Is it just me, or do holodrones seem to feel threatened by Vshojo Nova?
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>>89633031they're twitch streamers!
>>89633031Sure why not
>>89633212twitch is dying. everyone's gonna migrate to youtube.
>>89633031dude its just one guy spamming vshojo bait threads and samefagging with the same replies
>>89633031What gave that idea? Maybe the 30+ bait threads about vshojo made today
>>89633031As a vshojo watcher i can tell you the same retard spamming bait ang aint thread can you fucking stop !! are you this minde broke because of the words senpai you tryed starting shit yesterday in vsj ?????!!!
>>89633031Nijisanji Retirement Home is open for JP
I don't know, but Hotaru love
Yo anons. New here, i'm mostly into indies, but after watching Mata a couple weeks ago i threw myself into the vshojo hole, but question, why do vtuber fans at large not seem to like them? Considering people like calli seem to have a good eye with vshojo, but mostly why do people hate froot????
>>89634441They were the easiest scapegoat on the board before NijiEN, then Pippa led everyone to containment break en masse and spread those rrats all over the web.
>>89634693Scapegoat for what? And did Pippa do exactly?
>>89634441vshojo and hololive are fine. you're just reading too much schizophrenic poster
>>89634914nonono i know they are fine, im enjoying vshojo a lot, but in some communities when i said i liked froot the reactions where either an awkward silence or people calling her names
>>89634441Holokeks seethe at their existence because it is the antithesis of their assertion that Idol culture and Unicorn pandering are the only valid paths to massive success in Vtubing.
>>89633031Nova is already making huge waves in the JP vtuber scene. They're gonna blow holo out of the water.
>>89635107ok no offense anon, as a vshojo fan i find that incredibly hard to believe
>>89635012Long story short her boyfriend was an abusive shit who threatened to kill and cheat on her so she decided that guy wasn't worth being faithful to.
>>89635073but then why hating on them? Vshojo is not as big as holo so why even bother?
>>89635012she cheated on her abusive husband, a cheater, and an abuser, a perfect fit for each other.
>>89635225And people hate her for that??????????
>>89634441Vshojo was kind of the Nijisanji of /vt/ until 2022. Early vtuber fans hated ANYTHING to do twitch whore ans Vshojo had a similar culture to them.Times have changed though, /lig/ type vtubers are much more accepted, and the most hated members of Vshojo have long since quit the corpo. Combine that with hiring new people that are much more respected like henya and Vshojo is looked at in a much better light these days.
>>89633031They're threatened by everything.Even a random 2view corpo debut triggers HoloSEAs. They were legit mad that anyone was giving attention to the Globie slug on a fucking vtuber board.
>>89635312yeah i've heard people calling her a cheater, but ive found nothing online confirming that? and i mean, isn't it fair to cheat on your husband if hes a massive PoS?
>>89633031I noticed this too as a NijiGOD, fucking holodrones are losers KWAB
>>89635324/k/ did specifically, because the guy was in the military and that makes him above criticism for some reason.
>>89635353oh that's good, but im still weirded out when people say thet love that holo talent or another, but if i say i like a vsj member especially froot i get almost banned
>>89633031Yep they are as threatening as PhaseJP, I'm shaking and crying right now
>>89635524What's froots content and what do you like about her?
>>89635902I mainly like to watch her drawing streams, but generally i listen to her doing random stuff and im ok, i just like her voice and model
>>89635012>>89635524Was this in some Phase related or Phase adjacent discord server?
>>89635504/k/ doesn't actually like the guy. but she cheated on him with their business partner so it became a drama when they weren't receiving their epic heckarino based pepe combat patches. they were just mad at her for sabotaging something they wanted.
>>89633031Seriously, why does /#/ feel threatened at all by this? They'll be lucky if they aren't 3views by December.
>>89636007not really its a very generic server, but a lot of holofans in there, and yeah some phase connect fans, but i noticed that it depends on which kind, pippa fans are quite toxic but the others are very much ok
>>89635012She """""cheated""""" (discord erp while they were separated) on her abusive husband and the guy she """""cheated""""" with got mad she didn't actually fuck him so he spent the last half decade slandering her online and that narrative went completely unchallenged until a couple months ago.
>>89634040It would be absolutely funny if this girl spoke like marine
>>89636142nah man fuck that, this shit sucks, how did he even convince so many people that's the truth tho?
>>89633031lol. yeah surely this time the japs will watch the gaijin chuuba company's JP branch instead of their own domestic corpos. surely it wont end up just like phase JP..... surely
>>89635259They felt persecuted by a vshojo ad in japan.
>>89636236because this is the internet and everyone here hates women as a rule.
>>89636253im the new vshojo fan here, genuine question, why wouldn't they?
>>89636142>discord erpShe sent nudes>they were separatedThey were broken up for a day at most. Her cheating went on for mostly a year >Abusive Being mean and suicidal isn't abuse >slandering her onlineHe had proof and showed it making it not slander
>>89636280can't argue with that, what can i do to help froot other than just economic support?
>>89635324/k/ and the Facebook nest that it spawned did. Bare in mind that while those groups always claim to have a different story, truth be told, it’s a fucking 4chan “bro” group, of course many sided with the military can’t do nothing wrong guy instead of the cheating whore. Despite the fact that it was purely online and never actually escaped those realms, but that was years ago.The reason why it has been dragging her is due to the fact that as told by others, people (that mainly overpraised Holo) wanted others to hate on VShojo for basically being the “satanized” version of Hololive EN at that time, and they threw multiple smear campaigns by approaching communities they were one part of or by digging stuff from their past.
>>89636420send her fan letterscosts you almost nothing but vtubers really enjoy it
>>89636091which doesn't make sense since it was the guy's business to begin with, and the "cheating" was just sexting with someone after he broke up with her.
>>89636389you're the 5th person today saying the same, both on discord and here, can i see the proof? why do you stay silent every time i do ask for it?
>>89636488Go watch AntHime's video
>>89636466how can i do that? genuine question>>89636506
>>89636389you need to let go Ant, even Cinnastixx dumped you to save his own ass.
>>89634441>why do vtuber fans at large not seem to like them?That's only the case /here/
>>89636506i did, it was mostly a rant, and theres another video basically disproving what ant hime said? if i remember was from someone called Erundel, but even without that, all the ant hime video feels like someone bitter just spewing shit
>>89634441Everyone except the holofags here love vshojo. Ironically enough most holos themselves are vshojo fans.
>>89636535Search up AntHime on YouTube. You can't miss it >>89636637There is literally nothing to debunk, it's as straightforward as it gets. The guy she cheated on her husband with showed the screenshots of her cheating on her husband and told the story
>>896335792 more weeks for sure!
>>89636112The greater amount of degrees of separation between yourself and Pippa fans is positively correlated with higher standards of living
>jp>I'll do it again
>>89634441They are the definition of grift, leaded by the ultimate grift chuubaThere's a lot of history of why but let's face it, ain't nobody gonna read all that, just stick with the anons saying Vshojo didn't do nuffin
>>89636725right??? i know calli is a huge vshojo fan and Irys? are there others?
>>89636555I do find it funny that Cinna has been a little weasel and tried to clean his hands multipe times, at first he was like "me and my besties dramafags" and now it's "nah senpai, they recorded me without me knowning". I think the only mistake she ever commit was giving 4chan people a shot
>>89636789most of them
>>89636782huh? why are vshojo members grifters now? that's a new one i've hard today
>>89636838Also Ina i believe? But i can't recall who openly said likes vshojo other that irys and calli
>>89636865If you're not willing to archive dive like any reasonable human being then don't even bother, as I said, stick with the anons saying Vshojo are saints... Babylon saints kek
>>89636911holofags don't hate vshojo, it is vshojofags that hate hololive so they are projecting the hate onto themself.
>>89636931no im not because i am not that willing, and no im sure vshojo members are not saints, also holo talents are, and if you dig deep enough you can find dirt on anyone, thats why i dont understand this way to act, you look like children
>there's a cry thread up with an Ironmouse tweet from the Year of our Lord 2020Jesus Christ what is going on in /#/?
>>89633031Is it just me, or do vshojofriends seem to feel threatened by Idols?
>>89636989??????????? ok this is just dumb, have you ever been inside any vshojo discord? literally everyone in there loves hololive as well
>>89637043Simple anon, the golden rule is to not bring that shit into vtubing and keep it entertaining, has Vshojo done that then their reputation would be pretty good among vtuber fans, but every grift, every fuck up and every hypocrisy wasn't by the agency, a manager or their IRL shit, it was all on their main vtubing account and IRL stuff that was buried was brought up by themselves as their vtuber persona, that's what makes it worse
God it feels so good being a VshojoPhaseChadHow can you appreciate your favourite chuubas when they lack personality and FREEDOM? I pity you holobros…
>>89636865there are genuinely people on this board that somehow think that Ironmouse is lying about her illness and faking it, that's what that anon is getting at by saying 'grifter.' There is no evidence that the illness is fake and anons who say this think they are hinting at some le sekrit knowledge by saying it but are just newfags and it's mostly newfags that were brought here by recent drama Happenings(tm) that regurgitate such things to try to fit in or whatever.The truth is, there is no evidence the illness is fake and Ironmouse has been consistent about it for so long that it'd be impressive if she had faked it the whole time; furthermore, the worst most drama-associated members of VShojo:Nyanners - who is hated for being from/pandering to this site initially before 180-ing, Veibae, for generally having a mean-spitited attitude and getting dropped from doing a planned collab with Kiara after shitalking Hololive, and Silvervale, for just being kind of menhera in general, dramabaiting and /pol/fagging/bringing /pol/fag tourists to this board because of deliberately playing some Harry Potter game.Also Froot who is still in Vshojo is hated for having allegedly cheated on her ex-bf while he was deployed in the military but the evidence for it is shaky and murky at best.That's the long and short of it, hope that helps newfag-kun
>>89633031Is it true that all these bait threads are because Ennacuck uses Mouse as an avatar to pester /#/ all day every day?
>>89637125we are not on discord. just look at OP post>Is it just me, or do holodrones seem to feel threatened by Vshojo Nova?who do you think made this hololive bait thread?
>they're actually trying to convince us they don't hate Vshojo Dude.
>>89636911They don't need to say they like them for anyone reasonable to draw the conclusion that they like most other vtubers
>>89636725>Ironically enough most holos themselves are vshojo fansand many of them will most likely end up joining their ranks after they get tired of the Holo grind
>>89636742>ant shillBuy an ad.
>>89637332>*furthermore, the worst most drama-associated members of VShojo left (the company)is what I meant to say
>>89633031Yes, it’s just you. Maybe your Discord buddies as well, but I don’t think they care enough to think about it when they can just blindly follow your lead.
>>89637345Not that they don't deserve it, but if that's why they've been crying literally all day, that's hilarious.
>>89637197i think of vtubers as just streamers with a coat of anime girls on top, simple as, and streamers can have problems, i do not care for a streamer to be constantly repressed
>>89637419Whatever makes you seethe more
>>89637332Thanks anon that was actually helpful, i do not believe Froot did that personally so ill keep on supporting her, i just hope i dont get insta banned on servers for saying i like her, and hope the situation changes in the future, i appreciate your help
>>89637049>Blames /#/ Suuuureeee
>>89637684Not seeing a difference here
>>89637049stupid question, what does /#/ stand for in this context?
>>89637684/#/fags are bvtmfags though
>>89638048the numbers thread on this boardmostly hormonal drama obsessed teenagers go there so they can feel like they're part of a teamthey also write "kek" a whole lot and don't know how to pluralize words, because plurals don't exist in tagalog and bahasa indonesia
>>89637684bvtm gonna keep making accounts and keep paying for the blue checks because its his only source of income
>>89638048/#/ is the Numbers thread; a thread dedicated to tracking and comparing the numbers of vtubers in the form of their ccv, video views and numbers of supachats etc. The thread and its posters are hated by many of the rest of the board for treating the hobby like a competition as well as for being dramafags in general. The perception of Numbers is that they basically hate every vtuber and vtuber corpo except for Hololive and even then they only like holos who have high numbers - they also particularly hate male vtubers and are thought of as obsessing over and hating HolostarsEN and its fans.The numbers thread is also the hangout spot for several notable schizos/shitposters who try to artificially cause drama such as one holo-anti poster who tries to annoy the Numbers thread by botting the streams of holomembers.Hope that helps desu
>>89638065They're also okbh faggots, incels, holoantis, doxxfags, chuds, pedos, unicorns, racists against philipinos, groomers, indonesian racist and a bunch of dumb teenagers obsessed with numbers like what >>89638188 said.
>>89638597they're racist against themselves?
>>89638656There's alot of white males on the thread judging by the thread activity
>>89638779their english would be a lot better if that was the case
>>89638779I say this because noone seems to insult mutts in the thread but instead just hates indonesian, philipines and sometimes europe by calling them names and trying to exclude them from the fanbase.
>>89638453oh yeah that sounds incredibly toxic, ye anon it was helpful! have a good night dayo
>>89638897Im European anon
>>89638597>>89638869nobody hates SEA more than other SEA, they're racist to each other and have kinds of racism that white people wouldn't even think or care aboutevery single time you see someone accusing someone else of being SEA as and insult on this board it is likely someone who is themselves also some kind of SEA. Actual white people just don't care about it or would just dismiss them all entirely for being SEA in general rather than targeting something specific like them being indonesian or fillipinoTo my understanding, Numbers are themselves primarily SEA and not white, just based on how they postt. white anon
>>89638897no problem anonchama, oyasumi dayo~
>>89639457/#/fags once again
>We will take another shit on the street do you not feel threatened!?!?
Why Phasefags always bait like this. Looks like they feel threatened
>>89639918Speaking of threats, I'd bet 50$ /#/ has already been sending death threats to the Nova members
>>89640923>what a weird narrative
>>89641433They were actively cheering for Henya to die of pneumonia last month. I wouldn't put it past them.
>>89640923>/#/Let's call them what they are: holofags
>>89638188>>89638597Thanks for this insightful feedback. I had my doubt it was a SEA thread but I needed confirmation.
>>89633031>HolodronesSure, phasefag https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXrt4LABQfc&t=1490s
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>>89642383Imagine taking your info from /vt/ and broadcasting it to everyone in your fanbase. Man, Pippa should've been terminated/graduated long ago, sadly phasefags dont have standarts and their CEO is a fucking pussy to do the right thing.
>>89642425I've always said that JP is only popular in SEA and it looks like I was right.
He's sitting in his threads bumping them from page 10Honestly I don't see how you don't feel shame.
>>89637125I'm late to the thread but you seem like a nice person, too nice for this terrible board. and you sound like a person who might actually listen and understand when I say that hate towards vtubers here the vast vast vast majority of the time is due to misogyny and nothing but. this goes twice as much for vshojo because vshojo is the org where women don't have to maintain any notion of idol culture, anons on this board carry the "I hate women outside of when they have to conform and act proper purely to entertain me" torch and the only generals that don't have that vibe are ones for indies and for vshojo. you're welcome to hang in those, we'd be happy to have you. or leave this shithole, I would be even happier if you did that because at least one person can be saved that way
>>89633031Who
>>89633031I don't even who they are.
>>89633031I know you're baiting, but these girls face an uphill battle, let alone being a competition to anyone, I wish them good luck.
>>89633031not even remotely bro
>>89643167If he can do it, so can I
>>89643952Very based poster. Tood good for this site. You should leave too if you're not already addicted.
>>89633579I fucking hope so, then I can finally watch Shondo
>>89655789Not on your data plan, huh
>>89648078That just further raises the question of why /#/ is shitting its pants right now.
>>89657278taking /#/ seriously, don't be retarded anon.
>>89658582You don't spend all day on your computer bumping your seethe threads unless you're serious.
is this the be insecure and seethe at holo thread?jokes aside, vshojoJP are underdogs. vsj's main demographic is EOP and hate jp stuff for some dumb reason and vsj has zero footing in the JP scene.Their competition isn't Holo, especially not HoloJP, it's the likes of PhaseJP or varium or v-pai.Nobody takes them seriously or even expects them to do well, so it kind of makes you root for them.If your gripe is with the bait threads, it's just cause a contingent of anons hate vshojo, it is what it is. nothing to do with this gen specifically.You see the same shit with catalog threads making fun of NijiEN all the time or the constant insecure holomem graduation begging threads.Really the fact that Holo and vshojo get catalog bait means they're successful enough for people to want them to fail
>>89660007Holodrones are not even remotely like the average Holofan though. They are talking about the scum you can find in /#/It certainly doesn't mean they are seething at Hololive.
>>89664507all holofans are holodrones
>>89664507"they" seethe at holo itself, no matter what.see >>89664664
>>89665185If you think this random anon who is likely a falseflagger stands for all vshojofags then it also would be valid to point to any holodrone seething at vshojo and say he stands for every holofag.
>>89665285it's just what I'm saying to begin with though, catalog baiters are different from generalfags
>>89635259Veibae was in Vshojo before she left, and Veibae said bullshit about hololive. The hate from holofags comes from there, mostly. I'm a holofag and I hate Veibae, but I don't give a shit about Vshojo.I hate Twitch and its chat culture with a passion, though.
>>89634441I don't like them because they responded to vtubers getting doxxed under their name by bad actors in secret with their knowledge the most sociopathic way possible - by turning it into drama where they are being victimized by big bad reporting grifter. Which was technically true, but they are a corporation, so even if their conduct hiding the happening would have reflected badly upon them, had they taken responsibility it would have made them look infinitely better than what they actually did.Their actions justify conspiracy theory narratives lmao. Completely incompetent, almost niji tier.
>>89668646>by turning it into drama where they are being victimized by big bad reporting grifterdramatubers are faggots and you are a faggot
>>89668780People simping for corporations doing evil shit are faggots. That's you btw.
>>89668853>dramatuber doxxes vtubers>Hololive issues a statement denouncing dramatubers>this is ok>dramatuber doxxes vtubers>VShojo issues a statement denouncing dramatubers>this is le badyou're a mindless monkey that just follows the opinions of whatever community you're participating in. pathetic.
>>89668909Except the dramatuber wasn't doxxing vtubers in this case, retard. It was a group of people operating under vshojo name, with no connection to vshojo whatsoever. The dramatuber revealed to the public that this was happening. Then vshojo revealed that they knew it had been happening for a long time and that they were hiding it while denouncing the dramatuber. You don't even have the basic facts straight.
>>89633031>>89633628>>89635107>>89635473This is bait for future grudgeposts right? Vshojo poached the most popular vtuber of 2021 from Hololive and she ended up a 3 view. There's no way this JP gen will stay relevant longer than kson.As soon as their numbers drop below 1000 you won't hear the end of it.
>>89634441most of them are just normal egirl streamersthey dont act in character or really do anything that isn't normal streamer crapthey're vtubers for people that would basically be just as happy watching literally anyone else on the front page of twitchthey're also barely a unit, more of just like any other talent agency that helps them with branding and ad deals
>>89635073>vshojo thinks idol culture is bad>ironmouse goes out of the way to erase 90% of details of her personal life from the internethmmm....
>>89636725>holos themselves are vshojo fansI don't consider Mori a member of Hololive. She can join vshojo.
>>89669237>Vshojo poached the most popular vtuber of 2021 from Hololive>poachYou guys really need to know what certain words mean.
>>89670071Ironically the only person VShojo has actually poached is Michi. And that wasn't even a company decision, Matara was just pestering her to quit Niji because it was making her miserable.
>>89670137pikamee?
>>89670005What about Polka?
>>89670477On her way out since January and literally was a free agent for a month. Poaching would mean she signed with them as she was still Pikamee, and no, a collab isn't poaching.
>>89655789just sub to her VOD channel on YT, it's updated almost daily and ad blocking is a lot easier, too.
conclusion: luck game
I don't use Twitch, so I genuinely don't think about them at all
>>89673030I do use Twitch but I still don't care about them, only came here for the blood sports.
/vsg/ are completely EOP, I've no idea why they're excited about Japanese only streamers debuting.It's like how they try to talk well about Nazuna's time in the group but anytime people tried to discuss anything she said, nobody was able to respond.
>>89673383the jp side of vshojo has their own thread and didn't mingle with the general thread a lot. nazuna had her own in /jp/ Henya had the vomsfags which are turbo jp and ksonfags are self explanatory. I wouldn't say ''completely'' but a big part ofc.
>>89673712last time I checked /999/ they were pondering whether to unite with the Kson thread, take the new chuubas and create /vsjjp/+/voms/
>>89673712>the jp side of vshojo has their own thread and didn't mingle with the general thread a lot.Most of those weren't the VShojo fans, though. Especially in Nazuna's case, they were almost exclusively former Rushia fans. That was the case with her fanbase in the East, as well. On top of that, the majority of her former Rushia fans hated her time with VShojo as Nazuna especially when she started to make it very obvious a few months in that she was profoundly unhappy with the company. Those aren't the people still posting on the catalog about how they "miss" Nazuna.
>>89673907>the VShojo fansno such thing
>>89673797well that's a good thing right? also good luck because the kson thread became /xhlgg/
>>89673961>no such thingThere were people posting about Nazuna in /vsj/ who weren't watching her as Miguel or who didn't watch Rushia at all. I think it's fair to call those people "The VShojo fans".
>>89637674‘Everyone makes mistakes’‘Gotta donate to that pro mutilation group’‘Doenst donate to anyone’That girl is no good, she is just faking it
>>89674270>done multiple charity streams for several different charitieswow it's like you're retarded
Vshojo will always be a joke so long as Froot is in it.
>>89670497Haachama too. Obviously Coco was a fan.
>>89674525Buy an ad Ant
>>89670497Not to undermine the point too much but I doubt Polka's Japanese is at the point that she's going to be aware of any of the drama surrounding Froot.
>>89674664I hope Polka trains her japanese so one she can collab with Frooto-chan.
>>89674664Polla would share her porn with froot
>>89633031This is like the 9th bait thread I see today.
no? why would anyone be threatened by vshojojp of all things
