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FUWAMOCO speedran 1M and missed the entire journey of learning and growing with the Ruffians. Now they're already in the major leagues without any development to show for it. They aren't competing against runts now it's the heavy hitters and they skipped basically all the comfy early day period of hololive and are straight into the fire of constant projects
>>89436959BAU BAU
>>89436960It's great, isn't it.
==REMINDER TO ALL MENHERA==>Seek help. BAU BAU!
>sister couldn't wait and picked a random image to bake an anti thread
>>89436960>being lazy is actually a good thingthis is getting sad
>>89436960>basically all the comfy early day period of hololiveYou mean like their first 6 months?
>>89437030Can you cross out the SC reading next thread?
>>89436960What is wrong with them chasing their dreams? They want to do it and they went for it. Good on them.
>>89437149Idols are always supposed to place their fans first. The fans are the ones who helped push them to be as successful as they are in the first place.
I wanted them to be like Koyori but in English and with more incest
>>89437217So Suisei is not an idol then?
>>89437217It makes sense when you realize they don't consider EN Ruffians true fans. So to them whatever happens now doesn't really matter because it's all for the JP fans that will actually attend their sololive. They're planning on spending the rest of their lives in Japan
>>89437289No.
>>89437341And Marine isn't an idol?
This is karma for ruffians shitting on Promise at debut. You all deserve it
>>89437289Why do ruffians always deflect?
their current "fans" are weirdos snakes and schizos like nae tekzi pissnix agri so why would they care about them long term? They are speedrunning the destination because they want to spend as little time as possible with these creeps before they get too attached
>>89437341Your opinion is worthless then.
>>89437304I just find it telling how they haven’t cancelled any JP streams to this day.
>>89437427kek we can't stop winning and your seethe is palpable
I know brats used to come here became they’d actually defend Bae but I wonder what they think about the antis that use her as a weapon here.
>>89437217Irrefutable.
>>89437486is no streams in days "winning"?
People always ask why the fuck I stuck around when we have civil conversations here, and it's weeks like this and last that keep me coming back. The cancellation isn't that big a deal, but I'll say that when they talked about cutting stream time down I didn't expect them to be cutting down on what I wanted to see, the games they said they liked playing. My cope was that 1m would be the turning point and that they would taper back on all the random trash and start picking back up on VN and retro more and pushing the horror walking sims to the wayside, relegated to the 'once a month at best' slot. Instead the reverse happened. I can onoy hope that these last 2 weeks are an indication of a change again and that they will do one of those streams once a week.
No normal fan should be double digit retweeted by a fucking hololive talent. Someone in management needs to sit them down and tell them to knock it off
>>89437427>This is karma for ruffians shitting on Promise at debut. You all deserve itStream hours in November:FWMC 24 hrsFauna 21 hrsBae 18 hrsKronii 17 hrsIRyS 17 hrsMumei 0 hrs草草草
I knew ruffians began slowly losing interest in FWMC when they stopped calling them princesses and didn’t post in the hashtag as much as they used to. The love is fading.
>>89437516you realize that reply makes you that much more obvious
>>89437554It's fine if it's justified. But shoddily made 1.5 second long trash """clips""" are junk.
are the menhera people even real?
>>89437586now subtract superchat reading
>>89437641That's what I mean. If you're making any content of value you are an artist or clipper and that's worthy of retweets for quality. A random fan making what amount to shitty soundposts /here/ on Twitter is not worth attention. It's as bad as nerissa following that anti yet no one ever gives fuwamoco any shit for it
>>89437613The only one who uses it consistently has always been the ex-tako.
>>89437641>>89437708They do it because sobbi loves those retards and fill their feed with it. If it's so easy spam clips of your own
Since Donkey Kong on September 10th>Ruffians…>Moco-chan has developed a migraine and has been battling it all night, but it hasn’t gotten any better so it might be best if we put a pause on Donkey Kong Country 2 for today…>We’re really sorry!! We will go bananas together next week!>For Ruffians who weren’t able to join us earlier, there won’t be a #FWMCMORNING tomorrow like we had planned! We have an important rehearsal that we can’t miss…>We’ll see you on Monday morning and have more fun together through the weekend though!! BAU BAUー!!>We’re so sorry, Ruffians!! We have to postpone today’s Rock N’ Rawr Party… We were all really looking forward to it… bau bau… ⤵⤵ We’re sorry to disappoint you!>We’ll see you tomorrow and update you with our schedule for next week then!>Hi Ruffians!! We're sorry, it looks like we'll have to postpone the stream due to server instability! We hope you can join us next time!! BAU BAUー!!>Well, Ruffians… Mane-chan says we need to get some rest for our barkers, so we’ll have to reschedule our Voice Mimicry Show stream until next week! bau bau…>ごめんなさい、声マネキングの配信は来週まで延期になりました… 声をいっぱい休むね!We hope you can join us then!>Ruffians!! There’s been a sudden change of plans, and we won’t be able to play 7D2D tonight or tomorrow… There’s something special going on that we need to prepare our hearts for…?!>We’ll see you next for #FWMCMORNING!! >BAU BAUー!!>>Hi Ruffians! Our barkers are feeling really ruff today, so we’re going to start any hour later so that we can still fight during the raid!!>Ruffians, we’re so sorry but we’ll need to cancel today’s streams! bau bau… ⤵⤵ Moco-chan woke up to having no voice… We’ll make sure to get lots of rest today and keep you updated on the situation!>Thank you, and sorry for disappointing you, Ruffians…!!>Moco-chan’s barker still isn’t doing well, so we’re going to rest to make sure we’re good for our recordings and 3D collab later this week!>For now, our next #FWMCMORNING and 7 Days to Die stream will be postponed! We’re sorry for the changes, Ruffians! bau bau… ⤵⤵>We really really really wanted to do FUWAMOCO MORNING today (there is so much we want to talk about!!), but we think it’s best that we rest up instead… ⤵⤵>We’ll make sure to heal up before our 3D collab on Saturday!! BAU BAUー!!>Looks like the big race is canceled for today… bau bau… ⤵⤵>We’ll see you again soon, Ruffians!! BAU BAUー!!>For any Ruffians who didn’t join us for the Haunted Investigation, because of technical issues causing the delay in start time, we’ll have to reschedule our own Halloween stream for another day in November…>We hope that you’ll save some candy for us!! BAU BAUー!!>Ruffians!! We’re trying to finish up some important stuff quickly while out and about, but it’s going much longer than we planned… Please wait for us!!>Things are not going any faster… bau bau… ⤵⤵ If we’re not live in 30 minutes, we’ll have to postpone the stream to another day!! We don’t want to keep you waiting any longer, Ruffians…>We’re sorry for the trouble!! Why do things have to be so complicated… ⤵⤵>We’re still not back… bau bau… ⤵⤵>We were really looking forward to seeing you today, Ruffians… Today’s stream will have to be postponed…!>We’ll see you next for Suisei-senpai’s concert watchalong over on Calli-senpai’s channel!! BAU BAU〜!!There has been 9 weeks since then. They have been averaging more than one cancellation a week since early September
>>89437649Some are real, I can feel it in their posts. Some Ruffians are just worried about the direction they’re going. Most of the namedropping and related posts are disingenuous though.
Ruffians we're playing WoW Classic Classic with Papa Puppy
>>89437692>now subtract superchat readingYou do realize they did not read much supers right? But here you go.Stream hours in November:FWMC 24(21 without SC) hrsFauna 21 hrsBae 18 hrsKronii 17 hrsIRyS 17 hrsMumei 0 hrs草草草
>>89437786kys pissnix you're a creepy groomer
>>89437708>A random fan making what amount to shitty soundposts /here/ on Twitter is not worth attentionSome of you are fucking dumb. Shitty soundposts are the type that go viral on twitter.
>>89437289But her fans WANT her to do what she's doing right now. At most they miss more frequent gaming streams but that's about it.
Can someone just message these retards clippers and tell them to do better because they're embarrassing everyone including fwmc with the low effort shit. I suppose it reflects how little they care about their fans anyways recently
this thread needs healing sex with fluffy
Ruffians are so fucking insufferable. Not a single one of you has ever made good post. Fucking hell this is the worst general on this board, and it's not even close.
>>89437975Why do they care so much about going viral? They should encourage quality and have some self respect. Reducing themselves to shit out of context noises and retarded babble is destroying their brand
>>89438053*farts*
>>89438070Are you retarded? Raden got retweeted by Google Japan because she went viral with her gulu gulu shit.
>>89438053you got lost global twanny
>>89438070Thank God retards like you have no influence on them. They got to 1 million in nearly record time doing it their way and you've just spent that time crying about your fucking boyfriends /here/
>>89437902I guess my hunch is right. They got maligned for their streaming hours when it is pretty much more or less around the median.
>https://x.com/SowB__/status/1856661352003060098>SowB>Sobbihmm...
They are going to bed without another tweet because they're ashamed of canceling a stream
>>89438053I used to have fun here chatting about streams, and still do when I give a shit about the stream. Even during the move I used to shit on people here who would shitpost against them. I just stopped caring about defending them and just post whatever I feel like. If I'm annoyed with something they did, I'll talk shit. If I like something they did or enjoyed a stream, I'll praise them.
>>89437586>He's seriously counting both Minecraft streams
>subtract FWMCMORNING>subtract SC reading>subtract JST streams>subtract streams "ruffians" don't likesisters have to reach so hard it's embarrassing
>>89438333>subtract FWMC Mornings>subtract SC readingslooks like FUWAMOCO are doing that themselves KEKAROO
>>89438305People like you made this board fucking terrible.
FWMC fell off.
>>89438401I think there are much worse “people” standing right beside you right now, my friend.
>>89438401Wah wah, cry me a river. I'll be happy with the Lethal Company stream, MC, and Fate and your faggot ass will talk to me about how fun the stream is. It doesn't mean shit.
Why did no one tell phoenix why he is a fag spammer in new york?
>>89438436they're in their training arc, best days are still ahead of them
>>89438053This. The first few months of /baubau/ were great, but fast forward to today and this dogshit thread talks more about their twitter and discord boyfriends more than it does about FUWAMOCO and streams. I fucking hate it so much. I wish we could make that shit bannable.
>>89438436There was a new ruffian the other day who joined because of their performance at BD. He actually seem pretty happy and satisfied.
>>89438477because all the worst posters /here/ are poorfags that can't afford to travel
>>89438477do your best to learn English
>>89438740I'm going to Japan personally to make sure they drop fuwamoco after FES.
Personally, I knew something was wrong when I began to feel comfortable skipping streams.
>>89438802Not really. This is actually a good thing. A bunch of people went psychos because they think they have to be there for every fucking stream.
>>89438802FWMC Morning is the worst content they make these days, I'm so glad I skip them now. That trophy would go to their super chat readings, but listening to them read the same pay piggie names over and over every stream with zero interesting tangents about their personal lives doesn't even qualify as content.
>>89438802That's a positive in the long run. They weren't ever going to be there for the rest of your life so it's healthy to view them as entertainment when you want it not a personal obligation. They won't ever change their lives to help or support you so it's insane to do that for them
>>89438665I love doggy god street. That was a great performance.
>>89438620>this dogshit thread talks more about their twitter and discord boyfriends more than it does about FUWAMOCO and streams.I'd talk about streams if there were any.
Wuffians... You shouldn't be mean to other wuffians
>>89438620Honestly, it isn't as bad now. It was super annoying when there was that one retard constantly spamming crap about Fuwawa.
>>89439254I'm only mean to monsters with my hammer
>>89439254They're the one putting targets on ruffians backs by showing such favoritism and making it a competition for attention. someone will get hurt with how menhera people are getting
>>89438000Can I sub the Fluffy for Fuzzy instead?
>>89439402Why would you ever wanna do that? Mococo is not sexy. Fuwawa is.
>>89439368Odd. I never see people complain about koui and markchen. Almost as if you have a vendetta against someone.
>>89439402if you try to have sex with Mococo she pops like a balloon
>>89439368>someone will get hurt with how menhera people are gettingThat's on you, not them. You fucking autist.
Ruffians, you don't actually love Fuwawa, right? You know she's evil, right?
>>89439485>Implying there is a single Ruffian ITT who can speak Japaneserorurumao
>>89439543i wuv her actually
>>89439480But I find her sexy though >>89439489Neat time to fill her up and watch her go boom
>>89438620To be fair, an audience doesn't arise in a vacuum. FUWAMOCO has caused their viewerbase to be this way. The reality is, their twitter habits are actually quite different from any other hololive talents. Their thorough egosa + usage of likes to show it, as well as their willingness to retweet a single person 5+ times in a single day. With such bizarre practices, it's no wonder twitter has been a central part of the entire journey so far. It really stands out and attracts a certain type of person.
>>89439485They put effort into translating and connecting their content to the JP audience. Their respective has been earned. >>89439531I'm not the one retweeting the same trash over and over on a hololive account. Not even phase or indies retweet the same two fans as much as these retards do
>>89439485Those guys don't actively brag about their success for the sole express purpose of making other viewers feel like shit.
>>89439639>The reality is, their twitter habits are actually quite different from any other hololive talents.Wtf are you even talking about? Maddie has gotten 20 replies from Nerissa in a day before.
>>89439543>this thing>evil
>>89439254*retweets the biggest asshole in the entire community*
>>89439723That looks like a fluffy menace alright
>>89438391lmao
>>89439718And? Maddie is a cute girl, pissnix and tekzi are disgusting snake twinks
>>89439650>I'm not the one retweeting the same trash over and over on a hololive account. Not even phase or indies retweet the same two fans as much as these retards doCorrect, because you're the one bitching about it when you could instead spend your time learning a skill in video editing so you could get those retweets instead. You're literally crying about SELF ADVERTISING. Fucking retard. Phase/indies/literal whos don't get clips because no one watches them retard.
>>89439718At least I wouldn't have to pay Nerissa money to wish me happy birthday or give me encouraging words.
You don't mind buying more of our $40 voice packs do you Ruffians?!
>>89439891NTA but I can already tell you the response will be: There are half a dozen other active ruffian clippers aside from the "main" two, some of which are quite skilled editors, and FUWAMOCO are evidently not as interested in engaging with them.
>>89439891I have more pride in myself and FuwaMoco than posting shit that looks like it's edited on a phone by a high school kid. There aren't even subtitles or any content. It's borderline TikTok meme shit but even worse because it's 2 seconds tops
https://gofile.io/d/hULxMPListen to the voicepacks
I'm going to raffle more ASMR voice packs
>>89440015Clearly you don't, since you're crying about it /here/ instead of working on high quality clips.
>>89439979I refuse
They should join Lamy's fitness competition
All this minecraft journeying just for more enreco slop.
>>89439718Nerissa engages with 90+% of tweets about her whereas the dogs randomly like 1 in 20 tweets about them but heavily retweet a select few accounts. There are artists out there with near 100% of their works retweeted by them. It's very unusual.
>>89439979>buying more>implying I bought the first onesI pirated them all and will continue to do so in the future
>>89440062But then my coworkers will hear them too.I can't be subjecting them to stuff like that.
>>89439543I seem to have a thing for evil women
>>89440062Do you have any more of Bae's?
>>89438620It is bannable, tranny jannies just refuse to enforce it in this thread
>>89440202Retard. You have literally no idea how many likes they send out now, or to who (outside of self-reports). Shit is literally hidden. This rrat no longer works.
>>89439845>Maddie is a cute girlShe's a disgusting bong lesbian, and has the gross bog phenotype to back it up.
>>89440015They retweeted shirudo's star wars clip on twitter before. It was really well-done, and hit 8k likes. Meanwhile, a viral t***i's clip can hit 15k.
>>89439891What about monsters inc? the fluffian? the countless others posting on #lilfwmc that are passed over daily for pissnix posting some untagged bullshit that they retweet instantly and even make a tweet about. if they aren't going to stop management needs to step in and stop it and block him
>>89440015A lot of that garbage gets 10,000+ likes. Either embrace the meta or stop complaining.>>89440082FWMC don't retweet high effort clips because of the above. Those clips just aren't in fashion right now.
>>89438620https://www.4chan.org/janitorapp
>>89440062why is there a bae vp randomly thrown in the mix
>>89439845Maddie looks like a dude.
>>89440230>I can't be subjecting them to stuff like that.I know the dogs make terrible voice packs but you don't have to go and say it so openly like that. Jesus christ anon, have some tact.
I mean, think about the kind of person that spends all day in a thread about women that play games as dog girls even when they haven't streamed in days. What do you expect the discourse to be like?
>>89440380Because Bae is a whore and enjoys being passed around
>>89440292Well I can tell you that they haven't been liking my stuff but a quick throwaway shit clip always gets one and even an rt
>>89440202>>89440416>the dogsBe more subtle next time.
>>89440410Have you seen her tits? Who stares into someone's face when you're masturbating to them?
>>89437030
>>89440528>Have you seen her tits?No. Post them.
>>89440458So you are just jealous others get a RT and you don't?
>>89440458>The noomber puppies only engage with noombers.How are you only just *now* learning this?
>>89440327Irrefutable
>>89440470More subtle? I'm openly criticizing them, you think I'm going to refer to the mutts with respect?
>>89440568Considering how low effort and garbage their stuff is, yes I think they should cease giving them that much attention
can't believe I have to watch non holo vtubers for my fix.
>>89440327>>89440575
>>89440575NTA but my clips have gotten actual noombers and they’ve never liked them. It’s a FWMC3D situation where they don’t look at the hashtag.
>>89440568It's not jealousy. I don't engage with FWMC at all, no comments no chatting no replies no nothing. Yet even I get menhera at the thought that they might play favourites, because it would mean they aren't the nice people I thought they were.
>>89440470Irrefutable
>>89440680They liked my 3D tagged tweet. No likes for the 1 million tagged ones and I saw people posting huge Ws for multiple tweets. Sometimes it's like that. I don't see the point in seething about something so irrelevant.
>>89440686That has nothing to do with them and everything to do with you just simply being a menhera fag LMFAO
>>89440750I’m not seething, I’m just saying not even numbers can get their attention.
>>89440575This is true, but some other ruffians might start getting noombers if FWMC would engage with them a bit and kickstart the algorithm. That shit doesn't switch on by itself.
>>89440795Sure, but you said they don't look at the tag just because they didn't like yours, that's not real evidence. People say the same about helpFWMC and the tracer posted a huge W on his helpFWMC tweet about a new VN coming out.You need to think way too highly of yourself to assume you not getting a like must mean they don't check the tag at all.
>>89440564https://x.com/PROMlNENCES/status/1850480391083188726https://x.com/PROMlNENCES/status/1596671225232760832
>>89440944
>>89440944>the conservative party is actually the communist party just like in europe
>>89440925I saw these at BD and they weren't too good. The Nerissa cosplayer though.
>>89440925anon those are prosthetics...
>>89440575They used to look at hashtags more, now they mostly stick to their lazy "For You" page and just like and rt what's on there for the most part.And that's a self-fulfilling prophecy and loop because the more of their shit they like there the more of it they will see in their For You, leading to them to like even more of it and so on.This is the issue.
It's so weird to see a bunch of grown men willingly using a word created to mock japanese women and their first world women problems to describe themselves and thinking it's anyone else's fault but their own for being massive faggots.It's like "cloudy feelings", it's cute when they use it, not when a fat balding old man does. Stop talking like women. You're not "menhera", you're just a faggot.
>>89441046Don't hate the player, hate the game. You wanna get in the algo? Play the game.
>>89440575>The noomber puppies only engage with noombers.Yes but also no. You need to be able to catch their attention.
>>89441057This post gave me foggy feelings
>>89440900You're assuming they saw that by looking at helpFWMC specifically, or they saw your tweet by looking at the tag. A tag being in the tweet does not mean they found the tweet via the tag. The tracer is a good example, because they've liked him hundreds of times by now, so he undoubtedly shows up in their For You. The majority of their retweeted clips are untagged, and conversely, the overwhelming majority of the tagged clips are ignored. We can never know for sure but it seems pretty fucking clear they don't look at the tags on any reliable basis.
>>89441057This post was written by someone who's a bit ruff around the edges. Are you dealing with some cloudy feelings yourself? I'd suggest getting that checked out by the dogtor to see what he has to say about that. It'd protect my smile to see you doing your best. BAU BAU!
day 1 ruffian here and i just cancelled my membership
>>89441157I'll make your throat foggy with my semen, Mokoko
>>89441182Good, you're better off for it.
My preferred twitter usage for a holo is for them to use it for schedules, replying to other holos and retweeting some good fan art for 10 mins a day and that's it.Bonus: Not wasting 3 hours of time you could spend sleeping on twitter
>>89441197Is that why Moco-chan becomes froggy?
>>89441170Whenever they retweet a tagged clip, it's exactly in the same style of the untagged ones they RT. Some of them are even by the same people they RT untagged tweets from.Like that David anon or whatever, started clipping a month ago and already got two or three RTs, he does them in the same way the other people they RT do, cropped, super short, just a cute noise. They prefer RTing this, effort stuff they'd rather see on youtube because those are feeding a different audience.
>>89441180>t. menhera Ruffian who was crying he isn't getting likes on twitter 30 seconds ago
I just want to know what pissnix and tekzi have against using the fucking tags. The Hungarian was the same way. Do the tags hide stuff in the algorithms? what is the fucking reason
>>89441329Proof?
>>89441349It's a bigger W to show people they see you without a tag
>>89441349It's unironically for bragging rights. They see an untagged tweet = either they went to your profile or you're in their For You, either way is a HUUUUUUUUGE W
I unironically miss season one of FUWAMOCO.
>>89441271this is the optimal twitter usage for a holohttps://x.com/fubuchandayo
>>89441467Everyone does,and the ones who don't are liars.
>>89441271This anon beat me to it >>89441517You're retarded and don't know how to use twitter correctly if you think 2 posts a day is sufficient.
>>89441467just watch justice, then. most of them are streaming daily and ccgg basically have twin-tier banter
Would it be autistic of me to SC FWMC letting them know this place exists?
If you had to explain the fuwamoco seasons as wow xpacs, from when to when were they and which xpac are we on by now?
>>89441349Do you really want the #lilFWMC hashtag filled with 50 2 second clips a day? Someone asked them thus before on cliquecord and it sounded like an etiquette thing to keep low effort stuff off the tag so ones with subs and edits could be easier to find. I don't know if that's true
>>89441613No, but you're gonna paint yourself as a retarded faggot. Plus they're already /here/
>>89441613Yes. Fucking retard.
>>89441615Dunno, but I'm hype for playing classic fresh next week. Feels good to have something to play while I watch streams.
>>89441615WoW is dogshit. Why would we ever do that.
>>89441680>>89441687I'll just tell them there's a place ruffians anonymously gather on 4chan to talk about them. If they're already /here/ it's no big deal, but if they aren't, it'll pique their interests. I'm gonna do it.
>>89441613they already fucking know and browse here retard. Your BR dumbass thinks it's funny to containment break but instead you should kill yourself
>>89441534Liars and people trying to demoralize Ruffians by saying everything is fine and anyone who says they've regressed is an Anti.
If they were here they would have long since realized what they are doing and stopped this insane bias and favoritism because people complain about it every single thread
>>89441637Dumb reason IMO. It's FWMC's hashtag, why not fill it with the stuff they obviously like? And that everyone else clearly likes too?
>>89441613Everyone in the company, at the very least, knows this place exists. It's impossible not to.
>>89441637Go rope yourself fagg you know it's all ego. hashtags exist to be used you're part of the problem.
>>89441748I'm not brazilian. And again if they're /here/ then it's no harm no foul.
>>89441587I started watching FWMC to get away from western twitch humor
>>89441836fr fr, you're so real for that, it's what I been yappin' too. Anyway I'm eepy now and not feeling so demure, gotta rizz up some gyatts tomorrowskibidi!
They know this place exists but I increasingly doubt they read it. There have been times when the thread has been absolutely nuclear but they showed up to stream and were in a great mood. Even if they don't agree with the whining here, it would at least make them sad or self-conscious.
>>89441467That is because you see solo streams as the main and stuff outside that as a cherry on top. They clearly stated they want to do more beyond streaming games. It is fine to move on and find another chuuba if you disagree with this direction.
>>89441517Based and correct, EOP newfags need not reply.
>>89441807I don't know I'm not them that's just what i was told when I asked the same thing. They're the top clippers so who are we to argue even if it's retarded. all those clips will be lost and buried if they aren't on the hashstag
testing soundposts to see if I'm a retard or if I did it right
>>89441946There is LITERALLY zero(0) reason for ANY holo to come /here/. Exactly zero important constructive criticism gets posted here (and any example you could possibly think of has already been posted on twitter). This entire board is drama queens gossiping and throwing shit at each other. Literally nothing important happens here, nor has it ever, not WILL it ever. /vt/ is completely and utterly useless for a holo.
Every hour spent scrolling twitter is an hour they could do literally anything else, which would be betterEven just sleeping or cleaning their room or doing a space or recording something or calling mama puppy or reading a manga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeIGZVXPPa4Nice description
it's pretty funny how they dropped jp streams the moment they hit million they can be ruthless sometimes
>>89442221I disagree, you can find good criticism here, but the problem is you'd have to be a regular to know how to tell what's genuine from all the bullshit. No new tourist would comprehend that.
>>89442249Hilarious you say this when you waste the same amount of time /here/ of all places.
>>89442249Which is why shitzki pissnix and sobbi are their biggest antis. they keep distracting fuwamoco from the prize
>>89442319there hasn't been good criticism here for months
>>89442221Just knowing this is a place where people anonymously go to talk about them would be enough to come here.
>>89442371There has, it just gets hidden under a pile of shit in every thread
>>89442221There are occasional useful pieces of info, like for example, I truly believe they'd cut off tekzi for a while if they saw some of the discord screenshots posted here. But overall I agree. The only viewers that matter are the ~30 or so gachikoi, and the 999,999 casuals. In between there are like 50 miserable menhera, and those are what you see here.
>>89442411no there hasn't. the closest thing is that enreco audio was shit and people told them in every VOD comment
>>89442411And they can find the exact same criticisms without any of the shit on twitter. That's the entire point.
>>89442326I'm not a holo, so I don't really get your comparison.Also I literally just ate food and am now gonna play a game
>>89442471Ruffians are yesmen everywhere else.
>>89442326He's not a holo streamer
>>89442471To some degree. It would be worded much more carefully and gentle there.
>>89442471I don't see anyone calling out the favoritism or snake shit from the people they keep giving a platform to. everyone too scared
>>89442203Oh it's a Ruffian...Unfathomably baused SMTIV post. Make sure you bring more Mocopan next time!
>>89442522So what exactly is the reason to come here again? 99% loops by antis and 1% legitimate complaints which are public anyway but with different language. It's even a bigger waste of time than Twitter doomscrolling.
>>89442258Well, it's also out of consideration. There's nothing coming up for any new japanese fan to look forward to at the moment, no point in doing a random relaxed stream only so any new fans have to wait months for the next one. If they wait until something like the birthday live, at least there's something really cool in the near future for any new JP fan to look forward to. If there's a new big server GTA style in the future maybe they could do JP streams in the lead up to it too.
>>89442577literally no one cares but (you) and the sisters using that loop
>>89442599I didn't say they should come here, I disagreed with there never having been good criticism here
>>89442577>I don't see anyone calling out MY HEADCANON or MY OTHER HEADCANONYeah, I wonder why
>>89442660>>89442692So you think it's ok for a talent in hololive to retweet the same fan 40 to 50 times?
>>89442444There's a lot more gachikoi than the loudest ones you know by name. Not trying to imply it's a silent majority or anything, but you have to consider people who just watch in silence. If JP chuubas have around 10 or so EOP gachikoi who only talk about them /here/ and never post anything in chat, I'm sure they have at least a couple dozen more that nobody notices.
>>89442692Fuwamoco's favoritism has been proven time and time again. You just refuse to believe it.
>>89442717Yes.
>>89442717Yes. Because I'm not a fucking menhera like you and the thought to complain about it unprompted has never even crossed my mind.
>>89442692>headcanonWhat's the point of acting like it isn't true?Both of the following are literally objectively true>very few people get rt'd constantly for every single shit they do now>one of them at the minimum is an actual snake who talks shit about them behind their back but acts all "oh nice I love it!" when talking to them in a comment or reply
>>89442743Irrefutable.
>>89442779Then you're a pathetic cuck yesman that's OK letting them destroy their careers and all they've worked for just to make a handful of attention whores temporarily happy. pissnix will be gone soon no one like that ever stays around for long and they'll have alienated everyone for nothing
>>89442577People aren't scared of shit. Just look at the replies to the voice pack post saying they disgust them because of the parasocialism aspect.No one is "calling them out" over Twitter retweets because no one cares except for the ONE mentally ill schizo camping this thread and the sisters replying to it (and each other).
>>89442471Nobody even complains on Twitter, it's nothing but yesmen there. Whenever they cancel a stream its "ITS OKAY WE KNOW YOU'RE DOING YOUR BEST" instead of "Hey you know you've been canceling at least 1 stream a week since September, maybe you should organize yourselves". Nobody talks about how they don't read SCs anymore at the end of streams or how every stream seems to be hard capped at 2 hours or how they don't finish any games, or how a lot of streams are shitty one off kusoge.
>>89442851And how is that gonna happen, exactly? Do give me the reandown of how retweeting a fan will lead to the destruction of their careers, Oh All-Knowing Niggus Faggotus.
>>89442866>People aren't scared of shitTheir regulars are. All of them are yesmen. The only time those fags ever stood up against anything FWMC did was after battle plan 2 and that was only because a lot of other people were doing it.
>>89442717Clips? Yes. When FWMC retweet a clip, they're retweeting themselves. And if the clipper thinks FWMC are in love with him, it's no skin off my nose.
>>89442851>retweeting clips of your own content is actually DESTROYING your career because....IT JUST IS OKAYI genuinely cannot fathom being retarded enough to believe this. Exactly zero people who matter give a shit that they retweet the same clipper often.
>>89442866You are completely delusional.
>>89442961>Exactly zero people who matter give a shit that they retweet the same clipper often.You are delusional. Fuck off, retard.
>>89442900>Nobody complains about shit that doesn't matterWow, what a revelation.Speaking of revelations, when they asked what people thought of ENreco, they sure didn't get a 99% positive result on the poll.
>>89442993Look in a mirror LMFAO
>>89442866Kekaroo what's it like to deny the world around you?
You are arguing with people who never want to see FUWAMOCO improve because they are falseflagging antis posing as fans. They want FUWAMOCO's content to get worse and they want you to leave.
>>89443092>t. anon who is actively denying the world around him
>>89442594I was honestly starting to think I was the only one left with how things have been going today I've wanted to replay IV lately even while I'm still playing Vengeance
>>89443093Of course. Yescucks believe FWMC are already perfect even though FWMC themselves have said they aren't. This is why everyone else laughs at them.
Is this the Rushia thread?
>>89443093The things they work on behind the scenes are their best content and always will be. The people wanting to keep them down are the people who only care about gaming streams.
>>89442962>>89443092>1 year members have no problem criticizing voice packs>but favoritism? every ruffian hates it but is too scared to tell themcomplete mental illness
>>89443093You still haven't explained how FWMC retweeting clips of themselves is ruining their careers/making them worse.
>>89443025>>89443129>no u
>>89442915Because they're giving these dangerous schizos a bigger platform. Since the retweets started they've both gained 1 to 2k followers and exponentially growing meaning more people are seeing everything they post and looking up to them as unironic pillars of the ruffian community. So if asshats like tekzi start saying the crap he says on discord publicly on Twitter like the wrestling being fake people/retards will think it's real. Just like people believed itta's lie that ruffians were licking the mister donut seats. And those weren't even full on anti incidents. Imagine one of these retards goes off the rails and scorched earth blasts hate propaganda against fuwamoco that goes into every single ruffians for you because fuwamoco kept boosting them in the algorithm. do you see now how it's dangerous to consolidate attention and power into pnly a few fragile menheras?
>>89443221>The things they work on behind the scenes are their best content and always will be.No they aren't lmao
>>89443247You are an actual imbecile, your IQ is genuinely too low to have proper discussions, don't reply to me ever again. Go eat your bugs.
>>89443233Must suck knowing you have to fight against reality every single day to keep up your mental retardation. I do not envy you.
>>89443225I'm one of them. I'm not gonna go and lockwhite on them over this, but it does bother me.Talking about vps or enreco is different as they brought it up to begin with and wanted our opinions.
>>89443247He will have no counterargument to this.
FWMC would never take this place serious with how /pol/ infested it is
>>89437586Here's the full thing if anyone is interestedBijou 62 hrsRaora 36 hrsCalliope 33 hrsKiara 29 hrsERB 27 hrsNerissa 25 hrsFWMC 24 hrsShiori 20 hrsBae 18 hrsKronii 17 hrsCecilia 17 hrsIRyS 17 hrsMumei 0 hrsGura 0 hrs
>>89443247none of that had even smallest impact on their career
>>89443267Sorry you grew up with Twitch as your nanny, but gaming streams do not matter. They're filler between the things that actually matter. Spending time with them is great, but the game being played is not that relevant. I do have some games I wish they streamed too, I do have gaming streams I like more than others, but ultimately their 3D debut is worth more than every single gaming stream combined.If I have to choose between singing and dancing only or gaming only, I'm sure as hell never picking gaming. Both is best, though, for sure. So thankfully I'm getting just that.
>>89443430Their fans are what's suppose to matter, but FWMC cast them aside.
>>89443395Is Justice gearing up for 3D already or are they always around that much? Not saying it's bad or anything, if anything going by how much people complain that they don't have as much free time nowadays in this thread, it's better to keep expectations reasonable from the start.
>>89443395that rock girl ain't right I tell you
>>89443395Sad.
>>89443395Biboo is crazy
>>89443247Ah, so your entire argument is "I'M SCARED OF MY MADE UP HEADCANON POSSIBILITY OF THE FUTURE", just like it always is.Also, the seat licking thing was fucking hilarious. You're just too fragile to take a joke.
>>89443395Sasuga face of Advent
>>89443093Let’s put it this way. I was unsure during the summer break but they now have my full support after their 3D debut and BD. I am fine with them stagnating as streamers while trying to improve their singing, dancing and collab skills.
>>89443395SC and merch revenue are what matter and FWMC are better than every single one of them
>>89443342/here/ genuinely believes that FWMC have some vendetta against the gays/trans.
>>89443395missed Da Fister @ 29 hrs
>>89443501Too crazy for me, unfortunately. I would need 2 to 3 days to catch up with one day of her content. It's just impossible. She seems great from the collabs.
>>89443395Am I blind? Where is Gigi?
>>89443610see >>89443580
>>89443610FWMC don't acknowledge GG so we don't either
If I may interrupt the shitposting, here is their new kouhai talking about how cute they are (singing BBBB)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFl_IuladgQ&t=2288s
>>89443481Not yet. Justice hasn’t even hit the 6 months period. They will probably all head to Japan next April.
>>89443662Thank you, I saw someone bringing it up earlier but couldn't check at the time. This woman's live singing was really good when I checked all the utawakus from flowglow. Probably their best live singer.
>>89443662
>>89443508>Also, the seat licking thing was fucking hilarious. I see now there's no point reasoning with you because you're part of the problem. To this day casuals still think it's true. Fuwamoco even made a tweet after it went viral trying to reassure everyone ruffians were on their best behavior. I bet they just loved having their name slandered and their fans associates with a negative part of their favorite place in the world because a retard fan wanted to get Twitter likes
>>89443713Makes sense to wait until after fes if they're not debuting their 3Ds there, yeah. Also gives everyone else some much needed rest if they want to take it while Justice gets the spotlight.
>>89443662Kinda cool they are getting shout outs for their singing.
>>89443747you know what a lot more casuals believe? that FWMC were unprofessional and should have shilled holostars. do tell me how much that hurt their careers.hungarian had a meltdown on main after getting a shitload of RTs from them, they stopped RTing him, nobody talks about him. how exactly did that hurt their careers?you keep making shit up
>>89443756yeah theres absolutely no way they're debuting their 3D in fes, but some of justice might already be there in japan during fes time and then RIP streams for them for a while
>>89443228I'm not that guy. I don't give a fuck about favoritism rrats and most likely it's another Anti trying to drive people away.
>>89443828>that FWMC were unprofessionalThey were.
>>89443395Where is ina?
>>89443868quite the opposite, sticking to their principles even against the official channel's wishes and getting zero repercussions for it shows they were completely in the right and the company either agreed to them doing this prior to the stream or recognized they were in the wrong.
>>89443900Ina zero too unless you count videos / premieres as streams
If you aren't getting likes, do better
>>89443900Ina is also 0 hours
>>89443828The Hungarian is an example of how it should be handled. Tekzi and others have said worse than him just not on twitter.
>>89443960They did get repercussions for it. Most people stay away from them now save for the select few lonely gachikoi who have nowhere else to go.
>>89443975I still think 90% of the people baiting menhera about likeschizo shit are the same ones replying pretending to care. There's no way more than a couple of people actually give a shit.
>>89443997and the moment they do they will be dropped and forgotten. no damage will happen to FWMC's career. that's my main point, the "destroying their career" bullshit is insane. if you just think they shouldn't give him attention whatever, not interested in discussing that, I just think it's delusional to think their careers are at risk.
>>89444034Ruffians are just that insane. There's a reason why this place serves as a containment thread of sorts.
>>89444032not even literal trannies stayed away, did you not see the girl ruffian community post? you lost, nobody actually gives a shit. only full time tweeters care, not even people who actually watch holostars give a shit.
>>89444034Are you in cliquecord? There are genuine likeschizos and readschizos saying it with their mains
I've seen what the rest of /vt/ is like, you're not fooling anyone, retard.
>>89444170Must be why FWMC are so maligned on this board and basically everywhere else. No one watches them.
>>89444151If it was a containment thread it wouldn't be so frequently raided. I do believe our worst shitposters are homegrown, I'm not pretending the thread is only bad because of outsiders, but it's precisely because the worst are our own that it's extremely obvious whenever it's getting raided.
when will she take off her pants for fuwawa
Shut the fuck up all of youMy princess tweeted
>>89444034I'm going to quote myself again just to say that I'm always right. I have never been wrong. And I am continuously proven correct every single day. I hate every single one of you /here/ >>89438053
You guys should chill out and play some mahjong while waiting for the watchalong later
>>89444201Unfortunatley I can agree. It wasn't always this bad. I'd say around mid/late 2021 it was still mostly fun. 2022 onwards it went to complete shit and never recovered.That old adage of pretending to be retarded and inviting actual retards thinking they're in good company proved itself true once again. Funposting became spiteful and unironic, and everything went to shit.
>>89444312It took this long for someone to mention it, totally real Ruffians in here btw
No one even care when mococo just tweeted. Anti general.
>>89444356>tweet has japanesecouldn't care less
>>89444356This bread was literally baked by a sister.
>>89444200I don't use discord, but from what people keep talking about here, it seems like it's 3 people specifically who do this. I'm assuming they have at least 50 members? It's in line with my assumption. A couple of retards care, but it would be a few posts with no replies if not for the shitposters replying to themselves pretending to care.It was really funny on the first couple of days after the anti-spam measure when we got super slow threads and you'd see a single retard who actually internalized the shitposting as "board culture" trying to start a loop and getting zero replies.
>>89443137I check around for stuff here, or see if there were any games Ruffians were looking to play. Been meaning to play both parts of SMTIV since I found my 3DS but going through the new Mana game and soon with the DQ3 remake.
claimed
>>89444354>>89444356Neither of you said anything either. Don't shit where you eat.
>>89444356>All the real ruffians left and it's just antis and trolls fighting each other here nowPretty sad. I'm closing the thread, see you in a few days.
>>89444324Depends where you were. Kiara's general was sometimes as bad as this place, sometimes even worse when Orcschizo and egg were going at it together, not to mention she'd have 5-10 threads up at any given time on the catalogue shitting on her
>>89444449Oh no no no no pero you shitter
Likes going out on the replies. Buckle up.
>>89443714I think their best singing is probably Niko but Chihaya is very good too
>>89444312You can tell when it's a raid when no one posts about tweets>>89444324I don't know about /vt/ before Advent, but it looks just as bad or worse depending on the thread. /hlgg/ is usually rampant with various antis and the catalog is just Twitter posts saying X will graduate in 2 weeks (this time for sure). As far as 4chan goes, nothing will be as good as /co/ back in 2006-2010 because that's when I first came here.
>>89444455Probably because I noticed the thread was full of shitposting brain damaged sisters
>>89444495>/hlgg/ is usually rampant with various antis And to believe /jp/ is even worse than that
ruffians don't even say bless you to poor mocochan anymore...
>>89444495>/co/>Not /a/Gay. At least it isn't as bad as hanging out in /b/.
>>89444561What did Fuwawa mean by that glance?
>>89444495I don't even necessarily have nostalgia for the time I started, it was just /b/ shitposting after all, to me the best time was when you could actually talk about vidya instead of twitter screencap threads and /pol/ shit nonstop. I'd use resetera or twitter if I wanted to talk about /pol/shit instead of games.
>>89444570I don't care about twitter. I engage very rarely.
>>89444570i don't fucking care anymore
Ok apparently I can't play mahjong for 5 hours because the servers are under maintenance.
>>89444464That's actually true, I don't remember a time when it was ever overall positive for Kiara. That said, KFP were always better at ignoring bait than ruffians. Whenever I stopped by her thread to talk about some stream I watched and saw some retard spamming on cooldown, everyone just ignored him and replied to me about the stream, which made having conversations actually possible.
>>89437521I think they need the numbers to show to management because the superchats took a dive and so did merch
I just blew a huge load to their busty kouhai...
i miss rratman. i hope he wasn't serious about leaving...that's what hurts about the passage of time. you see people come and go...i wonder how fuwamoco feel about that
>"real ruffians" shitting on them AND other holomembers for 20 minutes as the tweet goes unnoticedstill not as obvious as the GG birthday raid while they were streaming tbhdesu
>>89444561fuwawa eros
>>89444786which one
huge sobbi and tekzi Ws incoming
>>89444485As far as covers go Niko is number one without a doubt. I also liked her song selection more. But yeah, both great picks.I think ReGLOSS 3D debut being absolute kino made me warm up to this gen a lot more quickly, I support Cover going in this direction too, it's fun. And I also don't lament that FWMC didn't get the same treatment because I think solo traditional idol stuff suits them a million times better than the kind of music Cover produces. Sirens was awesome as a one time thing, but imagine an album full of that? No thank you. We're missing nothing.
I like Su the most because she will menhera soon
>>89444689Used to be worse, purely because they would reply to themselves for literal hours on end. That "This user was banned for replying to themselves about 30 times" wasn't a joke and surely wasn't the only time the fag did that. You see a rare bit of that here when the ban hits and a guy fighting 'a totally different person' both take the bullet meaning it was a singular person.
>>89444801I've been thinking of leaving too honestly. Still gonna watch them, but just not interact with them or ruffians anymore.
>>89444597I was there for the AnoHana and Samurai Flamenco weekly threads, good times. I just remember Accelerator and wan piss spam otherwise.>>89444838Fuwawa's reaction to her ecchi tag was funny, all non-prudes should have one.
>>89444801I thought he said he was just taking a break
>>89444812>Still streamingThey weren't streaming that day because it was right before the 3d asmr collab, or am I misremembering.
>>89444931It's really depressing to see. I don't NEED to have discussions about vtubers that much, I can just go do something else if it's impossible at the moment, but imagining someone doing this every day for no particular reason actually makes me feel sad. Why would you do this...
>>89444998they were streaming edf with advent i believe
>>89444962The amount of shitposting over that cliffhanger at the love hotel was unbearable.
>>89444931I remember the readschizo during the Mario endurance stream. It seems like he is gone though.
>>89444495Last time I was on /co/ regularly was when Samurai Jack was airing its final season. God those threads were fucking hilarious.
>>89445043Couldn't have been given all of advent was in the GG collab.
>>89444998it was during the guest announcementssudden +150 posts during an Advent collab larping as ruffians
>>89445102oh never mind i'm thinking of when GG was pulling out the names of the attendees from the hat. that's when the raid happened and advent were playing EDF
>>89445102It was when she was revealing who was invited to her birthday and FWMC weren't there.
>>89444570Some good ruffians did.
>>89445132Yeah just realized you were talking about guest announcement, not the actual Bday coab itself.
>>89445097Was the final season good? Used to love Samurai Jack but never watched that.
>>89444873I don’t know. I think it would be cool if FWMC was part of a gen focused on performance. Going at it alone is really difficult.
>>89444838 you got it right
>>89445185It WAS good but then dropped the ball after Jack reclaimed his sword and lost the beard imho.
>>89444962They did say Nerissa asked for it and management said no. Management is just inconsistent because individual managers don't want to bother the pig people so they say no without ever actually asking, but the pigs will say yes more often than people assume.It's the same as the ASMR pack having english, why would the no become yes? Simple, they insisted enough that the request reached someone who actually matters and they said "sure, why not?"Also based for Samumenco.
>>89445220I got really confused, you're talking about the reboot, not the original.
>>89444873Is niko previously from akb?
>>89445205It is difficult, but at least it's their own way, on their own terms. They would not be as happy if they were just as busy but working on the type of song they have in mind when they say they're not too interested in contemporary idols as they are in 80s and 2010s idols. And when you're company backed, that means you do it the company's way. If K-pop is what sells now, then you're singing K-pop, don't give a fuck about your history.
>>89444873I wonder if they regret not waiting and trying to be part of regloss, since that gen is okay with JSLs and are focused on idolshit (even if they aren't, well, great at it)
>>89445302no, neither chihaya or niko are former idols
>>89444801They seen people come and go for 10 years.
>>89444873Advent is missing a song like Baudol, an idol song, except it's a group song for them.
I do not care about Regloss or the new Devis unit
>>89445390I'm not sure, I don't think so, actually. I'm sure they envy their increased 3D time, but not their actual content.It's kind of like how Kiara was seething that IRyS just got her music produced by Cover with the whole vsinger thing at first, but there's no way he was jealous of the aboslute garbage Cover used to give IRyS. More the idea than the execution.
>>89445476Which one is her? Also I hate this fucking rap battle shit so much.
>>89444801Honestly it’s just the way of things. It’s very rare for people to stay around from a debut till now , especially mentally ill people who lack stormy impulse control. It’s why getting new people into the fanbase is always key. Sure some old names with still but the vast majority will either step back or step away completely. I’m in the step back phase myself as I no longer feel like I need to watch every stream live, but I’m hoping going to fes and cheering for them will rekindle that passion I had last year.
>>89445587The one being constantly attacked for being former AKB? kek
>>89445614Well I assumed they're both AKB and they were doing this as a cute thing
>>89445390I won’t be surprised if regloss gets a gen sololive before EN gets their second sololive.
>>89445298Reboot? No, season 5.
>>89445442is the one who talked about shitting a former idol too
>>89445476she cute
>>89445992>gen sololiveI get what you mean but this is kinda funny
>>89446156Actually both of the former idols have talked about pooping in their streams so far
>>89445499sirens is a korean idol song
>>89446281>it's NOT a duolive because we said so, okay!
>>89446370Idols poop, anon. Even Sora poops.
>>89444801he is okay, don't worry about him
>>89444495shut up
>>89446436Mococo is the kind of girl that gets pleasure from her butt when she poops and uses the bidet.
>>89446509Fuck you Mococo
>>89446436Mococo shits and the toilet water splashes on her balls.
>>89446509
I heard from the 'log you guys are having another melty, is that true?
Moco-chan's big hanging balls...
>>89443267you are not cut out for hololive, you like streamers, not idols. is okay, that is not something bad, you should just look around for somewhere more suited for you.
>>89446600Read the thread
>>89446649I'd say there are people in Hololive who can serve that preference just fine, just not FWMC.
>>89446600Read nigga read, we're talking about idols pooping now.
im bout to have the biggest shit of my life
>>89446509>>89446575>>89446579>>89446613
>>89446990ueh idols do NOT poop
>>89447192Proof?
some high school bully shit going on in this thread non stop for months, grow up
>>89447701shut up pissnix/tekzi/analoral/itta/etc
Which paypigs have oshihenned/left?
>>89448110Happy pupper...
Sucking Mococo's penis
>>89448168what made him unhappy?
>>89448251the land of the rising sun...
If you watch them as idols who just stream sometimes as fanservice you'll be a lot happier. That's what they want to be, anyway. It is also Cover's new direction in general
go back to using japanese emoticons girls
>>89448320ENTER biboo