. If only humans could receive some help in determining what dreams to pursue. Instead we spawn and fuck around like animals without guidance.
>>88908353Passion has always been an alien concept to me and it always feels strange hearing people talk about it. To me it doesn't matter if the girl had a dream or not - life's a beautiful thing in and of itself, so it being cut short for someone is already a tragedy.
There are discussions in another thread how it could all be a hoax >>88903587
>>88876848The algorithm calculated that you will die soon and wants you to put out a final video about it, too.
>>88876506>The aim of this article is to analyze cardiac dysfunctions occurring after spinal cord injury (SCI). Cardiac dysfunctions are common complications following SCI. Cardiovascular disturbances are the leading causes of morbidity and mortality in both acute and chronic stages of SCI.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3018985/(Disclaimer: I didn't watch the video because I'm not into misery porn. If it wasn't an "accident" like your post, another comorbidity is multiple sclerosis and cardiovascular issues like heart attack and strokes.)
>>88908353If you knew a thing about this place, you'd know that the majority of the EN scene were all lurking and shitposting on /a/ a decade ago, you can have a dream and still shitpost in Narutard threads
>>88908353I think most people struggle with this thinking they must achieve "something" You must graduate from college and get an important job; get to form a family and die in a big house.It's good to have goals and dreams but doing nothing with your life is fine too. I think one should have two main objectives in life. Seek happiness and be a good person. If your life is feeling empty search for new stuff to do, otherwise don't force it.If all you do is work you 9-5 shift and consume vtuber and other online content, you have nothing to be ashame off, as long as you are enjoying it.
>>88873875I just looked this upwhat the fuck she is actually dead, like DEAD dead, after her grad, what the fuck?
Why god?
>>88908670If that was the case, it's probably going to be because of WW3 because i've been getting a lot of recommendations for that too.
I see a lot of people commenting on her videos and tweets now saying stuff like they won't forget her, and it frankly makes me sickWhere were they when she was alive? When she was posting videos without views, tweets without comments? Where was that compassion when she was alive, alone, crying scared and in pain?If you weren't there in life you have no right to appear in death, is only performative so they feel better with themselves before moving on with their dayDisgusting
>>88912105Bro cemetaries have open gates for a reason, be glad they at least pay their tributes if they didn't pay attention
>>88912301>be glad they at least pay their tributeWhy?She lived alone and then she died alone, convinced no one would remember herNo matter how many comments and updoots her channel gets now nothing will change thatI don't feel glad by people patting themselves on the back before moving to the next algorithm video, they are not the victim here
>>88912105>Where were they when she was alive?Unaware of her existence because the algorithm is cruel, it’s not really that complicated
>>88912554>they are not the victim hereAnd neither are youHer fear of nobody remembering her did not come true, now it's up to you to keep her in your heart for the rest of your days
>>88911452Then you look at Kronii and her 'problems' ...
>>88873875All of it was fake>>88907578>>88907031>>88903587It's just another BPD bitch trying to grift her way to popularity, you guys are too gullible
>>88915381This looks like schizo shit and doesn’t really confirm what you think it does.
It's always very upsetting to find a Vtuber passed away. Because it could be you and your Oshi in that situation. I know of 13 now that have passed and some are especially heartbreaking like Zathurnalina passing away two days before their first year anniversary that they and her fans were so excited for.I cried typing this. If something happened to my Oshi I'd be joining her.
>>88874066
>>88915381Could be, could be not.Both scenarios' sources boil down to "dude, trust me"Both scenarios are pretty sad too. There's no winning here.
>>88874066Lmao what
If it's real, it's fucked up, since not only did her friend die a few months before of a heart attack, but then she dies of one, and now the rest of her friends are probably having the worst times of their so far short lives.If it's fake, then what's the point? She'll get no money or actual fame from this.
>>88876506Upper spine injuries. Lots of nerves responsible for your heart are located there.
>>88879814Being edgy isn't cool or in style anymore anon
>>88874066Honestly I'd rather this be a hoax than the sad truth. I couldn't watch past the first two minutes because of how depressing this was
>>88897462>it's okay
Bros, i hate /sad/ threads so much.
>>88915381To popularity? How is she going to come back, she's dead, fake or not
>>88877960What's depressing is that you still exist.
man this shit absolutely ruined my day. what the hell
>>88897462>Thanks oshi and wishes her to get better>oshi dies the next day>it's okay
>>88894063>they'll never get to see what they meant to peopleThey do anon. That's why is important to remember them. Right now these chuubas are giving God one heck of a stream.
I get the vibe that this is a teenage girl faking shit for attention
>>88916565Just fucking ban cars at this point
>>88915381God I hope its fake. Would mean no-one is dead
>>88908124I was wondering the same thing, and found this resource: https://vtubie.com/vtubers-live-english/
>>88881697Thank you anon for these beautiful words
>>88921918this ui is horrible.
>>88905385To expand on the answer: The thing that is okay is ‘the other commenter telling him about it’. He said this because @andoryus said he was sorry.
To those thinking it's fake, it's not like she has anything to gain from it. Also, I don't those tears can be faked. And as for seemingly strange behaviour from her or others around her, micro-company oddities and/or genuine autism can play a part.
>88920345I get the feeling you are desperate for (you)s
>>88897462>It's okayI don't think it's okay bros...
>>88925631they also could just be trying to process their grief
>>88874066>fireworks outsidejust went from 0 to 11 on the goose scale in less than two minutes, god help me
>>88873875back when i first started getting into vtubers with Korone clips and the like youtube recommend me thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30dQX4OU5logod it was heartbreaking.at the point i stumbled on it her channel didn't even exist anymore.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogVVOwp5Yvkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOk98ODqpeI&t=33si searched a few more things of hers afterwards and man. i hope she managed to get healthy
>>88874066>got into a life-altering accident this year>can't remember even an approximate date>can't walk>diesUh... what? Is this real?
i don't know if it's real or not, but I'm going to err on the side of genuine because the alternative will just add to my cynicism. I usually only watch Hololive where my kamioshi and a handful of oshis live, but as a 'vtuber fan' I'm thinking there's also a duty to find 2-views that show promise. Find them, be a genuine fan for them and show them support - offset all the predators they probably get. It would also be nice if there were a general on /vt/ where we could share good 2views, but that's asking a lot - I seem to remember there being one a while back but my memory is hazy. Probably died because of self promotion
>>88876070unironically mel nekomata. shes a miserable person as well as an awful person herself and constantly talks about how lonely she is which is why she streams. shes legit an ugly person (i saw the livestream of her graduating from university and shes ugly as fuck) so when she complains about being lonely and wishing she had someone to love her it isnt just kayfabe to get pity donations (shed rather lie about having cancer to get pity donations) so shes unironically the best bet you got. shes talked about flirting with a mod of hers in the past.
why
>>88874066man...
>>88879682Sounds like Joker 2
>discover a 2view, has a cute model and entertaining streams>"huh maybe ill watch her when my oshi's not live">watch her once or twice then forget about her>after a few months a stream of hers pops up in my feed>graduation streameven if its my fault the pain is still crushing
https://youtu.be/nf11ctcEk20?si=WpzNDmo8Bf-RD-7X
>>88935715What a little brat. I hope someone gave her a spanking for that.
>>88935630On a related note, that thing about not touching baby birds because their parents will reject them was a lie. You could have saved those babies, Anon!
>>88935630You can't save them all.
>>88935630Remember that you are powerless and everything that you love and cherish can be cruelly ripped away from you and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
>>88873875sad
>>88873875over 150,000 people in the world die every day on average and with numbers like that sooner or later it will be a vtuber someone watches
>>88908353I have a dream, but the law don't allow it
>>88873875>>88874066More soul than any of the shit corpos and shit grifter indies combined. Holy shit.
>>88874066please be fake
>>88912105>they won't forget herBecause she created a very special performance. Not because they always love her or anything. Don't misinterpret words>If you weren't there in life you have no right to appearNot ur position to judge, chud. She hid it for a long time. Keeping the vods also her decision. Respect that.
>>88915381Not fake. Those accusations are cruel jokes. The desperation is real. The huffing sound and pain fit her condition
>>88897462
>>88907105Well, link her channel. You can't expect the Algorithm to promote her on its own.
>>88897462Narrator's voice: It's not okay
>>88876070go save this cute, stupid Russian, anon. Every time I see her streaming she has less than 10 viewers and I feel so bad for her. Like her vods and shit only have dozens of views, but she has been streaming for years and years. It's heartbreaking.https://www.twitch.tv/vtuberarisa
>>88944997>15k>less than 10ccvAlgo deboosted her because she's very obviously botted. She would have more success on a new channel.
>>88945112she's been at it for so long, imagine how soul crushing it is to get some botted follows from some oiler once, then be completely abandoned and stream to literally no one. How depressing would that be
>>88874066sounds like 4chans own Kiki. gonna tell my rabbit i love her
>>88944997Maybe she should try streaming on YouTube or simulcasting.
>>88897462>"it's okay"
>>88915381im hoping its fake which means no one has died
>>88874066quite possibly the most haunting cover ive heard. fuck, man.
>>88874066jesus christ that's depressing. that poor girl
>>88873875rather than finding them after their death, i found her before her death, Minori. when she announced that she got cancer and that her activies will slowly slow down i got worried after a month or so. so i made a reddit post it got traction and she commented in it. she was gone 8 days after.. a friend told me that i shouldn't have done that and left her to focus on herself. but i couldn't, not after her last tweet being full of regrets with her saying "i should've loved more". im just glad she knew that there are people who still thought of her at that time.
>>88952892I'm sure it was comforting at least to hear all those words of support at the end. Everyone wants to go out thinking they actually mattered, thats just human nature.
>>88952892Are you sure that's her?
>>88944997Just stream on twitch, they said.It's easy growth, they said.
>>88916670>Both scenarios' sources boil down to "dude, trust me"Both scenarios' sources are the same person.
>>88925631>To those thinking it's fake, it's not like she has anything to gain from it.Attention is the ultimate currency to a teenage girl>Also, I don't those tears can be faked.lol>And as for seemingly strange behaviour from her or others around her, micro-company oddities and/or genuine autism can play a part.Those others around her ARE her.
>>88944997She polycules these three. I'm sorry she is destined to fail.
>>88879682"For no one can know the needs of a man who don't let nobody know..."
>>88873875I hope her "genmates" are okay... it seems like they were just three friends trying something out...
>>88961004They were her sockpuppets, not real people. She created and killed off a different "agency" as well.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=douhUDh6WQQ
>>88877207fuck
>>88961987Is she crazy
>>88873875This case is even sadder because she graduated due to her severe health issues... and she passed away like hours after graduation. Also apparently the company she worked it was very small and poor and she basically ran their Twitter account and somehow ended as the only person knowing password to it. The entire company decided to just cease activity because what they are supposed to do?
>>88961987...so she did not even had friends and forced herself to pretend to have group of people surrounding her because of sheer loneliness?Like, fuck. Imagine being bedridden and slowly dying and your only friends are ones you make in your head and the 2 or so people in chat. It's just fucking unfair.
Thread be overdramatic like the YT recommendation algorithm always prioritising drama.
>>88873875this is so fucking sadRIP
>>88961987How did you even find this?
>>88873875There was this vtuber with a degenerative eye disease that kept getting worse eventually culminating in quitting Stray because she just cannot play the game despite all the accessibility tools. She then quit streaming then and there.
>>88968340Damn, that sounds horrible.
>>88961987What the...???
If I was a vtuber making a retirement video, I'd post a cover of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unRldLdllZ8
>>88955755yes, her account is deleted now but im sure it was her.
>>88874066i cant.. fuck thats too sad. but i need to know, its too quick, too brief. their discord server mods and genmates isnt saying anything more about her condition. its possible that its because they dont have much viewership that they dont deem it necessary. still.. this cant just suddenly be it. what was the accident? severe physical injuries, traumatic chest injuries, burns and severe infections can cause for one to live painfully everyday and risk having a fatal heart attack. fuck i just want to know more.
>>88874066I really, REALLY hope this thing is a fucking Sonny-like grift, because fuck if this shit is true.
It's fucking fake. She kills things when they're not immediately and unfeasibly popular, and usually deletes reddit posts (under all her various personas) when she doesn't immediately get her e-dick sucked with "le ebic updoots!". Most of the accounts surrounding her are literally just her on an alt, which she pretends are different people because she THINKS "this is how corpos do it". Now she's upset because boo-hoo she generated a fake """"tragedy"""" and can't properly profit off the attention from it, because the fast-hitting dopamine of attention is only available to accounts when they die after making up a tragic anime backstory. :(
>>88874066jesus fucking christ
>>88877207Her twitter was full of some real tear jerkers from her long drawn out struggle with Cancer.
>>88972490post proof retard
>>88972490I don't really care.
>>88973093see >>88915381if you want to be spoonfed, or join her fucking discord for yourself and look around for 5-10 minutes, you gullible little faggot. Good to know you don't have enough experience with real girls/women to see through this shit immediately. Cry harder, it's what the poor totally-for-really-reals-dead vtuber would have wanted you to do to remember her. :(
>>88915381Oh shit. How do I cancel a Paypal donation? I want my $500 back.
>>88961987Jesus fucking christ
>>88879814NEDM
>>88974367are we sure you are not the bipolar one? You literally have no source other than "vibes", it would be incredibly obvious if she tries coming back, but its basically dead.
>>88897462>katawashoujo_imfine.png
>>88916565>13Fucking hell, and I thought I was paying attention.
>>88961987If you're saying she did all three of those voices then that's actually kinda impressive
>>88879682any speculation on what would cause that? accident with not being able to walk, leading to improving health, then declining, and finally a heart attack?
>>88975966Quite sure, actually. Not my fault you're either too retarded, too young, or too incompetent to run gay ops that don't fall apart any time things are looked at with any level of scrutiny. Why don't you fabricate an obituary and send it to some "vtuber news" vtuber, I bet that would get lots of pity likes thrown to poor little totally, for-real-100%-dead-and-100%-real Ami! :(Make sure you can let them know how they can support, either through donations or by subscribing to someone she's survived by! :)
>>88978114Link to those donations and subscription begging?
>>88978585Those haven't happened (yet) but I'm sure if they do, whatever entity is currently in charge will let everyone know! :)After all, they seem pretty upset that a "dead" girl's channel has gotten so much traction as HyaxisVTG said in their reddit OP. Their caring Reddit OP which is definitely NOT emotionally manipulative in any way! :(
>>88979026Got it, you're a bipolar cynical schizo.
>>88874066Why did you do this to me?
>>88979530>Um, Anon? Provide links (which were never stated to exist) to one specific part of something you said in a way that clearly indicated in a future tense, which was said in order to illustrate how manipulative people could use this to your advantage?>"They haven't done that yet. :)">B-BIPOLAR! CYNICAL! SCHIZO!Holy shit kid, you really are special. You should probably get checked for Aspergers if you can't pick up on social cues in written form, just to be safe. I hope people don't take advantage of you too often because of that in the future, but maybe that's the only way you'll learn. And hey, at least you didn't deny the "too retarded, too young, or too incompetent" part, so good on you! :)
>>88897462This is a person crying with their soul
>>88908617Holy jesus, how am I only just finding out about this?I remember watching some of her streams.Fucking jesus>>88922224Fucking Re:Act man. Now I hope Lie and Aria get out too.
>>88915381>>88961987need sex with menhera women soooooooooooooooo bad please be inL O N D O NONDON
>>88982658it's funny that you are calling that anon a kid, when your tone really makes you an unlikable mentally immature tranny or something.The irony is you need a reality check, I hope you are not a basement dwelling femcel, because you fit the stereotype nijisister.
>>88873875Most streamers/vtubers do it as a hobby. I feel like if they can become a 2vu then they should consider them fulfilled in terms of enjoying their hobby. If you do it because you're trying to make a career out of it and/or become famous, then you're fucked.
Heartbreaking shit man, hope I'll remember her down the line
>>88982658I can see why you would come to the conclusion that it could all be fake, from the second reddit post, the way some of the talents interacted in their friend group. It could all be fake. But at the same time, the way her genmates interacted and spoke could be a sign that they were just her friends who went along with Bloo, could be very young to the point where their honesty could be interpreted as sarcasm>"oh why do you all care now that she's gone?"is something a teenager would consider 2deep4u, you know what I mean, with phrases like "God only picks the most prettiest flowers".In the end it could be either way, if it's fake she wouldn't get support had it been done maliciously for attention, but at least no one would be dead.Better a fool than an asshole, in this case at least, though, her "please don't forget about me" sounded real to me. Haunting, in a way.
>watch oshi for years>suddenly oshi sounds very different in uploads, very soft spoken, no inflection, deadpan, things you wouldn't recognize as off unless you know what they usually sound like>make an effort to make them laugh on every video or upload/stream. Never ask for attention. Just make a point to boost their mood without sucking up or sucking ass.>disappear due to personal problems for a week>oshi frantically uses third parties to contact>apparently they took the something something in 2020 and hadn't been feeling well in awhile>I'm like their brother or something nowYou never know until you know.
>>88874066What the fuck.That sounded genuine. I don't know if she was making it up, but I believe her.Godspeed, whoever you are.> Verification not required.
>>88879981>>88891814>TLDR: not everyone has passion. Just do what you like. If you don't know what, start from normie points - job, gym, offline friends, gf. I talked to a few extremely ambitious relatives in my life* CTO of national oil company (though my country isn't big)* someone who held a position similar to surgeon general in the USABesides these achievements, their lives are completely fucked, from crippling health issues to their families falling apart. They sacrificed almost everything for their positions, but that's beside the point.>Have no goals or dreamsI'm the same, and I've noticed that people who have them had essentially a childhood trauma / experience / scar that made them eternally seethe with motivation and desire to achieve goal / gain more authority or money in their lives. And while you might not have this feeling, I bet that you have some stupid dreams you forgotIf you can't remember, then I recommend getting yourself as bored as possible. You'll eventually recall what you wanted to it. You can go skydiving, visit Antarctica, join your local firefighter crew. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZPRX9X5V5IThis guy is a fag, but the video contains a good info about using boredom to your advantage.
I'm leaning on the side of this being fake, as cynical as that sounds. Not a schizo but way too many coincidences piling up that make this whole scenario seem contrived. Also another anon in the other thread made a good point about her and her genmates never interacting on stream and yeah... after digging a bit i have to say that he's right. Final nail in the faux coffin for me.
Makes me remember how I religiously watched every song Selphius ever did almost immediately when they appeared on my feed.The she disappeared from the internet without much fanfare, last ever stream I picked up (largely at random) was on spring '23. The last public message half a year later was nothing but ominous.Selphy, du wirst diese nachricht in alle wahrscheinlichkeit nicht lesen, aber Sie muss auch wissen du wirst nicht vergessen werden.
>>88874066>You guys saved my life>literally died after the goodbyeI will start thinking about this, maybe I should not drop Vtubers anymore so they don't get an heart attack.
>>88876262I don't really chat in streams since big ones move so fast. Does youtube have like a DM feature or something?This seems like my only chance at ever meeting women
>>88873954Nostalgic
>>88897462"It's okay"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQsF3pzOc54
>>88989301>her genmates never interacting on streamthen who are the people talking in her discord?
>>88992652Alts I suspect. If someone could link me archived footage of her and her genmates actually bantering with one another I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but so far I haven't seen anything of the like. With how much this hobby attracts grifters/weirdos I shouldn't be surprised.
>>88879981Maybe we're all meant to suffer. Some by having their lives full of ambitions cut short and some by having their lives full of ambitions cut short.
>>88874066aw....
>>88989633Damn, I just read her last tweet and I see what you mean. Talking about constantly being in the emergency room.
o7The pain's gone now
>>88916972This is that poster's brother. He died last night and his last wish was that people thought he was cool so your comment is really thoughtless.
>>88996152>emergency roomunrelated vtuber.....but still
>>88998200How do you die to your leg? Did she throw a clot or something?
>>88998660Most likely
>>88998660>clotPossibly. I was going to check the memorial link but nitter is down currently
>>88873875>>88874066An update from their manager if anyone interested.
>>89001239>replying directly to posts made /here/
>>89001383We're not the center of the world, they may just be replying to people on twitter or whatever
>>89001551It's most likely about the thread on reddit that blew up.
>>88873875
>>88988032>apparently they took the something something in 2020what
>>88874066o7
>>88984349>no counter-argument or anything, just "Uh, uh.... nijitranny!"Maybe I called them a kid because they're acting like some kid with no life experience with obviously manipulative people, and coming to the defense of someone with a lot of holes to explain in their story. I mean you could try reading the quote chain again, it's okay, I know reading is hard, but do your best! One day you'll come up with something beyond the meaningless "Nijisis tranny phasecuck" insults!:)
>>89005680 (me)meant for >>88986531Sorry bro!
its okay
>>88873875ye, one i knew a few year ago, idr them now ironically, but ye its real sad :(
>>88878420wait she died? fuck im outta the loop. gotta do some research ig.
>>88988032>>oshi frantically uses third parties to contact>>I'm like their brother or something nowThis never happened
>>88989301if its fake id happily give out some info i found but only if its like proven true cos i dont wanna dox someone from fake claims i’d feel too guilty lmao
>>88992652None of her alleged genmates post in the discord regularly. If you mean the others, some of them are probably actual friends or low IQ orbiters who were suckered, perhaps a couple are complicit in some kind of scheme. Thousands of men fall for e-gf/e-wife scams every year. I already posted in the previous thread how one of the first accounts to follow the "agency" account is also one of the most regular Discord users.
>>89001239kek, the coincidences keep piling up. I'm glad they took my advice to delete the posts where she doxxed herself though.
>>89009782wait she doxed herself? damn
Honestly I'd rather this be fake because it sounds like she and her friends are a bunch of dumb teenagers fucking around. Yeah it's scummy but at least that means nobody fucking died.
>>89009906Not fully but she posted videos of her walking around and driving in a car presumably near where she lived.>>89009979>are a bunch of dumb teenagers fucking aroundNot even, there isn't a single video where she and one of her agency partners have an organic conversation.
>>89009979i mean ye it would be the best outcome but still shitty. how would we even get proof?
>>89010119The proof is1) a proven history of 'Ami' inventing OCs, pretending to be them, pretending to do karaoke with them, etc2) those OCs never having a human conversation or karaoke with Ami, and posting nearly the exact same content at nearly the exact same times as Ami3) other assorted goofy lies like an exploding computer being responsible for a cancelled Ami & friends stream4) the manager 'Maria' being involved at multiple points of Ami's vtubing, being allegedly fired in August, somehow rejoining, a different manager also dying, claiming she lost access to Ami's passkeys with her death, then regaining them to delete self-doxx videos, and casually mentioning that she's Ami's cousin5) Maria having an extremely narcissistic and weird perspective about Ami's death, "Why did no one care until she died?", extremely trashy behavior that few family members would engage in6) Maria uploading a SUPER SECRET RARE NEVER BEFORE HEARD SUPER EMOTIONAL FINAL SONG from Ami which was allegedly recorded between Ami's goodbye stream and her death less than 24 hours later, which Maria had access to because she's just so closeThe only way Ami and Maria aren't the same person and Ami is a real person is if there was some incredibly abusive relationship thing where Ami was this locked-indoors handicapped girl who did nothing but pretend to stream with her imaginary friends while Maria recorded it and promoted it.
>>89010827ah shi ye i see ur point. so now what?
>>88996152> Talking about constantly being in the emergency room.Note that no matter how ominous that was, it's not like Selphius is likely to be dead or anything like that.It's more probable she had some issues (already known earlier, there was a prior hiatus), and she just decided being an e-celebrity in the end was not for her. And unlike MKNK, she could actually quit and go through with it.That's what I choose to believe at least.
>>89011381It doesn't seem like the video is going to go truly viral so probably just forget it happened. Since I suspect that Ami/Maria is a legit narcissist, she'll probably be unable to let it go entirely, attempt streaming again under a new name, and dig the hole even deeper for anyone who even cares.
>>89011578ye ig that makes sense. welp thats their problem if it happens.
>>88877207this world has no justice
Bump
>>89011578been thinking n still feel bad for the people who fell for it tho
>>89015725Just pretend it's an anime drama like Clannad where you're supposed to cry
>>89015851hm fair enough
>>89015725Yeah, >>88897462 doesn't deserve this. But it's probably for the best. Ignorance is bliss in this case.
>>88874066This proves the iron whore is faking it to grift her simps.
I don’t really think i buy this Ami is Maria rrat, it all feels very convoluted
>>89016223ye feel bad for them :(but like.. she got away with gaining almost 2k subs from it right? idk why it just feels ick
>>89016518She won't ever profit from it unless she is super dumb. She already "killed off" Ami in a way she will never benefit from. If she had left one of her "genmates" to continue on the legacy and etc., that is the only way she could've benefited but I think people would've caught on with any serious digging quite quick which we already did without that. So apart from broken hearts from the viewers and people who read about this which sucks, at least things didn't get serious and result in bad consequences.In case you are reading, "Maria" or "Ami, you would have to be extremely dumb to try this again, people will find out and expose you and do horrible things to harass you should you do so. Please reconsider and actually make an effort into growing one persona if you do continue Vtubing, it's not like you don't have the elements to actually make it.
>>89011425I wish I had your optimism. If she intended to leave, it would be simple enough to tweet about ceasing activities to focus on other things. And it seems she was very popular and had a niche part of the singing sphere.
>>88908124>Twitch and Youtube both have shit search functionalities>>88921918wtf are you on about?>twitch>click vtuber tag>sort low to high
