Kay Yu declares war>Download linkshttps://kay-yu.itch.io/holocurehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2420510/>HoloCure on X:https://twitter.com/HoloCureGamehttps://twitter.com/HoloCureDev>HoloCure Wiki:https://holocure.wiki.gg/wiki/HoloCure_WikiPrevious: >>89758984
>balancing a single-player game
>>89793507How do I farm Fan Letters?Is there any trick to it at all?I've done 10 runs through random stages since the update and only gotten a single one.I bought the Rabbit Foot from the Casino but it doesn't seem to help much at all.
>>89793652Basically just rush Halu in Endless and pray
Gamer status?
>>89793677i will not be filtered
>>89793677Seething.
When does the game get difficult?
>>89793507There's a couple easy things you can do to prevent this update from going through. Go to your steamapps folder. It's usually located in: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps Look for the file appmanifest_2420510.acf Open up the Properties and set the file to read only.If you stop here, it just blocks the game from updating. If you want to actually PLAY the game you have to follow the next step.4) Set Steam to Offline mode (Steam menu on the upper left --> Go Offline).This freezes updates and allows you to launch HoloCure without updating it.If you accidentally updated the game do not fear, you can still get an archive of the previous version (from 2 days ago): In your browser, type this in the address field: steam://nav/console. Your browser will ask you if you want to open this link in Steam, click Continue/Yes. You will now be presented with a console. If you've ever screwed around with a Command Prompt or you're a hobbyist dev this should be familiar. Copy-paste this command and hit enter: download_depot 2420510 2420511 530747257288547602 This downloads basically the full build of HoloCure right before the nerf. The old version will download here: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\content\app_2420510\depot_2420511 Backup the current HoloCure installation and drop all the files from the depot into here. Also might be a good idea to backup your save file.Instructions based off of this post here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/1e5798m/preventing_game_update/ldjxpa7/Use Reddit's save feature to bookmark this post.If you want to know what you're typing in - every successful build of this game is actually saved inside a depot. This depot stores each new build Kay Yu and his team uploads. This is their "public" branch - every public version of HoloCure that you've played since its Steam inception is located here. And yes, there IS a "secrettesters" branch, but it's obviously locked behind a password.The command you're using is telling it to download the build from 2 days ago (11/16).2420510 is the app id number. 2420511 is the depot number, 530747257288547602 is the "manifest". A manifest is kind of like a download/configuration file that tells Steam where to get the files for that particular version.For example, the manifest number for the Greed Stamp nerf is 5115369806550322583 The numbers seem arbitrary, I think.It's pretty easy to spot when an update is related directly to a particular manifest number by date.
>>89793677played like 2 minutes and decided I'm not gonna do this shit
>>89793820or just don't play through steam.>t. itch.io enjoyer
>https://www.reddit.com/r/holocure/comments/1gunnnp/i_made_a_tas_bot_for_tower_of_suffering/some guy made a TAS bot for the tower but made it disable achievements when you are using it lmaoabsolute cunt behavior, i love it
Wow, I killed GoriEla in 2 seconds with this character instead of 10 seconds with a different character!
>>89794036how can you download older versions on itch?
>>89794119*uses sam*oh no, anyway
>>89793805It's not difficult, its fun.
>>89793805It's a casual game for casual gamers and not an esport.
>>89794129cool blogpost bro, where do I subscribe?
I love how the nerf to Greed stamp indirectly fucked Pekora.Tried running her to see how her coin generation fares with this nerf and good god sometimes her Gambler passive just expires because of the 5s cd on Greed stamp. Her 40% Atk and 20% Crit buff is unreliable now.
>>89794508It was always supposed to be unreliable. That's her gimmick. The gambling.
>>89794598>She always supposed to be shit.Well, ok.
>>89794634If everyone is shit no one is shit.
>>89794508Just leave some coins on the ground duh.
>>89794508Just don't pick them all up?
I shall embark on a journey of holocure from scratch (because fuck my dead drive). Tune in as I explore this world of crazed overly attached fans and cute anime girl bosses.
How do you play Marine? I've been trying to use her but I'm confused about how I should be playing/building her during runs.
>>89794780They all play fucking the same. Just run around in circles and try not to die while shitting out damage.
>>89794706>>89794744Well that kinda goes against the idea of coin farming itself since you always want to pick Super Chat...
>>89794847Pekora is not and was never a coin farmer.She just uses coins to fuel her skill.
So, which one of these is the best?Holy Fire seems like the best DPS skill, but Jingisukan with full meal combo seems like the best endless survival kid (esp for Noel).
>>89795001jingisukan for afk gaming
>>89794902Now that Greed stamp is neutered need to find the alternative for that.After testing around it's still gonna be Marine though, Reine and Pekora just don't shit that many coins at all.
>>89795001>seems like the best endless survival kidMiKorone is all but mandatory for Endless since it has by far the highest DPS against YAGOO so you can't get Jingisukan.
>>89795001Holy Fire, MiKorone, Eldritch Horror, and Absolute Wall, Wamy Water is the meta Endless build.
I don't get why people keep touting Jingisukan when Eldritch Horror exists.
>>89795595MiKorone isn't great for anything but Yagoo though
>>89795987It's a core item on Watame imo
>>89794508>sometimes her Gambler passive just expiresWhy not just take Stolen Piggy Bank to get 100% uptime on the passive for free, then?
It's Nnaaa not Naaa. Still not fixed.
>>89795989Sure, but he's talking about Endless. Endless is all about YAGOO.Get 2x Size+15% on MiKorone and Enhance it as much as possible for AoE damage, Eldritch Horror for slow and lifesteal, Absolute Wall/ Wamy for knockback to keep YAGOOs grouped up, and finally Holy Fist since it's the highest damage option that's left with it boosting MiKorone further.Item-wise it's usually Halu, Glasses, Blacksmith Gear, Credit Card, Raven Feather for damage, and Chicken Feather for even more revives as safety net.
>>89794823Not in Luna play
>>89793805>using bae
>>89796265My only gripe with Absolute Wall is that you need to actively spin them around, yeah I'm not doing that shit too much work
How bad is the nerf? I got like 350k in 30 minutes with AZKi so I don't know where people were getting 8 figures from, I just don't want to be completely fucked
>>8979500Holy is the best all rounder, jingisukan for hp and healing builds (eg Mel), Idol live for that Towa build with mask and hat
>>89796621Greed Stamp now only procs once every 5 seconds and the amount of Coins it drops scale with damage instead of hits.So multi-hit characters aren't that amazing for it anymore, it's better on single strong hits now.
>>89796670Isn't the bonus hardcapped at 100 dmg?
>A very short cooldown has been added to reduce possible proc>5 secondsSo which is it?
>>89797275He probably thought that 5s is very short, so technically both are correct.
Did they nerf noel? They take her mobility for power but her power is hella weak for the 4th stage compared to lower rank ''GOD'' fauna.
lolidiots that bought them for 77m btfo
>>89798056Based. Kay Yu is fighting inflation with necessary measures while tax and spend faggots get btfoed as they should.
>>89798056who the fuck would have 77m already?or ever for that matter
>>89798172>who the fuck would have 77m already?People doing 40 million runs. Yes, it was that out of control.
>>89798172Those who scripted fishing.Or those who ran Marine before the nerf.
>>89798056He's going to lower it by 1 Coin or something silly just to rub it in.I honestly don't get why people are even upset over it, this shit is straight up labeled as a scam not worth the amount of effort it takes to get.>>89798172I had enough to buy the Atk and Haste ones from when I Gachikoi'd every girl months ago. It's really not THAT impossible to get them even without Marine or Greed Stamp farming, it will just take a long time.
>>89793677Ignored it until it gets removed from the achievement list.
>>89793805>Transparent weapon effectYou're playing on easy
More carrots. Feed me more carrots.
Are there more questions than the math ones in Stage 4 hard? I went there to get the achievement and I think I answered all questiones correctly but I did not get it. Or can you like kill Ollie before all math questions are done?
I mean, I have 5.4 million coins and nothing I can buy that both:1) costs coins2) affects the main game modeBut it's still an extremely gay decision. I'm on itch.io though so lol, lmao.
>>89799749>Or can you like kill Ollie before all math questions are done?This is the problem. You have to leave Ollie alive until all questions are finished to get the achievement.
>>89799934Ah alright, thank you. I will try again with a lower damage character then
So you can't transfer peko chips into coins at casino?
>>89793630Just use CE then faggot
>>89793820Eh ykow, I get wanting to skip the update and this is informative, but to be honest if I really want the casino items I'll just cheat for them, eventually. Hell Kay might remove the buff they give next patch, or give the buff to everyone, idk. He mentioned he might.
I can't read.
>>89800503In the end, the save file is just a base64-encoded json object so the world is your oyster if grind is too tedious. You're probably aware, but going a little more into detail for everyone else.
>>89795595Mikoronoe is strong against yagoo? First I heard of it, how come?
>>89793677Gg ez the middle of it was the hardest part
>>89798246>I honestly don't get why people are even upset over it, this shit is straight up labeled as a scam not worth the amount of effort it takes to get.Because when coin runs were 10M-40M they WERE worth the effort, and many people got them.
>>89800573Yeah, it's that simple.Worth noting that gamemaker json is retarded and off spec, so some of the usual pretty printing breaks it. But if you only ever change the numbers, it's all good.
can anyone upload the pre-greed/noel nerf itchio version real quick?
>>89800639To deal with YAGOO spam you crowd control them all into one big clump. MiKorone puts a magma puddle below each target and with enough Haste stacks a ton of them ontop of each other, they then overlap even more because of your Size bonuses. There's nothing else that comes close to its damage.Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyZOyNpl3TI
>>89793652That is incredibly unlucky, I normally get one or two per runIt is said that the letters are more likely to drop if the fan corresponds to the character you are playing so perhaps try that too
>>89801434Interesting, I mostly run endless with Ina and usually focus on survival and knockback because AO chan doesn't work against them, and inevitably I stop killing yagoos and leveling.
>>89801434That looks incredibly unfunIs this the hardcore HoloCure endgame all you esports autists worrying over the 1-2% from the Casino Items are obsessed over?The game is literally shitting itself so hard that 5 ingame minutes take almost an hour real time, how is this fun
>>89793805Pre-nerf Bae was hilarious for a while because you could have almost nonstop special. Worked great with the change to the Hat.Overall I think I hate the hat change to be based on special instead of keeping enemies at a distance, it is probably amazing for Haato, Mio and chuubas with short special timers though. Going from up to 1.8x to a flat 1.3x is a shame though.
>>89801750It's fun.
>>89801750Just wait until you start seeing Iofi Endless runs. She can theoretically go infinitely deep now since she has 100% invincibility uptime between her Special and Dash.It just takes a thousand times as long since ingame time only passes for like a second every 20s (is paused during her special) combined with the YAGOO lag slowing things down further.https://www.reddit.com/r/holocure/comments/1gtvr78/a_guide_to_iofinite_immortal_iofi/
>>89801923>Her base ult cooldown is 60 seconds. With Idol Costume (40%), shop upgrades (15%) and fan letters (5%), it's 60 * (100% - 40% - 15% - 5%) = 24 seconds!>Her ult cooldown still tick under ult, and you are immune under ult, so it's 24 - 20 = 4 seconds!>But wait! Her ult also gives iframes after ulting, 3 seconds in fact, so it's 4 - 3 = 1 second!>But wait! Dashing gives you 1 second of iframes So it's 1-1 = 0!>That gives you a 0 second time window for enemies to attack you in 24 seconds, but what goes up again after 24 seconds? That's right, it's your ult. So you can repeat this till the end of time (or till you go insane) Nobody is going to do a run of this lmao
>>89801987Someone will.
>>89801987It's the best coin firm per run
>>89801776I keep trying to make Towa Hat + Idol Live builds but I am never really satisfied with them.
>>89801987According to that thread someone already did back when Dash didn't exist and you needed to time everything around the invuln period of Veggie Soup......With Dash being a thing now you can drive that way farther way more reasonably. If you luck into Super Idol Costume it's outright trivial to go for hours upon hours, as long as you can stand the tedium.
>>89801987I am sure it will get nerfed but I do wonder about fan letters. They give a tiny bonus each but there are a LOT of them and every new stage will add more as well, at least another 12 or 13 or more per update (each update can predict at least 9 or 10 fans for the 9 or 10 chuubas + 3 bosses), if not more. With Advent, Justice, HoloX, regloss’s 2 gens and then new gens by the time they are all in we can expect at least 3 more batches. In time they may close in on the shop bonuses for the smaller bonuses that only go up to 5 ranks.
>>89802089Towa Hat doesn't even have synergy with Idol Costume/Live for most characters. It has a hidden 20s cooldown after the buff expires before it can be reapplied again, so any character whose special can be activated more than once every 55s can get maximum uptime on Towa Hat without needing special reduction, and that's quite a few characters these days.
>>89802104Clearly this is a problem and he needs to nerf idol costume to only be 5%
Any tips to win a stage without moving?Anya? Do I need to reach a certain fandom level first or something?
>>89802401sana is easier than anya, just get her to g20
>>89801987>>89801923>Raven Feather still counts, which mean you can get 5% ATK every ~6 seconds with just normal Idol Costume and reach 1k+ ATK easily. This is pretty game-breaking (if you don't bore yourself to death before that)huh, so that makes iofi the best for highscores period you just need to patience of a saint>>89802401most charas work now that the xp net exists desujust pick stage 1 and get the plushy with some way to heal
>>89802089Idol live nerfs the idol outfit cooldown modifier too much, the buff doesn’t last long enough and has too long a cooldown. You are probably better going for Jingisukan and Piki Piki Piman for a +25% bonus to special and main weapon damage when combined (plus more bonus health from piman and the healing and better special cooldown). With shop and other bonuses the stat leap when you use your special with Idol Live isn’t even that great.Idol Live worked on Bae this version pre-nerf because it had 0 min speed so her special giving her +1000% haste meant it would fill the entire screen with murder and that many hits would refill her special basically instantly. With idol live and other special cooldown bonuses you can probably still get most characters to a set up where they can have their special charge time less than that of the hat’s buff time though.
>Towa is just stronger ameI feared this would happen, my oshi has the play style i hate the most
>>89802466XP net is so small though, does it even help?
>>89802262>It has a hidden 20s cooldown after the buff expires before it can be reapplied againIt does? That must have changed from earlier in 0.7 when I tried it, I was able to keep it up constantly. In that case ignore what I said here>>89802588
>>89802589He should nerf towa then
So I've been seeing everyone always using Halu. Previously I just assumed that it was because people wanted to show off and or grind coins, but now I'm unsure. Does the increased exp from having more enemies actually outweigh the cost of having stronger enemies and one less item slot.
>>89802630>It does?It was always like that. It's an undocumented part of its new behavior -- after the original 45s buff expires a 20s "buff" with a greyed out hat icon appears which gives you no bonuses. You won't be able to get the real buff again til that greyed out buff expires.It's honestly really annoying and a shit mechanic. Especially since it's undocumented in game.
>>89802689Yes
>>89802689Yes.
>>89802599Yes it helps. You could do it before the net but the net makes it easier.I did it back in the day with Ame. Bubba picked up xp and her special melted bosses. Sana was somewhat popular too for her ability to use her special to pull in XP too. Just turn off marketing, ignore Halu and play on stage 1 and it isn’t much trouble. These days the most painful part would be the need to ignore any potential fanletters that drop.
>>89802689at some point, playing without halu become really boring and empty, especially in the normal stages
>>89802689It's not just exp. You get more stamps and anvils as well. Combined with credit card and blacksmith glasses, you can be full build with 4 collabs and 6 items sub 10 minutes into the run.
>>89802689More Exp, more Stamps, more Anvils, more Fan Letter drops. Coins never mattered that much.
>>89802689there's also a store 'halu'
>>89802460>>89802466thanks. I'll try it out.probably I'll use that new 'disable items' feature
>>89802957Yeah but it's too weak on its own.
I haven't played 0.7 yet. With the nerf, is it better for me to farm coins in 0.6 before I update?
>>89802707I swore I saw the buff reset right away but I guess not
>>89802957It's kind of assumed you run with maxed Marketing. There's zero downsides outside of like two or three achievement runs you do once if you care about that sort of thing.It's just like one of the other upgrades - you level it once, as quickly as possible, and then leave it there maxed forever.
>>89802957Stack them
>>89803034>is it better for me to farm coins in 0.6 before I update?not really, you can still farm millions of coins/stage with marine even after greed stamp nerf
>>89803110How many exactly, show me the current coin strat.
>>89803034If you really want those 400m Coins for the Casino items you should honestly just run the fishing bot for a day.If you are new to the game and still have other things to unlock then no, just play the game normally, you don't need to do unnerfed Marine runs.
>>89803034Well however much Azki could make in 0.6 is definitely better than <1M with Marine currently, so I'd recommend you to do it.
>>89803151just use this guy strat, still works pretty wellhttps://x.com/lemonadeistea/status/1858731355670278310
>>89802395No fuck you I just figured out the build for Towa you can't do this to me.
>>89803164Kay yu says he is making the Casino items cost 1/10th what they do now next after the greed nerf so only 40m or so
were there any new character mods recently?
>>89802957I have been playing with maxed out marketing ever since it was added, you kinda have to with all the power progression in the game.
>>89802710>>89802714>>89802818Whats the strat for Halu? Should I be rushing it to level 5 ASAP as soon as I'm done getting exp glasses to 5 or should I get my build online first? I'm pretty decent at running around it circles, but spending the first 10 levels on not boosting my avatar strength on a hard stage with halu sounds pretty rough.>>89802811Yeah, I was already using it for the easy stages.
>>89803271That's the pre-patch strat. For starters, It's pointless to use focus shades anymore, it doesn't proc marnie's coin special.
>>89803390That's only a couple hours of botting fishing then, that's too easy
>>89803414I usually run Halu instead of glasses, although running them together works well too. My strat is to get halu asap, then max my main weapon, then focus on halu/glasses/SCT. The only important thing to watch out for with Halu runs is to make sure enemy HP doesn't outpace your damage output so if you feel you're lagging, get another weapon upgrade or two before continuing.
>>89803351same nerfing strat that happened to greed, sorry
>>89803448People shouldn't balance difficulty around cheating.
Is he right?
Usually grab two levels of Halu. Max my first collab then finish it.
>>89803841He sounds like a third worlder, so this game is probably the only joy he has in his life and in lieu of other options has spent upwards of 10k hours on it. I trust him.
What happened to the cannonballs on stage 5? Just did a run and they didn't fire once, am I losing my mind or were they changed in a patch?
>>89803841Oh I didn't realize he doesn't mention it in the post.He's talking about Ina.
>>89803841Who is she?
>>89803414I normally don’t bother giving up a slot for normal glasses on normal runs, it costs too many levels itself on top of the slot unless you are playing an XP character like Roboco. I prefer Halu and blacksmith tools, Halu gives much more xp and drops, including Anvils, and the instant doubling of Anvils with blacksmith is about as good as all 5 levels of credit card with only 1 level and then the bonus damage from 2 and 3 will add much more damage than the glasses. All the extra anvils can get you easier enchants and faster item progression too.Characters that mess with xp or gimmicks like 1 weapon runs are the only place I might favor glasses over blacksmith for 20 minute stages.
>>89803979The ships that fire the cannon balls don't move. As long as you keep your circle of movement relatively tight, then in the right position you wont have to deal with them.
>>89804095Why wouldn't you just get glasses as well with credit card and blacksmith glasses? They are like a 1.3x damage boost alone not counting the extra levels for stats.
>>89804152oh, huh, neatoI guess I did just run in a circle around the start
>>89804185Because then you have 4/6 slots spent on gaining levels and that's no fun.
>>89796472I did this already with Ame, Gura, Ina, Kiara, and Mori with the exact same collabs and items. Nothing was different except for how far the enemies could move from the edge of the screen before dying. The same will be true for the rest of the roster.
>>89804266What else are you going to get though?
That's a lot nicer. I can almost already afford them
>>89803979They only fire if you cross the lines in front of the ship. Stay out of the lines of fire and they won’t fire.
>>89802977The advantage of Sana for this run is that her ult works as an item magnet too. So you can still suck up all the XP and level her normally even when you don't move.
>>89804377I can almost afford 2. Will be able to afford the rest without even having to coin farm just through my workers and doing runs for fan letters/gachikoi.
>>89798056The house always wins baby
What character and level should I do to get the 'Do Not Move' achievement? I'm going CUH-RAH-ZEY over here
Is super supa chatto time still worth considering after the nerf of greed stamp in your opinion? Or should I just ban supa chatto time in the armory?Damn I remember being excited everytime it dropped from a box and with the armory I was hoping to see it more often since you can ban items you don't want.I can't think of another super item that makes me as excited..
>>89804529Sana for exp magnet.
>>89804529Sana, stage 1. Fairly easy to do.
>>89804539Even if you ban them the super variant can still appear
>>89804185>>89804364Credit card + blacksmith is overkill on anvils and not needed. If you get a super credit card then sure you can take it as a lark for the sheer absurd number of anvils it guarantees but 1 level of blacksmith does nearly as much as 5 levels of credit card. Two times as many anvils + stronger anvils is plenty, I don’t need 4 times as many Anvils.
>>89804529I remember I did it with Subaru a couple of years ago.
>>89804364Size stuff, healing stuff, defense stuff, whatever.
>>89804443I still say Ame is easier because of Bubba, being able to aim her starting weapon and how easily her special murders bosses
>>89804644I used Mumei. Friend helps with XP collection too.
>>89804529I used Fauna
>>89804638Really? What's the point then? If I ban that stupid piggy bank that means I don't want it, even if it's blinking and shit.
>Mel is suddenly killed overnight >Kay Yu nerfs herWhats his problem?
>>89804870The point is it doesnt' show up on normal level up menus so you have a better chance of getting what you need. If it shows up in a box you're simply unlucky, but you can remove the possibility by not picking boxes until you have your items and weapons picked out.
>>89804926Rushia…
>>89804682Why do you need any of that when enemies barely move 1cm off the edge of your screen before dying?
>>89804968Mel wasnt a deranged psycho, just a very dumb woman.
>>89805179Fun.
>>89804639Why wouldn't you want 4x the anvils though? It lets you ban weapons after you get one level in it so you can get to increasing stats sooner.
>>89804937I guess it really doesn't matter now anyway since most supa item makes me shrug except maybe the headphones.
>>89805232I’d rather have the extra item slot
>>89804377Bro.... I bought all of those at full price.....
>>89804539Yes. It's still extremely powerful on anyone that can generate Coins. You just won't get over 10000% Atk with Marine in Endless anymore.
Still trying to get a feel for Luna. I can beat levels with her no problem but it feels that I’m not capitalizing on her abilities well enough yet. It feels like Haste and attack speed overall is her key stat to pursue. She doesn’t want to move so pick up range and with that attack size feels like a good idea too but only her sword, skill and water stun so attacks that kill enemies before they can get close might be counter productive to her skills.
Just did my first Endless. I played IRyS since she's the only one I have at Gachikoi from Coin farming ages ago.This was underwhelming. Very underwhelming.Around 35mins I got really fucking bored of running around with Yagoos chasing me and just killed myself.Maybe I'll take a break until the next update is out again
>>89806067Endless is boring for me so I don’t play it. Why not try out the other holos to rank them up too and have something different?
what food buff do you guys normally use? i always stick with the pufferfish meal 90% of runs but maybe i should use the quick halu one more
>Meru got another outfitThat was nice of him to do.
>>89806223I just use the Halu one since it's the most important item to get straight awayThe one that gives a 5s Barrier every 30s is really good though, if you aren't stressed about getting Halu straight away I'd probably go for that
>>89806223I'm team pufferfish 100% of the time
>>89806223I forgot they exist lol
finally got to playing Watame, 10 minutes into the run I realize, oh yeah, I have ubersheep disabled..
>>89806407But then again I'm a solo weapon / 2 weapon player so I'm not too stressed about getting halu, especially with the new item ban system
>>89806497>Disabling itemsUnless you were specifically experimenting with a weird build, disgusting
>>89802401I remember doing it with Fauna. Just get to gachikoi and do basically a 1 weapon run. It's not too hard on the first stage.
>>89806223Its always halu or the exp item one. Everything else is nice but not as important as those, especially since theres so many fucking items in the game that 10 bans feels like its not enough.
>>89806870With the ability to block items in advance getting Halu early is much easier
>>89806223>using food at allCheatEngine is a free download if you need to cheat, lil bro
I don't care anymore. Where is the location of the save file so I can edit it.
>>89808129>not using everything available to you in the gamecasual
>>89808236>upgrading anythingyou cheated not only the game but yourself
>>89808262it’s okay that you don’t know how to play the game and think you are playing another one
What is the maximum stamina a worker can have, the highest I have is 183
>>89808421The highest natural roll is 85, they gain 2 stamina per level and they can level up 49 times (assuming their level cap is 50).85 + 49*2 = 85 + 98 = 183I think.
>>89794119> Remove "callbackManagerInterfacePtr->CancelOriginalFunction();"Achievement unlocked.
>>89808522I see. With the greed nerf I'm wondering if a bunch of workers are faster at getting gold now. When I collect from my worker farm I usually get a little over 500k, and it takes like 45ish minutes. 16 cycles of this gives one of the casino items, so it's like one item a day if you just sit there and feed everyone when they all hit exhausted.
Can anyone tell me what "Hardcore Mode" is? I already cleared every hard stage
I play through itchio so I still have an old version. I might do a couple marine grinds then downgrade to buy out the casino. I might not though with the giant Noel nerfs. The buffs to Luna and one of the suckier super collabs doesn’t feel worth it.
>>89809025 (me)Nevermind I found it in the shop
>>89809025It is an option you can turn on in the shop and drops your hp to 1 and doesn’t let you increase it so you die if you take any damage. Things like the Pillow can still protect you, headphones as well to a lesser extent.
>>89809025This is an upgrade in the shop that put you at 1 HP (hp item won't work but the body pillow still does) in exchange for the achievement and some extra score point per time survived after the 30th minute in endless mode
>>89805244Glasses and Credit Card supers are straight up broken.
>>89809497Glasses is only a little better when super, especially if you already had normal glasses bought and maxed Super credit card is a giant jump though
>>89809622Does upgrading normal Glasses to Super wipe your level based Atk bonus? With normal Glasses you only get it for every level gained while you have the Glasses
>>89809497I agree that I should reconsider the credit card on mutli weapon runs I'm just not a fan of them.For the glasses I'm really just experiencing them with 0.7 since you can get the super version of an item you already have, but so far I'm not really feeling that +10% EXP. Like it doesn't feel as big as a super supa chatto or a 10% HP heal on top of every dodge from the headphones
wish i had kept my old version files, i dont care about the greed nerf but i didnt get to play OP noel...
New record for me I think, I do have the lowest tier prism but I don't think it made a big difference I facetanked without the biboo stamp all the way to minute 34.
>>89801434Wish I knew about this pre-nerf. I had a run with 2000+% attack but it didn't last very long into yagoo because I picked different items.
It seems like Anya has it especially hard on harder stages due to the environmental attacks and projectile spam punishing her sitting still skill harder than most
>>89810096I still have a pre-steam copy where there was a bug that shit out super items because it was so fun.
>>89810404I hope that SUPER Nenechi has a skill that increases the odds of getting super items or interacts with them
>>89810404i had that itchio versionat the time i thought it was intentional to get all gold items in a single run lmao
>>89810133>the yagoos start getting madjesas
>>89808787It kinda sucks that the best money maker in the game isn't even tied to the actual game
>>89810342Use the bubble that become you inmume to projectiles or use the wall colaboration and spin it like a maniac. But i still think that Anya and Zeta are probably the less fun characters in the game.
>>89794780https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO8p12MWVYsHeal tank non stop cumming Marine
>>89812866i believe those don’t help with lightning strikes. perhaps a high enough healing and HP will tank them but that could be a while
>>89793507IRyS...
Ranged or magic for arena fights?
>>89814141Ranged
>>89814141Doesn't matter I only use takodachi.
Finally got Hololite Prism. This map is really helpful
>>89794780https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQQdaSwRu04
>>89814141I am using two 35p (magic) and just invest 40 points in HP, run like a maniac and pop up the special when i feel focused. And I win pretty consistently.
wc lvls?
>>89814141I'm able to win an ok amount of champion fights with a melee worker, trained with max healthit's not guaranteed though, you have to retreat as much as possible while everyone is fighthing and hope that the last one alive doesn't have too much health leftI feel like the fucky AI really hurts melee fighters
>>898158914
>>89815891
>>89815891Not high enough. WT can suck my white helm.
>>89814317Glad I was blessed with a high functioning pattern seeking brain to just realize that some nodes gave specific tiers of resources on my own without needing to turn to reddit
>>89816138I dunno man. I have above 80% of wins with ranged and magic with less HP, I think the melee need a cleave or something like that to be viable.
Game-breaking oversight: the messages for other holomems coming and going at the HoloHouse has the correct capitalisation of AZKi's name, but not that of IRyS's name.
>>89816486oh I know, melee workers suck. the reason I'm using one is because I only hire koronesukis
Anyone got a tier list for Collabs and Super Collabs?
>>89816535Literally unplayable
>>89817212Godly Power - Holy Fire, JingisukanI don't like it - Idol LiveGot buffed recently but still eh unless you're a crit build - Unlimited BL WorksWhy did they add another crit super collab if we already have this - Snow Flower Sake
>>89817408Still no Melee super collab
What the HELL is in that square?I already checked the wiki. I didn't see a single collab I didn't have.>>89817480Unlimited BL Works has melee tag.
Buying the usada casino drink literally does nothing huh?I was curious and it literally just took my coins and still prompted me to buy another. Guess I should have listened to the text
ball + board
>>89817480>>89817552I just remembered unlimited BL is melee but wasn’t able to correct myself in time. It still sucks but at least it is something.Too many Melee collabs use the same few weapons, it is impossible to have 4 melee collabs with one of them as the melee super collab.
>>89817576It shows up behind the bar
so how many coins do a Marine run get you now?
>>89817552It's Absolute Wall
>>89817715oh, I thought that was there the entire time. Do they stack if you keep buying drinks?
>>89817408I still prefer Holy Fire + Soda for a crit build.I would personally go Snow Flower if I plan to play the timer and mostly leave the Yagos alone (usually with a weak character).>>89817480Isn't unlimited BL treated as melee?
>>89817619>>89817808Well no wonder, I've definitely used Absolute Wall before so maybea bug
>>89817800I got this last night without using the skull cup pre-patch, so I think that will be about the same.
>>89817869I had an armory bug too this patch. It showed my unlocks as something like 72/84 eventhough I had everything unlocked.
>>89817576>>89622015
>>89817831Yes and at 10 it glitches out unless it has been fixed
Roboco is FUN. Not going for anything specific here, just hoping to get that myth fan letter. Does Biboo stamp really make all weapons fire faster or just main?
>>89818172reading the stamp explains the stamp
>>89818172It is supposed to be all weapons, but I wonder if it actually works with weapons that don't benefit from haste.
Wait, wasn't this the second time the greed stamp got castrated?
>>89818220>he thinks all mechanics in the game work exactly as listed>>89818356I honestly never noticed any difference with it no matter what weapon I used, quite different from the candy or even just the energy drink, you immediately notice the increase in attack speed with those.
how hard can it possibly be to make a game of blackjack?this fucking sucks
>>89817876Marine herself got nerfed too, so it's defnitely not gonna be that high anymore
>>89818523You can see the haste modifier difference on your pause stat screenIt depends on the weapon you use because some benefit from haste more than others
>>89818356It works by giving a haste bonus so it won’t work on weapons that don’t care about haste (a surprisingly high number)
>>89818584>coins from non-attack skills works properly nowsounds like she's stronger
>>89818742I find even more surprising the number of enchantments that you can get on certain weapons that become useless once you make a collab. (I'm looking at you in particular hit rate +20%)
SHOOT THE WORLD
Noelle is still strong
>>89819035Her damaging skills are Lust (fill the meter to use) and dms (damage only activates after they have been near you and alive for several seconds), so those aren't going to contribute a ton compared to the proc limit on the pistol
>>89819035the proc limit could neuter coin generation down to a crawl. I'm checking it out now
>>89819221>>89819186I STILL LOVE YOU SENCHOU
anyone know how long is the cd on the skull stamp?
>>89817408>unless you're a crit buildEvery build is a crit build, I get to 100% crit on every single character every game.
>>898194655s, at least around that after I did multiple runs to check it.You might complain how the fuck is 5s very short but hey Kay is the one setting it that way, maybe he thought it's short enough.
what's the most OP weapon collab + items synergies
>>89820947Just build like this every single run on every character >>89793805
>>89795747explain
>>89820907I have a feeling that he meant to make it 0.5s but hes retarded
>>89812866She might not the strongest character around but I still enjoy playing Zeta. I like the concept of her main weapon turning into a stronger version of itself if you're doing shit right.
>>89820907Wait, so at best you get 1 coin every 5 second?
i just want to tell everyone that i love azki, in and out of this game
>>89819098There are ones you can get on the collab that are useless already for the weapon from the moment you get it like cooldown modifier or weapon size or projectile bonus.
>>89821126Well it's not strictly 1 coin, since the amount of that 1 coin depends on your main weapon damage...EXCEPT that he already put an upper limit of 100 damage per proc the last time he nerfed it, so yeah right now it's absolute trash.
>>89821396Gross
>>89799310Based, fuck this bullshit genre change. If I wanted to play this "jump king" bullshit I would have known it existed prior to 0.7
>>89821868Do you really let cheevos tell you what and how to play?
>>89821920Well achievements are goals, if you want to complete all goals would you not want to get all the achievements? If so then you would be forced to play it.
Why would you care about goals you don't want to achieve?
>>89822056Why play video games if you dont want to complete them
>>89822115To have fun?
>>89822187Yes, and having fun is completing the goals presented to you
Thoughts on this art style change?
>>89822230No, no it isn't. Completing a goal you have no interest in isn't fun.
>>89822232I want to put my penis in her wide open mouth, its the same feeling Roboco gives me when she sings on stage.
>>89822232Better in this specific sprite at least.
>>89822280So you're saying that my fun should be limited to increase someone elses fun, therefore increasing the total amount of fun in this world?
>>89822378No, I'm saying play how you want, not how the game's arbitrary list of accomplishments tells you. You don't want to play jump king? Then who cares if the achievement says you have to? You wouldn't have fun accomplishing that goal, would you?
What is funny to me reading comments here and on the update notice on steam is that this change seems to make more people frustrated than it makes people happy. At the end of the day, it's a change that takes from certain player and gives nothing to no one.I'm wondering if Kay really look at this and think "this is for the best. You can't please everyone".
>>89822232the facial expression is nice. but the hair behind her back looks too flat now. and the anti-aliasing on her tiara just makes it look blurry. need to see examples with the other girls before I completely write off the new style though.
>>89822472I want the "get all the achievements" achievement, but the jump king achievement is blocking me from that, so by adding it it literally removes fun for me.
Kay... this isn't Elden Ring. There are no PVP mechanics. Why stress out over balance? If a character is fun to use, why mess with it? Don't fix what isn't broke.
>>89822824because of leaderboards that aren't in the game
>>89822772An achievement is just a text message, anon. It isn't intrinsically fun. The only person removing any fun is yourself, by obeying the arbitrary list to earn the game's approval, to the point of engaging with content you hate for it.
remember when the holohouse was about customizing a house? I haven't even entered mine since the update
>>89822968nigga you gay
>>89822968Video games are literally just pixels on a screen anon, it isn't intrinsically fun. You see how your argument is bad? By adding something arbitrary it reduced fun for people. If you can't get the final achievement then why do any? Why play the game? People have fun getting achievements, this is a fact and why they exist in the first place.
>>89823122You're bitching and moaning like a woman about optional content because you don't want to disobey the list of chores the game dev wrote out for you.
>>89823086No? Even when it first came out the fishing and cooking where already there, and a lot of people focused on those
>>89823202I happent to remember games before achievements were a thing, and we had fun without them. Completing achievements is only fun if the steps to complete them are fun.
Who up jumping they queen
By the way, is there actually a cute girl up the tower?
>>89823497Oh yeah totally, for suresies
>>89823401But before that vidya had scores and high score lists
I'm a bit sad that Luna is boring to play.
>>89823624Leftovers from arcades, and engaging with them was entirely optional (and mostly pointless) unless you wanted to fill it up with letters spelling something dirty.
I'm a bit sad that Watame isn't a melon.
>>89822232I like the old one better
>>89793507>nerf a single player gameok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr81O0DjwyM
>>89823738Not necessarily as some games had point requirements to get certain endings or even to see all the levels
>>89823819Maybe? I never encountered a single one that did, but I take your word for it. But you earn points by playing the game well, so it's not really the same thing.
>>89823703There is more to her character to make it work well and I just haven’t found it yet.
>>89823899>>89823703God speed lunaitos, bring out your oshi's potential.
>>89823738singleplayer games were entirely about high scores before Mario decided to reward you with a princess
Holy Fire/Dragon Breath + Bone Bros + Blood Lust is fun.
>>89822589He only pleased himself.Instead of allowing several broken builds and having thousands of good builds, he would rather have 2-3 cookie-cutter builds.
>>89823971Again that's leftovers from the arcade age, right?Singleplayer games when home consoles hit their stride were about beating the game, period. The high scores were secondary, for replayability or for dick measuring.
>>89823206dumbass retard, >>89823202 is who you were arguing withI was just calling you gay.Now I'm calling you a gay retard
>>89820907If it's 5s the stamp is pretty much dead for pekora. Not that it became an Op heal item, but it was a reliable option instead of going for the something like horns.
>>89824313and holocure is an arcade-style game. there's nothing to do in the game besides getting highscores, or grinding various side contents so you can get even higher highscores
>>89823892Shadow the HedgehogMetroid
>>89824528I thought metroid was time based not score based
>>89824515But this guy isn't complaining about high scores. He's complaining that the side list of optional content includes something he doesn't want to play.
>>89824528Wait fuck I misread. Disregard the first example, Metroid still holds.
>>89824515This is wrong, there is also achievements
>>89824569They’re technically the same thing, since both require above average levels of play and are optional to “beat the game”The same logic could be applied to “S ranks” in sonic games. Optional, require skillful play, and are ultimately meaningless in the context of having fun.
>>89816661A man loyal to his waifu.
while we're bitching about achievements, I want to say that getting gachikoi with every character is a pain in the ass that I have no intention of grinding for
>>89825028If there was an achievement for that I would. It would be a much better achievement than a jump king one.
>>89825028Honestly, even knowing it's not an achievement it's still something I plan on doing.
>>89825152There is an achievement for it. Press right on the achievement list to see the character specific ones. And yes, you have to get all those to get the "all achievements" achievement.
>>89825028I haven't bothered so far because I tend to focus on high scoring with Ina, but I enjoy playing other characters so I'll get there when I get there.
>>89825152>>89825269Unless something changed, it's a requirement for the get some help achievement.
>>89825374it should still be required, since I have every general achievement but not Get Some Help, since I'm missing stuff from the character tab
>>89793652>How do I farm Fan Letters?Best way is to unlock the 20% chance drop from the casino and then start farming.
>>89793677I got there. Took me 4+ hours.To be fair, I've never played Jump King. First time playing something like this.
>>89826128Forgot my screenshot.
>>89826013I don't really notice any change on the drop rate desu. Also probably I would ignore the ID stage because it's aids.
>>89794129Bae is the most BROKEN crit character in the entire game. Her special is basically a boss killer.
>>89826325>random bullshit go!!
>>89822232Old one was derpy but cute, I'll miss it
>>89822232There is no sovl
>>89827401come on anon, I know she's korean but that's not nice
>>89822232Old one is cuter to me because it looks derpier simple as
>>89827542It reflected Ina’s status as a cute dope
