Believe it or not but there's still a way for Nijisanji to salvage the situation in the West in the long run but it requires time, resources and them stepping on their own pride:1. Address the Selen situation in full: say who the bullies were, denounce them in public and fire them (if they're still working), offer a 6-digit compensation to Selen2. Apologize for the black screen video and the smear campaigns against the terminated talents, denounce the ones who were pushing it in public3. Work on a deal with Selen which leads to both Niji and Selen making a united statement that there's no more bad blood between them4. Fully compensate the graduated talents with a good public image who Niji still owes money to (Mika, Nina, etc), with a decent $ bonus on top. Working out a deal where talents officially state on their stream that Niji is doing better now would be also good.5. 2% cut is not enough, make it more favorable to the talents and spread the info6. Make a proper overseas management department and not the joke that it's now and clearly announce what exactly is changing in the future7. Fire problematic talents who sow internal discord if such people exist8. Apologize a lot, not to the investors but to the mistreated talents and the public9. maybe something more that I forgotWith these I can see the public image of the company slowly changing for the better.
The only real, genuine option is to shut the entire branch down for a few years and hope nobody remembers them when they come back rebranded, a la Brave. It won't ever be as big as they were before, but it'd be better than this if properly supported.
>>89404697none of these will ever happen, and even if they did, the remaining talents do not have the CHOPS to target the American Audience. Heck HOLOLIVE barely have the chops to do it since Gura stopped streaming.
>>89404697well they're currently in the process of fulfilling the compensation packages they offered the blackstream perpetrators in exchange for their help in the smear campaign, so i doubt any of that is going to happen
>>89404697They are not willing to sacrifice money for those
>>89405072Vox was actually not supposed to be in this live, someone dropped out and they forced him into it. It's obvious, because the fucker can't sing and the branch only has one male singer not featured in the event already, whom is a lazy fuck
>>89404697>Address the Selen situation in full: say who the bullies were, denounce them in public and fire themHave any of the ex-livers ever talked about Selen being bullied?
>>89404697This will never happen because then their JP branch will riot over EN being treated better.
>>89405577Japanese work ethic would prevent them from doing that
None of these things are going to happen. Not only are JP companies nlowtue to admit their mistakes but niji openly admitting their wrongdoing and compensating their employees would be stock market suicide.
>>89404697> 1. Address the Selen situation in full: say who the bullies were, denounce them in public and fire them (if they're still working), offer a 6-digit compensation to SelenWon’t happen. Also public denouncement is exactly what they did to Selen and it fucking sucks to see that. I don’t care if the person was a bully or not unless they committed actual crimes, keep their identities private. Any sort of monetary compensation would not accomplish anything.> 2. Apologize for the black screen video and the smear campaigns against the terminated talents, denounce the ones who were pushing it in publicI agree they should apologize, but again, public denouncement is not ok.> 3. Work on a deal with Selen which leads to both Niji and Selen making a united statement that there's no more bad blood between themEntirely unneeded. If Selen wants nothing to do with them that’s her prerogative. Trying to force a statement would only make AnyColor look worse.> 4. Fully compensate the graduated talents with a good public image who Niji still owes money to (Mika, Nina, etc), with a decent $ bonus on top. Working out a deal where talents officially state on their stream that Niji is doing better now would be also good.Interesting that you specify that only the talents with a good public image deserve compensation. If Niji was ever going to do this, they’d better treat all ex-talents fairly and equally. You’re essentially suggesting a bribe here.> 5. 2% cut is not enough, make it more favorable to the talents and spread the infoAgreed > 6. Make a proper overseas management department and not the joke that it's now and clearly announce what exactly is changing in the futureAgreed > 7. Fire problematic talents who sow internal discord if such people existWho decides who the problematic talents are? In the eyes of Niji, both Zaion and Selen were “problematic”> 8. Apologize a lot, not to the investors but to the mistreated talents and the publicAgreedYour plan focuses very heavily on publicly punishing the people who you see as the “baddies” and rewarding the ones you see as “good ones”. Instead Niji should focus on supporting the current talents and work to ensure that none of this happens again.
>>89407267Organic reply
>>89404697i see you fagoons are already trying to make compromises, and still being as titled as ever. Let's see where your grifter stands by this time come 2025
>>89407470What part of my response seems like AI to you?
You know full well that management isn't interested in doing any of these bullet points, right anon?
>>89404697Set it on fire and collect the insurance money
They wont do that because of 2 things1.)That would make the bullies turn on nijisanji and expose all of their dirty laundry which will open a can of worms that nijisanji doesnt want to be opened2.)That would also have a ripple effect to the people they selen'd in the past like that jp chick or kr chick or the whole cast of yumenographia and will open another whole can of worms
>>89404697An apology / mass firing could have worked if it was instant.... but its gone on too long now and would seem fake.
>>89404697>1. Address the Selen situation in full: say who the bullies were, denounce them in public and fire them (if they're still working), offer a 6-digit compensation to SelenThat's already too much to ask from them, I bet that even if hololive had a similar drama they wouldn't do that. Corporate ethic and stuff.Everything they need to do is just rise new talents and pay them enough so they were happy to work on them. Or else everyone would look on them as a stepping stone company, work for them for year or two, build your fanbase and graduate. That's just baseline of that they need to do, everything else like a possible collab with Doki is just extra.
>>89407900It's a purely academic discussion, like discussing how Lance can win the title without winning any of the remaining races or the Qatar sprint hint:P2 with fastest lap in all three races, and P2 or P3 in the sprint, while Max doesn't score any points in any of them; or hope that Max gets a season DQ like Michael did in 1997Note that Step Zero is "stepping on their own pride." That by itself should be an indication of the likelihood of Anycolor investing so much as a single yen of money, a single millisecond of time, or a single iota of effort to try to salvage their overseas reputation.
>>89404697Even the first point is impossible as by doing that they would literally be taken to court by the Canadian government for creating such a hostile work environment that an employee tried to kill themselves, would lose that legal battle, and lost the ability to do any business with anyone in Canada including all employees. Potentially they would get the US on their ass for that as well and lose all of the US. The first point alone would shutter the branch.
>>89405527obviously not. They'd get zaion'd if they did. The only people who've mentioned selen/doki since the termination were iirc Doppio (mentioned how she gave him tips for hosting a tournament before she left), Fulgur (as part of a longer thing where he reacted to debut voices, also said nice things about zaion in the same segment), and I think Scarle (mentioned how "a certain yellow" is a big inspiration to her and inspired her to put more effort into her outfits and projects.)well that and vivi yelling at sykkuno to put on the fucking doki wig.
>>89404697Fuck off selen you menhera cunt
>>89404697That would not help; it would only make it worse.Best option would be to close down the whole branch and start a new "EN" branch as a partnership with some other company as the face (like VirtuaReal).The nijisanji brand is too toxic.
>>89404697>He expects an East Asian corpo to not doing anything but the right thing for as long as possible to save their faceLAMO
>>89409981What about ex-livers? Surely one of them would have discussed Selens treatment, right?
>>89404697Njust drop it. Full silence. Never acknowledge.in 1-2years' time, call the detractors who still bring it up obsessed, antis, or holofags. This is the best play
>>89409385An academic discussion on pure theories that goes to the same endpoint.Problem is, Anikara's pride won't let them do any of these things. They already chose not to change by abandoning NijiEN to the gutter. They already scuttled their own US warehouse lol. Also, Riku doesn't think long-term. He thinks of Nijisanji as "not a business where we invest billions of Yen and recover it several years later." Dude wants immediate profit. He would fail at the marshmallow experiment.
>>89410654This would work, but are investors willing to wait that long?
>>89410588No, just Mint with her vague "I learned something about my previous workplace that left me a little traumatized." during her break.Doki really doesn't want to think about that place anymore. Hell, t he reason she's pushing so hard to specifically win gamer of the year and best fps vtuber at filian's awards is because she wants versions with HER name on them, not Selen's. Also her saying that she takes back her acceptance speech from last year was pretty funny, and actually the only thing she's ever said about them since leaving.
>>89410805Pretty crazy that all ex-livers will happily and readily shit on Niji yet won’t discuss the Selen or Zaion issue at all.
>>89410775never understood Rikuchama's obsession with the stock price. Feels like Anykara has been under some kind of mandate since their ipo.
>>89411132In selen's case she flat out doesn't want to talk about it.Zaion's is a bit more sad since she actually wanted acknowledgement, but Sayu's chilled out about it lately and accepted it at this point, working instead to focus her attention on her fans and finding new friends/audiences that aren't related to holo, niji, or the regular twitch crowd.
>>89411249Riku can’t do much without the boards approval so it’s an obsession all the nijiexecs share
>>89411132>>89411468It's pretty shitty that they still partially drank the Niji Koolaid. Addressing it at this point would be an implicit admission that they were complicit in unnecessarily making her a pariah so it's just easier to keep ghosting her
>>89410444There is an upper limit to how effective a hypothetical VirtuaReal EN could be, regardless of its official name or Anycolor's overseas distribution partner. That limit either is directly proportional to, or actually is, their ability to hide their involvement from the general public.And they're a publicly traded company. If they were to do something this big, they'd have to publicly announce it (especially the part of the deal where they name the company they're working with). They wouldn't be able to NOT announce it, and it would only remain "hidden" from the western vtuber fans for the few seconds (or if AC is extremely lucky, minutes) between when AC actually publishes the IR notice and when the fans find the IR notice on their website.To say nothing about how the shareholders would feel about AC trying to fix the issues caused by the gross mismanagement of Niji EN, by spending time and money opening up what would effectively be Diet Niji EN.
>>89410739Nepo-kids could benefit from studying game theory, but they are too lazy for that. Riku will pump and dump in the end.
>>89411606Not really. Most of her ire was directed towards the indies that abandoned her, not the niji members or ex-nijis, xsoleil and finana aside. But even then, she's recently made strong statements about how she really, truly wants to move on now, having basically accepted that shit happened and it'll never go back to how it was.
>>89411132Because they don't want to face the wrath of Nijisisters. We all saw what they did to Zaion.
>>89411132Especially ZaionShe is the pioneer and should be given more credit
>>89405495... actually, yeah, where's Shu? Isn't that guy actually appealing to JP?
>>89412076Zaion was raped by twitter moralfags who don't give a shit about vtubers but to hop on a bandwagon, it might be different at this time for the same moralfags are opposed to niji now.
>>89412664He'll be at that NijiMusicFes thing in december but yeah, he's by far the best boy at singing AND dancing, so it's bizarre not seeing him shown off at the... wait. ...So is he really leaving? I can't imagine any other reason for him to not be there. He ranted about nearly quitting when the AR Live was cancelled. Do you think he actually turned his papers in after AX? Otherwise he'd 100% be here, right? If he turned his papers in in july, then jan-feb would be when he'd leave...
>>89404697In Japan, the corpo overlords are always right. Your measures are alien to their culture.Nijisanji did nothing wrong to Selen, and Japan did nothing wrong during WW2.
>>89413492thry just finished on built his live sized statue. no way they allowed him to graduate
>>89413906They don't have a choice if he wants to leave. iirc luxiem contracts get renewed in december.
>>89413732This. Westerners do not understand how ingrained the Confucian ideal of ''respecting your elders'' (no matter how wrong they may be) is in Asian culture. You can blame the Chinese empires for that. The big boss with the senior position is always right, and is entitled to make your life hell. This is also why their cultures are stagnant and dying, while something new is being formed to the south. Look at China, Korea and Japan, prime examples of cultures in decay. China is making money by having momentum, goals and manufacturing - but there is much cultural turmoil within the country, its not all smiles and prosperity, far from it.
>>89414222Chinese philosophy is exceptional
>>89413492>If he turned his papers in in july, then jan-feb would be when he'd leave......if no one else is ahead of him in the queue; or if someone is ahead of him, but they give their spot to him>>89414124>iirc luxiem contracts get renewed in decemberTheir anniversary is in late December. Their contracts might have a renewal date of late November or early December
>>89404697But I don't want to sell my yacht. Sounds good doesn't work
>>89413492Being disappointed again after finally getting a 3D performance seems like it could break him, then. Are they still giving him JP sponsorships?
>>89414800Dunno. I don't watch him enough to care, but he's been generally harmless his entire tenure....But so was Elira, and then that stream happened, so I can't take any of them at face value anymore.
>>89414862Yeah, it still feel odd to think about sharply Elira's rep went into the gutter, even though it's been over 9 months.I don't keep up with them, but if they transition another EN dude into doing more Japanese promo work, he could be on his way out. Like how Petra's been replaced with Meloco.
>>89404697Step 1: Sue Selen, Zion, Nina, Pomu, Mysta, Kunai, and Mika for breaking their NDA. They are the main source of all the drama. As long as they keep their mouths shut, Nijisanji will bounce back.
>>89415504Step 2: Sue every youtuber that has made videos criticizing nijisanji for defamation
>>89415504>>89415572I’m sure it’ll look great to sue anyone you disagree with.
>>89415504>>89415572Step 3: lose all of your money
>>89415504Mika never signed a valid NDA, and none of them except Zaion has ever publicly mentioned Nijisanji or Anycolor by name. Plus, most or all of them live in "truth is an absolute defense against defamation" jurisdictions.
>>89415504>Step 1: Sue some more people and embarrass yourselves again
>>89415876The only ones losing money here are the ones breaking NDA, and I have no pity for them. They're just chasing drama and clout. Breaking an NDA is serious, especially given the potential damage it can cause. I'm surprised that Nijisanji's lawyers hasn't issued a cease and desist yet.
>>89415876Step 4: Retire and back to the countryside farming crops for a living, perhaps having a wife and children, living a simple but fulfilling life.
>>89415995Do you think the judge will give a fuck about their wordplay? "My previous life, other me, etc.. will never hold in court.
>>89416406"My previous identity at the entertainment company known as Nijisanji"
The list of people they need to get rid of is growing all the time. Right now>Elira>Enna>Uki>LucaGet rid of them and the branch can rebound
>>89416894Preferably also purging this faggot
>>89416894Going soft on Neo-Hanamori will yield zero results.
>>89404697Did you say "more stock buybacks?" Got it.
>>89404697None of this will happen. The only way to "save" the EN branch would require gutting it of it's "most popular members" try and promote the ones with anything resembling a positive image and inject some new blood(impossible because only the most desperate of desperate would join now) Issue is the ONLY ones with any drive to promote the branch are already gone and they're stuck with people completely willing to coast.Hell has any EN member done a collab with anyone outside of niji/the hanamori friend group? (I am aware of Ryoma but the last wave is basically so far removed they should be considered their own entity)
>>89416406I'm pretty sure the court would consider the fact that the ex-Nijis went out of their way to not name-drop Niji when talking about their respective "previous workplaces" in public spaces outside of a courtroom.Also the company would be suing ex-employees, claiming that the ex-employees' public claims of not liking some of the things that happened to them when working at some implied but unspecified previous workplace is damaging to that specific company's reputation; and would be filing that lawsuit under the assumption that the lawsuit itself does not damage the company's reputation.Also most of those lawsuits would be filed in the US or Canada, two countries whose laws generally permit employees to have negative opinions of their employers.....Also most of those lawsuits would be filed in the US or Canada, two countries where Discovery is kinda sorta a thing.
>>89416406They usually said "in heaven" "in my dreams" not "my other life". They also chose their word very carefully and people make the missing connections on their ownE.g. Mint talk about how her self-esteemed was destroyed and she didn't believe anyone would watch her and the only job suitable for her is McDonalds.She never outright stated Nijisanji management were the one harassing/gaslighting/insulting her. The listener made the connection on their own.You will see a lot of this happening when you dive into what they actually saying. NDA doesn't work against publicly available information. While sunny didn't acknowledge the 2% in this clip. The figure came from a "Nijisanji Mysta Rias". So even if she did acknowledged it as being true, she still wouldn't have broken NDA
>>89417321I recall that there have been a few collabs done by Twisty, and some of the less notable males like Ver have collabed with Holostars.Outside of that, NijiEN has been incredibly insular. It's why Vivi's departure especially is a notable gut punch, she was the only one to have really gone outside of the small bubble with the Sajam Slam recently (Yes Rosemi was in a earlier slam, but that performance of hers I guess shot her confidence down). Despite already being isolated as is, they are still burning bridges.
>>89412664>>89413492Shu is still a participant in NijiFes, so barring it just being a recording he's staying for now.In fact everyone of NijiEN is at NijiFes, barring what seems to be Uki, Millie and Finana.
>>89415504>terminated contract>somehow NDA applies
>>89417475>Mint talk about how her self-esteemed was destroyed and she didn't believe anyone would watch her and the only job suitable for her is McDonalds.This was obviously Elira and Luca's gaslighting trying to make her stay. They don't care about her, only themselves.
>>89416894what’d luca do?
>>89418839All 4 of them did catastrophic damage to Nijisanji's reputationElira: black streamEnna: cuck streamLuca: sexually aggressive with the girls, to the point that he harassed one into graduation (vivi)Uki: racist against whites It's true that none of these are important from the perspective of an asian woman.But from the perspective of a western male viewer, these are catastrophic. The vast majority of EN fans are western men, that's who watches Hololive. All of these people need to be removed before there's any hope of a recovery.
>>89404697There's a lot of words in this posts, man.
>>89418839Luca was known as a sex pest who would often join the girl's streams and pester them with questions and offers to meet up with him. Whenever the girls visited Japan, Luca would follow them so he could stalk them around the country and follow them underwear shopping.He also severely broke NDA by handing his account over to a third party who leaked everything. Somehow he was totally protected and wasn't even punished. It seems the managers give certain talents special treatment. He is a huge blister and should have been gone long ago. He's not even popular anymore, there's no reason to keep him around.
>>89404697>but it requires time, resources and them stepping on their own pride: It's already over...
>>89404697>yes, lets compensate dookieshit for her smear campaign against us, im sure the corpo's reps wont be in the shitter anymore by letting her win without proofs of her false accusations.>united front with a washed up 2k ccv struggler is going to improve niji's financial situation guys! trust mEEE.faggoon's fanfiction strikes again. nijisanji is bigger than doki and will remain that way for more years to come :)
>>89404697>Work on a deal with Selendesu i'm pretty sure that they came to mutual agreement after niji shitted themselves and realized how they misjudged everything. they probably have some sort of contact, since they had to discuss vivi participation in sajam slam
>>89420300bvtm nigger trying too hard to pass as a nijisister
>>89420679Doubtful. I can't imagine Doki responding to them at all, or else they would've tried to force her to say something.
>>89420679Doki has spoken about sajam slam, apparently anycolor refused to allow Vivi to be in the same bracket as her on the off chance they'd meet as opponents, sajam asked doki about that and asked her if she wanted Vivi in it to which she agreed, niji are not in contact with doki and you should be able to find clips about this from when it happened
>>89420749well, she has a lawyer, they probably talked via lawyers to agree to just stop and never interact in any way. no courts, no public statements, no attacks, just pretend nothing ever happened
>>89420816well, that's not exactly true because doki HAS acknowledged them publicly, just never said any specific names.I think it's more likely they each decided to ignore it on their own.
>>89413492nah I think anycolor is still think that vox is the most popular nijien when luca and shu already beat him
>>89404697many of those require spending money.
the jews of vtuber.and it will remain that way until disband
>>89404697Most of those would torpedo them in the east, and it's clear that consolidating there is their #1 priority right now. The only way they could realistically bounce back in the west would be to shut down the branch and come back in a few years with a completely different philosophy and management, and I don't see that happening.
What we observe in the EN branch is managers picking favorites. Elira for example gets the red carpet treatment because she's "besties" with certain managers. Enna escapes punishment for her numerous yabs and meltdowns because "bestie bestie bestie!" Luca gets away with murder pretty much because certain managers oshi him. I don't understand why corporate hasn't "cleaned house" and gotten rid of the favoritism. Because the truth is, many of the people in the branch should have been outright fired for what they've done. Others were fired for less. The reason for the branch's decline is because they keep letting these yab talents go off-the-chain without any punishment at all. At this point they have to scrap this entire group and start something new. They fucked it up too badly, their reputation is black.
>>89404697There's an easier and quicker plan:#1 Never address the Selen situation ever again#2 Fire all Sexpest males#3 Fire Elira#4 Fire Management that was responsible for Sexpests, Elira, Black Stream#5 Rebuild from here on
>>89423284>#1 Never address the Selen situation ever againbullshit, they should apologize already>#2 Fire all Sexpest malesReally just Luca>#3 Fire EliraI agree but Enna is the real problem>#4 Fire Management that was responsible for Sexpests, Elira, Black Streamagree
>>89404697Nah, this is a cope list. There's no way for Niji's or NijiEN's image to be salvaged in the west. They will forever be branded as a black company there. Nothing they do or say will change that.
>>89404697You're ignoring another issue that I think a lot of people skip over/don't think is a big deal - the behaviour of the nijisisters, who are are the majority of remaining NijiEN fans at this point. Not only are the livers themselves clearly tired of them, other vtubers and fanbases are vaguely aware of how toxic they are and don't want to associate with them. When Doki started interacting with Sykkuno beyond just the Sajam Slam matches I was looking through the comments of one of his clippers and most were enjoying the interactions and then I came across one comment taking about how dragoons are awful incels. Another Sykkuno fan responded to her yelling at her to stop trying to police who he interacts with and to go back to just watching Luca. This lead me down a rabbit hole of seeing Sykkuno viewers getting annoyed at sisters who also watched him acting in their usual mentally ill way. This was incredible to me because both fanbases have more or less the same demographic (young women, usually SEA) and yet Sykkunko viewers seem to dislike sisters too, and did before he ever interacted with Doki.Other fanbases don't want to have to deal with them; other vtubers and streamers are going to be aware of this to a certain extent. Until you purge NijiEN of the young kpop fangirls who came over because of Luxiem any recovery will be extremely difficult. I really don't know how it's possible to go about forcing them to fuck off though.
>>89424391Has any hobby, activity or w/e ever successfully purged the kpop girls from their fandom and managed to rebuild without them?
>>89423998Moving on from the Selen thing is better than dragging it out for the 4th or so time, everybody is tired.Uki is a pest by himself, I would not be surprised if he sexpested men behind the scenes who just don't speak up in fear of being outed as "homo-haters". There's probably plenty more.Enna is a Sexpest and included in that count.
>>89424963None that I'm aware of, no. I suppose arguably fanbases of Mihoyo games like Genshin kind of have but that was because it's a Chinese company and just completely ignored their screeching - they're still present but they don't kick up much of a fuss anymore. Unfortunately quite a few members of NijiEN pandered to kpop girls so they feel emboldened.
Ngl I stopped keeping up with vtuners ages ago,’like around Selene drama time. Is Nijien still functional? At the time they were declining and I assumed they’d implode. It’s weird to see they’re still active apparently.What’s the average views and soon?
>>89427831they are still there but are barely relevant anymore unless its dramamost of their average views are in the 3view range
>>89427878Well good riddance j suppose
>>89427831Presenting the songbird herself...
>>89428077sad part is that they are dragging some other vtubers with them like those vspo en girls
>>89427831First of all, they were already in decline, so any measurement of their drop is a measure from a downward slope. But at the moment of the drama, their ccv and views were cut approximately in half. The main culprits got hit with massive subscriber drops of ~65k, although everyone lost some amount of subs. Rosemi, Millie, Petra dropped under 500k which was a meme moment. The branch is alive because the drops, though catastrophic, were not quite catastrophic enough. The japanese fans continued watching, although the western fans are completely hollowed out (to the extent they had to cancel their big concert for lack of attendance). Today it's like a mutilated body. Still clinging to life, though barely. They had a massive plan for EN in the upcoming year. 3D appearances, 3D shows, concerts, music collabs, a massive presence at Nijifes. Through some magic of Elira, instead of pulling the plug they decided to follow through with everything, which has resulted in some of the most abysmally low-viewed 3D debuts of all time. The graduations keep coming, and there are lots of hints the branch will be merged soon. Riku seems to be stringing investors along with excuses, hoping some resurrection miracle will happen. It's actually baffling what they're even thinking, because this stuff ain't cheap. Anyway you can check in on Elira's 500 ccv streams, or Luca barely breaking 1k on an average weekday. The only thing people post about anymore are the graduations.
>>89405072Why is Elira front and center in the poster ? She is not the best singer and not the biggest when it comes to numbers.
>>89428406Not just Elira, it's the blackstream trio
>>89428406I would ask the same with the other events where Elira is in the centerfold. She is always there as much as possible.
>>89428406>Why is Elira front and center in the posterbecause elira shu and vox did what nijisanji asked them to do with that black stream and this is their reward
>>89424391This is actually supporting the arguments saying that NijiEN should basically stop their activities.This is not only so that they could wipe off most of the dirt they currently have on their faces but to also wait for those kpop fangirls to get "refreshed" - the teenagers would go older and have more responsibilities, the adults acting like teenagers would migrate to other fandoms, and those who stayed loyal and are hopefully less insane would stay and help them to start over.This is also in hopes that the new batch of kpop fangirls (since it would still be their main source of income) would at least be more manageable and that they would have learned how to control these insane people during that break.
>>89428650>shu
>>89410588They won't do it, most of them are on friendly terms with her and exposing someone's trauma is a shitty thing to do specially when Doki said on her tweets that never wanted this to be public.Even if any of them don't like or interact with her they won't do it either because the whole community will shit on them for exposing someone without their consent.
>>89428650They literally ruined their career and the payment for what they did is exposure. This is even worse than an actual scam.
>>89404697You forgot the main thing, and the reason it'll never actually happen>Fire Riku and publicly castrate him by hanging him from the balls
>>89430131>said on her tweets that never wanted this to be publicToo fucking late for that. Every single one of the ex-livers had the chance to back her up about the targeted harassment campaign against her and end the bullshit the sisters spout about her lying, and they said nothing.
>>89418917most of those "western men" are brown and yellow so i don't think they care too much about racism against whites
>>89431017Backing her up back then would basically them saying "Yeah, she's telling the truth. I saw it with my own eyes and decided not to do anything about it" There's also the possibility that they also received some benefits from the clique so they are worried they would get dragged down with them instead.
>>89431074eh I'm texasian, I already hated Uki because of the sleep over stream with pomu and finanahim being a turbo woke faggot just seals the deal.
>>89428406This event is aimed at the Japanese, who overwhelmingly sided with Nijisanji when shit hit the fan.
>>89404697While this would go a long long way towards fixing their reputation, it'd still take time to have an effect, and arguably there would be a lot more effort involved in completely remaking themselves vs just keep on the current course stubbornly eking out the remaining existing fans. They could do all this but basically their current viewership levels are often in small corpo tier, so they'd be starting out from near the bottom of the hill again trying to work their way back up in reputation.It's kind of like if your car is old and becoming a beater, you start to skip on major repairs or maybe even cosmetic stuff if the car is low-value, because it's not worth the effort giving the car a huge tune-up vs just letting it run its course until its engine/transmission dies and then getting a new car. Thing is there is no new car to replace nijiEN, or so I would think. so they'll just keep driving this beater of a branch because they do not have the resources or will to repair it fully because after all, that would require effort. It also could be said that if they do a cleansing by fire full dogeza for the EN branch then the JP audience might notice this makeover and demand a similar course of action, which would be far riskier for them to even attempt to do and they'd rather not mess with what's working there.
>>89429850Quite amazing how unassuming waterbottle-man was.
>>89431074Believe it or not, western asians don't like that kind of thing either. And while it's true most of the western fans are asian, plenty of them are not. In fact if you ever hoped to expand the branch globally you would ideally hope to rope in a lot of non-asians into watching. I don't know how Anycolor is planning to expand globally with Uki and Elira on their roster though.
>>89431438Still a thing to this day. I'd ask what's wrong with Japan, but I think I know the answer already.
>>89411132I think they fear somehow Niji will try to sue them for defamation.
>>89418736....those three are leaving this winter, aren't they.>>89419335They can't get rid of him now. To get rid of him now for his flagrant contract violations would be to admit that they should have gotten rid of him earlier for those same contract violations.Same reason they're not taking down the black stream - fixing those mistakes would mean admitting that those mistakes were made in the first place, and EN branch management would sooner burn the branch to the ground and salt the earth than admit to having made any mistakes.
>>89432520That they're natural bootlickers or something? That's part of it, but I think there's more to it.For example, while she was loved in the west, the Japanese audience's impressions of Selen didn't go beyond "Apex girl" and "Maimoto likes her intro," so when shit went down, they didn't have much of a drive to favor her, even after she got her statement translated into Japanese.Japanese Nijisanji also has like 120+ people, and for every member that has a problem with it, there's like a dozen who are just chilling, giving credence to the idea that whatever happens to disgruntled employees may be their own fault.As far vtubing as a whole goes, Japanese Nijisanji is also ancient, and because of this, they've accumulated a lot of trust over the years. This could be seen when the YAB thing happened and AC put up their statements. While the western vtuber fanbase was making conspiracy theories that Anycolor were in on the act all along, the Japanese response was like "damn, they got their shit together" and "see? just believe in our guy Tazumi."I would also assume that some older vtuber fans weren't too quick to side with her because of people like Sio, Meiro, and Rushia. All of them went against their former companies and in all cases the companies were vindicated. Why would they think Selen's case is different?
>>89434493>120+A close friend of mine (former nijiJP fan, currently lives in Japan) called Japanese Niji fans extreme bootlickers for pretty much this reason, yeah. The idea that there's someone else within the company that they can always pivot to is another one of those things that brings attention to how closed off they are from the rest of the online world. The more I learned the language, the more signs of that I ended up seeing too.
>>89434493>just believe in our guy Tazumi.The guy who hired random JP girls into the EN branch? That's pure incompetence, there's no other way to say it
>>89404697kek, your whole premise is flawed. There were no bullies, Selen is a fucking schizo grifter and as time has gone on that's become more and more evident.
>>89436495>NijiEN's presence in the west is languishing>If newbies fail to attract more westerners, they're pretty much DOA>But if they know Japanese, they're primed to develop a Japanese niche instead, just like the ex-KRsSeems sound, if you ask me. Only problem is that it makes things awkward when they've already given up on the English audience but their streams still say [NIJISANJI EN]. Meloco and Kotoka need to be deported to JP.
>>89437157by that logic, Bae, IRyS and Fuwamoco should just be deported to JP too right?
fire rosemi then we can all forget it niji exist
>>89404697Nah, I'm with Zaion.
>>89415504You who what's funny? Nijisanji is so retarded, they would legit think this is a good strategy.
>>89437157>NijiEN's presence in the west is languishingBut at the moment they were being scouted, it wasn't even clear the branch would fail in the west. The decline of ILuna was a wake-up call that mixed gender waves were a flop. So instead they double down with more mixed-gender waves?The male fans had waited years to get any new girls worth watching, the ILuna girls were not. In Xsoliel they got 2 girls who don't even speak English and instantly threw themselves at Luca, and 1 girl who people were excited for but got terminated immediately. Basically from the perspective of a male viewer, the first time they actually got some new girls was TTT it was late 2023, a full 2 years later. By then the branch had been doing mixed flirting content for so long, nobody was left to watch them. I keep wondering why they got hired. The fact that they both seemed to have insider connections to top-JP's, and both were eager to get into Luca's pants. It makes me think some JP nepos were eager to plant their flag in EN so they could throw themselves at their oshi.
>>89437879>It makes me think some JP nepos were eager to plant their flag in EN so they could throw themselves at their oshi.Meloco has been auditioning for NijiEN since the very first round. The one where they got Lazulight and Obsydia. She wanted to get in before she even knew about Luca.I'm happy for her. It's nice to see a person's perseverance pay off. But really, it's clear by now that EN is no place for her. When talking Japanese, Meloco is fucking hilarious, and it's sad to see her debuffed by the NijiEN label.
>>89416107Isn't that what they did with a JP dramafag AND lost the case?
>>89438847They lost the criminal case, but they started a civil case just a week ago.https://x.com/ozawakazuhito/status/1854018144345731234
>>89439075I hope they let Roa out after this, whatever the result
>>89404697Your hired
>>89423998>I agree but Enna is the real problemEnna is only there because Elira put her there. The general structure of NijiEN that set them up for failure outside of the "managers" was cause of Elira. Enna is just the face of a problem that runs much deeper
>>89416042He didnt vote for Doki btw
>>89443883Didn't vote for her in what?
>>89443979Streamer awards, voted for Vedal instead of Doki was also nominated.
>>89444008Kek, who gives a fuck?
>>89444059grifters who thought other grifters were really on their side instead of just using them for content
>>89444479Who are you even talking about?
>>89418917>viviI don't know if you're still here anon but please elaborate, I think I missed the train on this
>>89404697Even if they did that, the situation is beyond repair. I assure you there will be enough dedicated autists to shit on them all over the internet if niji tries to play nice.
>>89404697There is only ONE solution: human sacrifice. Spill the blood of the chosen one to grant yourself one year to recover. No more, no less.I'm afraid Doppio will have to go. There are no other suitable organs to sacrifice.Make it count.
Steiner's counter attack will change the tide of the war
>shu>no way man that is too normal for a nijiname>shxtto>FUCK YEAH
>>89413492>shu>best guy at singingBack when /nijien/ had a male/female ratio of 10 to 1 as opposed to the inverse, he was heavily mocked for being tonedeaf.
>>89446416NTA, but that anon is clearly a fucking idiot. He thinks that>Luca is a sex pestplus>Vivi just graduated, and all but officially announced her graduation months agosomehow equals>Vivi was a victim of Luca's buggery and graduated specifically to get away from himI can't say for certain whether or not Luca did sexually harass her; if he did, nobody who knew about it (including Vivi herself) has publicly said anything about it.But if he was sexually harassing her, AND that harassment is why she left Niji, she would have left Niji months ago - either she would have graduated and very, VERY heavily implied that she was leaving specifically due to that harassment; or she would have been terminated for reporting the harassment (and in doing so, damaging Luca's reputation) and accusing management of not punishing him for it (and in doing so, damaging the company's reputation)
>>89404697This will work
>>89418917Vox gets a pass?
>>89428406Compensation for hosting the black stream
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