BMKG Predicts Edition>What is /warkop/ about?A place to unite and talk in-depth about Indonesian VTubers in general. We also talk about the Indonesian VTuber market and their happenings behind-the-scenes, whether it be rrats, numbers, demographics, auditions, debuts, graduations, etc.>Useful Linkshttps://schedule.nasgorest.my.idhttps://vtuber.asiahttps://pvc.moe>Songs Playlist>Originalhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYEx1V3dXHVu4rjFNrfxIB_LDfsVPaL-x>Coverhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYEx1V3dXHVv-Z91qV4N8tkvgtmjih09_https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYEx1V3dXHVtLso4wCLg5gnU7sz1BMhf2https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYEx1V3dXHVthbz39xGj5Idl1PxuFZxHlhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYEx1V3dXHVtDWQ7ttCmr-Gx6L1a4aD-Q>Divegrass (Football) Teamhttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki//warkop/Previous Thread>>89595295
Did I witness a VTuber I used to watch getting canceled on Twitter? Man, it must be rough for her. Also, I think I feel a bit of whatever VTuber fans feel when their favorite VTuber gets into drama.How's the condition on the Bakadomo's fancord now? Need IDspy here.
>>89856732If usual OP or others wants to newsbump, use this as the anchor
>>89857121https://x.com/AKAVirtualOnAir/status/1859070430608503278I'll start, 5 days after the signups are closed, AKA only announced the end of their audition a couple of hours ago, who's gonna make their way in, this time? Will it be>Zoey?>NijiID grads like Lethe or 10JIN?>exDigiKagis?Or who else is in your radar for this round of poaching?
>>89857369is zoey's channel still dead lol
Deidey doko...https://x.com/deidey16_/status/1859124422957035664
>>89857121Up next, still from AKAFure is making a Birthday Build Battle next month with the following details>Signup closes on 5 Dec unless the 20 streamer + 60 viewer slots are full before that date>Build time : 8 Dec - 25 Dec>Prize : Fure Merchs + 1.5M total in cashhttps://x.com/Frederett_/status/1859150675646837142
>>89857121Next news is an indie onehttps://x.com/aikawamomoka/status/1859060370079645733Momo announced her herd of animals for her upcoming Nenen cover, so you might not only see cameos from notable chuubas such as Gebi, Reynard, Chiara or Tanbi but you might also hear them there lol
https://x.com/caeeerula/status/1857046829600321564https://x.com/VRchama/status/1858837606219608548https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn12irUO2xo
>>89857965Cae... Why do I feel a bit hurt when I saw her get cooked on main... Even though I don't watch her anymore... And, even though she's complicit on trash-talk Deidey during her Suisei impersonation yab in the past...
>>89858201 (me)Well, not exactly cooked on her main account, though. Just realized it lmao. Still... Cae...
Laras-RImu-Eci-Chiara Devourhttps://youtu.be/BctEbEgZzYk
>>89857965What a fucking retard
>>89858654Saying 'Vtuber is a luxury hobby' is a cop out excuse to justify artists horrible pricing practice. It's like saying Gunpla is an expensive hobby because the price of one PG kit, liner set, sanding sticks, and God Hand nipper is way above what average builder could afford.
>>89859284Then don't buy it or get more money instead of complaining. I fucking hate how poorfags justify being poor
>>89857965Wait.I'm not sure if I can explain it clearly. But, sometimes, I think that the artist's art is like you make a thing for a consumer and then you can use it in whatever you like. You know, like buying books, clothes, and such. Yes, also including the paintings you can see in the museum, and others. Or so I think as an ordinary member of society.That's not the case when it comes to art?
>>89859511From my understanding there's always 2 prices for commissions. Normal price means the art still belongs to the artist and there are restrictions to what you can do with it. Commercial price is usually 3x more expensive but it now belongs to you so you can use it for merch and anything else
>>89859361>Tell me you never build a Gunpla without tell me you never build a GunplaYeah, mhmm, ogey artfag>>89859361Yes, it should be like that, but some artists decided that it's stupid and corpo should pay them more because ... they made art? What a conceited thoughts for an independent contractors
my brat... that recent tweet make me sad
>>89859862>can't afford expensive car>noooo why is this car so expensive it's not for people like me
>>89859855Why would the artist place a contradiction if your explanation is the case? Just put the commercial price, then. Also, I started to kind of get it. Is it like a license when it comes to art? Like, you deserve some piece of profit if the art directly contributes to the profit of a VTuber.
>>89859956>client haggle a price>noooo why is this big public figure decline my overpriced offer, this job is not for people like me
>>89860191Maybe, idk I'm not an artist
>>89859891Can't wait for a new song from Kobo about her overcoming the haters and being strong by being herself.
>>89860284The one complaining is the vtuber though, everyone else is just shitting on her for being stupid. If the artist doesn't think the job is worth the money why would he accept it retard
>>89860583>The one complaining is vtuber>The one shitting on her is also a vtuberBoth of them are retarded, I'd say
>>89860191If the commercial price acts like a license, then does the consumer need to pay it just once only? With the more expensive price, of course. Also, how about the fanart that's being commissioned by a fan for her favorite VTuber? Does it also count as commercial usage?
>>89859891This is bound to happen eventually, even if the drama never happened
>>89860921>Also, how about the fanart that's being commissioned by a fan for her favorite VTuber? Does it also count as commercial usage?Usually no. They can make t-shirts and stuff with it and give it away for free but are not allowed to profit from them
>>89857965https://x.com/Dem4gog/status/1858593702991851643Bukan untuk kaum mending mending
>>89861155Ah, I see. But, from what an artist said on >>89861984, if any investment in a VTuber's brand is commercial, then fanart may count, right? Fanarts affect the visibility of a VTuber (and its agency if he/she is on it). Big VTubers usually have so many fanarts like Hololive, after all. So, I imagine a scenario like this:>"You want me to make a fanart for your favorite chuuba? Then the price will be more expensive, then. Because I see that this particular chuuba is big and there'll many engagements if I upload this fanart you want on SNS."
>>89859284>>89861984>>89862314
>>89861984Imagine if you have a "laundry shop" and you can use the "money" from it to commish some fanart for your favorite VTuber and even start a VTuber agency with it...The rich and powerful ones usually support the artists, right? Hence,>(insert any hobby that involves artists) is a luxury hobby!
>>89862314No, fanarts are definitely not commercial but I can imagine that scenario happening.At the end of the day, the artist is the one who set the price, the consumer can buy it or find someone else who's willing to do it for less or not buy it at all. That's how it is with purchasing anything
>>89863262Supply and demand, right?Capitalism, ho~!
>>89863756 (me)Also, since this discussion is being pulled into the economy... I guess it's fair for a consumer to search for a cheaper option, right? Hence, Cae's yapping isn't technically wrong. It's just wrong because it hurts the feelings of Indonesian artists.
>>89863875I think she is in the wrong. You're right that there's nothing wrong with searching for a cheaper option, but she's blaming the artist for placing a price that she can't afford
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>>89863985>Blaming Cae instead of the one who QRT her, twist her statement even further, and start the whole dogpilingFuck him and his crab bucket mentality. No wonder he hangs out with bunch of ExID faggots
>>89863985>she's blaming the artist for placing a price that she can't affordI get the Cae's spirit. But, since she pointed her finger at the artists, hence the "hurting the feelings of the Indonesian artists" point. Consumers usually leave the "expensive" seller in favor of the cheaper one instead of yapping at the said seller. Well, sometimes includes yapping, too.
>>89857965>https://x.com/souffales/status/1859204777177190489>Cm kl kek kejadiannya moona sih, cant help ya, emang aji mumpungWhat? What happened to Moona? Why is she somehow mentioned in this discussion?
>>89864512This anon gets it, the discussion were splintered all over the place by the nijinog crabbucket
>>89863875>>89864795
>>89859284>>89859361If you don't like the artists for some reason, then you can only hope that they're being paid handsomely in sight, only for them to find out that the money is from the money laundering scheme, like >>89863108 said.
>>89857965why people always forget that price police is one of many etiquette in life.>>89861984lol lmao pasar lokal sudah ambruk? ya loe jualan aja di luar jingx. ga vtuber ga artisnya sama2 goblok
>>89864905looking at some of the replies, apparently she once said in a stream that she ended up paying 10 times from the original price for a commission piece. Idk if this is true, so any Moonafic can confirm this?
MiU GTAV RPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMCmL8MfaT8
https://www.youtube.com/live/gdbpHKEPe4gqrd on this cunny? is she in a corpo or indie? i like the cunny voice and model.
>>89867563>Eryi's ActionDamn what a nostalgic game-pick
>>89867563https://youtu.be/T9YBB5v8ep8https://youtu.be/6BJ-cFONSIIhttps://youtu.be/_mk-fRfME9c
>>89867834Shamelessly stole this and others from her fancord.>an elf alien searching for the stars>somehow found the Earth>somehow she's in Indonesia nowwheeze
>>89867911This is also on her Twitter, though. What do /warkop/ think of her from her design?https://x.com/LuciaSeraphinaa/status/1830425411949400202wow it's another blue cunny
>>89867911damn i thought you mean she's stealing design or something jeez
>>89867997good design non sexualized cunny which makes her 100× more sex.
>>89868394Lmao nope, I screenshot that from her fancord and then sent it /here/. She better stay ignorant about this place. And yes, her model is cute.
>>89858201>trash-talk Deideywat da fak? qrd?
>>89868606Areee~ So, Ojii-san is the type who likes to ruin a pure canvas, huh? Mmmhhh~
>>89868738stop talking to anon and focus on your stream
Jaret Rates Waifushttps://youtu.be/c8BN8FmDj40?si=jHKKTYJTh5NSEDug
>>89868931isn't that deidey's first thread in /warkop/?i still wonder who da fak made it.
>>89869547I don't know if it's the first. But, that thread is the reason Deidey is being talked about so much /here/ until now.
>>89869944you're right. i'm not sure if it was her first thread in /warkop/ but it was definitely the first time i was aware of her existence and started my obession as one of deisex anons
https://x.com/MythiaVTuber/status/1859095098572894569Tambah Rame!
>>89857508https://x.com/deidey16_/status/1859113447868473492
>>89870298A lot of ID chuubas lack professionalism
T-Series is nothing but a bitch lasagna!!
>>89870337Yang Aji mumpung itu elu Dey! Ikut2an memasak juga.
>>89864905>>89867116>commission ID artist (I assume)>get scammedLocal pride amirite
Raining Natsu no gogo ni Toori ame Kasa no shitaKissingNureta hoho ni Sotto kuchizuketaAno kisetsu ni Mada kogareteiruMiss youMado no soto niToozakaru keshiki tachiBreezingNiji ga mietaSugu ni kiesou de Ame ashita wa furanakereba iiNani mo te ni tsukazu niUwa no sora no hibiNothing but you're the part of meMada tarinakuteMada kienakuteKasaneta te no hira kara Osanasa gaWhat a good thing we lose?What a bad thing we knewSonna FUREEZU ni nuretekuAme no nakaTada tarinakuteMada ienakuteKazoeta hi no yume karaSayonara gaWhat a good thing we lose?What a bad thing we knewFurerarezu ni iretaraWaraeta kana?Calling Shiroi iki ga maiagaru Sora no shitaFreezing Tsuyoi kaze niSukoshi kajikanda te to Yowasa wo POKETTO no naka niDoko wo miwatashite moToorisugita hibiNothingbut you're the part of meMata furetakuteTada mabushikuteOmowazu Me wo sorashitaYasashisa niI wanna sleep in your feelI wanna see you in the deepSonna FUREEZU wo Narabeta uta wo imaAno kaerimichiBASU ni YurareteKanau hazu mo nai younaYume wo mitaI wanna sleep in your feelI wanna see you in the deepKurikaesu kisetsu ni Narenai mamaMou sukoshi kuraiOtona de iretaraNante ieta darou?Mada tarinakuteMada kienakuteKasaneta te no hira kara Osanasa gaWhat a good thing we lose?What a bad thing we knewSonna FUREEZU ni nuretekuAme no nakaTada tarinakuteMada ienakuteKazoeta hi no yume karaSayonara gaWhat a good thing we lose?What a bad thing we knewFurerarezu ni iretaraWaraeta kana?
>>89870337I want to commission Deidey to draw #deyabai full nelson anal sex
Arushi Stardew Valleyhttps://youtu.be/KYjt3rdH9Pw?si=4FGBjR9dt_VUfKKe
>>89870776Such as?
Meanwhile our final boss opted to help by shilling her artists pickshttps://x.com/MineRose_id/status/1859208765477970388
>>89856732BMKG-chan?https://youtu.be/vh8Fuy8lcgo
>>89877225it's realhttps://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/id/wiki/Shinna_Faultline
Pinguerillahttps://youtu.be/y4V-8V0hmJM
https://x.com/AmayaMiyuID/status/1859323527473639909https://x.com/KariSharl/status/1859140701973606914
>>89882882Bingung, bingungKu memikirnya!https://youtu.be/XwjjbWg875Q
>>89870298>>89870337>>89882882The dangerous side effect of this drama is Cae's relationship with other chuubas. Imagine getting added to the artists' blacklist just because of collabing with Cae. Imagine being trash-talked behind her back to affirm the loyalty and to appeal to the artists. I hope it's not the case.
>>89871225To be fair, Deidey is an artist, too. And a good one. Also, she did make the art herself for her own MV of her cover song.https://youtu.be/BXzXQWVmT4Q
>>89885091Yeah I'm really concerned for AKA members that are not close to Cae, it'd be terrible if they or their projects got effected badly just because Cae did picrel, it'd ruin the whole advantage of joining AKA in the first place
>>89886006Other AKA's members can empathize that they're mostly a bunch of indie who got recruited by AKA itself. But of course, I'm afraid that the artists themselves insisting AKA talents on condemning Cae and distancing from her. Imagine the friendship that Cae forged suddenly vanished just because of some yapping on her second account.
>>89887450>I'm afraid that the artists themselves insisting AKA talents on condemning Cae and distancing from her.owarida
>>89861155>>89870337>padahal vtuber banyak yg beli komisi harga standart tapi dipake banner yutub, tamnel, skejul dlWait.If a VTuber uses fan art for a YT banner, thumbnail, schedule, and other activities, does he/she need to pay the original artist? Assuming that any activities VTubers do are for brand investment and any brand investment is a commercial activity.
>>89889885IIRC there's a clause in Holo for fanart that once you submitted your work with proper tag, talents can use AND modify it to a certain degree. Monetization (as in turning the art into commercial merch) is another matter, though ...
>>89890552https://hololivepro.com/id/terms/
look at T-Series they just crying for their momma
Nicolas.... JACKson
welp, push i guess
Listening to Chloe's songs while driving, especially with this song, was a mistake. There's a strange within me and it can't be described as a positive one. At least I drive slowly compared to usual.
>>89895987Gosling-chama ...
>>89896715>Last stream on her channel: 11th May 2023>It has been 560 days since Chloe's last stream on her channelAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYeah, she showed up on another channel sporadically. But, still...Especially when she promised this.https://youtu.be/NU7xd9OBVdQ&t=29https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSFWa4Qcp0cThis is a real example of "cuteness is a crime."
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Dicintai oleh dirirmu, bagai lukisan senja di sore harisetiap kali aku sedang berduka, kau pasti selalu menghiburku disaat kuberjalan sendirian, kau selalu ada dibelakangkuwalaupun kadang kusakiti dirimu, kau diam dan tetap mendampingiku
>>89897738i member when i stumble across this chuuba, i like the voice but then she vanish before i build my parasocial thank god
Ethel the game devhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw6B4CdUuK4
>>89899350>>89906519https://youtube.com/shorts/UFVaedyVYb0
FIX GOOOOOLLLLLLL
Non Dira Pizza Frenzyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFukL9Tt4lI
Key Palohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjMNAZGIU_Y
>>89887450Didn't she yap on her main account?>>89889885Whenever I commission a fanart, I always ask permission for the chuubas to use it on their social medias (banned, thumbnail, etc). So far the artists don't mind and don't charge for more money.>>89897738Forget chuubas who are like this. You're enabling them to feel entitled. Look at Gura and other chuubas who keep ghosting their fans. Their fans always shower them with akasupa whenever they return.>>89906519You dodged a bullet.
>>89916619Speaking of ghosting, what happened to Mozaru? She ghosted her fans early this years for several months. Then suddenly I saw her replying and retweeting a lot several months ago in my timeline. What happened during her absence? Someone mentioned that she reincarnated as someone else in a corpo before her return.
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>>89917324Something did happen to her, but idk the details. The corpo reincarnation was debunked here >>84066439
>>89916619>You're enabling them to feel entitledToo bad those outside /warkop/ won't get the memo, she got the most award votes on her category on CF19 despite her lack of stream in 2024! Makes you question how she got nominated in the first place?
Chiya Singshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_tL7YpUPP4
Yuzu Drawshttps://youtu.be/BWF0mo6yPXQ
Rannia Singshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tkdClJWwbk
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>>89907850kek married and have a kid i guess thats make sense
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Globally, more than 1 billion people use Google Maps.But 95% of people do not know about its hidden features.16 amazing, little-known tips
Kokoro MLhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1afoO6d5Og
PUSH!
https://x.com/AKAVirtualOnAir/status/1859539229254304225Gud news>MiU-Cupang ties are getting okayish despite what anons said on last bread, see? They're collabing together nowBad news>Cae......
>>89925319> didn't invite Holo&NijiTHE AUDACITY REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>89925319AAAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Nima HSRhttps://youtu.be/U9QIeCBo3XA
>>89925319Chuubas that not invited:>AKA Virtual>Reinanda Rea>Caerula Aki>Koh Acuk>Lala Alberich>Mai>Amaya Miyu>Frederett>MAHA5>Andi Adinata>NANARIKA>Nia Redalion>Kevin Vangardo>Hera Garalea>Daisy Ignacia Y>Re:Memories>Chloe Pawapua>Leo Axenos>Pinku RimuCMIIW, because I'm too M U A L A S to recheck.
>>89926067 (me)I forgot one more: Viyushi Winko. She's a part of another batch, added on May 2024.https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/AKA_Virtual#Fourth_AdoptionAlso, Mai is an original member.AKA Virtual EN collabing with AKA Virtual ID when? It's /warkop/ and /corpo/ unity.
Alicia Neon Runnershttps://youtu.be/LkXzOg2Q1TI
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCmEhpwSbsa/https://www.instagram.com/motionimefestBesides fleshtubers and e-celebs, they also invited idol groups, girl bands, chuubas, cosplayers, indie/solo artists, and bands. Unitychad (?)Also, https://www.instagram.com/p/DBTTIpQSDOE/ Kaela?
>>89927232No you retard
>>89927232One question: how does Bang Windah do it? All of these seem to be too good to be true. Or so I think.
>>89926210>Mai is an original memberSince you mentioned it, I haven't heard of any other original members besides Mai, are they still active or have moved on somewhere?>AKA Virtual EN collabing with AKA Virtual ID when?Since they just debuted not long ago, I guess they still apply the collab ban rule like in some corpo
Kujira Rebahanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92hKropLc_4
Laras-Bang Al We Were Here Foreverhttps://youtu.be/Nks3Q7dSDLc?si=E3HFYFzIPioZcRnt
Konatsu Ayodancehttps://youtu.be/tltzZVHhnvo
Aliza Midnight Monitorhttps://youtu.be/zsTFjlqn-xI
Senon Mediasharehttps://youtu.be/HHZyEjw9zkM?si=7ErzQ6DVFv6ekEZz
>>89929034Bang Al is unstoppable.
>>89927576money
Marin Mediasharehttps://youtu.be/LYjJxNdSYsw?si=zIXsfwfrn7pbSJTT
