hire less retarded EN "livers"

>>89698097
Admitting the company's/your own mistakes would've been a great start

>>89698097
Like 80% of their issue was EN management being retarded. Not sure if it was just lack of communication or what but planning the black screen stream within hours of the CEO's apology was insane.

>>89698097
Once the black screen happened, it was already a lost

>have problems with your English branch
>handle it in a non English way
>English fans riposte your apology because it comes off as insincere
>didn't learn anything from that
"Captain the ship is heading into a torrential rainstorm."
"Sail straight ahead. It's the storms fault if we get struck by lightning."
It was never about the talent, most viewers don't give a shit beyond maybe one or two. He needed to see how the fans would perceive him and Japanese culture is alien to most passerby EN fans. Ooo. Japan. Novelty.
He needed to be very fun when he was very professional and serious. Now everyone sees Niji as a row of jail cells with Vtubers in each one with Riku walking down as a Warden threatening anyone that gets out of line.
Should have entertained, CEO of an entertainment company.

>>89698097
All he had to do was prevent the EN retards from doing the black stream right before he released this
The biggest corpo fuckup on vtuber history

>>89698614
>He needed to be very fun
What the fuck are you talking about? He needed to be "fun" during a fallout of one of the employees attempting suicide? That's the most appropriate time to be serious. The message he sent was a wrong message, that's obvious, but the tone he delivered it with was appropriate.

>>89698097
he could of faults flags a sinking of he yacht,
plant bodies of dragoons with c4 strapped to them

>>89698097
>Not hire Elira's friends
>Absolutely not hire Enna, Luca and Uki
>Don't let pajeets run the EN
>Don't have EN bend the knee to the woke crowd

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If they had just avoided the black stream they could have somewhat survived at least. There were A LOT of Nijiniggers who wanted to believe this whole thing could be chalked up to muh bad management and were all in on that "hate the company not the talents!!" shit. They might have even fallen for their recent "event spam" tactic and thought that "management is improving" (lol).

But Whorelira and Vox had to have a woman moment and singlehandedly make it clear that
>the organs fully stand behind Riku-sama
>Selen really is treated like an enemy by them
>they were going out of their way to harass her in real-time (moving their stream just to keep overlapping with her when she delayed it)

None of the "boycott" shit really started until the black stream.

>>89698872
You're right. Fun may have been the wrong word, I meant comforting. Supportive. Warm. In short they should have rallied around their girl instead of leaving her out to dry, hence the storm metaphor.

>>89698097
>After careful review we have determined that Selen did not break any rules and her termination was the work of an employee who went against our company policy, that person has been terminated.
>Selen's contract will be reinstated and we apologize to her fans
Also behind the scenes they give her anything she wants for the rest of her time in Niji. It's the only thing that could have saved them.

He should've let his apology video to be the only commentary on Niji EN situation, maybe add some statement that they're actively reviewing the state of the company itself and some other corpotalk about improvement, procedures, yadda yadda. Also should've stopped the black screen stream from ever going live, reprimand/fire the person who had this idea, scrape the footage from the existence, and pray that no one ever will talk about it.
In my opinion the PR situation was still salvageable until then. Niji and other entertainment companies rely on their members to maintain a positive image of themselves on stream. Making your vtubers to hard drop that kayfabe just to slander the recently fired, suicidal, and well-liked employee will make people lose their trust in your branding. That's what killed the remaining crumbs of benefit of the doubt many fans had given Nijisanji during this whole fiasco. I think I am one of those people, because even to this day, I'm no longer willing to engage with Niji made content. It just doesn't feel right to me. I don't actively hate on the company or their livers, I avoid the drama channels and drama obsessed retards, because I simply don't want to give Niji any attention.

>>89698097
literally nothing. they could've just shut the fuck and released the usual standard termination document (creative different etc etc) instead of going out of their way to shit on selen

>>89700604
Damn, forgot to say that I've never been like, a full blown Niji fan, just a normie who kinda observed the stuff they did from the distance, watched some clips, maybe dropped in to watched a stream or two, and overall treated them like a holo EN friendly competition.

To this day I still don't understand how Selen's termination affected them so much. Or was it really just investors going "Why are you enforcing the rules and firing your biggest female EN talent?"

>>89701381
They just handled it in the worst possible way, that's why

literally nothing
they exposed themselves
attacked the victim
and then trotted out this weird ass apology
had they done nothing the biggest bombshells of the whole incident would never have even happened

>>89701381
They will literally teach classes on how badly they did the PR on it, for decades. One of the worst public fuckups on record.

>>89701608
>>89701457
But the bad PR was just on EN's side. All of JP pretty much went "Why is EN complaining, she broke the rules."

Get rid of Elira you fucking idiot.

I said before you could do it easily by just firing Enna. Millie would leave on her own. The others would shape up once they don't have this massive bitch pushing them out of alignment.

But now that events have transpired, you have to get rid of Elira. Should have done it immediately

>>89701709
Oh she broke the rules, but what about Luca? Or Kyo? Or Enna?
They broke the rules way fucking worse and got away without even a suspension

>>89701828
JPs are oblivious of any of these 2views

>>89698097
not that, not any of that. Should have just gone quiet and streamed more. moment they choose to do something it went down hill and lost the narrative.

>>89698465
also doing it at the same time she went live, added like an extra 20% more fuel to the fire. Intended or not.

>>89698097
giving rosemi big tits

>>89701709
It's Niji EN we're talking about, not JP. Western fans don't give a fuck about JP, and vice versa. When you enter an unfamiliar market, you want to familiarize yourself with whatever you are getting into, which is why corpos remove the gay from their films when showing them in Saudi Arabia. Now we can just sit and watch their EN branch slowly crumble because Niji has failed to do their due fucking diligence. They failed to hire someone with minimal knowledge of how would western fans react to this shitshow. Like, come on, you don't need PhD in marketing to predict how would westerners react to corpo vs vulnerable ex-employee conflict, and it's no longer an issue for the Japanese to find some Joe that would guide them through the gaijin mind.

>>89698097
he tried it what he does on jp, send his rabbid dog fanbase against the dissidents, and intimidate anyone calling them out with threats of sue as well. although that didnt work

>>89698097
At that point they could do literally nothing
Just not do the black stream and they'll be fine
They'll still take a hit, but that would've been recoverable
Instead, the entire western vtubing sphere, and even decent chunks of the whole internet know how shitty people Nijien management and select talents are

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>>89698097
99% of all the PR issues wouldn't have come out when they did, if they had simply given Selen a bland termination notice rather than the one trying to throw her under the bus.

>>89698097
The absolute best case would have been if they gave Selen a silent Yugo style graduation.

>>89708292
Wait you peoples don't really think they are bad person because defend company job do you?

Just terminate her with some respect and leave what happened behind closed doors instead of trying blame anyone. Everything kind of falls out from there. Black screen stream wouldn't have happened if they had a policy of "don't talk about it".

But such a policy would require changes at the top of EN management. You could see as far back as Zaion that EN management absolutely had too big an ego to take a blow on the chin for the good of the brand.

Whoever they were, upper management on the JP side didn't see the problem for quite a long time, so it all comes down to Riku not putting the right people in place.

>>89698097
He never cried in front of his streamers like Yagoo. Bitches love a softie.

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Nothing.
The more time passes, the more the wider EN vtubing community proves itself to be compromised of nothing more than hysterical children and dopamine starved addicts looking for their next fix, not a single soul bothered to give them the benefit of the doubt, and they since couldn't directly tear the company down they went after the people involved in it, because, doxxing, harassment, endless torture porn made of them, that's sure to endear you to them, they are after all trying to save you from the evil black company.
This far in, you still have people attacking people like Elira, artists that just dropped them without a second though, VSPO "fans" going after Remia for daring to collab with Elira and Finana, in a sense NijiEN is in its own little bubble, not by choice, but simply because the western community just needs a bad guy and EN is in it, not the company of course, the livers themselves.
All in all, I think it was a good thing it happened, really showed how utterly fucking worthless western fans are, no loyalty, no intelligence, just mindless seals looking for something to clap or boo at.

They say the best way to grow to something you love is to involve yourself in the community for it, and boy did this incident prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt, the opinion of western fans and dramafags is worth less than the piece of dogshit you scrape off a shoe.

>>89698097
realistically he could have done nothing because he didn't (and doesn't) give a fuck about EN, when he became aware of the situation it was a giant unrecoverable mess.

>>89698097
Unironically shut down EN to cut their losses.

>>89709564
Ok, Finana

>>89698097
just by not doing the black screen stream, the damage would have been ten times smaller
because this spread blame from the company to their talents and lead to mass unsubscribing and low CCV they never recovered from

>>89709564
>Nijis did nothing wrong, it´s the fans fault
what?

>>89709106
Care to reword that
I can smell the ESL off that post

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>>89698097
dance

>>89698097
He should've offered Selen an NDA with a blank check. Whatever price that is is still better than the share price depreciation.

>>89698097
Literally just not let the black screen stream happen
Hate was already fading, and his statement would make things calm again
but the three retards fucked it all up by doing that stream, because it became clear that the liver were also in it, not just the corpo being retarded

>>89698097
Tonegawa Dogeza

>>89698097
after the black stream, nothing.
Hell, they haven't even done anything (publicly) to Doki since then and they're still feeling repercussions. If they go on long enough, the channels WILL run out of people who'll unsub and eventually start gaining again, but waiting that long would displease the shareholders.

You know the average catalog shitter is retarded when the usual answer is either

>Give Selen everything she wanted
or
>Immediately fired everyone

>>89698097
post Elira's pits

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>>89713088
>>Give Selen everything she wanted
I mean they did.
She wanted to leave.
Also just checked since I was curious. Yup, they're still dropping. Finana dropped another 1k today.

>>89698097
Pull a grand 'the tsar is good, its the advisors that are wrong' move.
Make a show of purging en management for their crimes while promising some vague improvements (works great with their actual plan of upping content, doing the ar live and 3ds etc).
Apologise for en managements lack of tact in handling what was clearly a delicate situation and insufficient oversight of them by the japanese branch (take no responsibility for the actual situation itself to avoid any liability) and transfer the selen ip and channels to doki unconditionally as a show of goodwill.
Then tell the livers to subtly talk positively about 'new management vs old management' in a month or so and start dropping as much content as you possibly can.

>>89698097
Not force Elira to do the black screen stream.
The dogeza was actually a decent video, but the black screen stream pretty much buried EN.

>>89698097
Put out a way shorter and more amicable termination notice; something roughly to the effect of
>Selen broke the rules (by uploading the MV without proper clearance) so we're terminating her contract. We're sorry to see her go and wish her the best in her future endeavours
...and then leave it at that. No "negligible" statement, no black stream. There'd definitely still be some backlash, but it wouldn't be nearly as bad.

>>89698097
not allow Elira to post her video
it was THAT easy

>>89713394
the death spiral is real. can't even attract new people in a year. it's over

>>89698097
get western pr people or do your research on the market you're communicating with. the japanese way of doing business and apologizing doesn't translate outside japan. ceo apology stream is just meme material outside japan.

>>89713394
Grim, wasn't Ike like, 2k away from getting a million subs?

>>89713394
If they gave Selen everything she wanted, she'd never have been fired in the first place. Or alive

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>>89714867
Yeah. Sadly socialblade doesn't show the exact subs since he was doing a push for 1m. I think he actually was about 2k away before it was ripped away from him.

>>89698176
Philippino*

>>89709564
Wow, this is a pretty good larp. Reads exactly like a NijiEN talent seething at their ex-fanbase for leaving them.
>>89713394
Interestingly , the JP girl and that vantablack fellow (and maybe others) are more than making up for the decline. The branch's total subs has actually been growing decently, if you don't remove graduated channel subs. They just need to learn JP and embrace the merge. Of course, that would be surrendering their global expansion yet again.

>>89716992
The growth for Vanta lately isn't his usual and I don't pay enough attention to know why he grew so explosively.
That said, he was always growing pretty well and seems to be one of the better nijis. If they were to pick a new face for reworking their marketing, he'd be a good start. Hell, he even cancelled a stream and replaced it with a 11 minute rant just telling the sisters off and yelling at them for harassing people.

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>>89698097
>Looking back what could he have done to win the PR war?
this

>>89717376
I only remember vanta from his stunned reaction to Hex's ashes/goldfish "joke". Yeah, they could certainly do worse than pick a relatively fresh, yabless face to front a reformed Niji. The older gens are either too tainted or too demoralized.

>>89717552
how would becoming a metal fan change things?

>>89709564
>Constantly demonstrates outright evil, third-world behaviours that violate any and all first-world nations' norms and practices if not straight up laws
>"No it was the entirety of the EN fans who behaved like children, we should be perma-contrarian and advocate for the other side instead for the sake of not being like normalfags"
>>>/pol/

>>89717834
They better act fast while he's still clean, the Ethyria girls are openly thirsting for him

anybody has a link to the black stream?

>>89698097
Not be a soulless suit. In other words, nothing.

>>89720941
just go to her channel and sort by viewcount

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>>89698097
Start by not giving the opponent the win.
For the love of God, Just stop saying dumb shit.

>>89723093
I wonder how many returning/new viewers go
>Hey, cute streamer, I wonder what's her best stuff
>*Sort by popular*
>Huh, no thumbnail. I guess I can spare 15min to see if it's good.
>Oh. Oh no.

Hire John Wick

>>89698176
simple as

>>89698097
Hire english-speaking talents from countries that don't have proper worker's rights or antiwork culture.
It's wild that NijiEN isn't exclusively SEA.

>>89698097
so is it finally over for nijien?
new debut cant generate new audience anymore and current livers eventually graduate one by one

>>89728831
The thing is that closing the EN branch would absolutely crater their stocks. Failing in the biggest foreign market on top of the other multiple times they've shuttered their foreign branches doesn't make a good prospect for investors.

>>89728831
They are in maintenance mode, and in that awkward spot where they still make enough money to not be ignored, but not enough to actually be a factor for Anycolor

>>89730986
That's a sad but very real comparison.
Maintenance mode, oof.

The black screen and ceo apology were independent actions not coordinated. my source is the ether

>>89698097
NOT doing the black stream, that's it, I genuinely believe the company wouldn't be in this state without that stream, it was a really "mask off" moment that left no fucking doubts about how fucking bad things are there.

>>89730986
they will stop eventually.
they spent a lot of money on them post selen fiasco and none of them are working. encounter, running ads on encouncter because low view, cancelled expo, flop 3D debut, and more.
even worse their organs are still leaving

>>89731818
Anykara financial statement when

>>89698097
Commit ritual sudoku

>>89731818
They really can't though, apparently. At least not without setting up some kind of replacement to keep shareholders thinking they still have a future. If they were to shutter EN right now, the investors would flee in droves.

>>89698097
all he had to do was tell organs to shut the fuck up

Done nothing instead of anything he did.
Alternatively, not run a black company.

>>89732056
for now yeah. with no way to gain new audience anymore, nijien growth has been stopped. they will keep reclining until all of them graduate

I honestly think he could have tanked it if it was only him with that stream apologizing
the black stream fucked it all up thoughbeit

>>89715155
>>89713394
I can't wait for the one year anniversary and we can look at all the totaled effects of the event

>>89698097
Apologize for black stream, claim some middle manager made Elira do it and it wasn't her or their idea (even if that is a lie it is frankly the only thing that could be said to get her out of that hot water), wish Selen well in her future endeavors.

>>89733941
Yeah. God, what a fucking year.

>>89698097
If they had just said that she was terminated due to a major contract violation, everyone would know what that was and neutrals would have thought that they were in the right. There's nothing she could have said against that without looking bad to most neutrals.
Instead, they cooked up a bunch of unsupportable allegations that made themselves look worse than their target. Then amazingly doubled down.

>>89698097
Treat their livers with respect?
Is it that hard?

>>89734782
they would be nothing without the rainbow company. Respect goes both ways

>>89734498
She'd have just dropped her story like she said she would and the same would happen except she gets to make it sound as bad as possible

>>89698097
Doing literally nothing would have been better than the black screen fiasco and everything following it.

>>89734834
I'm not too sure about that. She was being pretty careful not to reveal stuff that wasn't in response to something Niji said, perhaps for legal reasons. If she just dropped all that without Niji bringing the topic up first, that could have legal implications. And even if she did so anyway, a lot of neutrals would have thought she was just being a typical disgruntled employee. The reputational damage would have actually been negligible.

>>89698233
This and Pledge that they were going to fix the issues with the company and actually fix the issues.
Bafflingly, it seems like they are just letting themselves die a slow death? Their female talents are all but trying to escape before they have a mental breakdown. Its kinda sad. >>89698997
Although he can't do much about people that had already been hired, beyond fire them, but If I was riku, I would have rented a building, flown out to America with some senior staff and translators and I would have fired and hired competent people and fixed this shit before more damage was done. Even with the black screen insanity, they could have stoped the bleeding by showing some remorse and fixing the problems and showing they are better. But as far as I could tell they are more than willing to let the wound fester and get infected. Even cutting the EN branch off would have been better than this. now it is infecting the main body and their stock is still tanking. You think Japanese investors are going to keep putting money is a company that keeps losing value and keeps showing their hands are corrupt and uncaring? Even if the Japanese don't care about that they care about making money and Niji is just failing at every turn.
>>89699939
This would have been alot better but the damage was done there was not going back to NIji at that point. But they could have turned the situation around and been civil with Doki and prevented alot more damage. The Doki situation was bad, but it was the constant fumbling that really did the damage. IF they fixed the situation immediately they would have still taken damage but it would have stopped. People would have moved on. Instead they gave a half ass apology while speaking out of the other side of their mouth with the black screen, followed by having a year long slow death spiral of Niji EN and no improvement in site. The constant reminders of how terrible this company is has now cemented into the vtuber culture. At least in the EN side, they are done.

>>89734834
I doubt it. The threat was just a way to strongarm them into letting her go without a fuss. Had they refused, she might've released a redacted document, but from what we know and have seen, it would've never done anything other than implicate the company in mishandling her, leaving out the organs' involvement entirely. This likely would've forced a termination anyways, but I can't imagine this ever coming to pass.

Thenagain I couldn't imagine that everything that happened actually happened. It still feels like a fucking bad joke. If someone wants to stop working for you, and they clearly have a case to annul the contract, just... doing all of that to kick her on the way out is just baffling and inhuman to me.
The best I've heard was that it was some kind of bizarre pride thing, but... ugh.

>>89701521
This. It was colossal fuck up after colossal fuck up for a year strait. if they just fired Selen with a normal letter of parting ways and worked things out to smooth things over behind the scenes, then they would have, at worst had a bad month or two. Even if the selen situation happed as it did, they could have came out and stated they were unaware of how bad the situation was and they would take mesurse to prevent something like this from ever happening again, and the move on those words, it would have still been bad but they would have recovered well enough. I have no idea what they think they are doing?

>>89708725
This. It would have been even better if when they found out about the suicide they should have just worked with her, paid her out or give into a few of her demands and let her graduate quietly.

>>89709170
This. Even with how everything played out, if he would have walked his ass off his yacth and made some changes and showed that he gave a damn about his livers and would not let anohter Selen situation happen again, that would have done alot. There still would have been damage, but I bet a decent amount of people would have given them a second chance to prove themselves. Instead they have proved they don't give a fuck and now the damage is done. The last few waves that joined when all this went down are doing worse than their PLs were.

>>89734821
Where's the respect from the company then?

>>89709564
I'll bite. Sure some of the stuff you said is true, (most of it is bull shit though.} But in the same way parasocial relationships vtubers use to connect and make money with their fans, like all relationship, it has a bad side. Ever seen how nasty a divorce can be? it the same logic. People who loved Niji EN got their hearts ripped out, not only from the company but by some of the very livers they loved. What did you expect to happen? Most of us don't want anything bad to happen to the livers still stuck there, but at the end of the day they are still at the "evil Black company" and honestly we don't know who all is a bully and who is a victim. We waited for Niji to do something... anything to make themselves out to be good or to fix themselves but they never did. Not it is too late... the damage is done and all we can do is hope the good livers get a clean graduation from that hell hole.

>>89713394
Its way worse than that. Most people won't bother unsubbing. They will just stop watching.

>>89713439
This

>>89698097
If I had a job, I wouldn't have went so hard on him. There was nothing he could've done

>>89715066
They didn't even need to give her everything. they just needed to stop playing manegment games with her.

>>89726865
Thats impossible now. If they can get anyone, it will only be the truly desperate. the last few waves had better numbers on their PLs.

>>89698097
Don't do the black stream and 80% of the issues are solved. A less accusatory termination notice and it's 90%.

>>89701815
i bet he likes his coffee black

>>89701709
A lot of people even on the EN side concede that the termination itself was justified, because she did indeed break the rules. However, the mismanagement that led Selen to take the actions that warranted termination, and the mishandling of literally every facet of the fallout after her suspension leading to her termination, is what caused the public opinion of them to plummet.

>>89698097
Obviously there were significant issues prior to this that should have been addressed to prevent things getting this far, but since I'm not privy to internal workings of NijiEN I won't speculate.

So, if we take everything leading up to and including Selen being terminated as a given, then what they should have done is:
>1. Properly inform Selen and the other talents about their intent to terminate her contract before announcing it.
>1a. Do not provide any other details to other talents besides Selen
>1b. Ensure all relevant account access and mods are removed
>2. In the announcement notice, say ONLY that the contract has been terminated, when it will be effective from, and what impact that will have on current merch or events involving her (offer refunds as a concession for fans who would then miss out). The tone must appear serious but sincerely apologetic
>3. Shut the fuck up forever

This also means the following actions will not be taken:
>1. DO NOT write a manifesto of all the wrongs she allegedly committed
>2. DO NOT allow the talents to make any comments on the situation except to direct them to the above noted announcement notice
>3. DO NOT publicly respond to any comments Doki made about the situation or make legal threats to her
>4. DO NOT make the "negligible impact" shareholder statement
>5. DO NOT allow the "A Message from NIJISANJI EN" black stream to occur, especially not while Doki was streaming
>6. DO NOT post the "regarding concerns" tweet subsequent to the black stream

Ideally this should have mitigated most of the backlash so that Riku can also
>7. DO NOT post the "Addressing Your Concerns" video
But if not then this video was by far the least bad of everything they did do so with a little work I think this could have made for a genuine PR save

This wouldn't make everything all fine and dandy, but I reckon it would have at least insulated a large part of the dumpster fire that they ended up pouring gasoline onto. Considering Cover managed to get through Mel's and Gamma's terminations without any noteworthy PR blow simply by posting the statement and shutting the fuck up, it's a good model to follow. Hell, even the Rushia situation didn't dent them that much and they largely followed the same strategy there.

>>89698233
I mean he did in his apology video. It was just completely overshadowed by the black stream that happened a few hours earlier.

>>89713049
>eventually start gaining again
that flat out won't happen because everyone even slightly into this hobby already knows that NijiEN is terrible and will avoid it like the plague
For anyone that's gonna get into vtubers in the future, their first impression of Nijisanji and NijiEN is gonna be the Selen fiasco, and they'll likely just go somewhere else
This is the end of NijiEN. It's over. They cannot recover, and still thinking they can is niave

>>89737796
The dumbest part about the termination announcement was the part where they went "She accused us privately of some stuff but we'll just make those accusations public first because we think she might go public with them first otherwise." Like... why?

>>89738605
FIRST MOVER ADVANTAGE DORYAAAAA

>>89737850
They did that with Yugo and the backlash was minor
They REALLY just expected to pull another Zaion, lmao

>>89698097
Drop his apology sooner, so the brainlets at EN would know to not go forward with the black stream.

>>89713394
>Feesh dropped again
Impossible, I thought she only lost a substantial amount of subs when streaming

>>89698097
He could have ordered his henchmen to terminate Selen normally. Like just say she's fired and leave it at that, how hard could it be?

>>89738904
But but but sire, if we don't punish the livers who leave without our blessing, how will we stop the rest from leaving whenever they feel like it? How will we crush their spirits when they can just simply... *leave* whenever they feel like it?? We might actually have to... offer a competitive environment and cut?!

>Post Real Life's Invisible Code for Authentic Vtubing

>>89739724
>offer a competitive environment and cut?!
it's the competitions' fault. If only they didn't exist

>>89698097
At this point even if Niji released the sincerest of apologies to Sayu and Doki, it's too late

>>89698097
EN management not knowing their place and no, i dont mean Elira, she gets way too much hate when it was known since Day1 LazuLight that management ALWAYS used her as a spoke person. Also, kneecapping everyone's projects in favor Luxiem money.

>>89698097
Put a bullet into whoever was in charge of the black screen stream. His own PR statement alone would have bought him enough time to clean house behind the scenes and sell it afterwards as a "new phase of transparency and improvement" of his company.
Instead, the black screen stream destroyed any credibility left and lead to the endless spiral downwards.

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>>89742322
It was already on a downward spiral though. What I want to emphasize is that the content of NijiEN itself is shit. The black screen stream just gave people with autism the excuse they were waiting for the leave. Streams had been unpleasant for a long time and people were steadily leaving

pic related, do you like seeing your oshi shipping herself with a deep-voiced BFE dude?

>>89738711
Not gonna lie I entirely forgot about Yugo being terminated, so evidently it did work for him

Reach a settlement with selen and just apologize. That's it but it's too late now.

>>89743045
Is he BFE? I thought he was just a dude.

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>>89698097


The problems of NijiEN management are all downstream of Nijisanji management in general. The whole culture is rotten, meaning the people in charge of choosing people are rotten.

Put simply, all their decision making is typical of people who don't actually care about or value what it is they are doing, and that starts with Riku-chan himself.

They cheap out on talent-facing support staff while splurging on sinecures for more parasitic paper pushers at HQ.

They indiscriminate about talent itself, shotgunning 'acceleration' in hopes of landing a 'hit', while not grasping that all the 'misses' don't simply go away, they make literally everything worse, because personnel is policy, and now you have shitters on the inside poisoning everything. If you have a 10 man team of 9 great guys and 1 shitter, you have 1 shitty team. And they have a lot more than just one shitter. On every level of organization.

They are bureaucratic managerial proceduralists where everything with vitality is strangled in red tape, which is a cancer that any large scale organization has to deal with or suffer from, but which they embody as a personification.

You have situations like one single staff-san handling the personal assistance of an entire branch, never mind individual talents. People and operations in general are highly siloed with little cross-talk or community or overlap of discourses. Everyone is off in their own box unawares of what everyone else is doing. Ignorance and miscommunications run rampant. The most important company values are sycophancy and backstabbing to secure your own position in the company sinecures. The last thing that pays is honesty in anything. Never be the first person to propose anything unless it is to double down on something you were already doing even harder. Asscovering is the word of the day. In other words everyone is a hack to whom 'vtubing' as such is irrelevant or an impediment even. On and on.

>>89749874
It's baffling how every single branch they've attempted collapses in the same way, while the main branch has been showing signs of the same internal issues as all of the other, yet nothing is ever done to change it.

>>89698097
Simplest answer would be to agree to Selen’s request to graduate and give unspecified “irreconcilable creative differences” as the official reason. No book of grudges to pick apart for hypocrisy, no reason for Doki to mention suicide attempts, no accidentally outing the NijiEN members as bullies, no self incrimination by those members in the PR atrocity of the black screen stream.

>>89698097
Not doing the defamatory public termination notices would help. I don't understand why the fuck these corporations think that doing this shit is a good idea. Keep the reasons private, it's not rocket science.

>>89744639
only because yugo got a lawyer involved which is why they couldnt zaion her

>>89701381
The PR backlash happened to coincide with a lackluster quarterly report that showed that the branch’s revenue was already declining. That report being about the quarter before all that went down, and overseas expansion being touted as a major driver of the company’s growth, the writing was on the wall, and their handling of Selen destroyed their chances of recovery from a preexisting downward trend.
>>89701608
Probably only in terms of Japanese companies understanding foreign markets and their expectations. This is a PR failure at such a fundamental level that there’s not really much to learn since everything they did flew in the face of basic common sense.

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>>89698097
bow faster

>>89698097
If all other companies were to stop treating their employees fairly.
It's the comparison with others that shows how lacking Nijisanji is.
But if one can suppress this knowledge, it can seem they are equal. Like they can do in JP. With fans repeating all corpos are like this.

>>89709564
I agree that some of the behavior is inexcusable by the fan base.
But Loyalty? Isn't what all the dragoons did not loyalty? The people around Selen, be it holostars, holomems, or the various people did to stand by her not be considered loyalty?

There IS loyalty, you just refuse to accept it because it's not loyalty to YOUR team.

>>89755256
Not fast enough.

As much as some of the Holos complain about having homework thrown onto them by management at the last minute or the perms guy being fucking retarded, at least it seems like they have a cordial enough relationship with their respective direct managers where they can at least throw playful barbs at them without it coming across as mean-spirited.

I've always felt that with NijiEN the moment breathe a word of disagreeing with management you get added onto the queue for a future graduation and from that point onwards any perceived slights just move you closer to the start of the line unless you get on your knees and do shit like the black stream which was quite possibly the most damaging fuck-up in long-term corpo history since literally no one in EN has gained subs for almost a year now because of it.

>>89760967
The graduation queue is a reward, not a punishment.

>>89698097
not drive his talents to suicide

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Why does his hair look like the head of a dick?

>>89763403
Just living up to the dickhead moniker

>>89732056
As someone who's been keeping tabs for /news/. I can tell you for sure that a majority of the investors have already abandoned ship. Based off some people that went to the shareholder's meeting, there was only a 1/3rd of an audience compared to last year.

The trading volume (essentially how much the stock is bought or sold) has been in the gutter outside of major events like the brief crash and financial reports. They used to often hit a million or quite close to that (800-900k) nowadays them hitting 700k would be considered a huge day.
And to be frank, it's likely most investors have already accepted that the ship has sunk with NijiEN. The branch even before the Selen termination has stagnated in revenue, before it put a right and proper hole in the hull with Q4 and Q1.

>>89698176
impossible

>>89753889
Was that the quarter that saw a 40% decline yoy? I think it was comparing to when Luxiem had it's anniversary.

>>89771411
If it’s YoY, then there wouldn’t be such a huge drop for their 2nd anniversary (not to mention the drop being offset by the addition of new members) if the branch was healthy.

>>89701709
On that note, I personally did see a lot of people over there that once the shitshow was fully translated, they also demanded for EN to take responsibility for all the shitshow. But that was a handful of comments in an ocean of indifference and jokes.

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>>89753650
The fact that apparently Doki's lawyer was so god damn good at their job to the point they actually fucking scared NijiEN management into shooting first will baffle me till the last days of the fandom.

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Hiring one (1) competent PR person and one (1) competent HR person, as well as actively discouraging and combating highschool-bully-esque clique culture in your company would have prevented everything.
But I guess than it would no longer be nijisanji.

>>89698097
sacrifice his yacht to repair the damage done to and by the organs and get a cut to his paychecks to pay for proper en management

>>89775765
>Hiring
I'm gonna stop you right there