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The 306th Wind

>NEXT STREAM: Justice QnA with doodling
[link pending]

>LAST STREAM: Tierlist ranking top 100 anime but you can't disagree with me because it's my birthday (week)!!!
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>Previous Thread: >>89439611
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Schedule
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https://x.com/ceciliaimgreen/status/1856828201680753111
Remember to ask your questions
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too sleepy... Honk mimimimi
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>>89460874
Schedule
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>>89460874
>>89462311
Zeitplan
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>>89461297
My question: CC will you marry me?
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>>89461297
Which one of you will milk me the fastest?
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>>89461297
Asuka or Rei
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Going to take a nap, see you otomos in a few hours
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>>89468838
Sleep beautifully
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>>89468838
Goo nigh tomo
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Did CC hint at what guests will show up to her violin concert?
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>>89472293
Yes by tiny doodle.liz, Nerissa, kronii, moom, and the baubaus are pretty agreed upon
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>>89472293
This is everything
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I like when she goes “what da heck”
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I like when she goes "so ya"
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>>89472924
heh, yeah that's a good one
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>>89461297
Who is that in the top left
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>>89472650
Nerissa, mumei, kronii, erb, irys, biboo, mori, fauna, bau bau
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>>89473845
I think it’s either irys or biboo, not both. Rocks don’t have that many right angles
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>>89465309
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CC go to sleep...
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I don't even know wtf pre saving is.
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Good morning.
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It sounds stupid, but every single time I've bought vtuber merch so far, soon after I ended up dropping them for one reason or another. I worry that it will be the same with Ceci.
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>>89478997
Yeah, it sounds really bad. You should redirect this merch to me instead to be sure that you won’t ever drop her
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>>89478997
Don't buy merch?
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>>89478997
It Does Sound Stupid but NOT for the Reason You're Thinking
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>>89479403
Ok, post your address.
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>>89482852
2nd drawer on left side of Ceci’s desk
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>>89483177
But that's my piss drawer!?
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Are you watching Suisei's concert lads?
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>>89483403
So that's the reason the whole room reeks of piss? What are you? A grem? Fucking hell
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>>89483825
I only care about Ceci.
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>>89483825
I'm catching up on vods
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Look at this!
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>>89485825
My eyes are tired, can I stop looking?
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>>89483403
I thought it was Ceci’s piss drawer?!
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Safe
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AssKey had a talk stream yesterday with some art of her being borne aloft, cheerleader style, bunch a mix of Holos including JP, ID and EN.
Ceci was drawn amongst them.
Is she showing up for AZKi's Live tomorrow or something? I didn't think they had any connection whatsoever.
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>>89489394
CC is on AZKi's team in holokuoshien.
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>>89483403
I thought it was delicious tea, you bastard
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>>89486809
No.
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>>89489394
Azki's her coach. she's on her team's starting lineup (left outfielder)
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Whenever I think of Ceci I get this little warm squeeze in my chest and my heart feels jittery. Is this arrhythmia? Am I gonna die?
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>>89490993
you better go see a mechanic or something, my uncle died because of that... "it's because I'm in love" he said, poor guy...
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>>89490993
I typed in your symptoms and it says here you have network connectivity problems
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>>89490944
Justice...
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Will CC play Holocure?
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>>89492093
I hope not. It's pretty boring. If she just wants to yap, I would prefer a pure zatsu.
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>>89491147
Nah, that's only the diagnosis elsewhere. Here it's called being German. It's an easy mix up that often happens since it's the same symptoms for both afflictions.
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Just started watching the wandering witch elaina and everything reminds me of cc
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>>89492138
Same. If she wants to have a game to springboard off there are a lot of walkingsims out there
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6K4dxr0BsQ
Frame
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>>89492714
they're nothing alike...
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>>89492093
she hates us so she probably will
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>>89490944
>AZKi has the deepest bullpen
She wins by default
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I want CC to play needy girl overdose but have a feeling that she would absolutely hate it
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>>89492714
CC is activly evil, Elaina is passivly evil.
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>>89495066
It was played by literally everyone and become boring years ago bro
But Ceci getting annoyed by her own antithesis would be something
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CC isn't evil and no I don't need to go through reeducation again thank you
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>>89495649
She put her twin into eternal torture, that's a lil bit evil
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>>89492714(me)
Wtf it has a doll episode
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otomos are dead...
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>>89497418
wind them up lazytomo
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winding
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>>89497441
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>>89497452
faster!!!
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>dollpussy
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>>89497970
>lysolspuds
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>>89462458
Hedulf
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>stream opens with Liz voice
ugh
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Cute dork
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The birthday song was cute
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> Raors show CC her pussy cat on stream
And CC liked it
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>Raora: didn't ask

based
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>>89498940
>CC: that's a you problem
based
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>Liz joins lol
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Of course CC tried Heroes of the Storm
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> Enemy
I just finished the first 3 episodes of the new Arcane season too
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>I'm sure it's fun
CC NO YOU CAN STILL STOP
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>>89499056
I usually follow one rule while checking out games
>moba = cancer
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>>89499090
no, it's called strategy... they need 1 spot more, but liz and raora might join if CC asked, but only 1 spot is free so CC may give her spot to someone else at any moment!
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>Gigi drawing Otomo pile

Maybe I judged you too harshly
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>>89499157
cc isn't THAT evil...
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>>89499180
GG is nice.
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HoTS is the only fun MOBA I've played, too bad nobody fucking plays it
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> CC advice to her past self: Go outside
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>>89499157
GOD I WISH
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GG loves us.
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>>89499351
me on the bottom
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>>89499377
you look sleep deprived... or caffeinated!! TRAITOR!!
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>>89499265
she says while doing her dance and language practice over the web
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>>89499428
but it was really tasty
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> CC group english cover song would be “I don’t really want to do the work today” in Firebringer the musical
Also CC watches Starkid, their Musical watchalong would be fun, all their musical is on youtube
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>>89498637
autistic hags deserve to be inseminated
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>>89499507
nice teeth... oh, nevermind...
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>GG broke CC's swear filter
Classic
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>CC Talking about her time management
she's just like me, fr
Once I spent weeks on some detail to the point that I didn't finish the project in the end... partly because the person I worked with on it decided to just end it without asking me anything...
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>barely streams
>"I'm such a workaholic"

I AM CALLING CAP AND A HALF THERE LIZ
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This you?
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I want to boop CC too.
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>>89499941
The shadow make this otomo look like it has long eye lashes, and lipstick
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> CC want to go to the onsen and the country side in Japan
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They want to see each other naked... I should have BEEN JUSTICE
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Math?
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>>89499941
have you heard her karaokes? Without autism and workaholism she wouldn't be able to pull those off
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>>89500128
they should really talk to mori she will 100% help justice find a good place
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>>89499941
There is no cap.
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> Favorite subject in school
ERB: anything creative
CC: Math (like logic)
Raora: Math
GG: english (reading good)
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>Liz
now I start to hate her
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Bunch of uncultured zoomers in chat
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> Second art prompt: Justice in water (onsen)
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>>89500203
>Mori
Don’t you mean Suisei?
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>Them trolling Raora IRL

They are EVIL
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> Tried to convince Raora if a tree in a mall is real or fake
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>>89500706
raora is so stupid and trollable shes the perfect woman
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>buys a green jacket when in grorious nippon
I suppose that means her eyes really are green.
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>>89500772
How breedable is this hag?
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CC goes teehee after she committed a crime
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>>89500992
"Etoo~ bleh"
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>>89499941
My other wife works incredibly hard you little green bastard
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>I have never had an impure thought
https://www.youtube.com/live/V5kX2lQQsJA&t=5650
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>>89501080
What ya gonna do against it, punk?
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>>89501080
You have more than one wife? Slut.
I have a green wife and 3 concubines. It's different.
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I think CC like logic because she want to gaslight people
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Of course the axis members think being on the side of a subjective thing like justice makes them good and right
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ceci's drawings have the most soul
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My comfort food is beer.
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> Sweet: I don’t know
IT’S NOT PANCAKE ?!?!
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>>89501260
those are stick figures
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>>89501235
CC has never been the same since the Izakaya Putsch
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>>89501235
Good and evil are subjective after all
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>german worried about oil
How topical
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how is big air fryer able to pay off all the vtubers to shill for them?
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>>89501373
They are.Most modern westerners would consider gladiator fights to be evil,but the Romans thought of them as normal for centuries.
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Her german is showing again.
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>>89501462
got one and i am not a vtuber
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>>89501475
consider: the romans were evil
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>>89501509
>spoiler
Nice try vglowie
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>>89501475
Gladiators fights were basically just a more violent WWE because most of them were superstars and would almost never be killed because it was expensive to equip, train, and house them. They had referees and everything and 99% of the time the loser would be spared.
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Gigi understands the appeal
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>CC still not censored

YABAI
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how much time has gg spent thinking about cc's smooth and featureless doll chest?
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GG...
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>>89501537
Roman's were based because everything they had they copied from the Greeks. Almost every single greek sculpture you've ever seen has been a roman man's copy.
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>Ceci is pro slavery
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>>89501600
They also executed prisoners during them.
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>>89501645
wait, we are slaves too?
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>>89501645
Whats her stance on serfdom?
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>>89501673
Oh yeah. If you weren’t 176 AD Steve Austin you were screwed if you were in the arena.
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>>89501691
machines don't have rights
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>her hair doesn't grow
I reject this reality.
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CC is essentially just wearing a wig
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>>89501691
Worse. We are drones (no freedom of thoughts)
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>>89501606
She's too chicken to say there aren't nipples though...
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>maybe I can get extensions
long hair enjoyers we are so back
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Breaking news: Ceci is bald and wears a wig
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Raora's image is so erotic. This perverted hag deserves having baby put inside her...
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CC is a bionicle I will not take my meds
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>>89501813
one day
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>>89501867
Damn that english dog, it should have been meeeee
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>>89501914
>falling for catalog rrats
retard
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>cc wants to be a treerat
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>>89502014
do NOT let her visit new york
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>>89502010
>coping this hard
it's okay chattino, she can still become your wife!
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>>89501625
I like how Ceci isn't censored because there is nothing
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>CC loves when people hate things
Immerlover
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>>89502080
I hate when people hate things.
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I see the appeal.
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>>89502077
She can change!
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>>89502144
kek
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>>89502077
CC doesn't have nipples
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Would CC be a red or a grey squirrel?
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>GG has been working on CCs chest for the past hour

heh, just like real life
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> Justice Fursona
ERB: Lion
CC: Squirrel
GG: Beaver
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>ARE YOU FUCKING SORRY?!
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>>89502203
but theres nothing there to work on....
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>>89502194
She said she want to be a small brown squirrel
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>>89502209
CC would be a honey badger because of her durability and intense desire to hate something at all times
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A stray catgirl shows up on your doorstep.
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>>89502287
What would you be if you weren't a cat this morning?
But I was a cat...
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I like when CC act like a child when she is with ERB
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>>89478997
Maybe related, but I drop bands after seeing them live for the first time
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CC should mute GG in all future collabs because it keeps making me want to have sex with her and it's distracting me from listening to CC.
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>>89502539
Stop resisting
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>>89502539
Can't think of anyone less sexy than Gigi.
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>>89502236
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Does youtube keep shitting itself for anyone else?
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>>89502644
No mirrors in your house gaytomo?
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>>89502236
uoooh I'm gonna grüüüüüüün
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>>89502726
Perfect for me
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>>89502726
Funktioniert auf meiner Maschine
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>>89502726
it constantly goes back and forward and I watch it like some ytp
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Their group dynamic has dramatically improved from the last justice collab
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> CC impression of Justice now
RR: Mean (jokingly), cute, kind
ERB: Ladylike, PON
GG: (extra) Stupid
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Raora is thinking really hard
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It's funny how they describe Gigi. She's definitely the smartest in a traditional sense but her brain rot is so bad it filters that out of their impressions of her
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>>89503043
She trying to not say evil
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Raora is dying on stream
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> GG word for CC: Murderer
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>>89503340
So this is love, huh
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IS THAT A FUCKING CASTING COUCH
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>>89503361
For Gigi? It's this
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>>89503412
oh, that makes sense
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>Rare
I thought I couldn’t love her more
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>rare or under
Blue rare girlies are wild in bed
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>>89502753
I love myself, actually
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>Destroy any planet, which one you choose
>CC instantly: Earth
I love how evil she is.
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>maybe there's a way we can travel through space and even manage if the sun disappears
I see Raora is also a disbeliever in the suggestions of thermodynamics.
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I’d blow up the flesh exoplanet that’s slowly moving towards our solar system
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>>89503740
i dont think raora believes in much
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>>89503801
>not wanting to become one with the M E A T
Enjoy your life as a meatplant, otomo.
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>>89503801
Based Gemini Home Entertainment enjoyer
Or the Junji Ito story
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liz and ceci don't understand infinity...
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>gigi swallowed one of cc's fingers by accident
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>>89504174
Infinite time doesn't exist in the physical universe. The theoretical monkey and typewriter need to exist in an environment.
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>>89504174
Infinity does not mean that any possibility that can ever happen will ever happen. The universe has a finite end to our knowledge, there won't be a good Star Wars prequel no matter how many 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000's of times you reset the universe.
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The ÜberCC
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>>89504323
It's theoretical for a reason dumbtomo
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if ye could change yer fate... wouldja?
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>>89504323
>>89504429
Infinity has always been conceptual, applying real world constraints to it defeats it's purpose in thought exercises
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The Granblue what ship now?
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Gigi, say Anohana is shit.
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>>89504323
The monkey and typewriter will exist for an infinite amount of time regardless of whether it’s possible in our reality. Maybe they’re a pocket dimension or something. It’s a thought experiment it’s not supposed to be 100% plausible.
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>>89504599
The thing with real world constraints is that you need to believe that the basic rules of the universe as a whole exist, because otherwise you can say the answer is yes to every single infinite question if you ignore the reality of a finite universe with finite resources. It changes the question from a philosophical or mathematical one that ignores things like living processes (eating, shitting, sleeping etc) and instead turns it into what's essentially a child's "shield that blocks everything" schoolyard playfight. Or to put it more simply, it means the question of "can an infinite amount of monkeys with infinite typewriters write a Shakespeare with an infinite amount of time?" no longer a question but a statement.
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I liked Edgerunners
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>>89505315
I was shit, CC is right
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>>89505359
You are shit, yes
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>>89505375
fuck you and fuck your balls
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Nerissa Immergreen
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>>89505315
It's good
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>>89504323
>Teacher: Imagine that you're a bird and that you're flying directly to your home. Today our task is to compare this to walking along the road to the same destination.
>You: UMMM.... TEACHER?? ITS NOT ACTUALLY POSSIBLE FOR HUMANS TO BE BIRDS THOUGH?!
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>>89505181
Those questions have less to do with can it happen and more to dow with do you believe there are intangibles that make something like Shakespeare possible. Like is a story just words put on a page or was it made special by something outside of the meaning we prescribed it
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>>89505490
Tobias didn't fucking die for you to spit on his grave like this.
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>>89505315
I haven't seen it but music is good
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>>89505181
yeah well an infinite number of monkeys and typewriters cant exist in the first place so how about we just never engage in thought sexperiments again?
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>>89505315
It was okay for me, I feel like outside of lucy and the main character we didn’t super spend that much time with the other character to feel that sad when they died like maybe Rebecca in the her final ep got a bit more development
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>>89505556
>thought sexperiments
Hot
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>>89505181
Are you diagnosed with autism?
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>>89505530
Yes! That's what the exact intent of the scenario is supposed to be, that even the dumbest bunch might eventually become able to write a literary masterpiece, but basically every time the question comes up it's used as less of a thought experiment and more of a rhetorical question.
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>>89505641
>that even the dumbest bunch might eventually become able to write a literary masterpiece
Congratulations, you managed to miss the point entirely.
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I miss Ceci guys
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>>89505556
Thought experiments are supposed to make abstract things more intuitively clear by introducing a metaphor that will use cues from pre-existing knowledge. If all you want to say is "a random string generator will generate any possible string given infinite attempts," but introduce it as "a monkey hitting random keys on a typewriter for infinite amount of time will eventually produce Shakespeare, but it's a very special monkey living in a magical universe because otherwise it doesn't work :^)" then it's a shit though experiment and if that's what you are going for then we probably are better off never engaging in them again.
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never change, you bunch of retards
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>>89505181
>"can an infinite amount of monkeys with infinite typewriters write a Shakespeare with an infinite amount of time?"
If there is an infinite number of monkeys on an infinite number of typewrites, surely it would just take as long as it takes to type out Shakespeare. One of them is going to do it perfectly first time.
They wouldn't also need an infinite amount of time.
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>>89506046
You're talking about things that are esoteric and functionally no different than magic. There's nothing to understand in the first place outside of the philosophical
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No stream tomorrow?
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>>89506937
See >>89460874
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>>89506372
I thought it was a single monkey and a single typewriter with infinite time
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do you think updatilia is jealous of gigi which is why she manipulated her tweet?
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>>89506046
thats actually not what thought experiments supposed to do.
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>>89505547
Tobias didn't die at all. You're thinking about Rachel.
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>>89507089
NTA
It doesn't really matter which one of the two thought experiments you want to engage in. The one main difference between those two is that one is infinitesimal unlikely to happen with only one monkey over a the span of a fixed interval of time while the other is ever more likely to happen the more monkeys you have typing away.
It's usually the counter-argument to X is ''impossible'' because the chances for it to happen are too low for any practical consideration.
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>>89507294
I am a sucker for blondes. Immergold makes me feel funny
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>>89507299
This sounds more like a semantic argument about what a person means when they say "impossible" where the people having the argument have failed to realize its true nature.
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>>89507655
Usually it's with one of the sides having a predetermined answer starting with a capital G.
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>>89507260
That actually is exactly what thought experiments are supposed to do. By substituting abstractions with intuitive concepts you lower the amount of working memory needed to understand it and explore the consequences. Monkey and a typewriter is not a very good one since it does nothing to simplify the abstract premise and doesn't allow to explore the "real" consequences either, it's just useless literary fluff. It is known for all the wrong reasons with some brainlets laser focusing on juxtaposition of the monkey and Shakespeare, the nature of art, and other shit that had nothing to do with statistics.
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Man, you guys are smart as fuck
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Munky funny
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>>89508286
That's why were banned from drinking coffee
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if you had an infinite number of monkeys with bread and a freezer at least one of them would try to freeze their bread
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>>89508370
Probably more than one. Monkeys are stupid and freezing bread is a stupid thing to do.
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>still taking for granted theory that time and space is finite and universe had beginning when Big Bang was disproven as beginning of universe after we found galaxies older than Big Bang
I bet you even believe in quantum observer and you don’t think that it was some interference of measure machine
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>>89508401
>freezing bread is a stupid thing to do.
WRONG
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>>89508402
>Galaxy older than Big Bang

Hold on, what do you mean? If we discover older galaxies that just pushes the big bang further back
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I buy a loaf of bread, toast it all, then freeze it so I have easy access to toast whenever I want it.
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>>89508180
Why does a thought experiment need to have "real" consequences. If the point is simply to provide a more intuitively understandable basis for discussion of complex ideas then why shouldn't they sometimes abide by rules other than the ones which govern our reality? I think the idea of a world where infinity, monkeys, and typewriters all exist is pretty easy to imagine in general. Lets not confuse people's misunderstanding of this particular thought experiment with it being an inadequate metaphor (I don't believe thought experiments should be designed with the average person's understanding in mind).
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>>89508402
>>89508527
I'm going to assume he is talking about the 6 objects, presumed to be galaxies, that the JWST found and that look too 'old' for the timeframe they must have formed in. Just something we don't know enough about yet.
It's jumping to conclusions from a lack of knowledge. Let me give you another example of how that can play out.
Planet is covered in dense clouds, clouds mean water, which means a lot of rain, which means a hot and humid climate, which supports the growth of ferns which is exactly what dinosaurs would be feeding on.
The presence of clouds therefore means there must be dinosaurs on venus!
Nevermind that the clouds are formed from sulfuric acid and the surface temperature is high enough to keep lead in a liquid state.
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>>89508545
Someone get this monkey a job at NASA!
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personally i'd rather have an infinite number of ceci's
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>>89508888
Agreed
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>>89508782
So it's too far redshifted to be it's actual age is what I am getting from your response?
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>>89508888
But there only being one Ceci is what makes her so great. I don't think you would appreciate her as much if you knew there were an infinite number of replacement CCs
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>>89508527
Not older than the Big Bang but too large for the time at which they would have formed early in the universe according to current theories. So it might be possible the universe is older than previously thought. Or larger galaxies can form earlier than we thought.
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>>89508782
>>89509034
gotcha
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>>89508527
Not really. You can say that Big Bang was beginning of observable universe, but there is no proof that it was beginning of all universe
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>>89509010
That Anon >>89509034 summed it up nicely. There shouldn't be galaxies that appear to be that old but there are.
If there was a bigbang/singularity as the origin of all space-time is another question.
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>>89508286
I’m kinda smart and I got used to being right to the point that when I’m wrong I get stupidly defensive as if my pride gets crushed and I have to remind myself every time that I’m a retard that sometimes is wrong, concede immediately and apologize if I was too agitated
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The otomos gigi drew look like something went wrong during the manufacturing process but they’re still kept around out of pity and/or brotherhood
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>>89510087
Like a defective turret from Portal 2
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GG hates Updatilia...
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>>89512119
I think I’m gonna be sick
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>>89512119
dastardly fat beast
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>>89512119
Would you still love CC if she was a fat Risu?
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>>89513006
>automaton
>fat
I don't understand how it is possible
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I just got home. Did she mention anything about the otomo pouch stream?
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>>89515006
don't think so
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No Ceci for nearly 2 days… I wanna uuuuu
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>>89515256
thanks brotomo



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