>Fanbase literally split in twoWhat would you do if you're her?
Egg on the civil war and break out the popcorn
Ignore nijiniggers that pretend to be her fans
>>89498479Said "Nijiniggers" are her longtime paypigs
>>89497798I mean she was careless for not taking pics of all flower stands, but the indos who told her to graduate ain't the kind of fans who want to criticize a Holomem in a faithful wayReminder that HoloID literally monopolized the indo land. They have nowhere to go see their domestic VTubers other than HoloID and some guys from Aka virtual. Indo normies are super cruel that they would make 4chan /here/ look tame in comparison
>>89497798What happened now
>a FUCKING flower standDo they really?
>>89498791they're telling her to graduate because she's too good for HoloID and ID vtuber fans (which is true)
Why doesn't Kaela ever have these kinds of deranged freaks chimping out when she tells them to get some help?
>>89497798>Fanbase split in twoKobo has a fanbase? QRD because I do not care about ID or Kobo at all.
>>89499273Kaela's fanbase isn't composed of literal children+deranged pedophiles
I live in a country with drinkable tap water can someone explain what the fuck happened
>>89499373Unintentional favoritism by not having the OCD to take photos of every single flower stand sent in support of her.
>>89499472How the fuck does she have gachikoi?
>>89499566She’s a blue haired bubbly loli, why are you surprised?
>>89499472waitwhat?>>89498791seriously is it because of flower stands?
>>89499670yes she only acknowledged the flower stand from her biggest paypig and omitted the crowdfunded one
>>89497798Could I get a QRD, I don't watch her
>>89499670Today some anons learned that idol culture and gachikoi behavior is actually a real thing with consequences
>>89499782The one who complained about the flower was a bigger paypig
>>89497798>fanbase split in twoobvious solution, fanbase should split kobo in two
>>89500119Vertical or horizontal?
>>89499273Kaela's fanbase consists of westerners and ID fans that accepted Hololive culture.
>>89499273because kaela filled with EN and adult brain ID fans unlike kobo ID fans.
>>89499634she's got some broke ass gachis then, her earnings are shit
>>89501387u aint wrong.
>>89502240>Ame on top with only a single stream And you retards said she was irrelevant
>>89502240Membas to superchat ratios are all over the place, I wonder what makes them so different.
>>89497798Have sex with all her fans, her fabs should be unified under cunny
>>89497798if I were her I would find this version of me and suck his peen
So thats why I got that odd tweet from her.I'll remember this anytime I need ammo against holofags.
>>89502240why are memberships so low compared to similar ccv twitch streamers? is it because twitch spams people with ads so much they do paid subs purely to dodge the ads?
>>89503404Usually these things track new or gifted memberships in the period, not the total active. Don't know if twitch is the same
>>89502449>>89503404Those are only for new/gifted members within the stream, anything outside and also recurring members don't count
>>89499670It really is, worse part is she already acknowledged and thanked the other flower stand right after people reminded her about it and yet they're still mad that she didn't do that in the first place.Fucking wild
if you wanna maximum the drama milking, at least provide context so outsiders who don't watch her can help spread drama for you.
>>89499933>Kobo >idol culturenijisister wouldn't even watch clips that little bitch was always anti-gachi "I do whatever I want see me go out of my way to collab with unpopular faggots" if she still have paypigs they have to be some serious schizos just as a result of selection pushing less delusional people away.
>>89504014>there were 2 flower stands>one from a huge paypig and the other from a group of fans>she posted and thanked only the former>fans pointed out the other flower stand she missed>she posted the other one and thanked it soon after>fans are still mad she didn't do it from the beginning, following the lead of a really pissed off Japanese fan
>>89504581>pissed off Japanese fansJust falseflagging nijeets
>>89504581>following the lead of a really pissed off Japanese fanThe tactics of a Samurai is to sow discord after all....
>>89504712No, it's literally one Japanese guy. He's still pissed about ithttps://x.com/mn_syochan
>>89504712Not really, that person travel other country event to watch/visit kobo
ID fags always try to moral high ground other Holo fans about how heckin based they are for not being unicorns, but will have a hissy fit over their oshi not recognizing a fucking flower stand
>>89504875>>89504967Kobo, if this message gets to you some-fucking-how, you better take someone with you every time you go out, that motherfucker 100% got emboldened by the Nene and Korone situation and might be genuinely deranged and dangerous now
>>89504581>she posted the other one and thanked it soon afterShe gave huge praise to the first set of flowers but literally only said “oh k, thx” in response after people started calling her out.
>>89504712It's literally just one japanese gachi. Other indo fans tried reasoning with the guy saying that Kobo is human and all, that she makes mistakes but the guy won't budge until he gets some sort of apology from kobo.
>>89505265That guy started it, but don't pretend a bunch of other ID fans didn't take his side
>>89505226Boo hoo bitch, cry me a river
>>89505226The tweet felt more like a tsun response instead of actually being rude though. But I understand a lot of the many fans complaints that Kobo does take her fans for granted sometimes.
>>89505335You mean the bunch of haters and antis from ID who pretend to be Kobo's fans
>>89505226Not really...https://x.com/kobokanaeru/status/1855501536362950710
>>89505705Nice try. Literally one of the ones fanning the flames is a well know fan in the community, the same one who called Kobo out for not posting the second flower standhttps://x.com/Reghinskuy/status/1855500054074654995https://x.com/Reghinskuy/status/1856640463945797643
Kobo gives zero shits about her fans and is just in Hololive to be famous and collab with ugly indonesian ecelebs
>>89506295I remember when she went on this little tangent about anime boys and holostars (I think it was one Kiara offcollab in Japan) where she pretty much implied she would love to date this fags because it's like romance anime, perhaps she was just trolling her fanbase but ID ones could easily miss what she said in English and Kobo did spent a ton of time and energy on absolute shitters (even by homostar standards) from UPROAR.
Indos are worthless and should be cast aside, one of the worst combinations of poor, entitled, cucks and prudes
>>89504875>>89504967>>89505148>>89505265CMIIW (heh), but yes, it's all started from that JPbro.https://x.com/mn_syochan/status/1856824721901588996This will be followed by that thread from Reghinskuy later. The second link.From my observation, some Kobokerz feel that they aren't being appreciated enough all of this time. Hence, this is akin to the tip of the iceberg. For example, I saw a Kobokerz who said that her bouquet for Kobo didn't even get noticed by Kobo, thus she got demoralized.So, there are two kind of people for now:>those who think that JPbro and Reghinskuy were right about Kobo being bad at appreciating her fanbase and it's a legitimate criticism of her>those who think that those two and Kobokerz in the first category are "parasocial fucks" or something like that.
>>89507130Tbh, i dont care about photo on socialmedia. Yes i help/donate that flower too.Now they ruin her mental for irl exam and real birthday]
>>89506081The guy thought he had the moral high ground to criticize Kobo but ended up fanning the flames instead kek
>>89506081I don't consider her a real fan if she thought "calling out" at this time would be good idea
>>89507130It doesn't help that antis from Facebook are pouring gasoline into this situation, too. Hence, the "provocateurs" thing that Kobo tweeted about. She has many antis that mainly shitpost her on Facebook groups, somehow.https://x.com/kobokanaeru/status/1856907737797726446So, there you have it.>A JPbro was pissed off because he traveled to ID to watch the concert, only to find out that Kobo didn't appreciate the fan's gift (the bouquet) enough>A local Kobokerz agreed and made a thread about Kobo improperly deploying her gimmick and making her look like don't appreciate the fanbase's effort, like >>89505226 said>Some (if not many) of Kobokerz surprisingly agreed with them, saying that it's been a problem that Kobo didn't appreciate her fanbase enough in recent times>A constructive criticism, a criticism because they want her to be better, they said>Antis from Facebook are feasting, because they saw that the Kobokerz are calling her out in public. Like a shark smelling the blood in the sea (heh)>Thus, the shitposting overdrive and even going to Twitter and flamming the flames there
>>89507478Some fans are retarded, what a surprise
>>89506081Nice flowers though - are they real? I've never seen ones those shades of blue.
>>89499273Kaela doesn't enable delusional people
>>89506081Yes. This is the one that got organized collectively by the Kobokerz like >>89507325https://x.com/rhythmsetmefree/status/1855091536276734049/Oh, and he also agreed with Reghinskuy's thread, by the way.https://x.com/rhythmsetmefree/status/1856643097284771858
>>89507939 (me)whoops, meant for >>89507685
the picture only had one flower stand and kobo said thanksBUT THERE WERE TWO KOBO HATES HER FANS AIIEEEE
I think if you give a gift expecting something in return (even attention) then it isnt really a gift
>>89497798>What would you do if you're her?Head straight into ojisan rape alleyshttps://litter.catbox.moe/vqtws0.png
>>89508005https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1855501536362950710
>>89497798>>Fanbase literally split in two>What would you do if you're her?DO a Kroni and shit on the fanbase and start to lusting for males in collabs, this way only the NTR enjoyers gonna stay
Is this a stealth /warkop/ thread
>>89508209It's a stealth /ehe~/ thread
>>89507939Also, the same guy also sent a bouquet to Watame and she QRT'd it.Kobo, this is how you do it. The fanbase needs moral support so they can keep supporting her, after all. It's that easy.https://x.com/rhythmsetmefree/status/1855104822451880254/https://x.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1855106451481804810
>>89508243Where's the loli posting and kobo lewds
>>89508413>>89508114
>>89508328Is Kobo even /here/ though?
>>89508496no, she read /ehe/>>89414424 >>89415623
MUHHH IDOL CULTURE AIYEEE
>>89497798Graduate
>>89499143Can kobo even survive as an indie vtuber or a face cam streamer?
>>89508328who cares retard
>>89508891who knows, tinktod all 1m+ video and last photo on instagram 140k, ofc with exception of diifferent persona
>>89501387>>89502240That's because the majority of her audience is Indonesian whereas the bigger ID earners like Kaela get superchatted in a currency that's actually worth something.
>>89502449Some holomems push gifted More than super chats. Mori for example who has the highest new members/gifted straight up had SC off for almost 4 months and has played primarily fromsoft games which doesn't allow SCs while also pushing people to gift more than SC which caused her to have a massive amount of memberships gifted and she fell from her usual #2 EN spot in SCs.
>>89502240>Iofi, my belovedI've been a member since almost the start but it's sad to see how many streams she does for the SC result compared to others.
>>89509071With that angle, it's bad for Kobo because somehow the one who's willing to spend money on her has pissed off because he thinks that she doesn't meet his expectation. Assuming that the average JPbros can spend more than the average IDbros.You can't bite the hand that feeds you, after all.
>>89509526well...
>>89509575Don't put that JPbro on a pedestal anon. And I think it's best not to get one-guyed
>>89500187cloning
>>89509732Well, I've been exposed to the "haha IDbros is poor" psyop for so long, after all. Not entirely false, though.
>>89506081The thing is the fact that even one of her Kobokerz is calling her out in public and some Kobokerz agree that Kobo needs some corr- I mean constructive criticism... Well, Kobo needs to listen to her fanbase about whatever is wrong with her. She can't just outcast them as "PARASOCIAL FUCKS", after all. Not when she's in the business where the company profited from parasocial relationship.
Ice cream
>>89511484Post the full pic
>>89511023I mean it's pretty obvious that ID management takes this issue pretty seriously. When was the last time they got directly involved in the talent's fanbase affairs?
>>89511921https://files.catbox.moe/q2b6lw.png
>>89499143>because she's too good for HoloID and ID vtuber fans (which is true)Her new bilibili fandom will take care of her then as she plays Genshin Impact.
Is this the biggest HoloID drama to have happened? They are surprisingly the most chill side of Hololive, despite SEA's reputation
>>89512607Kobo has attracted a bunch of normalfags who aren't part of the existing fanbase.
>>89512607nope, moona religion joke bigger than this
>>89512607>Is this the biggest HoloID drama to have happened? I don't know. There are many that comes to my mind.>They are surprisingly the most chill side of Hololive, despite SEA's reputationOutdonesians are usually not aware because of the language barrier. And, the drama doesn't have to be related to male collab.
>>89497798QRD?
>>89499273It's how they treat their fanbase, kobo treats hers like shit then does the uoh thing to bring them back up again making her fanbase be some kind of an abused girlfriend. Whoever is left after experiencing it repeatedly won't be right in the head.
>sperging out over flowers This is some advanced fucking mental illness. Is her fanbase filled with hysterical mentally unstable women or something?
>>89499472What the fuck is a flower stand?I don't bother with ID and I'm usually indifferent to them in collabs. I genuinely don't understand why there's an ID branch in the first place. What does that place even do?
>>89508604The thing is she sexualize herself being a loli too much making herself look like a hypocrite in the process. It's like treating your fanbase badly then doing "asmr" to bring them back again only to insult them afterwards because they liked it then repeat. >>89513697Whoever is loyal to her after all that is not mentally well, heck even /ehe/ got deleted for a while because of rl cheesepost
>>89513697It's on her. The risk of in the business where parasocial relationship prevails and the company is profited from it.
>>89499273something something chat is a reflection of the streamer
>>89514042there are pictures linked in this thread you slow dense motherfucker
>>89497798Play the victim card
>>89512829Disappointed paypigs and longtime viewers due to her underappreaciating one out of fucking TWO flower buckets and her churning out RM Tiktok contents instead of streaming as Kobo.VSYour usual "Leave my oshi alone you fucking fake fans" blind consumerism.
>>89500119Calm down king Solomon
>>89520252I think it's hilarious how the usual twitter and reddit crowd are calling the organizer of the holoID fan offkai for 4th fes a "tourist" and "fake fan"
Follow Senpai Aqua's footstep
>>89514042What the fuck do you think a flower stand sounds like? It's a stand with flowers on it.
>>89520884I think Reddit sat this one out cause it's a clear mixed case of both Kobo and her fans needing to contemplate for a bit.Unless I missed something.
I'm just here to laugh at you.Its honestly impressive how holofags always outdo themselves, you feel you've seen the peak of how low they can go, just how much of a worthless subhuman they can be and then shit like this happens and I realize, nope, it can always get worse. I seriously hope nobody ever escalates things someday, I do not desire harm on any of these girls but all it takes is one unhinged lunatic that feels slighted.
>>89503938>OMG THANKS FOR THE FLOWER>also this one too (reposting the other flower from someone else's pic)
>>89499273She's an autist whose 12 hour kusoge streams filter anyone who doesn't actually enjoy her content and personality.
>>89512234did you actually think this is nsfw
>>89524471What did you expect? Her fanbase are literal children, that picture alone is probably the most they've ever jacked off to
>>89524471Nta but sometimes it's like flipping a coin as to whether you get fucked for art, even if it's not actually R18. I've been given a three day for posting a chuuba in underwear before, and then on other occasions I've posted pretty much nude art and that was fine.
>>89497798ghost my fans
>>89524471I mean there four ver, but i only drop sfw one
>>89504712Kek rent free
>>89500119>The fanbase that's willing to let her go so she's not split in two gets to have her because they love her that muchBRAVO KOJIMBO
>>89520252>one out of fucking TWO flower bucketsI need more explanationThere's two in total and she posted only one?
>>89507536why the fuck didnt see notice the crowdfunded flower in the first place
>>89497798so from what I gather she's id la+?
>>89497798here's your summary
>>89530955>>89532773There's already a better qrd here >>89504581
>>89499670Yes and she did this >>89523983 and that wasn't even the worst thing she did. She claimed she took the photo that she stole from someone else's reply/post
>>89499273It's fun to tease Kaela about being cute, her fans don't actually expect it (don't know how they react the few times Kaela does intentionally be cute).>>89509526Not much Iofi can do at this point now that's there's more holo girls, unlikely she can replicate AkiRose's revival. Only reason she's above Ayame or Choco on that list because they barely stream, Suisei doesn't need SCs and Gura isn't streaming. Maybe if she could get over her motion sickness issue she can play better games.
>>89499390interesting combo....
>>89508114gay
>>89524290>"OH MY GOD LOOK AT THIS!!! SUCH AN AMAZING WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE">"eh this too ig"
>>89524290I didn't get what's the deal with this was till someone said there were only two flowerstands.
>>89536717They should organize a meet up to reconcile their differences.
>>89499472>every single flower stand sent in support of her.Two flower stands
>>89537308kek. now that was funnyi know understand why her fans are mad
>>89538005Critics to specific Hololive girl is okay. But, don't do it in public, as it'll invite outsiders. Do it in the membership stream.
>>89512234can you post the full catbox set?
>>89538579The top is from one of her e-celeb male friends that she can't get off his dick. The bottom is from her fans. ID fans like to pretend they are unicorn slayers and above it all, but this is one cucking too far and the mask slipped right off.
>>89540048One /ehe/ back, + it make better search
>>89540795the last /ehe/ was nuked, anon
>>89541264Its for easy search all catbox on 1 thread
>>89498479>nijiniggerswho are they there? the anti-unicorns?
>>89497798Masturbate my cunny to oblivion.
i haven't watched kobo in like over a yearwhat does she even do. i've watched fucking roboco more than kobo
>>89497798qrd? what did she do?
>>89540285Fucking retard. The first one wasn't from an e-celeb, just a fan with a deep wallet
>>89498791anon they have been on /vt/ for a year spamming catalog shit posting on Phase. Holofans let it slide but were slow to realize that after this crowd did a number on Sayu, the Niji-Indos who luv their Nijiboys went full on attacking Kronii. Most recently Gura graduation bait threads and most directly the new regloss. They work in tandem to do 24/7 shit posting but hey, it was only Phase before so who gave a fuck.
>>89498791Indo normies are cruel? What's the cultural influences and local religion?
>>89545270lmao post it to xitter i dare you
>>89502240>Shinri>shit viewership>not bad earningsI guess that's the merit of having a smaller fanbase that full of people in their late 20s/early 30s?
>>89545429No need, it's been memed to death since yesterday, if anything this is so unoriginal
>>89545546Where is it from anyways?
>>89545608from twitter.... that why no need to post that>>89540048ok im back, you still need it?
>>89545734Got the source? I'd love to see what people thought about it
>>89545784forgot to like / bookmark it, just the author of that short comic screenshoot another comment kikebook (adult joke)...
>>89545608Mostly on Facebook
>>89497798>fanbaseShe has fans?
>>89499273Kobo fanbase are children and pedophiles.
>>89545784>>89545845Here you gohttps://nitter.poast.org/ButterBlue05/status/1857060805679731128
>>89504581>Japs angry over a paying flower stand getting more attention. Why? They're used to being cuck like this by Ken who make better wages than they do. How is this behavior new to them?
>>89546236Typo paypig
>>89546210Nice, thanks
>>89523983grow up you stupid retard
>>89546047I don't read gibberish.
this melty is all about asserting control over her through guilt. it's extremely shameful behaviour by emotionally unhygienic perverts. kobo is right to avoid giving them too much attention.
>>89546047thanks anon got a new reaction image
>>89546047What's the reason for Facebook still being so popular in SEA?
>>89546586So unicorns trooning out because they didn't get attention? And the whale did?
>>89546744you can make group anti..? that easy>>89546755not unicorn (i mean brat already collab with males...), more like gachi (?)+friend?
>>89546815Isn't that the same thing. Both side think women must do whatever they want because money.
>>89546919not really? that different thing (imo)unicornwill spend money until that person collab with males(gone)gachiwill spend money until that person did something wrong/or smth like that
>>89546744If I'm not mistaken, you can somehow use Facebook completely free of mobile data charge in ID.So it's basically because they're poor
>>89546744what are the alternatives?
>>89546744The Facebook-Whatsapp-Instagram ecosystem
>>89503404Twitch recently added an option to pay monthly for no ads regardless of subscription status to individual streamers, so that disparity might disappear soon
>>89546744convenience. Old people were the first to access the internet and facebook was their first social media, which means they are not likely to move into anything else. Then they make one for their kids to play games, and continue from there. Nowadays only the most tech-savvy people will move to twitter.
>>89497798>two flower stands>TWO>somehow missed one of themthis is just Cain and Abel 2: Electric Boogaloo
>>89534223I've read through the threadI'll go for this concise explanation instead >>89507536
>>89546744When it first came out they did some shitty "you HAVE to use your real name on Facebook, unlike Friendster" propaganda so now everyone is too invested to move elsewhere
>fanbase split in twoAh yes, "the actual fans" vs "shitstirer from Facebook/Discord"Actually let's make that 3, because the tourists who hate idol culture have found out about this and start attacking Kobo's actual fans for being "parasosial fucks".
>>89532022Probably because 1. It wasn't in the provided photos for the talents to share2. (cmiiw) only Kobo received two flowers
Let's hear what she has to sayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mmo0DdA9c0
>>89497798
>>89548428TLDR :>She knew about the crowdfunded flower>She admitted that she just went "Whatevs" on that tweet cause she couldn't read the atmosphere and apologized for it>"For those who asked when will I graduate, just wait till I got terminated I guess cause I don't want out"
So... Is parasocial relationship inherently evil? If so, then is VTuber also entirely evil for profiting from it?I always see people comment about this kind of drama, it's as if it's inherently wrong for the consumer to ask for something in return from the provider. So, I wonder if the so-called parasocial relationship is really the evil that robs individual freedom.
>>89499566Because not all gachikoi are dickless loser who don't have the confidence to beat fucking gay korean with their money
>>89500001Not even close LMAO. Bang Dillon has spent probably atleast 10x more than that fucking nobody syochan. Not to mention his Kobo itasha car. Not all Japs are rich.
>>89500663then explain why 99% of the provocators are pemaloes
>>89553681Oh wow not that the Kobo drama is over they're going for Kaela
>>89553637This, hence the jealousy
>>89553681most of Indonesians pemaloes are former kobokerz. this is not 2 years ago when Kaela was the the runt of ID3. everything changes after her minecraft arc, she's the queen of ID now and her ID fans are full of fucking retarded bocils i wish she never touch that fucking block game
>>89553939Just close chat and ignore the greyniggs.
>>89497798wait. let me get this straight, an indog got mad because his 50cent contribution to a 10 dollar bouquet didn't get acknowledged? i'd probably be mad too if i spent 4 whole months salary just to not get noticed by my oshi desu
>>89553939Take your ID lingo and go back to your shitty Facebook group
>>89553939Ironically the JP gachi that started the whole drama was a former pemaloe
>>89554128I see we're just making up lies now
>>89547310>Twitch recently added an option to pay monthly for no ads regardless of subscription status to individual streamersanon, turbo has been around since 2020Anyone who uses twitch knows how to block ads with a single script and an app for mobile
>>89553681are we switching targets now?
>>89554377Yes why don't we also try Zeta too
>>89507331>The guy*girlwomen was a mistake
what a bunch of schizos
>>89508209/warkop/ bros we're inclining!
>>89497798Don’t acknowledge it, drama is retarded
>>89508891yes, her rm chinktok is more popular than her regular holo persona, and this is Kobo, one of the biggest holos on Chintok
>>89512607Indonesians are the most chill SEAs tho, so it's not that surprising
>>89554806you can't say that the flips will get angry
>>89554237>lieshttps://x.com/mn_syochan/status/1779153012075987448
>>89553487It is wrong to ask something in return in a parasocial relationship. The definition of it is being one sided, meaning you don't get your way, unless that already was the way they were going.That doesn't mean being parasocial or profiting from it is bad, you just have to accept the truth and either enjoy what they are serving or leave.
>>89554719How can that be true when her entire claim to fame was because people found out that she was Kobo
>>89555146Damn I stand corrected. Glad he's not Kaela's problem now
all this tells me is that Kobo has some really dumb fuck fans and she's a complete idiot
>>89555290She attracted ever retard in the Indo sphere. They dropped Ollie and ran to her when she debuted. It's also why the other ID girls don't have to deal with this shit, even if they have less viewers. Most of the crazy retards are not in their pool of fans because they all 'slighted' Indonedia in some way.
The second one is more impressive tbqh
>>89554000>an indogno, a Japs. and then her indos fans who put whatever a japs think on pedestal start going mad too
I can see how that short thank you can be a bit hurtful.
>>89555245How can that be true when her tiktok are more popular than Kobo. There are more people asking her to join JKT48 in the comments than people going *wink wink kobo*.
>>89555146>BaeThis fucking rrat, of course
>>89555146who this
>>89556201Maybe if you're blind
qrd
>>89556104>>89558554>>89497798>>89507536might want to add, she said thank you THREE TIMES . 1st Flower stand: (check the time yourself) MAKASIH BUAT RANGKAIAN BUNGANYAAA YG INI CANTIK SEKALI2nd Flower stand:13.43 MAKASIH JUGA SAMA KARANGAN BUNGA YG INI YAAHHHH (same flower stand with the one syo and reghina mad at) -> dumbfuck are incapable to read this for some reason14.10 ini jg mksh (same flower stand with the one syo and reghina mad at) -> reason people are mad at her and thought she didn't appreciate the flowerReghina (womyn behaviour) and Syochan (parasocial fucks) are the wrong one and the provocateur at this case for getting offended and lashing out for no reasons.
>>89558808all this coulda been evaded if she not say it like ungrateful person (the 3rd time she say thanks)
The stupidest thing about this drama is how some of the people that are defending her actually wanted her to graduate meanwhile the people "attacking" her wanted her to stay forever
>>89558808circle the wagons.
>>89498597>Admits Nijiniggers are shitpostingAs usual, worthless whores should be rangebanned.
>>89554344Huh. I could've sworn I only started seeing the option for it this year
>>89563442You're a retard
>>89502240I'm surprised some of the EN Homos are so high. Bettel was one of their best hires, but I'm surprised 2 of the Armis fags are doing ok.
>>89504875most japanese guys are polite and normal but some of them are really outta their fucking minds
>>89556882Ah, you're blind, i see, my apologies anon
>>89559055Because her defender actually cares about her. Why stay with this shitty fanbade? She's way too good for them, better graduate.
>>89570194anon...well, half agree since holoid manager suck rn. Heck even moona song is fucking late to promote
>>89540048here >>89551009next 3/3 (last catbox) when brat stream again (or when /ehe/ is back again)
Guys, is it just me or did kobo use some of the points stated in the thread for her apology stream?
>>89537308damn female brat, I will correct this behavior
>>89497798How many fanbases have had open civil wars?
>>89497798If I was her, I'd fix the problem by acting bratty towards my fan base and baiting them to split me in two instead. Problem solved. It's not that difficult...
>>89502338It was a charity stream retard
>>89555157Welp, fair enough.I hate the fact that the same people who defended Kobo are hurling the "parasocial" term like a racial slur while the very reason they defend Kobo is most likely due to the parasocial relationship itself. I mean, you won't get anything from Kobo for defending on her behalf. Despite the gimmick, she's also a grown-up woman and I'm sure she can withstand this drama like many of her past dramas. I think that's the reason the "white knight" mockery exists.They're hypocrites, simple as that. And, I don't want to be associated with a bunch of hypocrites.
>>89502240grim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOP_Cxj0keU
at least the drama end really well. (ofc ignore kikebook lol)
>>89579841>the drama end really welli wouldn't call the entire hololive fanbase calling out kobokerz as "entitled" is a good ending
>>89497798this bitch will accept my flowers
>>89579841>>89579822>>89579961Kobokerz....Not like this....
>>89580064oofshe's already unstable hopefully regina doesn't kill herself
>>89579961no, i mean as long brat already explain that drama both should fine.... right?>>89580064sadly, people can't read really well...
>>89580438>sadly, people can't read really well...??They're right, fans deserve nothing from streamers. Those parasocial fucks are entitled bitch (no, parasocial doesn't mean you want to be someone's gf, google what that means).
>>89580064One reason I prefer not to join any Hololive fanbase is to enjoy the content privately instead. It's one thing if you get called out for criticism in public and it's a valid point. But, if I still got the shits thrown at me on having negative opinions about my favorite and want to express it to her properly (in private)... There are two words for this shit: toxic positivity.Yes, VTubers are human. They make mistakes. THAT'S WHY YOU TELL THEM TO THEIR FACE PROPERLY SO THEY WON'T REPEAT THE SAME MISTAKES!
>>89580064I wonder if she'll apologize, ignore this, or just straight up fully turned into antis now
>>89580866>THAT'S WHY YOU TELL THEM TO THEIR FACE PROPERLYSo not on twitter publicly
>>89580907who? jpnikki or regi?both appear on brat stream, jpnikki still support on next concert (SOAR), regi still clip what brat say on x
>>89580962Yes. Privately. On DM (most of them are closed, anyway), membership stream, or even on M&G if possible. Anyone who invalidates the negative opinion that the fanbase has is a toxic person. Simple as that.Why does the VTuber business even exist anyway if it's true that they don't owe anything to the consumers (fans)?
>>89580064Regi should try joining ID4 she already has her own antis now even before debut
I'm proud that our fellow Indos have learned from the Dutch the power of Devide et Impera
>>89580995>regi still clip what brat say on xYeah, but some people bully her in the replies to her newer tweets.
>>89581693well, there 3 option1) Ignore it2) create new acc +with new name (and kobo might not follow that new acc again)3) apologize
>>89581693Based, we need to teach her some lessons
>>89582094>apologize"Who do you think i am? An idol? No, i'm just a random fans why do i need to apologize? Only content creators need to behave"
>>89581686>Indonesian football team is now just Netherlands B team>Our people is the expert of devide et imperaWe're so close to joining the dutch empire back! I believe in our overload Prabowo repairing our relationship further
>>89582251Speaking about Prabowo...Many people don't realize that there are power differences between the agency overall (including the talent) and the fans. Just like the government and its citizens, the agency has more power than the average fan.>They can promote their VTubers so new people become their fans>They can give many events and products so the fans stay loyal>They can directly or indirectly mold the communities so the undesired fans (from their perspective) can be weeded outIn the COVER case, they can even make success so the fans can praise the CEO of the company where many companies out there are black, Nijisanji included.So, no reason to defend the talents like a white knight and bully the dissidents like the government buzzers would do. They have a support system and they sang many times that they'll overcome the obstacles (like in the new Moona song, Multiverse). The girls will be fine.
>>89543133>Holofans let it slide>Holofans>caring about other companiesBitch please
>>89583375Holofan here, temna seems cool so I don't mind phase
>>89504581To be faaaaaaaiiiirrrYou can literally see the difference in tone betrween the 2 thank you messages.Honestly it's pretty damn funnyhow the fuck did Google fail to translate this indo?
>>89583498uh hu
>>89583759>>89558808
>>89581199>Anyone who invalidates the negative opinion that the fanbase has is a toxic person. Simple as thatKaren mindset
>>89579822wdsmbt
>>89585310Stop teasing brat
>>89554839Kobokerz are Kobonkers?what a revelation!
>>89582162
Kobo won again, she can't keep doing this!
>>89589858The brat is way too powerful
>>89589317Can't wait for her to kill herself flaming the drama once again
>>89589317Indonesians are way too nice. Meanwhile the Japs got away scot-free
>>89591383Yeah, he already deleted his tweet. That faking shid, and the one who behind regina is already leaving her to avoid getting blammed. That paypigs rhytm
>>89592203>Men are smart>Women are dumbnothing's new
imagine apologizing over some PARASOCIAL FUCKS
I get a bit of parasocialism is what fuels financially and emotionally this whole hobby of streamers and semi-pro idols, this isn't my first rodeo being an overseas Idol fan but man, sometimes I feel out of place despite being a frequent SC of my oshi. It's not as bad as this but I have seen/heard some of them sound really whiny over dumb bullshit like twitter likes in person at live events.
>>89589858now real issue appear....
>>89585310naked please
>>89497798What happened?
>>89502240I understand why FWMC were so willing to switch their audience to a JP one.
>>89524290>>89537308It's over moneylets...
>>89601741wonder if she will go the Kaela route and start pandering to EN
>>89602002hopefully
>>89524290ig?
>>89603068meant to quote >>89537308
>>89497798nothing
>>89603320i sure hope this is bait
>>89583759Ungratefull brat
>>89497798stick with the paying ones
>>89600674its not the JPs that are donating, like 90% of their SCs are USD. Even the 3D stream with patra had 60% USD superchats. When they pander to japs with a jap stream they usually get like 10k yen
>>89609131read the thread, retard
>>89499273Deranged groomer fanbase.
